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Patriots Unfiltered 2/15: Super Bowl Recap, Coaching Staff and Front Office Moves, Evaluating the Draft WRs · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: bat We gets Unfiltered. Seymour is again of finalists. Is
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  Speaker 1: what four years in our life think? So based on
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  Speaker 1: who he's up against, he should get it. I should
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  Speaker 1: get it. He should get him. I didn't even remember
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  Speaker 1: what he was pushing. Now, Okay, yes, right, you're right.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you could say helmets. Well, are we
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  Speaker 1: a king? I don't like the process. It's got to
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  Speaker 1: be a better way, right, let me just do it.
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  Speaker 1: But I hope he asked me. I'll tell you what
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  Speaker 1: happens when the guys get up there and friends like,
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  Speaker 1: who's who is that? I don't know him. If I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, he shouldn't be induce and Dusseldorf, he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be our man, Onderstrasse. I have a wildlife calendar up
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  Speaker 1: in my office area that the picture was of a tiger.
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  Speaker 1: Flip the calendar over and it says February first, Chinese
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  Speaker 1: New Year, Year of the Tiger. All these things are
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  Speaker 1: coming together if the Bengals are gonna win. Wrong? Was
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  Speaker 1: it a tiger calendar? And then I realized it's actually
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  Speaker 1: a Tiger calendar is Patriots Unfiltered fueled by Duncan. All right,
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  Speaker 1: welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here at Giles
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  Speaker 1: Stadium in the Los Angeles Rams are your champions of
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. The right team won, the good guys won.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I mean, good game. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: was on a game. Good halftime, not the greatest ever,
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  Speaker 1: but good and commercials were met. I'd agree overall. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I just thought it was funny. Everyone was, Like I
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  Speaker 1: asked Paul, I'm like, why didn't you tweet out that
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  Speaker 1: this was the greatest halftime show? Because everyone as soon
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  Speaker 1: as it happened. Oh, I mean I expected Moral to
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  Speaker 1: do it because I know he loved it. Eminem could
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  Speaker 1: just like literally have walked right through one for one
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  Speaker 1: second and he would have been, like he said, like
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  Speaker 1: there were easter eggs there that I had no I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't even the best part when Drey sat at the
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  Speaker 1: piano and did the rift to I ain't mad at
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  Speaker 1: your own like, I had no idea what he was playing.
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  Speaker 1: I I like, so it didn't mean as much to me,
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  Speaker 1: but it was good. It was good, but you two
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  Speaker 1: was still the best in my opinion, and I will
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  Speaker 1: fight you if you disagree that. Two thousand and one right, yeah, Prince, Prince,
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  Speaker 1: Prince was a lot of people mentioned Prince as you know,
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  Speaker 1: their go to, but that you two one man chills chills.
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  Speaker 1: I just that one stands alone for me, just because
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  Speaker 1: there were so much more to it. Otherwise, it's just
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  Speaker 1: kind of like music that's on while I get some food.
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  Speaker 1: How much music can we fit into ten minutes? Right?
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  Speaker 1: And it's a scramble and then they come out and
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  Speaker 1: they play the hits and yeah, it's fine. So anyway,
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  Speaker 1: the game was fine. Um, the game was okay. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You know a lot of people upset because the refs
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  Speaker 1: inserted themselves at the end. It was all makeup because
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  Speaker 1: they missed that they missed the face mask and they
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  Speaker 1: were like, okay, that's seven points that we have to
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  Speaker 1: make up, so they made sure that they did. Got
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  Speaker 1: Logan Wilson with the defensive holding was a bad call.
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  Speaker 1: The holding was the interference was a good call. I agree, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but all it took was one one bad call. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: there was like you said, that was not anywhere near
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  Speaker 1: as bad of the call as the one they missed.
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  Speaker 1: I know that gave him a seventy five yard touchdown. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, Um, you know, good for the Rams, you know,
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  Speaker 1: good for the league. Have that LA team winning, maybe
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  Speaker 1: they can actually get some real fans. It's good for
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  Speaker 1: stopping the narratives. Yeah, the Stafford narrative more but more
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  Speaker 1: importantly the you can't do it that way narrative, which
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  Speaker 1: I despise, as you know, because I go with the
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  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick line of thought that there are a million
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  Speaker 1: different ways to do it. Well you can't. You can
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  Speaker 1: do it that way for a year or two. Five Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's this, We're going on five for a year or
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  Speaker 1: two you know. Okay, So yeah, at some point they
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  Speaker 1: won't have a quarterback good enough to win it all,
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  Speaker 1: and they won't be able to do it anymore because
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Stafford's going to be there for twenty years. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's the only way you sustain something like that is
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  Speaker 1: if you get a quarterback who's great and he's there
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  Speaker 1: for ten plus years, and then you can sustain it
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  Speaker 1: for ten plush years. They won't, I agree with Fred.
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  Speaker 1: They will not be able to sustain this because Stafford
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  Speaker 1: will be gone and the chances of the next guy
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  Speaker 1: coming in and being as good as Stafford. You forget
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  Speaker 1: about Brady as good as Stafford. Yeah, the no look pass.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't realize that at the time. It was a
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  Speaker 1: no look pass. But now that you see it, the
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  Speaker 1: cahonis to in that moment, glad you said that. To
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  Speaker 1: be able to do that is I mean that play
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  Speaker 1: alone should have got him MVP. Yeah, I mean that,
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  Speaker 1: to to be able to have the confidence to do
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  Speaker 1: that in that moment, that showed me a lot. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so I want to I'm glad you said this. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and you know I love me some Stafford, Right, you
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  Speaker 1: guys know where I go. He's your binkie. He's one
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  Speaker 1: of my binkies, no question. That was dumb. Why did
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  Speaker 1: he do that? Like, well, he was looking. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's a this on Twitter, the guy I can throw
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  Speaker 1: to his cup and I have to pretend that I'm
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  Speaker 1: not throwing it to him, and why I suppose, But like,
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  Speaker 1: wasn't it a little bit too much time to be
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  Speaker 1: saying I'm gonna trust the fact that I'm gonna look
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  Speaker 1: over there and assume von Bell is gonna bite and
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  Speaker 1: move because he misses it by like less than a
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  Speaker 1: yard and he completely bites for the the ie fake
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  Speaker 1: like he's moving to his left as Stafford is looking left,
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  Speaker 1: well to Stafford's right, right, Yeah, he's moving to von
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  Speaker 1: Von Bell is moving to his left, and then all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, he blindly throws it back. If what
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  Speaker 1: if Bell didn't move as much and he and that's
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  Speaker 1: you can't see him if you don't look like he could. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I just say it was an incredible play.
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  Speaker 1: But I look at it, I was like, why did
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  Speaker 1: you do that? That was homes Like what like? Why
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  Speaker 1: like it too? He put the little tweets I like that.
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  Speaker 1: I like that makes fun of himself. Yeah. Yeah. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, now a lot of people are saying, even
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  Speaker 1: your guy, the fact that the Bengals got that far
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  Speaker 1: is a good thing for the Patriots because it shows
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  Speaker 1: you eliminate them. No, it you know, because he didn't
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  Speaker 1: think that Burrow played that great in the game, you know,
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  Speaker 1: or even the game before, and that you know, you
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  Speaker 1: can you can get there, you know with a guy
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  Speaker 1: who isn't playing, you know, isn't you know who said
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  Speaker 1: that's dumb? Yeah, because because Barrow played at an elite
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  Speaker 1: level throughout the stretch drive and into the playoffs. Did
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  Speaker 1: he play elite Sunday? No, Yeah, but don't tell me
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  Speaker 1: you could just get there doing whatever, right. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: I'll be surprised if they're not an outlier. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think that they will. I think they're an outlier
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  Speaker 1: for different reasons. I agree with they'll remain a good AFC,
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  Speaker 1: you know, North team, but we all know what the
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  Speaker 1: you know, what the bengalship does and how things tend
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  Speaker 1: to go. And I think that that's unfortunate because you've
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of young talent there. But I think
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  Speaker 1: the bigger thing for me is just Paul's original point
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  Speaker 1: that there's so many different ways to do it. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, just because the Bengals went from nothing to
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  Speaker 1: having a really great Super Bowl run this year, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I just I think that's the league and every year
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  Speaker 1: there's gonna be teams. Maybe there's a great team that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't um you know. I just I think the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: are their own thing, and I you know, I think
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  Speaker 1: the point with Paul's too was just you know, trading
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  Speaker 1: first round picks after first round picks, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's not how they do things around here. But um,
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  Speaker 1: I just I like that it's going to be this competitive.
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  Speaker 1: But I just I think still look at the AFC landscape,
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  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is like one of many many problems to
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  Speaker 1: think about. Oh yeah, and I think that the Bengals,
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  Speaker 1: I'm with Mike. I just I don't trust the Bengals
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  Speaker 1: to repeat it. I think that you can look at
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  Speaker 1: them and you say, well, they get a decent defense,
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  Speaker 1: they have some good young players on that side of
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  Speaker 1: the ball. They have obvious young weapons on the offensive
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  Speaker 1: side of the ball. What do they need offensive line?
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  Speaker 1: Do you trust them to fix it? Like they have something?
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  Speaker 1: They supposedly have tons of cash available, tons of cap space.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think Mike Brown's gonna spend it? Like I
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  Speaker 1: don't trust them to do it right? Number one and
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  Speaker 1: number two? What do you what do you guys think
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  Speaker 1: on the history element of guys teams that go to
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  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and lose their first time, I think
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  Speaker 1: there's something to that. So in that regard, like if
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  Speaker 1: they had won, like I would still have all of
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  Speaker 1: my preconceived notions about the Bengals in their ineptitude, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in Mike Brown's you know, frugal nature, to put it kindly. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but if they had won, you'd say, well, they could
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  Speaker 1: be a force to be reckoned with. But when they lose,
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  Speaker 1: and I think, um, you're a guy Felger, you know, again,
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  Speaker 1: not doing any research. Off the top of his head.
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  Speaker 1: He goes, who's the last guy that lost their first
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  Speaker 1: time that that ended up getting back in winning? And
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  Speaker 1: he went all the way back to John Elway and
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  Speaker 1: like the late nineties, right, Yeah, I've seen a lot
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  Speaker 1: of Marino. Marino never went back. Yeah, like always the
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  Speaker 1: first guy well and it took him a long time.
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  Speaker 1: The last guy that lost the first time he went
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  Speaker 1: and went back and won. Jim Kelly's I think the
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  Speaker 1: last guy who lost the first time and even made
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  Speaker 1: it back, you know. So like a guy like Garoppolo
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  Speaker 1: tried to do that this year he lost his first time,
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  Speaker 1: he tried to get back, he fell a game short. Um,
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  Speaker 1: so I think that is a tough thing. But to me,
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  Speaker 1: that's more circumstantial. It is. Yeah, And I see. I
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  Speaker 1: mean I look at Kansas City as as still kind
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  Speaker 1: of the standard in the AFC, and I mean that's
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  Speaker 1: established code. There's a love gym at the top, and
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots aren't in it. That's the problem, right, And
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  Speaker 1: you know there's a lot of teams that you need
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  Speaker 1: to get better than. Yeah, starting with with Buffalo and
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  Speaker 1: Miami too, you know, who beat them twice this year.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, I think Buffalo has kind of proven
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  Speaker 1: to me that in their division, it's it's there's two.
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  Speaker 1: But then the league, why, it's a lot of jam
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  Speaker 1: that they they're not part of right now. That's why
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  Speaker 1: it's hard to get past thinking about Buffalo in Miami
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  Speaker 1: at this point. But you know, I think Buffalo has
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  Speaker 1: earned my respect though as far as you know, Cincinnati
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  Speaker 1: young coach, they'd certainly have weapons. And I think when
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  Speaker 1: you look at like Kansas City's offense, Kelsey Hill, Mahomes,
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  Speaker 1: they've kind of kept it going with that core pieces
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  Speaker 1: of change. But that and I think that Cincinnati could
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  Speaker 1: do it. I think Buffalo has kind of done it.
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  Speaker 1: They they've earned my respect over the last couple of
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  Speaker 1: years of assistant getting better. Cincinnati, maybe they can do that,
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  Speaker 1: but they have to they have to prove it to
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  Speaker 1: me over there. Now. You mentioned the coach of the
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  Speaker 1: Bengals in terms of comportment I thought he comported himself
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  Speaker 1: better than McVay sheen. McVeigh was in full force. Did
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  Speaker 1: you see the she like he was starting to yell it?
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  Speaker 1: I see, I kind of disagree with you or I
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  Speaker 1: think they both coached terrible games, by the way, but
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  Speaker 1: that I'm just talking about comportment, like how they looked
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  Speaker 1: on the sideline. Yeah, I feel like I would. I
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  Speaker 1: thought was much more under control than he normally is.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't have any other unless I did. I you know,
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  Speaker 1: in full disclosure, I was at least eight middle of like,
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  Speaker 1: oh boy by the half, so I may have missed it.
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  Speaker 1: But did he have any of those like wild runs
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  Speaker 1: down to the end zone to like tackle something? Now,
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  Speaker 1: there weren't any of those, but he had the sheen
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  Speaker 1: going well, so he's sweating. Yeah, So that means that
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  Speaker 1: he was like it was like the hottest super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: since like thirty years. McVeigh was going and you could
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  Speaker 1: see like he was feeling it like well. I think
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  Speaker 1: both coaches insisted on running the ball in early downs
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  Speaker 1: way too way too much, and especially with Cincinnati I
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  Speaker 1: think could hurt them. Cincinnati ran it better than the
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  Speaker 1: Rams did, yeah, but not well enough to be content
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  Speaker 1: to make it second and eight for Joe Burrow to
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  Speaker 1: get killed the whole second half. Yeah, and that's what
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  Speaker 1: kept happening. They would even then they would throw. Once
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  Speaker 1: in a while, they would throw, like a pass on
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  Speaker 1: first down for like six or seven yards, then they'd
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  Speaker 1: run it to set up third and seven. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like what are you doing? Yeah, just you know,
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  Speaker 1: and they would obvious passing situations like we may fun
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  Speaker 1: of the Patriots, you know, with the draws and the
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  Speaker 1: half back screens of them, but that's what they kind
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  Speaker 1: of needed to do. Yeah, you know, they needed to counter.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought especially they were second half. I thought
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  Speaker 1: the first half, like the halfback option terrific call. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like a good, good jump starter in the
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  Speaker 1: red zone. No, you got to get in there. It
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  Speaker 1: worked great. Obviously when the calls work, you know, big
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  Speaker 1: great calls. I know how that works. But I thought
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  Speaker 1: he showed some creativity early and in the second half,
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  Speaker 1: you know, culminating with the third and one to have
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  Speaker 1: p Ryan wismatise. He really liked that call to have
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  Speaker 1: some IRG p Ryan in the game on third and
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  Speaker 1: one with under a minute left in the in the
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  Speaker 1: biggest game review of life to me, while Joe Mixon's
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  Speaker 1: on the sideline. Yeah, just makes no sense. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean that's and that's counter to what the Rams did.
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  Speaker 1: At the end of the Rams, it was Cooper Cup.
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  Speaker 1: We gotta go to Cooper Cup. I mean, that's how
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna win this game. And they did it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was the interesting part to McVeigh because I think
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  Speaker 1: that was the adjustment he had to do in the
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  Speaker 1: second half with you know, getting Stafford back on track
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  Speaker 1: with just Cooper Cup and yeah, I mean Cup j
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  Speaker 1: tore his aco. I guess you could just tell right
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  Speaker 1: right in his eyes, like just as soon as it happened,
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  Speaker 1: it was like, that's that's not good. Yeah, But they adjusted,
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  Speaker 1: they overcame it, and you know they made the plays. Yep. Um,
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  Speaker 1: So they had an open apology to Van Jefferson, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: who I thought had one of the most horrific games
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  Speaker 1: I've ever seen him play. Then I found out that
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  Speaker 1: maybe he was a little preoccupied because he had a
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  Speaker 1: baby that he immediately left the game and right she
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  Speaker 1: went into labor. His wife had to leave the game
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  Speaker 1: mid game, so perhaps there were more important things on
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  Speaker 1: his mind. So I want to give an open apology
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  Speaker 1: to Van Jefferson. I don't think he played I think
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  Speaker 1: he was waiting for it. He was. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: he played very well in that game. Turning to the Patriots, UM,
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if all this transpired since our last show,
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: but the brain drain, brain drain. Uh, yeah, there's more
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: more news in terms of that that Mike could come
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: down because Mike's good with the details. So Miche Lombardi
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  Speaker 1: and uh and Carmen Briscilo both following Josh to the Raiders. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and everyone's assuming that Bill's pissed, how did
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  Speaker 1: they know that Josh didn't ask Bill, Hey, is it okay?
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  Speaker 1: If I you know, plus if if if Josh want,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if Bill wanted Mick Lombardi, he would have
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  Speaker 1: promoted them right right, And so you can't. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's that one. I don't I don't see a problem
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  Speaker 1: with if he's going to go somewhere and get a promotion,
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  Speaker 1: And how can you especially hometown kind of kid, his
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  Speaker 1: dad grew up, you know, working for the Raiders. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know about the other guy. He was three years
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  Speaker 1: and I mean it's only here three years. So that's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of that. That one's a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of I think a little bit of a bind because
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  Speaker 1: I mean you have Billy Yates in last year as
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  Speaker 1: an assistant, but you know, you go from two years
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  Speaker 1: ago you have two offensive line coaches. Right now you've
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  Speaker 1: got none Um and then Bowhart agree was you know,
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  Speaker 1: also went as the court but he's here one year.
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  Speaker 1: So Briscilla will be the only one that maybe puts
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: them in a little bit of a bar. See how
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  Speaker 1: you like? Oh, I wonder how that relationship is now
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  Speaker 1: Josh and Billy. I don't think there's anything wrong with
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  Speaker 1: that really, I mean I don't know it, but certainly
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  Speaker 1: not for Mick Lombardi. Yeah. But yeah, that's and it's
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  Speaker 1: potentially five offensive coach with heart degree Lombardi, Brisilo, Um
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  Speaker 1: and then Ivan Fierce is likely retiring and who's the
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  Speaker 1: one I'm missing, oh and Josh. Yeah, so you're missing
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  Speaker 1: five offensive coaches off of what you had to end
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  Speaker 1: the year, and as of right now, all you've added
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  Speaker 1: is Joe Judge. Ye. I'm not gonna say it's not
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: an issue that was my notes today. Yeah, it's it's
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: definitely that's Priority Number one is how do we you know,
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  Speaker 1: keep the progression of mac Jones going on an upward
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: you know, conjectory. And there's not really an offensive guru
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  Speaker 1: on the staff anymore. There's nobody that you know, really
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: intrigues you. As some might say, it's not ideal, not
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: ideal um. But I you know, one one quick thought
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: on Nic Lombardi is just I wonder if you know,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: maybe it was all straightforward Josh went said, I want
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: you to be the offensive coordinat It sounds great, but
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: I also wonder if there was some kind of you know,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: taking stock of what's going on here, and you know, no,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: we're not going to promote you or this is how
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: it's going to be. We're going to keep you in
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: the quarterback or the wide receiver's position. And you know,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: maybe he didn't like what he heard the plan was here.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe that maybe not. Maybe it was just full the
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: pull to the raiders. But just one you know, I
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: don't know if you remember this, Fred, but on Friday,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: the three of us talked. Sometimes guys we talk off
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: their yeah I believe it or not, but briefly, and
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: remember I made the comment to you and I picked
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: the wrong guy. But I was wondering if there were
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: more departures to come with the offensive coaches because of
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: the Joe Judge higher. I thought that might lead and
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: I thought Nick Cayley, who I thought was here a
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: little bit longer. I thought that might lead him to
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: maybe say, I've hit a ceiling here. I'm not I'm
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: not moving up right. I mean, the tight ends coach
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: for four or five years now, I have no upward mobility.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Turned out it was Mick Lombardi, and I don't know
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: that he thinks like that. Like Mike just said, he
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: explained it. Maybe he was just looking too he had
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: an opportunity and he took it, or maybe he looked
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: at it as like I thought I was going to
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: have a chance to be the offensive coordinator here. Clearly
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: they don't think that. I need to see he does.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: You know, for all we know, Nick Kaylee does have
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: that opportunity. Maybe BILLI said, yeah, you're gonna be the
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: offensive you know he could be. Joe is gonna come
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: in and help you, and you know who knows, and
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: a lot of people and I know Mike reached through
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: this out on Sunday. Um I read this early morning
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Sunday about Matt Patricia. You know, I guess there's some
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: league personnel. I don't know what exactly that means. They're
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: gonna have to make fun of Mike for that when
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I see him next week. That's sort of a nebulous
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: league personnel term. That could be Martha at the booth.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: They believe they believe that Matt Patricia may be coming
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: back to more of a coaching role in focusing on offense.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I think it's speculation. I mean, I would make me
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: feel any bed about this. I don't know, I know nothing,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: but I would say that he's his path is more
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: toward the GM. If you told me that they wanted
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: to have Patricia returned to a coaching role and he's
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: going to head up the defense, I'd be fine with that.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I just think asking him to be more focused on
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: offense is the same of what they have guys who've
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: never really done it. Yep, yeah, you know, and maybe
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: he's excellent at it, I don't know, but he's never
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: really done an offense. Well, he's worked on, you know,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: as an offensive line assistant coach. On your show yesterday,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Stewart, who had he sometimes gets inside info on
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: his phone. Yes, he said that he heard that Adam
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Gase was at a lot of Patriots practices last year,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: So that's I'm citing the source. But he didn't. It
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: was a producer on Paul's show that said he was
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: told that Adam Gase was at a lot of Patriots practices. Well,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I did not see him. Who wasn't there? He wasn't.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe perhaps you're not really the guests that much, but
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I would. I would, I would fully embrace that. I
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: think that's what they need. I mean, I just I
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: think they need to name my offensive. I know it's overrated,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: but I'm with Mike. And the bigger picture of it, though,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: is just that, like right now, it feels like it's
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: all setting up to drive Patriot fans absolutely apoplectic about there,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: you know, being no real coordinators. It's just kind of
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Bill winging it now. You know, we don't want him
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: to get spread too thin. You talk about total turnover
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: offensive coaching staff, the defense that they've got their own problems.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Special teams they got problems too, So I would. I
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: would love to get an experienced coaching that would at
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: least give you, on one side of the ball a
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: sense of all right, we that like Josh can handle
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: you know, that's how it was last year, Like you know,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: at least one part even if I mean, and I
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: don't want to say that Judge is going to go
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: into the special teams, but like I just think you
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: need to take stuff off of Bill's plate. And the
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: same point is that you know, Patricia slipped into that
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: like Nick Kassario Ernie Adams role last year. So I
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: don't think he'd just go pulling him right out of
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: that right away. I mean that feels like an important
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: kind of job. Does that need is I was gonna say,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: does that would that be a job that would need
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: to be filled by somebody that like I don't know,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: you might yea from from what I've heard, he's made
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: too much. He's put too much of his own um
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: fingerprints on the personnel. Okay, operations where well you just
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: don't pull away from that like hires and you know
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: people we do we never even heard of or would
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: never be an a media guy like he's building up
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: that department. What's what's that kid that he took from Detroit?
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Evan uh uh Rostein Rothstein, Yeah, it sounds right, you know.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: So like he's done too much in that area where
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: you're not just going to pull away from that. You know,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: that's something he's building, you know, So yeah, that's I
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: think you're probably right. Yeah, but say since some regard
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: and like I do feel to an extent that Matt
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Patricia and Joe Judge just get a bum rap because
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: how many times does a coach fail at at at
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: another job and they're a punchline. It's just that's what
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: always happens. And you know, it's just it takes an
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: amount of you know, I guess confidence or whatever that
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Belichick has that he's able to bring those guys back,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: and you know, it's just unfortunate that I think that
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: they have earned in their whole head coaching stints. You
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: know that some questionable decisions, play calls, acquisitions, all that
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: goes into coaching, and you know, I think that's what
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: player people are kind of reacting to that they're back,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: instead of saying, like, I know that's part of their
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: experience as head coaches, but they were also here for
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: a long time. And when you keep hearing every brain
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: during brain draining, like these guys are brains that have
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: been around here that one championships that know what they're doing.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I know it wasn't great maybe in their head coaching stints,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that they don't they can't bring
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: some value back. But I think the bigger point though,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: is just that they don't seamlessly fit into what you're
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: doing now. So there's just you bring Joe Judge back.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: That'd be great if you're making them, you know, the
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: special teams coordinator, but now he's on offense and everybody's like,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: well remember that third down that they did the quarterback.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: You know they have that right there to go. So
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I just I think they get a bum rap. But again,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I just I think they need to continue to add
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I think they need some established coaches and maybe some
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: outside perspectives. I know that was a big buzz line
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: last year to bring, you know, make it more collaborative.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: But I just think it's always good to have some
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: fresh faces in. You got maybe a guy maybe Adam
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Gaze wasn't Patriots practice and saw mac Jones last I
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: would feel better about Adam Gayze coming here, yeah, than
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I do about Judge in Patricia being on the on
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: the coaching staff. And I know what your point is,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: about I would the bad rap, but I mean just
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: to ask yourself, like, what did you think of Matt
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Patricia's as a defensive coordinator? Yeah, I don't think most
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: people thought he was great as a defensive coordinator. And
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I think especially the contrast of his last year and
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: the way the Super Bowl unfolded to Flores when he
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: came in the next year and it was like night
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: and day, I think most people were like, Wow, coaching
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: had something to do with that. And now he's back,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: you know, in Joe Judges back. I don't I don't
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: really think that people thought all that highly of him.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I just would wonder if Joe Judge didn't get hired
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: by the Patriots, I think anybody would have hired him
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: in the NFL or anything other than special teams. No,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I don't think so either. Yeah, I don't think anybody
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: would have made him a coordinator. Yeah, all right, eight
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: five five Ticket Hotline web radio at Patriots dot com
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: is the email address. What did you think of the
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: coverage of the Super Bowl, like, you know, Al Michael's
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: and Collingsworth and the pregame and all that stuff. Yeah,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it was fine. I didn't really hear.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I couldn't really hear any of the were popping, but
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the Miller lights like oh yeah, but I mean like
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the Russians were in saga. I thought the venue looked amazing,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: and I think it's it's the perfect kind of cap
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: to the season having you know, as we said, the
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: weather was beautiful and just such a beautiful stadium. I
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: mean that little pond they have out in front, I mean,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: just every it's quite a it was well, it's it's
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: all that part of it's well done. Um, you know.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: As far as like new interesting stuff, I didn't really
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: get a lot of Wow that was cool. How they did?
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: You know, sometimes the Super Bowl has those like you know,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: random cameras or things that they do that little technology pumps. Yeah,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't really catch any any of that.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: It's just I don't overall, the game just felt and
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe that's because it wasn't really rooting
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: for anybody in a like active interest really, I just
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: kind of was more focused on food and drink. From myself,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I don't like the game as much when he has
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: no vested interest. I just felt like there was no
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: juice today. I thought the rock intro was stupid. Yeah. Uh,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Rodney Harrison dropped a bomb before the game talking. He
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: was the one that started the whole Aaron Donald. If
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: he wins, he's gonna quit talk. I don't know if
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: he's talking out of school or making it up or what,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: but he's the one that started that. Rodney better. I
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: hope he wasn't talking out of school. I wouldn't want
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: to be on that guy's bat No, yeah, so yeah, okay,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: yeah Mayo commercial. I thought they kind of ripped off
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: that he t office linebacker right down to like the whip.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I was that was the most surprising one. I had
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: no idea he did that. I mean, that's like a
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: day that you have to take, you know, to do
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: to shoot that. It's not like you go show up
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: for a couple of hours. He took him like thirteen
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: years to realize, Yeah, he's out of the league and
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: he coaching. Now. Another that was I was shocked to
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: see that him in that commercial. Yeah, it was funny.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: He's he's he's got a good sense. He Mayo has
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: a good personality. But again I would direct people back
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: to Terry Tate office linebacker, which I mean, was that
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: was very funny when it came up, and I mean
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: they still had the every It was very similar. Tip
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Tip used to do that in the kitchen. After that,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: he didn't probably, yeah, Terry Tate, that was Mayo. Oh yeah,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I got you. Yeah, Uh, I didn't. Yeah, I have
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: to sort of catch a lot of this stuff because
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I just, yeah, I didn't really pay much attention to
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: the commercials and like you're asking about the production of
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: the game itself, I didn't really notice a lot of that,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: just kind of watching the pictures as they go, you
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. I was, you're not watching the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: game that I was, you know, I was focused. Yeah,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: what did you think? I thought? I thought NBC did
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: a really good job with the game. I thought al
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Michaels had a good, good call. Collinsworth was good. You know.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I didn't like that they didn't really talk about that
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: that holding call, Like they're watching the replay and like
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: you clearly see and the replay there's not much there. Well,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: they didn't really say, oh, that's a bad call. No,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: they want you to tell me it's a bad call.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: They did. They had a long pause and then Collinsworth
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: was like, I don't see it. Yeah, yeah, not much there.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I mean I think you said there wasn't much there. Yeah,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: like that, like, no, tell me it's a bad call. Like, well,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I got annoyed. I don't know if you guys caught
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: and Matt had this in the in the show sheet today.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: You guys don't pay attention to this though I read
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: the show I do. Mattum he had the link to
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the pool report from the post super Bowl and they
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: asked about that the t Higgins play, and I just
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: sort of incredulous that that Ron Tolbert could say that
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: they didn't feel like there was a polling grab on
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: the face. Matt. I mean the whole play happened because
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: the receiver ripped the defensive back down by the face. Yeah, like,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I mean it was offensive apparence. Did you get about
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: did you see it in real time? Yes? See, I
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize it, and then they showed It's like,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: oh that's what like like real time. I didn't know
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: about the face mask real time, right, that's what I'm
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: talking about. He reaches out and knocks him down. You
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: could see that clear his day. That's offensive passing efference
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: forget about like face mask. And then to see it, like, oh,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: they didn't even have to say the guy took a dive.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: He grabbed him by the face, Like, I don't know
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: how they missed that call, and then to double down
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: on it and say that they didn't think it met
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: the level of face mask because there was no pulling
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: grab or something like that. Actually what it was twisting
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: grab by the face and pulled him down and pulled him.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: He pulled him. Yeah. I think the thing that bugged
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: me just about the Wilson holding call was like, this
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: is a linebacker that kind of cover cooper call. That
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: was a bad if you can't even like touch him, Yeah,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: that was what he supposed to do. What are you
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: supposed to do? Yea? And that would have set up
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: fourth and goal, right, that was the third I think
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: that was third down, and I think that would set
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: up fourth and goal from the eighth, which is a
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: low percentage play. Now they you know, unlike most people
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: that are talking about it, the game would not have
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: been then been over. The Rams had all three time outs, right, yeah,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: so they still would have been able to you know,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: force a punt, which they had done constantly throughout the
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: second half, and had a chance to go back, but
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: certainly made life easier once they had that first and
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I knew they were going to score. But then I
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: thought Burrow was gonna do it. I thought he was
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: gonna get in position for those three, but they just
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: couldn't figure out Aaron Donald, did you see? And I
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: hate these still shots, you know, I don't like this.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think still shots tell you a whole lot
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: about what goes on in an NFL game. But the
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: one on that last play that they showed that Jamar
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Chase was was pretty oh yeah. But by that I
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if if the coverage sort
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: of read the pressure, no, but you can came up.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: You could see Burrow he's no position to throw the ball. No,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I know, but it was that why Chase got open
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: right right right right? Or if there was say, well
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: the guy fell down just okay, this defender was on
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: the ground, but he felt like it wasn't because of it.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: He felt half fell down. So yeah, it's too bad
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: because that would have been dramatic. Yeah, last one up
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: like Brady to Randy Moss at the end. Can you
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: imagine I'd love to see a super Bowl like that, though,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: with the last second bomb to like come from behind
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: the other coach gets fired. Let's go let that happen
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: coverage five five Ticket outline web radio at Patriots dot
• 29:29
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• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Ace ticket out line. Kathy is on the line. What's up, Kathy? Kathy? Ah?
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Oh not there? You can call back? Uh, Chris with
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: a T I A N Hey Christian, Hey, guys, what's happening? Nothing?
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: What did you do to Kathy? She got in front
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: of me. Okay, so she'll call back later. Warri um
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I did have a question about this upcoming off season
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: and as far as getting UM players in particular through
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: the draft and you know, guys that are ready to
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: contribute right away. And I finished Mike's UM and Matt's
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: two thousand and one Odyssey was great, by the way
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: that that last episode to wrap everything up, and you know,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Poldi's in there at nauseum throughout the series talking about
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: the type of players that they wanted to get that year,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: and it was not going to be players that we're
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: going to be at the top of everybody's free agent list,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: but they we're gonna be guys that they were going
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: to bring in that they were going to coach up.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: And now you don't have the really the coaching to
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: coach it up. Understanding that you have Bill, but back
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: then you had Charlie, you had Romeo. You know, you
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: had just the slew of experienced guys. And now I
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: feel like it's so important to get talented guys that
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: can come in right away and that athletic ability can
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: can take over and then they can they can learn.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I wanted to get your thoughts on that. You know,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: we can't like reach for these guys anymore in the
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: second or third round and and project you know, two
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: to three years, like you got these guys that can
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: come in and help right away. Do you do you
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: agree with that? I do to a point. I think
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: that we've talked a lot about the Patriots dominance allowed
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Belichick to take chances in the draft, some of which
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: paid off wildly. You know, just think about Gronk and Hernandez.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: You know, Gronk for health reasons, Hernandez for a lot
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: of other reasons, were guys that the Patriots could afford.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Now they could have drafted those guys, and Gronk could
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: have just as easily been Rossi dolling right. You could
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: have been a second round pick whose injuries prevented them
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: from ever doing anything, and the Patriots would have been,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: you know, still in contention for super Bowls every year
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: because of the structure they had with the greatest quarterback
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: who's ever played. But you able to do that, I
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: don't to Christian's point, I'm not sure you can take
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: a guy like that now early in the draft. I mean,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: you can take flyers late in the draft like like
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: everybody else thinks, but you can't invest a first or
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: second round picking a guy who you're you're not sure
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: is going to be healthy enough or well will be
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: you know, staying out of trouble. Yeah. Well, the Alabama
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: receivers jump to mind, because I mean, I think that's
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: a popular one right now with Williams and Metchi that
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: two guys the tore A cls that you know that
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: and I think some people still think that way of
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: this is how you get a guy like you know,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: who might potentially be a top ten picky at towards
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: a cl but you might have to wait till next year. Yeah,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know. See now I would take a shot
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and it got like I think Metchi, if you get
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: him in the second round, like, I think that's fine,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Like because to me, it torn a c L is
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: not the same as a back problem. Like there's there's
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: no real evidence that Metchi and Williams will not be
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: able to play in the NFL. Like there was a
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: chance that people people had doubts that Gronk would ever
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: be able to play, you know what I mean, Like
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: he missed his whole last year at Arizona. I mean
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: even easily had what multiple easily had multi multiple twenty
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: acls and again first round, Like I'd rather not take
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I'd rather not take a guy in the first round
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: that I have to Richard. And I think that those
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: two Alabama receivers will be pretty close to red shirts.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: I think they got they got they toilet recls very late. Yeah,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: you know in the last guy, I mean that was
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: like what January thirteenthish or something like that. Yeah, you
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: know it's like O BJ right now, you're gonna sign
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: him in free agency, like he's probably not going to
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: be ready to go same knee too, yeah, second time. Yeah,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: And I was talking to one of our guys who
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: played football at a relatively high level in college, and
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: he blew out his knee and he said that, you know,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: there's three ways to do it, and one of them is,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: you know, you take a piece of the hamstring. But
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: once you do that, you can't really do it again,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: you know, so then you have to go to cadaver route,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: you know. So it's a question of how they fixed
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: it the first time, um can can affect how they
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: go about it the second time. Yeah. I did read
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: something that the second time is less less time in
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: terms of the comeback you can come. But I don't
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: know how that works. I don't you know. You know
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: that David Chow, the NFL doc. Yeah, he was the
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: one I read that with a lot of times. The
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: second the second recovery can be shorter. But he said,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: you'll be really really up against him being ready to go. Yeah,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: you know for the season. That's why it was crying
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: forget about one all right, Christian. But I think Christian's
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: point largely is accurate. I think that you have to
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: be a little bit. I'm not saying you can't take chance.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: It's like Mike says, I would I would roll the
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: dice on one of those Alabama receivers not in the
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: first round, though. I think they need help. I think
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: they need talent right now. Yeah, they were in a
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: different spot, but you might have to be a little
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: bit more certain with the picks that you make. Jefferson, California, Hey, Jeff, gentlemen,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Jeff oh, Paul, Paul, Paul, Paul, So I am I
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: weep for you for the off season. You guys mentioned
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: that last play in the Super Bowl where Chase beat
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey like a rented mule, and Paul, I weep
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: for the off season, blonami that you were going to
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: be able to have about the Greg Badars of the
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: world and everyone else about offensive line play after they
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: let Burrow go out there and get absolutely obliterated for
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: four quarters and give up a record number of facts
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: and they were a blade of grass from winning the
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl on that play, right, So I'll still have
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: my Blena. You don't worry about it, Okay, good? Like
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, in all seriousness, like obviously no one would
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: tell you. You know, let's be as bad as we can.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: You know, at any element of the game, they need
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: to improve their offensive line. But this is two years
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: in a row a team made it to the Super Role.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: You're telling me you can get to the super Bowl,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: but you could never win it with that kind of
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: an offensive line. I mean, isn't that kind of silly.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: You're good enough to get all the way to the
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: championship game, but you're not good enough to win it,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: because yeah, you gotta really stretch offensive. Is it your
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: fatal flaw in the biggest moments? Shest you? But I'd
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: be more willing to say it's my fatal flaw. You
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: can beat bad teams with a poor offensive line, but
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: once you start playing three teams in the playoff. Okay,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: except except for the won three playoff. But it's Joe
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Burrow and people are gonna be mad at me. But
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: what if you put Mac Jones behind that offensive line?
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Oh he did. Oh, they wouldn't have been as good. Right,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't have been right. But if you have an
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: elite quarterback, he can overcome it. Yeah, to a point,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: and some people might have been than the fatal flaw
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: that game was actually having Key Ryan run on Park.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, Jeff on that. That's like overthinking it.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: You know, they'll never think, they'll never give him the ball. Yeah,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: there's a reason why, but that's what they do. They
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: use him as their third down back, like he's James
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: White or something like this special player like Joe Mixon
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: to me is like pretty close to Alvin Kamara. I
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: think he's a really good player. Yeah, he's a good
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: all around running back. And they take him off the
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: field on third down for p rid like just losing
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: with your best players. Lose with your best in those
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: big spots. Yeah, all right, Jeff, thanks for the call. Appreciate. Hey,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: some news kind of just dropped some content news content news, Apple,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: you know. The Apple announced today it has ordered The Dynasty,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: a new documentary events series about the New England Patriots
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: from Brian Grazer and Ron Howard. Wow Howard Yeah, Imagine
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: hats their company in association with NFL Films, to join
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: its unscripted slate. The ten part docuseries Ten Parts Parts,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: is based on the critically acclaimed New York Times best
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: selling book by author Jeff Benedict. With unprecedented access to
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: the New England Patriots, Benedict spend two years inside the
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: organization and chronicled the rise and historic twenty year run
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: of the Patriots during the Brady Belichick Craft Era. The
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: documentary series directed by Emmy nominated filmmaker Matthew Hamachek, who
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: did Tiger. Oh, of course, we'll go deeper, drawing on
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: thousands of hours of never before seen video footage and
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: audio files from the Patriots organization's archive. The filmmakers also
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: have been given access to the organization during the twenty
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: twenty one season and are conducting hundreds of interviews with
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: past and present Patriot players, coaches, and executives, along with
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: staff writers, along with league officials in the arch rivals
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: of the most dominant sports dynasty. I can get on
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: board with this documentary series. If I get in it
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: not gonna lie. It's a big break Hollywood, is what
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I was waiting for an oh seven, the Undefeated season,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: just trying to think of there's anything. No, that's that's
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: pretty much it, so that it doesn't say when, does
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: this say when it's coming out? No, well, not anytime soon,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: because no one's contacted me for ten parts. But that's
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: how many teams have a ten part documentary? How do
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: you break them up? Is that like a season each?
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Or yeah? I don't know a couple, but um, I
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: love I'm really I really like the documentaries. I like
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: the format, and I think when they're you know, did
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: you guys watch the Terry Bradshaw One? No, No, okay, no,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: good show prep Steelers. So this is going to be
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: on Apple Plus, I guess yeah, Apple, Apple TV Plus.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: All right, they plussed it up. Yeah, they plussed it up.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: It was just used to be. So that's basically just
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: their streaming service. Yeah, exactly. I'm trying to keep track
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: of everything. Everything's up, but I mean thousands of hours
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: and yeah, so the question is what can they bring
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: to this that we don't already know? Because I read
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: the book Dynasty, good book, good book. I thought the
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: early part of the book was some stuff that you know,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I probably hadn't heard before. But once he got into
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: like twenty and ten and on, there wasn't I didn't
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: think it was much new. I mean, that's not you
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be the barometer. You have a good feel for
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: these things, Okay, But I'm just wondering, like what in
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: this is gonna be even more than the book? You know?
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: But like I would say, like I watched The Brady
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Man in the Arena yea, and very very little in
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: there was not known already, but I still found it entertaining. Yeah,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: you know when I go out of my way to
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: watch it. No, it was sent to me every week,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: so I watched it sent to me. Right. Well, it's
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: much like the thirty thirty documentary and the Tuck Rule.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: I you know, I got a you know, a screener. Yeah.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I think. The thing that I like about these and
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Paul I was right, like, you know, there's not like
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of Oh I didn't know that, but I
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: think what I like about it it's just hearing the
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: players that went through it and felt the same way
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I did as a fan. You have that shared experience, aience,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: and I think just to hear you know, player Patriot
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: a being devastated by a loss and you remember, oh man,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: I was so mad after that like that, That's the
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: key is who were they talking to? And maybe they
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: can add an insight that you hadn't heard before, you know. Um,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: so so this is is this like done like in
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: conjunction with us and whatnot? Yeah? Oh yeah, they've been around.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: I've I've met Jeff and we've helped them out with stuff.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: But I didn't you know, Ron Howard and Brian Great.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I mean those are big names. Yeah, you wouldn't know
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Douce big imagine, I know, yeah, Cunningham. So you know
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be well done for sure. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: I mean I would, I would really good. I mean,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Ron Howard doesn't really attach his name to to, you know,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: projects that aren't well done. Right. It's funny because I
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: think you could do You can do a ten part
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: documentary about the Patriots dynasty. You could also probably make
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: a one part about the controversies of what people really
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: want to know and what the real things are. Oh yeah,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: it's just a one part sixty minutes of You're not
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: going to see any of that that will blow up.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, but I'm sure it'll be. It'll be
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: well done, and it's great to relive it and be good,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: good chicken soup for the soul for Patriots fans. But
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: does it end at eighteen? Super Bowl fifty three? They
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: said they said that? What I mean? They said that? Um.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: The filmmakers have also been given access to the organization
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: during the twenty twenty one season and are conducting hundreds
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: of interviews with past and president Patriots players, coaches, and executives.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: So what do you think so staff writers through last
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: year and I know that, Um, on several occasions they
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: had request for us to film certain things during games
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that, so we helped them out with it.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: But uh yeah, so right through the season, so there's
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: probably gonna be stuff from last season, um that will
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: be new to this that wasn't even in the book. Yeah,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: how do you tie it together? And I mean, just
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: give me Bill, let me tell me something, tell me
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: something I haven't heard Belichick. That's I'll give you a
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: little inside. Um. I guess they were granted you know,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: one on one with Bill, and it went for an
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: extensive amount of time. Like Bill was very gracious and
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: gave them a lot of time. That was that was
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: my question, Like did he cooperate? Yeah, no, he was
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, because he does seem to have he
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: never wants to look back, but I think he does
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: have a good sense of history. So you know, as
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: it gets into NFL films historical area, then he's like,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: we'll sign me up for that. Like if it's local
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: media outlet wants to talk about the game last week,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: forget it. But you know, as we get further out
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: from that stuff. I'd love to hear his his perspective now.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: So it doesn't say when this is going to come out,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: but if they're doing ten parts thousands of I mean
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: this probably is going to be like a year from now.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I would think at least right a lot of work.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: But yeah, maybe twenty twenty two. No mention that the
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: following team around for the twenty twenty two season. Yeah,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: so good stuff, like you know, can't wait? All right?
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: FIST five hundred is the a stick at hut Line
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: web radio at patrios dot com is the email address?
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Get a lot of emails coming in? Uh spe writes
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: in from Fresno. I was pretty hyped to see Cup
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: take over the game on that drive and he didn't
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: disappoint you just felt it was about to happen. But
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: then that holding call came. It ruined the whole game
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: for me. I was just like, oh, so that's how
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: this season ends. Disappointing, deflating. At best, it's a makeup
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: call for the Ramsey face mask. At worst, the fixes
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: in either way, there's diminished credibility and fun when the
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: refs start calling an entirely different game when it matters
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: most at the end of the Super Bowl total lane crap. Yeah,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: that's just the thing with a fish. Just be consistent.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I think it was a bad call, but so we're
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: saying because there was one call, like now, it was fixed,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: so it was Was it fixed for Cincinnati originally? Is
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: that hell? It worked? That was a mistake, but then
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: they had to fix it, Jack writes in and Anaba.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Among the lessons from la Super Bowl victory over Cincinnati
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: is that a great quarterback, a great receiver, and a
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: very good defense might get a team to the Super Bowl,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: but without a great offensive line, that great quarterback will
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: struggle mightily under relentless pressure from a super Bowl caliber
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: defense that will sack and harass him throughout the game.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow had two big plays in the entire game,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: one which resulted from a fantastic catch and one which
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: resulted from a chase was perfect, he said, he said,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: He said, a resulted into fantastic. It was a fit.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: He had one hand. I know it was a really
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: good catch, but it was a perfect throw. I mean,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: let's not just throw it throw out of him. That's
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: you can. You can you can compliment chase without taking
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: it away. From your binkie. Uh, Cincinnati was out of
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: those two. Chase would be the binkie. He a guy
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: that you told me you know, came on late. I
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: was gonna say, you know, he's the rookie of the year, right. Uh,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati was lucky to even have a chance to win. Well.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: The Patriots take this lesson to heart by selecting an
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: offensive tackle in either the first or second round of
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: the upcoming draft. Yes, I would agree with you that
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati was lucky to be in the game. I would
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: agree with that. That's the only thing I agree with
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: in that whole email. Though Cincinnati was fortunate that old
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: BJ got hurt. I think the game was going to
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: be a blowout. I think the Rams are vastly superior
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: to Cincinnati. Yeah, Tony writes in one of the Bengals
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: sigh thought and said so at the time. The coach
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: made a critical error early in the game by going
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: forward on fourth down at about the fifty yard line.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Had the d played really well in the one to
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: two series, The d had played really well in the
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: one to two series up to that point, the risk
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: outweighed the benefit could have pinned the Rams deep. Instead,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: they had a short field and scored a touchdown. Wasn't
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: that the first drive of the game for the Bengals, No,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: it was later. I think there might have been another one,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: but I think it was the second drive. And um yeah,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: I also thought Hecker had a bad game. He did.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I agree? Yeah, the hold right, that was the hold
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: was all him? But Fred's right? Good? Yeah, because he
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: used to be a weapon according to Bill Belichick. Anymore,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: what's with the last couple of weeks in these coaching
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: gambles see also Todd Bowls all out blitzing instead of
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: playing a too deep safety defense. Well those are two
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: different things. Yeah, Like a lot of people go for
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: it on fourth down. Yep, Well you're looking that up.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: I am uh James and Brisbane. I haven't heard from
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: him in a while. A thought sprung to my mind
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: last week, and I wanted to ask for your thoughts
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: on it in the form of a couple of questions. Firstly,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: could you see that it was the first drive of
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: the game. It was Cincinnati fourth and one from the
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: forty nine yard line. They got stopped, so the whole
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: like the defense, but it didn't happen again. Did they
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: do it again? They got stopped in the last fourth down. No,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I mean like fourth and one. All right, Anyway, this
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: is about the Super Bowl locations. By the way, could
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: you see the game going back to New York for
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: a second time after after the next three in Arizona, Vegas,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: and New Orleans. I remember one of the big complaints
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: for forty eight was that New York City was so
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: big the week's events felt like they got swallowed by
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: the location. No, I hope not so. The Bengals went
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: for three fourth downs in the game. Okay, but the
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: first one that he's talking about was the Bengals first
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: possession of the game. The Rams got the ball, drove, stalled, punted,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati started to drive, stalled, and got stopped at midfield.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Then the Rams went in and scored. Okay, so it's
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: not like the Bengals. Yeah, the whole Bengals defense. There
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: was nobody thout. Yeah, that had yet to be established, right,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: But now I think the Bengals defense did play pretty
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: well in the game. Yeah. Um. Secondly, which other NFL
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: city could buy the ability to host Super Bowl with
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: a new stadium. It sounds like Chicago might be pushing
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: for a new stadium. It might get one from that.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Chicago's pushing for a new stadium. They just put that in. No,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: they didn't. They renovated. Yeah, yeah, they needed but it
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: was a huge what's the what's the what's the horse
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: track in Illinois? There's a I can't think of the
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: name of it. There's a that's the psyche that they
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: want to do a new stadium, Okay someone Yeah, a
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: lot of listeners. And I think history says that if
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: you build a new stadium and it's a big one,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: like not Gillette Stadium, but you know you you might
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: get a super bollet regardless of of climate and potential. Yeah,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I'd be curious how the like just generally if they
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: build an indoor one. Yeah, how was I wonder how
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: LA was just generally for you know, like you guys
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: always talk about what it was like getting around, we
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: were trapped at the mall, all that kind of stuff.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: I wonder how LA was because La can be so
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: spread out, traffic tough to get everywhere. I wonder how
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: that all worked out or if because it seems like
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: they built this place knowing this was what it was
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: going to become, So maybe it's really there's a time
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: honored tradition during Super Bowls where the media bitches and complaints.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but I didn't hear that this year. That's
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: because they were in LA. Yeah. Well yeah, I didn't
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: hear a lot of like, oh this is awful or
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: about But I think form like the East Coast guys,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: they're done at like three o'clock our time, and you
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: know their time, which is like six o'clock, right, and
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: they go out in golf or whatever they did, you know, best,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: and it changes the best. Yeah. Finally, I hate the
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: idea of playing a Super Bowl in London or anywhere internationally,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: especially in that toilet bowl of something ground. Uh, keep
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: it in the USA and move preseason and regular season
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: around instead. I don't know. I just don't know how
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: you get it on TV at a reasonable time where
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: you're not going to take a hit to your TV numbers,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: because I think that's probably a huge piece of what
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: they want. I mean, you like it starting it around
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: six thirty Eastern time, you know. Yeah, what do you
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: think of the Saturday thing that people talk about? No,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: I think they should do it on Sunday, but do
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: it on the day before, uh, presidents, so that we
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: have the holiday the next day. Yeah, we're gonna move
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: it back another week. It was already insufferable this year. Yeah,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: well when they hit Paul, when they have eighteen games,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: they're gonna have to and they're gonna have eighteen games
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: regular season games. Okay, so okay, yeah March. They're not
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: gonna move the season. They're gonna just play more games,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: move the super Bowl. More regular season games? Will you
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: played in January? Probably it's a bad that's a bad move. Yeah,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: stay at three preseason that is probably gonna drop to two. Yeah, yeah,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: ain't that'll work. Um Sean writes in from Vancouver. Pick
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: one player the Patriots resign who was currently an unrestricted
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: free agent, one player to trade, and one to cut.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: My choices would oh, he doesn't give us choice. His
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: choice would be resigned j C. Jackson, trade Nikil Harry,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: and cut Dalton Keene. I mean that we can't do that.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: That's too too broad. It's too broad. You have to narrow.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: I want to resign all the good players, trade all
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: the bad ones and the injured ones. I'm just gonna cut. Yeah,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: let's see what you did. Adam along the kind of
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: the same lines, writes in what's your idea of a
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: dream offseason from a roster standpoint, My three main points
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: would be signed Chris Godwin, draft a left tackle in
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: the first round, and figure out the J. C. Jackson situation.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, would that would all makes sense. I don't
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: want to disappoint people, but like Chris Godwin, like that
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: caliber of player. I don't think he is getting signed
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: in free agency by the Patriots. I don't think so either,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: not unless the ACL is like cut his price tag
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: in half, which I don't think will be the case.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Like if you want to say I can get this
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: guy for pennies on the dollar, then sure, but I
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: don't think they're going to invest heavily in free agent
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: receivers after investing heavily in free agent receivers last year. Yeah,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: I know, And that's I'm with you, Paul, and that's
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: what I'm a little bit. I know this offseason is
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: gonna suck because we got a call last week that
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: was kind of centering around it where I'm like, I
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be big, splashy free agency again.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be take care of in house, you know,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: keep kind of the guys that you want and really
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: focus on the draft again and it maybe fill a
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: little bit of holes. But I think, you know, kind
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: of what the other previous caller talked about or sorry
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: was Christian. You know, maybe maybe it's it's getting guys
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: on the offensive lines, you know, stabilizing all of that first,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: and then you know, worrying about it. It's just I
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: don't yea, his left tackle in the first round's not
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: out of the realm now that that could happen and
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: would be a good pick. I mean if they could
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: get say that, you know, third or fourth tackle and
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: the draft at twenty twenty one, right twenty one, Yeah,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: that would make that would make sense seas around there.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: By the way, if anyone's wondering or cares Eric is
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: not here, um, no one's noticed. Yeah, he's under the weather. Sorry,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: he's under the weather. I think Mac could go through
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: the whole thing just playing Eric drops and he could
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: probably at the illusion he's actually playing word. Uh yeah,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: me And Texas has a good question something you have
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: to consider question, would the La Rams have won the
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl in twenty and eighteen if Cooper Cup had played.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think Cooper Cup was Cooper Cup then, but
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: it would have changed the game. Obviously, it would have
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: given them another receiver and that would have been huge. Yeah,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure they would have won, but it would
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: have changed the game. I mean, certainly it was a
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: game that could have gone either way as it was.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: So you add a good player to their offense to
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: go with Mount Cooks and um Bobby Trees. Yeah, that
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: would have would have certainly helped things. I think Todd
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Gurley being healthy would have would have changed things. Yeah,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Todd Gurley wasn't healthy in that game. Yeah, let's face it.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: The game it was three to three in the midway
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: through the fourth quarter and everybody either way, nothing would
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: have changed that. The Patriots are gonna win the whole time.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Next question, Prene writes in I saw a thirty for
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: thirty on the Tuck Rule game and that Brady said,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: I if that was ruled a fumble, then he thought
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: he might be a backup for a long time, but
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: thought he could have still found a way. We can
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: never know what could have happened because it never happened,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: But hypothetically speaking, what each of you guys think could
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: have happened if it was ruled as a fumble for
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: fun purposes. Keep up the good work. Ah. I don't
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: know what the team would have accomplished, but I think
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Brady would have been the starter in two thousand and
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: two and Bledsoe still would have been traded. Do you
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: think if somehow, they for whatever reason whatever happened, went
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: to two thousand and two with Bledsoe back as the starter,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: that Brady could have somehow taken it from him again,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I mean, but the least
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: would have absolutely been shorter, right if he's not having
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: If Bledsoe is regains his job and there's not having
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: success after you just had a guy goal would have
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: been what nine and three, nine and four, right, because
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: they didn't you go eleven and three something like that.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't remember. But a guy just
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: you know, tore it up over the last three months
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: of the season and lost in the first round of
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. So yeah, he's not going to do it.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: I personally think they would have traded bledso anyway. Now,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. The Patriots would have
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: won in oh three and oh four like they did.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: I think everything changes. You can't really know that for sure,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: maybe they win in O two instead. Maybe, and maybe
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: they would have been hungry right h Sman in the
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Bay Area. A co worker said that the Rams were
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: undeserving of winning the Super Bowl based on the entirety
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: of their season. I had to laugh and responded by saying,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: two points. You could have given a list of ten
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: teams in early December that could win the Super Bowl
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: and I would have seen a reason for each one.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: The season felt more wide open than any other recent memory.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: Another reason I had to disagree with this point was
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: they built a team of all pros through trades and
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: free agents. Saying that they are undeserving wouldn't is shortsighted
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: because since they built the team to win, it hall
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: not like the Dolphins owner who's trying to throw games. Anyway.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a good game, kind of choppy
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: play in the second half and question coaching calls slash
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: ref calls. Ramsd made the stops when they needed to
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: in the second half. Higgins dropping the third down with
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: six minutes left was huge and not talked about enough.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: That was a big drop. I don't really get these
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: takes that are coming out about the Rams, like what
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: I'll give it to you. If you're wanting, I'll give
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: you the rationality you want. It all about the Patriots, absolutely, Freddie,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: don't don't tell me this isn't don't tell me the
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: backlash isn't Patriots related. They buy it. It's diametrically opposite
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: of the way the Patriots did it. So much run
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: can't be right, it can't be right. Well, but what
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: about the Collins friend that was saying it, that didn't
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: care about the Patriots? Like, what do people outside? Why? Why?
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Why listen to beat Tom Brady? If you're asking me,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: do I definitively think that the Rams were the best
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: team in football this year? There's an argument to be made.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: I think that they are because I think that they
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: had the talent all along and at times looked apart.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: They had some some bumps. But don't you think it's
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: it's not like they went nine and eight. But don't
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: you think it's an entirely different game if it's Rams
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: versus Chiefs or Bills. I mean, I think I think
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: it's also an entirely different game of ob J doesn't
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: get hurt, No, I know, but I think that there
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs or Bills beat them well Sunday, Yeah,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: the way the game unfolded, yes, full strength, No, I
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: saw that that ms. I'm talking with OBJ, and yeah,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: I think the Rams win, okay, but fully healthy. I
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: think the Rams win. They're more talented. I mean, they
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: got all the pieces. But I hear what you're saying.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: I think. I mean, I guess that's what it comes
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: back to, is that people kind of felt like Kansas
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Cea the Buffalo on their best day, probably better than
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: because we're at all enamored with offense. And that was
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: the best game ever because no punting was allowed. And
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: I loved it. It It was wildly entertaining. The Chiefs Bills game.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: I loved it, And I didn't love this game Sunday.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: But I think that the Rams could have had that
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: kind of an offensive game had they stayed healthy. Losing
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: not just O b J, playing without the Higbee and
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: having lost Robert Woods earlier in the year dramatically impacted
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: their offense. Not having cam Acres all year dramatically impacted
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: their offense. They were the best team. They were really
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: really talented. Again, if you want to tell me that
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: Green Bay was more talented, I'm not gonna argue, Yeah,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: I think Green Bay was really good. I think Kansas
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: City is really good. I don't think Kansas City played
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: at the level of the Rams all year. To you, No,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Kansas City just kept winning games because they have know
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: mahomes and they found a way to win games and whatnot.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: But I don't think they ever looked quite like themselves. Yeah,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: and I think there are some good teams. I agree
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: with the way the guy said it. If you ask
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: me in December, there was eight or ten teams, you know.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: I think the Bills, the Chiefs, the Rams, Um probably
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: the Titans, the Cowboys, the Bucks, the Packers. I would
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: have been able to make an argument for any of
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: those teams, even forty nine absolutely, Freddie, Yeah, forty nine
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Ers are a talented team. Yeah. I don't always feel
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: though that I need to say that whoever wins the
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl was the best team in the league. It's
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: it's totally unique kind of you know, it's a tournament,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: it's it's a unique set of games. They won the
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: last game. Yeah, I mean, I don't. I mean, I
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: don't think and would anybody say the Giants were the
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: best team in football seven? But they but you know,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: executed their matchups. And we were talking about the halftime
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: and like, oh, somebody said, what was your worst halftime
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: that you saw that you were at? Said probably the
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Tom Petty one. I couldn't figure out why, I said.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Then somebody said that was ZO seven and I was like, oh,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: that's why I hate it. And it was ten seven
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: and sixty. Well whenever the school wasn't it was seven three, right, Yeah,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's probably why I hated it. In
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: a dark place. In a dark place, Patty's an agawam
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: on the A sticket outline. Hey Patty, it's up, guys. Okay.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: I wanted to get into just a couple of quick things.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: The first thing is, um, I'm I'm a little bit
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: worried with all the the offensive assistance that were we've
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: lost this this offseason so far, just in you know,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: the whole development of Mac Jones and sort of uh
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: piggyback off of that. The more I think about it,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: the more I would like to see them draft. If
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: they're gonna go and draft a wide receiver, I would
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: like to see them get like a John Metchi who
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: can play like multiple spots that has like rapport with
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones, and he's a separator too. I mean he's
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: a guy that gets opened consistently and sort of following
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: the footsteps of what Cincinnati did and with what Miami
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: did this past. You're getting Wattles to team up with Tua,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: and just wanted to get your guys opinions on that,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: as long as you're okay with him not playing this year, right, Yeah, Yeah,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: And I mean I think everybody's kind of on that train.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: And it's hard. I mean, I dip my tone into this,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: but you flip on John Metchi and you see him
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: catching a bunch of awesome paths Mac Jones, and you
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: know you're like, good, No, Mechi's a good player and
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: this is what they need. The only thing I would
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: caution about Metchi is the year that he had with
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones. He was like, way down the list of
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: behind priorities is because they they had Wattles and Smith. Yeah,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: I think Ruggs was already gone the year that Mac
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: Jones played. Maybe if you go back two years, so
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: when Tua got hurt and Mac played the last game,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: you know a couple of games. Um, But Metchi is
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: a good player, and I would absolutely take him if
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: you could get him, you know, later on because of
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: the town a c L. But I think you need
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: players to help you right now? Yeah, thanks Patty. Yeah,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: that's it's that's a tough one. I mean, I think,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: as you said earlier in the show, I think later rounds,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: if you could get him in the second or third
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: on day two. But yeah, it's it's just you got
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: three guys that this year who gall came in and played,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: and I think you need at least three this year.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't even have to be that one. Does
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: the fact that you have a smaller cash of picks
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: to work with it in the first place, does that
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: further discourage you from taking a risk like that, Like
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: if you only have you I think they have six
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: picks right now, right, yeah, right, that's six picks. Can
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: you afford to take a guy with a twenty ACL
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: who may or may not even be able to play
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: for you next year's I'm sure that's the debate probably
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: going on. But what do you just say, screw it,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: he's a good player, I can get really good value.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: I get him in the third round and if even
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: if he can't play for me in twenty twenty two,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a good player for the next three
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: years after that, or you know, like you might lose
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: out on it. And because another team that has more
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: already is more willing to take that show, well, those
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: would be dumb teams that take ye you know, so
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: like we may not, like we may not be the
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: only team willing to take the long term view on him. Yeah,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: you know, especially a team that has what it needs
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  Speaker 1: right now. And like I've said, you can make a
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  Speaker 1: case for any position pretty much on the roster that
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  Speaker 1: you need. So it's as much as you could look
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  Speaker 1: at like Metchi at round two. I can guarantee you
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  Speaker 1: that there's a cornerback or a tackle or a linebacker
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  Speaker 1: or somebody else in there that might be out there
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  Speaker 1: week one, and and I get the desire to find
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  Speaker 1: an Alabama guy to pair with Mac who he might
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  Speaker 1: know already. And I think there's value to that. I do.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, you start with with Waddle and Tua,
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  Speaker 1: you start with Chase and Borrow, So I do think
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  Speaker 1: that there's some merit to that theory. But can't you
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  Speaker 1: find a guy in a second or third round at
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver who doesn't have a torn a cl yep.
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  Speaker 1: That would be as good as John Metchi. And maybe
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't have the relationship with Mac Jones, but he
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: has is probably as much talent as those guys, right,
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  Speaker 1: And it's the same thing. It's now the other guys.
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  Speaker 1: The other guy might be special Williams, he might be.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: He might be. But still, I mean, I think he's
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  Speaker 1: got his issues of being coming from Ohio State and
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  Speaker 1: I mean going you know, the two guys from Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State are real good too, um and there is and
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: that's just it goes back to what we talk about
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  Speaker 1: the last two years. And here we go year three.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Where's he going? Right? Same? Same? Is he a second rounder?
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Most of what I've seen second half of first I
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: mean it's all over the place this year. I could
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  Speaker 1: I've seen him in like mantras ten to thirty like
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  Speaker 1: throughout that well. And I want to take him in
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: the host part. I don't want to receive in the
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  Speaker 1: first round. Ye. But but but it's again day two.
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  Speaker 1: There's a bunch of them. I can find a day
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  Speaker 1: receiver that's healthy, that that can help me and the
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  Speaker 1: more edge guys tackles. Just don't ask me who it
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: is Yeah, the edge guys, well you'll you'll see. I mean,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm starting to dip in. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: as you see the composition of the draft, you realize,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: all right, well it's heavy edge and tackles, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: can those guys push corner backs or linebackers or receivers
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  Speaker 1: down the board to the Patriots. I think those are
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: the big ones they need. Nick and Ohio right soon,
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  Speaker 1: I wonder, like overthought that one. How many in Ohio? Like,
• 1:06:47
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• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: bet you there's more Browns fans, don't you think? Well?
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• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: let's still love the Giants, that's who they've watched. Grown
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: up Breton Lemonster says, did Paul just say the Patriots
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: took a chance on her Nanna's because of various issues
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: and it paid off? I know he didn't mean it
• 1:07:22
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• 1:07:25
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• 1:07:28
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• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: that's that's my point. They were able to take a
• 1:07:32
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• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: I mean like you ended up getting a product. Yeah,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: you ended up getting a productive player. Now obviously no
• 1:07:40
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• 1:07:43
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• 1:07:56
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• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: the three of you. How on earth could you let
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: Eric win the picks contest? How does that make you feel?
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: Beating him in the consolation he didn't win the playoffs?
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: Beating him next year must be a top priority. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: I would like to say that that's the case, but
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: I think I speak for the three of us. There's
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: nobody here willing to do any of the amount of preparation.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: He comes with a binder on every Thursday. He's got
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: it all mapped out, and he still takes too long
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: to make his pick. But yeah, I know this is
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: very important Eric, It's very important. Um. You know he
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: needs affirmation. He is good for him, he thrives on affirmation.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: I will say thanks to Paul. Though we were doing
• 1:08:40
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• 1:08:42
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• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: miraculously made my made my comeback. Ye, so thank you.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: He was doing a little uh peacocking was not was
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: not having it. I was not having it. Yeah, we
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: all pray for Eric. He's not feeling well today. And
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: only piece of time knew that Fred was not part
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: of the order today. And they're like, yeah, every time,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: I'm the only one getting food. This is like friends,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: and we don't have to hurry chicken fingers, screw fat
• 1:09:09
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• 1:09:14
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• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: He's back there and he's monitoring Alex and yeah, because um,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: he's got to get ready because Matt's going away for
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: a week big time. Yeah. I'm excited for him, I
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: really am. I get nervous for him. I don't know.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: I don't want him mess out. Apparently the show wasn't
• 1:09:31
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• 1:09:36
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• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: super Bowl. It was a good back and forth game.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: I could only imagine how hard Fred was rooting against Cincinnati.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: He got that royd um to the Patriots is Bill
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: on an island by himself right now. I don't think
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: I can ever recall the Patriots being this depleted with
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: his coaches I'm twenty five, so I may not be
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: remembering some years for sure, And I am I'm really
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: worried that coaching and play could be worse this upcoming season.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: Could there be issues where people don't want to work
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: for Bill anymore? Not sure if this is the reason,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: but curious as to the panel's thoughts. Ah, it's it's
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: it's not making me feel good. I mean, I just
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: I think if you're a Patriots fan you came out
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: of this season, what do you want going for it?
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: I think you want your quarterback to develop? Do you
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: want to you know, kind of develop the team, put
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: pieces in place to protect him, to let him have success.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: And you know, with Josh leaving, we're in this nether
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: world right now where he's right. You got Bill Belichick,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: you got former defensive and special teams coaches, but you
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: don't really have an offensive guy waiting in the wings,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: even a Billy O type, you know, back before he
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: was Billy Oh. So I get it. I'm I'm and
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: I mean I feel like I'm still I haven't given
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: up hope. I think you know we're early in the offseason.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: There's gonna be stuf happening the next few weeks, I think, so,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: you know, you got to tread water for a little while.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: But I do think, I mean, I just I really
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: think that Bill Belichick wants to leave. When he leaves
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: this team, he wants him to be in good shape.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: And I think part of that has to be, you know,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: leaving some a little bit of coaching infrastructure. Now I
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: know that someone else could come in and wipe that
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: all away. Um, I'm not as convinced about that. I
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: don't think he's Dale Carnegie. I don't. I think he
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: wants to. I think he wants to set a record,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: and I think that's kind of his singular focus and
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: that I mean that's good in a way because even
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: if you want to say that that's a selfish focus,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: he's trying to win games. So that helps you too.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: If he sets the record, it's good for you. Uh.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: And in terms of the question, like were there other
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: seasons where they had this type of brain drain, I
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: think there was. I recall, like I know there was
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: one year they lost Cronell and it's been pretty consistent.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: It's been pretty consistent lately that they're losing multiples. I
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: think after the eighteen season they lost um the defensive
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: daily or uh yeah, they've had they've had seasons. It
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: just feels like it's all on offense right now. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: And I think what makes Graham left that year too? Right? Maybe?
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: Maybe I think Patrick Graham went with with in Chatto Shay.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: They lost four or five guys after the eighteen season
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: who had been good ten years each. Probably, I mean,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: but I think part of it too is just the
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: offense is such the rage right now and you see
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: all these offenses that are so you know, diverse and
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: all that, and you're like, well, is Bill Belichick going
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: to be able to come up with an offense like
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: that on the fly with some of his retreat assistants.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: That's I get it. I get it. Five five past
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: five hundred is the a ticket hut line. Let's go
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  Speaker 1: to uh Pat No, Todd and Greenville? What's up, Todd Man.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: I would not want to be a coach at New
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: England this year. I think it's gonna be a really
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: hard row. I got a bad feeling that it's just
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be too much, and I think we might
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: take a bit big of a step back this year.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: Why do you say that because of the personnel or
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: why do you think who's coaching the offense, who's coaching
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: the defense? All the questions that Paul brought up, and
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: I've read, you know, I read all the questions in
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: the mail bag, and I'm just the coaching in general. Okay,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to be there right now. And it's
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: too much for Bill. That's that's crazy. Okay, seventy year
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: old trying to be everything. Well, like, okay, so we're
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: it's it's February. You know, if by April first those
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: questions are answered, are you going to feel better? Depends
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: who they're answered with. Yeah, okay, but so right now,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: to you, to you the thing that can hold them
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: back as the coaching, that's that's what you're saying. I'm
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: saying it. Well, even at the draft, where are the
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: people for our draft? Right? You need the coaches kind
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: of you need some of their input. Yeah. Yeah, Well
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: it's still early in the off season though, and and
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: uh and there probably will be some news coming later
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: today that will oh oh what do you know, will
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: be some new people doing some new things. Just stay
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: too to Patriots stuff. Okay, little teaser there. Oh, I'm
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: staying on I'm staying on the computer. Then, thank dude, Okay, Todd,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: thanks for looking. What are you saying here, dude? I
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: don't know if I can say okay, if it isn't
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: out there yet, you can't. But there's gonna be news
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: later a little bit and just some maybe a little
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: bit of rejiggering some on a scale of one to ten,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: ten being you just signed Cam Newton, you know, one
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: being you resigned some guy in the practice squad. What
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: what's uh? What would you say? The number is probably
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: a solid three. I'm disappointed, says News. No, it's uh. Now,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: they'll just be some some rejiggering with some roles coming
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: out this afternoon. So I just wanted to give Todd
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of you know, I mean, look, everybody
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: wants to overact right now, but I mean it's like
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: what February fifteenth, Like, you know, you got a month
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: before free agency opens. So I agree, right now it's
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: slim pickings. You got to go into the season like this.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: It would be a little scary. But there's gonna be
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: people coming in and they take their time and check
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: back in in three weeks. Okay, Um, so what is
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: the news? He can't say, oh yeah, Kevin, and Dublin
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  Speaker 1: writes in you heard a lot made about the second
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: year jump that players either make or are expected to
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: make in the NFL. With Mac Jones second season on
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: the horizon, I'm interested in what changes he will make physically.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: His arm strength look quite weak at times this season,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: and I can't help but feel there is room for
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: him to maybe slim down a little bit and increase
• 1:15:28
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• 1:15:31
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• 1:15:33
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• 1:15:36
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• 1:15:40
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• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: looking for Mac to make this summer? So? Just real quick,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: It was just it was just posted on Patriots dot com.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: Matt grow has been named Director of Player Personnel, so
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: mac row has been promoted into the Ziegler role. Yeah,
• 1:15:56
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  Speaker 1: guy with Matt, because Matt do have a little history. Yeah, Now,
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  Speaker 1: what makes you think that Williams might be able to
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  Speaker 1: I mean guys come back months after l but what
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  Speaker 1: either one of those guys won't lasted the second round
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  Speaker 1: you're probably right on Williams, but Williams is the more
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  Speaker 1: talented player, yeah no, yeah, but yeah he's gone. But
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  Speaker 1: That's the one. He's he's the best oh really Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the most talented of the bunch. Yeah, that's what's weird.
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  Speaker 1: another one where it's it's just all over the map.
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  Speaker 1: this way and want to get your opinions on this.
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  Speaker 1: If Brandon Cooks doesn't get knocked out in the first quarter,
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots win that game handily. Frankly, um he was
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  Speaker 1: You probably remember everything about the strip sack. You remember, Paul,
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  Speaker 1: don't forget. But but they were going to go down
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  Speaker 1: at score, that is no doubt on. Yeah, that Cook's
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  Speaker 1: play just drove me absolutely bonkers though, with just trying
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  Speaker 1: But does Danny Amadola, you know, get loose for like,
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• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: let's see, I don't want to go over prospects. It's
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: too early. It's too early to do prospects. What are they?
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: What are they? Yeah? Position? Like I didn't have much
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: of a problem with clock management the other day. You know,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: that's that's my that's my thing. You know that I
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: didn't have a huge problem with clock management. I do
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: think the play calling was the far more significant. Like
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: there's been a lot made of the nine yard game
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: that's set up second in one twenty seconds one off
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: the clock between some like that to me is not outrageous,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: like they could have called a time out whatever. But
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: another words, what I'm saying is I thought they were
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: well in position to a minimum get a game tying
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: field goal. I don't really think they ran out of time.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: They didn't. They failed to get the yards necessary. They
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: got the plays off with plenty of time, but they
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: didn't move. Let's see, who's this jan or Yann with
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: a soft j from Prague, Czech Republic, living in the
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: Netherlands with family in Rhode Island. How's David Crachie doing,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: He says, I would like to ask, especially Paul, what
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: does he think about the Rams decision to snap the
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: ball about three seconds before the two minute warning in
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: the second half the clock was running and both teams
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: had all their timeouts. What I would need to know
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: what like down. It was I remember that I was
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: thinking about that was before? Was that before the defensive
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: holding call? Yes, then it was a good decision, okay,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: because they needed to set themselves up that they could
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: get the ball back if they didn't get in. Yeah, Okay,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: there you go. I mean I would say, I mean again,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: that's just my thought is, yeah, not necessarily looking to
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: end the game with these three plays because if I
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: don't get in, yeah, I want to have time because
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: I think that play happened around midfield right right just
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: before the two minute warning. That was well before the
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: Oh was it that far? I figured they were down
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: in the red zone? No? No, No, then even more
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: so I would say, you gotta hit that. Yeah, you
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: gotta try to score in those situations and if you
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: get down, like let's say you have first and goal
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: from the eight. Now you're looking. I want to make
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: sure I stay in bounds. I want to make sure
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: I keep the clock running unless I have to. But
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: I need to get in. I mean, I need to
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: get in the end zone and score. Okay, I'm glad
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: you let us know. We have no more interaction with
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: the Fonds, Mike, because Fred has left the building. We'll
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: just have to wing it. Uh good good programming. Note.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: Uh you know I will be on my station on
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: Sunday morning for the Football Show with Teddy Johnson again.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to that. Teddy j Re living
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: some Sunday Molorado middle linebacker Glory eight to ten. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: Teddy's a oh you freaking nerds. Yeah. I guess Felgi
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: had a problem with the fourth. I did you have
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: a huge problem with that fourth and one from the
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: forty nine. I think you go for fourth and ones. Yeah,
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: I mean unless you really backed up and they weren't.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: I just think you need your best stuff. You go
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: with the best guys. You gotta execute, you know, you
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: gotta have the place. You gotta know that these these
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: situations are gonna pop up and you're gonna have to
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: be aggressive some of those spots. But so, who would
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: you have said was the best team in football this year?
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: Because I agree with that question that that emailer earlier
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: that said, you know, a month ago, you could have
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: said one of any number of teams. I think there
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: was a case to be made for a lot of teams. Yeah,
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: I mean I think every team that you could say
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: would be a yah butt um, But I mean Tampa,
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I always thought they were good.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: I mean we never got to see really fully healthy,
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: like the defense got decimated right out of the gates
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: and then their offense got decimated down the stretch, you know,
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: and I mean buffalo inconsistencies though, I mean, how do
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: you lose to you know, Jacksonville, Kansas City looked like
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: they were half asleep for three quarters of the year.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: But I think any of those teams could probably you might,
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: I might say them before the Rams, But I also
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: think the Rams are in the conversation because they have
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: at all the pieces, you know, exactly what they were
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: going for. I'm telling you it bothers people. It bothers
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: people that someone that you know. They went out and
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: they made a dream team quote unquote, and it worked
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: and it bugs people. And they spent something like forty
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: eight million dollars on quarterback, which is another tried and
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: true way that you can't succeed if you if your
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: quarterback cap number is over you know, twelve percent of
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: the cap and there's was like twenty five percent of
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: the cap for God's sakes. Yeah, and the people don't
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: like and correct me if I'm wrong, but they've had
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: pretty good success without the first round picks as far
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: as the draft. Yeah, So that's the whole thing is
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: people fixate the fact that they haven't made a first
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: round picking like three years or four years, and they're
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: ignoring the fact that, you know, guys like Cooper cup
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: or draft picks. Yeah, you know, there's there's a lot
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: of draft picks that have really succeeded for that team. Yeah,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: Tyler Hickby is a draft pick. Yep. Yeah, that's and
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: that's the area that you know, and I don't mean
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: this as well, we'll see, but seeing what the Patriots,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: what happened to the Patriots because they didn't have high
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: level draft success and I think that they had you know,
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: over the last five years, they had not enough, but
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: they had some of those Day two and three guys hit.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: But you know, where are the rams two three years.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: Are they still able to acquire that high end talent?
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: Do they have that highend talent which the Patriots don't
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: have really right now? And I think that's a big
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: reason why they're kind of stuck in the middle at
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: the moment. And you're talking about we need to get
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: those high end guys. They certainly have them this year
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: with Donald and OBJ. But what I think they'll continue
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: to do is when these guys cycle through, you know,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: because they're probably not going to give another contract to
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: guys like Jalen Ramsey and the like, but they'll have
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: in their minds they'll either be able to go out
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: and acquire that version again because obviously they've expressed no
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: reticence to give up first round picks and take established players.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: And now I think the president is set. I think
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: it's looking more and more in that league, like you
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: can acquire talent from other teams, whether their free agents
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: or not. It just seems like there's more trades involving
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: high profile players than you ever saw before. And when
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: you look at the Patriots, like, I mean, how many
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: of that twenty fifteen to twenty sixteen first round picks
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: are even on the team or even contributing now? So
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: the Rams traded them away the Patriots they used them.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the Rams did a pretty good job in
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: the middle rounds in like nineteen twenty, you know, those drafts,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: and that's why that they've had some success. I just
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: got the release from Matt Morrell. The official release, Matt
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: Grove named Director of player Personnel. So native of hing A,
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: mass Yeah, by the way, local kid. I got to
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: talk to him last year when we did a season
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: ticket holder, a little access thing, so I got to
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: interview him a little bit, which was a little bit
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: strange for me to jump in and be like, so
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: tell me why you know, tell me what you love
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: about these dropticks. But no, it seemed like a nice guy.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: Maybe we get to do that again, that'd be cool.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: Tom Greenville said I almost caused a car accident. He says,
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: I was driving back from dropping off my wife at
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: work and Fred starts yakking about it's only six inches
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: and it's not worth being taking it out. That's what
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: she said. I hope Matt was listening and can get
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: that dropped. So that was good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Frenett
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: is always listening. That is true, much more so than
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: Paul Ben's in Pittsfield on the A ticket hut line.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: Hey Ben over, Hey guys, how you doing good? So
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: just just a two questions. Um, So, I know James
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: White got injured this season. Do you think him coming back,
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: if he comes back, will make a big difference. And
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: also in terms of getting that star wide receiver. Would
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: you like to see someone or two people from the
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: draft or do you want to see the Patriots see
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: some of that calf space pick up a free agent.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: I'm someone that's already established themselves in the lake. All right,
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: thanks guys, Okay, thanks Ben. I'd like to see a
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: Day two draft pick. Sure, I've second a third rounder.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: I think we're talking about on offense that are going
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: to be with Mac. The longer the better. I'd much
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: prefer to have a draft pick where it's four years
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: affordable development, you get a blank slate with them. That's
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: more preferable to me. And I mean, everybody's going to
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: bring up wide receivers like they always do, and I'm
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: gonna be guilty of it too. But I think when
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: you really look at it, how much of a really
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: critical need is it right now for twenty twenty two
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: for them to get a wide receiver, don't I don't know,
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I certainly to take a
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: next step, they need somebody new. But I think that
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: there's other areas that really if you just look at
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: the depth chart and say who's coming back, and who
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: isn't and who's thirty four years old, and who's you
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: know in their early twenties that you know. I don't.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: I don't see the big spending spree on free agency,
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: and I don't see the SI. But I do think
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: wide receiver is a significant need and I would like
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: to get it sooner than later, because I agree with
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: Mike in twenty twenty two, it's probably not going to
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: put you over the top, but the faster I can
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: get a quality receiver with Mac Jones, the better. Yeah.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: So let's just say Mac makes the progression that everybody
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: hopes that he does. And some up said, he you
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: already made. Um, he says, don't you in in twenty three?
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: You want him to have a guy that he's already
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: comfortable with. You don't want to then go out and
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: be looking for a guy who would fit with receiver
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: in the system. Yeah, And I think that him develop
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: It goes back a little bit to to previous points,
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: But I mean, I think that's what you learned from
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: Brady of of you got to keep trying to get
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: those guys, those you know, game changing kind of offensive pieces,
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: whether it's tight end, whether it's wide receiver. I just
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: I don't think you can take drafts off really. Um,
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: I just I know people are gonna pound it like
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: it's the number one need that you got to go
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: just get that number one receiver. And I agree with
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: the way Paul did it. And I think that there's
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: guys you can get in the second round. They aren't gonna,
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: you know, because if you're not in the top ten,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: it's hard to get like the guy you're gonna have
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: to make a trade off, probably someone I agree with Mike. Now,
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: what about James White? Yeah, White, now I have to check.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, definitely, but he was a rookie and fourteen,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: so I mean he's eight years in. I mean he's
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: he's definitely third thirties. Um, I just I don't know
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: what else there is. And there's always been such thirty
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: right now, he's thirty, just turned thirty. There's always been
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: a plan for that position, in that role, and there
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: really isn't one. And we never saw anything really from J. J. Taylor.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: I'd bring him back, I would. I mean, how he
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: can't be expensive. He got hurt this last year. He
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: was looking good, he was you know, it looks like
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: connections yeah, he did. So Mac needs that guy. He
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: needs you know, even you know Dante said he needs
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: his bankie. Um. Now, I'm not sure if James White can't,
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: but he can certainly be an outlet for Mac reliable,
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: you know target. I wouldn't mind moving on, to be
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: honest with you, I don't know. I mean, it's a
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: serious injury. He's thirty again. I'd like to have some
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: guys that I think can be part of his development
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: moving forward. Yeah. Yeah, I squeezed another year out of him.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: Is he better than Brandon Bolden? Yep? I think Bolden
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: had a terrific year. I think James White would have
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: been better. I think you would have probably maximized more
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: of those opportunities. So I'm not suggesting that he's not
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: better than what you had, But I just wonder how
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: many more years you're gonna get out of James. I
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: think that's that's all fair. I'd also put the leadership
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: element into it, of a veteran, what guys you're gonna
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: lose this year? You're gonna lose Slater, mccordy, High Tower.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: You know. If that's the case, I think there's also
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: something to be said for just his presence and the
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: way that guys in the running back room, you know,
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: talk about him. They love that guy. So I would
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: I would take him back. But I think Paul makes
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: valid points, and I think it's on them for not
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: drafting a guy in the last couple of years in
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: developing him to replace this role Fred and Wales right soon.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: Which was the more stacked team last season Bucks or
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: this year's Rams? The last season Bucks, I would say,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: because I like Tom Brady better than Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: I think I think at six one a half dozen
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: the other in the Ram zone though the Bucks. So
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: also has Paul changed his mind on the Bengals after
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: their playoff run. When asked which team would he most
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: like the Patriots to face of the playoffs, he said
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati would be the easiest with their youth and inexperience. Yep,
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: my answer would still be that because he's nothing but stubborn. Well,
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: there's no question, there's no question that that's true. You're
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: not picking Buffalo again. The only thing I couldn't argue
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: is someone asked, someone tells me that I'm stubborn. I
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: can't argue that. But I feel like Buffalo in Kansas
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: City are both better. Listen, Cincinnati beat Kansas City and nothing.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: No one can ever take that away from him. Yep,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: But I think the twenty one three first half was
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: more indicative of the difference between those teams than what
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: happened after that. M Paul writes in from the Colony,
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: it's in New York. I'm in the middle of reading
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: The Dynasty now, and as an out of towner, I
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: was not aware of how strongly the local media voiced
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: their negative opinions of both Kraft and Belichick prior to
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: the two thousand and one season. Paul and Fred were
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: those writers held accountable in the subsequent years. And Paul,
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: what was your opinion as a knowledgeable fan at the time.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not really sure. I understand. Well at the time
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: when they hired Belichick, Yeah, it was, it was. It
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: was criticized. Yeah, the decision to bring in Belichick was criticized. Yes,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: you were on that show that night with talk Ted
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: Saranders and run off the right topin Yeah. I mean
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: you talk about the opening game of that season too,
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: against since I mean they hadn't won a home game
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: in like five six years when they beat the Patriots,
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: I mean it was off to a bad start. And
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: that was something from the Sound Odyssey that Reese said
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: that was like, you know, there was I think real
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: question about Bill Belichick going into that Week two game
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: against the Jets. I mean, I don't it's amazing. And
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: then what happened then? Uh nine eleven m um someone,
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: I think, but with with with Richard Seymour making the
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, uh Ron Borges's famous day after analysis
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: of that pick, even I even I feel that for
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: ron Board just now, with the amount of times that
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: thing gets dug up. I mean everybody's got those and
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: you know, nobody knows anything. We all talk about the draft.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's gonna be a thousand things that I
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: say this spring about the draft that's probably gonna be
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent wrong. So I don't know. I've come
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: around on ron Board just I know it's such an
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: easy one like the David Terrell and it's easy. But
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: oh I was all in on that. That's my famous
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: I resign. It was Richard Seymour because I wanted a
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: wide receiver and I thought that they had a chance
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: to get either him or Corn Robinson because Drew was
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: the quarterback, right, Had I known that? Yeah, I mean obviously,
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: if I had known Seymour was gonna be anything like
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: what he was, I wouldn't have been so stubborn, right,
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: So if you knew he was going to be a
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, you would have been okay with it. No,
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: if I knew he was going to be an impact play, yeah,
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: like you look at his college resume and did not
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: scream impact player at did instant too? When did you
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: guys notice him in training camp? Was it? Obviously? I
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: was with Barmore, I'll tell you we I think we
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: had him on the radio show Freddy Um up at
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: the old Patriots Club and just to kind of see him.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: He wasn't built like a regular defensive lineman, like he
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: was much more lean. Yeah, Like I was like, this
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: guy's more athletic than I thought. Like I was thinking,
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: he doesn't rush the passer. He's a fatty, you know,
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: like we took it. We took a fatty with the
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: sixth overall pick. I mean, what are we doing? But
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: he was obviously built different. He was built different. As
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: the kids saying, yeah, it's just built different, right, teas
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: I used that properly he's got a check with his
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: resident millennium diffy. Oh sorry, diffy um. I don't think
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: my kids used diffy robbing the Cats skills Right York,
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: Please please do nothing draft a wide receiver. Why? Because
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: the Patriots do not know how to identify or develop
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: a receiver in the draft. I've been watching for the
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: last twenty years and they can't do it. Also, this
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: draft sets up perfectly for the Patriots needs cornerback and
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: offensive tackle. Also, I really like Shavarius Ward as a
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: free agent. Love the shows. He's safety corner for Kansas Horner.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: All right, I think of the other Ward, Are you
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: gonna have to do something a corner if if Jac walks?
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: I mean that's I'm surprised that there isn't more kind
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: of handwringing about JC right now and they I think
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: everybody thinks she's going to be back. Yeah. I think
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: everybody thinks if they can't resign him, they'll just tag him.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's that simple. I don't either. I
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: think think you for your service and good luck. Yeah,
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: rage and Saint Louis. I was thinking about this defense rebuild,
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: and I keep going back and forth on the JC
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: Jackson decision. On one hand, he hasn't shown the ability
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: to shut down elite receivers like Diggs, Lamb, etc. But
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: on the other hand, he is by far the best
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: option in the free agent market, and the best corners
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: in the draft will be gone by pick twenty one.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: So I always come down to three questions. One, what
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: will oh boy, I didn't even eat and I got
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: a little coming home. What will be the demand on
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: the open market for J. C. Jackson? Very high? Second question,
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: how many true lockdown corners are there in the NFL.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: I can only count four Ramsey, Alexander, Trey White and
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: a healthy Gilmour. JC is firmly. JAC is firmly in
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: that next tier of guys with Humphrey, Howard, Diggs, etc.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: And if we keep holding out for one of those
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: top tier guys, then we'll keep searching for years and three.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: With the increased proliferation of passing in the league, is
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: it better to have higher variants players? If you take
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: modern baseball as an example for defensive building, either you
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: strike out, give up big yards on a big play,
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: or hit a home run get a turnover each plate appearance.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: Each plate appearance, I prefer a lockdown guy. But maybe
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: with analytics and all that, these all or nothing players
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: will become common. Whose are they all or nothing players?
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: For Von Diggs? That's it, That's what he mentions. But
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, So I don't think that's a trend.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: I just I was thinking about it a little bit.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: I think everyone now assumes that they're looking for man guys,
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: and I just wonder if maybe they shift and they
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: put less priority and guys who can play man coverage
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: and travel and just play get draft, really tough, good
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: tackling corners that can play off and his zone, and
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: you know, those are the kind of guys to maybe
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: deal with, you know, Josh Allen Patrick mahons, guys that
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: can run like I do agree with him. Like, if
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: you're if you're you know, hell bent on like a
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: true lockdown, shutdown corner, you're gonna be waiting there. You
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: either got a high picker or spend bunch of money.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: But especially if you don't think like I don't love Jackson,
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: but I like him and I do think he's that
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: kind of player. So if you don't even put Jackson
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: in that category, then there are even fewer and few
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: like because like, to me, Zavy and Howard would be
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: in that category. He didn't have him in there, right,
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: He had him in the next year with Jackson. Right,
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: So if that's what you think, then yeah, you probably
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: should try to hold on to him. Yeah, I mean
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's like you keep I keep going
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: back to that. It's like, if not him, who you
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: know and a couple of them. Now go back the
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: previous emailer that had Ward from Kansas City, you know,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: and it doesn't have to be him individually, but a
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: serviceable starter is that worth it for like a Jalen
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: Mills contract as opposed to giving him twenty million a
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: year to Jackson. So that's the you know, those are
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: the kinds of things that they way back and forth. Now, personally,
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: I'll take the talent. If I thought Jackson was better,
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: I want Jackson. But it doesn't always work that way
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: with the way they do things. Sometimes it's value and
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: how they can fit the structure in and all that stuff.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: Claire writes in Hello everyone, Hello Marine. Hello. Apologies for
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: the self indulgence, But when I emailed in last week
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: requesting the tight End coaching job, should Nick Kayley move
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: to the OC if why. I like Kayley, big fan
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: of his work, but not especially interested in his tight end.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: I was beyond amused at Deuce's quiet despair in me,
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: and even more Eric and Paul's tones of it's just
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: so obvious she likes tight ends. I love you guys
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: so much. Okay, so my question, the mass offensive exodus
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: to Vegas has me concerned? Should I be? Or is
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: this just a regular situation and you guys aren't worried?
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: I think you should be. Yeah, the mass exodus? Yeah,
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: how's it going to translate to mac I didn't. I
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: mean again, I think that's the piece that have You're
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: moving forward the Patriots. You want him to be the
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: guy and to build around him, to have a plan.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: And you know, right now, as we sit on February fifteenth,
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: this doesn't really seem like there's you know, you're not
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: building the next great offense here here yet. So but
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: moves to come. Moves to come, I hope, I hope
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: if it's if it's something more non offensive specific and
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: just another coach comes back that maybe isn't that much
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: of an expert on the offensive side of the ball,
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be concerned. James Pettigrew, the most interesting
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: Patriots fan of the world, says, uh, you know about
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: paying players. He says, whoever you overpay today will be
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: underpaid tomorrow. That's largely true too, which is why if
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: I felt like Jackson was better, I would go with him,
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: because I got yere three or four right, Like, you know,
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: like I agree with that knows the cap going. I
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: agree with that notion. At some point you got to
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: pay for the talent. And he's right, like, when you
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: sign these big deals, they don't look quite as as
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: owner to two three years in sometimes yeah, as long
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: as they hit, as long as they're good, as long
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: as you're investing big money and players who play well, right,
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: that's the key homes Like at the time, people are like,
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: oh my god, nobody's gonna care as long as he
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: continues to play the way he's played so far. Yeah,
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: just to play the other side of the street. Though,
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: There's there's another part of this, which is just like
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: this is one of the rare players that you developed
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: and found and can play at a high level here,
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: Like it just seems like too many of those guys
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: have come and gone and gotten paid elsewhere. You know,
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: Joe Tuoney is the most recent example, but you've got
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: one in house. He likes being here. Figure it out.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: I see that. That's apples to apples. Yeah, undrafted cornerback right,
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: they both got big money deals. You know. Let's see
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: if the Patriots give it to Jackson. All right, that's
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: gonna be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 1: be back Thursday. Um, who knows, maybe another big number
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: three on the Richter scale announcement. Maybe Eric will be back, yes, possibly,
• 1:59:03
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