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Raekwon Interview · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Real people, real celebrity join the Breakfast Morning. Everybody is
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  Speaker 1: DJ en vi Agela, Ye, Charlomagne, the guy. We are
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  Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club special guests in the building right the
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  Speaker 1: God what peace? Lord? How y'all? How y'all. First of all, congratulations.
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  Speaker 1: This year is a twenty year anniversary of only Built
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  Speaker 1: for Cuban Links, which is a huge deal. So as
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  Speaker 1: we get in the concert, a purple tape concert. Oh
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  Speaker 1: you already know, you know, we got a whole whole
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  Speaker 1: forty five day to layout getting way come up in July,
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  Speaker 1: so we're gonna pay homage and do that album. Are
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  Speaker 1: being hand about the documentary? Yeah, documentary is officials coming out.
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  Speaker 1: Though you have original for this from back when you
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  Speaker 1: were actually doing that album. Yeah, we got some stuff though,
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  Speaker 1: but the way we're doing this one is like it's
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  Speaker 1: it's different and it's more like us building to y'all.
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  Speaker 1: It ain't like accolades and all of that. It's more
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  Speaker 1: like y'all talking to us now the beginning. When you
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  Speaker 1: crafted that album twenty years ago, did you think it
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  Speaker 1: would not only staying the test of time that it had,
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  Speaker 1: but it was it was a hip hop classic. When
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  Speaker 1: you was doing it. I felt like that I was
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  Speaker 1: in my prime. Um you know, when you're making your
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  Speaker 1: first album, you know that shit that should number one
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  Speaker 1: right there. So I was just giving y'all a reflection
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  Speaker 1: of what I was seeing coming up, and um, I
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  Speaker 1: felt good about it. After I made it, I was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was. I didn't even want videos. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted a whole flick, you know, when they was like
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  Speaker 1: they was thinking a brother was going too far dreaming,
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  Speaker 1: you know, But I was just feeling like that because
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  Speaker 1: it was different. You know, I made it different. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted it to be different because I felt like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: everybody had their own style out there, and I just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to come with something new. There is a dude
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  Speaker 1: Beach specifically for that album, or didn't he just have
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  Speaker 1: stuff like that in the stash already? Um nah, he
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  Speaker 1: you know, he definitely, you know, it was doing a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things to it, you know, changing up Beach.
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  Speaker 1: One thing about Raw when he was making Beach, it
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  Speaker 1: was like you might have run to this and it
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  Speaker 1: came out to be something like that. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: some of the beasts, like Glaciers of Ice, they was different.
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  Speaker 1: It was different. Now let's talk about the new album
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  Speaker 1: Flight International Luxurious all right, in particular the sound that
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  Speaker 1: you did with Asap Rocky I Got Money. You really
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  Speaker 1: brought him into your chamber. It's not like you tried
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  Speaker 1: to be, you know, do something that's not you. It
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  Speaker 1: really was like an updated flavor for Ray Kuan from
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  Speaker 1: back in the day. But it's modern. But it's not like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't no. It sounds like you really put a
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  Speaker 1: step Rocky on something that sounds like a ray Kuon beat. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you know, I'll just get up
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  Speaker 1: in there and just do what I feeling. I felt
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  Speaker 1: like that b cater to the young audience. Um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I just felt like he could rock it. You know.
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  Speaker 1: Of course we had a relationship already in the past
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  Speaker 1: on working on stuff, and I just felt like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: let me connect with the young you know, and somebody
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  Speaker 1: from my town. You know. I like what he's doing.
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  Speaker 1: He a thoroughbreak good person, you know, like yo, I
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  Speaker 1: think he can rocket now. He stayed in the You
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  Speaker 1: stayed independent on this one. Now, you were probably one
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  Speaker 1: of the first artists that went independent and that was
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  Speaker 1: successful going independent when you dropped album, So you're not
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  Speaker 1: you're not going back to me. It's not gonna happen. Huh.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, you know the control fact, I can't even
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  Speaker 1: I can't even let nobody be my boss right now.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta be cutting a big, big, big,
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  Speaker 1: horrific check, a scary one where I gotta make that decision.
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  Speaker 1: One of the first, one of the first one to
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  Speaker 1: be successful as a rapper to do it because he
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  Speaker 1: was because you know, most of these rappers, the South
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  Speaker 1: Houston me, I mean from Midside to really do independent
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  Speaker 1: on his own and be very successful doing it. But
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  Speaker 1: you had a lot of guest appearances on this album
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  Speaker 1: as well. So how does that work? Do they just
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  Speaker 1: say favorite for favor or you know, I know you
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  Speaker 1: got the budget that you opened them up. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: probably different when you got to spend your own money now,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, definitely relationships is important on you
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  Speaker 1: know a lot of dudes, they wouldn't even take my money,
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  Speaker 1: right you know, you know a lot of dudes they
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  Speaker 1: called me. You know, I don't ask for money. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if your label called me, then yeah, I want some money.
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  Speaker 1: That's the pleasure of being independent of your label calling me.
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  Speaker 1: What you call me and me and you you know,
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  Speaker 1: we were cool like that. I might ask for a dollar,
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  Speaker 1: you know, she'll give me a dollar. Do you feel
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  Speaker 1: the need that you said, you said you have to
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  Speaker 1: be that cater to the young folks. Do you feel
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  Speaker 1: the cat to the young crowd? You have to, you
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  Speaker 1: know when you when you're doing business, and you know
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  Speaker 1: that you know, because we we we we nineties dudes.
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  Speaker 1: So you know a lot of these dudes they just
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  Speaker 1: heard of us. You know, they heard from Nate brothers
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  Speaker 1: or mothers or fathers or whatever. But yeah, you have
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  Speaker 1: to transition yourself a little bit to really adapt to
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  Speaker 1: what's going on, you know, in order to stay relevant.
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  Speaker 1: Rather is it hard. Do you have to dumb down
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  Speaker 1: a little bit or not? I ain't dumbing and I'm
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  Speaker 1: just being me man, just giving them what they know.
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  Speaker 1: You know, a lot of times dudes are want to
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  Speaker 1: do something with us based on the fact of the
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  Speaker 1: reputation that we were carrying a business. So if you're
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  Speaker 1: winning across an artist that you know it's very successful
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  Speaker 1: and you want to come up and you know he's
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  Speaker 1: still out there. You know, dudes want to work with you.
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  Speaker 1: They you know, they feel like it's an honor to
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  Speaker 1: do that. Who are some other people that you like?
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  Speaker 1: Now that's young? I know you guys like Drake because
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  Speaker 1: obviously Drake paid homage to Booting as well. But who
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  Speaker 1: are some other terrible record though by the way, he
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  Speaker 1: sloated yours down way too much. Can't turn it Twitter
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  Speaker 1: love song like love songs though, sole music, all of that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know I'm heavy on that, you know, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I definitely said I definitely want to heard the beat.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, yo, it could be a little iller though,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I felt like that. But who else do
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  Speaker 1: you like? Now? Like what new artists were you like?
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  Speaker 1: Okay about to that? Like Chinks? You know, I think
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  Speaker 1: Chinks is a dope young g coming up doing this thing.
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  Speaker 1: Um a couple of cats, you know, few cats from
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  Speaker 1: all over Dave East Okay, yeah, I think he liked
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  Speaker 1: one of the new top dudes coming out. You still
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  Speaker 1: a Toronto from from Um, I still got something. I
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  Speaker 1: had to let a couple go though, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: know they was lacking in certain departments and I ain't
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  Speaker 1: in the force and nobody to you know, to win
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  Speaker 1: if you don't lazy, you know how that be you know,
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  Speaker 1: just just you, you know, you want to you try
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  Speaker 1: to coach dudes and tell them they gotta work real
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  Speaker 1: hard because you know, hit records don't just come overnight,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And my thing is, if you don't get
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  Speaker 1: it and you're not really ready to think like that
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  Speaker 1: or network, when I'm when I'm setting you up with
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  Speaker 1: these plays for you to get on it, and you're not,
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  Speaker 1: You're showing me right there you don't want it. You
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  Speaker 1: think it was harder when you were coming up because
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  Speaker 1: it required a lot more legwork to blow up a
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  Speaker 1: lot more talent, Yeah, a lot more talent at more
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  Speaker 1: leg work, and it feels like it's a lot more oversaturated.
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  Speaker 1: And I also feel like sometimes people think things come
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  Speaker 1: a lot quicker and easier because they just go online
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  Speaker 1: put out stuff. They just all they gotta do is
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  Speaker 1: flood the internet, go on Twitter, you know, go on
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  Speaker 1: Instagram and all of that. You think it was a
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  Speaker 1: lot harder. Um, I think it was harder for us,
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  Speaker 1: right for you. It's easier right now for everybody. It's
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  Speaker 1: just all about you know, having content and just trying
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  Speaker 1: to be a net you know network, you know, everything
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  Speaker 1: is about networking. You know, a lot of times all
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  Speaker 1: this come in and they think, oh, I just gotta
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  Speaker 1: rhyme and that's it. You know that ain't know all
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  Speaker 1: you gotta do. You know, you gotta build relationships. You gotta,
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  Speaker 1: you know, show me that. You know. It's like, I
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  Speaker 1: guess I feel like that now because now I understand
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  Speaker 1: how the labels was looking at us back then, like
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  Speaker 1: you know, and we just was doing whatever we wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do. But it's important though, when you when you
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  Speaker 1: want to win. I think from the from the whole,
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  Speaker 1: from the whole woll clan. I think you're probably the
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  Speaker 1: one that got it early because you You're probably the
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  Speaker 1: one that's recognizable, that goes out every night that I
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  Speaker 1: see all the time, that mingles the other other dude
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  Speaker 1: don't really like now and let's be clear, definitely been
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  Speaker 1: getting his body. Ray is out. Ray is out in
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  Speaker 1: the young clubs. He's out in the old Ray is
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  Speaker 1: out all the time, young chicks. That's why that Ray
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  Speaker 1: propable on you rag moving appreciate this lifestyle. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we said him talking about you on divorce court, you know,
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  Speaker 1: breaking up Happy Home, the old clan, the whole, everybody. Now,
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  Speaker 1: to be clear, I did say this when I saw
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  Speaker 1: that divorce court and she said she stayed out all
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  Speaker 1: night with the wool taint. Nothing happened. I said, that's possible,
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  Speaker 1: I said, because they couldn't. I could have been playing chess,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Ray Kuan could have been cooking up some steaks.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, let me tell you something, man. Every time,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know, it's so crazy because you know,
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  Speaker 1: we got all kind of fans and that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it ain't it ain't always that, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Like we sit up and just have great conversation just
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  Speaker 1: because they're cool like that. You know. It's been times
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  Speaker 1: where you know, dudes came with their girls and you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're like, yo, you want to hear you know, and
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  Speaker 1: you just sometimes just chill with them, you know, just
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  Speaker 1: to see the reaction on their face, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: let them know, like, yo, we're real people. You know.
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  Speaker 1: I like to see fans like you know, just be like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm in I'm in the chef right now, what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I'll get you like ten fifteen minutes, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and we have her ghost face saying you god damn rights,
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  Speaker 1: but you were till seven am. We have you got
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  Speaker 1: called like that before as a girl's man called y'all
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  Speaker 1: before we got the ya before. Oh it was happening
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  Speaker 1: for I remember it was stories. I remember y'all. This kid.
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  Speaker 1: It was this little young white kid. You know. They
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  Speaker 1: had this girl on the bus rock boy, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was so funny because it was like she was
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  Speaker 1: in the back nervous, like he's like he's head, Like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: he's head. So you know, we like, all right, he's here,
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  Speaker 1: so yo, while homeboy came on the bus looking for
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  Speaker 1: his girl. He didn't even get an invite. He just
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  Speaker 1: walked on. So you know, respected him after that. I
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  Speaker 1: you usually do to be like what, but automatically, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we just sat back and see how he was moving.
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  Speaker 1: And he came on a bus and you know he
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  Speaker 1: was like you know your hold you know the meaning yo.
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  Speaker 1: He was really you know, he was really like telling
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  Speaker 1: like the security dudes like yo, nah nah. So they
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  Speaker 1: like had to throw him off the bus, but yo,
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  Speaker 1: he fought his way off the bus. The girl. Yeah nah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we no get your man, no, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. But it was funny though. Man, I
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  Speaker 1: respected dude going after. You know, I remember girls used
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: to drive behind the tour bus, go from city to city,
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  Speaker 1: just following woutang. But that's all part of that road life,
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  Speaker 1: you know at that time, at that time, does it
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  Speaker 1: bother you that is he trying to get it? You know,
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  Speaker 1: you're trying to have news on the streets still to
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  Speaker 1: a out door Yeah, I mean you know, um yeah,
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  Speaker 1: dudes is always moving. Man. You just did Coachella, which
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  Speaker 1: was huge. Yeah, chef just did that, Me and Goest
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  Speaker 1: eighty five thousand. He Why do you think hip hop
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  Speaker 1: can't have the same thing that like rock and roll
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  Speaker 1: has with a rolling stones, can still go out there
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  Speaker 1: and tour. I mean we could. I mean it's just
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  Speaker 1: all about, you know, making sure everything is organized, you
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  Speaker 1: know that to be dope to see that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I always believe that it's possible. You know. It's just
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  Speaker 1: all about connecting with the artist. It's like when y'all
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  Speaker 1: do big shows, you know, y'all y'all tally them up.
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  Speaker 1: It's like you need to see more of that, while
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  Speaker 1: wait will only do it once a year, right. I
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  Speaker 1: think hip hop is younger than rock and roll too,
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  Speaker 1: so we'll get to that point where, you know, twenty
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  Speaker 1: years since the only built for Cuban links and it's
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  Speaker 1: still something that you could go out and do and
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  Speaker 1: do forty five shows off. This much difficult because somebody
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  Speaker 1: originators can't go out there and tours. It's very difficult
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: for them, very difficult for them. I just like, we
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  Speaker 1: don't think we support ourselves. And I think in our genre,
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  Speaker 1: if we get older, it's like, oh they whacked. Yo.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like if it ain't this air that does,
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  Speaker 1: it ain't gonna happen. If it ain't wut they can
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  Speaker 1: do it now as they can do it. Yep. You
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  Speaker 1: know Hole still does it. But it's like if this
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  Speaker 1: er can't do it, I don't see it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: see it happening. Yo. The music, it's all about the
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  Speaker 1: music though. If the music is timeless the people, you know,
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: I guess for us, you know, we could still tour
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  Speaker 1: file first albums. You know, I made a lot of
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  Speaker 1: money just singing the joints that everybody want to hear,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and not. And sometimes I'll be I'll be like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm tired of doing them. I want to
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  Speaker 1: do new stuff, but this is what they request. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you can't go to a key sweat join and don't
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  Speaker 1: think that you ain't gonna hear I want all you know,
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  Speaker 1: you trust you know you want those. So we just
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  Speaker 1: we just have to get the fans what they want.
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: You know, you said you feel well. I read somewhere
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  Speaker 1: where you said you feel better now than you did
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  Speaker 1: twenty years ago. Yeah, just you know, just mentally physically.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's just all about knowing your cloth. Now
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  Speaker 1: I get it. I understand my brand. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: couldn't feel a certain kind of way if you ain't
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  Speaker 1: have a brand. Me knowing how internationally this brand is,
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  Speaker 1: It's like, I'm just trying to go out there and
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  Speaker 1: do what I was supposed to do. You don't. I
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: don't just do this for me. I do this for
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  Speaker 1: you know, the flagship or the crew, you know, because
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  Speaker 1: I know that it can help all of us, you know,
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  Speaker 1: as long as they just know somebody moving. It's like
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  Speaker 1: Wou Chang is always gonna be in the air. Right.
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  Speaker 1: But made you realize you had to be an entrepreneur um, Like,
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: was there a point when you were like, Okay, this
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: is ridiculous. I'm not getting this and I'm supposed to
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: get this should be happening. I need to know what's
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: going on with my business. Was there a point time
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: when you just realized, didn't say, Okay, I need to
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  Speaker 1: get this in orders, in order, this in order? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, just just feeling like at some
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  Speaker 1: point you be getting jerked in the business. You wake up,
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: you know, you're like, yo, hold on, let me focus
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  Speaker 1: and really pay attention to what's going on. You know
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  Speaker 1: that that might have been for me back in like
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  Speaker 1: ninety eight ninety nine, my second album, you know, because
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  Speaker 1: once Loud, once Loud did whatever, it didn't diminished. It
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  Speaker 1: was like I went to UM, I went to another
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  Speaker 1: set over there by Universal, and you know they was
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  Speaker 1: kind of scared of me because they didn't know what
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking, you know, so but me trying to
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  Speaker 1: still be humbling, you know, let them dictate what they
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  Speaker 1: may think is right. It's like I failed, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so announced like I can't even really I gotta go
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  Speaker 1: with what I feel right now. Is that the reason
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  Speaker 1: the Mobilarity was so different from I wanted it to
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  Speaker 1: be different. I want every album to be different. I
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  Speaker 1: don't never want it to be like, you know, you're
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: gonna keep getting the same style for me, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I guess that's I always want every album to be
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  Speaker 1: even from this one. This one is like, this one
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  Speaker 1: ain't built on a concept. This one is just lifestyle
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  Speaker 1: right here. Just you seeing me twenty years later, still
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  Speaker 1: giving y'all great music, you know, still keeping it where
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  Speaker 1: y'all would expect me to keep it, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: still still intertwining with the new Nah. This ain't got
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  Speaker 1: nothing to do with them. They ain't coming with the
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  Speaker 1: right back. I'm keeping a hunting. I ain't gone against them.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I thought it would have been a dope move.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, my thing is if you want you want,
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  Speaker 1: you want support, you go out and ask for you
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  Speaker 1: gotta less support, show you how it works. You know,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: you can't try to act like you want support, but
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: then you know everything. It's like then what you want
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  Speaker 1: support for? You know. And we talked about we talked
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  Speaker 1: about some of the different stuff, you know, doing some
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  Speaker 1: lines and all. I guess they just ain't really get it. Yeah,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: they ain't understand. Now. What about that last Wooting album
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: that lest an event? Yeah, but I didn't host it.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny. I bought a better Tomorrow
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: when it came out, and I literally just started listening
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: to it like two weeks ago. I don't know why.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: I was like, what, I never listened to Better Tomorrow,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: And I was surprised. It was really dope, like really
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: dope people talking to talking about it. It was different though,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know it was it had a lot
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: of positive messages in it, you know, which that's what
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Rizal wanted to do. But um, you know, it was
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: just something that he wanted to do. All were you
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: with that project a little bit? You know, we was
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: still going through our little thing, me and me and
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Woo Chang management. You know, everything cool now, I mean,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: you know, not really I was still ain't right, you know,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: but we talking, conversation is open. I mean, these are
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: my brothers, man. At ends of the day, you know,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't never look at them like the enemy,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: you know, regards to what we go through. I think
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: it's just more like we don't understand each other fully yet.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Business wise, maybe you don't connect. Yeah, business wise, we
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: don't you ever think that. Maybe y'all have grown apart,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: but y'all still trying to keep it together just because
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: it's the woll it be like that, I mean, you
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: can't walk. It's hard for me to walk away from
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: something that that that that made me. You know, I
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: wasn't cut from that cloth to just not acknowledge that.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: You know. One thing about us is like, well, argue
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: with you know, go all the way there, but we
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: won't physically take it there because you know, when if
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: it becomes that, then it's like it won't never come back,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: you know, because we need those type of dudes. It's
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: like it's always going to haunt us. Like, yo, you
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: you got we got it in so I would never
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I would never respect you know more. But you know,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's brotherhood. Man. It's like,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: you know, for somebody who got a big family, brothers
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: and sisters, and you know sometimes you love your family
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: from distance. You're like, yo, stay over there. I'm gonna
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: stay over here, you know. But we don't wish each other.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't wish you know, I ain't down
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: for that. I don't, you know, because I know when
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: you go get a bag, you go home to you
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: you know, my nephews, you know, catching the crew got
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: names after you know, they you name make seeds after.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Everybody's family is really tight. With each other. So it's
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: like you can't just yeah, you can't just walk away
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: from that. You know. That's one thing about us. We
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: ain't gonna never let money. You know. I'm gonna type
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: of dude like this if you if you take something
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: from me and it's swing some money and I love you,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: it's like, I look at that was a way for
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: me to you know, see who you are. So it's
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: like if the money was the issue, I know who
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: you are now. You know, some people just get addicted to,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: you know, feeling like that's how they gotta handle each
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: other's by robbing your friends, you know what I mean. Like,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: if that's what you gotta do, bro, then yo, I
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: guess the money. You know, I ain't letting money. I
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: ain't letting money over overcome who I am right as
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: a person. You know that I ain't gonna do business
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: with you if the money, Yeah, you know, shame on
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: shame on you the first time. You know, I go
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: shame on me the next. It's better, Like, Yo, let's
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: just stop doing business. We can remain friends. I prefer
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: that sometimes even doing business today it's like, you know,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I let it, dude. No, Like if you feel like
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: the business is going to mess up the friendship, then yo,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: just keep it moving. But I can't work with somebody
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't like you, and we get money,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: but it's hard because people want to hear the music.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: They want to hear, they want to hear, they want
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: to see the clan together like they want to see it.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: So it was hard, you know, because I know you've
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: got people fans coming to you every day, like when
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: you're doing another album, when you're going on the road again.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: And not to mention that other guys in the group,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I'm sure for some people they are dependent on the
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: whole entire group coming together because you know, definitely certain
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: members sold more records and have more recognition than others,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: so it kind of helps other people out in the group.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: If you're like, Okay, let's go do this together, it
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: hurts when certain members aren't gonna do it. Yeah, I mean,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: but you know, it's it's all about organizing. You know.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: You can't you can't put somebody in a situation that
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: we don't know what's going on. That's like, you know,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: it's like you over there, envy, you got something going on.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: But collectively, y'all, you know, y'all used to rolling with
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: each other, but it ain't them days no more. So
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: now when you're over there doing what you're doing, you know, yeah,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: something kind of the table where they know that it
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: can happen, but at the end of the day, you
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: don't even know what's going on, you know. And then
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: you gotta make sure that if it's your criteria where
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: you at it, you can't just be forcing it because y'all,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do that. It's like,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: at least give me the benefit of the doubt of
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: knowing what you're doing, you know, and then come back
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: to me. You know, we've been plenty of times where
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: we all sacrifice, you know, just to make sure we
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: all eat. But you know that could only go but
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: so farsome. It's hard with a team, man, because it's like,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: you know, bigger than the teams. That's the best way.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: But like you said, it's difficult because charlemagn't go one way,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Ego one way. I go one way. And you know,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: we all have families that we gotta supports. What about
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: this album that's not supposed to be released for another
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: seventy five years or something like that I can't even really,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I can't elaborate on that. Have you heard it? Um? Nah, yeah, no,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I'm want I want you know, these are these are
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: records that was dusted off from me back in a day.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: But um, you know, no, I ain't really hear it
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: like that. You and the originally y'all, y'all seem to
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: class musically. Was it always like this? Nah? I wasn't,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: you know, But then again it was though, you know,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: it was we always was collectively down with the production side,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: you know, because we could we could feel a great
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: record when we hear it. You know, that's my thing.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I would I would sit in a classroom and look
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: at Rizzard like the teacher. But you know, you still
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: got to say something to the teacher sometimes if you
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: ain't feeling it right, you know. And I think that
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: he was just you know, at the level where he
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: felt like he was making everything that was knowing improven.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: We was like, nah, mean that ain't it, you know?
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: And I just was the one that outspoken one, because
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: you know, I believe that you know, when any MC
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: that's nice, he gonna always be nice, you know. But
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: if he gets the proper production, he could be he
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: could be around you know more, And that's of my thing.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: You know, when everybody look at the Woo they know
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: we capable of. I just wanted to have the brankets
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: that had the energy, you know that, you know that
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: the fight music that everybody wants. Not saying that he
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: can't be rounded. I mean, of course, but let's let's
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: still give them something that we all feel good about,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: not just one dude, because I always think about that,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: because he like there is always said that he had
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: full control. But none of the Woo Tank projects sounded
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: the same like Dirty Y album didn't sound like Yaws,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: y'alls didn't sound like meth, Meth didn't sound like Yeah.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know at that time, everybody was really
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: hands on and and being hands on with the project.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: You know nowadays, with that particular project, it was just
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: racing foot, you know, race to get something out there,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: when really that ain't how we normally do things. It's
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: probably different if you're in the studio together working something
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: than it is when you're sending stuff through email and
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: when you when you're making when when you were group
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: like Wout Chain Clan, you got to take time and
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: do it together you know, you know it's different when
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: you're doing your own things, then you could do it
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: the way you want to. But when because you know,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: everybody want to make sure that you know, we like
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the music, you know, if it's something that I made
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: or whatever or that's on the record, and um, you know,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I want to know how they all feel. I don't
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: want it to just be up there because it's like
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: me and Rizza felt like that. NA, I need to
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: know how you feel about it. You might say, Yo,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: that ain't nick or yo. You know I could take
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: it right, so you know how to go. You know,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: it's just all about everybody being there at one time
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: and just getting it in. Now. I'm waiting for this
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: bout ten biopick or something to happen because you see
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: they have the NWA one. Did I know, y'all have
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: got to talk about and you know that's something that
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to too. You know, it's a it's
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: a it's a mean story behind us, man. I guess
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: you know, I guess should have happened when it's time.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: You know, when I think about the NWA story, like
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: it almost took them like twenty five years to really
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: really tell it the way they want to tell it.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: You know, I think it's important to have a great director,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: you know that really is willing to look in because
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I tell anybody, be like when when when we came together,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: it was like putting something together that wasn't meant to happen,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: but it was meant to happen, you know, imagine you know,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: It's like I tell tell dudes, you know when Rizzard
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: started calling anybody like you you you you you're coming
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: to studio. You know. We wasn't even we wasn't even
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: rapids like that. We just loved We loved the art
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: of it. We grew up in it. So it was
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: like I might have had a little bit of skill,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: but I had a lot of hip hop in me,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: you know. And he knew my potential. He knew certain dudes,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: you know, certain dudes that was just around. Dudes got
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: put on you know master Killer, you know that's my brother.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: He was with Jizza. You know, we loved him so much.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, come in, you know what I mean.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: His heart was was where it's supposed to be. And
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: it's like I've never seen a group made like this
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: before when first started, Yeah, you gull was locked up.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: He just came home only had eight balls. He only
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: had like eight balls in the first up. Now he
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: always had heat thought. I mean, you know, it's just
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: that he was away. You know, he came out, he
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: was fresh, he had the afro. You know, you know,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: he just had only a little bit of time to
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: make it happen. And that's what it was. You feel
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: like the artist, like Wu Tang and yourself set the
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: ball too high for New York that nobody's been able
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: to reach. You Like the next err just could not
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: do what Wu Tang did, what Nas did, what Jay did,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: what boot Camp Click did. It just couldn't. Some things
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: just ain't gonna be duplicated, you know. And I think
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: that we wanted them type of group. Stat already, you're
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: not gonna get one of those, forget it. You know.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: It's the same way I look at You're not gonna
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: get a run DMC. You know you're not gonna get
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: a NAS like that. You know, Um, you know, it's
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: just it's just all about your heritage, what you come from.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: You know, if you if you come from music the
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: way we come from it, and you understand what it's about,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: you know that's why I respect documentaries, because documentaries from
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: great artists it you know, it kind of like puts
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: you in perspective to see what they're going through. You know,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Like I was chilling yesterday. I was with Iced Tea.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I was at his crib. You know, he got this
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: podcast that you do, so you know, he, you know,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: the legend out there, he doing what he's doing it
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: and surrounding his fan base next him, and you know,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: we was going back and forth in stories, and a
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: lot of stories that he was saying was like I
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: was familiar with it, Like damn, it seemed like he
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: he telling my life, you know. And to me it's
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: just so important though, you know, because you really see
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: the greatness in the artist when you can see his story. Right.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: And you talked about bringing Nazi stat in Island for
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: the first time to record for the album and everything. Yeah,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I'm sure y'all had a lot of people coming to
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: stating now nah, And I really don't nah, not really really.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Staton Allen was hot. Nobody want to get on the
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: ferry or whatever. Nobody you don't want to get stat now.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: And you know, stat now is another another type of
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: another type of place, you know. I mean some cats
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: came through of course though, you know Smith and Wesson,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: you know, dudes that really relate to the streets. But
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: we never really want the brain dudes around it, you know.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: You know one time on one of my homeboys got
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: locked up and they threw them in the sale with
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: with with theces and all that they was playing them like,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: because they knew he wasn't from there. So I don't
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: recommend dudes to go out there like that even now.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Still it's probably worse right now. You think nobody else
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: came out of Stanton knowledge. You think nobody else came
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: out of Staton knowledge, Um, like no other rappers. There
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: was a couple, yeah, you know, a couple of cats
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: tried though, but um, it's just all about the work ethic, man,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: you know, from standing Yeah, I mean, I guess it's
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: just because they wasn't really putting it all the way down,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: you know. It's you know, this is the one thing
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: about this sport right here. You gotta be out there,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you know. Um, I tell anybody and anybody from stating
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: now and that I love you. Gotta go out people,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: gotta see y'all more, you know, you know, um, the music.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: You just gotta make what it takes to show everybody
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: what it is. I tell anybody, if you make, if
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: you come out of stating owl and you do so much,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: and I feel like it's enough for me to support
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna support you. So it's like it's like
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I give dudes that card, like, just show me what
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: you could do. Show me, you know what I mean,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: if you can make it up to the radio station
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and blah blah blay. Yeah, nine times out of ten,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I'm backing you up just because you from stating now,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: just because I want to see that happen because we
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: need it, you know. And I know it's a lot
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: of talent out there, you know, but it's about that work.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I just feel like you're doing the right thing with
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: the Purple Tap Man. You got the documentary coming out
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: this year. You just dry the new album. Like I
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: feel like the ball was dropped for the thirty six
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Chambers into the Wood tag when it was that twenty
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: year There was no doct about that, man, you know.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: I mean it's just, you know, like I said, dealing
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: with a with a with a franchise team be everybody
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: gotta be in sync. You gotta have the right coaches
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: and the right people making sure we all on the
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: same page, you know, because it's it's so many of us.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: You know, you can't talk though half of us and
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: then expect the others have to understand and we not
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: around each other everything. It's not like that, you know.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: We one thing. We always sold y'all from the beginning,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: and nobody in this room good fun on that. We said, Yo,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: when we come in, we're gonna come in this way,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: and then everybody would eventually do their own thing. That's
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: what's going on, you know that. You know, everybody made
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: a lot of money. You know, what you did with
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: your money is what you did. Where your career is
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: at is where it sat. You know, I could say
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: that for myself, I blew a lot of cash, you know,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: and right now I'm just still fortunate to be able
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: to go out there and capitalize. You know, ain't in
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: nobody way. You know, I ain't. Ain't stopping you from
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: doing your one too, don't stop me from doing mine,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: you know. And um, when it's time to come back
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: together and do chores, and we always could do that,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: we could all who chang is gonna always be able
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: to go get millions of dollars every year. You know,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: it's just all about the scheduling and the in the
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: in the in the business, the people, the whole team
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: still care about the w or is it just the
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: money thing? Nah? I think you know that the kids
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: always the w though, But you know the money is
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: just something that you know, don't play with nobody's money.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Be fair, be fair, you know, don't straight up straight
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: up there you go. Wow, we appreciate you joining us
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: out now International Luxurious shout out the oil, the oil
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: them super features on there. You know, I know, I
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: know this my first y'all know, this my first time
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: doing a record with this many facture features. Yeah, you
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: know that. That's the Melanie Fiona, that's Charlomie's Booth Melody
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Lord Ray Ross. Yeah, you know everybody showed up. Now.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I don't even be watching it though. Wow, it's the
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club, it's Ray