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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 185 | Jaguars Hot Takes & Top Takeaways After Win Over Raiders · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to jag zamkayd Downie Stevens he or Brian Sexton
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  Speaker 1: John Osier with us this morning. After a trip out
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  Speaker 1: west to Las Vegas and an eventful game that went
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  Speaker 1: into overtime, Jaggs walked away with a win. Let's go
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  Speaker 1: Big think Number one is lucky Cats, because Brian, that
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  Speaker 1: first half was not good football and there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of mistakes made, but some way, somehow did team walked
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  Speaker 1: away with a win out of overtime.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'd rather be lucky than good, but in this case,
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  Speaker 2: I think they were pretty good when they needed to be.
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  Speaker 1: Kai.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the eighteen yard pass from Trevor Lawrence to
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  Speaker 2: Parker Washington at the end of the half that set
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  Speaker 2: up the record field goal was beautiful and it was
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  Speaker 2: at a moment in the game where normally you're just
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  Speaker 2: trying to find a way and I thought it was
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  Speaker 2: a great It was very heads up of Parker to
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  Speaker 2: put the ball down.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Then they went under score on their next six possessions,
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  Speaker 2: and that doesn't happen very often. It certainly hasn't happened
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  Speaker 2: often in Jaguars history. So they were lucky at the
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  Speaker 2: end when Devon Hamilton saved the safety who should have
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  Speaker 2: been deep and protecting against Tyler Lockett. But John I
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  Speaker 2: tend to think that they were good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a lot of times in the NFL,
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna have on a normal season six seven games
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  Speaker 3: to come down to the wire, you have to put
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  Speaker 3: you you have to play well enough to put yourself
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  Speaker 3: in a position to get breaks at the end. And
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  Speaker 3: then in the NFL a lot of things, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it can go either way. Considering that they did exactly
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  Speaker 3: what they didn't want to do early, which to make
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  Speaker 3: a lot of mistakes and play like the old way
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  Speaker 3: last couple of weeks. To come out and play that
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  Speaker 3: well through the second half, I thought it was a
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  Speaker 3: gutty impressive NFL win. Considering how beat up they were.
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  Speaker 3: It felt like the end of Rocky right with both
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  Speaker 3: teams were just which one and all of them and
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  Speaker 3: then one of them had to get up and the
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  Speaker 3: Jags got up.
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  Speaker 2: Credit to him, and you do you have to win
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  Speaker 2: games like this over the course of n NFL season
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  Speaker 2: the best teams, the Chiefs and the Bills and the
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  Speaker 2: Eagles and the Ravens. You know, go back and look
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  Speaker 2: the last couple of years, they all win games like
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  Speaker 2: this where people may question, well it's just a one
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  Speaker 2: point game and you should have beaten them. But that's
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  Speaker 2: the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: Finding a way. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Second big thing today is going to be sick day
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  Speaker 1: because I'm sure Trevor Lawrence would have appreciated this sick day.
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  Speaker 1: He was sick all weekend, still found a way to
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  Speaker 1: play the game. On Sunday, weim call and talked a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about his performance.
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  Speaker 5: It was awesome. I mean, I'm really proud of Trevor. Obviously,
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  Speaker 5: he was little. He was thrown up all night, all morning,
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  Speaker 5: you know, as pale as a ghost throughout the whole game,
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  Speaker 5: and obviously started a little bit obviously the frustrating interception
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  Speaker 5: down on the goal line. But man, I was I'm
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  Speaker 5: very proud of the way he responded, the way that
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  Speaker 5: he played, especially later on when the game really was
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  Speaker 5: on the line, critical third down conversions, had the draw
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  Speaker 5: that he walks in on. I mean, he competed his
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  Speaker 5: tail off. Very proud of him.
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  Speaker 1: John Trevor Lawrence was sick. I think Jordan Lewis went
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  Speaker 1: out on the first or second play of the game.
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  Speaker 1: They played through a lot, they had like one tight
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  Speaker 1: end at one point they battled through well.
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  Speaker 6: I laugh.
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  Speaker 3: I got an email from readers so well Trevor did
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  Speaker 3: look sick because he looked sick.
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  Speaker 1: He was sick.
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  Speaker 4: Like if Brian walked in looking like that, I say, man,
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  Speaker 4: go home, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: He?
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  Speaker 4: I tell Brian go home.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, But.
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  Speaker 3: It was impressive again two or three times this season.
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  Speaker 3: Most teams you're going to get in a situation in
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  Speaker 3: the second half where all of a sudden, you look
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  Speaker 3: around and you're down at a position or two. And
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  Speaker 3: I thought the receivers Austin Trammell, Tim Jones, these guys
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  Speaker 3: weren't even on the active roster on Monday, and without.
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  Speaker 4: Their two plays, I don't know that you win the game.
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  Speaker 3: So in the NFL, after covering this league forever, you
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  Speaker 3: sort of roll your eyes a little bit when you
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  Speaker 3: hear next man up, and you okay, next man up,
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  Speaker 3: this is going to be fun.
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  Speaker 4: On Sunday. That was the story.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I, like most people, just put my head
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  Speaker 2: in my hands when he threw that interception. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's just like, oh boy, here we go. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: not sure that what we witness was necessarily a Willis
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  Speaker 2: Reid moment for all of those who are old enough
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  Speaker 2: to remember the great Knicks moment when Willis Reid came
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  Speaker 2: back onto the court. But I think in the locker room,
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  Speaker 2: John and Kay, it might be seen as that because
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  Speaker 2: you're talking about a guy that was throwing up on
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  Speaker 2: Saturday night at the hotel, and on Sunday morning he
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  Speaker 2: was sick, and his teammates saw their leader, the quarterback
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  Speaker 2: who had made a critical mistake at the end of
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  Speaker 2: a seventeen play, ten minute and twenty seven second drive,
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  Speaker 2: pick himself up. As hard as that is when you're sick,
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  Speaker 2: We've all been there. And then to play as well
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  Speaker 2: as he did in the second half, it was huge.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was as big to me as getting
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  Speaker 2: up off the ground and scoring again Kansas City on
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  Speaker 2: Monday Night football. I think that his teammates will see
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  Speaker 2: him in a renewed light as a guy that they
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  Speaker 2: depend on.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's fair.
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  Speaker 1: You get credit for playing sick, but also playing well
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  Speaker 1: even so and helping the team get a win. Our
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  Speaker 1: final big thing is going to be record breakers. There
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  Speaker 1: were two of them. Josh heinz Allen finally getting to
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  Speaker 1: that franchise mark. He's tied right now and needs another
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  Speaker 1: half sack or sack to.
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  Speaker 4: Go above it.
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  Speaker 1: But also Cam Little, he saw him take that seventy
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  Speaker 1: yarder in the preseason. Now he has the official record
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  Speaker 1: with the sixty eight yard field goal.
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  Speaker 7: Like you're looking at it and I'm like, crap, this
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  Speaker 7: is sixty eight yarder. And so yeah, you look at
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  Speaker 7: it and it's like, you know, kick it straight enough,
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  Speaker 7: kick it long enough, and it goes in. And it's simple,
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  Speaker 7: simply put. We're playing indoors and we're on natural grass.
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  Speaker 7: You kick it long enough and you kick it straight enough,
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  Speaker 7: it's going to go in. And so Logan, me and
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  Speaker 7: Logan kind of had like a one on one right
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  Speaker 7: before the kick, and I said, it's ball as hard
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  Speaker 7: as I can. And usually when I tell myself that,
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  Speaker 7: I find success. So you know, it went out there
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  Speaker 7: and just let it loose. I think that's why I
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  Speaker 7: play my best.
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  Speaker 1: Bran he didn't try to aim it, he said, he
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  Speaker 1: just tried to kick it as far as he could.
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  Speaker 1: What a way to bounce back after a couple of
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  Speaker 1: weeks where people were saying maybe should bring in some
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  Speaker 1: other kickers to challenge him, and he bounced back big time. Oo.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's probably right. You just kick. How do
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  Speaker 2: you aim from sixty eight yards away? That's a long way.
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  Speaker 2: Patience is a virtue, but not in professional football, and
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  Speaker 2: especially not when you have a team that's losing in
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  Speaker 2: frustrating ways in back to back weeks. But when you
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  Speaker 2: see talent John, when you recognize ability, you don't just say, well,
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  Speaker 2: he couldn't do it today, he's got to leave. You
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  Speaker 2: just work with it. And he's a young player. The
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  Speaker 2: talent has been visible since the first time he kicked
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  Speaker 2: a football on this practice field last year as a rookie.
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  Speaker 2: You just calm down and you're patient because he has
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  Speaker 2: extreme like strength, extreme kicking talent, and he's going to
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  Speaker 2: win more games for the Jaguars than he's going to
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  Speaker 2: cost them over the course of his career.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I wasn't surprised when they stuck with and mainly
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  Speaker 3: because he had missed two fifty yards. One of them
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  Speaker 3: was at Wembley and the field there is different. It
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  Speaker 3: was a difficult kick and it was fifty yards, which
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  Speaker 3: are not gimmes. It's funny. When he lined up for
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  Speaker 3: sixty eight, I thought he's gonna make this.
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  Speaker 4: I mean it.
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  Speaker 3: I've been expecting him to be not necessarily break the records.
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  Speaker 3: I thought you never know circumstance, but I've been thinking
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  Speaker 3: that it would not be unusual if he broke the
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  Speaker 3: record in his first couple of years. So when he
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  Speaker 3: did it, I tweeted out Cam did it. Good for
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  Speaker 3: him because he has the leg strength. He hits him
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  Speaker 3: all the time. I expect maybe by the end of
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  Speaker 3: the season he'll hit from seventy and at that point
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  Speaker 3: Kai he may not hold the NFL record.
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  Speaker 1: It seems like it's just every week, like even last night.
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  Speaker 1: I know the Dallas kicker had a chance at sixty
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  Speaker 1: eight as well. So it seems like kickers are beyond
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  Speaker 1: what we've ever seen before. So it's pretty cool. Stay
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  Speaker 1: with us here on jag Zam. We're gonna go over
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  Speaker 1: some highlights on Sunday against the Raiders.
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  Speaker 7: I mean I turned around. I heard them, you know,
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  Speaker 7: I turned around.
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  Speaker 5: The balls on the ground, jacksmine, I'm exausted.
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  Speaker 1: I think Josh summed it up for most of us.
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  Speaker 1: That was an exhausting game to watch at points, which
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  Speaker 1: is the Dramatics and the cardiac Cats for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it was a fun game to watch, at least
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  Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, let's look at some of the highlights. We'll start
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  Speaker 1: out with the non highlight, just because that interception early on,
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  Speaker 1: because that's kind of how the first half was going.
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  Speaker 1: It was frustrating to watch if you were a Jags fan.
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  Speaker 1: And then this one is just one of those ones
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  Speaker 1: where Trevor let's it go and you're like why.
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  Speaker 2: We get those kinds of mistakes and they happen on
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  Speaker 2: a regular basis, maybe even every single game. But it's
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  Speaker 2: his ability, as he showed us to come back from
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  Speaker 2: that kind of mistake. That's that's a confident arm putting
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  Speaker 2: the charge football in.
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  Speaker 4: There, well, a confident ar. There was no way that
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  Speaker 4: it was ever gonna work.
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  Speaker 3: He was trying to get a dtn early and it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't there, and then obviously he just droved the ball,
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  Speaker 3: and again, as you said, Brian, it's it's it's usually
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  Speaker 3: once a game with something like that, where you go,
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  Speaker 3: what's he doing, But then so often this season he's made.
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  Speaker 4: Up for it with with gutty grit, which is what
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  Speaker 4: we're about to see.
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  Speaker 1: Let's take another look at this kick, because John, you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned when we were sitting at each other in the
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  Speaker 1: press box, he lined up. You're like, oh, yeah, he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna make this because I mean, I had I had
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  Speaker 1: no doubt their indoors with the way it was going,
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  Speaker 1: and also how much they needed it at that point
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  Speaker 1: in the game.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and that's sort of the thing that I think
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  Speaker 3: was cool for everybody was when he made it. I
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  Speaker 3: got to admit, after watching the first half, I was like, well, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I'll be writing about this because I'm not writing about
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  Speaker 3: the game because it's you didn't feel like they were
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  Speaker 3: gonna get anything going. But the fact that it got
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  Speaker 3: them going, I think made it meaningful for everybody.
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  Speaker 4: And again, he.
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  Speaker 3: He does this so consistently that I wrote several times
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  Speaker 3: last year that I expected to break the record at
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  Speaker 3: some point and probably hit from seventy before the end
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  Speaker 3: of the season.
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  Speaker 4: So pretty smart.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all you just ask you.
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  Speaker 4: I was the only guy saying that, Oh sure, I
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  Speaker 4: thought that.
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  Speaker 2: It would be good indoors because he has the leg strength.
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  Speaker 2: But I wasn't sure until I saw Logan Cook's hands
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  Speaker 2: go up, which I thought was cool immediately. And halfway
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  Speaker 2: through that and they're showing the end zone view and
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  Speaker 2: his hands go up. That amazing.
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  Speaker 1: He knows better than I, so absolutely, And it's also
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  Speaker 1: just really cool. I mean, we've talked about this before
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  Speaker 1: because kickers can kind of be their own little thing
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  Speaker 1: and the specialists can kind of have their own thing
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  Speaker 1: going on. But they all embrace him so much, even
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  Speaker 1: when it's you know, in the preseason even people were
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  Speaker 1: freaking out, So it's kind of cool to see the
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  Speaker 1: whole team embrace.
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  Speaker 4: Him as much as they do well.
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  Speaker 2: And it was cool to see the coach be the
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  Speaker 2: first one out there doing that great big bear hug.
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  Speaker 2: I mean especially and then afterwards in the post game
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  Speaker 2: press conference to talk about people wanted me to to
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  Speaker 2: question him and give up on him, and you just
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  Speaker 2: you don't give up on talent.
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  Speaker 1: Like that, especially young talent like that. Let's look at
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  Speaker 1: one of Trevor's rushing touchdowns early on. After the second half,
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  Speaker 1: they came out inspired a little bit by the kick
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  Speaker 1: and got some scoring going early, which they needed and
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  Speaker 1: wasn't always there with the offense obviously, the kinds of
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  Speaker 1: changes to the game plan with all the injuries and
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  Speaker 1: you know, Travis Hunter going down earlier this week, but
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  Speaker 1: he made it happen with his legs and kind of
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  Speaker 1: got it going a little bit there, Trevor did at
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  Speaker 1: that point in the second half.
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  Speaker 6: Well, they were you know, I thought it was a
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  Speaker 6: good coaching job by Liam and just by all the players.
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  Speaker 6: You could tell for the first you know, half three quarters,
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  Speaker 6: they were just trying to find something that worked. As
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  Speaker 6: Trevor said, stuff was working, and then they weren't getting
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  Speaker 6: at home, so they were just trying to figure out
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  Speaker 6: a way to get in the end zone.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, they found it here.
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  Speaker 3: Trevor's legs are a weapon as long as they're not overused, and.
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  Speaker 4: I thought they used him in the right spot here.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much he wants to run after
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  Speaker 2: the injuries the last couple of years. I mean, listen,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much they want him right well,
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  Speaker 2: not too much, but the threat of him running changed
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  Speaker 2: the way that the Raiders approached him the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the way. The threat of him getting out of the
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  Speaker 2: pocket and going so four or five times a game
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  Speaker 2: in a very controlled setting right as best you can
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  Speaker 2: let him loose and let him go because just the
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  Speaker 2: threat of that six foot six frame it's moving towards
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  Speaker 2: the goal line. You could tell that it made a difference.
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  Speaker 3: And important to note there is what we're both saying.
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  Speaker 3: I get emails all the time, why doesn't he run more?
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  Speaker 3: Because he finished the last two seasons, you know, carrying
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  Speaker 3: him right away. He's not a running quarterback that you
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  Speaker 3: build that around, but he does need the threat of.
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  Speaker 2: Well well, and you just look at Lamar Jackson right
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  Speaker 2: who has had the hamstring injury. He's a guy who
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  Speaker 2: can move and get out, but doesn't want to. He
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  Speaker 2: wants to stay in the pocket as much as possible
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  Speaker 2: because he understands the beating that you take when you're
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  Speaker 2: in the open field, it's not going to be sustainable
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  Speaker 2: for the long term.
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  Speaker 1: I think Trevor did a really good job of running
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  Speaker 1: just enough without taking it out of the game plan
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  Speaker 1: where he just felt like he had to run every time,
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  Speaker 1: So he did a good job. Let's take a look
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  Speaker 1: at rock Bauer's second touchdown on the day. He had
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  Speaker 1: three on the day. He is tremendous. We saw it
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  Speaker 1: last year when they played this team, but he had
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  Speaker 1: them and fits on defense trying to cover him every day.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure that there's anybody that could cover him.
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  Speaker 3: I mean on that play, some of the other ones,
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  Speaker 3: or that was special that I'm not sure anybody in
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  Speaker 3: league stops that point.
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  Speaker 2: No, but listen his size, his length, his quickness, the
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  Speaker 2: way that he drops his hips and pivots like a
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver. I mean, for such a big guy, he's
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  Speaker 2: a tough matchup. I mean, think about anybody in the league.
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  Speaker 2: You go, oh, we'll put him on him. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if you had Travis Hunter, I think you would have tried.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a young athlete who's in his prime.
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  Speaker 3: Kelsey gets open by savvy by knowing had to find zones, etc.
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  Speaker 3: This kid is like guy came down and said, you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna be a tight end.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he has that little savvy sense about him like
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  Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey does.
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  Speaker 4: So he is.
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  Speaker 2: He is tremendous and he's gonna get his Yeah, if
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  Speaker 2: he can stay healthy.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to be absolutely up there in the record books.
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  Speaker 1: I am sure. Let's look at some of this overtime action.
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  Speaker 1: Austin Trammell who got called up from the practice squad
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  Speaker 1: with a kick return putting them in good position in
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  Speaker 1: ot And you know, I think we all have some
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  Speaker 1: flashbacks of tramble kick return last year when they called
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  Speaker 1: him up. But he rose to the moment in this
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  Speaker 1: in this moment here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know Austin very well, but or at all.
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  Speaker 3: I was happy for him because it's just what he said.
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  Speaker 1: Guy.
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  Speaker 3: Last year he had the most circumstantially weird season fas
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  Speaker 3: we have one play fumble, right, so to continue to grind,
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  Speaker 3: he probably earned a chance to make the team during
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  Speaker 3: training camp.
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  Speaker 4: He played that well and it's been a different direction.
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: So good for him.
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: And one of the it is hidden plays Brian that
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: you don't think about necessari at the end of the season.
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: But I'm not say they win that game without this playoff,
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: Oh no, I.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Don't think they do. And he is a guy that
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: you're always thinking, well, we're replacing he's undrafted, he landed
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: on your team as a free agent. Every year he's
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: on your practice squad, but I think he keeps earning
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: more and more looks. And the punt return in Philadelphia
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: was unfortunate. He more than made up for it here.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: And I'm telling you now he's going to have to
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: play a role as a wide receiver the next couple
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: of weeks with the Jaguars as beat up with Diammy
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Brown and Brian Thomas Junior at Travis hunter On is
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: your reserve. And I'm gonna say it right now, I
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: think he is going to make more plays with the.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: Way the league structure now. I always say during August,
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: every ask him what's going to be the fifty three?
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: I said, you can't think of it as a fifty
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: three anymore. You have a sixteen player practice squad, and
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: the reality is to function in the NFL right now,
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: you've got to have guys on your practice squad like
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: him waiting who are really part of your team.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: So it's really a sixty He won sixty two man
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: roster these days.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: He may not have blazing speed, but if you watch him,
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: he is really athletic. He can change directions on a dime.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: He's got suddenness about him, He's crafty, he's a Wes
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Welker kind of guy, and perhaps they can find a
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: role for him going forward.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Let's take a look at these final two plays of
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: the game, because right down to the wire, as they do,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: the Raiders have an opportunity. They find brock Bowers again
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: for the third time of the day, in the back
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: of the end zone and they're going for two. And
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: I thank them for that because I didn't want to
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: tie myself so eat away. It was going to be
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: some sort of outcome to this game. And then Gino Smith,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: who had time the locket open, doesn't get it to
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: him because Von Hamilton's big mits were up there and
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: knock the ball down.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say, in hot takes coming up, I
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: point to the fact that on those two plays that
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: you just talked about, the touchdown and the two point conversion,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: they went right towards the safety open. Yeah, they had
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: people open, and they went right at the Jaguar cities.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: So now he get a break, and so we talked
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: about that a little bit.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: I'll go a different direction here, not to be boring,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: but really impressive in overtime, eight straight runs to get
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: in the end zone.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: I thought it was really impressive how.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: They figured out with the receivers out how they had
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: to win this game, and they stuck with the run enough.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: I think what we saw in overtime offensively, if they
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: can get through the next couple of weeks, I think
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: that's how they're going to do it. With all the injuries,
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: they may have found a key to trying to navigate
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: this next stretch.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: We talked last week in the locker room with the
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: players about toughness, about returning to that physical style of
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: play that they had early. Did that drive convince you
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: that they have rediscovered the style of play that they
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: had early that helped them get to form one.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Well, I think that's what they want to be I
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: think with this team right now my senses. I don't
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: know if everybody says, well, if they did that, wasn't
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: you Why don't they just do that the whole game?
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: I think that's difficult because you've.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Got to wear teams down and get to where you
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: can do that. Uh, But I think they'll game plan
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: to try to get to that point where they can.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: Use that late in the game. It'll be interesting to
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: see the creatients and diligence.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's It's be interesting this week guy, to see
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: if they can do it against an excellent defense in Houston,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: one of the very best in the league with Ezra
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Cleveland on the injury report.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a tougher.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Task and a team that knows you very well in
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: the division with the Texans. Stay with us after the break,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: we'll tell you our hot takes from from this week.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Jagg xam brought to you by Firehouse Subs and also
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: bringing hot takes today as well.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Uh, which we got tired of being myselves, I guess. Uh,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: we just locked into the game.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: You know, we got locked on it earlier.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Uh be better than the.
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: Residents, especially earlier in the game, even when you put.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Ourselves in those positions late in the game. But just
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: probably the way that we caught where we responded and
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: when we came.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: On the second half so easy and played well as
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: uh setting up that touchdown and overtime and just overall
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: some big plays throughout the game and consistent, which is
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: nice to see when they get him involved a little
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: bit more.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll go first on the hot takes because
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: I can sort of work Travis into this. Who I thought,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: by the way, I know he's had bigger yardage games.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know what his future with the team is,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: contract whatever. When he leaves here, I'll think of this
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: game with him because he was a different I don't
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: think he would have had this game as first year playing.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: He was knocking off guys. He was playing as tough
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: and physical. He was playing like a fullback, which I
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: was remarkable. So my take is, embrace these cats, and
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: I think Travis are gonna be a big part of this.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: I don't think they're gonna be pretty certainly with the
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: injuries the.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Next few weeks, I think they're going to have to
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: sort of walk wounded through this thing, play some games
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: like they did the other day. I think if you
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: can get through this next stretch sort of keeping your
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: head above water, I think you're in good shape for
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: the end of the season.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: But I think they could give you some great memories
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: this year with possible postseason run. You're not gonna love
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: it every week.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: You're gonna be frustrated if you're a fan thinking is
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Lea's supposed to be about seventeen point blowouts. But I
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: think they're gonna be a team that you can kind
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: of hug at the end of the season and go guys,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: that was fun.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: So what team does that remind you of Jaguars history?
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: The great ninety six team that there was four and
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: seven and they won by bouncing the ball off the
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: uprights and crazy things like that and a missed field
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: goal by Morton Anderson. And it's just it's the most
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: fun season in Jaguars history. And so if what you
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: say is true, then buckle up because it could be
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: a great ride.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because again, the inbox is amazing.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: It was just chaos in the first half and even
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: after the game, you know they're frustrating guys. This is
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: the NFL, I mean frustrating wins or how you get
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: into the postseason.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: And it was a fun win. I mean it was
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: ugly as it may have seen. By the way Etn
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I think has reinvented himself this year. Yeah, underneath Liam
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Cohen and the way I wouldn't have I wouldn't seen
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: him with the tough running between the tackles. We didn't
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: see it last year. So credit to him. He's as
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: fun a player as there is to watch it right now.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: He's your best player on offense.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the stat is what yack yards after contact.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: His is like yeaf yards after violent contact because he
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: I mean he was getting hit hard and still getting yaft.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Yards in earlier career.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: He put on the sideline next generation.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, you were saying earlier how smart you are?
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: Well, well, I don't need to say. People know.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: People know I'm gonna go next because this leads into
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: what my hot take is. John, thank you for setting
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: up how wonderful Etn played, because mine has run the
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: damn ball. We talked every week about how we want
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the wide receivers to get involved. We thought was this
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: team was going to be in the preseason and what
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: they look like right now. Iam Cullen came in here
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: and said, we need to establish the run if we
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: want to do anything on offense. That is how they
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: win football games. That's just their identity at this point.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: That's the way it's going to be and they need
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: to do that. And that includes Trevor Lawrence running a
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: little bit, which we think. I think he did the
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: best version of that against the Raiders where he ran
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: just enough, but he still was focused on throwing the football.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Travis Etn is having a renaissance. Toot and when he
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: gets the ball, I think he can be good as well.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: And then also the Quinn Allen is out there. I
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: just get the running backs involved as much as you
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: possibly can. That's the recipe at this point.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Man, You're going to love Sunday then, because with as
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: many receivers as are banged up in that great pass
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: rush that Houston has with Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: you better be able to run the ball this week
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: and run it and run it and run it. You
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: have got to use the run to set up any
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: sort of passing game that you expect to have.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny. I saw that graphic. I'm thinking if
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Liam says that he's going to be like, I get it,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: I mean I'm trying to run the ball. And by that,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: I mean it's hard in this league right now to
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: come out the way this offense is structured and just
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: run eight straight plays at the beginning of the game.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: You have to get to it. You have to stay
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: with it while you're trying other things. Keep sort of punching.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: It's almost like you're doing this and you kind of
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: going this underneath and get to it. In the second half.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: This team needs to stay close enough and establish it
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: in the first half where they can have the wear
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: down effect that they had the other day, because that's
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: exactly how they want to do. They would have loved
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: to have done that against Seattle and especially the Rams,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: but you can't do it when you're down fourteen twenty
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: one to seven. So they need the circumstances to allow
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: them to run the damn ball.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I'll finish it up then with better safety than sorry.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: As we sit here right now, Tony Piselli, James Gladstone,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Lie and Cohen are engaged with the trade market. They
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: are investigating. Who knows whether they will find because it
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: takes two sides to make a deal and it has
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: to be a good one. But listen, you saw those
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: two plays at the end of overtime. They went right
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: at Dewey, they went right at Antonio Johnson. The safeties
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: that the Jaguars and Visions starting the season with aren't injured.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Reserve tayleab brand'sa always supposed to be on the field,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: same with Eric Murray, and they're playing with two guys
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: that they would rather have coming in in situations. I
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: don't know who the right guy is. I mean, micka
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Fin Patrick. His name has been floated out of Miami.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know who fits the scheme that Anthony Campanelli
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: wants to run. I don't know who makes sense from
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: a salary perspective. But you can talk about tight end,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: you can talk about wide receiver, you can talk about
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: defensive tackle all you want. I think the most glaring
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: issue the Jaguars face as we sit here right now
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: with the trade deadline coming up at four o'clock Eastern time,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: is a safety. Maybe it's post traumatic stress from last
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: season where they gave up all those big plays. But
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, and you see this for yourself. They're
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: attacking the Jaguars safeties. They need help, better safety than sorry.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Hope help is coming. I don't know for this.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see. I mean it's it can be tricky.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: And if they can't get that, then they got to
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: get more pass rush because you can't have time to
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: attack those guys.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: All right, Trade deadlines at four will have updates on
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: that for you tomorrow. But stay with us here we'll
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: tell you what's coming up the rest of the week.
• 25:24
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• 25:42
  Speaker 2: God real quick.
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: Okay, so many dudes stepped up today. So many guys
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: stepped up today. Unbelievable job Devon Hamilton, end the game,
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: tig down and tie in the Franchi. How about our
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: quarterback man online running unbelievable. Hey, that's the NFL football win.
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: That's called responding.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: It's an NFL football win. And I will say that's
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: the cleanest version of that we've ever seen those. And
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: he's all us, guess we'll harm but there we go.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: I think he was too tired.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they've got You think about coaches with tenure,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think they've got there, Mike Tomlin, I
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: think they've got their John Harbaugh. I mean Bill Cower.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: You know, you think of those guys who are in
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: one place for a long period of time. And it's
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: hard to watch his team, which is five and three
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: after eight games, right, but also to listen to him
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: and to see the way that he connects personally with
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: these guys and the way they responding him and not
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: think he's going to be your while and he's going
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: to be that guy that they've been hoping to have
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: here gosh forever.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think people, you know, you have so many
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: people who analyze the NFL, and they talk about play
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: calling and x'es and o's and personnel and it all matters.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: But the one overlooked thing I think sometimes is belief
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: in direction of the franchise. Where you don't have guys going, hey,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: this shouldn't be going this year, right, everybody believes this
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: is the direction. When you're pulling together and everybody believes
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: in it, it makes a lot of difference.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: In close games, and it's hard to find that guy,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: you know, that fits the city and the owner and
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: all of that, as evidenced by the fact that since
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Tom Kauflin, I mean, they've gone through, you know, six
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: other coaches and they finally, you know, the eighth version
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: of Jaguars head coach turns out to be that guy
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: good for good for con and what he did to
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: pull the thing back from the edge last year and
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: to make the changes pretty good fit.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: As we mentioned, it's the try a deadline today, so
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: we'll have the details for you tomorrow morning if anything
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: goes down at all with that, and we'll be back
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: here on Jack's Am. We'll see then