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Worldwide Dogman Encounters & the Hexham Heads · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Speaker 2: We're going to be talking about dog Man worldwide and
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  Speaker 2: some of the worldwide reports and encounters all across the globe.
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  Speaker 2: And yes, I said globe. I know we had doctor
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  Speaker 2: John Stamon last week and he mentioned that he's going
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  Speaker 2: the Globe, but I am willing to change my mind
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  Speaker 2: if I'm shown further evidence. So, but yes, we're going
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  Speaker 2: to be talking about dog Man encounters from all over
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  Speaker 2: the world. And by the way, we do have dog
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  Speaker 2: Man encounters himself coming on next week, not this Wednesday,
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  Speaker 2: but a week from Wednesday. We have big Kunduff joining
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  Speaker 2: us on the show, and I am going to be
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  Speaker 2: referencing at least one of his encounters from his channel
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  Speaker 2: today on our show out of Germany. It is one
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  Speaker 2: of my favorite encounters that I've heard on his channel,
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  Speaker 2: and he has thousands of people who have come on
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  Speaker 2: his channel and on dog Man Radio to discuss their encounters.
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  Speaker 2: So the Lady in the Glass House, that's the one
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  Speaker 2: we're going to talk about today. If you guys will
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  Speaker 2: remember that about a lady out of Germany who literally
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  Speaker 2: lived in a glasshouse and was stalked by a were wolf. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: on a time crunch like I normally am because I've
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  Speaker 2: Because on this episode, we're going to be talking about
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  Speaker 2: recent and past encounters with dog men around the world,
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  Speaker 2: from American dog man reports to horrifying, terrifying were wolf
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  Speaker 2: and dog man encounters in Germany, France, the Middle East
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  Speaker 2: and beyond. We're going to be looking for patterns and connections,
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  Speaker 2: and we're even going to be talking about the let's see,
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  Speaker 2: what are they called the hexham Heads you guys, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to dive into these hexham heads out of the UK.
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  Speaker 2: I believe they are cursed objects that are attached to
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  Speaker 2: a were wolf or a were wolf is attached to
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  Speaker 2: the heads. And of course Dennis is also an expert
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  Speaker 2: on curse objects, and so we're going to bring Dennis up.
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  Speaker 2: He has well over forty forty decades, maybe four hundred
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  Speaker 2: years old. He might be Dennis, he might be he
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  Speaker 2: might be a vampire.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I've never seen Dennis in a vampire or awarewolf in
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  Speaker 2: the same room before. But yes, four decades, not forty
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  Speaker 2: of experience in the paranormal, the occult, cryptids, UFOs, you
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  Speaker 2: name it, Dennis has covered it. He also is an
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  Speaker 2: the show, our good friend, doctor Dennis Carrol.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, people are wondering why I dressed only in
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  Speaker 1: black and come out at night, but absolutely I just
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  Speaker 1: want to say that say to John that you are
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  Speaker 1: definitely an oppress. John. Absolutely. And also I want to
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  Speaker 1: mention that that that the war Woman Goods is the
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  Speaker 1: perfect place to shop for my Christmas gift. Okay, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, anyway, absolutely, this is one of my favorite subjects.
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  Speaker 1: You know that I'm like you, I am a dog
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  Speaker 1: man junkie. Okay, that's what we are. And this phenomenon
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  Speaker 1: is worldwide. A lot of people, don't, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people miss that that's always you know, this
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  Speaker 1: is this country, It's in the LBL and all these
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  Speaker 1: other places. You know, this is something that is gone
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  Speaker 1: and it goes back. Here's the interesting thing. It goes
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  Speaker 1: back deep into history and folklore and myth. So this
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  Speaker 1: is an interesting subject no matter which way you look
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  Speaker 1: at it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it not only goes back in folklore and myth,
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  Speaker 2: but it goes back on maps. Dog Headed men and
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  Speaker 2: women have been depicted on maps since at least the
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  Speaker 2: fifteen hundreds that we know of. I mean, this is
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  Speaker 2: the Perry Rees map from fifteen thirteen I believe was
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  Speaker 2: the year that this was created. And it does depict
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  Speaker 2: areas where there are dog headed men. Also Blimmy's you know,
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  Speaker 2: one of my favorites. And dragons and I think even
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  Speaker 2: bigfoots okay, like Harry, humanoids are on this map. There's
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  Speaker 2: all sorts of strange things on this map that aren't
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  Speaker 2: supposed to exist, Dennis.
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  Speaker 1: So it goes backy far. You mentioned earlier about the
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  Speaker 1: flat aer theory and the globe there. I'm a globe
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  Speaker 1: person too, okay, because I don't want to fall off
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  Speaker 1: the edge you'll get. But the main thing about this
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  Speaker 1: is that maps, once upon a time they had that legend.
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  Speaker 1: I love that legend, you know that stops right here
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  Speaker 1: and beyond here there be dragons or there'll be you know,
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  Speaker 1: cryptis and all that. So it kind of left it
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  Speaker 1: open a lot of times. But yeah, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: these things were detailed, especially around the Greek islands and
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  Speaker 1: stuff too about dog headed people or dog headed men
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  Speaker 1: as the case of being well, we were talking about
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  Speaker 1: the whole society of these people and not just sightings
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  Speaker 1: of them. There were like tribes and villages of these
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  Speaker 1: people that they talked about them living in the mountains
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  Speaker 1: and places like that, especially in India and places like
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  Speaker 1: that as well. So it's not just Greece. It's not
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  Speaker 1: ancient Rome, but it is very worldwide. It is.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what, I got the idea for this
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  Speaker 2: show just yesterday because I was I was actually wrapping
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  Speaker 2: Christmas gifts, finally got some time to wrap a couple
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  Speaker 2: of gifts, and I was, I had my phone on
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  Speaker 2: with my YouTube plane, and I was kind of thumbing
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  Speaker 2: through some videos and stuff, and uh, and one that
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  Speaker 2: just kept coming up was this video. And I had
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  Speaker 2: no idea I was actually mentioned and in this video
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  Speaker 2: until Urso, who's here. I don't know Urso's in the
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  Speaker 2: chat today, but Urso had sent a put a left
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  Speaker 2: to comment under one of our videos, I think from
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  Speaker 2: this weekend, saying that, hey, you're I heard you mentioned
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  Speaker 2: in this video here. It's called the dog Men of
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  Speaker 2: suit in in Iraq, militaristic encounters with Middle Eastern were
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  Speaker 2: wolves and so yeah, yeah, go ahead, Dennis.
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  Speaker 1: They're definitely connected to the Gin, which are provided in
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  Speaker 1: that part of the world. And the Gin, of course,
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  Speaker 1: being the Arabian version of the demonic supposed it can
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  Speaker 1: take on many different forms and shapes, and it would
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  Speaker 1: not surprise me if they ran into something like this. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they had they had a problem with giants
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  Speaker 1: supposedly to the Candahar Giant that we know, the very
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  Speaker 1: famous case of that. And here's the thing about it.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of this stuff is connected to the cave
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  Speaker 1: systems and those areas because that is where the abode
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  Speaker 1: of the gin is supposed to be. Oh, the gen
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  Speaker 1: can be anywhere. They can you know, they can hone
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  Speaker 1: people's houses, they can possess people and so on and
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  Speaker 1: so on. But they are really connected to cave systems.
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  Speaker 2: They are well, you know, out in the Middle East.
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  Speaker 2: I had been I had been given a remote viewing
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  Speaker 2: target a while back of the giant of Kandahar. And
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  Speaker 2: so we do know, and I believe that there are entrances,
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  Speaker 2: cave entrances potentially to Inner Earth, I think, and I guess,
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  Speaker 2: I guess most caves will be going into Inner Earth technically, right.
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  Speaker 2: But giants, dog headed men, you know. And I've also
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  Speaker 2: had Jody Cook has been on the show. It has
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  Speaker 2: been a long time since I had Jody on. He's
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  Speaker 2: the head of the North American dog Man Project. We
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  Speaker 2: need to get him back on soon. But he he
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  Speaker 2: came on the channel, and I believe he talked about
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  Speaker 2: reports of dog men being seen in the Middle East,
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  Speaker 2: almost like warriors or soldiers in the Middle East. If
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  Speaker 2: if I recall correctly, it seems like one of them
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  Speaker 2: might have had they carried swords. Okay, so there it
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  Speaker 2: is probably pretty ancient. Okay, they probably go back to
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  Speaker 2: ancient times, especially if we've got a map like this
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  Speaker 2: peri Res map showing dog headed men, the Saint of
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  Speaker 2: Sepphally civilizations of dog headed people, and it does go back.
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  Speaker 2: I mean there are even stories of King Arthur fighting
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  Speaker 2: the whole army of dog headed men in Edinburgh, so common.
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  Speaker 1: That is a connection to the Fay. You know that
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  Speaker 1: people talk about the fairies or I like to call
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  Speaker 1: them the fay, but that's the original name. But the
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  Speaker 1: Fay are very much connected to this, you know. And
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  Speaker 1: I think before the show I was telling you about
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  Speaker 1: the Celtic were wolf. The Celtic werewolf looks very much
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  Speaker 1: like the dog man that we talk about. It has
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  Speaker 1: the body of a of a man, but he has
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  Speaker 1: the head of a wool or a dog. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you wouldn't You might not pay a whole lot of
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  Speaker 1: attention to what you're looking at. But it is considered
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  Speaker 1: to be a guardian spirit. And when we get into
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  Speaker 1: the Hexham Heads. I believe that's another connection with some
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  Speaker 1: of this stuff. But you got to look at it
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  Speaker 1: as being sometimes called up I think, conjured up to
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  Speaker 1: probably do certain things. You know, we've talked about this
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  Speaker 1: before on other shows, the conjuring part of dog man.
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  Speaker 1: I think there is a deafment. To me, having read
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  Speaker 1: all the many reports, eye witness accounts and all this
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  Speaker 1: other stuff, it seems to be the weighing in the balance.
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  Speaker 1: There is a very very dark factor to dog men.
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  Speaker 1: There is.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I was actually going to I'm not
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  Speaker 2: totally clumping dog men and where wolves together because I
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  Speaker 2: know that some people have a you know, make the
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  Speaker 2: very big distinction between the two. Okay, like there's a
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  Speaker 2: big distinction between the two. But for the sake of
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  Speaker 2: the show today, we're going to talk about both. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: even though I said it's dog man worldwide, some people
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  Speaker 2: think they're the same thing. Some people don't. Okay, So
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna go over werewolf and dog man reports and
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  Speaker 2: sightings today. I mean, basically, if I were to see
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  Speaker 2: something that look like a bipedal dog man, whether it
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  Speaker 2: be a werewolf or a dog man kind, they gotta
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  Speaker 2: kind of look the same, I would think.
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  Speaker 1: And if you say something like that just because you're
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  Speaker 1: not going to ask for ID, you know, are you
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  Speaker 1: aware of wolf or are you a dog man? You know,
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  Speaker 1: show me your card? Uh you're not, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: got a light for something like that, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think they're interchangeable. I think a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: are seeing one or the other, but they may be
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  Speaker 1: misidentified sometimes. But when you go to places like well,
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  Speaker 1: just like for instance, the very famous cases of these
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  Speaker 1: things being seen in Tonic Chase in Great Britain, around
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  Speaker 1: the Moors and some of these other places. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there are tons of reports and you would not think
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  Speaker 1: this on an island as small as Great Britain, so
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  Speaker 1: many reports of dog man being seen or werewolves whatever
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  Speaker 1: as interchangeable like we did. There's something definitely going on here,
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  Speaker 1: without a doubt.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's shocking how many werewolf and dog man sightings
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  Speaker 2: there are out of the UK. And I've been looking
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  Speaker 2: into that a bit myself, So this is an interesting
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  Speaker 2: comment here. I wanted to bring this up. Chicky Blue
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  Speaker 2: says recent dog man sighting, the man unalived dog man.
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  Speaker 2: The military told them they unlive their property. Yeah, I've
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  Speaker 2: actually been told to be very careful about, first of all,
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  Speaker 2: disclosing if you know, when and if my team ever
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  Speaker 2: goes out and we do like a dog man investigation
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  Speaker 2: and things like that, because it is very sensitive. It's
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  Speaker 2: very sensitive, and some of them are government property.
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  Speaker 1: We don't ever want certain entities to know what our
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  Speaker 1: plans are. That's definitely a big no, no, absolutely, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: there are there are interested parties. As we'll say, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna get too deep into that, but there are
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  Speaker 1: there are interested parties out there that would definitely like
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  Speaker 1: to know what we're doing and what we're up to.
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  Speaker 1: And I think if something like this was definitely our
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  Speaker 1: lives by the military, it's going straight to uh, it's
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  Speaker 1: going straight to the labs or whatever it is that
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  Speaker 1: they they have set up for this stuff. You're not
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  Speaker 1: going to find out that much about it. You may
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  Speaker 1: hear a little bit about it. But here's the thing
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  Speaker 1: about this thing. They are definitely telling their soldiers and
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  Speaker 1: people like that, you know, you do not talk about
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  Speaker 1: these things. You don't mention these things. There are and
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  Speaker 1: we've talked about before being pressured by their their you know, uh,
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  Speaker 1: their command not to say or do or release any
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  Speaker 1: kind of information about this. And it's and just to
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  Speaker 1: give you a quick example, you can talk to forest
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  Speaker 1: rangers and park officials. They do not want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about this. Very seldom you will find one that will
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  Speaker 1: talk about because they're under pressure not to talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: And this is very much Jessica, like the UFO flaps
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: of years ago when a lot of the pilot and
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: it still goes along to this day, a lot of
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: the airline pilots saw UFOs and they hushed them up.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: You don't talk about that if you want to keep
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: your job, you know, And that's the way it goes
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: to our military. If you want to, you know, stay
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: in the right right lane that you need to be in.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: You don't talk about these things. It's a hush hush saying.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: But once in a while, you get little leaks in
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: the water draws. You might say, you get a little
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: you get a little lea'son on some of this stuff.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: But that's just the way it works. That's what that's
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: what we're you know.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, well, lucky for us in the United States, we
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: have you know, the North American dog Man Project. Our
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: good friend Kenny a KA Star Fox he has UH
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: he's their historian and he does updates on their website
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: and UH. And they do have maps. They have a
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: great system of, you know, taking reports of dog man
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: sightings werewolf signings. I think it's mostly I think they
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: kind of focus on dog man of course, but UH
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: to put them on their their maps so you can
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: you can get a good idea of where the sightings are.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: UH.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: And also they have regional directors of all the regions
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: all over the United States. So there's a pretty good
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: accounting of some of the dog man sightings. Of course
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: it's not all of them, but it's a good it's
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: a good portion of them, I believe. So we have that,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: and I was really surprised Dennis to come across a
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: similar map out of France, which is actually pretty updated too.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: This is from twenty twenty three. I did find a
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: map of dog man sightings. Okay, I believe it's we're
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: wolf and dog man sightings. Now, those are not the
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: names of the dog men in there. On each of
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: those regions that have a name there, that's the first
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: name of the people who reported the sighting. And so
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: that's I mean, that's a good chunk of France right there,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: which isn't really shocking to me.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: We mentioned that at at the beginning that there are
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of forests in France. Definitely they still remain.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: But here's another interesting correlation. I wonder how many of
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: those areas are actual battlefields?
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Oh good, good question. Well how much of that area
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: is owned by their government as well? I mean, did
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: they have national parks like we have here in the
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: United States. I think that's a valid question.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they have secure areas, definitely, without a doubt.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: But then you know, I have to think I have
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: to wonder about the battlefields and thing too, because you know,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: very much like Old Green Eyes we usual we've talked
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: about a lot. There are connections to battlefields with these things,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: just like they are to cemeteries. And I would like
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: to know how many cemeteries are in some of those
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: areas as well, because that is another distinct connetion with
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: doll Man.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: It is actually when we were at that forest in
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Alabama when we went on a dog man hunt with
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Cryptid Warfare operators, we hiked in and we passed two
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: separate cemeteries. Once you hiked off the trail a little
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: ways there were two cemeteries, very old. One of them
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: had Revolutionary War soldiers buried in it. Okay, I'm sure
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: there were older ones in that out there that were
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: unmarked and stuff too. I mean, this was really old
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: land out there.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Actually traditionally filled it a werewolf report. It was like
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: down from the cemetery. This keeps stopping up time and
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: time again. What is this cemetery connection thing going on?
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know what William says. William Nighthawk says
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: that it's because the lands are cursed and a medicine
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: man at some point, or a medicine woman or shawman
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: had at some point cursed or blessed that land, depending
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: upon how you look at it. To conjure up.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: That would go with a lot of native lands. But
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: all of these are not native lands. I mean, not
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: all of them are are areas like that. I would
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: think there would be more prevalent around the old burial site, definitely,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: because they looked upon that as sacred. They would put
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: curses and guardians upon that type of land without a doubt.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: But not all of it is that. I mean, there's
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: something else, something else going on with a cemetery connection.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, for sure, he says, can we talk about
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: set of werewolves, talk about the wolf people or the
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: wolf humanoids? Oh interesting, Well maybe they're kind of sound
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: very similar. Actually, well he so, like in France, there's
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: there's a legend and I was given that as a
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: remote viewing target at least a year or two ago,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: and it was a legend.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Actually they called it the Beast of Guevaden. Yeah, very
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: interesting case. That is one of the most famous were
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: wolf legends in the world, and to this day there's
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: still a lot of conjecture on that. My good friend
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Ken Gerhard did a documentary on this. I mean they
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: actually sent him over there to document a lot of this.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: You went to the actual place, well, a lot of
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: these attacks took place, and where and where the beast
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: was supposedly killed by a less bullet that brought it
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: down supposedly, but there's a lot of confecture This thing
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: was not even a wolf. It may have been somebody's
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: pet hyena that was looting.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: I think it was a hyena, and we talk about
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: hyena dogmen. That seems to be very prevalent right now
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: with a lot of the sightings. I know people personally
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: who when they had a dog man encounter. It was
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: a hyena type dog man, which is not even a
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: dog by the way, Okay, hyenas aren't, but that's what
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: it looked like.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Another great experiment, Jessica, would be the hyena because it
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: has of course it is they can't. It is connected
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: to the canine family, and that would be a perfect
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: thing for research as well, especially in places like Africa
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: and all that words more of prevalent. But you know,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: there are honeas all over the world in zoos, and
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: supposedly there have been sightings of these things. And once
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: upon a time, many many eons ago, on the North
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: America and continent, we had hyenas. That's the interesting thing.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know I had mister E from Cryptis
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: the Quorn came on the show last year and talked
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: about the Appalachian hyenas. Okay, because you know, I do
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: most of my research in the Appalachian Mountains. Even the
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: dog man hunt that we went on was in the
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Appalachians as well. Okay, so it was in that area,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: the very lower, the very bottom tip of the Appalachian
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Mountains is where we were for that, and a lot
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: of bigfoot sightings there, and I think that we were
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: surrounded by bigfoots that when we were there, and it
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: probably probably wasn't dog men when we got there, but
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I think initially it could have been dogmenn.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: A lot of strange stuff in the appellations, absolutely, And
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: another thing that we can think about too with these
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: things is that there is a very prevalent legend in
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: the appellations of this being connected to black magic and
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: sorcery and conjuring up these types of animals. Here's something
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: else we can consider. We have a jaguar. The jaguars
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: native to the North American continent. A lot of people
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: don't know this, but the jaguars were almost killed out
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: but they are coming back now. They are found in
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: lower parts of Alabama, parts of Texas down in that area,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: and even there may be some in the Florida and
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Panhannle area. So they are making a comeback. So out
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: there in the woods with these Jessica, you may have
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: some jaguars.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: We probably do. And yeah, the jaguardi, I think it's
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: how you pronounce it. They have this other thing like
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: a jaguar that's seen in Texas a lot now and
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: out in the southwest, So it's just something else to
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: look out for. And I think that a lot of
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: people who have been attacked by what some people think
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: could have been a dog man, I think a lot
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: of times that's actually big camps that are attacking them
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: because they do jump down from the trees, and you
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: never know what hits you most of the time because
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: they'll get you from behind and they'll go for your neck.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: So so while you're hiking through the woods, you've got
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: to keep your eyes in the trees too. You never
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: know what might be waiting up there and lurking to
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: jump on you. I saw the film the other day
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: word Jo War actually went on somebody's patio and took
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: off the family dog for a little for dinner. These
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: things are very deadly. We have to understand that, you know,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: nature doesn't play favorites, and it doesn't have morals. It's
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: not good or bad. It's just doing this thing to survive,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: and hopefully you don't get in the way when it
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: does that.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: You know, Oh, man, if you want to see some
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: some gnarly action when it comes to the force of nature,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: when it comes to some of the wild animals, there's
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: a I don't know if it's like a YouTube channel
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: or social media site. It's called Nature is Metal. Nature
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: is metal. It's wild. Yeah, I go if you want
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: some action packed I mean, it's not for the squeamish
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: or the fiend of heart, but nature is metal, and
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: it is metal.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: So Moondog has an interesting comment here. Saint Patrick not
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: only drove snakes from Ireland, but he also drove were
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: wolves from Ireland. Is that have you heard that, Dennis?
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a very provading legend in Ireland, definitely. And
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: the thing about it was the Church looked down upon
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: the Celtic ware wolves. Although the Celtic ware wolves were guardians,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: they were looked upon as being good and not bad,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: but the Church didn't take that look. They didn't take
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: that tactic with it. The Church said, oh, they're just evil,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: there's things of Satan or whatever. We'll get rid of
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: on with the snakes kind of a deal. So I
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: think that was supposedly what happened with that. But once
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: upon a time there was supposed tribes of warriors who
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: were were wolves in Ireland, so they were looked upon
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: as a good force by the Celtics.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I've also talked about the berserkers and
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: the potential Viking wear wolves over there as well.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: So I mean, I know, I'm just said from Rackings
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: had the were the the wolf berserks. They were worse
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: than the than the bear berserkers. Okay, these guys, and
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff was the enhancement of drugs
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: that would take the certain uh plants and all that
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: that they used. It would heighten their consciousness so that
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: these men became the animals of the skins that they wore.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: They lost their humanity with these drugs. These guys were
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: terrible on the battlefield. You did not want to run
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: into them because they would. They would even turn on
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: their own kind. They were like sharks in the water.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: They were just killing and indiscriminately killing. On the battlefield.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: They were a force to be reckoned with.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Wow, yes, I would not. That's the last thing I'd
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: want to encounter on a battlefield. I mean, it's bad
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: enough to be in a battle and half in a
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: battle for your life, but to come against a bunch
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: of werewolves. Man, I've seen underworld. I know how vicious
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: those things can be. Moon Dog Davis says St. Francis
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: helped a village in France that was being attracted or
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: attacked maybe by werewolves, by speaking to their leader after
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: one of their werewolves was mistaken as a wolf unliving
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: a child. Interesting.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Well, a lot of times there were bounties unfortunately put
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: on wolves. No wolves got a bad reb okay down
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: due time in history. There are very few actually documented
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: wolf attacks against human beings. Most of the time, the
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: wild wolf will avoid you. That's just the way they are.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: And you know, they have the families of wolves are
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: set up more like military units. I don't know if
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: you've ever studied wolf behavior that much, but it is fascinating.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: These will and then you know, the Native American peoples
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: of this country called the wolves a nation. They were
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: like a nation, like another tribe of people, because of
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: the family unit that they have. And I think this
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: was one reason why people in ancient times fear the wolves,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: because they were so darn well organized.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: They you know, well, you know, we actually sometimes we
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: will utilize the way the wolf's the wolf pack moves
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: when you're out in the woods and you're doing cryptid research,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: even when you're out in the field, or even it's
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: not even researching. It's out there doing whatever. If you've
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: got to big group with you and you're walking through
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: the woods, you know, we don't want to end up
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: statistics in a David Politis book. Okay. So it's important
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: that you put, you know, the stronger men or women
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: or warriors whoever. It is, the ones that are the
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: big protectors in the very back and the back and
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: in the front basically, and then you put the weaker
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: people like the children in the middle. And there's a
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: there's a hierarchy to it, okay, but it all there's
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: method in the madness. And that's what the wolves do.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Think about the Wolvers of Scotland. They are half men
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: half wolves. They had they had the dog, the dog
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: head or the wolfhead kind of the thing. And by
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: the way, there are this is a symbol that runs
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: through a lot of the old fans, families and clans
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: of Ireland and Scotland. You'll see wolfheads on a lot
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: of the heraldry and stuff like that. As a matter
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: of fact, there used to be a very famous cash company.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: It was called Wolfhead. Yes, so oh, a lot of
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: this stuff is still related. It is deep in our
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: hokey and it is deep in our history and folklore
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: and culture.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: It is speaking of which Edgar had put in a
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: comment about the to the twins boys that I guess
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: they were from Rome, right, did they? They were leaders
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: of Rome. I can't remember Romulus and Remus, okay. And
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I know I know Romulus and Remus from growing up
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: around Rome, Georgia, because a statue of the two boys
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: drinking from the teats of the of the she Wolf
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: is on the is on the courthouse steps in Rome, Georgia,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: and it was sent over from Rome, Italy, I believe.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: But that is on the the courthouse steps. My mom
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: used to tell us a story about it when we
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: were kids. Uh, every time we passed by.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I think there was once upon a time a connection
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: between Rome, Georgia and Rome, Italy, Rome, and I think
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: there was some kind of a cultural exchange or something
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: like that. But yeah, definitely there was. You know, if
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: you look back, and a lot of southern cities they
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: are named after famous place names in Europe and all that,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: and Rome. Of course, I've been to Rome, George. I've
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: seen that statue. It is fascinating that you've got that
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: part of mythology here where we're at. But uh yeah, uh,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: there's been a lot of stories of that down through time,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: of people actually being raised by wolves because, like I
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: said earlier, the wolves have a family, like they have
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: a family unit. They look out for each other. They
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: you know, there's one wolf that has a job as
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: stays at the end of the line because he's the
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: you know, he's the one that watches their flank, you know.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're smart. They're incredibly smart and untell and
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: the way they handled these things, and I could see
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: wolves actually raising someone like a child or something like that,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: because we have and I think you've seen this too, Jessica,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: we've seen dogs, well I'm talking about domesticated dogs. They'd
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: end up living in wolf packs.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Well, I mean I've seen videos of feral
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: children who were raised by wild dogs. They may not
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: have been wolves, but you know, wild dogs may be wolves,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: and they the children actually have taken on the characteristics
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: of all the behaviors of the dogs, I mean all
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: the behaviors. And you know, that's kind of a different
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: topic because that gets into the feral people, but I
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: mean it's related, right, and it's very interesting the psychology
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: behind all of.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: That and the most famous one of all, of course
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: is Tarzan of the Apes. Yeah, that eggar Rays Barrows
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: wrote about it. He actually got these ideas. Some eyes
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Victual supposed cases of people being raised by animals in
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: the Lyile and that they include japes and includes wolves
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: and dogs. Like you said, Uh, it's not that far fetched.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: That's something like that could happen. Absolutely, yes. Yeah.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Somebody Swinny in the Chad had a good question. I
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: can't find it, but it was asking I think it
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: was kind of talking about what what happens if a
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: werewolf bites you? And uh, and I think that went
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: on to talk about being allergic to dogs or something.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: But that's that's actually a pretty interesting question though. What
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: happens if a were wolf were to bite you? Dennis,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Do you've become a were wolf at that point? I mean,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: I would think you wouldn't survive. If a were wolf
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: bites you once, it's probably going to bite you more times.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: That's kind of a double edged sword answer to that. Okay. Uh.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: The one thing part of it is if a regular
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: were a wolf who has been brought about by dark
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: magic and all that bites you, you're probably not going
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: to become aware per se because of that, most of
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: the time they're going to eat you. You're not going
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: to survive anyway. They're going to eat you and do
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: whatever it is they do to you. But if you're
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: bitten by a cursed werewolf who is living on the curse,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: it's supposedly at spitte will pass that curse on to you.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Curse. Oh man, that's something that comes up a lot.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Uh, And.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: I guess this is this is a a good time
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: as any to start talking about these cursed heads, Dennis,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: that we were going to talk about today. I believe
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: they're called the hexham Heads, and they really reminded me
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: of a couple of other things that we've talked about
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: here on the Channel before when it comes to curse
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: objects and even potentially being related to cryptids, potentially at
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: least paranormal let's just say paranormal. The hexam heads are
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: actually connected to a were wolf, which is I'm I
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: mean to me, that's kind of it's kind of special. Okay,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's a good thing, but I'm saying
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: it's unique. Maybe unique is the word, because when we
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: hear about these curse objects like the Catskill Chrone. Barry
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Littleton gave me this as a remote viewing target not
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: too long ago. And this was found in the Catskill
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Mountains in a cave. Some gentlemen took it home, put
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: it in their backpack, and it started moving by itself.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Their house became cursed. Okay, there was all sorts of
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: paranormal activity. It was very dark. Dark things started happening.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: So these guys gave it to a museum, and then
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: the people at the museum ended up making a documentary
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: about it because it was so cursed and the paranormal
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: activity got so bad, they ended up taking it back
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: to the cave, back where it originated from.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: So we have that.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: We also had the Bell Witch as well. That was
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: one of my remote viewing targets a long time ago.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I've even had John Bell's fifth great grandson on our show, okay,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: and so he came on and we talked a little
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: bit about that. Dennis, you were on the show with us,
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: actually when he was on, it seems Derek. Okay, So
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Derek was on you and I and Derek did a
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: show together and we talked about the Land between the
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Lakes because he lives at the land between the lakes today.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: But you know when people go to the bell Witch Cave,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: if they leave there and have one little pebble in
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: their shoe or take a rock or any kind of
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: item from that cave, they've become cursed and their life
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: goes down the tubes.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: And this cursed objects, Jessica, come with an attachment of
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: a guardian spirit that is attached to that. Matter of fact,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I had a cash years ago where I was given
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: a cursed object to get rid of these people. It
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: was an actually carved statue, by the way, and I
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: will not bring it in my house. I have it outside,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: sitting outside on the outside where he needs to stay.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I will not bring it inside. Certain of these certain
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: things like this are not good the food around with
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: because they have a very evil aura around them. They
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: have a very evil content to them, just like that
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: with the chron and the catskill thing, which is a
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: very interesting case. And I think that's why. And by
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: the way, the nails are driven in that statue because
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: it's trying to hold something in that statue, very much
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: like a debiic box in that respect. Yeah, and that's
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: why you've got that stuff going on. I talked to
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Barry about that that was before you had the show
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: on it. That that was probably what was involved in
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: that thing. I would never have brought that thing back
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: it was still there. We would have remained in that
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: gaze definitely, and that should be a lesson for a
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: lot of people. You do not mess with certain items
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: like that. And that it brings us to the hexham Heads,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: and that is a very strange and interesting case because
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I think without a doubt they definitely had a guardian
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: spirit like attached to them.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, I would think so too. And I became interested
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: in the hexham Heads when I saw a video clip
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: from a nineteen seventy one actually nineteen seventy six BBC
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: report out of the UK. There was a okay, and
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: I just saw a clip of this because the report
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: had been it was it aired one time and it
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: got taken down and it was put into the archives
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: where nobody could find it. And I think in the
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: clip they said, well, because of AI, they were able
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: to regenerate it because it had I guess it had
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: kind of descended graded or something.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Back in the nineteen seventies they didn't have all the
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: digital stuff we have today, so it says in nineteen
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: seventy six, it was a current BBC Current Affairs report,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: a nationwide report on a werewolf that was associated with
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: a set of stone heads found by children by Hedron's
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Wall on the border between Scotland and England. It was
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: once once haunted everyone who touched them or saw them.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: And these were a series of little heads, like carved
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: heads that some little boys found, very much like the
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: John Bell witch story where the little boys found that
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: skull and the tooth fell out into their porch and
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: then they all the house became cursed. Now, these are
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: drawings of these little heads and they weren't any bigger
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: than the palm of your hand. Okay, that's what it
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: looked like right there, very strange little carvings. There got
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: some more pictures here. That's there they are. Those are
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: the originals right there. You can see how small these
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: things are. And there's even newspaper articles myth of the
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: evil heads. Okay, because when this came out, when that
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: news article came out, people got very upset and they
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: got scared because, oh my god, there's a werewolf attached
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: to these things. And I'm going to tell you how
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: they know there's a werewolf attached to them, they say, Jesse.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: If you look at those things, they look very Celtic looking, okay,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: And the Celts had a lot of a lot of
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: settlements in those areas definitely years ago, and of course
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: the Celts were up into the Scottish Highlands especially, that
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: looks very Celtic looking, and it would not surprise any
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: one bit that it does not have some type of
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Celtic Guardian spirit with it. Then it would definitely take
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: the form of a wolf. Like I mentioned earlier about
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: the detective part of the guardian Celtic werewolves, that would
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: not surprise me a bit. And when I first read
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: about this story many years ago, and of course they
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: have the heads have mysteriously vanished now. But the interesting
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: thing about this is that the description of the heads,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: if you look at those drawings all that they look
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: kind of wolfish. They look kind of they're not they're
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: not human looking if you look at it that way,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: you know, you.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean, or even eat geese too, they
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: look they do look there's something different about them. They
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: do look creepy, very creepy.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Hm, for sure. And I think without that something like
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: that would definitely come with some type of a spiritual
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: attachment to it, especially that that ancient. It looks very
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: old now, whether they were made like you know, in
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: the fifteenth or fourteenth century or whatever. It may not
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: be thousands of years old, but they are very old,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna you know, There's been a lot
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: of speculation that maybe these were children's toys or something
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: that the child was given to play with or made
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: for a child. That's the possibility, but I don't know.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Why would you make something like that for a child,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Well, here's the story that goes behind it.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy one, the Robson family, who lived in
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Hexham in the northern part of England, were driven away
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: from their house due to some strange occurrences. They began
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: only after they discovered these two stone heads in their garden.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: The heads were small, about two inches in size. One
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: of the heads was called the Boy due to the
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: masculine shape of the skull, and the other one was
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: the Girl due to the presence of female features and
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: the long hair. According to the family, the heads would
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: move around by themselves, and that wasn't all the haunting
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: of the hexham heads had just begun.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Apps.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: The most horrifying occurrences in the early days were witnessed
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: by the family children. The front door to the family
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: home opened by itself as they passed, and outside was
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: a terrifying half sheep half human creature, and a neighbor
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: also saw the creature outside the front door, but by
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: the time the family responded to the children's screams, it disappeared.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: So the two young boys of the family were the
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: ones who had discovered the stones, and while they were
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: digging in their garden they reached into the soil. They
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: found them, and they brought him into the house, which
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: they probably shouldn't have done, but they didn't know any better,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: and they said that they knew that there was some
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: sort of as soon as they saw that sheep man. Okay,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: it was almost like a goat man. I guess they
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: called it a sheep, maybe like a sheep squatch. They
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: knew they were probably cursed, and so they began being
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: terrorized by it. And it says the heads were once
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: seen moving by unseen hands, and the bottles around the
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: house were thrown across the rooms.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, so, but they weren't items activity. Cursed items do
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: things like that, they give you bad dreams. They supposedly
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: move around, they call certain things that happen in the house,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: or just rub the house or wherever it is they're at. Uh.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: That's the interesting part about cursed items. They take on
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: a life of their own. They're almost like, you know,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: they are sentiment beings per se. It's very strange. I
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: have actually seen a lot of videos of supposing cursed
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: items moving around and display cases and doing some very
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: freaky looking stuff. Absolutely.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well it wasn't just their house that got haunted.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: The neighbor's house became haunted as well when they found these.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: When they dug up those heads, they said that the
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: little boy that lived next door was having his hair
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: pulld or the little girl the child was having their
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: head pulled, their hair pulled, and their house seemed like
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: it was being haunted. So they started reaching out to
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: journalists and newspapers. Specialists in neolithic art came to study
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: the Hexham heads, and the experts were facing difficulties in
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: dating these stones. They could not really date them. They
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: were examined thoroughly multiple times, but the results were always
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: different from the last report, so everybody it was just
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: kind of baffling. Nobody could really pinpoint how old these
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: things were, but they were generally thought to be linked
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: back to the Celtic traditions, just like you've been talking
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: about today, Dennis, Celtic background.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: And I think there's been a lot of speculation that
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: once these things were taken out of the ground, and
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: they were put in the ground for a reason, and
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: once they were removed, it disturbed the whole area that
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: including the two houses where they to blaze at saying
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: that they could have done. Of course they didn't think
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: about it, think about doing it. But the best thing,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: because down, is put them back where they found them,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: very much like the crawling of the catskills, you know,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: it needs to go back where it was and it
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: needs to stay there. And if they had returned those things,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: you know, back to the soul from which they were taken,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: they might have stopped a lot of this. But they
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: didn't consider that. Actually, and here's the bad thing now,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: since they've disappeared, that can never be returned until they
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: find them again, and that and they may never find them.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Here's an interesting thing about stuff like It's Jessica when
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: you find something that has a very evil patina around it,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: they has a very evil connection. It seems as if
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: they either disappear or they get destroyed somehow or another,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: something weird always happens with them. You know. I've actually
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: seen buildings and places in buildings. I know of one
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: right very close to where I'm at now that actually
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: burn to the ground. And it's almost as if they're
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: so evil that they can't remain there. And it seems
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: that way with objects as well. That's why a lot
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: of these so called cursed objects are put into containers.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: To keep them immobile and to keep them from moving
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: or going from place to place, you have to put
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: a lot of locks, I call them spiritual locks around
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: these things to keep them in place and keep them evolving.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: It's not a good idea to keep them, you know,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: where you live. I would advise you to if you
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: can return it back where it actually came from. But
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: it's a good idea. Don't have to bring them in
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: your house. It definitely not brings them into your life.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Well, these are cursed objects that seem to be attached
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: to some sort of creatures of the night. Okay, we've
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: heard about this sheep, the sheep humanoid. Also, we're about
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: to get into the story about the werewolf. And so
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: eventually there was a doctor Anne Ross who was she
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: was an expert on Celtic heads of antiquity and Celtic artifacts,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: and so she took in these heads. These are the
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: two little boys that found it. That's a creepy looking
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: head that one kid's holding. They're holding right there. But
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: she she took the artifacts into her home and started
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: researching them. She kind of exposed herself to the curse
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: at that point though, because she reported that she saw
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: a half wolf half man walking around upstairs in her home.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: She said she followed the creature downstairs to the kitchen,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: after which it disappeared. Now I they interview her in
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: that BBC film and she said something, Oh.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, if you were to ask me what kind
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: of spirrac these are, I would definitely tell you they
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: are elemental. That's the way these things are appearing, like
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: the half goat half man thing, well, a half man
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: half wolf thing. These are definitely very to me basic
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: elemental type spirits. They were called up by the Celts
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: or the Druids, who remain as guardians over these objects
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: or something or related to them in that Who knows
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: what these things may have been put on, some type
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: of an altar or what. You know. It's very interesting,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: but these were definitely elemental spirits.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, well, this woman's story reminds me one hundred percent.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: It reminds me of the There's a dog Man Encounters
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: episode one hundred and it was about a woman in
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Germany who lived in a glass house and she actually
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: had she had awarreabol for a dog man that came
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: and tapped on her window night. She said, the entire
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: house was made of windows. There's no escaping it. She
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: couldn't just throw blinds down and stuff. The whole house
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: is just glass. I don't know why anybody want to
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: live in a glasshouse, dentist, that's beyond me. But uh,
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: but she said that it was it was tapping on
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: the glass with this with its claw, and it crinkled
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: its nose up and uh she said the same thing
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: that this woman said.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: The doctor Anne Ross said it was very interesting because
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: she said, I felt like I could not stop myself
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: from going towards it. I was hypnotized, and I felt
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: like I needed to go towards it. So she went
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: towards it against her better judgments, like her gut was
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: telling her not to do it, but it's like her
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: body was just like it just went towards it. Just
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: like the lady with the in the glasshouse out of
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: Germany who was having this terrifying werewolf dog man encounter
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: at her home. She was trying to hold her dog.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Her dog was barking and trying to you know, it
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: was terrified of this thing. But they both said that
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: they felt like they were almost hypnotized into going towards it,
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: even though they knew that their life was their lives
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: were in danger.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: That's I think that dark connection I talked about with
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: dog men so many times before. There's something else going
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: on with that, definitely, And uh, when you think about
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: elemental spirits, the dog man would definitely fall into something
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: category like that because it is part of a dark
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: part of nature like uh. And it would be also
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: something that would be conjured up definitely. Uh. In many aspects,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: I think there's a there's a definitely a dark connection
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: with this in miny aspects. You know, as you have
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: these dog man reports all the way and by way
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: living in a glass house. You do not throw stones
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: at your neighbor, okay, but absolutely you know, uh, this
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: is this is worldwid Germany, France, the UK, Italy, Greece.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: It goes on and on and on. What are these
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: dog men things? I think there is a definite connection
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: to nature. Elemental nature spirits with a dog man to
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: a certain degree. And there may be people who tap
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: into that for dark purposes, you know, to do the
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: things they want to do. But I think that's what
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: people here are, Jessica are definitely experiencing something along those
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: same lines. It's different in a way than Bigfoot or Sasquatch.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: I had to call them sasquatch. There's a big difference
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: between that and doll man in that respect. To me,
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot seems to belong to nature in a way whereasin
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: the dog man does not. He has a sort of
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: an outside influence thing going on with And you see
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: that cropping up with all these different, these different you know,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: encounters that people are having. Just like this lady with
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: a house talking about this hypnotizing type mesmerizing power that
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: she encountered from this that sounds very much like a
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: dark spiritual thing, a dark spirit that she encountered, it.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Does well, we're dealing with a cursed object. She had
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of cursed objects in her home. She
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: had that encounter where she clearly saw what would look
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: like a were wolf or a dog man.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: She said it was.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: It had the upper body of a dog or a wolf,
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: and the lower extremities of a man, she said, of
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: a human. And she said that she chased after it.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: She went towards it against her better judgment. But it's
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: almost like she couldn't help herself, and it disappeared, thank goodness.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: And I don't know how soon after, maybe a few
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: days or a couple days later, her daughter, I think
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: her daughter was around fifteen years old, came home and
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: got the key out from under the flower pot and
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: put the key in the door. She was by herself,
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: and she had a similar encounter with the same exact
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: creature in the house, which was pretty terrifying. Okay, So
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: I believe they did eventually get rid of those objects
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: out of their house, and the all of that activity
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: did stop. It did, but it was connected to those
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: objects and a lot of the If you pull up
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: some articles about this, the wolf man or the dog
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: man the were wolf. Whatever this thing was, they describe
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: it as an apparition. It was an apparition. That would
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: mean be more like a ghost or something that's like
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: not tangible, okay, But to them they said that it
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: sounded looks it looks solid.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Actually, I had a case Jessica many years ago with
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: this lady contacted me. She owned a ranch in California
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: and they had lived on this ranch, she and her daughter.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: She was raising her daughter by herself. She was a
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: single mom, and they had a ranch and they had
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: horses on the ranch. The horses were being bothered by something,
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: and uh, they had lived on this ranch for like
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: ten years, and and uh, everything was going along fine.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: And then in the last few weeks before she called me,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: things began to go very strange and said that they
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: had paranormal activity in the house. The horses were being
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: bothered by something. There were scratches appearing on the horses
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And she said that her daughter
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: one night actually saw an apparition type thing in the
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: outside the window. It was looking in the house and
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: she said that it At first her daughter thought it
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: was a big dog that was kind of you know,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: looking through the window, you know, leaning on the window.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: I said, when she saw it, it was not a doll.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: It was more like a wolf. But it was a
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: monstrous looking thing it, you know, like a wolf that
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: had been through a meat blinder or something kind of thing.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: And said, this thing scared her daughter so badly. That's
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: when she contacted me about it. And I told her,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: I said, well, you know, have you done it, have
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: you brought any kind of objection in the house ailey,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: or have you done anything different from what your routines know?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: She hadn't done anything like that. And we come to
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: find out that on her property there was an old
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Native American burial ground of part of her property, and
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: what had happened there had been you know, California's prone
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: to floods a lot, and there had been a wash
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: and some of this Native American graveyard had washed down
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: into a canyon like or something. So I told her
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: that may be what was going on, and that she
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: would have some Native American shaman come in, you know,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: and do a ceremony on that and try to, you know,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: quell it. She did that, long story, long story shore
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: she did that and the activity completely stopped. So what
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: was going on was related to that burial ground. A
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: lot of times, you know, it can't It won't be
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: the object. It'll be what you may have done to
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: the land to disturb it in some way or another.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: That's the thing you have to think about. You consider
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: that as well. Man.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: I know that's why when a lot of people, when
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: they're doing excavations or renovations I think that's the word
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: renovations on old homes, they start getting a lot of
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: paranormal activity. Sometimes it's kind of dumb on it feeling
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: because it seems like it's stirring something up, and I
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: guess the spirits that are spirits that are dwelling in
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: that home don't like the changes apparently. So I've heard
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: about that a bunch of times, especially on ghost shows.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, if you disturb things, you've run the at
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: risk of disturbings spiritual stuff as well. When you do
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: the physical, that's what you run into. And I've had
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: so many people tell me that we knocked out of
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: all the house and we found some old stuff, or
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: we found something in the attic and we moved it
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: and we took it out. It's best to lead things along,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: whether we're at sometimes, you know, without disturbing them. I
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: gotta I can answer to your question. You know, Jessica Jones,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: the dollmen take on human form. I think you kind
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: of think about the werewolf in that respect. What do
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: you think. Yes, I think the werewolves can take on
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: human form, but I don't think I don't.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: I don't think dog men would, but I think werewolves would.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: By the by the classical sense of a dog man,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: I mean of a werewolf. Excuse me, in the classical
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: sense or definition of a werewolf, I think a werewolf would.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: I don't think a dog man would, but I have
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: not seen a sheep shift.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Dog man is dollar man four seven. He doesn't change
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: his nature in that respect. Whereas then, the werewolf may
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: be your neighbor next door. It could be somebody you know.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: It could be your Sunday school teacher. It could be
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: somebody that bass or groceries at Ingles, or someone wherever
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: you shop. That is the interesting thing about the werewolf.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: He could be anybody, could be me. It could be you,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: and you'd never know it until things gotten kind of
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: bad and you found out the wrong way.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want that when it's too late. Jeremy,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: this is a great, a great point. I've heard this
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: before too. I believe were wolves are descended from another
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: planet in serious but also some other cases are government
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: experiments and super soldiers, and I think that's a big
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: aspect of this. I think a lot of them could
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: be government experiments. I've heard that there are dog men
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: races on other planets and our friend Tony rod Riggs, let.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Me say this about the Okay, the were wolf is
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: grounded deep in dark, black magic and demanding power. But
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: these things come I think, without a doubt, from spiritual
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: dimensions that would be considered another world, would he not?
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: You know, different dimensions is what these things come from.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: Without a doubt, it would be otherworldly. That's why we
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: call things other worldly. It means they don't belong in
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: this world. They're from some other dimension, some other place
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: like that. That is definitely the ware wolf. But as
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: for the dog Man, like I say, some of this
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: may be contured too. Some of this may be coming
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: from other dimensions as well.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: With the dog Man, yes, it could be interdimensional and stuff.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: As you're saying that, I'm thinking of all these videos
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: that I've watched about because you know, I had to
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: dig into a little bit of that flatter stuff to
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: see what every's talking about and talking about. You know,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: we've discussed the ice wall, and some people think that
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: these are theories that are going around. I'm not saying
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: this is right or this is true, but there are
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: theories that you know, they're even outer space is not
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: actually out there in the sky. It's actually like aliens
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: or like living in our oceans, and and you know,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: and and there's beyond the ice wall is actually where
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: the other planets are and stuff. It's just wild. Man,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: We're we're living in crazy times right now. But uh,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: but yeah, and I think everything's interdimensional personally, I really do.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: But a few you know, you can you consider the
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: vast distances of space. Uh, it does not make sense
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: that you would get in a spaceship and know from
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: point A to point B. That's ridiculous. Will take you
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: untold millions of years to do these things that just
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: it doesn't worry. But if you can sept through dimensions
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: and doorways, and that's what we're talking about here and
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: these things, I think a lot of this stuff is
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: connected to these oral or doorways through time and space.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about traveling in that fashion.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: You can just walk through the door and be where
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: you want to be.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: That would be cool. That's why I like doing remote
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: viewing and stuff. I can go anywhere. I can go
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: anywhere if I want, so that's kind of cool. That's
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: just part of the remote viewing training and stuff too.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: So I guess I'm a multi dimensional being, and I
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: know I am, and I think that's a beautiful thing.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: We're all multi dimensional beings by the way we are
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: as a.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: Matter of time. I think just we're born to walk
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: between worlds. I think that's our spiritual nature to do that,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: and that's okay with me. I enjoy that myself in
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: that respect, to see things from different points of view.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: It's very interesting.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, I know. It's all about keeping an open mind
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: about all this stuff and a man and just exploring
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: it all. I love it. Good point Brown Dwarf A
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: serious dog Star. It is called the Dog Star.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Makes you wonder had mentioned I think it was him
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: that mentioned that he transported. He wrote this book. I
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: can't remember the name of it. A serious colony Cavalier.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: I think his name of his book y'all go check
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: that out. Tony rod Riggs, he was a part of
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: the Secret Space Program. He talked about I think he transported,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, a whole group of like a
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: unit of dog soldiers talking and soldiers or something on
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: his spaceship, he says, when he was in the Secret
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: Space program. So you'll have to go check that out, y'all.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: Find Tony online on YouTube and on Rumble. You can
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: find his stories there or get his book because he
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: talks about that.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: But they asked me the other day about UFOs. Where
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: do I think the UFOs are coming from? I don't
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: think they're coming from other planets in that respect, I
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: think a lot of these UFOs are coming from Inner Earth.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: I think that is where their true origin lies. But
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: there may be certain ships that transcend dimensions. Absolutely, you
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: would have UFOs that may do that as well. So
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: it's a multifaceted answer. It doesn't have just one answer.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: It has several different aspects out of it. But it
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: is very interesting that not only can you think about
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: ships doing this, but beings do it as well. And
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: having been involved a lot in demonology, I have seen
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: demons do some very interesting things that I think are
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: definitely interdimensional types stuff.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: Oh you said demons. That's something that I've been talking about.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: A good bit that keeps coming up is like cryptids
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: and the demon connection, the demonic connection to cryptids. And
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: I think someone in the chat earlier today had mentioned
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: dog men being demonic and.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't, I don't.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: I personally don't believe all dogmen are demonic. Okay, But
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: what do you say to that, Dennis, what do you think?
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: It's a possibility, And you got to look at it
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: from several different avenues. It could be what governmental experimentation
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: is done with it. It can be what some people
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: are doing conjuring and opening doorways for this thing to
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: come to. It can have many different aspects, and like
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: I said before, I just have to say this, okay,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: And I get a lot of flag from this. Okay,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: But people disagree with it vehmently. But I believe, without
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: a doubt, there is a dark aspect to dog man.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: He just not but just does not belong in nature.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: I can see big footballonging there, I can see others
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: something certain cryptids that may belong there, but I just
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: don't see him. This is a weird hybrid thing here.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: Where does it come from? Nature doesn't produce something like
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: this on a scale that well what we see. I
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: think there is another answer to this, absolutely, Yeah.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: I think there's there's probably something else to it, for sure.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I I'm still waiting for a dog Man
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: encounter personally. And uh, we're out there.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: I hate seeing hunting them. That sounds bad. Okay, we're
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: not hunting them, We're investigating them, I guess you could say.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: And uh, we're actually going to be my friend Drewski
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: and I from Cryptid Warfare Operators, we're going to be
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: on VIC kind of showing.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: Careful, be careful what you wish for you might guess
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: you wish. But here's the interesting thing, just the one
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: thing you need to consider. And I do too. I
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: would like to have an encounter with the aumantic. But
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: here's one thing we need to consider. There has been
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: so many cases on file where this encounter with dog
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: Man has changed people's lives for the worse and not
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: the better. They weren't happy a lot of times with
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: their encounters. And there's a reasons for this. Like I said,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: I think there's a dark connection only on with this
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: a dark spiritual connection, and it affects people differently. Now,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: it may not affect us that way if we ever
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: having an encounter, but it does affect a lot of
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: people very badly. It changes their lives, it changes their
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: whole perspective. It's almost as if it stains their very
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: existence or they're very spiritual aspects of their being.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: It does. But you know, when I'm all geared up
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: and I'm ready to go, I'm prepared. I've seen some
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: weird stuff, Dennis. Okay, I've seen some weird stuff, and
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: and I've been out there. I'm prepared for just about anything.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: So trust me. Listen, if I go out a dog
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: man attack, just know I went out doing what I
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: wanted to do. Okay, So hopefully that will never happen.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: It's the thing about that, Jessica. You and I are
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: prepared spiritually for stuff like that, and we're some people
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: are not. You know, that's the bad thing about it.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: Some people who have these experiences are not prepared spiritually
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: for that. That's why I say be careful to all
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: monster hunters. Be careful about hunting the monsters, because you
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: just may find them. Uh.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, I yah'm I find them a lot when we're
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: out there, but just not a dog man yet. But
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: we're we're working on it. We've got we've got some
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: more trips planned too. Okay, so we're gonna we're going
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: to come across one. But you're right, and that's where,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: you know, I know, when I first got into doing
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: the podcasting, you know, I didn't go public with my
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: research for a long time, you know, over a decade.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: I kept it quiet. And when I did go public,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: I've met the most amazing people with the most incredible encounters.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: And I see, I'm just looking in the chat right now,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: and I mean, we've got so many people. I mean,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: I've got Kelly in here too. Hey, Kelly, Primal cries
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: in here, and we've got Adolph, We've got Brown Dwarfs,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: a bigfoot investigator. A lot of people that are in
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: here have had dog men encounters or bigfoot encounters too,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: and so we're it's just really great getting to talk
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: to other people that have had these encounters, and it's
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: almost like a support group. Okay, that's what I started
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: learning that right away when I went public and I
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: started doing shows and stuff, I started seeing that this
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: is kind of a support group for all of us
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: who have had encounters, because even though I'm out there
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: looking for Bigfoot, I am encountering other stuff that is
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: pretty can be terrifying, and I need some support too.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: I got to make sure I'm not that crazy, okay, uh,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: knowing the other people are experiencing the same thing I am,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: and if I can bring some some and some peace
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: to people with my stories and things I've experienced, I'm
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: glad I'm here for it. Okay, I'm glad that we're
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: both here for it. Dennis, I know you've had some
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: encounters yourself, and that's I think that's the best we
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: can do these days. So I super appreciate it. I
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: appreciate everybody that's in here today too. We've got a
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: wonderful chat going today.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: And in being interested in folklore, there's that connection to
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: that as well, Jess, because part of our heritage, part
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: of our culture, you know, I know which way we
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: look at it. As a matter of fact, I was
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: talking not long ago to our good friend Ken Star
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: Fox about the Anubis cult. A lot of people don't realize,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: you know, how far back this goes into ancient Egypt
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: and stuff. But the Anubis cult was a very interesting
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: aspect of this. Of course, the Noubis is the god
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: headed jackal, jackal headed god of Egypt, the god of
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: the lord of the dead. He was the lord over
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: funerals and all that. But there was also a cult
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: that believed in It was sort of a rogue cult
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: of priests who followed in Nubis. They believed that they
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: could reanimate bodies and bring you know, sort of like zombies,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: sort of like your Egyptian zombies in that respect. They
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: believed that there were certain spells that could actually put
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: spirits back in a different body or whatever. Fascinating stuff.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: But yet, you know, the symbolism is still there, and
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: a Nubis still lives. He still lives all these thousands
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: of years later because of that symbolism. But he was
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: what the original dog man, Okay, that was That was
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: where he kind of began with that. But all of
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: if you look at all of their gods, here's the
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: interesting aspect of the Egyptian gods. They all represent some
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: animal or another. Most of the time, the crocodile headed
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: god or the cat headed god. The animals that they venerated.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: They gave these animals a spiritual connection that was sort
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: of like there's total animals, you know, there's spirit animals,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: there's spirit gods. And that was.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: Well, yes, I'm fascinated with the ancient Egyptian gods and
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: Egypt is where Anubis lived, I suppose, okay, and and
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: so Urso has an interesting question here regarding ancient Egyptian deities.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: What cryptids actually as cryptids? What cryptids were destroyed in
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: ancient Egypt where they crushed the bones and covered in
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: tar so they couldn't come back and entombed in the
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: APIs sarcophagus. I have no idea, do you know, Dennis.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: Well, I have heard of that there was supposedly some
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: infestations of their gods. They would come back of the
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: crocodisle heading together and all that, and that they would
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: they did not destroy the god. They would in tune
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: these things. They weren't They weren't really destroying them in
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: the fact, like it would obliterate them, but they believed
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: that you could in tune them and that would hold
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: them forever. So it's like send them to another world
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: and kind of put it that way, to the other
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: side or through the veil, whatever, whatever, tag you want
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: to give it, And that's the way they looked on things,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: and they would actually send some people like this in
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: that so it's sort of like another world, a world
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: between the living and the dead, and that was sort
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: of where you ended up. It was like a curse
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: in many aspects.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: WHOA, that's wild, very wild. I mean, one of my
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: favorite deities would be a segment and she and I
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: know she's she's like the vampire lady. Even though boops,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: that's my alarm going on, have to go get my kid,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: but he's already home. Okay, So she yeah, she was.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: She she drank blood or something. I can't remember. She
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: I guess they had to trick her. She was so
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: blood Dirthy sings.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: She represents Yessica, their blood rituals that they did, she represents.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: But we've talked about the red gravy a lot, you know,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: on the show. That keeps cropping up, specially especially with
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: vampires and other entities as well, just voundpires. But the
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: red gravy was prevailing throughout the history of the world.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: They had to have it for different rituals, for doing
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: different still going on, it's still ongoing. I yes, Irons
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: were big on that. Oh yeah, different cultures really. I mean,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: what what if you open the new Temple, then you
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: like sacrifice about twenty or thirty thousand people by cutting
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: their hearts out?
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you know, so you're you're talking about
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: the adrenalized blood? Is that what you're referring to? The greed?
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: Okay about the blood? The blood is the life that
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: you know that comes from the Bible, and that is
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: definitely a true statement. You know, you don't live without
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: your blood, and there's so much connected to your body.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: Is not your body without his blood. That's the life
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: of what you are. That's the essence of your life.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: And that's the way they look at it. In certain
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: aspects of that blood reflect what you are. And if
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: you were young and vibrant, that was the perfect kind
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: of blood that they wanted. Especially if that blood was
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: adrenalized with fear or a deep emotion of some sort,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: it sort of put a more punch to that red gravy.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, gosh, gravy, gosh, that's terrible when you when you
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: realize what that is, it's just it's terrible. It really is. Hey,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: t bone when you steer into the abyss. It will
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: stare back, Yes, it will.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: I had I had something I was going to say
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: that was so great, and then I totally forgot. I
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: had one of those senior moments, Dennis, because yeah, I know,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: there's so many people that in here. And Marina just
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: reminded me that she'd had a dog man encounter too.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: She lives up near Chicago. Dog Men are everywhere. Okay,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: They're all over the world, y'all. We have dog man
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: reports here in Georgia. Alabama gets a lot of dog
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: man reports all over the southeast. Really we have. I
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: think we probably have. I don't know if we have
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: as many dog man reports as they do up in
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: like Ohio and Michigan the United States.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: Interesting thing about dog Man Jessica, he doesn't just show
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: up in the woods anymore. He is honing our cities.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: He's honing our neighborhoods. He's showing up at our doors
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: and windows. Let's going on with that. You know, we
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: don't have to go out and the woods looking for
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: him anymore. You may run into him around the next corner.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah you might. You might.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: Just yeah, I hope I do.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: Now, I hope everybody else doesn't unless you really want
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: to have one of those encounters.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: I'm cool with it. That's why I go out in
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: the woods all the time, Okay, is to.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: Go. I had a recent werewolf case given to me
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. This is wild, wild stuff. I
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: won't go into it today. It's a long story, but
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: I told the people that didn't encounter this, you were
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: absolutely incredibly lucky to survive to tell me the story,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: because that doesn't usually happen with a werewolf. And this
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: was not doll man. This was an actual werewolf, definitely.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: And you've got to remember there may be a lot
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: of people who ran into a werewolf that are not
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: around to tell us about it.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I would think, so yeah, that's why I
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: was I was kind of saying that earlier with the
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: you know what would happen if you get bitten by
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: a werewolf? Well, I think if you get bitten once,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: you're probably gonna be bitten a bunch of times. So, uh,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: good luck, Okay, good luck. I know that's terrible, but
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: uh but that's but that's true. But you know the
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: majority of the reports that we get, and I guess
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: this kind of goes back to well, people who get
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: eaten by dog men and were wolves, you're probably they're
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: you're not gonna know they did, probably because they just
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: go missing. But the people who do live through these
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: encounters see it. They seem to be pretty bland and
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say bland, okay, but benevolent or
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: just kind of not not. They may be a little
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: bit scary, but they don't get hurt. Okay, they're not
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: getting attacked. Uh and so, but like I said, we
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: do have a lot of missing people all over the world,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: especially in the United States, and maybe maybe some of
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: them were victims of dog men and werewolves.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, you go back and look at a
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: lot of the history of the myths, the legends, the
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: stories of people encountering dog headed people in different parts
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: of the world. So you usually don't talk about them,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: you know, like trying to eat them or anything. You
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: know that they're being attacked by these people. They're acting
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: almost very civilized in some aspects, just like, oh, yeah,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: that's the guys that live next door. And by the way,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: they happen to have dog heads. Okay, that was kind
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: of the way they looked at it. Ancient people did,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: and they weren't. Really. They didn't show a lot of
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: fear about these people. It was almost as if, you know, hey,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: we take it in stride. Yeah, we got some dog
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: headed people living in the mountains here. You didn't hear
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: too much about being attacked by these things. That's the
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: interesting part about it. And you know, that happens with
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: dog men a lot now. I know, there are a
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: lot of stories of dog Man supposedly master screen people
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: and doing something and that, and you know what, that
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: may be the way it goes. You've got good people,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: you got bad people. You got good dog men, you
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: got bad dog men that may go wild and do
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: psychopathic things sometimes, but most of the time dog Man
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: lets you walk away from the encounter, you know, and
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: to tell you little to tell about it. But that
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: does not usually happen with the werewolf. You're not gonna survive.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: That's just the way that goes. And that's that's the
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: you know, powerful of course, it's like most of the
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: time people who run into sharks, you know, don't survive
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: that encounter. Some do, some are very lucky to do that,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: but a lot of them don't. And I don't see
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: that happening a lot with dog men though, you know
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: that's the interesting part about dog Man.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, more Jimmy Pann. I need to bring Jimmy back
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: on him and him and James Drink. Those are some
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: great shows. We did talk about vampires a while back.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: I think that was last year. A lot of good
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: information on vampires and wear wolves and Bigfoot and all
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff with a secret space program. But wow, Yeah,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: this has been a pretty interesting and informative and fantastic show. Again, Dennis,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: we always have a really good conversation every time you
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: come on here, and I did. I did see some
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: people that were mentioning how the cryptids have moved into
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: the cities now, including a lot of dog men sightings
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: are happening in our sub suburban areas in the United
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: States and over in the UK. I see Andy in here.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: What's up Andy over in the UK. We've got our
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: UK friends in here today. Lots of werewolf and dog
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: man sightings in the towns and in the cities. Spit
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: it out there, Jessica. Just like this the hexam head.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: It actually happened in a This is in a town.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: It's not like out in the middle of the country somewhere. Uh,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: these heads were found in the city and that's where
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: these this wear wolf was showing up in these people's
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: home in the middle of a town.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: So somebody's garden. Yeah, you never know what your mind.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: You might want to be waiting for you in your yard.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: But that is very interesting, Jessicain, I tell you something
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: else that you know we need to tell We need
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: to tell people what to do if you encounter something
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: like this, as you have this kind of a situation
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: going on, or you find yourself in this kind of
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: a situation, the main thing you need to do is
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: to stay calm, and you need to uh, definitely call
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: on somebody to help. Somebody that you can contact, somebody
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: like me and Jessica or somebody else like that that
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: you know that maybe you want advice about it. But
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: I've had a lot of people. So what do I
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: do if I run into dollar man or I think
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: is aware. Well, the best thing to do if you
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: run into an entity like that is, like I say,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: there again, stay calm, try to back out the situation
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: very quickly. Okay, do it very carefully, but never ever
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: look these things in the eyes. That's the one thing
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: you don't do like the woman in the glass house,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: don't look at it in the eyes. That's the one
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: thing you don't do because these things have a power,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: uh sometimes a dark power to them that can overtake
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: you if you're not careful. So don't do that, But
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: try to back out the situation as calm and quietly
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: as possible. That's the one way to handle these things.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: Another thing way is to be spiritually protected against some
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: of this stuff, and that is good to have a
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: blessed object like a necklace or a cross, or a
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: pen or whatever, something that you know that kind of
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: puts an order of protection around you. Be ready spiritually
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: for some type of a encounter like this. That's the
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: main thing, because you never know what we were saying
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: just just a few minutes ago. Around the next corner
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: down the street, you may run into something like this.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: I think. I think it's becoming much more prevalent. Somebody
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: asked me the other day, why is all this paranormal
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: stuff going on? And even people who here's interesting things, Jess,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: Even people who are not involved in the paranormal like
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: you and I are seeing this, okay, And then they're
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: asking me this question. Why is this going on? Why
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: was there's so much more activity. I'll tell you why.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: One of the reasons we can blame cern, we can
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: blame some other stuff. But I think one of the
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: major reasons why this increases happened is because we are
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: more aware of it. Our awareness is rising greater than
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: there has ever been before, and so we are opening
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: ourselves up mentally, physically to these things and of course
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: spiritually as well. And I think that's what's going on
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: with a lot of this. We're becoming more aware. I
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: think an age of awareness of awareness is taking place here.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to agree on that people are seeing them,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: they're more aware of it.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: People.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: Of course, people are still walking around with their heads
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: down on their cell phones too, but there is a
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: collective consciousness that they're more prevalent in the collective consciousness,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: I think. And Andy decodes what's up, Andy, what are
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: your thoughts of dog men in the UK. There's so
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: many reports of dog men out of the UK.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: I think it's very interesting that you would have these
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: reports on a small area like, of course Great Britain
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: is smaller than parts of the US. I think it's
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: very interesting and this is an Island too. By the way,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: where is this coming from? And I've asked myself this
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: question because I've seen, I feel a lot of reports
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: of these dog man sidings in the UK. It's very
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: interesting that these things are seen around very there you
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: go again, close proximity the cemeteries and moors, more lands
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: and forested areas with cemeteries around them. I would tell
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: anybody in the UK, if you want to have a
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: dog man experience, you need to hang out around some
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: of the cemeteries. I think you may. You may find
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: something interesting there or.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: Abandoned buildings too. I keep hearing about dog men being
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: cited around because other.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: Places these things hang out just the ruins, the old
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: ruins and sort of mystical places like mounds and things
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: like that. And that's where you hang out.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And Kelly says, dog men offer opportunities for
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: us to learn and grow as a species. It's not
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: all doom and gloom, and you are one hundred percent right.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: Listen. I wouldn't be here talking to y'all today if
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: I weren't out there chasing bigfoots and dog men around
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: the woods.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, So.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: I learned from it every day.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: That's interesting you said that. You know, anytime I ever
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: have any kind of encounter, I don't care what it's with,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: it's demonic or something like that. Here's the interesting thing.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: I always come away with it as a learning experience,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: you know. And I think that in broadening my horizons spiritually,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: millennium physically as well, I think it enhances my consciousness.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: I always come away with it as a learning experience.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: I learned something new every.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: Time I do too, and I love learning. I never
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: want to stop learning. I never will stop learning. And uh,
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: and that's why I bring people like you on, Dennis. Okay,
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: That's why I bring you on because I always learned
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: something from you and uh, and I learned some more
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: stuff today and I hope the audience did too.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: You even have your own channel, Dentnis and uh and
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: I know you've got some shows coming up. You've got
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: a show tonight, don't you. What do you have going
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: on on your on your schedule this evening?
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: So actually, uh, I think next week, I think NEX Wednesday,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: I have Brian Minnick on my shove from Strange Mota,
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: and then I also have Vic Condaf lined up for
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: I think of the week after that. So you and
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: I we think a lot. Yes's a good great mind
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: thinking like anyway, I've got that going down on Hunting
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: the Shadows. Next the bit Monday coming I will be
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: on with my good friend Gerald Fountain for another interesting
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: episode of The Road Less Traveled, and then tonight on
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: Paranormal Point of View, I'm going to be doing a
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: review on a book by a lady I did an
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: interview with the other day. She is actually a she's
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: a duchess. Yeah, I'm doing wrong with you now, folks. Okay,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: she's a duchess and she is also a direct descendant
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: of Count Dracula.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're talking about Danielle. I know, Danielle the Duchess.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: That's gonna be that's going to be really good. What
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: time is that tonight? Nine pm Eastern?
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  Speaker 1: That's the night at nine o'clock PM Eastern Town and
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  Speaker 1: all my shows at nine o'clock PM Eastern Standard time,
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  Speaker 1: eight o'clock Central. And also, if you want to read
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  Speaker 1: any of my books, they are available on Barnes and Noble.
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  Speaker 1: The title of two of them is Beyond the Shadows,
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  Speaker 1: A Field Guide to the Paranormal, and the other book
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  Speaker 1: is called The Road a paranormal Journey in the Highest Strangeness.
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  Speaker 1: So you can look those up on Amazon or Barns
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  Speaker 1: and Noble and you can reach me if you've got
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  Speaker 1: any strange stories you want to tell you need advice,
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  Speaker 1: I have a consulting service. I consult with people all
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  Speaker 1: over the world about their paranormal problems. If you want
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  Speaker 1: at Dennis Wcrol dot com or dennist W. Caroly gmail
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  Speaker 1: dot com.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, my moderators have been putting the links
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  Speaker 2: for you in the chat this entire show, So you
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  Speaker 2: guys go over and check out the live chat. I've
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  Speaker 2: If you guys would like to click on go support Dennis,
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  Speaker 2: become a member of his YouTube channel his patreon as well.
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  Speaker 2: He does have a Patreon, and purchase his books and
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  Speaker 2: go subscribe to his channel Hunting the Shadows on YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, and you can. You can join his groups
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  Speaker 2: on Facebook too, Legends, Trackers Society, and Hunting the Shadow.
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  Speaker 2: So Dennis, thank you so much for being here today.
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  Speaker 2: I really appreciate you.
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  Speaker 1: I have the best time, always a vast pleasure.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you man. We have a great time and what
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  Speaker 2: a wonderful chat today. I've saw so many faces in
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  Speaker 2: there that I know personally and just good friends and
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  Speaker 2: great mods.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And I just want to thank everybody for being here.
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  Speaker 2: I'll see all my channel members in here too. I
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  Speaker 2: appreciate y'all, and please come back and see me. What
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  Speaker 2: is what is say? Monday? So I'll be back on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: We have Brad Olson coming on the show. Brad is
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  Speaker 2: if you ever go to a conference, Brad's usually a
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  Speaker 2: headliner at every conference that's ever been made. I swear
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  Speaker 2: brad' said a wonderful speaker, an author. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: be talking about deep underground military basis, cryptids, and Antarctica.
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  Speaker 2: He is our resident expert on Antarctica big time. So
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  Speaker 2: if you guys want to know what's really going on,
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  Speaker 2: the full disclosure starts in Antarctica, according to Brad, and
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  Speaker 2: we're really gonna We're really gonna dive deep down into
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  Speaker 2: Antarctica on Wednesday. You guys do not want to miss
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  Speaker 2: this show. It's gonna blow your mind. It's gonna blow
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  Speaker 2: my mind. Brad is so high vibe, good energy. Come
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  Speaker 2: back and see me one pm on Wednesday. Brad will
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  Speaker 2: be here and the next Wednesday we do have bit
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  Speaker 2: Kunduff coming on with dog Bandingcounters. So yeah, we've got
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  Speaker 2: an interesting, interesting lineup. So Dennis, thank you again for
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  Speaker 2: being here. I will see you tonight in your chat.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait. And y'all have a wonderful day. Everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Please stay safe out there. Don't touch cursed objects. If
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  Speaker 2: you find something weird and you dig it up, just
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  Speaker 2: leave it. Please take advice from me and Dennis. Just
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  Speaker 2: leave it. Don't take it in your house or you
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  Speaker 2: might get cursed. All right, Dennis, have a wonderful day.
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  Speaker 2: Hey y'all, I will see you guys back here on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: Bye y'all. Bye bye baby, bye baby, bye bye