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- 0:00Speaker 1: Chris Myers as the call of Panthers Jaguars on the
- 0:04Speaker 1: NFL on Fox. Is this your twenty fifth year on Fox?
- 0:08Speaker 1: Is that right, Chris?
- 0:09Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about Yeah, it's about fifteen or eighteen?
- 0:12Speaker 1: Do it yet?
- 0:12Speaker 3: Well? Almost? Yeah, almost twenty doing NFL. Yeah it is.
- 0:16Speaker 2: It's over twenty NFL and twenty five with the network,
- 0:19Speaker 2: as I did NASCAR Baseball, and of course I was
- 0:22Speaker 2: at ESPN ten years before. That's to JP. What you're
- 0:25Speaker 2: saying is, I've been around a long time. I've been
- 0:27Speaker 2: around a long time, so I have seen a lot
- 0:29Speaker 2: of football like a fan, but I've also had It's
- 0:32Speaker 2: been great the access to sit in meetings with players
- 0:35Speaker 2: and coaches through the years, you know, from superstars to
- 0:38Speaker 2: head coaches. Watched them come and go, from Belichick to
- 0:41Speaker 2: Brady to whomever. So yeah, it's been It never gets
- 0:44Speaker 2: old to me because I'm a fan at heart and
- 0:47Speaker 2: that's what I'm grateful for. And I love the you know,
- 0:49Speaker 2: opening weekend because everybody has a chance and it's optimistic
- 0:53Speaker 2: for the NFL.
- 0:54Speaker 1: You've seen it all and you know what, you've probably
- 0:57Speaker 1: seen a player play both ways in the NFL. Well,
- 1:00Speaker 1: it hasn't happened a lot.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Yeah, you know ce Travis Hunter, right, I haven't gone
- 1:05Speaker 2: back to the Chuck bed Derek days. I think that's
- 1:07Speaker 2: about what I was born in the early sixties. But
- 1:10Speaker 2: he to me was the true And again that's not
- 1:13Speaker 2: the Super Bowl era right with the Eagles, but I'm
- 1:16Speaker 2: talking about a full time I really think we're on
- 1:18Speaker 2: something here that's never been done before. This is Otani
- 1:21Speaker 2: like going with Babe Ruth Historically in baseball, of course,
- 1:26Speaker 2: football is much more physical to do the kinds of
- 1:28Speaker 2: things he plans to do, hopes to do, and I
- 1:31Speaker 2: think that the Jags hope to do. But there were
- 1:33Speaker 2: you know, there were guys like Troy Brown who I covered,
- 1:35Speaker 2: Deon Sanders who played both ways. There was even a
- 1:38Speaker 2: game in which Edelman Julian Edelman, believe it or not,
- 1:40Speaker 2: played the twenty five snaps plus at receiver and twenty
- 1:44Speaker 2: or so as a defensive back when they needed him
- 1:47Speaker 2: in the Belichickerry. But that's not like this guy. That's
- 1:49Speaker 2: not like what we saw him do to win the
- 1:51Speaker 2: Heisman and like and what we anticipate depending upon his
- 1:55Speaker 2: health and all the other factors. So we're really excited
- 1:58Speaker 2: about this. I know the NFL and Fox pregame show
- 2:01Speaker 2: is doing a special, lengthy feature on this aside from
- 2:05Speaker 2: us Mark Flaerth and I call him the game and
- 2:07Speaker 2: so it says a lot about not only the importance
- 2:10Speaker 2: of this game for the teams involved, but the kind
- 2:12Speaker 2: of attention that he is commanding and rightfully so.
- 2:17Speaker 1: Clearly another change in Jacksonville this offseason. New coach, new GM,
- 2:22Speaker 1: new structure of the organization, everything involved. But Liam Cohen
- 2:26Speaker 1: now the head coach in his late thirties. You do
- 2:29Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay preseason, so you had some first hand
- 2:32Speaker 1: looks at Liam Cohen over the last year. So what
- 2:37Speaker 1: he did with Baker Mayfield last year is pretty remarkable.
- 2:40Speaker 1: And that Tampa Bay offense they'd like to they obviously
- 2:44Speaker 1: would love to replicate that with Trevor Lawrence here. What
- 2:46Speaker 1: did you make of the Cohen higher and how he's
- 2:49Speaker 1: establishing the culture in this organization.
- 2:52Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I've been optimistic a guy from Florida
- 2:56Speaker 2: about the Jags moves from whether it was Doug Peterson
- 2:59Speaker 2: Orban Meyer. I mean, gotta go backwards here, but they
- 3:01Speaker 2: I think ownership tried to do the right thing. Those
- 3:03Speaker 2: guys were proven, they were successful at football. What they
- 3:06Speaker 2: did didn't work out here this this feels better because
- 3:10Speaker 2: of the way they did it. The Gladstone Vaselli Cohen.
- 3:14Speaker 2: I know it sounds like a law firm, but it's
- 3:16Speaker 2: it's good football minds with good backgrounds. I've known Vasilli
- 3:20Speaker 2: for years. They dabbled in the broadcasting side, even with Fox,
- 3:23Speaker 2: so we love him the knowledge there. Gladstone comes from
- 3:26Speaker 2: a ram organization that gets the draft as well as
- 3:30Speaker 2: using veterans, which we've seen sprinkled in with this year's
- 3:33Speaker 2: team to try to have success. But Liam Cohen, yes,
- 3:36Speaker 2: Ronde Barber and I have done the preseason games for
- 3:38Speaker 2: the Buccaneers over the last you know, few years, and
- 3:42Speaker 2: he hit right away. We were on the bandwagon again.
- 3:45Speaker 2: Dave Canalis. That's what's interesting about this game.
- 3:47Speaker 3: JP.
- 3:47Speaker 2: You get, you know Dave Canalis, who was a first
- 3:50Speaker 2: year play caller with Tampa Bay and he did some
- 3:53Speaker 2: good things with Baker Mayfield and that offense in Tampa,
- 3:57Speaker 2: and then right away he's hire as the head coach
- 3:58Speaker 2: in the divisions. That was really just a year of
- 4:01Speaker 2: that and now you know Liam Cohen, the first time
- 4:03Speaker 2: play caller as a head coach excuse me as a
- 4:06Speaker 2: OC in the NFL last year with the Bucks and
- 4:09Speaker 2: then he gets elevated, although again he briefly worked with
- 4:13Speaker 2: and set credits as you know by now, Sean McVeigh
- 4:15Speaker 2: with the dabbled in Los Angeles with helping build up
- 4:19Speaker 2: his his offensive approach, and he was in college with Kentucky.
- 4:22Speaker 2: But anyway, my point is we saw in him the
- 4:25Speaker 2: same kinds of things we saw in Canalis, and he
- 4:27Speaker 2: even did a better job with with the offense in
- 4:31Speaker 2: Tampa Bay. So I'm optimistic, and I hate to call
- 4:34Speaker 2: somebody a quarterback whisperer when they've only been doing something
- 4:36Speaker 2: for a year or two. But he does connect well
- 4:39Speaker 2: with the quarterback. He sees things physically, but he also
- 4:43Speaker 2: really works the mind. Baker Mayfield talked about that how
- 4:46Speaker 2: you know you're in it together. He finds your strength,
- 4:49Speaker 2: he gives you the best chance to have success, but
- 4:51Speaker 2: he also helps you clear up or clean up your weaknesses.
- 4:55Speaker 2: And the greatest thing I've heard about him is defensive
- 4:58Speaker 2: coordinators around the league when we we covered the team
- 5:00Speaker 2: even in the regular season, that he's really a step ahead,
- 5:03Speaker 2: and he had just with that step ahead in the
- 5:07Speaker 2: play calling with whatever defense, not from series to series,
- 5:10Speaker 2: but from play to play. It's almost like what Bill
- 5:13Speaker 2: Belichick used to do on defense when he was coaching
- 5:16Speaker 2: in New England. So all that in place, I'm expecting
- 5:20Speaker 2: and we've all been waiting for Trevor Lawrence to really
- 5:22Speaker 2: hit it big.
- 5:23Speaker 3: And it may not happen right away.
- 5:25Speaker 2: I've already heard and seen some things in this preseason,
- 5:29Speaker 2: so I'm very If I'm a Jags fan, I'm really
- 5:32Speaker 2: optimistic about these hires and this year and some of
- 5:37Speaker 2: the other things that we can get into. But the
- 5:39Speaker 2: key is always if you've got the quarterback and the
- 5:41Speaker 2: coach that can make things happen, you're gonna win games.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Chris Myers with us NFL on Fox has to call
- 5:47Speaker 1: the Panthers and the Jaguars matchup whole new defense too.
- 5:50Speaker 1: I mean, this is a battle of defenses in this
- 5:53Speaker 1: game that were thirty first and thirty second in the league.
- 5:56Speaker 3: Yeah, a little ugly.
- 5:58Speaker 1: Obviously, but you know, year, new scheme, some new personnel
- 6:02Speaker 1: on the back end for the Jags and on the
- 6:04Speaker 1: interior of the d line. The unknown in Week one
- 6:08Speaker 1: is everywhere, but certainly on the defensive side. I think
- 6:11Speaker 1: for both teams in this.
- 6:12Speaker 2: Game, especially for the Jags too with with new coordinators,
- 6:16Speaker 2: right that are all kind of in that position for
- 6:19Speaker 2: the first time, including the head coach. But I but
- 6:22Speaker 2: I like, you know, we've seen so much of Josh
- 6:25Speaker 2: heinz Allen over the years, but even the and the
- 6:28Speaker 2: other picks and Walker and Lloyd, You've got Holikin who
- 6:31Speaker 2: does his job. But I like the little moves of
- 6:32Speaker 2: the Colin Saunders and Emmanuel Ogba, you know, and getting
- 6:36Speaker 2: to improve the pass rush and then a veteran Jordan
- 6:39Speaker 2: Lewis and the secondary. I think those were good things
- 6:42Speaker 2: along with what the team did in the in the
- 6:44Speaker 2: draft in other areas as well. So yeah, these are
- 6:48Speaker 2: two so the good news. And I always, you know,
- 6:50Speaker 2: the crew always teases me, Chris, you always root for overtime.
- 6:52Speaker 3: We're gonna miss our flights, And I'm like.
- 6:54Speaker 2: Yeah, but that means that we had a good game
- 6:56Speaker 2: and there was both teams were in it. But I
- 6:58Speaker 2: think we're gonna see some scoring, especially with you add
- 7:01Speaker 2: in the kicking game and the new rule out of
- 7:03Speaker 2: the thirty five yard line with the touchback. But yeah,
- 7:07Speaker 2: I think the players I'm sold on in that Jacksonville
- 7:10Speaker 2: defense and Anthony Campanelli, I'm not you know, you can
- 7:14Speaker 2: only read things. I haven't seen a lot of him,
- 7:16Speaker 2: you know, just like Liam Cohen says, I think, you know,
- 7:18Speaker 2: I think I know what I'm doing as a head
- 7:19Speaker 2: coach and play coler and it's been until we play
- 7:21Speaker 2: it out, we don't know. On the other side, they
- 7:24Speaker 2: had a lot of Carol Yeah, both of these defenses,
- 7:27Speaker 2: and we had them a few times during the course
- 7:29Speaker 2: of the year. They do have Derrick Brown back he
- 7:31Speaker 2: went out on the first play last year, had surgery,
- 7:34Speaker 2: They had some injuries, hit some key guys.
- 7:36Speaker 3: He's he's the main guy up front for them. J C.
- 7:40Speaker 3: Horns the great, the great cover guy.
- 7:43Speaker 2: After that, there's a lot of you know, there's some
- 7:46Speaker 2: concern there too about where's more of the pass rush.
- 7:49Speaker 3: You know, they have a very good defensive.
- 7:50Speaker 2: Coordinator and Gero Everrow who has had some success in Denver,
- 7:54Speaker 2: and it's hard to judge what he's done here because of
- 7:57Speaker 2: some of the players that they traded away to well,
- 8:01Speaker 2: he was there, but prior to the arrival of Dave Canowen's.
- 8:05Speaker 1: Chris Myers with a CNFL on Fox, we we mentioned
- 8:08Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, a number one overall pick, quarterback Brice Young
- 8:11Speaker 1: on the other side for Carolina entering year three, you know,
- 8:15Speaker 1: what's the what's the progression for Bryce Young for Carolina
- 8:20Speaker 1: and is he still on the right track. It felt
- 8:24Speaker 1: like he made some strides towards the end of last season.
- 8:27Speaker 3: Yeah, he did.
- 8:27Speaker 2: And it's funny we called his first game in the
- 8:29Speaker 2: NFL and it was. It was abysmal and obviously different
- 8:31Speaker 2: head coach, different offensive coordinator, wasn't as much around him.
- 8:36Speaker 2: And I have his last three games last year, watched
- 8:41Speaker 2: them closely. I think you had seven touchdowns, no picks,
- 8:45Speaker 2: and he looked really comfortable, taking advantage of what he
- 8:50Speaker 2: did in college, the moving around, not to run, but
- 8:53Speaker 2: moving around to make a throw, whether it's a five
- 8:55Speaker 2: yard checkdown or twenty yard or downfield.
- 8:59Speaker 3: So he's developed.
- 9:00Speaker 2: I think when they benched him last year under Canalis
- 9:03Speaker 2: early in the year, I think he sat and learned
- 9:06Speaker 2: a little bit. But what the team rallied around with
- 9:09Speaker 2: him was that he ran the scout team with enthusiasm.
- 9:13Speaker 2: He didn't pout complain that Andy Dalton stepped in. I
- 9:16Speaker 2: think they knew what they were doing Canalys is very
- 9:18Speaker 2: much that Pete Carroll, you know, psychotherapist, raw motion guy,
- 9:22Speaker 2: and he got it out of Bryce Young. And when
- 9:24Speaker 2: he came back, I mean they had games against the
- 9:25Speaker 2: Eagles and the Chiefs. They didn't win, but they took
- 9:28Speaker 2: him to the wire and he had big plays in
- 9:30Speaker 2: that game with limited i think limited offensive resources. So
- 9:34Speaker 2: he's progressed nicely. And I gotta say it's been dramatic
- 9:37Speaker 2: because we compared him to C. J.
- 9:39Speaker 3: Stroud.
- 9:39Speaker 2: They came out in the same year and Stroud could
- 9:42Speaker 2: have been picked ahead of him, and Stroud's been to
- 9:43Speaker 2: the playoffs back to back years but trended a little
- 9:47Speaker 2: downward last year Stroud did, whereas Bryce.
- 9:50Speaker 3: Young kind of went the other way.
- 9:52Speaker 2: So his mobility, his understanding, his comfort level, I think
- 9:56Speaker 2: more than anything with his head coach.
- 9:59Speaker 3: Which is what would excite me too.
- 10:00Speaker 2: About the jag side of things with Cohen and Trevor Lawrence,
- 10:04Speaker 2: I think, you know, we judged too harshly. I think
- 10:07Speaker 2: where he was picked is the reason that we judged
- 10:09Speaker 2: as harshly as we did. But he's a much better
- 10:12Speaker 2: quarterback and I saw it each of the first two seasons.
- 10:15Speaker 2: Interesting to see it here on the road against the Jags.
- 10:18Speaker 1: All right, Chris, let's wrap with this. Are you buying
- 10:22Speaker 1: the Jaguars being in the division race year one of
- 10:26Speaker 1: this whole new reboot here or is it going to
- 10:28Speaker 1: take a little bit of time?
- 10:29Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say yes.
- 10:31Speaker 2: I saw the couple of reasons for the other teams
- 10:34Speaker 2: in the division. Let's be honest, it's not a great division.
- 10:36Speaker 2: The NFC South gets the same kind of kind of label.
- 10:40Speaker 2: I don't know how much better some of those other
- 10:42Speaker 2: teams got. I think Houston last year we saw some
- 10:45Speaker 2: and I'm still a believer in strowd some deficiencies there.
- 10:49Speaker 2: The Jags seem to match up well with them when
- 10:51Speaker 2: they do run into them. But I would say a
- 10:54Speaker 2: lot of it is the connection that I saw and
- 10:57Speaker 2: I have felt with Liam Cohen, and then he'll do
- 11:00Speaker 2: his part. I think Trevor Lawrence knock on woods staying healthy. Uh,
- 11:05Speaker 2: And you know, I like the little other move that
- 11:07Speaker 2: Diamie Brown, you know, adding a guy like that. So
- 11:09Speaker 2: I'm in Washington though, we hope that Brenton Strange is
- 11:12Speaker 2: ready to develop. Not sure about the running game around
- 11:15Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. And I always said to no matter what
- 11:17Speaker 2: kind of quarterback you are in the NFL. You need
- 11:20Speaker 2: to run, make the make some plays with your legs,
- 11:23Speaker 2: you know, three to five times a game somehow, whether
- 11:25Speaker 2: it's running, whether it's a quarterback keeper or running for
- 11:28Speaker 2: first down on third and eight and you scramble. We
- 11:31Speaker 2: know that Trevor can can do those those kinds of things.
- 11:34Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that they're in the end. You know,
- 11:36Speaker 2: It's funny nationally people have gone around you hear him talk,
- 11:40Speaker 2: and maybe you've heard it there in Jacksonville as well,
- 11:42Speaker 2: that Uh, they'll say, who's okay, we got the favorites.
- 11:45Speaker 2: You know who's coming, who's the upcoming team? The people
- 11:47Speaker 2: are really expecting, and you do you do hear the
- 11:51Speaker 2: Jacks mentioned, which I think is a compliment to the
- 11:54Speaker 2: changes they made from the front office. Uh, to anybody
- 11:56Speaker 2: who's met and watched Trevor Lawrence play from his college
- 11:59Speaker 2: days knows that I can win. So I think that's
- 12:02Speaker 2: where it'll start with the question. I would say, can
- 12:04Speaker 2: the defense do its part as long as Trevor stays healthy,
- 12:08Speaker 2: running game does enough, I think you're in the division
- 12:10Speaker 2: race for those reasons.
- 12:13Speaker 1: Chris, You're the best. It's always crossover season for you,
- 12:16Speaker 1: but thanks for taking some time.
- 12:18Speaker 2: Yeah, no exciting with the baseball postseason, but nothing beach
- 12:22Speaker 2: NFL Sundays. And one other note on Bryce Young. He's
- 12:24Speaker 2: really gonna miss Adam Thielen.
- 12:27Speaker 3: That was what he was.
- 12:28Speaker 2: He was his right hand man. We saw it in
- 12:30Speaker 2: meetings and emotional and so I hope he can overcome
- 12:33Speaker 2: that early, which is why this this game, I think
- 12:36Speaker 2: is going to be be a close one, going to
- 12:37Speaker 2: be a good one and always have a good time
- 12:39Speaker 2: getting getting back to Florida. The heat may be a
- 12:42Speaker 2: little advantage already. The Panthers are talking about it because
- 12:44Speaker 2: they had a cool training camp up there in Carolina.
- 12:47Speaker 2: So take any advantage you guys can get. But thanks
- 12:49Speaker 2: for having me on