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Sexual Liberation Is Political Control with E. Michael Jones | Libido Dominandi | Culture Wars · Virtuous Leaders with Dr. Johann D'Souza

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This is Virtuous Leaders, the podcast for based Catholics who
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will speak truth, do good, or die trying.
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Here's the show. E Michael Jones, the founder of
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Culture Wars, probably the most cancelled guest I've had so far.
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The pleasure to be with you here.
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Good to be here, Good to be here.
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OK so you came out with this book Libido Dominandi cool
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title. Don't exactly know what it means
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or what the book is about. You are a formidable
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intellectual. Can you please walk us through
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why you wrote this book? What is the thesis of it?
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OK, libido dominanti comes from Saint Augustine, the city of
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God, and it means the dominating lust, the lust to dominate,
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let's say the lust, the desire to dominate other people.
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But the word libido has taken on a new term ever since Sigmund
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Freud, which now means sexual desire.
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So sexual desire dominating the the, the domination of sexual
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desire. That's what the book is about.
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The subtitle is Sexual Liberation and Political
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Control. Actually, the domination by
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libido, the domination by sexual desire, that's what the book is
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about. So I published, it came out 25
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years ago. Now it's 26 years ago, and after
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a long period of writing about sexual issues, I had already
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written that Libido Dominant, and I'm sorry, I'd already
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written Degenerate Monitors, and that's about rationalized sexual
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misbehavior is basically the the hidden grammar of modernity.
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And so I did. People like Sigmund Freud and
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Margaret Mead and Picasso. The only way you can understand
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Picasso's shift in art is by looking at his sex life.
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So I said modernity was rationalized sexual misbehavior.
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And then at a certain point I realized there's a much bigger
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picture here. I did the same thing with music,
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with Dionysus Rising, do the same thing with architecture.
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And then I suddenly realized you could write a history of how
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this idea developed. In other words, not the idea of
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sexual lust that's been around for a long time, but the
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political mobilization of sexual lust as a form of control.
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That's that was a thesis that came out of it and it began with
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the Marquis decade and the French Revolution.
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But I took as the picture on the cover and it's kind of the
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biblical paradigm is Samson and Delilah.
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Now this, this is in a sense the political mobilization of lust
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or the the military mobilization of lust.
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Samson could not be defeated. He was unconquerable.
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But then he had this weak point, which was his sexual passion,
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and Delilah knew that, and she cut off his hair and she
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enslaved him, and then they cut out his eyes.
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This is a significant symbol here because, as Thomas Aquinas
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says, lust darkens the mind, and this is what lust does to you.
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You become like a raging lion and all you're interested in is
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that that antelope there, and you're going to eat the
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antelope. And oh wait, am I just fell into
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a trap because I wasn't paying attention?
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That's exactly what happens to people when they are dominated
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by lust. And that was promoted
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systematically beginning with the French Revolution.
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So you had the Pele Royale. And the Pele Royale was run by
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the King's cousin, the Marquis, the Philippe Doliam.
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And they produced pornography as the in the, the what was it?
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What was it? The Pele Royale, The Pele
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Royale. They produced pornography and
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one of the foremost produces of pornography, but after during
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this period was the Marquis decade and he did a book called
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the Justine, which was basically a kind of combination of
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pornography and political theory, which is also important
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because he was clearly thinking along these lines and and
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clearly a revolutionary, but clearly a sexual revolutionary.
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So the reaction to the revolution came from the Vaughn
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day, the Catholics in the West and they marched on Paris and it
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was Napoleon who who destroyed them and that's how he became
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the head of the Republic, took over as the tyrant.
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But the Marquis decides said that the revolution is based on
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passion motion. And so in order to arouse to
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save the revolution, you have to arouse sexual passion.
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And he said suggested that they exhibit women naked in the
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theaters. Now that's a confronted
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immediately with the technological problem.
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Easy. You have a big theatre, in which
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case the people in the last row can't really see the women.
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Or you have a Little Theatre, in which case you don't have a lot
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of people. You're mobilizing.
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So this is a technological problem and it was solved by the
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invention of the camera, which took place in in France around
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the middle of the 19th century. And now you can have images that
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you could make that were very, you didn't have to have
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paintings. Pornography could be mass
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produced now through photographic images.
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And you could, you know, submit them, you know, and get people's
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passions around. That took a big step forward
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with the creation of the motion picture camera, which took place
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when Edison invented it in the early 20th century.
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The Jews stole the invention, led to the lawsuits that are
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probably still going on today, and they created Hollywood, and
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Hollywood was the Center for film in the United States and
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eventually the world. And the Jews immediately used
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this technology to subvert the morals of the American people,
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because that's what they do. Invariably, they're always
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involved in pornography. The head of the biggest
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pornographic site, Pornhub, is a rabbi, and he's there because he
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wants to lend religious credibility to something that is
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always been a form of Jewish control.
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So now you have the production, the people of the United States
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who were always much more moral when it came to sexuality than
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people in Europe being upset someone's got to do something
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about this. And so they asked Will Hayes,
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We, we're, let's get back to America at that .3 ethnic
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groups, Protestant, Catholic, Jew, no matter where you come
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from, that's the way you end up as an American.
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Everybody speaks English, the distinguishing characteristic is
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your religion. The Protestants are upset.
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They are the dominant group in the 1920s.
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They are upset. They hire Will Hayes to bring
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Hollywood in line and he fails because Hollywood could always
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buy you off. They want some lots of money.
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So at this point, the Catholics step up to the plate and they
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call a boycott of Hollywood films.
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Cardinal Docherty calls a boycott in Philadelphia and he
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basically brings the the the the Jews in Hollywood are now deeply
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in debt because they financed talking pictures in 19291933.
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The head of the Bank of America says I'm not going to lend you
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any money anymore unless you straighten up.
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And so the Jews basically back down and they initiated the
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production code after this boycott by the Legion of Decency
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and that said no nudity, no films and so on and so forth.
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Now 1933 is a crucial year here because in Germany, Hitler
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Kent's power in 1933 and also in 1933, you have the, the Jewish
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explanation of this and it's called the psycho, the mass
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psychology of fascism by my and by the name of Wilhelm Wright.
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He was a Jew, he was a psychiatrist, he had studied
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under Sigmund Freud and he was a communist.
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And so these are the two aspects that come together in the the
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New Left understanding of politics.
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It's basically a combination of psychiatry.
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How does sexual sexual libido fit into a political process?
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And he picked up the same right pretty much after the Marquis
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decide. And he said he dealt with women
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in their in his practice as a psychiatrist.
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And he said they're inhibiting. How do we break this in
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inhibition among women so that they can masturbate?
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Basically, he thought he was a promoter of masturbation.
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And the answer was mass situations like, what would we
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say? Woodstock was a classic example
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of what we're talking. You get all these people
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together listening to Diane Icy and music and arousing the
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sexual passions, and suddenly the women's inhibitions die off
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and they start acting out. That was his solution to this
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problem or his basically his way to mobilize sexual passion as a
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form of political control. The situation for him was he was
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in Vienna. Vienna had a large Jewish
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population, but Austria had a large Catholic population.
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And so the battle was, how do you destroy the Catholic Church
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in Vienna if you're a Jew? And he says, if Reich would say,
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well, look, we used to give lectures on communism.
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Nobody showed up, nobody's interested.
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But it's anytime I gave a lecture on sex, lots of people
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would show up. And So what he said specifically
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about seminarians was if you don't argue about the existence
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of God with a seminarian, you're going to get nowhere.
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He'll win, you'll lose. It's not what to do.
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Don't argue at all with a seminarian.
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Get him involved in sexual deviants.
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And if you do that, the idea of God will evaporate from his mind
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completely and you will have won.
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That's the that's the program. That has been the program ever
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since. And So what you have here is a
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more and more sophisticated implementation of of the program
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that I've just described. And so over the course of the
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20th century in America, you had the Jews constantly promoting
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pornography, constantly pushing the boundaries and ending up in
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court. And then they battle it to the
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Supreme Court. And they had a series of
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basically decisions that eroded the America's repugnance or the
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legal restrictions on pornography until finally they
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broke it down. And the thing that broke down
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broke it down was the Internet, the Communications Decency Act.
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Internet is the greatest vehicle for pornography in the history
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of the universe. And you have an entire
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generation now addicted to pornography because they all
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have cell phones. This is part of the problem.
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So I come into this situation. The book comes out 2003 and then
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something happens and it's the Israelis invade Ramallah and at
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that point they do something unusual.
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They take over the TV stations and they part start broadcasting
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pornography over the TV stations.
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Now this is a classic example of what I'm talking about and it's
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not in the 1st edition because it came out after the first
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edition appeared. So I would go around the world
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joke that gave that speech in Iran.
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I gave that speech in Switzerland.
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I gave a speech in Washington. In more than one instance,
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Palestinians would come up to me and say, yeah, I was there.
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You're right. This is the, the Jews were so
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shocked that I did this that they, they tried to ban the
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video, ban the information, discredit the information.
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But now everyone knows it. It's become a a fixture on the
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Internet. So that's that's pretty much the
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story. That's the story.
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And what did the book does is deal with the entire history
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from let's say what I just said, the marquee decide all the way
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up to using porn on the Internet.
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Oh, it's really disturbing. I can definitely see the how the
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social mores regarding purity have degraded substantially in a
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very short amount of time. As you said, probably most
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people are addicted to pornography and it's very
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difficult to to help you break out of that.
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So can you tell a little bit more about the repercussions in
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terms of political control, especially in our present time
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that because that is a little less obvious to me that that's
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cause and effect relationship? Yeah, Well, let's let's be more
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more specific. What what?
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What are we we talking about here?
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We're talking about, let's let's back up a little bit and, and
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add this into the to the whole thing.
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I just watched the biopic of Bob Dylan, a complete unknown.
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It just got released. The this is about the, you know,
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Bob Dylan, the folk singer kind of the story of his life after
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he arrives in New York in 1961. It's a, it's a kind of
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dishonest, maybe not dishonest, but it doesn't get to the heart
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of the matter, which is what what really happened, what was
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really happening in the 1960s? You had the Vietnam War.
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I mean, I was, I was a young man during the 1960s facing being
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drafted and going to Vietnam in a war I did not believe in and
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my generation in general did not believe in it.
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The anti war movement was a problem for the people who were
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running the country. And so how do you deal with the
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problem? What's the answer to that
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question? Sex, drugs and rock'n'roll.
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And So what we know is that the government was involved with the
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CIA was and had a program called MK Ultra, which was basically
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the promotion of LSD as a drug that was supposed at the time.
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They're talking about expanding your consciousness and so on and
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so forth. The Grateful Dead band that was
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run by Jerry Garcia was created to distribute LSD.
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There was a guy by the name of Alsi who was a chemist who made
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it, and people went to Grateful Dead concerts to buy LSD, and
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that was the experience you had. LSD deranges you.
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Sometimes it's so bad you become permanently psychotic.
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It's a really dangerous drug and nobody knows how it's going to
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be, how it's going to affect you.
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And then that says it's not a good drug.
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It's not really because what what is?
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Who is the man who wrote the book?
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From the English perspective, it's Aldous Huxley, and the book
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is Brave New World and the drug is called Soma in Brave New
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World. Have you read Brave New?
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World. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, OK. Well, you know what I'm talking.
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About, yeah, I think. I wonder.
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What you're going to say is the analogy to soma They in my in my
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observation, it's entertainment and pornography probably and
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marijuana. Yeah, marijuana.
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That's why I was going to say, first of all, he does mention
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pornography, that he calls it the feelies.
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That's watching pornography. That's.
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Not a big that's. Not a big part of that book, but
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Soma is very definitely a big part of that book.
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And so the question is, what was Soma?
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And I think you got right to the heart of the matter.
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It's marijuana. I mean, they tried, OK.
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The CIA is involved in basically breaking the anti war movement
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by sex, drugs and rock'n'roll. I don't need to explain sex.
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Drugs was what's soma and is it LSD?
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No, I don't think LSD is the good one.
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Because you want to be docile but happy.
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That's what the Huxley said. And marijuana makes you docile
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but happy. And that's precisely what the
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movie should have talked about because Bob Dylan, if you can
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Google it, Bob Dylan introduced The Beatles to marijuana.
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Bob Dylan changed mood, changed folk music when I was a
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teenager. He changed it in 1965 and he
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brought out an album called Bringing It All Back Home and
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the main song on that was Mr. Tambourine Man and Mr.
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Tambourine Man's about drugs, Take me disappearing down the
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smoke rings of my mind. That's the Foggy ruins of time
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and so on and so forth. This was a completely different
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type of song than what made him famous, which is how many rows
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must a man walk down? It's like the civil rights
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anthem. You know, how many years must
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the cannonballs fly before therefore ever been?
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That's the anti war movement. That's the anthem of the anti
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war movement. And he, he switched and now it's
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completely introverted. And this is what marijuana does.
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Here's what pornography does to you.
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And this is what the government wanted to do to my generation.
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We were Guinea pigs and, and we didn't know.
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We didn't know what I, I guarantee you is a 17 year old
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in 1965. I did not know what was
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happening, but I knew that Mister Tambourine Man was a
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different type of song. And I was intrigued by the
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lyrics. And then the birds covered the
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song and then they created this thing called folk rock.
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So the real and then, but the real question is, you know, the
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movie talks about when they played electric instruments,
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amplified instruments, the Duport Folk Festival.
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That's, that's not the issue. The real issue is when the Bob
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Dylan met with The Beatles and gave them marijuana.
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This was 19641964 is the year he wrote Mr. Tambourine Man.
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This is what needs to be explored.
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Was he working with the government?
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Was he this is, it's not in the movie.
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It's something that we we can do research on, but it's this is
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the intriguing question that did not get asked during the the
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movie that I just saw. So in our present contemporary
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times, what do you I mean, to my mind, the program is very
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prevalent. What, what are the How is that
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manifested in political control in the times that we're living
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in right now? OK, let's go to the other Jewish
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sacrament abortion. Who promoted abortion was the
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Jews. It was a Jewish operation.
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The WASP elite, the Protestants, wanted birth control.
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Even Margaret Sanger would not say abortion.
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Margaret Sanger would say if you let us have birth control,
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you'll put an end to abortion. That's not true, but that's what
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she said. OK, So what happens when you
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have an abortion? Let me contextualize that by
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saying that the same time, 17 years old and listening to Mr.
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Tambourine Man, I'm in a private prep Heights Catholic High
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School outside of Philadelphia suburbs in Philadelphia.
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And there are all of these Catholic girls schools around me
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run by orders of nuns. And the nuns are now infected
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with the civil rights movement, which is leading to feminism.
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And nuns are starting to get infected with feminism and
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they're starting to preach this to the girls.
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And the girls are starting to act out.
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I know this, you know, I watched it happen.
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Between 65 and 67, the Catholic girls started acting out.
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And when you act out, chances are you're going to get
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pregnant. And when you get pregnant, what
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do you do? You're you're 17 years old,
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you're not married. You want to have a career.
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You have to have an education. You got to go to college.
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So guess what? The answer to all your problems
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is abortion. And between 67 and 7373, it
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finally becomes a national opportunity for women.
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And you can have an abortion. And I'm saying when you have an
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abortion, you know, you're now faced with an existential
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decision. Do I go to confession and ask
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for forgiveness? And even if you do do that, you
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still have to deal with the fact that you don't have a child.
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Now. You know, the confession is not
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going to bring your child back. Or how about the political
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mobilization of your guilt? That's called feminism, and
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that's the beginning. That's the story of the 70's,
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the Equal Rights Amendment. What you had was a Jewish
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mobilization. And I'm saying the government
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was involved in the Jewish mobilization of guilt about
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abortion. And what you said is these
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Catholic women then become feminist, and feminist is
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another word for being a Jew because abortion is a
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fundamental Jewish value. And So what happens when you
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become a feminist? You think like a Jew, you act
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like a Jew, and more importantly, you vote like a
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Jew. And what does that mean?
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You vote for the pro abortion candidate.
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You see the connection out between politics and sexuality
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and the the casting example is Pennsylvania.
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So all of those girls now with their guilt, now, they all
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became feminist lawyers and got abortions to save their career.
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And they are apostles for the Jewish sacrament of abortion.
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And so they elected Josh Shapiro, a Jew.
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There's not there are no Jews in Pennsylvania to get anybody
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elected to anything. But Josh Shapiro got elected
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because all of those Catholic women who were now had become
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feminists. One is something that would calm
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the guilt. That's what the point of
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feminism is. It's a pillar of the Democratic
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Party, probably the most in more important pillar of the
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Democratic Party. They will never give it up.
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And because they know that they can count on these votes.
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How is feminism? What was the word that he used?
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Jewish. No, no, there's, there's,
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there's something else. Sorry, my mind just went blank.
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Oh man, I'm not just going to blame.
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I have this effect on people. Yeah, Yeah, I can.
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I can believe that. OK, well, what?
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Well, how about this? What?
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What do you mean by abortion is a sacrament of the Jewish
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people? Did you For After Roe versus
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Wade got overturned, 400 Jewish organizations announced that
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abortion is a fundamental Jewish value.
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Now, this had never happened before when when Bernard Nason
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was promoting abortion in the 70s, he was always described as
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a doctor, gynecologist, never as a Jew.
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And then he wrote a memoir and he said, basically, if everybody
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knew that was a bunch of crazy Jews from Greenwich Village, it
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never would have passed. Well, now they're out in the
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open. And now there's a case going
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through the court system of Indiana, which the Jews are now
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demanding an exemption from the abortion law because it's part
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of their religion. That's what they're saying.
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It's part of their religion. And if you are restricting
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abortion, you're discriminated against the Jewish religion.
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Now I'm saying abortion is part of your religion.
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You don't worship Yahweh, you worship Moloch.
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But that's that's what I'm talking about here.
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That's why I call it the Jewish sacrament.
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Obvious. That's analogy.
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Jews don't believe in sacraments.
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Do you know what their argument is for why it's part of their
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religion? Because they said because I said
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so, because I'm a Jew, I have Jewish privilege and I said so
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and you're going to tell me I don't know about my religion.
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This is basically what they're saying.
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I confronted Ben Shapiro at a right to life bank when he's
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right to life. I said, you know, shouldn't you
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be preaching to the Jews rather than the Catholics?
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We're all pro-life here. I said because abortion is a
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fundamental Jewish John. No, that's not true.
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Oh, yes, it is. No, I know a rabbi.
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I don't care whether you know a rabbi 400.
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It's not a question of it's like, Ben, are you the Jewish
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Pope? There's no Jewish Pope.
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It's a numbers game. If every major Jewish
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organization says abortion is a fundamental value, it is.
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Period. OK, I remember my question.
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So what? What does feminism have to do
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with absolving 1 of guilt? There's a political
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mobilization. It's exactly what Wilhelm Reich
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said about a mass demonstration, a mass situation.
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So you get these women who by themselves, you're sitting at
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home. Gosh, I don't have a date
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tonight. I my rent's overdue.
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I got credit card debt. I'm really unhappy.
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What do you do? Maybe I did something wrong.
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Maybe I should repent. No, what you do is you drag that
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woman out into the street and you have a March.
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Mass psychology You have a March, a women's March 1,000,000
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women going to the Supreme Court to and you're energized.
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Boy, look at all these other people.
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Misery loves company. That's what I mean.
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So what do you propose as a solution to this?
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To whom? To the Jews.
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The Jews should convert to Catholicism.
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And that will end. That will be the beginning of
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the end of the Jewish problem. Until that time, we have to
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restrict go, how are we going to go back to restricting things
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politically when now every single person has a cell phone
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where you have access to pornography?
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It's possible. It's possible they could have
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done it. This is part of what has to
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happen with the reform of the Internet.
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It has to be made conformable to United States law rather than to
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the ADL and Jewish organizations.
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So that means if you are a promoter of pornography, you
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will go to jail. So Rabbi Solomon Friedman,
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you're going to jail. This is what the Catholics did
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when they had political power. And I'm talking specifically
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about Robert F Kennedy, who went after a Jew by the name of Ralph
26:55
Ginsburg for publishing a magazine called Eros, which was
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a kind of softcore porn magazine.
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And he moved the trial from New York to Philadelphia because he
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knew Philadelphia was more Catholic than New York, and he
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got a conviction. And the Jews never forgave
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Robert F Kennedy. And it's probably one of the
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factors that contributed to his brother's death and his death.
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They never forgave him for that. Who do you think killed him?
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Who do I think killed him? I think it was the Israeli
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combination of the Israelis and the and the CIA.
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They both had different motives. They killed John F Kennedy, and
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then once Rob became clear that Robert was going to win the the
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election, the nomination in 1964, they killed him because he
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was going to go take over the Justice Department, find out who
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killed his brother, and then punish him.
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How much hope do you have in our current political moments with
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the inauguration today? Well, our hope is in the Lord,
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so we have to say that and you don't spot supposed to put your
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trust in Princess. But I think that we have reason
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to be optimistic about the political process because Donald
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Trump just had a showdown with Bibi Netanyahu.
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He said the the the big Jew wit Goff from New York to Qatar.
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And he calls up Netanyahu's office and says, I'm, I'm going
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to be at your office at 10:30. You got to be there.
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I'll see you tomorrow. And the secretary says, well,
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tomorrow's the Sabbath. And then Witkoff says, I don't
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give a shit about your Sabbath, you be there.
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And then he read BB's riot act and BB had to accept the
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ceasefire. This is this is I've said this
28:53
before, this Trump has to do this.
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This was the failure of the Biden administration because
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Biden simply was not in control. And certainly you can't expect
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somebody, a Jew like Anthony Blinken, to sell a big Jew like
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Netanyahu. You got to do it.
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It's my way or the highway. You can't do that.
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But Trump has that personality and he's got to say, look, it
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doesn't have anything to do with being Jewish or not.
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I'm the boss. You do what I say.
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And I said it was analogous to the battle between Norman
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Finkelstein and Alan Dershowitz. I met Finkelstein personally
29:28
when he was in at the Paul in Chicago.
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And he said it's a battle over who's the toughest Jew in
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Borough Park, which is the Jewish neighborhood in Brooklyn.
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That's what it is, who's the toughest Jew, Donald Trump or
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Bibi Netanyahu. And I think that Netanyahu,
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Trump has the cards and he's willing to play them.
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And that was not the case with the Biden administration.
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And that's reason to be optimistic.
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What do you think Trump or Wyckoff said that led to the
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ceasefire? You do Look, do you?
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Do you want another bullet? Do you want more gasoline for
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your jet fighters? That you do what I say because
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I'm going to cut off all military aid to Israel, period.
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You get that, baby. You understand that that's the
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situation, that's all he had to do.
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They the Israel can couldn't do it for another 24 hours without
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constant supplies from the United States.
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And so I think, I assume if he didn't state it explicitly,
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that's certainly what he let the whoever, Netanyahu, what do you
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let him know? Yeah, sounds pretty simple.
30:41
It is simple. It's a question of will and it's
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also a question of reason. Don't send us any more Jewish
30:50
secretaries of state. Let's not appoint Jews to
30:54
anything anymore. This is the conclusion we have
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to draw from the Biden administration.
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The Biden menu 457 Jews and a non compass mentis Catholic
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president. It's a disaster.
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Wars all over the place. Everything is a disaster.
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Don't do it. We you've got to learn from your
31:15
experience. I don't care what you are.
31:17
I don't care whether you love Israel or not or what, whatever
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you think this was a disaster. And if you're in contact with
31:24
reality, you're going to have to act according to what you know
31:27
now. So if the problem was originally
31:33
a moral 1 the the arousal of the passions, it seems like the
31:38
solution may also be a moral 1. Any practical takeaways for how
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we can address this? Well, OK, let's deal with the
31:47
fundamental problem right now, which is the cell phone.
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This is an instrument of control.
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How do you deal with the cell phone?
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How do you get to make use of this communication device in a
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way that it does not control your life?
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How do you do that? That's serious.
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I'm talking. I mean, in a sense it goes
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beyond pornography. Obvious pornography is part of
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this thing, but it goes. I think there's a simple
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addictive character to scrolling.
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For example, I'm, I'm, I'm just giving you, I, I don't have a
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cell phone. I don't want a cell phone.
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I have a computer. A computer is bad enough.
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You know, I have to work in a, a, a, a, an environment of
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constant distraction, which is what scrolling does.
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It's constant distraction means you'll never be able to
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formulate a coherent thought. Well, I'm in the business of
32:37
formulating coherent thoughts. I have to write books.
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I have to be able to digest large amounts of information and
32:44
come up with some type of unifying thesis that will tie it
32:47
all together. You can't do that when you're
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constantly scrolling and I don't care what you're scrolling,
32:52
whether it's crocodiles eating zebras or whatever it is.
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You can't. It's constant distraction.
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You have to distance yourself from that.
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How are we going to do that? How are we going to do that?
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How are you going to take that cell phone out of the hands of
33:06
the addict? It's like you got an entire
33:08
generation that's addicted. It's like taking heroin away
33:12
from the addicts as they're ready to inject their veins when
33:15
you go walk around. No, no, don't do that.
33:17
What are you going to do? You have to deal with it on a
33:21
family level, which is basically your children.
33:25
How are you going to When is your child going to get a cell
33:28
phone? Is your child going to get a
33:31
cell phone Can your child survive in school or the
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university without a cell phone? You're constantly being
33:38
pressured to have what can can you Can I get on an airplane
33:43
without a cell phone? Maybe is a big The part of the
33:47
thing was, can you get it? Can I get into a concert without
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a cell phone that certifies that I've been vaccinated.
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You see how extensive this system of political control is
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based on this intrusive technology.
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Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I could not agree more.
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It's it's causing digital destruction through the entire
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world. It's one of the topics I feel
34:13
most strongly about. I recently interviewed Melanie
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Hempie from Screen Strong on this and think she has the best
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perspective. Don't get your childhood
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smartphone ever. Never your childhood smartphone.
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Who said this? Her name is Melanie Hempie,
34:26
founder of Screen Strong. Her son was addicted to video
34:30
games and dropped out of college.
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Then she realized, yeah, it's a much bigger problem.
34:35
So we we have, let's deal with it from the point of view of the
34:39
generation. You got a generation of people
34:41
who are now addicted to pornography, video games and
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chat rooms and racial ideology. This is the fundamental problem
34:50
that I'm dealing with right now. I'm writing an article on it
34:53
right now. How do you reach these people?
34:55
And I'm saying, first of all, let's deal with the race thing.
34:58
And I'm trying to say, look, racial ideology and Catholicism
35:02
are completely incompatible. They're not compatible.
35:05
So you have to make a decision, what's your identity?
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How are you going to form your identity?
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This is the type of dialogue I'm trying to have with these
35:12
people. And you would not believe the
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rage that you get back from this because it's a fragile identity.
35:19
And it's you're touching a nerve when you talk to this generation
35:23
about this and they start screaming at you.
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I'm talking about Twitter. You know when you get responses
35:27
on Twitter screaming at you, You know, Boomer die Boomer, That's
35:37
one of the milder responses you get.
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Wow, Wow, man. Yeah, we're in a state, aren't
35:47
we? Yeah, but our hope is in the
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Lord and I think we have reason to be optimistic.
35:55
So one of the you know, it takes a long time, but you have to be
35:59
able to discuss the real issues. And over the course, since I
36:03
wrote the Jewish Revolutionary Spirit, I think I've inaugurated
36:06
a discussion of the Jewish problem, which is and and now so
36:11
that's that's acceptable. How you can talk about it on
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Twitter. That was a big step forward.
36:16
OK. And now you immediately got
36:17
another problem where you've got all these people who think that
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in order to be, if you're anti Jewish, you have to be a
36:23
supporter of Adolf Hitler. No, no, that's not that's not
36:27
the case. And so I'm now and now you're
36:29
seeing the rise of racist ideology flowing out of the
36:35
discussion of the Jewish question.
36:37
That's exactly what I tried not to do here.
36:39
I had to extricate the Jewish question from a racial matrix
36:43
and re situated in the theological matrix where which
36:47
is the only place that makes sense.
36:49
So you're constantly dealing with people whose job is
36:54
basically to turn you into a slave.
36:56
Let's be honest here, you know, federal agencies, the FBI, the
37:01
CIA, their job is to keep you happy and docile.
37:06
And if it's marijuana, if it's pornography, then they are going
37:09
to defend it. And if you stand up against it,
37:12
then they're going to they're going to try and destroy you one
37:14
way or the other. What have they done to try to
37:17
destroy you? Well, first was the
37:19
deplatforming. Deplatforming was a big deal in
37:25
2019. The main perpetrator of
37:28
deplatforming was the ADL, the Jewish.
37:30
So it's it was a Jewish operation and the main thing
37:33
that stopped it or hindered it was Elon Musk taking over
37:39
Twitter and basically opening up to the platform.
37:42
It goes all you know, what did dad they do?
37:45
What do they have to? If you're at a level in society
37:48
like John F Kennedy or Robert Kennedy, they will kill you did
37:52
did you know, of course the Israelis specialize in
37:55
assassinating people. Alan Dershowitz, one of the
37:58
things he got into argument with the with the Norman Finkelstein
38:02
was he was a pre proponent of targeted assassinations.
38:06
And so this is one of the issues we have to deal with.
38:09
If you do something they don't like, they have a right to kill
38:12
you. And OK, maybe they don't want to
38:14
do that. That could be kind of dangerous.
38:16
What we'll do is we'll do, we'll destroy your character.
38:19
We have the ADL, which is basically a defamation society.
38:22
Elon Musk said that, OK, so we'll destroy your good name.
38:28
And there are plenty of people who will earn a living by doing
38:31
that. Is that what journalism is?
38:35
Pretty much nobody takes them seriously, the mainstream media
38:40
seriously. But they will hire people whose
38:42
job is basically to destroy your name, writing an article about
38:45
you that will destroy your good name you.
38:49
Have a pretty thick skin to be able to stand up to that.
38:52
Yeah, you have to. You have to have it.
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But there's thick skin is one thing, but you need spirit.
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You need to understand this with the eyes of faith.
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And I keep telling people that if you want to succeed in life,
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you have to become a Catholic because you're not going to
39:06
otherwise have the grace necessary for a successful life
39:10
because a successful life is very difficult.
39:13
It's very difficult, especially given the culture that we live
39:17
in. Some people look arrestees.
39:19
Brownson, the great Catholic convert in the 19th century,
39:23
said he didn't feel that any anybody in a Protestant country
39:28
was married validly. He said it has to be a
39:31
Sacramento marriage if you want to succeed.
39:34
Marriage to the end. So there you have a big debate
39:37
over nature and grace. You know, we all grace perfects
39:41
nature. But what's the boundary line
39:43
between nature and grace? And how can you much can you
39:45
achieve just by nature? That was a big issue in American
39:48
history. Henry David Thoreau went out to
39:51
Walden Pond and decided I'm just going to learn from nature.
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Well, you can learn from nature. You can learn a lot from nature.
39:59
But then he said. A morning and spring is like
40:02
forgiveness of sins. Well, no, no, you took it too
40:04
far. That's too far.
40:07
I, I, I love a morning and spring, but it's not going to
40:09
forgive my sins. That's totally supernatural.
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And there's only one place you could do that, and that's the
40:15
Catholic Church. And the whole book that I just
40:17
finished is about what happens when you live in a culture that
40:20
has no sacra sacraments, where the churches have no sacraments.
40:24
Well, you become crazy. That's what happens.
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What book is that? The book I've just written is
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called Walking with a Bible and a Gun, The Rise, Fall, and
40:36
Return of American Identity. I'd be happy to come on as soon
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as I get copies from the printer.
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We're ready to send it to the printer As soon as I get copies,
40:45
I'll be happy to come on and discuss with you.
40:47
I'll send you a review copy if you'd like.
40:49
Sure, appreciate that. Wow, so a lot to think about you
40:53
being me speechless and in fact I don't know what else to say,
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but I thank you for your time here.
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You're welcome, always a pleasure to talk to you.
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