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RUSH Hour of Lies: RHOP Recap · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well.
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  Speaker 2: The show is just getting started.
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  Speaker 1: Rain Drops give a warm welcome for the beautiful Claudia.
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  Speaker 3: What's up?
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  Speaker 4: How y'all? Do I miss y'all? It feels like it's
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  Speaker 4: been so long.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Claudia, do you I know? Do you? Does happen
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  Speaker 2: with Destiny to uh? Do you happen to have air pods? Bike?
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  Speaker 2: If you bones.
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 4: Am I echoing?
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  Speaker 6: You actually find out now we were buffering a little bit.
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  Speaker 6: I think it was a wife issue more than what
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  Speaker 6: Destiny's problem was.
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  Speaker 5: I'm in the hotel, so I don't know what kind
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  Speaker 5: of hope, what kind of you know? I'm in Miami too,
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  Speaker 5: so like the wife, I don't Hey, y'all.
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  Speaker 4: What's up?
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  Speaker 7: Miss you?
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  Speaker 2: We missed you? Look amazed.
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  Speaker 3: You look amazing. You were hosting something.
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  Speaker 4: I had to do some green screen today.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm here in Miami and I have to do
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  Speaker 5: a scene tomorrow, which I don't know how I feel
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  Speaker 5: about it.
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  Speaker 4: So it's like I'm about to get set up. I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to let y'all know right now if you.
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  Speaker 5: Hear about me the blogs on Wednesday and when left,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm just letting you know right now, Carlos had
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  Speaker 5: a bail money ready, I know you got me?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I do, Okay, I might need to ride from
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  Speaker 4: Blue come get me Destin.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm.
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  Speaker 7: I got you.
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  Speaker 2: Baby, about to snatch your bundles up?
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  Speaker 3: Look?
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  Speaker 2: Is somebody about to snatch a bundles?
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  Speaker 4: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 7: Are you?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: A scene? Oh?
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  Speaker 5: Now?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I have a scene tomorrow. I have to I can't
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  Speaker 5: really tell the storyline.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to know. Don't no, don't give it away?
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  Speaker 2: Are you There is a woman going to pull your
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  Speaker 2: hair tomorrow?
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  Speaker 4: I wish a bitch would That would never happen in
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  Speaker 4: real life. Never, It never happened figuratively physically. Last time
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  Speaker 4: it was the last time so much. I'm fifty two
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  Speaker 4: years old, so back in the nineteen hundred and nineties.
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  Speaker 3: I remember them vaguely.
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  Speaker 5: It's been a long time, but back I used to
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  Speaker 5: be scrappy back in there, but now I got my
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  Speaker 5: nails done. I'll assue you, or maybe I'll hit you
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  Speaker 5: with a steel chair, but I'm not fighting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, your heal. I love that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, out of them heels. I just have things
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  Speaker 4: to lose.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Well, that is true. That is true. So rain
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  Speaker 2: Drows welcome.
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  Speaker 1: Claudia doesn't in blue as we are here to get
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  Speaker 1: into hot topics, and then we will talk about the
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  Speaker 1: latest episode of the Real Housewives of Potomac.
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  Speaker 2: So Claudia doesn't in blue. The latest update that.
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  Speaker 1: We have with the Candy and Todd divorce is the
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  Speaker 1: fact that People magazine did an article where they said
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  Speaker 1: that allegedly.
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  Speaker 2: Because it was from a source, The source.
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  Speaker 1: Alleged that Candy found out Tod was talking to other people.
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  Speaker 2: What we know as of now is Todd.
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  Speaker 1: Did counterclaim and asked for him and Candy to come
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  Speaker 1: to an agreement in regards to to the child custody situation,
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  Speaker 1: and that you know he does desire to have physical custody.
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  Speaker 1: He also may want child support and alimony if he
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  Speaker 1: does have to take care of the kids full time.
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  Speaker 2: He also mentioned how.
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  Speaker 1: He did sign the prem up without an attorney there
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  Speaker 1: and that leaves room for error. Candy contraclaimed with that
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  Speaker 1: on December first, and said that she will use Bravos
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  Speaker 1: footage from their wedding special to show that not only
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  Speaker 1: did he sign it not against his will when they
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  Speaker 1: ask him on camera that you know, it was a
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  Speaker 1: conversation they had already and he was going to do it.
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  Speaker 1: So that has been the latest with that. Claudia, want
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  Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on it. You know, the last
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  Speaker 1: time we did speak on it, you did, you know,
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  Speaker 1: say that, Look, you're hoping that things don't get too
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  Speaker 1: messy and things don't get out of hand. It appears
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  Speaker 1: that this may be a situation that gets As of now,
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  Speaker 1: I would say it's getting a little it is igniting,
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  Speaker 1: just based on the counterclaims of it all. Todd, for
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  Speaker 1: the record, has not responded to Candy's counterclaim on December
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  Speaker 1: first as of today.
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  Speaker 5: Listen, we say it all the time, the person you
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  Speaker 5: break up with, it is not the person you married.
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  Speaker 5: It's not the person that quart not the person had
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  Speaker 5: butterflies over it's not the person that you say, Oh
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  Speaker 5: my god, I would never do that to you. Of
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  Speaker 5: Course I'm gonna be fair. Of course it's gonna be
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  Speaker 5: like this. Of course I'm okay with this. So you know,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, this is just typical. This is just what happens.
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  Speaker 5: This isn't special, this isn't different, this is this is
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  Speaker 5: what people do when they break up. Unfortunately a lot
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  Speaker 5: of people do this. I mean, think about every breakup
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  Speaker 5: that's gone left. There was probably a time when you
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  Speaker 5: lay down with this person, look them in the eye
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  Speaker 5: and really meant it from the bottom of your heart, like, yo,
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  Speaker 5: it's different with you.
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  Speaker 4: I feel differently, you know.
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  Speaker 5: And then add on a multi million dollar empire on
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  Speaker 5: top of that, and with all these eyeballs watching, people
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  Speaker 5: are gonna feel away, Todd and Candy Bosey, the people
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  Speaker 5: making comments and the commentary and social media make you
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  Speaker 5: feel away, and maybe the things you want to let
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  Speaker 5: slide you like that, I'm letting that slide. Oh they saying,
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  Speaker 5: what about me, I'm a suck ass nigga? Oh that
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  Speaker 5: is that what Blue said? Oh Claudi said this about me?
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  Speaker 5: Would Dustin and Carlos say, oh, they're doing shade and
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  Speaker 5: then people get their chest poked out.
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  Speaker 4: I do not think he signed under duress. We all
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  Speaker 4: saw the show.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, didn't he get the paperwork month in advance but
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  Speaker 5: chose who signed it on camera the day of the wedding?
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  Speaker 4: Is that what happened?
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  Speaker 3: I right about that?
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead, right, You're correct.
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  Speaker 8: They were talking about how it had been a long
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  Speaker 8: standing conversation and she was confused. She was like, we've
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  Speaker 8: talked about this so many times. Why are you bringing
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  Speaker 8: back up here? Do you know where I stand? Which
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  Speaker 8: shows that address?
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  Speaker 4: Doesn't that feel?
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  Speaker 5: And I hate to talk about either one of them
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  Speaker 5: because I like them both, But like, we're talking about it,
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  Speaker 5: so let's talk about it. So if you got the
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  Speaker 5: tape paperwork months in advance and you waited for a
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  Speaker 5: camera to be on you for you two say, I
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  Speaker 5: would have been my spider sentence would have been tangling
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  Speaker 5: on my wedding day when you said on camera, against
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  Speaker 5: the advice of my lawyers, I'm gonna sign this. I
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  Speaker 5: would think you are already thinking about our breakup right now.
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  Speaker 5: You're doing that's your evidence, that's what you did. Why
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  Speaker 5: was this not I get doing it for the show,
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  Speaker 5: but the day of that was that feels a little premeditated.
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  Speaker 3: I have to agree with her.
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  Speaker 8: I went back and watched some of it, and what
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  Speaker 8: made me sad is I got the impression that he
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  Speaker 8: thought that he could either wear her down or embarrass her.
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  Speaker 8: Where if I'm wearing you down, you feel stupid asking repeatedly,
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  Speaker 8: maybe yourself asking someone do do that, or if it's
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  Speaker 8: brought up on camera and I pushed back, you won't
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  Speaker 8: want to argue with me on camera, so you might
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  Speaker 8: back off so that we look good at United Front.
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  Speaker 3: Neither worked.
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  Speaker 8: Kenny was like, I don't know what you're talking about,
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  Speaker 8: but you're signed the paper, right, Like she could not
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  Speaker 8: be bullied, and so it felt like a covert.
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  Speaker 3: Attempt to push her into doing something he knew she
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  Speaker 3: didn't want to do.
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  Speaker 8: I think she was more to the rest than he was,
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  Speaker 8: to be perfectly honest, I think he was.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: She also said she didn't give a damn if that
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  Speaker 6: paper wasn't signed, it was gonna be no wedding, and.
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  Speaker 7: She didn't care about turning those guests away.
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  Speaker 6: And I love that she was so clear in those episodes,
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  Speaker 6: because I too, what was that white Lady's saying, Rachel
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  Speaker 6: doz out. She was like, I too, So I too
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  Speaker 6: went back and watched you know what I'm saying, the
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  Speaker 6: Candy's Wedding Special, the five episode Charlotte to none other
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  Speaker 6: than Carlos motherfucking King for executive producing that. But thank god,
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  Speaker 6: Candy was so crystal clear in her communication regarding the prenup,
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  Speaker 6: regarding their previous conversations and discussions of it, regarding Todd,
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  Speaker 6: regarding the discrepancy between Todd saying what his concerns were
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  Speaker 6: and what the notes from his lawyer reflected the concerns
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  Speaker 6: actually being. She illustrated all of that beautifully, And what
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  Speaker 6: I liked most about it is that it wasn't even intentional.
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  Speaker 6: That was just Candy being Candy, the way that she
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  Speaker 6: was communicating with Todd about that when she was on
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  Speaker 6: the phone, even her stopping her conversation when Mama Joyce
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  Speaker 6: entered the room, when she was going off on Todd
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  Speaker 6: rightfully so on the phone about the day pre nap,
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  Speaker 6: Mama Joyce came in, she said, I can't talk right now.
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  Speaker 7: I gotta go to it. I gotta go.
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  Speaker 6: That was real emotion, real shit connected to the signing
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  Speaker 6: of that document and guess what else.
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  Speaker 7: It was smart because just.
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  Speaker 6: Like she said when she was discussing it, and he
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  Speaker 6: ain't gonna be no signing, so he could say he
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  Speaker 6: was under pressure.
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  Speaker 7: Later he's gonna have to do it.
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  Speaker 6: On camera saying I am not under you know, duress
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  Speaker 6: or whatever when I'm signing, when I'm signing this document.
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  Speaker 6: So shout out to Candy for dotting her eyes and
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  Speaker 6: crossing her damn.
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  Speaker 7: Ts you know, ugly, I'm sorry. Go ahead, no, go ahead, friends.
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  Speaker 9: Question to y'all, might there be an argument that you
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  Speaker 9: never really wanted you wanted this was your game plan
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  Speaker 9: for a long time, because if I was really wanting
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  Speaker 9: to engage in the negotiating process when I first got
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  Speaker 9: the documents, I could have the paperwork in her terms.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe I'd say, oh, let me see line, I don't
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  Speaker 4: like this.
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  Speaker 5: Let's let's pushback on this, like to have honest negotiations
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  Speaker 5: right in those months you had leading up to this,
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  Speaker 5: instead of waiting to the day of and then saying
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  Speaker 5: on camera again my Lloyd's advice. You know, if you
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  Speaker 5: really wanted to have honest negotiations, you would have been
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  Speaker 5: going back and forth like actively leading up to the
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  Speaker 5: wedding instead of the day of, and then you can
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  Speaker 5: like say.
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  Speaker 4: Later on oh like you none of the term to
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  Speaker 4: challenge journal thoes months in between and then.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, I got I got a question for Claudia
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  Speaker 1: because I feel like I'm the I'm the bad kid
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  Speaker 1: who did not do his homework. Although, like Jess said,
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  Speaker 1: I produced a special, but I don't remember.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard to keep track.
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  Speaker 2: God is good, but Claudia are you? Are you all
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  Speaker 2: the top? He's good? But Claudia, are you saying that?
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  Speaker 2: Because I remember that? Are you saying that? Todd?
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  Speaker 1: That Todd said on camera, I'm signing this against my will, he.
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  Speaker 4: Said, against the advice of my lawyer. I'm going to
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  Speaker 4: sign this. He said that. Yeah, am I Am I wrong?
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  Speaker 7: He said, definitely said that. He definitely said that.
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  Speaker 4: So if I'm gonna go okay.
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  Speaker 5: I remember a company strong army to sign some documents
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  Speaker 5: and my lawyer was like no, no, no, But then
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  Speaker 5: they did some grimy like if you don't right, So
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  Speaker 5: that's under duress.
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  Speaker 4: Right, that's under duress.
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  Speaker 5: That is for real under duress, and and like to
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  Speaker 5: having an unrealistic time like do it by tomorrow. But
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  Speaker 5: when you have months, You have months to go back
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  Speaker 5: and forth, and you chose not. If he chose not
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  Speaker 5: to negotiate and then waited till that day to make
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  Speaker 5: that declaration on camera, to me, that's a problem now
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  Speaker 5: if I'm wrong, and if they were going back and
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  Speaker 5: forth in the meantime, you have more of a case
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  Speaker 5: the way it is what it's looking like again allegedly
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  Speaker 5: allegedly allegedly, I'm not in there that family's business.
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  Speaker 4: But he did say that on the show.
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  Speaker 6: I do remember that even if he said it, that
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  Speaker 6: one statement can negate the hours and hours of footage
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  Speaker 6: of them going through discussions about the prenup, about what
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  Speaker 6: the issues were that Candy was, you know, standing on
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  Speaker 6: that tie on, it changed like there was active discussion
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  Speaker 6: going on, active conversations being had about the prenup. To me,
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  Speaker 6: I'm no attorney, you know what I'm saying. I wish
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  Speaker 6: my girl he was up here right now. But I
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  Speaker 6: don't think thank you, because I don't think that that
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  Speaker 6: one damn line of him saying, you know, against the
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  Speaker 6: advice of my lawyer or whatever, that's not going to
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  Speaker 6: negate the hours of footage. And that's I'm sure I
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  Speaker 6: don't know if she has access to like the raw footage, right,
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  Speaker 6: but we're just talking about what we've seen in the
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  Speaker 6: final edit.
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  Speaker 1: She doesn't know Candy nor any Candy raw to the
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  Speaker 1: raw footage. But yes, they can't subpoena that if it
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  Speaker 1: gets to that point. Of that point, but Claudia raised
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  Speaker 1: a good question that I want to dive into more,
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  Speaker 1: and guys, we will recapitomabally as well. But to Claudia's point,
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  Speaker 1: because again I y'all, y'all catching me.
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  Speaker 2: Responding in real time because I didn't remember that.
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  Speaker 1: So Claudia is raising raising a good question though since
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  Speaker 1: we know that he did say that I am signing
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  Speaker 1: this against the advice of my lawyers.
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  Speaker 4: That's a legal tactic.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 1: And and if you're if you're somebody's wife seeing that,
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  Speaker 1: because obviously Candy was not in the room when that
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  Speaker 1: was said, if you're someone's wife watching your now husband
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  Speaker 1: say that, would that give cause of concern for you, Claudia, One,
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  Speaker 1: I would be pissed.
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  Speaker 5: I would feel my gut, my my airy spiders. Sence
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  Speaker 5: would say, this motherfucker's trying to set it.
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  Speaker 3: Up for later.
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  Speaker 4: That's that that's what that is. You know, that is
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  Speaker 4: against Why would you say that if Bonie Wodding dead
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  Speaker 4: when you're like, okay, against the advice of my lawyers.
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  Speaker 5: That is, you're putting a disclaimer on your actions. And
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  Speaker 5: someone said in the comments Shane twenty four says he
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  Speaker 5: didn't have months the wedding was planing five weeks. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: you're right, Okay, they didn't have months, They had weeks.
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  Speaker 4: Right. Guess what also took weeks to negotiate. They did
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  Speaker 4: a whole special with Carlos King. You don't think they
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  Speaker 4: negotiated contracts. So you can worry about negotiating those fees
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  Speaker 4: and those terms and get that done before the wedding,
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  Speaker 4: but not your your prenup. All that stuff should have
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  Speaker 4: been tied up in a bow before that day.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, And Claudia is making an excellent point because logically speaking,
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  Speaker 8: like empathizing with Todd, which is what I like to
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  Speaker 8: do when somebody I think somebody's on some bs. The
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  Speaker 8: only way that I would say that after I tried
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  Speaker 8: to do a switcheroo on Candy because Kenny looked the
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  Speaker 8: one thing I love about Candy.
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  Speaker 3: This is a lesson for all people. It's gender neutral.
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  Speaker 8: As long as you protect your boundaries, you don't even
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  Speaker 8: need to know what scheme Tod is setting up. Every
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  Speaker 8: time you enforce a boundary, you end up undermining the scheme, right,
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  Speaker 8: because the scheme is hoping that you won't enforce your boundaries.
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  Speaker 8: That's what Candy did. She's like, I don't know what's
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  Speaker 8: going on, but I know what happened, and I know
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  Speaker 8: what I said was going to happen and what my
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  Speaker 8: boundaries were.
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  Speaker 3: Right. Simply doing that is what covered her.
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  Speaker 8: The only way Todd would do this is if, my
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  Speaker 8: opinion allegedly allegedly is if he never truly believed it
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  Speaker 8: would get signed. I think he had some hubrists where
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  Speaker 8: he thought he could finesse his way out of it.
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  Speaker 8: Candy's acting as if she's confused, because we've had conversations
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  Speaker 8: at nauseum, so I think conversations were had and she
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  Speaker 8: never wavered. So when he said the same thing again
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  Speaker 8: on camera, like right before the wedding, She's like, why
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  Speaker 8: are you bring this up? I've already told you what
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  Speaker 8: the terms are. It felt as if I've already told
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  Speaker 8: you what the terms are repeatedly, why are you pretending
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  Speaker 8: you're confused now that we're doing the thing that we've
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  Speaker 8: been talking about for these five weeks. I think he
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  Speaker 8: did not plan to sign it, or thought that he
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  Speaker 8: could believe sorry under duress. I thought he thought he
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  Speaker 8: could pressure her out of standing her ground.
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  Speaker 3: When the camera's on.
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  Speaker 8: Well, if I can't do it here when the cameras
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  Speaker 8: are on, you don't want to look stupid in front,
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  Speaker 8: you know, Mama Joyce is are making me look bad
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  Speaker 8: and we're under all the stuff. I can make you
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  Speaker 8: look like you're trying to be a good wife and
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  Speaker 8: take them for the team, and Kenny's like, I'm a
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  Speaker 8: team of one right now until we're married.
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: And she's a smart woman. She's a smart woman for that.
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: Candy's not a fold and break type of woman. She
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: doesn't strike me as one, especially when it comes down
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: to where we've seen her character her character to be
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: when it's time to handle business on TV. We watched
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: the show with her and SWV and escape. People got
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: mad at her for trying to iron out terms for
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: the condit for the concert, for how her and SWV
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: her how they and SWV.
• 16:36
  Speaker 7: Were going to work together.
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: She was willing to risk peace and harmony amongst those
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: two groups to get the details ironed out before they
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: move forward. And I think that just kind of reflects
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: a pattern here with her.
• 16:47
  Speaker 7: So I don't know.
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: I'm just glad that she was very smart and vigilant
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: about making sure she had those protections in place because
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: it's literally gonna save her bad her fortune right now.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: And and and and the legal note that I have
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: from Ebony so Ebonie K Williams, who who has practiced
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: family law, go on record saying that she did say that,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: and in her belief or her legal belief, I'll just
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: say that Todd doesn't have a case for duress because
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: he had apple time.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: To get it done. That was that was Ebony's legal
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: note with that.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: However, Ebanie did sex, I want to be fair, Ebanie
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: did say that because the because Candy's lawyer did speak
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: to Todd without his counsel being present, that wasn't great,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: but that when it comes to Todd exercising his right
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: to challenge the pre nup, she said, look, one of
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: the things that could come up is the idea of
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: the tenure of the situation because what we what we
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: do know is and she give your shutout dustin. You know,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Mary de Blige husband can do She said, my friend
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: doesn't cost me ken don't. They did have a pre nup,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: he did challenge it, and he does get alimony and
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: child support from many Blige, although they have no children,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: and and she's brought up Cherry Shepherd too. So the
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: reason why this is a very unfortunate situation is because
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: you sort of figure like you did things by the book.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: But listen, there's always room for that one question I
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: want to ask you guys before we begin to Potomac
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: is the elephant in the conversation, the elephant in the
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: room of conversation that people are truly happening And if you.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Child, you go on TikTok. TikTok is dominated by.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Candy's wedding special at every single house I've seen, Candy
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: is Kenny Talk are dominating TikTok.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: They really are. Mama Joyce.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Blue said it last week that Mama Joyce was a
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: good messenger, but the delivery wasn't great. Mama Joyce felt
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: immediately that, you know, she didn't feel like this was
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: the right relationship relationship for her daughter. What do y'all
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: think about Mama Joyce's position in all of this. On
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: one end, people are saying, Mama Joyce was right, look
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: at what's happening now. On the other end, there are
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: people who are saying that, based on how tab was
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: treated by her mother and the family, that he does
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: deserve something, Dustin, What do you have to say to that.
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: First, I believe that Mama Joyce is at a casino.
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: You know, she liked to gamble.
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: They will talk about Mama joy I believe that Mama
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: Joyce is at the casino in some highwaysted jeans.
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, her barbe.
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: And her paparazzi sapphires on and I think that she
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: is letting Luck be a lady tonight because she hit
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: the jet bla. Mama Joyce did not want Candy and
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: tied to marry, you know what I'm saying. She was
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: very clear about that. And one thing that we know.
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: I know that Mama Joyce has done and said things
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: that a lot of people take issue with, right, But
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: one thing that we do know for a fact is
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: that Mama Joyce do not fucking play when it comes
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: to Candy Burrs, her daughter, and she was adamant from
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: day one that Candy be protected legally, you know what
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: I'm saying. And she said she don't want to choke
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: on a chicken. She don't want something to happen to Candy,
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: and she choke on a chicken bone and he could
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: tell her to get out, you know what I'm saying.
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: Mama Joyce was always thinking ahead, and we didn't want
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: her to be right about this. You know, Candy was happy,
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: She appeared happy. Her ty had a connection that you
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: could see. We always stought they had a cool friendship.
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: We didn't want Mama Joyce to be right about this
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: with But damn it, it looks like I'm not gonna.
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: Say Mama Joyce was right.
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: But their relationship didn't work out, you know what I'm saying.
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: And Mama Joyce was a to see the end of it.
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: So I believe personally, her feet are swinging on a
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: stool somewhere and she's pulling that lever or playing them cards.
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: That's what I believe. She's celebrating.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: I think she is and I now that Mama Dreyce
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: took a liking right to live in Atlanta.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: I need to hit her up now. The no, she's
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: a galling addict like me. I'm gonna hit her up
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: because maybe we can talk about you.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: I was like, I've been in a Vegas for Claudia.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: You just describe Claudia a little bit dustin an't know?
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: Yes, yes, I.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: Hate that she's quote unquote right because I think up
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: until lately, and I mean lately this last week or so,
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: I don't think Todd was this awful person. I don't
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: and I do think ten years in a relationship like,
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: I hate people say, oh you're a failure. Nowadays, people
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: can't even get to a third date. It's so hard
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: for people with social media.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: People here, well you know.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: What I'm saying that it seems like there's a lot
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: of people that can't even get anything going. I'm one
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: of them, you know what I mean. I had a marriage.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: I I filed for an no one after four months. Okay,
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: So I'm not coming from a place where I look
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: down my relationship high horse like, oh you only made
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: it ten years, you.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to get to ten weeks around this bitch.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: So anyways, I'm just saying, like ten years is not
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: something that just like sneaks, you know what I mean, Like,
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: it's not.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Like it was when she was when Mama Joyce, I
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: think she.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: Was hard on him. It could have been and I
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: don't even think that was based on anything. It could
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: have been just Mama's good feeling that they have with
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: people that they love.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Have you ever had a feeling about someone.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: I'm sure Blue this happened to you because you're very
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: in tune where you have a feeling about someone. They
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: didn't do anything wrong, like tangible right, but you just
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: feel something and then one hundred years later this sound
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: You're like, see, I was right.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know. It depends on how you look at it.
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: I prayed on this a little bit, y'all. I prayed
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: on this a little bit. I think I think Claudia
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: and Dustin are being very fair. Well, Dustin was being funny,
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: but I think you are being fair.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Here's what's tricky. We're all thinking, did she clock Todd.
• 23:05
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna be honest, as the person who's played the
• 23:07
  Speaker 8: candy role so many times, I think she clocked her daughter.
• 23:10
  Speaker 8: My friends have told me that when I'm with a
• 23:12
  Speaker 8: man that I'm trying to make look good to everybody else,
• 23:15
  Speaker 8: but I'm having.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: To shrink for him. They can clock that in me.
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: I don't think she was clocking Todd necessarily, it's obviously.
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: I think she knows how her daughter likes to take
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: care of people. She knows how her daughter will put
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: on a brave face. She knows her daughter doesn't want
• 23:29
  Speaker 8: to embarrass her man. And I think she clocked those
• 23:32
  Speaker 8: shifts in her child the same way my friend's clocking me.
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: And I was like, she only acts like this when
• 23:37
  Speaker 8: he's not doing what he needs to. Also, we have
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: to remember up until nineteen seventy four, women in America
• 23:42
  Speaker 8: couldn't have big accounts without their husband's being co signers.
• 23:45
  Speaker 8: And I think my Joys also comes from a different
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: generation where she can tell an opportunist or a certain
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: kind of masculine financial abuse that might be antiquated to
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: our generation, right.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: And so I think it's.
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: The instinct from knowing what it's like when a man
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: might want the big piece of chicken all the time
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: and not be thinking about you.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: And also I know my child.
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: When she's covering for someone who she wants me to like,
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: but he's probably not carrying his weight. And also there's
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: a clip on TikTok of Todd where he's with his
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: boys and he says, I don't ever plan on not
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: being outside just because I'm married.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: I just watched the right so and then he said
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: I'm always.
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: Be outside and made some comments about wanting a traditional
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: marriage where she stays home and I'm outside. We always
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: talk about women having a baby to trap the man.
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: We don't talk enough about when men are co signed
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: to have babies as a meal ticket for themselves.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Oh yes, tell it. Talk about these holbo sexual these
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: hobo sectionals.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: I think I think those ten years was his gestation
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: period to make sure that he had his meal ticket.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: And when y'all made jokes, Clauda clocked it. She said,
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: they're watching the comments.
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: He posted a daddy daycare post right after one of
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: our last shows, y'all. Not to say that he's pressed,
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: but I think he is. He posted the kids in
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: the back talking about it's me and Daddy daycare, Like,
• 25:02
  Speaker 8: I think this really is a scheme that's I set up.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: It took me a while to get here because I
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: was you know I love love.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: Do you think it was always a scheme where you
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: it became a scheme lately? Do you think he did
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: schemes like you did? Long term scheme for thirteen years?
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: Men have two Okay, this is about straight men though,
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: because you know the men up your integrity and stuff.
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: There's a too prong approach clarity, because I've had a
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: couple of male friends confessed this to me. If I
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: can break her and make her the kind of subservient
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: wife that I want, we could make this work. But
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: if I can't, I want to make sure I don't leave.
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: I'm leaving with something.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I've meant confessed.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: To me, talk about the man I'm leaving with.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: Something that get with women that are more successful than
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: them or more famous, Right, They love to humble those
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: kind of women.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: They love to humble you.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: They love to It's almost like I may love you,
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: but I definitely want to capture you and tame your power.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, but you're trying to take a sort and.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: I think candy pull more bitches? Can we say that
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: on the record.
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: I just I also think that part too, we were
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: talking about we were talking about polyamory as somebody who
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: dabbled with that.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I dabbled with a little bit everything.
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: Y'all.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: You gonna learn that you I love it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Let me explain real quick.
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: There is ethical non monogamy, and there's niggas who cheat.
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: A lot of niggas who cheat call themselves poly no
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: because you can be cheated on by somebody who's polymh Right,
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: So I think there's a lot of men who forgot
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: the ethical part of non monogamy who are now saying
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: poly because they got TikTok and it sounds cute.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they can't even spell it. It ain't before letters.
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: But anyway, yeah, I get all of that. I just
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: think if that he played the long game like that,
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: if this shit was a long time, that is like
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: insane levels of deception of the seed of you know,
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: you being sleeping with the enemy.
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: If you laying up with a motherfucker overteen year, fourteen
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: years they was together, fourteen years, married, eleven you know
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying, You having multiple children, starting businesses together
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: and ship that's just that's a that's a hell of
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: a of.
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: A two face situation. So I don't know, dog.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: I know this fine, guy that I kind of dabbled
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: with years ago.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: Right, you live in Miami. I ain't gonna hit him
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: up because his integrity is trashed. But he was fine,
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: and for a minute I liked him, And then I
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: found out the kind of nigga he was.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: Right he was. He ain't watch him. He was with
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: this right she was so she looked like hul holding
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: a little bit. But and when I say the worst
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: dB L I ever spot in my life, I was like, yo, son,
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Like he was fine too and sexy and all that.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: But I was like, I know, like, I know it
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: ain't know about looks, but I'm gonna be shallow for
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: a minute. So let me be a shallow bitch right now.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, I love yeah for.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: My makeup and hair is done. I feel like I
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: want to be more like that, like bitch. I was like,
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: what are you doing? I said, I know, I know,
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: you fucking lying. What are you doing?
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: She was older, she like like physically and she was
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: papered up. So he was playing a game where he
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: would tell her he played did all the things.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: He was present.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: Meanwhile in girls DMS and how on our girls that
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: would look nothing like what his type was like how
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: a man like when y'all brought up the fact talking
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: about saying he wanted to you, saying you want something
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: that I'm not and we don't have, is gonna piss
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: me off if you do that.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Oh I love blondes. I'm sitting here with black hair.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: Oh I want a relationship where my girl don't travel
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: and I'm not a playing every two weeks.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: That's a confect.
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: This is twenty twenty five. It's twenty twenty five. It's
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: time to throw out whatever we thought the model was
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: for a relationship.
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: We've seen time and time again where rich, wealthy men
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: have younger wives or younger girlfriends that they take care of.
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: And that's like understood. Right.
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: If the tables have turned now in society and we
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: have rich, successful women in their own right are able
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: to trick off on a nigger or whatever, I'm.
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: Fine with it.
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: My thing is not for me. I'm saying, I'm a ball,
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: not for me. I'm talking about. I'm fine with them
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: doing it. I don't think it's anything wrong with doing
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: doing that. If everybody's transparent up front, you want to
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: be a cat nigga, tell her that, Like, I'm just
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: here to be, you know, have a good time with you.
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: And my expectation is that, you know, whatever the fuck,
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: a woman might be alright with that without the emotional attachment.
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: She may be all right with an arrangement. You just
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: never know.
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: So if that's what it was doing, say it up front.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: The problem comes in when you deceive a person and
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: you do what we're talking about, which we're which some
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: people are alleging that Tide played a long con game
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: on Candy.
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: That's where the problem is.
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: When you deceived someone when you weren't upfront with whatever
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: was your intention was, that's the problem. But if rich women,
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: I've got keeping niggas, and that's what it is, and
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: let that be what it is.
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: Just be upfront with it, because I think, yeah, a
• 29:55
  Speaker 7: great pivot.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Just to be clear, though I'm seeing some I do
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: think that's how I love Candy.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: I do. I don't think he didn't love her. I
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: don't think he didn't have a lot of fun with
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: this woman. I think they had a bond. I do
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: think all of that. I saw someone in the comment
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: saying that Candy needs a billionaire. That sounds good when
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: people say that, and people say this all the time
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: power couple, Power couple, show me, show me where it
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: really works. There's always an unbalanced, right, and sometimes when
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: the woman's in the power and the man's not, he
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: feels a way so he's gonna get his get back
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: by cheating on you or humbling you. I rarely see
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: a boss woman and a boss man together where it works,
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: where they're both happy.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: It's so I don't know why.
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: It seems like there's always someone that's gonna, you know,
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: wants to be more about them. Do you what do
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: y'all think about that? Do you think it's possible to
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: truly have a power couple where equally yoked and gotta
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: going on? Or is it always like a balance, like
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: an unbalanced where he's got to figure out if it
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: works for you. I think the way rich women that
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: have men that are sorry, A lot of rich women
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: that have beta man, but he makes he makes up
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: for in other areas where he's the best support system.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: He's reliable, He you know, lets her kind of do
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: her thing.
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and I'm.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Okay with that too.
• 31:11
  Speaker 8: I think it only works if the man does not
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: want to compete with you. I think, like because think
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: about it, Steven and Oprah. Everybody keeps forgetting Stemen was
• 31:20
  Speaker 8: rich before. Oprah is a very alpha male. He just
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: doesn't want to compete with his girl and taking money
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: out of this. For a quick second, I have a friend.
• 31:28
  Speaker 8: I hope she watches his Hay girl, I'm not gonna
• 31:30
  Speaker 8: use your name. She had she broke somebody's heart several,
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: like fifteen years ago. He's been trying to get with
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: her for fifteen years. She finally got with him, and
• 31:39
  Speaker 8: he broke her heart within a month. They always tell
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: women do not take men who you've.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Curved, just the stop. They always tell.
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: Men women do not date men that you've curved, because
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: he's gonna play the long game just so that he
• 31:54
  Speaker 8: can reject you back. And so Dustin, I know it
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: sounds crazy because you're a good man, Savannah, but there
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: are lots of men who will spend years just to
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: finally be able to say if I want to humble you,
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: and if I can't humble you're gonna make you pay
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: for it. So this is not as uncommon as we
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: are framing it. You can love somebody and still want
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: to humble them.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: Don't and do not ever get with a guy that
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: says I wanted you all these years, and you curb me.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: Then you finally get with him. Oh he is going
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: to SCOOTI good d and then he's gonna unlike and
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: then go back in your face. All these years I
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: was after you, you didn't give you the time of day.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Now I can talk.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: That's a little bit too much on the nose, Like, okay, girl.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Okay, this is okay. Did you want to
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: say anything?
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: I ain't got no comment.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Okay, don't get yours ladies, don't get with your fans.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I'll make a comment.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: And on topic this is we gotta do a whole
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: other episode because this is like okay, I'll say this,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: and this is gonna be very unpopular maybe or controversial
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: on that spine, because we live in a world where
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: people don't want.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: To be honest.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Of course, in like anything is possible. Nothing's from one
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: hundred percent in this life, right. So yes, you have
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: great examples of Oprah stead Men who are still together.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I do think if I'm able to add an anecdote
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: to that is the fact.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: That they're not married.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: And Oprah Winfrey has set out of her mouth that
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: if she and Steadman were ever married, they would have
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: been divorced because she said that there's something about this
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: this are I'm paraphrasing, there's some thing that feels like
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: an ownership when you are somebody's wife or husband, that
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: they belong to you. And so she said, Look, the
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: only reason why me and Steve Man have been together.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Agree with Blue. I met stead Man. He is tall,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: handsome and a smart guy.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: I have been around Oprah and Steadman in close proximity
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: where he rubs her back and she runs his and
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: he's watching her and they have this connection.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, one thing I
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: love about the relationship is he's out of the way.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: He's out of the way.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: And when I produce her final season of a talk show,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: it never aired, unfortunately, but we were allowed to film
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Stemming at his job working and it was It was
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: a great experience. So I think, yes, there's always going
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: to be an exception to a rule. But I will
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: say this, I don't believe in couples. That's my thing.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I think it sounds great. I think day two thouth.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I think I think power couples to me are a
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: couple who are together for the sole purpose of lifting
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: one another. And when you look at someone like the
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: one example I look to is Steven Marjorie. Right, I'm
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: gonna tell you why. Uh and my rain dof know this.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I love Marjorie Harvey, Savannah James, Keisha k Or and
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Sierra and I'm gonna tell you why.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you why.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: The thing is the way Steve Harvey has said that
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I was famous and celebrity with all these things, but
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: when I met Marjorie Harvey, she provided peace in my life.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: And she provided stability.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: And she said, get that to pay off your head
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: and stop wearing these baggy ass suits. And she provided
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: and and and no, we're not gonna We're not going
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: to Miami for a vacation.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: We're gonna go.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna let's experience Paris together. And he said that
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: fueled him to be a better man. And he said
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: he looks at all the success he obtained after her
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: because she she provided something for him. I think I
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: think that the reality is this, there are a lot
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: of men who do not want to be a powerful
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: woman because unfortunately it's good in the beginning.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: But one thing Cordelle Stewart said about Porsche that I
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: will never forget.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: He said that he is a Heisman Trophy winner and
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: it was difficult for him to be introduced as Portia's
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: husband after everything he has attained.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: I think it's difficult. I think it sounds great. Well, no,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: I think, but it's the I'm with you.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I think it sounds great. I think the reality is this.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: You look at Cierra and Russell. Sierra has her own
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: career and all the things right. She she does everything.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: On her own.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: But when you when you really dissect the conversation she
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: has about Russell Wilson, she talks about the fact that
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: this man has provided peace for her and and bought
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: her masters and said.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Do the music you want to And she's not doing it.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: For a financial gains. She's doing it for her own,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: her own purpose. So I think this. I think you
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: have to find some body who really wants you to
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: be the greatest thing in the world. And I think
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: the only way that can work is if the two
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: of you, like Claudia said, if you I mean doesn't
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: said this, if you two have an honest conversation. Spoiler alert,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: there are some women out there who don't mind take
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: care of a man. It is Yeah, there's a lot
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: there are there's a lot there.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: I know somebody nameless who husband does not work.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: He doesn't work, but what he does do he fixes
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: things around the house.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: He's able to pick up the kids. She comes home and.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Everything is fixed and everything is done, and it's peaceful
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: and he doesn't mind it. He does the law, he
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: does all the handiwork.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: But it works for them.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: So I think you got to have a tough conversation
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: as couples about what works for the both of us
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: so that we can power each other. So instead of
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: being a power couple, be an empowerment couple.
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: That's right, Or be like Kerry Washington husband and shut
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: the fuck up. Kerry Washington got a famous husband and
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: they got beautiful children. They we ain't even see. You
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: don't see they ain't even seen them, you know what
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: I'm saying. So I think you're very possible. I think
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: that you just have to be very intentional about the
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: way you move and about your privacy.
• 38:20
  Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: I think that if you safeguard your privacy, you can
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: absolutely have two motherfuckerss at the top of their game
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: getting it together. You know what, I'm saying, you just
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: have to be committed to safeguarding your relationship.
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: So a man that's powerful, and I hate to generalize,
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: but I'm going to generalize. They say this something they
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: want peace, and the woman they end up choosing its
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: own that brought them peace because they're in a chaotic
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: world being a boss and getting all that money. It's
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: sharks out there, just like a successful woman. A successful
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: woman is tired of competing with men and women, and
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: when I come home, I do not want to compete
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: with my man. About once we start competing, the relationship
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: is oba.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: And power couples. Let one lose their job and see
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: what happens, or lose see what happens.
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: She's right, Guys can say something really crazy. But I'm
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: convinced now you guse have talked me into this. I
• 39:11
  Speaker 8: think if Todd and Candy had different the opposite genders,
• 39:13
  Speaker 8: they would have been perfect for each other.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: I think that.
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: Todd wanted to be a big deal and Candy wanted
• 39:21
  Speaker 8: a traditional relationship, and because the genders were swapped, it
• 39:24
  Speaker 8: was going to always be friction because he's too proud
• 39:26
  Speaker 8: as a man to want to be the beta or
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: the stay at home Dad, and she, no matter how
• 39:31
  Speaker 8: much money she makes, wants a man who's going to
• 39:33
  Speaker 8: take care of her. And I think had it been
• 39:35
  Speaker 8: the other, I think they were both wanting something that
• 39:38
  Speaker 8: the other person didn't have. Because in that clip about
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: her saying, I don't care how much a woman makes,
• 39:43
  Speaker 8: A man should be a man and provide and not
• 39:45
  Speaker 8: one half like what she was saying was something I
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: didn't see anything wrong with. But it was very traditional, right,
• 39:50
  Speaker 8: But you're in a non traditional relationship, and I think
• 39:54
  Speaker 8: that's probably part of the problem, because she wanted a
• 39:56
  Speaker 8: man to provide, and he wanted to be that man
• 40:00
  Speaker 8: he wasn't.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: She was more of that than he was.
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: See.
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: I received that a little differently, Blue. I received it
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: a little differently because I've seen Candy say on numerous
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: occasions that she never even wanted to be anybody's wife.
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: She never wanted to be in a marriage.
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: She said repeatedly that her parents had gotten divorced in
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: multiple times each you know what I'm saying, and that
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: being a wife was never a priority for her. So
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: when I heard because I've seen him clips two friends,
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: and when I heard her say that, right, I always
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: I always received that as her speaking from a place
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: of protecting her assets, right when she says things like no,
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: a man is supposed to provide and shit, I think
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: that that period of pen providing begins at the marriage.
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: That's why I think that that conversation was originated from, like,
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: now that.
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: We're married, you can do this.
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: But I think that's why she always would bring it
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: back to what would happen is in the case of
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: the marriage breaking apart, when she would say, like, well,
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: man's supposed to provide, he ain't supposed to. Won't have
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. When I saw her speak
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: about that shit, she was always speaking about it from
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: a perspective, or.
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: At least that's how I received it, right, she.
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: Was speaking about it from a place of like being
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: protective over her shit, as opposed to saying she wanted
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: to be taken care of and have a traditional, doting
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: husband who was like taking care of the bills and
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: doing that that sort of husband work.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: No, No, yeah, I get what you're saying.
• 41:23
  Speaker 8: What I'm saying is a lot of women when they're
• 41:24
  Speaker 8: single will say I will believe it when I see it,
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: And then you meet a man who you really like,
• 41:31
  Speaker 8: and Claudie, you can tell me this. You are sometimes
• 41:34
  Speaker 8: as a woman, surprised by how much traditional shit that
• 41:37
  Speaker 8: you didn't think you wanted.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: You find yourself.
• 41:40
  Speaker 8: You find yourself one thing, not because you actually want
• 41:42
  Speaker 8: him to provide, because she's a work ofhoer so I
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: was never going to happen.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: But you like the security.
• 41:46
  Speaker 8: Somebody once told me. When a woman says provide, she
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: means safety and security. She wants to know that if
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: she gets sick or falls apart, you got me. That's
• 41:54
  Speaker 8: what she actually means. She doesn't mean that she doesn't
• 41:56
  Speaker 8: want to work. She wants the option even if she
• 41:58
  Speaker 8: never uses it. And I think Candy's falling in love
• 42:01
  Speaker 8: with Todd and saying, hey, I met a good man.
• 42:03
  Speaker 8: I want to have babies with him. IM gonna do
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: life with him. I think even if she was thinking
• 42:07
  Speaker 8: this is minded, she also wants to know if I
• 42:09
  Speaker 8: never do another show, if I never saw another album,
• 42:11
  Speaker 8: do you got me? And I think he would have
• 42:13
  Speaker 8: loved to have been that, But she was more able
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: than him.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: So we have to table this and we'll move on
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: from this. No, we'll do a separate episode about that.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: But speaking of relationships. Let's get into Potomac and the
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: relationship platonic of course between Monique and Giselle Bryant. So
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: in this episode, between Monique and Giselle, these are two
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: women out the gate season three, Dustin.
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: Yep two two.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Monique came on season two, right, yep.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Goat season two. They did not get along. They they
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: just never got along. They were, you know, tons of
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: situations between the bath for them that they just said
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: things about each other. They decided to meet up Monique's
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: back as a print to the show. I want to
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: get Dustin's thoughts on what did you think when you
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: saw Monique and Josebe Bryant having one of us sit
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: down and what that conversation was like for you as a.
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: Faithful You were, yeah, well, you know, we've been watching
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: this show for ten seasons. We remember Monique's complete journey
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: up until now on the show, when she came in
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: season two and when she departed after season five. And
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: I think that Monique was kissing Jaselle's ass in that conversation,
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: and I didn't like seeing it. I felt like she
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: was way too accommodating, way too forgiving. Based on Giselle's
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: disposition in that conversation. Y'all know me personally, humility and
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: friendship and relationships, I'm all about that. Ain't no ego
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: and friendship to me, but they ain't friends. And Gazelle
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: said at that table, very much in the posturing of
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: what you got to say, so i can make a
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: decision on whether or not I'm going to be respectful
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: towards you and embrace you as a you know, a
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: new acquaintance. But I felt like Monique was kind of
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: playing the game because Monique wants to be back on
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: the Housewives of Potomac. When she was on Watch What
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: Happens Live This Sunday, there was a little blip where.
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: She was saying how next season.
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: They were asking her what she was going to show
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: something about what was going on in her life, and
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: she was like, maybe I'll show that next season. She
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: said it real quick, you know what I'm saying, and
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: Andy had cut to something else. But you could tell
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: she wasn't even comfortable saying it, because it felt like
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: it kind of gave away her intentions. Monique is coming
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: to play nice. She don't like Jaselle, Gazelle don't like her.
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: They never gon't like each other, but they do know
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: how to be housewives on the same cast, So that's
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: all that was to me.
• 44:50
  Speaker 7: There wasn't nothing.
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: I don't believe anything about what happened in that conversation,
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: but I respect it. I respect the fact that they're professionals, right,
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: and they know that in order for this show to
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: be good and to can te you, they have to
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: figure out how to cohesively work together. And I respect
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: that tremendously. So I was glad that the conversation with
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: that way. But we know what that was, Claudia.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: I would optimist on this one.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: I was like, whoa, I saw massive amounts of restraint,
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: because there's a couple of times Monique should have been like,
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: fix your face while you're looking like that, and she
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: was like, it felt like someone that used to knows
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: that I used to be off the chain and Choko
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: bitch out or punch a girl in the face, and
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: I've done some inner.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: Work maybe or or something.
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: Say she wants to be on the show, But to me,
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: it seemed more than just being the show, because I
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: saw no signs in her face of like getting ready
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: to pop off.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: It seemed like she really was coming in peace to me.
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: I mean again, I'm new as far as watching the
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: show every week, Like y'all are historians on the show.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: Y'all know the long history.
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: I don't, so I'm coming in with fresh eyes, like
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: from what I see as like a newbie.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: I'm like, wow, I saw hope there.
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: I think it won't be long term because they too
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: both to they have very big personalities and it will
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: take very little for us to go left. But right now,
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: when they both left, they seem like that you know,
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: friends that have like a little nice mess.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: Okay, I see you, I see you too. Okay.
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: I can see that being a very entertainment to entertaining
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: part of the show if they kind of you know,
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: joined forces, even if for a few episodes.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: I hope they do.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: You don't think they all less.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's gonna last. Really, am my way
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: off with them?
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: No, you're not waiting glue to loose my thoughts.
• 46:33
  Speaker 8: Well, it's so funny. I'm happy you guys went first
• 46:35
  Speaker 8: because my thoughts are both. I was like, oh, this
• 46:39
  Speaker 8: is a relief. I don't have to say much.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: I think Monique did a lot of work on herself.
• 46:44
  Speaker 8: I think she worked through a lot of trauma, got
• 46:46
  Speaker 8: clarity about her reactions and what triggers here, got control
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: of her emotions, and is now be.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: Strategic to make a check.
• 46:53
  Speaker 8: I think it's both because because on the healing, I
• 46:56
  Speaker 8: will say this, there's certain things that Monique said that
• 47:00
  Speaker 8: I was watching to see if she was faking it.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: On the EQ scale, would give Monique an A minus.
• 47:05
  Speaker 8: And the reason only reason why it's an A minus
• 47:07
  Speaker 8: is because of what Dustin said, the manipulation factor, right,
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: so you have the skill, but you're using it for
• 47:13
  Speaker 8: a covert purpose.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: I would give you Gazelle a C a C because
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Giselle was so busy trying.
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: To hit her beats on her shady moments, she was
• 47:24
  Speaker 8: losing an opportunity to create a sincere ally with a vet.
• 47:28
  Speaker 8: She was so busy trying to be nice nasty. She
• 47:31
  Speaker 8: didn't realize that. Monique was like, no, this is east
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: and east west. This is like we're at Nipsey's funeral
• 47:35
  Speaker 8: and we're trying to call a truce. Why are you
• 47:37
  Speaker 8: so shooting at me? I'm trying to get us both
• 47:38
  Speaker 8: a check and a storyline with each other because neither
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: of us have a husband like Monique is like, bitch,
• 47:42
  Speaker 8: I'm trying to get us to some place like, let
• 47:44
  Speaker 8: play it along, bitch like. So I think that was
• 47:48
  Speaker 8: being strategic. But I also do think that she did
• 47:50
  Speaker 8: some healing.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Did you know?
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I was just gonna say, when I watched
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: the thinge and to somebody who's watched the shows in
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: season one, I saw two co workers doing their job
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with that, you know, Like they're
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: they're they're, they're they're they were never friends.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: So I listened when I saw the scene.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: It's funny because on one hand, a lot of people
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: thought like it was gonna be this drag out confrontation
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: read fast. I did not think that. I've never thought that.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: I think Monique and Gazelle, that's not who they are,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: if y'all really watched the show.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: And then on on.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: On the other hand, there were people who were who
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: really thought it was going to be like we're gonna
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: like ride off to the sunset together. I thought neither.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: When I saw the coming attractions, I thought, Okay, this
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: is a moment where two people who never got along
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: are able to have an anticipated conversation that the fans
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: want to see. I think the scene for me was
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: for the fans only. It was for the people who
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: has watched the show since season two. I think Giselle
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: and Monique understood the assignment, both that were on the
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: show together.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: I think Gizille and Monique both.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Do not want to regurgitate any past beat they had,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: and I'm and I'm thankful for that. But I also
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: don't think they're going to be friends hanging out outside
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: the show. I don't think they talk on the phone together.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I think when it comes to these type of conversations,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: for me, you know, look, you you It's not like
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: when you saw Mimi and Cynthia meet after having a situation.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: They drank candy talk after the situation. Hell, when you.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Saw Giselle and Karen talk after the reunion when she
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: found out one of her parents passed away, and you
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: saw Jaselle like, let me go in your in your
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: dressing room and talk to you. So I had no expectations.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: I thought, Listen, I watched the scene. I felt nothing.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: I just felt like they showed up to work. They
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: they they both, they both did their job, and that
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: was it.
• 49:58
  Speaker 9: For me.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: I thought, it's fine.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: So I was gonna say, real quick.
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: I I thought that it looked to me like Giselle
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: was surprised that that Monique was I'm coming in peace,
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: and she was I'm ready, like I'm ready ready for
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: her to say, oh she didn't, Oh she didn't. I
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: thought she was genuinely surprised that Monique had got like
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: was very much in control of her emotions and came
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: off Barry Zen. Whether it's real or not, I felt
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: it was. But hey, I'm the newbie with this show.
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: But I think Gazelle was bracing herself a Monique and
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: then it didn't happen. She was like, oh almost almost
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: like Monique kind of won that in a way, like
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: you know when you throw your your enemies off.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: They'd be like, wait, you came, You're being cool right now.
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: And also did did just Monique say I watched her
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: house life that she wish they would have shown more
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: of the scene because Giselle did apologize and admit that
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: she did wrong, admit she did wrong.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: They didn't. So we're kind of getting sweated a little
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: bit because a deal.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah listen, they had a two hour dinner, you know,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: and and yeah.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: She did say that, speaking of watch what Happens Live.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: An audience member asked her ask Monique if she could
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: ever see herself sitting down with Canvas, and Monique said no,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: they did not have a relationship, and she doesn't see
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: the reason why she would do it. She said, Look,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: we can both look at each other and say there's
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: no beef, but that doesn't mean that there's a reconciliation
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: of being friends again. Dustin, what were your thoughts on
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: on that piece? Were you surprised that there's no room
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: on monique side for her Canvas to make amends.
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: No, because there's been no effort at any sort of reconciliation.
• 51:50
  Speaker 7: And some motherfucker.
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: Should just be done with you, know what I'm saying,
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: Like I'm just done with you. Like we fought, I'm
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: over it. I don't ever have to talk to you again.
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: And that's it. They don't like each other, and they
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: fought because they were so angry with each other. Right,
• 52:02
  Speaker 6: they didn't even fight because something had bad or something
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: so egregious had taken place between the two of them.
• 52:07
  Speaker 7: Now, what I.
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: Never understood and what I always wish that Monique would
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: have done differently the way she laid it on so
• 52:15
  Speaker 6: thick about being triggered and getting to the bottom of why.
• 52:18
  Speaker 7: They had that dust up at that bard.
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: First of all, it wasn't even a bloody, brutal brawl
• 52:24
  Speaker 6: like that. They had a little dust up over that table.
• 52:26
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, some.
• 52:28
  Speaker 7: Shit got broken.
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: Everybody could have really talked it out and moved on,
• 52:32
  Speaker 6: but Candice wouldn't let herself her position go, Monique wouldn't
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: let her position go, and both ladies ran literally ran
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: off into the sunset with their position in that argument.
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: It was never that deep with Monique, and I respect
• 52:47
  Speaker 6: her healing and the work that she's obviously done right,
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: but I don't think it had anything to do with
• 52:51
  Speaker 6: her decision to knock Candace in that fight.
• 52:54
  Speaker 7: That was not.
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: Something from the outside looking in. I'm not trying to you.
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: I ain't gotta give no fucking disclaimer. This is what
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: I'm saying. I don't believe that it required all that
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: damn healing and journey and my father and all these layers.
• 53:08
  Speaker 7: Y'all was upset. You overreacted? Canice overreacted? That was it?
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: I feel like the fans, and because of the fans commentary,
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: that whole situation just went way too fucking far, And
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: I don't think it required all this introspective work that
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: Bonique continues to attach it to instead of just saying,
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: you know what, I feel bad about my actions what
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: she did? You know what I'm saying, I feel bad
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: about my actions. I'm sorry the shit went like that.
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: I just you know, would have did differently. I don't
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: think she owed them all that introspective work and on
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: them comments about her family life, her history, her daddy,
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: all that shit.
• 53:43
  Speaker 7: It was never that deep to me, you know what
• 53:45
  Speaker 7: I'm saying.
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: So I think when it comes to them not reconciling,
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: they just don't fuck with each other. And sometimes that's
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: okay if you can respect each other, move on, you
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: know what I mean?
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
• 53:57
  Speaker 8: I think this is the manipula, the part guys, let's
• 54:01
  Speaker 8: say you went through a nasty divorce. She made that
• 54:03
  Speaker 8: really graphic story about he'll never be inside of me again.
• 54:08
  Speaker 8: I'm still with coss statement. I was like, that's a
• 54:10
  Speaker 8: lot of information in that brunch, but like, wow, I
• 54:13
  Speaker 8: think something happened to her where she has a problem
• 54:19
  Speaker 8: keeping in her emotions when it comes to colleagues, probably
• 54:24
  Speaker 8: her ex husband, whoever else I think the healing happened
• 54:28
  Speaker 8: for a myriad of really nuanced reasons, but because she's
• 54:32
  Speaker 8: healing and also being manipulative because she wants to be
• 54:35
  Speaker 8: on the show. She knew the place where it would
• 54:37
  Speaker 8: be the most accepted and get the most highlight and
• 54:40
  Speaker 8: make it into the cut was to assign it to
• 54:42
  Speaker 8: what happened with Canis.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: So that's why I think.
• 54:44
  Speaker 8: I think she's healing and being manipulated simultaneously. Where she's
• 54:47
  Speaker 8: doing things, but she's re editing where she's placing them.
• 54:50
  Speaker 8: So the audience can feel an attachment to it. Because
• 54:53
  Speaker 8: you just say, me and Chris were having bad sex
• 54:55
  Speaker 8: for about five years. I checked it in clear, I
• 54:57
  Speaker 8: don't pissed off x Y and Z and I know
• 55:00
  Speaker 8: need to go figure something out, right, Like, I don't
• 55:01
  Speaker 8: think that story would get as much attention, but assigning
• 55:04
  Speaker 8: it to her big kaboom suddenly makes it relevant. And
• 55:07
  Speaker 8: so it's interesting watching somebody who I believe is healing
• 55:10
  Speaker 8: and being manipulative simultaneously. It's fascinating to watch. Definitely a skill,
• 55:15
  Speaker 8: oh it is she's.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: Learning how to juggle on camera.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Well, one skill that somebody does have that is Ashley
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Ashley is dating.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: I'm going to have Dustin take this away because I'm
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: gonna be very honest.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: I did fast forward Ashleck's date, so I don't know
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: what happened.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Listen, y' y'all not gonna act like listen rain jobs.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Let me in the comments.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Y'all not gonna act like there are certain scenes that
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: you're just like list y'all can read me on my
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: own show. Probably be fast party scenes in your show. Okay, fine,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: thank god for remote control my thing. You know, it's fine,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: It's okay. But I literally I I'm not invested in
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Ashley dating. I I I'm not invested in it. I
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: think Ashley is doing a great job being Billain this season.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: Congratulations. I love that.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: But to see Ashley on the day, I literally fast forwarded.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: I made my ortha much rooms with a little splash
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: of paprika. I took Brody out for a walk. I
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: came back with commercial, and then I watched you know
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Greg and you know Kk's mom and you know Angel
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: get a ring.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: But so Dustin, what happened on Ashley's day.
• 56:29
  Speaker 6: A bunch of bullshitch, which is why you fast forwarded it.
• 56:32
  Speaker 6: You knew that It wasn't anything of substance or anything
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: real or relevant to a continued story that she's telling
• 56:39
  Speaker 6: on this show. Right, that's some boy that was at
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: that speed dating situation. They went on a couple of days.
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: They probably did hang out in real life once or twice,
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: but he was never a suitor for her. He was
• 56:50
  Speaker 6: never anybody that she considered for long term partnership. He
• 56:54
  Speaker 6: was never someone that can she considered having a baby with.
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: That's why she sat there at that arcade that they
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: were at on the date. Right after you dating somebody
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: you used to be married to, motherfucker in his sixties. Okay,
• 57:06
  Speaker 6: that looked like he was in his eighties. And you
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: think that she's going to be interested to go to
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: the arcade and put what pull a pinball machine, throw
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: a ski ball? Like that's not something that she's you
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, even into. And that's why she
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: was laughing when she tried to have the serious conversation
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: with him at that restaurant, talking about, you know, it's
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: been a year and had a year, I started to
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: consider things. It was fun, we were just having fun, Ashley.
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: But I will give her this credit, she did lay
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: it out what the problem was.
• 57:35
  Speaker 7: You broke You ain't got no damn money. She said it.
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: She said, financially, there's an issue. You know that you
• 57:43
  Speaker 6: can't step up the way that I need you to.
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: He said, well, how do you know what my finances
• 57:48
  Speaker 6: are or whatever?
• 57:48
  Speaker 7: And she was kind of like, we up.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 57:53
  Speaker 7: If they're throwing basketball over here, you.
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: Know what I'm saying, and pulling shit out the machine
• 57:57
  Speaker 6: over here, and there's nothing wrong with that.
• 57:59
  Speaker 7: As far as to have fun, she just was never
• 58:02
  Speaker 7: into it.
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: And I actually felt like that was kind of fucked
• 58:05
  Speaker 6: up to do to him low Ki, because you could
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: tell in his face he was a little bit more
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: into it than she was.
• 58:10
  Speaker 7: And we saw his face kind of cracking that scene.
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: So she said, you've never taken me on a trip,
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: and he said, I invite you to Pittsburgh.
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: I said, sir, he.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: Did say pittsburgh'surgh.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: Oh you don't remember I invited you on that one time?
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: What Qualia, we went to Providence, you remember that, Claudia
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Dustin Blew. I'm lon keep bad.
• 58:34
  Speaker 7: I'm just to see this sounds funny, it would have laughed.
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you this, and I I went listen
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: a woman that is really into a man, and you're
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: really into him, you can be at an arcade with
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: him and have a great time and then go home
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: and fun the ship out of him, have a electric
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: sex because you like I like spending time with you.
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: If you're not interested, you don't you don't respect him
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: because of you don't respect his career or whatever your
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: issue is.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: She was like, it feels like pulling teeth.
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: Then you feel the ridiculousness of playing video games. But
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: when you like someone and you feel it for them,
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: all that stuff is fun. You can be uh at
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: Denny's getting a French Slam and you're gonna have a
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: good time because you ride with the spirit. I went
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: to Denny's with a fifty million dollar one time. We
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: had a great time.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: It was not about money I wanted.
• 59:29
  Speaker 7: She don't like him, so that's why I like him.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: He kind of gets.
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: Planned, but it was it did feel mean like I'm like,
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: caught him on the show and on that scene to
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: to diss the hell out and tell me broke, and
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: he only offered to take it to Pittsburgh.
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: Will not even take you. I think you want her
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: to meet him in Pittsburgh. I don't know.
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: He was looking at her with that same haircut and
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: that same face that her oldest. She looked like a kid.
• 59:52
  Speaker 6: He looked like a little kid. When she said that
• 59:54
  Speaker 6: to him, he was devastated.
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: Face crag. He looked up, well, how do you know?
• 59:58
  Speaker 6: And then curls. I was like, he looked just like Dean.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: Ain't Dean the oldest one?
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 8: I was about to say, usually men who look like
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 8: her father. Now she's dating a man who looks like
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 8: her son. So but she did mention because she was
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 8: talking big Shay Carlo. She said, I'm used to dating
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 8: men who are swanky. I had a man, you know,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 8: take me to lunch on a private jet and you know,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 8: now my debut busters like it was one of those
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 8: things where swinky, time.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Out, time out, time out. My last PSCA of the night,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Claudia doesn't blue. I promise you I had a great weekend.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: I was with my girls.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this and we're going to move off
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: from it because we got to do ahole other show
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: about this, ladies.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's cute.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: It's great today the band that has means and takes
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: you to Da Da Da Da. I will say this
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: and Claudia, you stop me if I'm wrong, because Claudia has,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: like I said, she's been famous since she was ten, so.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: That Claudia knows everybody.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: I I think a lot of women who dated for money,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: they have nothing to show for it. After forty they're single,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: and they're still trying to chase the bag.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Ladies. If y'all listening, I almost say this to you.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: You don't waste your twenties and thirties chasing a rich
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: man because you're going to be single in your forties
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: and that's what you want to do in five But
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: today the man solely because you want to have a
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: lunch on a private plane. I promise you on everything
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: in life, you will never ever ever find happiness.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Use myma.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: The men who have been the most generous with me
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: have not been the millionaires. The millionaires collect you like
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: an infinity stone. You're one of many, and they'll let
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: you be rich adjacent, be around their money. But are
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: they investing your business? They're helping you do they Are
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: they gonna help you paint your fence? Are they gonna
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: like set up your equipment? For you when you're like
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: about to go on air. Are they going to like
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: be there and pick you up from the airport at
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: five am? Or they're gonna send someone to come get you.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: Are they gonna be like texting me you get home
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: on and make sure you'll home safe. I think a
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: man that doesn't have all that money is gonna put
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: a lot more effort into making you feel his strength
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: as a man. In other areas, the guys have the
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: money were the cheapest they. I remember once going up
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: shopping where this motherfucker went and shopped for himself. What
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: I watched and gave a man my opinion what jeans
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: look good on his wide hips? I was like, are
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: you no?
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: Are we talking about my fad?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: He had hips? Was he shopping outlay?
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Brian?
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 8: Where were you shopping for the hips?
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: Weather Thane?
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: I have a thing about men with hips. It freaks
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: me out a little bit.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 8: Nothing against I just it freaks me out, Like if
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 8: we're both the same, I get I can freaked out.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: I can't.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, speaking of shopping, Claudia, you have been. I
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: remember you told me what are your exes? It was
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: a high school college brought you a domin.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: Necklace or something tennis bracelet.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Tennis bracelet.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, so Claudia has definitely since she was a battye
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: back at her teen.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: Tony and still is now. He has had jewelry, you know,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: be gifted to her. Oh never mind, child.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: The year was ninety four, but he did chop that
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: off with a fake tennis bracelet.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: So we see.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: We see key Aaron Karna boyfriend Greg.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: He is going ring shopping.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: He's with Angel and he's with key kk's mom. They
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: saw rings that cost one point a all the way
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: down to one hundred thousand dollars. I thought the rings
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: looked nice. Greg looked like he did not want to
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: be there, that he was also showing up to work
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: on behalf of the fact that his lady has a
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: peach in this case of flue. I didn't listen. I'm
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: gonna say this, and y'all can read me too of
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: my own shows. If I make this happen, I think
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: I stopped doing this too, so I'm gonna brede myself.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: I do not want to watch any shopping scenes where
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: you don't come out with a bag.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see it. I don't I'm sick.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: And tired of shopping scenes on reality television where you're
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: just shopping and you don't walk out with and purchase
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: it annoys me. I don't I can do that myself.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: I can go over Deo and look at glass. Anybody
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: can do that. These shows are aspirational want we want
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: you guys to show us something that we normally don't see.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: All of us can go to a jewelry store and
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: look at everything and walk out saying, Wow, that was nice.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: So I didn't like that, Claudia, what did you think.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: Because the pressure was put on him, like he was
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: kind of damned, damned Vido, it'd be bothering this and
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: be a bunch of that wasn't enough.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: You didn't get it, the most expensive one he didn't buy.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: Ray y'all faking it. He don't want to marry you.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: That's a no win situation.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: I would have never done that scene unless the only
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: way I'm doing that scene if we me and my
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: man had to talk and be like, babe, let's if
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: you're not gonna buy the ring, let's not do it
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: because i'mnna look stupid. There's no win from that scene, like,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: oh you tried on a ring. I tried on rings too.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: I went to Tippy's and tried on all kinds of shit.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: I can't afford that shit was cute. But I left
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: with a Forever twenty one bag that day. Okay, so no,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: don't do that like up goofy, you know.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: But I don't know.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: I mean yeah, because it's it's giving.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: It doesn't help her case when she's saying he wants
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: to marry or it's gonna happen, because you know, he
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: was like, I gotta discuss it and all that. No,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: don't do a scene with me, and no diamond store,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: you ain't buy a diamond both Donna look crazy. What
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: if I say, oh, I might give you head tonight,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: and then I just stand next.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 8: To it, Claudia, that's the monic, Claudia.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: I'm not even touching my mouth, but I'm gonna make
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: it look like I might.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: I'm a great analogy nobody wants.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 7: That's mm hmmm.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: Which I'm happy you're back. I'm so happy you're back.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: I'm wrong with you, Claudia.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: I'm painfully honest.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 6: Well, since we being honest, it wasn't but one person
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 6: in that whole scene who had any business on reality television,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: and that's ms Michelle Keana's mama. Angel ain't got no personality,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: and neither do Greg. But the difference between the two
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 6: of them is that only one of them is on
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 6: the show.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 7: Angel, you got to stop, you.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 6: Know what I'm saying, This coming in coming into these scenes,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 6: trying to shift the energy to a place of reflection
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 6: and serious deep thought is not the move on these shows.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 6: Why are y'all in this jewelry store and you literally
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: take the attention of the camera and go, what but
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 6: to me here ten years ago we sat and kay
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 6: and I you know, she starts talking about this ten
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: year old memory that nobody gives a fuck about. Everybody
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 6: moved right on past. You know what I'm saying, that's
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 6: the problem. I believe that Angel is trying to present
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 6: a certain image or a certain profile to the show
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 6: that is just not at who she is or just
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 6: not her you know what I'm saying. The things that
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 6: she has chosen to take umbridge with, the things that
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 6: she has chosen to have issues about everything has just
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 6: been the wrong fucking choice when it comes to Angel.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 6: I'm so tired of everything. I'm gonna have to talk
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 6: to this person three weeks after the incident happened, because
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 6: I went home and talked to my husband and he
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 6: told me that, yeah, I do have a case when
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 6: it comes to this, you know, so to speak. We're
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: tired of hearing about a house in Colorado. We're sick
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: of at you every five minutes.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 7: What do you hear?
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, because our Colorado has yeah, you know in
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 6: our Colorado home. Well if she said that man, that
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 6: language chin saying, somebody say they chin checked you was
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 6: not that big of a deal. Okay, drug that shit out.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 6: I don't want to really, I'm not trying to ride
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 6: her like that, right, But like in this scene, it
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 6: just was like, damn, here we go.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 7: All of her was the Isley Brothers. Here we go again.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Here we go again, the
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 6: same old shit, man, the same shit. And then Greg's
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 6: ass standing up there with his shirt tucked in, and
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 7: Not buying O bring.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 6: I just feel like Keana is being made to feel
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: like she has to make this relationship work by somebody.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 7: They don't have to push it.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: They can just like get back on track, buy the condo,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 6: you know, what I'm saying, like and just just let
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: it happen when it has to happen. Kiana is a
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 6: beautiful woman with a lot of options, and I just
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 6: hope that Gregg realizes that it steps up to the
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 6: plate in the right way aka not doing dumb shit.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 6: To the jewelry store coming out with aft handed with
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 6: a business card.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: You know, would have woke that scene up.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: If I was like their homies, I'd have been like, yo,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: when we go to this diamond spot, when he stops
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: himing and han about this ring, I'm like, how about this?
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: How about this? Fuck the condo? Put the money's going
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: to use on a condo on the ring right now,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: if you really about that life, and we'll work out
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: the real estate later on. I pulled his card because
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: even if he didn't, it would have been a good scene.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: You would have put him on the spot and would
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: have made you and I'm like you saving money. Actually
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: I'm already saving you money as your wife. The ring
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: is one eighty the one that I want.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: Don't give me that.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: I want the one eighty one. The condos three hundred thousand, boy,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: I just saved you one twenty. Let's go what were doing.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: Math girl math Padia.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 8: I think we also admit that Greg would have been
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 8: more comfortable at Marshall's. Everything about it felt dusty. I
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 8: feel like my credit score went down the longer I
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 8: Will watched it. Oh my god, Dusty, it felt like
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 8: poor credit, like about a four fifty.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: I think you look at you had three fifty just
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: by having current, like just by having social.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 8: Exactly solus one hundred and also too, I do think,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 8: how do I say this nicely? Remember there was a
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 8: phase with I love Alicia Keys, but she took herself
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 8: a little too seriously and if you were like at
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 8: least she w wass youravorite color the color of freedom,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 8: and we were.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: Like, girl, come down.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 8: That's what this feels like with Angel, Like somebody told
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 8: her our nation of Maya Angelou and she keeps saying
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 8: expeditiously and using like, you know, a bunch of words
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 8: with a bunch of syllables, and I'm not sure she
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 8: fully understands because I'm still material and I just think
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: that Angel is finding out in real time that she
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 8: has no personality, and the other wags were just playing
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 8: along because Bobby started for ten years, so she's finding
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 8: out in real time that people have been lying her
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 8: and the Emperor has no clothes and that's awkward, right,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 8: no clothes, no fashions. Right, And also too, I think
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 8: also is trying to make herself feel like, oh, you know,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 8: me and KK, we can have our own storyline around
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 8: the engagement.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: They're never getting married.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 8: Can we all just say it, get a time capsule
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 8: that wedding's not happened. The plan is probably a new
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 8: todd It's to drag out this getting engaged for about
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 8: two or three.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: Seasons so that they can they can buy her some time.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: And she's on the Ashley.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 8: Darby, a layaway plan, no storyline, just beef and and
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 8: and weird wigs.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 5: Can I challenge like, can I challenge everyone to make
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 5: one sentence with the word mercurial in it?
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 6: Mm hmm, Angel, don't never say mercurial in the real
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 6: life that she lives. Angel, don't use the word mercurial
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: in her.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 8: Cause when I'm pm messing, I'm very mercurial with my ex.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 8: So it just means moody and combative, that's all it means.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 8: The whole point of talking is to communicate. If you're
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 8: using words and nobody in the Standsia, you failed.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: This has been a very mercurial episode because.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Because baby, I don't know what I don't know what
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: to say, it's hard to moderate this crowd.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: Make a confession.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: As a former journalist, I have maybe my school wasn't
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: that good until Blue just explained it. I didn't know
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: what the fuck the word mant either, So I don't
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: go chasing waterfalls and I'm not gonna use the word
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 5: that I.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: Don't know what it means.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 8: I have no Sorry. Yeah, like Cat in the Hat,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 8: please stop, Angel.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 7: You could just you could tell. And that's what makes
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 7: it be like well.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: Going to another situation that people felt forced, was Dustin,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: did you feel this this.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: Altercation, verbal altercation rain drops that.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: Occurred between Stacy and Tia and Ashley was provoked or
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: prodded or warranted. So here is Stacy. So Stacy does
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: have a cannabis line. As you know, Wendy's husband Eddie
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: has my call happy Eddie. Stacy's cannabis line doesn't. It's
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: called shi shio, which means which means happy.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: Stay Stacy.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: I love you, but you are the new media now,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: you know. Listen, Giselle decided not to go. Uh KK
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: decided not to attend the event. Wendy decided not to
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: go either, which I understood because why would you want
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: to go to a competitors, you know situation. Tia felt conflicted,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: but she decided to go anyway, and Ashley knew that. Listen,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: I have nothing else going on, so I'm gonna show
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: up to get my paycheck. Shout out to Ashley. Please
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: actually showed up. I listen, Ashley is there to do
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: a job. And I think Stacy, I think if this
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: seemed to me, I think Stacey klock who Ashley was like,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: you don't want to be friends with me, you don't
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: care about me. You're here to You're here to start trouble.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: And that's that's just that's just what you that's her
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: purpose in terms of.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: Even being at this location.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: I do think, though, that Stacy was surprised by Tia.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: And I'm although Stacey does.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: Not tell the truth often, I did find it very
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: hard to grab why Tia felt so strongly about coming
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: for Stacy. Yes, that little white live about the husband
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: to me wasn't that deep. But I felt that Tia,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, got so much information angst from these
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: other girls that by proxy she just about to have
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: a spoke with Stacy, but Baby Stacey read her for
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: Phil got up told her she can tootle do. Stacey
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: once again owned this episode. Stacey is winning Charlie Sheen style,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: and I don't think these girls understood how Stacy was
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: going to be so deliciously smart in the way she
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: handled these ladies, and last but not leads before all
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: tossed to Dustin, shout out to the best.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: Friend Aj Aj.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: AJ needs to be the new Dwight, Miss Lawrence, Derek J.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: I want to see Aj.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: Is there's something about Aj where he's able to talk
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: to Stacy and I think AJ's I think AJ's energy
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: empowers Stacey too.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: So I'm here for Aj on the show.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 6: And it was good to see him on the episode
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 6: this week because he did what he's done in every
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 6: scene we've seen him in, which is kind of ground
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 6: Stacy and bring her back to a place where she
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 6: needs to be of clarity.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 7: Right He told her cuts they motherfucking ass out. You
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. They fucking with you.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 6: They've been fucking with you every day and we calling
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 6: you all kind of liars and holes and shit, get
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 6: they ass back, and Stacey was like, you know what,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 6: she took that same finger.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 7: She pointed at Cookie. She took that same finger. She said,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 7: you know what, You're.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 6: Right, God damn it, and she changed, Listen to me.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: The Tia thing is very simple, Stacey. Tia being fake
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 6: a long time ago when they was at that swimming pool.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 7: Shit, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 6: When Tia came up to this pool when Arabella was swimming,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Tia was being fake. She
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 6: even overhearing these convers and she actually told on herself
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 6: in this episode because she was like, when I came
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 6: into this group, she was like, I heard I had
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 6: heard things about you and whatever, and I decided to
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 6: take my time, and you know what I'm saying, She
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 6: did all that and so, but she told on herself
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 6: when she said that, because obviously you've been sitting up
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 6: talking shit about me, or at least enjoying the shit
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 6: that you heard these other women talking about me, and
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 6: you decided you wanted to puck and pick, and you
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 6: are looking for something to have a problem with, which
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 6: is why you latched onto that white liar or whatever
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 6: it was that Timo said, Timo probably don't even remember
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 6: what Tia looks like.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 7: He was so detached in that scene.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 6: He was literally when she was talking to him, his shoulder,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 6: he was literally giving her the cold shoulder. He was
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 6: turning around, looking around and shit, looking to see if
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 6: Arabella was still floating. He was looking everywhere, right, because
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 6: even Timo peeped the fake shit too. Tia been being
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 6: fake as hell, and Stacey is over it when she's
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 6: already frustrated and at her WIT's end, being thrown to
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 6: the wolves of Kiana, Giselle Ashley and now hell, even cookies.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, cookie singular, not cookies, but cookie.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Even now, she's got to
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 6: deal with all of that.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 7: Do you think she's.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 6: Gonna waste her shyo time arguing with this miscellaneous random
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 6: woman who has no dog in this fight whatsoever. No,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 6: and Tiya find it somewhere else. You have a very
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 6: interesting family, and all of her kids have really big
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 6: personalities that translate well on camera. Lean into your own shit,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. Quit trying to attach yourself
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 6: to why to something, and have a beef or whatever.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 6: Just be an interesting, quirky British African lady and let
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 6: that be what your thing is, because she could carry
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 6: it that way.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 7: She falls flat when she tries to get.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 6: Into the bullshit with the women, and that's exactly what
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 6: she did with Stacy, and that's exactly why we seen
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 6: her making her exit.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: Blue to loose Ma.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 8: Well, you guys know, if Stacey has no fan, something
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 8: has happened to me. Okay, I am team Stacy. She's
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 8: absolutely shit nuts. And then when she's the thing is,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 8: don't think Stacy does better than be craz is be
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 8: saying it's actually jarring because when she lets the facade
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 8: of being crazy for camera off and she clocks a bitch,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 8: it's actually quite stunning. And I actually took some quick
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 8: notes on their last words. Tia said, I've extended my
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 8: manners and since Stacy said you want to fit in.
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  Speaker 3: So bad, and I was like, oh, that's a direct shot.
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  Speaker 8: And then and then Stacy says, you've been here for
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 8: an entire year, and now Stacy, Tia says, you've been
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 8: here for an entire.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: Year and you still don't fit in.
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  Speaker 8: And then Stacy said, that's why you're a try hard
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 8: just like your fashions to the loo and I said, now, bitch, I.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: Am obsessed with you now too.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 8: Stacy very much clocked you think that I'm the weakling
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 8: on the totem pole in the same way that Angel
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 8: thought that Wendy.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: Was the weakling.
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  Speaker 3: You both came on.
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  Speaker 8: You both came in thinking that we were gonna be
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 8: your easy targets and you're gonna climb our backs to
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 8: take our spots, and we both basically clowned you.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: To your faces.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 8: That's why when Wendy walks in the beginning of the
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 8: show and says, so, yeah, I check it, Gasee. Stacey's
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 8: a liar, but I like her, right what not the
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 8: truth of the bitter and the ass, but I like her.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 8: I think Wendy and Stacy are actually like Spider Man
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 8: Spider Man the same way that Tea and Angel are.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 8: It's just that Tea is more likable because i'mlike Angel.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 8: Tia has an interesting life in a personality, so that
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 8: makes it a little bit better for her. But I
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 8: think they both misread the room and didn't realize that
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 8: Stacy and Wendy have been waiting for their moments and
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 8: they picked the wrong time to try to pick on them.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, like that you think?
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: I really?
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 5: When I was watching, I had to rewind that last
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: thing a couple of times, and I'm like, whose side
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: am I on between those two? Like I'm like, I'm
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 5: not mad at either one of them, and I'm also
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 5: not cheering for either them. I'm like, I'm like, Okay,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 5: people said, you need to wake it up a little
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 5: bit more.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: She's interesting.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 5: You want to see more from her than she you know, See,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 5: we are viewers and being when your honor show is
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 5: different than when you are watching a show, And when
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 5: you are honored with someone, they lie a lot. Now
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 5: it's funny to us because we don't have to work
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 5: with them, but I can imagine when you're working with them,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 5: it comes off probably a little bit more annoying. And
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 5: also we got to think, what what are we not saying?
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 5: What was cut out? Because he hasn't turned up? And
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: then she churned up on this one. She churned up,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: and I was like, damn, Like what's going on here?
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: When Tia said, Stacey told her you need to have
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 5: my back with these ladies, and who's lying? Like she
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 5: Tia is mad about something like she's mad about one
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 5: of Stacy's lies. And I think, because we like Stacy,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: because she's delusional, we're giving her some more.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: Passes because when me was lying, me get in the business,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: But I have a question.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: I have a question with Claudia.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 8: If if everybody thinks, oh my god, Claudia is the
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 8: fun one and she's she's she's beautiful, x y and
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 8: Z right, and the person who you're clowning in your
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 8: head is the only one who clocks your tea out loud,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 8: I think with why Tia is mad because I went
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 8: back and on watched it.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: Everything was cool when Tia thought that Stacy was.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 8: The punchline, right, but when they were when they were
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 8: at the table. If Clauda, if you tell me Blue,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 8: I can't come to dinner because me and my man
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 8: are doing something. But the truth is your man doesn't
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 8: like my man, and you don't want to hurt my feelings,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 8: so you're lying to me as a coworker and making
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 8: up a soft white lie because you don't want to,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 8: you know, be messy. And then I go to dinner
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 8: with Carlos and Dustin and I say, now, what's up
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 8: with Claudia and her man. Why didn't they come? Is
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 8: everything okay? Something's odd there? And I suddenly turned you
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 8: saying you don't want to come something that you're entire
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 8: you're allowed to say into a discussion, and now Dustin
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 8: costs and says, now, Claudia, why are you being weird
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 8: about not wanting to bring your man around us? And
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 8: you say to me, hey, Blue, why are you being messy?
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 8: That was the first time anybody had ever really clothed
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 8: that Tia was trying to create a moment, Like Stacey
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 8: clocked it that Tia.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: Was trying to make a moment.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 8: And I think that's why made her mad, because she
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 8: was stunned that she be read by the very bit
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 8: she thought.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: Was a punchline.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 7: That's right all the time.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 8: The one person I thought was a clown is the
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 8: one person who clocked me. And there's no loll because
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 8: Stacy is usually fun. Stacey was stern, like, why are
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 8: you doing this right now? And she was expecting that.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 8: I don't think that it's a lie. I think it's
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 8: the one time Stacey sold the truth. It was pointing
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 8: at her and she wasn't expecting it.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 6: I agree one hundred and fifty percent blue. That's your
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 6: motherfucking right, That's exactly what happened. Tia could not handle
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 6: the fact that this person who she assumed to have
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 6: some sort of dominance over in some way was actually like, actually,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 6: hell on now and another motherfucker you know what I'm saying,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 6: and got her, So I agree totally.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 4: I also I also look at it like.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 5: Being have been on the other side. What can be
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 5: looked at as Tea is being fake or she was?
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: Is it?
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 5: Or did she get show notes notes from her producer, Hey,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 5: you're gonna go in there and you're gonna talk to
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 5: Stacy about this, And then I've had to do that,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 5: and especially in the first year, you like you do
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 5: they tell you to do because you're thinking you can't
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 5: say no.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: So I don't know, like I want to, I'm.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 5: Gonna wait till the end to because I still feel
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 5: like I don't know who side of them on and
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: that because I do think. Listen, this show is in particular,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 5: we saw it from the beginning. They pick one person
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 5: who they think is weak, and they all gang up
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 5: on that one person. First it was Stacy's breath, right,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: all had every single one of them made a comment
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: which I'm like, damn. Then you see them a couple
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: weeks later they're all key caning. Then it was Angel's turn.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 5: They all and I don't like that they do that.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 5: I do not like when they do that, like stand
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 5: on your own with your own personal thing, because it
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 5: gives like mean girl gang righty, like they like it.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 8: Actually said my feet had been held to the fire,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 8: states too, You'll have to go through this.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: Why are you upset?
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 8: Actually it's the same basically being toxic and saying we
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 8: all get hazed? Why are you standing up for yourself?
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: But that's why Claudia is right in the sense of
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: I think, listen. My only note I believe I.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: Said this last season. I mean that last season last week.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: The only note I have Potomac is I do want
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: these girls to develop a friendship outside of the cameras,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: because the only friends on that show this current cast
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: is Ashley and Gazelle meeting girls who really do talk
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: to each other and hang out off season. I think, unfortunately,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: and I don't know what, I think. Gizilla has to
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: make it happen because she's the anchor of the show.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: But I would encourage these girls to hang out when
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: you guys aren't filming.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: Because when I watched the show I do to me.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: Potomac is the show that I watched. I'm like, do
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: y'all even like each other outside of filming? Like even
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: with Wendy, who I love? Was they show the flashback
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: of Wendy probably want to them with Stacey and Wendy
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: for the second time look at the camera, and for me,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: it was sort.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: Of like, you're not even present, you know what I mean?
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: Like like like for me, it was sort of like,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: I'm here working. And that's why I said early about
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: Gazella Monique seing I just see again.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: The scene wasn't bad. I just felt like, I don't
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: feel anything. Let me see Monique and Canvas sit down.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: I could feel something. Let me see Robin and Monique
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: sit down. I think I'll feel something. I think what
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: Claudia is saying is interesting in the sense of I
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: think Stacy really did just look at her like, you're
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: all of you girls are coming for us, because we're not.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: We're not hand picked by Gazelle, and y'all think we're
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: on the chopping block. I think Angel got a rude
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: awakening when she thought Gizelle was gonna pick her and
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: Giselle did not, and Gazelle wanted her to come for
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: her when Gazelle said two weeks ago last week, I
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: said you catfish, and it was asked if Gazelle never
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: said anything. And when Wendy got her good, Angel had
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: nothing to do but to go home and to her
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: husban what happened.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: So that's my only note when it comes to these girls.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: I really, I really.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: It's such a great show and it has so much
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: like this season is so good that I would just
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: want them to really be friends off camera.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 5: This is why it's hard to keep up as a newbie,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 5: because I'm like, wait, why are you mad? It's like
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 5: it kind of goes like with a wave, like you're like,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 5: it's a fake it's a fake issue.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 4: It's a fake issue. There's no stakes because Okay, if
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: someone said a group text, okay, we're gonna get Stace
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: this week.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 5: Okay, everybody gonna stay her breast thinking okay, cool, Well.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 4: I'm not invested in that.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 5: I'm invested in Uh okay, I have to have an
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 5: awkward conversation with someone that I really like, but they
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: pissed me off last week. That's where it's like, that's interesting,
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 5: we can all relate to that. But like some of
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 5: these like surface beefs are like hmm, and they work
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 5: hard for their checks on that show. Like I would
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 5: be exhausted in that friend circle or even as coworkers
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 5: with them, because yes, it's entertaining and talent.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 4: I think Potomac is mad entertaining.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 5: But would take it to the next level to me
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 5: is that there was higher stakes by being real friendships.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: Wendy and Stacey.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 8: I'm telling you, please put it out there, Wendy and
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 8: Stacy if you can hear the voice, because you nobody
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 8: watches Carlos show. Y'all need to be the new Green
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 8: Eyed Bandits. I would watch that show.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 6: Their pair together in the after show this season too.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 6: Wendy and Stacey do their after show tapings together this season,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 6: and they make.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 7: A great pair.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 6: Wendy, excuse me, Stacey show Wendy Hella Love and Bravo
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 6: Khan on the stage.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 7: She was very supportive.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 6: They have a budding, growing friendship that appears to be real.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 6: But I believe that Wendy understands the power of being
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 6: a vetted senior, you know, tenured housewife and putting her
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 6: arm around the shoulder of the lady that everybody's picking on.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 6: So I want I questioned that piece, but it makes
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 6: for a.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: Great Karon Huger. She's pulling Karen Huger, Karen Stilways.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: Do that, you know? All Right? I enjoyed the episode.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: All Right, raindrops love y'all. We'll see you guys next Monday,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: all Right.
• 1:29:14
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• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: With the Lack Effect Network.
• 1:29:25
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• 1:29:27
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