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- 0:07Speaker 1: Hey, we're back John Lecke here on Am eight hundred CKLW.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Hope you're all doing well. It is ten forty seven
- 0:14Speaker 1: news out of Toronto right now Queens Park. The province
- 0:17Speaker 1: is moving to restrict new bike lanes in municipalities. This
- 0:22Speaker 1: is a rather big deal, to be perfectly honest. What
- 0:25Speaker 1: we're looking at right now is new red tape that's
- 0:27Speaker 1: being added by the province. Municipalities would be directed to
- 0:32Speaker 1: demonstrate that the proposed bike lanes won't have a negative
- 0:36Speaker 1: impact on vehicle traffic, says the government. Training me right
- 0:41Speaker 1: now to discuss this is Ward nine councilor Kieran McKenzie. Hey, Kieren,
- 0:47Speaker 1: how you doing.
- 0:48Speaker 2: I'm doing great, John. How about yourself?
- 0:50Speaker 1: Doing really well? Thank you? How are you feeling about
- 0:53Speaker 1: this usurping of your authorities that you have as an
- 0:56Speaker 1: elected official here in the city from what the province
- 0:59Speaker 1: is putting truly learning again that municipalities are just creatures
- 1:03Speaker 1: of the province.
- 1:05Speaker 2: Absolutely atrocious, atrocious piece of legislation. Another atrocious piece of
- 1:09Speaker 2: legislation that's being brought forward by the province. I won't
- 1:13Speaker 2: be surprised when the day comes when they're looking to
- 1:15Speaker 2: tweak it. After they passed this, they often move forward
- 1:19Speaker 2: with legislation and half based ideas, push something through the
- 1:24Speaker 2: legislature because it sounds good on paper, you know, at
- 1:28Speaker 2: some kind of discussion that they might have had in
- 1:32Speaker 2: an informal setting, and then they realized that they made
- 1:34Speaker 2: a big mistake and they have to go back and
- 1:36Speaker 2: fix it. And I think that that's what's going to
- 1:37Speaker 2: happen with this. It's an overreach and it's frankly, it's
- 1:42Speaker 2: an as you point out, it's a usurpation of municipal
- 1:46Speaker 2: authority in an area that the municipalities should have pretty much,
- 1:52Speaker 2: in my views, full autonomy.
- 1:54Speaker 1: This doesn't sound like an issue that Windsor is dealing
- 1:57Speaker 1: with right now. Honestly, I try to think of a
- 1:59Speaker 1: city that might be dealing with this other than Toronto,
- 2:01Speaker 1: and I'm going to have I have a hard time
- 2:03Speaker 1: putting anything on that list.
- 2:05Speaker 2: Well, look, I don't care about Toronto to be to
- 2:08Speaker 2: be brutally honest, But what I care about is what
- 2:11Speaker 2: I know is happening in our community. Is it's a
- 2:15Speaker 2: it's a battle. It's a battle every single day for
- 2:18Speaker 2: anyone that wants to recognize is that we need to
- 2:22Speaker 2: improve the transportation network in our community, and particularly the
- 2:26Speaker 2: active transportation network. Now, as you point out, the province,
- 2:30Speaker 2: because of some half baked ideas, has put more red
- 2:33Speaker 2: tape in front of us and made it even harder
- 2:36Speaker 2: than it already is for us to move forward with
- 2:39Speaker 2: completing the just what we've what we've already agreed should
- 2:44Speaker 2: be our active transportation network, but also moving forward, you know,
- 2:48Speaker 2: how we can improve upon what we've already what we've
- 2:50Speaker 2: already planned to do.
- 2:52Speaker 1: It seems like this could be a potential like a
- 2:55Speaker 1: huge waste of money that we, like we've already spent
- 2:58Speaker 1: here if we get refute used for our current active
- 3:02Speaker 1: master active transport plan, what happens with all the hours
- 3:08Speaker 1: that have been spent by administration putting it together.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so it's it is a huge waste of time,
- 3:13Speaker 2: money and resources both in Queen's Park. It's a waste
- 3:17Speaker 2: of everybody's time. It's a waste of everybody's time in
- 3:21Speaker 2: the City of Winter who now have to go back
- 3:23Speaker 2: and review the extent to which they need provincial approvals
- 3:26Speaker 2: to do those things, and then doing all of that
- 3:29Speaker 2: work is an additional allownt waste of time, so you
- 3:32Speaker 2: talk about, you know, this is the government that oftentimes
- 3:35Speaker 2: likes to talk about the idea of reducing read tapes,
- 3:38Speaker 2: reminding protests and all of that. And it just because
- 3:41Speaker 2: it looks to me like the Premiere is a little
- 3:43Speaker 2: bit upset with the way, with the fact that this
- 3:45Speaker 2: commute back and forth to work from a Tobacota Queen's
- 3:48Speaker 2: Park isn't isn't or isn't quick in our form that
- 3:52Speaker 2: he's continuing some of the work that he did while
- 3:54Speaker 2: he was on council in terms of actively advocating against
- 3:58Speaker 2: active transportation. And again, this is counselor forward doing things
- 4:03Speaker 2: that you know, you know, fulfilling his wish list as
- 4:07Speaker 2: the premier. It's it's it's I think it's just misguided.
- 4:11Speaker 2: And hopefully I'm not optimistic about what he may or
- 4:15Speaker 2: may choose it may or may not choose to do.
- 4:17Speaker 2: But hopefully they'll think better of this as time goes forward,
- 4:20Speaker 2: or perhaps the opposition can cannot some sense into him
- 4:23Speaker 2: one way or another. But this is this is just
- 4:25Speaker 2: a bad move all the way around.
- 4:27Speaker 1: I guess we really lucked out by getting those new
- 4:30Speaker 1: bike lanes put in on Victoria Downtown as well as
- 4:34Speaker 1: Polisher when we did, because had we not acted when
- 4:37Speaker 1: we did, it seems like that process could have been
- 4:39Speaker 1: delayed who knows months to years potentially.
- 4:42Speaker 2: Now, yeah, we'll see how, we'll see how, you know,
- 4:46Speaker 2: quickly this is able to make its way through the
- 4:49Speaker 2: legislative process. But but yeah, I mean again, as you're
- 4:53Speaker 2: pointing out, every recycling project or active transportation infrastructure project
- 4:57Speaker 2: that's on the table now needs to be real view,
- 5:00Speaker 2: there's time and money associated with with that, with that process.
- 5:04Speaker 2: So already the premieu is costing people money for no
- 5:07Speaker 2: good reason. This is a ridiculous, ridiculous policy proposal.
- 5:12Speaker 1: You know, you find yourself in a really interesting place
- 5:14Speaker 1: here in straddling both, you know, an urban ward but
- 5:17Speaker 1: also a suburban ward. And I wonder how you're able
- 5:22Speaker 1: to do that still receiving you know, the electoral votes
- 5:25Speaker 1: that you do. You're you're still elected. It seems like
- 5:28Speaker 1: there is a path that could be charted that takes
- 5:31Speaker 1: into account both the needs, well the needs of all
- 5:34Speaker 1: road users rather than picking and choosing one over the other.
- 5:38Speaker 1: You seem to be able to navigate that pretty well.
- 5:40Speaker 2: That's a really good point, John, That so the idea
- 5:43Speaker 2: that you're just gonna, you know, take away capacity for
- 5:48Speaker 2: other modalities, or just look at the look at the
- 5:52Speaker 2: public right away through the lens of just like one
- 5:55Speaker 2: type of user, and that by addressing just those folks,
- 5:59Speaker 2: that you're going to make things better for everybody. You're not.
- 6:02Speaker 2: You're just not. If you really want to address congestion,
- 6:06Speaker 2: you should be doubling down on active transportation, should be
- 6:09Speaker 2: doubling down and supporting municipalities being able to improve their
- 6:12Speaker 2: transit systems. What causes congestion is too many single passenger
- 6:19Speaker 2: or private vehicles on the road. That causes congestion. And
- 6:23Speaker 2: I understand why people make those choices because, at least
- 6:26Speaker 2: in our community, the tuble transit system is subpard and
- 6:29Speaker 2: the active transportation network is also sub part, so they
- 6:32Speaker 2: make the choice to get in their cars. So reducing
- 6:36Speaker 2: our capacities to be able to add active transportation infrastructure
- 6:39Speaker 2: actions in marketing in will have the opposite effect of
- 6:43Speaker 2: what's being intended, which is why this policy is so misguided.
- 6:46Speaker 2: It doesn't solve the problem you're trying to solve, you know.
- 6:50Speaker 1: And the other problem, of course, we're talking about safety
- 6:52Speaker 1: on the roads, and if we're not going to be
- 6:55Speaker 1: looking at having dedicated by lanes and dedicated active transportation
- 7:00Speaker 1: and lanes. And again we're not talking about protected ones
- 7:02Speaker 1: even at this point, just dedicated ones. Taking away lanes
- 7:04Speaker 1: from it. It's not taking these people off of the road.
- 7:08Speaker 1: These these users still have to use the road. They
- 7:11Speaker 1: can't use sidewalks, although many do illegally, but bikes and
- 7:16Speaker 1: e bikes and scooters and the like will all still
- 7:18Speaker 1: be on our roads.
- 7:20Speaker 2: There's a public safety question to it as well. John,
- 7:22Speaker 2: So you're you know, kinds of great points and just
- 7:24Speaker 2: to and just to go back to your previous question,
- 7:27Speaker 2: and sorry that I started that a bit. Folks in
- 7:30Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't matter where you live, especially if
- 7:33Speaker 2: it's you know, suburban urban. There's folks in my ward,
- 7:37Speaker 2: whether they live in the more congested areas or if
- 7:42Speaker 2: they're a little further out, they right to bikes. And
- 7:45Speaker 2: in fact, we've just had some we just had some
- 7:47Speaker 2: very challenging debates with respect to lane use and planning
- 7:52Speaker 2: that raised the issue of the lack of active transportation
- 7:56Speaker 2: infrastructure as being a reason to not proceed with one
- 7:59Speaker 2: of the Premier's favorite hobby horses development. So you know,
- 8:04Speaker 2: not only worsening the traffic congestion problem that you're pretending
- 8:07Speaker 2: to solve, but at the same time, you're making it
- 8:10Speaker 2: harder to develop land in the middle of a housing
- 8:12Speaker 2: crisis because you don't have appropriate infrastructure in place to
- 8:15Speaker 2: support those developments in the places that they need to go.
- 8:19Speaker 1: Last question for you, because, as you said a lot
- 8:21Speaker 1: of times, the Premiere, this government likes to put out
- 8:24Speaker 1: something flashy and then try to fix it or massage
- 8:27Speaker 1: it a bit later on to make it actually work.
- 8:30Speaker 1: It seems like this is obviously a wedge, obviously, but
- 8:33Speaker 1: one that is designed for an upcoming election. At the
- 8:35Speaker 1: same time that we're hearing that they're going to strip
- 8:37Speaker 1: away this ability from cities to go and install bike
- 8:40Speaker 1: lanes on their own, the Premier is also saying, or
- 8:43Speaker 1: the Transportation minister, excuse me, I'll be clear, speed limits
- 8:47Speaker 1: on all four hundred series highways are going to increase
- 8:49Speaker 1: to one hundred and ten kilometers an hour, But as well,
- 8:52Speaker 1: the government is developing a new standard to allow vehicles
- 8:55Speaker 1: to travel at speeds higher than one hundred and twenty
- 8:58Speaker 1: kilometers an hour on new highways. It really seems like
- 9:02Speaker 1: this is a fight that's being set up between the
- 9:05Speaker 1: city at the core and the suburbs, between cars and cyclists.
- 9:10Speaker 1: What do you think about that, Well.
- 9:12Speaker 2: Look, there's going to be I would hope a significant
- 9:17Speaker 2: amount of research that's undertaken as that those things are
- 9:21Speaker 2: being considered. But like, as far as you know this government,
- 9:25Speaker 2: you know, it's just less than a month ago that
- 9:27Speaker 2: we heard the asinine idea floated that there might be
- 9:30Speaker 2: a tunnel that would be constructed along the entire length
- 9:33Speaker 2: of along for across the parallel tho for one in
- 9:38Speaker 2: the in the GTA, without any without any costing, without
- 9:42Speaker 2: any without any forethought, just uh, just a statement of like, oh,
- 9:46Speaker 2: we think this is going to be this is a
- 9:47Speaker 2: good idea because again, people can't get from one place
- 9:50Speaker 2: because of the vehicular traffic congestion that's being created. I
- 9:54Speaker 2: don't have a lot of faith in this government's ability
- 9:56Speaker 2: to come up with a coherent, cohesive, the logical transportation
- 10:01Speaker 2: plan for the Province of Ontario. That this proposal is
- 10:05Speaker 2: another perfect example of the Premier cominustry or they have
- 10:09Speaker 2: this government demonstrating a fundamental lack of understanding of the
- 10:12Speaker 2: issues and coming forward with something that is unresearched. Perhaps
- 10:17Speaker 2: sounds good and a sound like, but I think is
- 10:20Speaker 2: potentially disastrous for communities across Ontario and it's certainly not
- 10:24Speaker 2: going to be good for the winsor
- 10:25Speaker 1: Well, just putting aside the whole issue of a bike lane,
- 10:28Speaker 1: I don't like the stripping away of autonomy from our
- 10:30Speaker 1: elected rep