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Ep 264 - Saints vs Jaguars Preseason RECAP · Saints Block Party Podcast

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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hashtag no music no intro we are back the same spot party podcast coming at you brought to you and present it by precious works LLC for any of your business website needs reach out to our guy but john he will hook you up and it is that time will we actually have actual actual football things to talk about as the New Orleans Saints had their first preseason game losing it but
• 0:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we want to discuss recap it.
• 0:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're recording this really right after the game.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's jump into it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: A lot to talk about this in the first time join us on the St. Bob party podcast, I am.
• 0:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Adam co-host join by my friend and buddy Wolf aka Ryan we've called the Saints and multiple fashion of these past six plus years from pro days senior bulls combines what have you you named it we've covered in some type of fashion and we're also like the outcome of the game because the second half you had third stringer jet four stringers in there what have you
• 1:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: They got the Saints fan, the first half of this game, you should be excited in terms of what you saw, especially on the defensive side of the ball.
• 1:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like this was a preseason game.
• 1:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: You had the defensive side of the ball yet, special teams, which is a big thing, at least in terms of,
• 1:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: punting in terms of kickoff returns or is actual lanes.
• 1:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: And defensively, I remember we were watching a Saints game when they played the Texas and preseason a couple of a couple of years ago.
• 1:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then we just remember we were talking about the Texas defense under, to make a Ryan's where like the third string, the third stringer, the fourth team was just out there just falling, playing hard.
• 1:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Remember that, I remember that, yeah.
• 1:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to like, it felt like even though these were the second stringers, especially that first half of the defense for the Saints, Stanley has gotten the entire buy-in on the defense side of the ball in regards to the players.
• 2:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: You had Jalen Ford playing well, he had an interception against his game.
• 2:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: He might be on the Marco Jackson career arc.
• 2:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: You had Christian Miller who first drive was a little shaky and then kind of after that he, he was up and in was making plays and on the defensive line, you just, you had the white night or as our dude, Josh called him, the winner soldier could have interception, so many.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: They got, they got the defense as playing in sync and this is kind of like, it's, I don't say so surprising, but it matches what we've heard all training camp with this defense.
• 2:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: No question, man, I think that's the key.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Is do you want to see if it matches what you're hearing, you know, we went from the training camp to, we had the joint practice with the Jaguars, whether we're pretty feisty, and now you see it in the preseason game.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Where, yeah, like you said, man, second team, third string, think they just put in their front end of ground and they're going, you know what I'm saying?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Even players that might not, you know, be the most talented in the world.
• 3:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: You see the effort and that's all I really asked for from a defense.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like show me the effort show me that you know where to be during the play Right show me that you try to tackle show me that you play it with like passion that goes along with you Then it's so a play with defense that you saw it, but like you saw it from this difference early.
• 3:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like okay Still got these boys playing okay humming with it
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Amen.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It was, it was really good to see offensively, well, I'm honest, stay with the positives before we jump into like the offensive ball, even Michael Helman, right?
• 3:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Undrafted for Agent, paid a lot of money to secure his rights in, as Undrafted for Agent, and we hadn't really
• 3:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: heard a lot with about him in training camp, but when the lights came on, he had, I think he had two sacked or at least a second, a half this game was a plan.
• 3:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Pressure, don't know if he's gonna make the team, but went a long way in making sure that, in terms of like he might be on that fifth to three man roster.
• 4:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we talked about, we've, we've, we've talked about, like the white knight and jade and price and all that, him get like he, at this point, I'm very, fairly confident he's solidified, like a hundred percent gonna be on the team.
• 4:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: come, yeah, I literally like, I literally be literally surprised if he's not on a team.
• 4:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's been, he's one of the cap stars, like, since beginning to cap.
• 4:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: And like, he's not like you just got with the team to add them on a team last year.
• 4:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: And for him to come into cap, and just shine for the beginning, the more you do.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: real positive about them when asked about them.
• 4:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: And for him to, like, before my does in training camp, and then come to a game and play the week, play, grow like, I think now it's the point like, okay, how do we get them on the field?
• 4:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what's the, right, I just do we run and stuff like that?
• 4:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know what I'm saying?
• 4:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I said on our, our zoom in and shout out to the zoom.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We had a great time in the zoom.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a perfect time to become a Patreon Patron dot com slash things block party or YouTube member or Twitch sub I said like I do think that they want to find get him on the field and like dime situations You know long-guard situations getting him on the field It went to prize me at all just in regards to just you know how he's played in training camp because out there.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I guess it jacks He has an interception.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He got another great pass break up even before the interception Also, I want to give some love to Martin Emerson
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  [SPEAKER_01]: had a lot of good play stacked up on the defensive side of the ball with 22 out there.
• 5:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think you think you could really see that him and price of really kind of those cornerback three cornerback four positions like we have to see how the rest of the plays out.
• 5:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it seems like they're on the way of kind of solidifying those positions in the defense.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: with Emerson I was a little worried about him early in camp because he was getting home to get in cuck but you know he was like okay you know were you ever but then like I said the last we can have for whatever he started seeing really start to show up especially once they started putting pads on stuff like that yeah
• 6:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, and then you come in a game and he looks good.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's playing in phase.
• 6:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: He looked like a corner, like, okay, like I did.
• 6:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's a corner that could be on the field, you know, I'm saying, and like just to go back to Michael Hillman, I was saying, he was somebody that I had written down.
• 6:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not literally written, but like, mentally written down to watch him, because he's not a guy that you're going to see shine and try to get, you know what I'm saying?
• 6:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's a peds.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, live tackling guy that, you know, he can't hit the quarterback and Kevin Hollister, you got to let him go in a game.
• 6:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: And to see just from the little bit of tape by this, you're in, like, such a Michigan, I'm like, okay, this guy that can really play.
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: So for him, just to see what the FD play with in his game, and just, like, okay, this, like, when you contribute this year, you know, probably not he probably, you know, if he makes the team, he'll probably be a backup or like,
• 6:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I call it like a virus, like a reserve player, but that's the type of guy you wanted to develop and just keep on developing and nurturing, you know what I'm saying?
• 7:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Can we get 63 off of him?
• 7:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, bro.
• 7:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's 63 got to go, bro.
• 7:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: They got to roast such a damn long snap of number, bro.
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like what?
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: That shit is gross.
• 7:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's so gross.
• 7:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: you would not make the team win as 63.
• 7:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just wanted to highlight Kristen Miller again, just for this, it was just interesting to see that the first defensive drive, it was not a good series for him.
• 7:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: It sounds like he, you know, at the end of the game he went and like the medical team, but sounds like it was, you know, for all of the purposes he's fine.
• 7:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: But Antonio made a great point in just saying first, like first actual NFL stops in a game, maybe there was no, what have you.
• 7:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: And after that, like those those correspond or corresponding defensive snaps and series out of that, he was making an impact.
• 7:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was being the Christian Miller you saw at Georgia.
• 7:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: And again, I get going against back, you know, second stringers and whatever, but he looked exactly the same on tape in Georgia and those later defensive, those defensive drives.
• 7:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: being in style at the point of attack, not getting pushed in the run game, making plays in the run game with the run defense.
• 8:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what you want to see from Big 52.
• 8:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's easy to see him out there because he wears the guarding in the helmet.
• 8:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: You don't see defensive lineman wearing the guard in the helmet very often.
• 8:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: But whatever, I don't care.
• 8:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll get too shes.
• 8:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: But encouraging to see, especially because someone who has missed time throughout Trinity, can't I believe what a toe injury.
• 8:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think according to Captain Terrell, it probably got an update now, I didn't check.
• 8:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: But he looked like he was getting looked at for a concussion, so I don't know if it was, you know, they confirmed he had one in that, but that's what he looked at for.
• 8:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, man, like just seeing him being stout, like being that stout do the immovable object, that's all I want to see from him.
• 8:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we work on a progression of being like a good parent's question and honest, who work on it?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But at least just be that stout and movable object in a bit of a defense.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's all we want.
• 8:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's crucial.
• 8:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be crucial overall.
• 8:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Before we talk about the offense, I'd be we'd be remiss if we didn't talk about the Jordan Tyson situation.
• 9:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: So from the update we got from, so the joint practice against the jacks was on Thursday.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He gets the injury.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We had our, we had our,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: podcast we had Thursday evening and then more news has come out since where sound like it it's a hamstring injury Kellen said it wasn't the same like mechanisms that he injured Previously with the hamstring in college.
• 9:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: It does sound like he's gonna miss time.
• 9:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would be surprised if I would be surprised if he did anything The rest of the like quote-unquote off season.
• 9:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: So
• 9:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: joint practices, training camp practices, all that, I'd be surprised if you did anything regardless of that.
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I also wouldn't be surprised if they put him on like once the cuts happen and we can put a player on IR boomerang, it wouldn't shock me if you got put on IR boomerang to start the season when I think at the minimum what you miss with.
• 9:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: for games if I'm real correctly.
• 9:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for all you.
• 9:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's for, right?
• 9:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: But maybe not, I don't know.
• 9:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I get the conversation about Jordan Tyson has been so interesting, I guess you could say because it's one of those things where as fans, we were all worried about it when he got drafted and then like the same type of injury happens, so it was kind of like reconfirms,
• 10:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of here we go, but I do feel like it's it has like kind of gotten a little like out of control Like we'll talk about the offense later, but we saw with Berym Brown did today in this game Price Lance didn't play sound like he you know had you know, maybe had something like some tightness or something in one of them So we didn't see Bryce Lance this game, but it was just good to see Jordan Tyson on the sideline this game like that's my thing where put the injury aside
• 10:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was just kind of honed into like him mentally.
• 10:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like this is a player in college dealt with a lot of hamstring injuries.
• 10:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was the whole talk of his draft process.
• 10:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: The offseason then the, you know, he has to ramp up and he's always like, you know, ramp up during, you know, OTA isn't rookie mini camp by bladden.
• 10:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he finally gets out there.
• 11:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Finally, his in teams was like,
• 11:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: literally like a starter and was coming around made a couple of plays against the jags and that joint practice and the play that he got hurt on like he made like he made a good play and it sounds like the way he got hurt was just how he went out of bounds so.
• 11:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do feel like the team, like I'm not saying like the injuries like legit, but I do feel like the team is putting his long-term health over the fact we're just putting him out there, which Arizona State, when you do that Arizona State, like they would very negligent with how they treated Jordan Tyson's injury.
• 11:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: a question, very negligent.
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I get it.
• 11:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: It sucks.
• 11:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: It puts a, it's the biggest damper that the things have had this entire off season.
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's been so much optimism, so much hope.
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then this happens and it kind of like takes the balloon out the, you know, the balloon out the cell or the wind out the balloon or whatever.
• 11:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it like it isn't like the end of the world.
• 11:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's not, it doesn't sound like he's going to miss the entire season.
• 11:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: So
• 11:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just the, it's a thing that I've just, I've noticed and I've kind of like kind of stayed away from the conversation.
• 12:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I understand the frustration, but like, it's been so loud and just so like, a little overblown to me to me.
• 12:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's not just overblown, it's like, people just love some people just like, man, it just, that was a terrible pig.
• 12:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, we should've made the pig and stuff like that.
• 12:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's just like,
• 12:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: You got to let this one in those long term things, you know, like you got to see I plays out long term, you know, long term, I think first and foremost, like just a little bit that we saw for the last couple of weeks, he looks like a legit player, you know what I'm saying, he's a legit player.
• 12:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just kind of get him healthy, bro.
• 12:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just got to get him healthy, forgets it does happen, have strength happen, injuries going happening for boys, just nothing you could do about it.
• 12:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully this isn't just something that's just going to be one of those things that Lakers, he's going to get right man, so it's just sucked, it just sucked because like, yeah, it just confirmed, it just confirmed that the thing, the little voice in the back of everybody's mind, like, oh, just hope you stay healthy, and then it's like, oh, okay.
• 13:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: go again.
• 13:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: But look man, the Saints tripled them, get drafted.
• 13:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Three wire receivers in this past draft.
• 13:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: And all three look legit.
• 13:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, Tyson might be out for a little while, but you got Barry Brown.
• 13:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: He looking good.
• 13:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Barry's last looking good.
• 13:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about it more.
• 13:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is game.
• 13:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Trade Palmer.
• 13:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Somebody who we just black band, do you even exist?
• 13:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: And
• 13:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: been on but means as were like he out went out there and played today played by hell of a game hell of a game so like wilder Tyson and everything is like disappointing it just overall like full of season it doesn't it doesn't happen my hopes it's just it's a it's a got people people writing like dissertations and like whatever I will get into we don't need to get into it like in depth but we I just wanted to kind of
• 13:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: update the audience on all that.
• 13:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: But let's take our first break right here.
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's get a break in.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll come back and let's talk about the Saints offense.
• 14:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And particularly talk about there's some controversy at the quarterback to position and back a quarterback for the Saints.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But we'll get into that right after this break.
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• 15:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: So before our break I just kind of talked about the backup quarterback position for the Saints and after today's preseason game gets a jacks I do think you know the conversation of who the backup quarterback of the Saints going into the season is in a conversation that has to be had because
• 16:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Zach Wilson went out there and performed well, like he performed well, a Spencer Rattler think is first the first drive he took a sack on third down on which is like a coverage sack second drive well, sorry first drive it was like he didn't do anything because it was a great return by tie-channeler and then estimate go you know scores on the next play after that
• 16:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the first like full offensive drive Rattler had a sack.
• 16:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was like a three-an-out drive after that.
• 16:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: He had a strip fumble where Estimum misses the block, but he tries to do too much and he probably should have just got rid of the ball through the way and then he didn't.
• 16:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: The third drive, he finally finally kind of gets settled in and he moves moving the ball and the drop, the drive stall is out, leads to a bill go.
• 16:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: But there was also like a bad ball to Estimum and Estimum gets a nasty tackle and
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Before that injury, like SMA looked like he was like on his way to solidify the one-and-a-back free position.
• 17:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: After A-chan and after A-K, it looked like it was going to be his almost locked up with Neil Hurr, with Ken Draby and Ken Draby and Ken Draby.
• 17:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then it's just the contrast when Zach Wilson came out there because he was throwing that bitch.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was on time.
• 17:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was on the money.
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: accurate.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Lisa, you know, Lisa scoring touchdown drive, but we've talked about it earlier like but music, but means was making plays.
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Barry and Brown had that almost almost toe-touch toe-touch down and it is what it is, man.
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, Rallor has this thing where when it's game time, like he is just a thing where he's not making plays and you continue to make plays, but also turning
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man, if we see it over and over, it's almost like it's obviously because like in in training camp You've been looking great.
• 17:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: You've been having a great a great camp by all accounts You know saying he's like the inverse of shock is what it's what I've sweet it the inverse of shock Bird is so weird because you would think when like you want to perform in the light's come on But it's like it's always just something is just a little off something is just a little off We just he's not going out there and just slinging that thing like we know he could sling it like go broke out there and slinging you've got a
• 18:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Super arm, you've got a nice little athlete, like, oh, it, but it's just like too many things.
• 18:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: But, like, they've sagged fumble, like, but just get to the ground.
• 18:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
• 18:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: You don't too much.
• 18:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what caused you to drive leisure, which, you know, the views on who's the job, anyway, but that's what that was the impetus of it or whatever.
• 18:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, Zach Wilson came in another guy who honestly has not really wilded anybody and camp started putting together a couple of nice days over the last week or so But he came in there brother.
• 18:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Look good, bro.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm all alive.
• 18:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's showing like why he was drafted number two Like all those all that's cool.
• 18:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 18:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, too.
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why he was dripping in nobody like scoffed at it when it happened.
• 18:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was like okay
• 18:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: like the dude is talented man, and so from the coach's staff, standpoint, if you could get Zach Wilson up to par and looking like, at least like a quality backup, that's the hell of a development right there, bro.
• 19:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Zach Wilson.
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it had red lilies at a point in his career where he's kind of, you know, people were like, oh, you know, they're going to shop him or they're going to trade them.
• 19:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: You got to put good tape up there to be traded, like, no, like, who would call the same for him right now?
• 19:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, nobody.
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm looking, you know, watching the bears early in old binyeb, or binyeb, or binyeb, they're bowling.
• 19:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Binge went the best backups in the league, bro.
• 19:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: And in the league, Binge, looking good.
• 19:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's where, you know, I was hoping Brad look could get too, but, you know, you can't do that.
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And look this time, Binge got two more preseason games.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, Binge could turn it around, but that's just where is that right now.
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I said it in our live stream.
• 19:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: It wouldn't shock me that during that Rams game next week.
• 19:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: That maybe Zack Wilson goes in their first instead of, instead of, I wouldn't shock me one bit.
• 20:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I would think, and I don't know, they have multiple joint practices next week that the cowboys on Tuesday, and then I have to have the ram that some point next week, I do wonder if they, if they will put the first team, first team units out there for time against the Rams.
• 20:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't listen.
• 20:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: The Rams don't, the Rams do not play any of their starters at all in any preseason.
• 20:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be, even if they put the first out there, it's going to be the Saints first team office going is the Rams second team defense and same thing for defensive, right?
• 20:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm interested to see how that plays out was also interesting during this preseason game and regards to who was calling plays because it was the Nussmire calling plays.
• 20:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't killing more and Entire Jusel called defense.
• 20:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: interesting.
• 20:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was also just seeing how Kevin, this was the most engaged I've seen Kevin as a head coach of the Saints in a football game.
• 20:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like he was at like you had you saw like a motion from him.
• 20:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was like because like you said like usually when he's calling plays he's so like in the zone just just in a play sheet.
• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: But you saw him actually like walking around and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
• 21:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, that was a good looking.
• 21:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was interested.
• 21:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Terry Joseph, and also there's an update on Shemiller and Estimates to be as an ankle Christian Miller as a shoulder a shoulder injury.
• 21:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you'll find out more later.
• 21:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
• 21:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's probably and that's to me It wouldn't really suck because it was he was a very perseverent preventable.
• 21:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying very preventable I didn't love the play called didn't love the past You know, it just like you saw it happen in slow motion.
• 21:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: You knew it was much or dead as it was gonna happen and it's like
• 21:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Come on and not estimate because he been looking like solidified RB3, you know So he probably still like like this you know it might be a minor ankle some so we don't know But you just hate to see it for hate to see do you either anything you went to hit on just the whole like offense defense being like Offers of just man it that through that through on to Bob mean Nick God
• 22:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was that was that's a beat that was like a Zach Wilson B.
• 22:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why you throw like that's the throw That was he did at the protein You knew it.
• 22:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was bro Protein That's the protein through boy and that was that was beautiful
• 22:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Couldn't talk about Oscar Delphiro quick.
• 22:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I ask if that was a fast as if I can't wait to go back and watch that I ask it to open this game because that was fascinating to watch because he he barely battled through it I give him this he did because if it was it was it was looking like Brown come on, bro What we doing here Oscar Brown.
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I scum my Oh, it'll burn even that even He did even the touchdown like
• 23:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't know what it is like he asked him prove his his place drink as as a pro and his I remember When I went back and like really was like watching his all 22 and I like what I saw a lot But like I did notice he dropped a lot of easy passes last like and like when he was just he'd be wide open Just because of his athleticism but like the ball not saying all the time But it was like to the point where it was like notice a boy like he had dropped some eats
• 23:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you saw some of that today in this game.
• 23:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: But like you said, like he battled through it, he has some nice catches, but like that touch down, if that's not in the end zone, you could argue that might be in completion.
• 23:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: It could be a fun mode just to read.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: So like that has to improve.
• 23:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: But he did, he did battle through it.
• 23:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Even who else dropped?
• 23:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the title, I get it.
• 23:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Joanne will sit in Norfolk will sit in.
• 23:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, he had dropped one just like this need need a little better Need a little bit because the thing about tight ends y'all the safety net like you supposed to be the safety net He's supposed to be like the right guys We throw two to get like that guaranteed completion.
• 24:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: So like you gotta catch the ball It's the reason why we was frustrated with Joined Johnson for years Because he would go stretches when he they have a lot of drops and stuff like that.
• 24:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, don't don't don't don't you worry You said for years like that shouldn't.
• 24:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure
• 24:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I didn't want to give a quick shout out to Jeremiah Wright, uh, Bigzoma in the first half, he played a lot.
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, there was some plays where he made like in the run game where he got great, great push in the run game.
• 24:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he kept doing like the belt to ask celebration after like the, the the right, it was, it was hilarious to see.
• 24:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not saying like, it's enough to justify like putting him in and said a
• 24:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: If it's just, if he can be consistent and like, okay, in past protection, okay, just okay in past protection, I do wonder if that conversation starts matriculating in there with the coaches.
• 25:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait to go back and watch and I really love this.
• 25:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Bro, if your first game, the mission quite a bit of time too, it's great.
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: If your first game, at least look like you belong on the field, that's a good start, man.
• 25:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's a good start for like a rookie.
• 25:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: So if you could just keep building on it,
• 25:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: But the line is very complicated.
• 25:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, so I have to learn a lot of the nuances that go along with it, especially going against like creating interior pairs versus and stuff.
• 25:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to take some time.
• 25:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: But man, if he could show that he really belongs, bro, he won't put some personal reads, man.
• 25:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: He won't put some personal on needed.
• 25:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he'll need it.
• 25:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, some games he had a rough game, some games he was looking like were easels, some snails.
• 25:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was, he was, who is this guy, who is this guy, which is unfortunate because he was looking kind of promising last year.
• 26:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I only go back and watch out and some of the tech was dead, obviously it was the youngsters in there, so they didn't have banks or flag out there and I liked that so.
• 26:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they really get up a good evening out on that, but yeah, like offensively trade Palmer But memes those two guys stepping up was really really impressive to me man It was really impressive because one of his needed it and just the style of catches They were making home stretching out stretching out later game like this
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: the full quarter of a playoff game, but I'm like, yeah, he planned, but I'm not okay, but I'm really impressed with me, man, because I just trip on with somebody I was like, I was just kind of with no, it has not existed in our brains, what's not existed, man.
• 26:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, good on him, it above means, I could say but means being battling all camp, or even doing everything he can, he,
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you just try to find ways to make a couple of plays and like you pointed up in the zone like Tyson being out helps those guys Yeah, not that not like they're replacing Tyson, but it's just more targets.
• 27:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: They can get now.
• 27:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, saying more yeah More more opportunities for them to show like hey, you know, I you know, I could make some plays to now
• 27:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah man, it's over, over to take the tip out.
• 27:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: We don't put the tip in.
• 27:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: We even asked to put the tip in, and we're just just, just take it up, take it up.
• 27:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's take our last break of the show.
• 27:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: It will come back, we talked about special teams, which I know sounds boring, but there's a lot to talk about with the same special teams, puning, kicking this game.
• 27:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about it right after our last break.
• 27:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll be right back.
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• 28:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about Sputch with Team.
• 28:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Ryan Wright, the new punner for all, like all accounts pretty had a pretty good game that had a 55 yarder, but then he followed up with a 55 yarder with a 15 yarder punter, but then after that, his punts after that were, you know, 53, I feel, feel confident and okay with the punner position that the things have gone into the season.
• 29:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now that kicker battle, I don't know.
• 29:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Tener Brown, Tener Brown hit both his kicks in today's game, and then they sent Charlie Smith out there for a 5-3-yarder.
• 29:16
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• 29:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: is he definitely cooked like dang it it it it seems like it it that kick was everything that we heard in training camp like it literally like everything we heard in training camp these last couple of days or last maybe like two weeks that was the epitome of what we've heard and it was just not
• 29:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: good.
• 29:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I keep saying I don't know or think the week one kicker for the Saints is on the roster.
• 29:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do a hundred percent believe that this is that's a position that they're going to be either going against in the waiver wire if there's a team out there that's having a kicker competition whoever doesn't win that kicker competition gets cut or I can see them you know maybe they like a kicker so much that they make make it make a trade for somebody if they feel like that you know that the kicker's going to get cut and they feel like they are going to
• 30:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just, it's another season where a kicker is just a question mark and it's just, I'm just tired, tired, Ryan.
• 30:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, bro, I just love when it's just, like, why can't we just have somebody with just like, you're not even worried about it.
• 30:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just, I don't even want to, I don't worry about it.
• 30:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you get 95% of your kids and you're good, you know what I'm saying.
• 30:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's just another season we're going to do with it, bro.
• 30:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I did like, um, it's one of the special teams got a nice return early,
• 30:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know where he fits in on all fans, so I don't know if he'll make the team, but like if that's a guy, you get on a practice quiet and then bring up your team.
• 30:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
• 30:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: On game day, to return some kicks to got Barry Brown, I don't think he got any returns yesterday, did it?
• 31:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: He did it.
• 31:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: He did it.
• 31:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: His return's not been it with not good, because he tried to go sideways and not forward.
• 31:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: So you got Bear Brown, you got Tashana, you got some returns, that was, and you know, what makes it, why not got some, some, probably, they get net boy opportunities.
• 31:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I need to, I want to, I want to, I want to, I want to know what's, who in the discord called him, they had coo, coo, coo, coo, coo, coo, coo, coo, coo, coo, coo, coo.
• 31:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know who you was this year.
• 31:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who you was.
• 31:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I need to know who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who who
• 32:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking, I would also like to go like this weekend, look at, see how styles, sunny styles, not sunny styles, his brother was like styles did, the resolution styles did, just in coverage.
• 32:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because it didn't sound like he just got targeted a lot, I saw him making a few plays.
• 32:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to just go see how he, you know, he was, he was like on special teams, he missed that tackle, but like he, his athleticism as a gunner is 100% noticeable.
• 32:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is his stance out.
• 32:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: But T.J. all he got to be was a little bit all who else.
• 32:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Fish and boy got a lot of snaps.
• 32:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was a little worn down towards the end, but I thought he'd made some good plays.
• 32:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, early, but they played him like the entire guy damn game about any steps for us.
• 32:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: But boy, I was the most easy place in California.
• 32:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that was good to see him get snatched.
• 32:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: We talked about hell, man.
• 32:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: For the other day, he's got a sack.
• 32:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was good to see.
• 32:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's sermon.
• 32:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: The Jack Sermon, I want to say.
• 32:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: He made a couple of plays his dad's on the coaching staff.
• 33:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: had no idea he was.
• 33:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: No idea.
• 33:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what the hell is sermon?
• 33:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Aaron certainly.
• 33:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, he's making a place, bro.
• 33:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was making a place.
• 33:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: We some guy named Crawford, bro.
• 33:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're, we're tuned in with the Saints, but when 85 made it, catch us soon.
• 33:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: fuck it's that he got the target the target to try to win go for the win and one thing that's a little little on my radar and maybe I'm making a burn speak on day set very on brown down the second half like it was not out there
• 33:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: He had done his, he's done what he needed to do.
• 33:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then on that final drive, they put him in for at least two plays.
• 33:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: One was the fourth down play that they got a pass in the parents on.
• 33:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then he was on the next two plays, I think.
• 33:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe like he had three or four plays after that.
• 33:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: And about him and go to him on the fourth down play with one second love.
• 33:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just on my radar of why he was back up there.
• 33:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I, as someone who get, like, I understand it, like you want to win, you want to set the, the, the culture and the tone of winning, I get that, but it just felt a little too much for me and like a week one for first week preseason game, because you already are dealing with Jordan Tyson's apps for however long.
• 34:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Could you imagine if he got in dinged up just being out there those last three plays or four plays, bro?
• 34:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like do you like it would have been like I don't think I've ever like I've watched a lot of preseason Not like bro, unfortunately, unfortunately I don't think I've ever seen that work a player has had missed like the entire second half of me He's getting in for like four snaps.
• 34:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was just weird wolf like I didn't like it I didn't it just I don't like we don't like it either bro.
• 34:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Your mind me like
• 34:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, all folks you should say, if you go out to school, I say you go out at night, and then you come on, what you come on, stay on, like don't go back out.
• 34:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 34:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: You made it home, like, great.
• 34:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Don't go back up, like, cause you go back out, some bag on your heels and, like, you make your home safe, call that a wrap and go to the next day.
• 34:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what the guy that maybe feel like, right, like, you made it, you became healthy, don't put them back out there, like, don't you?
• 35:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: He already made a play, I almost had, like, damn you're having a touchdown and if you were able to keep it, the balance in, like, what could I do?
• 35:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I just, it was, I, I see, I didn't like it.
• 35:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, thankfully, luckily he didn't get hurt, but, ooh, that, the news that,
• 35:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: You got you got to be smarter about that like that's just like like I don't know Just telling God just so went to like the game and just won the win and just just be smarter about it Brother like that was not a smart thing to me.
• 35:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: It just wasn't smart You just got to gotta be smarter.
• 35:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just on my radar anything else from from preseason week one No, man, I think that's it Think that's it bro.
• 35:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, I thought it was a good game, man.
• 35:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought I did do
• 35:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I still think offensively it is, I mean, I know it wasn't the one so you're going to take so much, but there's still.
• 35:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if something is just kind of knowing at me, but with the offense, I can't just put my finger on it, but just.
• 35:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: a little messy, you know, and yes, again, it's the two who's in the threes, but just some messy about this comboblated is a good word for this comboblated.
• 36:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just want to see the office, and especially with the ones we find to see the ones, I just want to see them look clean for a driver too.
• 36:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
• 36:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: It just look clean together, no penalties, no blonde, you know, blonde, missed misblocks, you know, you had to estimate misblocks, they caused a whole randler,
• 36:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: for a series of two, especially with the ones.
• 36:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's the tools, so you get a load.
• 36:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I watched a plenty of pre-season games this weekend, but some of them, number two teams was out there bowling, looking forward to it.
• 36:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, yeah, I mean, show me a little something, because you got some talent out there, even with the tools you got some talent out there.
• 36:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I need a load more from all things.
• 36:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree with you a hundred percent.
• 36:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do get it because I like I do get a feeling like we'll make we might see the starters against the Rams because I don't think you'll see any starters.
• 36:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I guess the Cowboys.
• 36:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: They did they did put starters out in the third precies in game landscape, right?
• 36:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't that the verticals game?
• 36:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was but it was also like a quarterback battle to go on.
• 37:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how Kelly's going to want to do it.
• 37:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see it's going to be interesting to see.
• 37:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do know this is just letting y'all know for the rams Preasy or rams.
• 37:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Preasy the game next week.
• 37:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Our week-ups going to come much later because I'm going to be at that game.
• 37:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Get to see it all like up close.
• 37:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll record later that evening.
• 37:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I hope that I hope the starters play.
• 37:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: not just because I'm there just in June.
• 37:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to see how, especially at the offensive, how the offense looks in person, even if they're going to get this, that's like, if they're going to get some ram second team defense, like, they, y'all need to go off there and have a clean, drive clean, you know, touch down, like, it ain't even got to be like, fresh, you just like a, that's, but that's, yeah, it's clean, you know, clean operation.
• 37:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: But that's it was it was just now like it's on right football is like almost like officially back it's like it is not not stop until January, but that's how we like it we appreciate it we love love y'all people came up on and came into the
• 38:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Our zoom live stream people who watch like the watch party we had like album views on the watch party which is crazy just yeah, it was crazy about the news of watch party.
• 38:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we appreciate y'all.
• 38:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: We love y'all.
• 38:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: We get we were full force ahead.
• 38:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll be back on I think we're gonna try to record on Tuesday night because I'm gonna be at that Saints Cowboys joint practice in Oxnard So then on Tuesday night we can have a