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Jags HQ | Playing With Intensity: Discussing Week 1 Atmosphere With Liam Coen · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Jags HQ. Brian Sexton and former Jaguar Jeff
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  Speaker 1: Loggeman sit down each week with the decision makers of
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  Speaker 1: your Jacksonville Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to bring you a product that you all
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  Speaker 2: can be proud of.
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  Speaker 3: With that.
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  Speaker 1: Game on. Jags HQ starts right now.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to Jags HQ. Brian Sexton along with Jeff Lagerman.
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  Speaker 3: And the head coach will be here shortly, as will
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  Speaker 3: Tony Buscelli and James Gladstone. Tell you about Sunday's game
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  Speaker 3: against the Cleveland Browns here at Everbank Stadium. Presented by Publix,
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  Speaker 3: where shopping is a pleasure. And it sure will be
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  Speaker 3: nice to have regular season football in Jacksonville back. What
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  Speaker 3: do you think?
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  Speaker 4: I'm loving it.
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  Speaker 5: What do we got? Six games here at the bank?
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  Speaker 3: Six games here. Yep. Six more games and then none
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  Speaker 3: until 2028 in Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 5: Anyone, anytime, anywhere, right?
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  Speaker 3: Triple A.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I hear there were t-shirts made. We'll have to ask
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  Speaker 3: the coach about that. All right. Listen, that's the smart approach.
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  Speaker 3: You're home this year, but you should still approach it
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  Speaker 3: like you will go and do whatever it takes wherever
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  Speaker 3: you have to go do it.
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  Speaker 5: There's nothing better than the environment of game day and
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  Speaker 5: especially the first one. You know, and Especially since you
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  Speaker 5: didn't really have any kind of preseason, you know, preparations
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  Speaker 5: or that feel of having a game in preseason. So
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  Speaker 5: I think this is a big deal. And there's nothing
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  Speaker 5: that beats the excitement of opening day, opening weekend, whatever
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  Speaker 5: you kick off weekend. They call it so many different things.
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  Speaker 3: It's opening day. I was corrected.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: It was told.
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  Speaker 5: Brian?
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  Speaker 3: It's not the home opener. It's opening day.
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  Speaker 5: Opening day.
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  Speaker 3: Opening day.
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  Speaker 5: Now, the league called it a couple years ago, kickoff weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Did that get thrown out the window?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the person that told me, who you know very,
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  Speaker 3: very well, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's listening
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  Speaker 3: right now, but told me in very strict terms, it
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  Speaker 3: is opening day.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Get it right. I'm good with opening day. It's opening
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  Speaker 3: day 37 for you, I think, if I go back
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  Speaker 3: to your rookie season. Yeah, that's about right. 33 for me,
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  Speaker 3: and the head coach joins us right now. Hey, Liam,
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  Speaker 3: how are you? Good. How's it going? Good. Good. How
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  Speaker 3: was your August since we were just catching up with you?
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  Speaker 3: It was good, man.
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  Speaker 4: It was playing football again.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, that's what you're waiting to do all summer.
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  Speaker 6: You get away from it and enjoy that time. But
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  Speaker 6: you start getting the itch. And I think these guys,
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  Speaker 6: they handled camp the right way. I think there was growth.
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  Speaker 6: There was adversity.
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  Speaker 4: We got punched in the mouth. and had to respond.
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  Speaker 4: And I think they did.
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  Speaker 6: They responded in some ways that as a staff, you
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  Speaker 6: can be, you can feel good about still nowhere near,
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  Speaker 6: you know, a finished product. And that's why we need
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  Speaker 6: every practice we can get. And so I was appreciative
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  Speaker 6: of the work though, this summer.
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  Speaker 5: How do you, how do you balance? Because this week
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  Speaker 5: there are so many emotions, you know, you got anxiety
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  Speaker 5: because of the unknowns of week one, but then you
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  Speaker 5: also have the excitement of, of, hey, look, we're going
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  Speaker 5: to find out who and what we are.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: As we watched last night in the game, look, there's
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  Speaker 6: so much anxiety just in terms of going and playing
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  Speaker 6: a different opponent. And as you mentioned, the unknown of
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  Speaker 6: we don't really quite know what they're going to do
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  Speaker 6: in all three phases, really. I mean, you've got new coordinators,
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  Speaker 6: new scheme. We don't have their tape.
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  Speaker 4: They have ours. That's the reality.
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  Speaker 6: But our style of play and the way that these
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  Speaker 6: guys come out and play on Sunday, that's what you're
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  Speaker 6: looking for. It may not be– it doesn't have to
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  Speaker 6: be perfect, but it does have to be violent. And
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  Speaker 6: for us to play, that's our brand of football, and
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  Speaker 6: that's really our only way of really operating is we've
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  Speaker 6: got to go and be a physical, tough.
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  Speaker 4: Finishing unit.
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  Speaker 6: And it's not going to maybe always look the prettiest
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  Speaker 6: and be the tightest of execution. We want to get
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  Speaker 6: to that point. But we're also talking about week one.
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  Speaker 6: We're not a finished product yet. And so you want
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  Speaker 6: to see the style of play show up.
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  Speaker 5: When you talk to your football team, you always mention
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  Speaker 5: that term, we need to find our edge. And individually,
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  Speaker 5: you need to find your edge. And when you talk
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  Speaker 5: about being a violent football team, I love the way
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  Speaker 5: last year your run defense just, I mean, just dominated.
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  Speaker 5: And when you talk about being a violent kind of team,
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  Speaker 5: one guy in particular kind of stands out to that,
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  Speaker 5: and the guy's name is Matt Dickerson. Yeah. And, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: he kind of exemplifies that, I think, for your football team.
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  Speaker 5: He's not a star, okay, but he's one of those
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  Speaker 5: guys that matters.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, God, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: When you watched his evolution of we go to the
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  Speaker 6: Miami joint, and he pops. He stood out right off
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  Speaker 6: the beginning of one-on-ones, and then you watch some of
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  Speaker 6: his preseason work, and you're like, okay, man, there's something here,
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  Speaker 6: and then he gets in here, and he's on the
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  Speaker 6: practice squad, and he is beating the heck out of
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  Speaker 6: our guys up front for however many weeks it was, five,
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  Speaker 6: six weeks or something before he really became active and
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  Speaker 6: got going, and he's got Such heavy hands and strong hands.
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  Speaker 6: And he plays this game the way that we like
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  Speaker 6: to play it and the way that the game really
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  Speaker 6: should be played.
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  Speaker 4: In its essence.
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  Speaker 6: And he definitely is a model for our brand of football,
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  Speaker 6: the character, our football character, the care factor, how much
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  Speaker 6: he puts into it, how much he cares about his
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  Speaker 6: teammates and doing the right thing for his teammates. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: a lot of the plays that our guys are able
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  Speaker 6: to make on the second and third levels coming downhill
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  Speaker 6: are because of Dickey and some of the things he's
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  Speaker 6: able to do.
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  Speaker 4: At the point of attack.
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  Speaker 6: And so definitely an unsung hero of this team and
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  Speaker 6: looking forward to watching him on Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: You know, if I wasn't mistaken, some of the things
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  Speaker 3: that you just said about Matt Dickerson are the exact
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  Speaker 3: same things you guys have talked about with Emmanuel Pregnon.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Heavy hands, attacks it, other side of the ball.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely.
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  Speaker 3: You talk about playing violently. You need both sides.
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: The play style is for everybody, right?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, it's when we against, you know, Carolina and Tampa
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  Speaker 6: and those two joints specifically, our offensive line, I'm not
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  Speaker 6: able to be at both fields at the same time, obviously,
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  Speaker 6: during that setting. But you look at those settings that
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  Speaker 6: we were in, and our offensive line set the tone
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  Speaker 6: in both of those joints right from the beginning. And
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  Speaker 6: it started in one-on-ones, and it carried over into the
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  Speaker 6: first early parts of team. And it carried on throughout
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  Speaker 6: those team settings. And Emmanuel has done a great job
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  Speaker 6: of learning the system, Is he going to maybe have
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  Speaker 6: some mistakes on Sunday? Yeah, that may happen. He's a
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  Speaker 6: rookie playing in his first NFL game. But thus far,
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  Speaker 6: the stage has not been too big. He's fitting great
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  Speaker 6: with the guys in the room. And he has, like
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  Speaker 6: you mentioned, the hand strength. And he does a great
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  Speaker 6: job of getting his hands inside. He's not a clamper, over-the-top,
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  Speaker 6: shoulder pad. Hands are all over the place. He does
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  Speaker 6: a fantastic job, again, his hands inside, tight hands, and
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  Speaker 6: he can sit down.
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  Speaker 4: And he can sit down on a.
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  Speaker 6: Bull, and he can move people at the point of attack.
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  Speaker 6: And so I've been very pleased with his progress. But
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  Speaker 6: like Hainsey and Ezra, inside in terms of, all right,
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  Speaker 6: when we throw a pass five to seven yards down
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  Speaker 6: the field, we better be covering down. And that's a
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  Speaker 6: standard in which we hold. to go get a block,
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  Speaker 6: clean something up on the pile, and help our guys
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  Speaker 6: up off the ground. And I think Emmanuel's taken to
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  Speaker 6: that culture.
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  Speaker 5: He's one of those guys, and I've played against a
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  Speaker 5: few of them. There wasn't a ton of them. After
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  Speaker 5: the game, you get in the locker room, you go
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  Speaker 5: take a shower, and you go to just comb your hair,
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  Speaker 5: and all of a sudden you've got bruise marks all
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  Speaker 5: right up in here because they're not just grabbing jersey
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  Speaker 5: and pads.
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  Speaker 4: Totally.
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  Speaker 5: They're grabbing your entire pecs.
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  Speaker 4: Totally.
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  Speaker 5: Just strong-handed guys.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: First game, I think there's always a, a little bit
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  Speaker 5: of a learning curve about a first game, at least
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  Speaker 5: in my experience is that the realization that there are
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  Speaker 5: so many ebbs and flows in a game and that it's,
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  Speaker 5: it's not always going to be perfect. It's not always
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  Speaker 5: going to be bad and that you've got to be
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  Speaker 5: able to go through the ups and downs for 60 minutes.
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  Speaker 5: And that that's, that's hard in it for the first game.
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  Speaker 6: It is because momentum's we've talked about momentum a lot
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  Speaker 6: and you can ride those emotions at times and ride
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  Speaker 6: those momentum waves, um, but you can't get caught up
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  Speaker 6: in them, right? Somebody's got to be able to get
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  Speaker 6: us out of trouble in ways. There's going to be adversity.
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  Speaker 6: There's going to be a bad play or a bad
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  Speaker 6: sequence or a bad quarter, whatever it is.
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  Speaker 4: That is coming. We are all aware of that.
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  Speaker 6: It's how we respond to it and then not maybe
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  Speaker 6: make so much of those moments, right? It's like this
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  Speaker 6: game is 60 minutes for a reason, and I think
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  Speaker 6: we've learned some of those lessons in the past We're
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  Speaker 6: not trying to live in the past, but we can
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  Speaker 6: learn from those experiences. And it showed up early on
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  Speaker 6: in the New Orleans joint for us, really, in terms
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  Speaker 6: of not being able to gain a yard for like
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  Speaker 6: our first five to ten plays. And then, okay, nobody
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  Speaker 6: freaked out. I wasn't yelling and, you know, getting down
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  Speaker 6: in the dumps.
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  Speaker 4: The players weren't either. And then we go to the red.
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  Speaker 6: Zone and ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Good things happen,
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  Speaker 6: and we get back on track. And that is what
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  Speaker 6: we're looking for in this first game is, Guys, miss you.
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  Speaker 6: will happen let's make them 100 miles an hour if
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  Speaker 6: when we do it's going to happen but let's also
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  Speaker 6: not lose our wits here and understand that we have
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  Speaker 6: to have a next play next next uh series next
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  Speaker 6: quarter mentality and just go play our tails off for
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  Speaker 6: 60 minutes and see.
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  Speaker 3: What happens One quick thought then. What does success look
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  Speaker 3: like for you running the ball on Sunday? I know
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  Speaker 3: that's been a point of emphasis for you since the
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  Speaker 3: last season ended, and we've talked about it in the
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  Speaker 3: backs and the offensive line. How will people know that
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  Speaker 3: you're happy and successful with what you see?
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  Speaker 4: I think.
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  Speaker 6: Efficiency, less volume maybe. Efficiency, volume not covering up for efficiency.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to run it.
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  Speaker 6: 30 plus times for a hundred yards. You know, we
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  Speaker 6: hit a hundred yards, but our, our yards per, we're
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  Speaker 6: not really there yet.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 6: And we, we need to be able to be more
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  Speaker 6: efficient within the ops that we have and limit some
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  Speaker 6: of those two yarders, one yarders that we had at
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  Speaker 6: times towards the back half of the year.
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  Speaker 4: Um, the standard does have to be four yards.
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  Speaker 6: Like that has to be the minimum of what we
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  Speaker 6: gain on our run. Is there going to be some
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  Speaker 6: negatives or yes, it could happen. We're trying to mitigate
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  Speaker 6: those and limit some of those. And, um, you know,
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  Speaker 6: Targeting is a big part of that, like being at
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  Speaker 6: the right spots, having the right targeting and communication. I'm
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  Speaker 6: looking for that, which may not the average fan may
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  Speaker 6: not see. But that tells us we're on the same page, right?
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  Speaker 6: And then we obviously have to execute those blocks and
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  Speaker 6: those combinations, and the backs have to hit the holes,
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  Speaker 6: and it takes all 11. But looking for a better
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  Speaker 6: outcome in terms of yards per carry, and efficiency and
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  Speaker 6: not just all right we ran it 30 plus times
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  Speaker 6: for 100 yards or so and yes we hit the
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  Speaker 6: 100 yard mark but we're really not efficient where we
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  Speaker 6: need to be.
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  Speaker 5: For uh for you at the beginning of and this
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  Speaker 5: is from the hunt series which people love on youtube
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  Speaker 5: and i got my dad addicted to he loves it
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  Speaker 5: The first episode that you spoke to your football team,
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  Speaker 5: you talked about anyone, anytime, anywhere. This season, you guys,
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  Speaker 5: and part of the reason you have that is that, look,
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  Speaker 5: you're playing games in different places. You got six opportunities
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  Speaker 5: here at Everbank, and on Sunday, it's home field advantage time.
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  Speaker 5: How cool is it to be able to play the
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  Speaker 5: first game at home with the fan base?
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  Speaker 4: It's huge.
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  Speaker 6: It's everything for us in terms of The ops that
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  Speaker 6: we have here in this city are limited, as we
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  Speaker 6: all know.
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  Speaker 4: And to be.
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  Speaker 6: Back here after, obviously, the last time out there wasn't
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  Speaker 6: our best effort. And we all know that and want
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  Speaker 6: to show our fan base that we're capable of more.
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  Speaker 6: And we want to continue to try to make them proud.
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  Speaker 6: And we need this fan base out here as loud
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  Speaker 6: as humanly possible. obviously while they have the ball, not
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  Speaker 6: when we do, and create an atmosphere that people don't
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  Speaker 6: want to come in here.
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  Speaker 4: It's going to be hot. Yes, I know.
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  Speaker 6: Please come out and try to go indoor and enjoy
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  Speaker 6: it because it's limited seats. It's limited capacity. It's a
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  Speaker 6: tougher ticket to get now. And we need everybody. We
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  Speaker 6: need all 40,000 to be in there, packing it in,
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  Speaker 6: and creating an environment that makes it challenging on the
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  Speaker 6: Cleveland Browns. We all know what that can be and
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  Speaker 6: how that can affect an opposing team. And so we're
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  Speaker 6: excited to get back in the bank, and I know
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  Speaker 6: our players.
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  Speaker 4: Are juiced up.
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  Speaker 3: And let's leave it on that. Coach, thanks so much
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  Speaker 3: for your time.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate you guys having me on.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate you. Head Coach Liam Cohen. We'll take a
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  Speaker 3: break and come back. You're listening to Jags HQ on
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  Speaker 3: the Jaguars Radio Network.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back. Jags HQ continues right now.
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  Speaker 7: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks to head coach Liam Cohen for dropping in for
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  Speaker 3: a segment. Tony Pacelli is here. So is James Gladstone
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  Speaker 3: talking Jaguars football and the home opener Sunday, 1 0
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  Speaker 3: 3 Eastern time kickoff. And of course you'll hear all
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  Speaker 3: of it right here on 10 10 XL 92.5 and
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  Speaker 3: all the Jaguars social channels. Tony James, how are you?
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  Speaker 7: I'm good.
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  Speaker 3: What do you want to talk about opening day?
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  Speaker 2: Tone, what do you think the most important game in.
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  Speaker 7: The history of the franchise? What is the most important
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  Speaker 7: game in the history of the franchise coming up? 1
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  Speaker 7: o'clock Sunday. This is– 103, but same thing.
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  Speaker 3: This is 32 opening days for you in the National
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  Speaker 3: Football League, I believe?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Still the same? I mean, you're not playing, obviously, but
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  Speaker 3: still the same excitement level for opening day?
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  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah. Can't wait. I mean, it's– I mean, even
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  Speaker 7: last night, I mean, I can't stay up– through the
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  Speaker 7: whole game anymore because we've got to get up in
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  Speaker 7: the morning. But just the excitement of having the NFL
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  Speaker 7: back and real games that count, keep and score, you know,
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  Speaker 7: it matters. And the fact that we get to go
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  Speaker 7: do that, because you don't really know what you are
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  Speaker 7: as a team until you go play a real game.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, you have a sense of it. You go
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  Speaker 7: through camp. You have an idea of what you want
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  Speaker 7: to be and the type of play style and all
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  Speaker 7: the things that Liam has talked about. But you don't
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  Speaker 7: know until you go do it. until there's another opponent
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  Speaker 7: across from you, you're keeping score, and it matters. And
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  Speaker 7: the first time we get to do that is the
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  Speaker 7: 2026 Jaguars is Sunday, and I can't wait.
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  Speaker 5: Something about the moment that you stand on the sideline
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  Speaker 5: for the national anthem, and you know what? You just
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  Speaker 5: realize that it's about to get real. And it's always
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  Speaker 5: that way as a player, too, kind of that moment.
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  Speaker 5: And even to this day, I still have that same
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  Speaker 5: kind of emotion for the National Anthem, and it's, you know,
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  Speaker 5: first of all, the National Anthem itself, but it's what's next.
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  Speaker 5: And you know that what is next is a high
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  Speaker 5: level of intensity in battle that is just something that
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  Speaker 5: you just relish. It's amazing. It's an amazing feeling even
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  Speaker 5: to this day. And the only thing that sucks about
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  Speaker 5: it now is that I can't go bang heads after
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  Speaker 5: the National Anthem.
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  Speaker 3: He tried it in the booth, but it just got
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  Speaker 3: too much.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't work.
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  Speaker 7: I'll say this. I mean, Jeff, you're right. I mean,
• 16:35
  Speaker 7: it's not just... It's getting to the stadium. It's walking
• 16:40
  Speaker 7: out on the grass, getting your pads on, looking around
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: the locker room.
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: Taping your ankles.
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: I was telling James, the offensive line, we're sitting there
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: grinding because we know if we make one bad play,
• 16:52
  Speaker 7: it's the end of the world. I look over at
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: the defensive linemen, they're all hanging out. jacking around having
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: a good time because they know they only have to
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: make one play right and they had a great game
• 17:00
  Speaker 7: and so you know talk about two different worlds we.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Live in i mean he went on a nice.
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: I went on a whole ramp i've heard this a
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: few times.
• 17:07
  Speaker 7: I have too i think we can each do it
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: but uh but then you walk out and you hear
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: the strength coach go time to come up last comments
• 17:18
  Speaker 7: and you walk out on that field for the first
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: time and you walk through the tunnel and whether you're
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: getting called out or not you come up as a
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: team and And then you go to the sideline, coin toss.
• 17:26
  Speaker 7: And as Jeff's right, the National Anthem's playing. And I'd
• 17:30
  Speaker 7: always look for the guy. Because back when we played,
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: the top defensive ends played 85% of the snaps. I mean,
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: there wasn't a rotation as much as now. I mean,
• 17:40
  Speaker 7: Josh Hines-Allen and Trayvon play a high percentage of snaps,
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: but even higher back then. And so you go find
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: that individual that you're going to be matched up with.
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: Because the way I looked at it was.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: It was Sean Jones for your first start, right?
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: First start was Sean Jones.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Sunday night?
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: And you realize that it's going to be... I viewed
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: it as a... It's a one-on-one fight that we're getting
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: ready to walk into. And the anxiety and the butterflies
• 18:05
  Speaker 7: and the nerves and everything going on. There's... At times
• 18:10
  Speaker 7: as a player, you're almost like you didn't... It's not
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: that you didn't like it, but that discomfort. You're like, God,
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: I wish I was not so anxious for this moment.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: You're trying to control breathing and stuff.
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: But then all of a sudden, it's taken away. And
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: I would pay a lot of money to have that.
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: Because there's nothing else in life that creates that moment.
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: At least I've not found anything else. And in that moment,
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: and what's fun, it's not the same in what... For me,
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: what I do now, there's some proximity to it. I
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: feel the excitement and the anxiety. But at the same time,
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: I know what those players feel. And there's nothing like
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: it in the world.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's the worst for Tony nowadays. He has no
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: control over what's going on.
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so now if I sit up there with James
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: and Shad and Tony and we sit there and getting
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: ready for the game, I'm like, this is like, man,
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: I wish I could be out there to try to
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: control something.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Were you usually stuck in the elevator during? Parts of
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: the national anthem because we're making sure that we're coming
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: from downstairs before we exit. Nonetheless, don't get to experience
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: that to the fullest degree anymore in terms of the,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: let's say, cloak of we're walking into the game now.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: But I know for his sake, it's definitely quite a
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: different dynamic these days.
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: There's an intensity too. I mean, it's just the whole thing.
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: So that's a long way of saying.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: And both James and I know we feel it too
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: because there's not a lot of words– You walk into
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: the booth, it's quiet. After you say hello and, you know,
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: say a couple things back and forth with Sean and
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: Tony just to, you know, kick things off about the game.
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: But once that game's it's sitting there just watching because
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: you're everyone is invested so much and you know what
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: our players have invested and we know what our coaches
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: have invested in our support staff in our scouts not
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: just for that week but what they've invested for the
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: entire lead up from the end of the season until
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: that moment and And you know you only get 17 chances.
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: That's the only thing we're guaranteed is 17 opportunities. We
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: had to go earn those extra ones. And they all matter.
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: And it's quite a moment. And so that kicks off
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: this Sunday. And what else would you want to do?
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: And where else would you want to be but in
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: that stadium? To experience it.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: I wish this was the last segment of the show.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Because you just send everybody through the moon. If you're
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: not excited now, folks, wait until Sunday afternoon. Let's take
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: a break. We'll come back. Another segment with Tony and James.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Fired up for football. 103 kickoff Sunday afternoon. Jaguars and
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Browns here at Everbank Stadium. It goes without saying, you
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: need to be there. And we'll be back on Jaguars Radio.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Welcome back. Jags HQ continues right now.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Rolling right along on a Thursday evening. Football tonight in Australia.
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: Down under.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: It's opening day down under.
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: 10.30 in the morning tomorrow.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Which is tonight at 8.30 here.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: Kind of weird, right?
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, listen.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: London doesn't seem like that far when you talk about
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: flying 16 hours.
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: It would be further for us to get there than
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: the West Coast teams.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: And I think the Rams just landed about 20 minutes ago, right?
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: They're going right there.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Right to the game.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: It took a similar approach against us in London.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: It worked out okay.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: It worked out all right.
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: And James and I have talked a lot about this.
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: We've been tracking the whole thing, what both teams do.
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: And obviously, we've got to be over there a week
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: because we're playing two games. And it'll be interesting to
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: see the approach and how it plays out. I think
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: both of us are probably in the camp of the
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: better team wins.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: Typically.
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: Typically.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You want to find whatever edge you possibly can.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: It's certainly going to be, because it's such drastically different approaches,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: it's a great test of sports science, but at the
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: same time you've got to factor in.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Have you been to Australia?
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: I've been to New Zealand, not Australia.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: So I've been to Australia, and what I found was
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: coming back, that's where you're going to know who did
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: it right.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of what the Rams approach is actually
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: rooted in, so that you don't have to re-acclimate. for
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: the next game or the next slate of games.
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they're basically optimizing for two games, trying to optimize
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: for two games. Okay.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Because I remember it took almost 10 days to feel
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: normal again coming back. Going over wasn't that bad. Coming
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: back was a challenge.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I was 30 years old when we did it.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I was fairly young, and it still took time.
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: Most of the players probably feel better than the staff then.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, probably so.
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: The funny thing is they'll– Basically, equal time on the
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: ground as they are in the air.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: That's about right, because it was like 16 hours over.
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: It was 15, because we tracked it.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: 28 hours plus three.
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: It was 15 hours. So, it's called 15 hours, but
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: a little slower going back because of the wind.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: 31 there and then.
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: So, it's 31 hours, and they're there for about 30 hours.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah. That's crazy.
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: Isn't that great?
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: It's awesome.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Well, listen.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: My brother-in-law lives in Melbourne, and he's going with a
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: group of people. And they're all excited. I mean, there's
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: an energy about it. So American football, international, buckle up.
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: So it'll be fun to watch tonight and see how
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: it goes.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: What kind of beer do you drink down in Australia?
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Foster's.
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: Foster's?
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Well, the Australians probably drink something much more refined than Foster's.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: Just checking.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: You're sponsored by Corona, though, so let's stay on track.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: All right, all right, all right.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: So a question for you guys, because... In the preseason,
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: a lot of times when you have practice and you
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: have games, you always get these impressions to where you
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: think you know. But is there an area that you
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: just don't know, that you just want to see it
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: live where it counts? Because you're just not, you know,
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying that you're pessimistic or optimistic, but you
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: just don't know.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Look, ultimately, I think you want to see the full
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: picture in an authentic setting and, you know, to date.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Whether it's a joint or a preseason game, we have
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: yet to get that. Ultimately, a single game that we
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: have here right off the jump isn't going to tell
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: us the full story because the best teams continue to
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: evolve and grow over the course of a season. Ultimately,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: what I think we'll want to see is much of
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: what's a response look like to the best moments that
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: come with this upcoming game and the worst moments that
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: are unfolding in real time. Those will tell us a lot.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: about who we are just innately and what we've grown
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: to become but ultimately it'll tell us what we need
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: to continue to lean into or focus on moving forward
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: and so I think the full picture is certainly something
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: that has yet to truly show itself and that's for
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: every team because it's not been anything but you know
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: preparation and the preseason games in those joints are are
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: nothing but that and this is the first authentic exposure.
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: And I think you know we probably have a good
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: idea of if you broke down by position or player.
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: Because you see that. Those groups work in joint practices
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: against each other. And you see how they perform. And
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: so you have a good sense, call it at the
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: micro level, of what guys can, can not do, strengths,
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: weaknesses across the board.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Think of the lies and the truths from a training
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: camp a year ago.
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: That's exactly right. But what you don't know, And James
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: hit on it is the response. So we have not
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: seen this team. What happens up with the sudden change?
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: We have a bad play turnover. Something goes against us.
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: How does the other side of the ball or they score?
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: We get behind. How does the team respond? Or if
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: we get a lead and it's going good, can we finish?
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: We had to learn that the hard way last year.
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: And so these are all things within the flow of
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: a game. Like we talked about, and I think unanimously
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: we'd say the last two joints, we were the more physical, dominant,
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: whatever you want to call it. That does not mean
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: we would have won a game if we played against
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: either of those teams. It was just in that setting
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: in practice and situational football that was set up and
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: manufactured for both teams to get an evaluation of their units,
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: we felt like we were more physical. That's all that means.
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: It does not mean we would have beat those two teams,
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: because who knows the flow of a game and who
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: makes the play when it matters the most, when it's
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: on the line. We don't know. Maybe Baker Mayfield, just
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: when we did the break, scrambled and broke out of
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: every one of those opportunities we thought was a sack
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: and hit guys down the field. And vice versa in
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: New Orleans, where we would probably unanimously say that they
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: got the better of that joint. That doesn't mean they
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: would have beaten us. Because we have no idea. That's
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: the beauty of the game of football. There are plenty
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: of games that I have played, and I know Jeff
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: would say the same, where we felt like we did
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: not win the day or win every quarter. But when
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: it counted at the last minute, we put a drive
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: together or got a.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Stop, or we got lucky.
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: 96 Atlanta, a Hall of Fame kicker, misses a chip
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: shot after neither side of the ball played well that day.
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: And next thing you know, you're in the playoffs and
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: you make a run. And so that's the beauty of
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: the game of football. And that's what's so exciting about
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: opening day. Because you don't know. And James is the
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: first to say it because, you know, I'll either get
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: mad or too excited about something. He says, well, do
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: we really know yet?
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Who's to say what's good or bad?
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: And I'm like, you're right.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: Well, and part of what you don't know also is
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: related to the opponent this week. I mean, you've got to.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: No idea. Yeah.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: A new coach, you know, and new coaches, for that matter,
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: on both sides of the ball. And then you have
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: a quarterback who essentially hasn't played football, meaningful football, in
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: almost two years. I mean, that's got to be a
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: little bit of a source of anxiety there.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you think about it, they're in a
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: similar situation to where we found ourselves a year ago, right?
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: New offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, special teams coordinator. First time
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: head coach. Yeah, those are going to be unscouted. looks
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: and in reality that makes things a little more simple
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: for us and that hey we're going to lean into
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: what we do and focus on what we do and
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: it's about us those types of states of mind right
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: start to settle in and you know you can almost
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: overanalyze some of the weak ones that go on from
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: one year to the next because you got such a
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: long runway to prepare for it and the fact that
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: you don't have anything to look at actually Makes it
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: a little bit more simplistic in some instances.
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: And I think you also look at it, you know, everyone,
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: you know, say whatever, you know, positive, negative, indifferent about
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: our opponent. Here's the reality. They have a lot of
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: good players over there.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they do.
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: Because there's a lot of players on that team that
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: have had a lot of success. Deshaun Watson, say what
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: you want. And he's had a tough four years, injuries,
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: all the stuff that's gone. That's a guy who's won
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: a lot of football games. And is a very talented individual.
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: You look at the young guys they've brought in. Those
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: are all guys that we thought held in high regard.
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: You look at that defense, Jared Verst, James knows well.
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: Did pretty good against us last year. We got one
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: of the better corners. I mean, that's a talented football team.
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: Todd Munkin, he was here. He's a good football coach.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: Good dude.
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: Good offensive football coach.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Rudy was here.
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: Here trained under guys and were part of defenses that
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: were really really good and so these like like so
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: you just don't know right and that's the fun part
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: that's the excitement that's the like the competitor in all
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: of us Want to go out there? Let's go compete
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: and let's go find out. Because you don't know until
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: you roll the ball out there and go play.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Last words.
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: We got to go.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: 103 kickoff, Sunday afternoon, Jags, Browns, Everbank Stadium. Thanks for
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: your time. Appreciate it.
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: Fire it up.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Ready to go.
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: Let's go.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Here we go. You want to be there, folks. Sunday
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: at 1 o'clock, the Jags and the Browns. And Jeff
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: and I are back to continue the conversation after this
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: on the Jaguars Radio Network.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Welcome back. Jags HQ continues right now.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: Time for your UF Health injury report brought to you
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: by UF Health, the official health care provider for your
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Jacksonville Jaguars. And in the first hour of this program,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: I was corrected. So I will just say that there
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: are three names on the injury report, and I'll let
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: you guess. Pass your own judgment on how healthy the
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Jaguars are, Jeff Loggaman. LeQuint Allen Jr., limited today. Wide
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: receiver Jacoby Myers, limited today. Cole Van Lannen, limited today.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: For the Cleveland Browns, you had Malik Collins, who's their
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: starting defensive tackle, limited for the second straight day with
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: a quad. And guard Tevin Jenkins with a back. He
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: was limited yesterday, and he did not practice today.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: Which is, I think that's a pretty big sign. So
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: they could end up turning to a local guy. Third-round pick,
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: Austin Barber from Florida.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Trinity Christian, I believe.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so about to wait and kind of see there. But,
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, look, the Jaguars are pretty healthy overall.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: You said that, not me.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: Just remember. I've gotten– well, I've gotten– you go back
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: to Jacoby Myers and you listen to the comments that
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: Liam had in the last week of preseason saying, hey, look,
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: if it were a game, he would go. So I
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: feel good about him being a veteran guy, even though
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: he's on the injury report. The Quinn Allen Jr., that's
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: a little bit different story there. And Cole Van Lannen,
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: I'm kind of in the middle on that, you know?
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Kind of in the middle in terms of whether you
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: would play him or whether he'll play.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: Well, whether he'll play and whether I'd play him. I
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: think on both of those parts. And number one is that, look,
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: it's a long season, so let's make sure that he's 100%
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: and comfortable, has more reps under his belt. The other
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: guy's had a bunch of reps. He's been going. You know,
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: so I think that's probably the most intriguing. Like, look,
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: Quentin Allen, what, yesterday didn't practice, today was limited. I
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: think that may be kind of a surprise if he goes,
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: but Cole Van Landen, I really, I don't know which
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: way it's going to go. Jacoby, though, I feel like
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: he's going to be fine.
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  Speaker 3: If Cole says he wants to play, does that factor
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  Speaker 3: into it, or do you almost have to be cautious
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  Speaker 3: for him?
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: Well, I think definitely the medical advice or the medical
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: opinion is going to overrule anything that Cole Van Lannen says. Okay.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: But if he's at that period of time where, okay, hey, look,
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: we feel good about it, then it's kind of an opinion.
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: And what do we do? And how many reps has
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: he had? How has he looked? So we'll have to
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: wait and see on that one.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: All right, Jaguars and Browns, 103 kickoff. We'll get things
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: started at 10 a.m. locally in Jacksonville on 1010XL and 92.5,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: and of course the Jaguars social channels. And then the
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: network broadcast starts with a pregame show at noon, kickoff
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: at 1.03. Folks, Jaguars ready to play ball. If you
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: didn't hear Tony Buscelli about 10 minutes ago, rewind it
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: and listen to him talk the virtues. I mean, it's
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: almost like, oh, who was it that did that piece
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: about the Jaguars before the.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: The 2017 AFC title game. The actor... Anyway, I'm off
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: on a tangent.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: I can't remember.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: It was that cool video. He was ranting about it,
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: and it was awesome, so you'll want to hear it.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: We'll take a break. We'll come back. More of Jags
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: HQ with Jeff Loggaman after this quick timeout on Jaguars Radio.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Welcome back. Jags HQ continues right now.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Ready for football. We are. Tonight, we'll probably be watching
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: on Netflix the San Francisco 49ers and Los Angeles Rams.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: It'll be night here. It'll be morning there. It'll be
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: a lot of fun.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: Do you got somebody you know going to the game?
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Well, my brother-in-law lives there, yeah. So brother-in-law, nephews are
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: down there. They've been down there a long time. So
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: they have told us.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: What's the stadium that they're playing at?
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: The Melbourne Cricket Ground. You asked me how many it seats.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It's massive. It's massive.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: So I'm guessing it's easily 90,000. Yeah, I was going
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: to say 90,000. Yeah, more than that. Wow. Going to
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: be an atmosphere for sure. And then the Rams are
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: going to race to get on their plane and fly
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: back home as quickly as possible. I'm sure the Niners
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: are too.
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: Well, it's just crazy.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Being that far away from home for that long. They
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: were there for 10 days.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's the one thing I think, and I
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: totally understand Sean McVay's thing, is that you're trying not
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: to adapt to a new time zone because it's hard
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: to adapt. And then also it's harder to adapt once
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: you come back. So it's kind of twofold.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: And then also when you fly in like they did
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: to London last year, it's about business. It's football, in
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: and out. Whereas the 49ers, I'm sure, were maybe enjoying
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: some of the sights and sounds of Australia.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Which I would. Listen, it's a fabulous country. I have
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: to tell you, I had a conversation with Tom Islinski yesterday.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: I want to say 2019, we were going to Denver
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: and I asked him about the science of it. And
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: he said with Denver, cause you're talking about elevation, right? 53,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: 5,400 feet in elevation from sea level. He said, you
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: want to go in and you want to be there
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: fewer than 24 hours or longer than 48. So in
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: other words, you got to go in on, if you
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: want to maximize your ability to play your best, you
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: have to go in at the very last minute. You know,
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: NFL has a rule about how long you have to
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: be on the ground. They want teams there. 24 hours
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: before kickoff, they want the team with their feet on
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: the ground.
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: Rams got there how many hours before kickoff? I think
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: it was 28.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, just by the skin of their teeth.
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: So they're going to be there roughly 33, let's say
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: 33 hours. And that's it.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: And they've, listen, you know them. James just told you
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: the research that they've done on that one. And Tony
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: said they've been tracking it so clearly. You know, they're
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: trying to make sure that they understand the dynamics of it.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: You might learn something from someone else. But I also
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: remember Tom saying, listen, you've got to go in for
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: less than 24 or you've got to be there for
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: more than 48. It's that in-between that gets you.
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: I think it's just interesting, though, the different approaches that
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: you have. And at the end of the day, sometimes,
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: and this has kind of been standard throughout history, Good
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: teams travel well. Bad teams don't.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Well, that's ultimately it, right? Right. The best team is
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: going to win.
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: Right. But, you know, in this case, you know, both
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: teams are pretty good for tonight's game.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: I'm really interested to see the Rams with that defense. Now,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Aaron Donald's not playing, obviously. No, that's a little disappointing.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, but, you know, it's kind of like Van
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Landen a little bit, right? I mean, it's a long season.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: Where do you feel comfortable about where he's at from a–
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: Conditioning standpoint and a ready-to-go standpoint.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: But they still have a stacked defensive line, even without him.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, you've got Kobe Turner and Byron Young and
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Miles Garrett. And who's the big defensive tackle from Florida State?
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: Oh, gosh.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: They are loaded. They are absolutely stacked. But putting Miles
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Garrett on that defense, it's the first time in NFL
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: history that you've had the NFL MVP and the defensive
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: MVP on the same squad.
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: And it's going to be interesting watching Miles Garrett because
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: of the lack of practice that he's had in training
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: camp with that knee issue that he's had.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Did you see the video, though, of him sitting on
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: a bench and jumping on top of those? He jumped
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: onto boxes. And it was literally, he didn't even stop
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: and squat and jump. It's like he just leapt off
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: the bench.
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: He is... One of the greatest freaks of nature that
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: I have ever seen play the game.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: That's the word.
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: We need another break. We'll come back. More with Jeff Loggins.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Some final thoughts. We'll talk about the Browns defense. Mike Rutenberg,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: a guy that we know well, is bringing the Browns
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: in here. And we're back after this on Jaguars Radio.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Welcome back. Jags HQ continues right now.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Final 10 minutes of the program. Brian Sexton along with
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Jeff Loggins. And we have mentioned this several times, but
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: to We don't know what Brown's defensive coordinator, Mike Rutenberg,
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: is going to unveil in terms of specifics with Brown's defense.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: But we know him. He was here for a number
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: of years. Seven seasons in Jacksonville. One of the longer
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: tenured assistants.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: Met his wife here, too, by the way.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Jacksonville is very, very good to him.
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a super guy.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he is.
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: Super nice guy.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: He went with Robert Sala to the Jets.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, always kind of, every time we'd see him on
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: the road and everything, we'd always... have a conversation with
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: him just because he was one of my favorites.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Last year was in Atlanta.
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: There was a lot of question marks about what the
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: Cleveland Browns were going to do because Jim Swartz was
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: in the interview process for the head job and was
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: a candidate. There was some speculation, well, if he didn't
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: get the job, would he just blow everything off and say, no,
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: I'm not coming back as a defensive coordinator? Well, he didn't.
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: But there are like six or seven coaches that are
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: still on the Cleveland Browns staff that were with Jim Schwartz.
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: And so I think it's a little carryover from what
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: they were doing to what they're going to be doing
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: with Rutenberg. So I think there's some things that they
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: can pull from last year. And then... I don't want
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: to say that they're guessing, but they're going to be
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: pretty educated on some of the areas that he comes
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: from to be able to maybe know what he's going
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: to do game day.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: So, I don't even know how to ask this. It's
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: going to sound ridiculous even asking, but how different will
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: they be without Miles Garrett?
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's vastly different. You're talking about, and we were
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: just actually looking at the numbers.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Because Jared Versus is a really good player.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: Well, Jared Versus is not Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett is
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: just a freak. I mean, he's a generational player. I mean,
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: he's right up there with Reggie White and Bruce Smith.
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's up there with Lawrence Taylor. I mean,
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: he's up there in that class of, what did Dion
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: call that? The upper room?
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: The upper room.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's one of those upper room guys. And
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: I think he's got, what, 125 and a half sacks
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: in 10 years or something like that. It's just a
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: crazy number. And a total freak. And so when you
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: lose a guy like that, I mean, it's a tremendous loss.
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: But The Browns, just like last year when they traded
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: the right to draft Travis Hunter to acquire picks, they
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: viewed it as something similar in that we need to
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: fix so much. We need more than just one player
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: who's a generational player, and we appreciate everything that he's done.
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: I don't know, how many picks did they get out
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: of the Miles Garrett trade?
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: I've got my head. I'll have to look it up.
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: It was a bunch. They got multiple picks, and they
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: got Jared Verse, who's a really good football player. So,
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: you know, I get where the Cleveland Browns were at
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: as far as making that decision to part ways with
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: a guy like Miles Garrett. And I think Miles Garrett
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: was ready to just move on emotionally to a different place,
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: to have a chance to win a Super Bowl. And
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: the best thing is, is that This is star power
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: moving to L.A. It's Aaron Donald coming back. There's everything
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: that's great about it.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: So the Browns received a first-round pick next year, a
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: second-round pick in 2028, and a third-rounder in 2029 plus
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Jared Verse.
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: Pretty good. Yeah.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: It helps them.
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: I get the whole part about screw them picks, but
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: I probably would have done the same thing.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah. All right, listen, we'll take our final break, come
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: back and wrap it up with Jeff Lagerman here on
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Jags HQ. Jags Brown Sunday. Be here. Everbank Stadium 103
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: kickoff on Jaguars Radio.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Welcome back. Jags HQ continues right now.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Rapidly ending, rapidly reaching. Both are the same. The end
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: of Jags HQ on a Thursday evening. Thanks again, Mark Dufter,
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: for joining us in the first hour. And Liam Cohen,
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Tony Buscelli, and James Gladstone in hour number two. I
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: had a conversation with Andy Campanile today for pregame on Sunday,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: and I asked him about Antonio Johnson, and his eyes
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: lit up.
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: He loves Antonio Johnson.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Well, and there's a lot to love there. You're talking
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: about a big guy with length, strength, and movement skills.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: And this thing I noticed about him this year, Jeff, energy. Man,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: does he bring the energy on the defensive side.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: Well, he brings the energy, but I think also he's
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: just a joy to be around. I mean, he's just
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: a great guy. And I think that's what really has
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: drawn Campanile to Antonio Johnson is just the quality of
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: the person that Antonio is, and Antonio is just such
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: a great chess piece to have if you're a defensive
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: coordinator because when you're a defensive coordinator, you can disguise
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: things naturally if you have people that can do different things,
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: and Antonio can do a lot of different things. It
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: gives him a tremendous amount of value.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: He's big enough that you hear the term dime linebacker
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: with him.
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he can play linebacker. I think he can play
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: a lot of positions. I think he can play corner.
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: We know he can play nickel. He's done that in
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: his past already. Linebacker or corner.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: That's amazing versatility.
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's how good his skill set is. And
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: I think he's got a great matchup this week with
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: Harold Fannin Jr., the Cleveland Browns tight end. It's one
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: of the better tight ends in the league. It's a
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: great matchup. But the reality is that Antonio Johnson goes
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: every day against Brenton Strange. You want to talk about
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: great prep work for Harold Fannin?
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's... That's the perfect kind of preparation you'd
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: like to have.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Let's end it on that.
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: What do they say? Iron sharpens iron.
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: Absolutely.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: And the Jaguars are sharp and ready to go Sunday
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: against the Cleveland Browns. 10 a.m. for the pregame show,
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: the Publix pregame show. Countdown to kickoff noon. Kickoff 1-0-3.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: We hope you'll join us both here in the stadium
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: and all across the state. the Jaguars Radio Network. Thanks
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: to Joe Fortunato and Brett Reber and our entire broadcast
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: team for putting on a first-class production this evening. Have
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: a great night, everybody. Talk to you on Sunday.