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Experts discuss the Jaguars identity after Week 7 | Jags Drive Time: Monday, October 24 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive John with Ashlyn Sullomsells, John O'shans
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Speaker 1: Brian Sexy Jacks Drive Time, and it starts right now.
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Speaker 1: They all stinged Um, they all stingy because I know
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Speaker 1: we're close, and I'm kind of stick and tired of
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Speaker 1: getting up here and saying that we're close. Son's gotta
0:23
Speaker 1: someone's gotta give. You know, we gotta we gotta keep working,
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Speaker 1: and you know we have all the tools and the
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Speaker 1: people in this locker room to be the third time
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Speaker 1: I ever want to be. Everyone is sick and tired
0:32
Speaker 1: of this losing streak. For sure, as the Jaguars extended
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Speaker 1: to four games after I lost the New York Giants.
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Speaker 1: Welcome in the Jaguars Drive Time on a Monday morning, Ashlyn,
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Speaker 1: Brian and John here with you to break it all down.
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Speaker 1: It was good at times, it was ugly at times.
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Speaker 1: But the moral of the story is close, but not
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Speaker 1: close enough. I think, as you could say, closer right
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Speaker 1: within the yard of getting the job done on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: And certainly the offense, um, I mean it's four hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty yards of offense. I mean they move the ball.
1:00
Speaker 1: They just there were some wells there on some there
1:03
Speaker 1: was a ton of dupid penalties and bad plays and
1:08
Speaker 1: moments where they just shot themselves in the foot. Yeah,
1:11
Speaker 1: and you know, after games, my job is to write
1:15
Speaker 1: stories for the website what I do, and so after
1:18
Speaker 1: games you're sort of trying to pass through what happened.
1:21
Speaker 1: You're going over storylines. And as I was writing last night,
1:24
Speaker 1: I realized it was very repetitive and trying not to
1:28
Speaker 1: be that way. You realize there's no way not to
1:32
Speaker 1: be that way. And the players after the game, I think,
1:35
Speaker 1: had that same feel of we're tired of saying this,
1:38
Speaker 1: but it really is the same story. You've had five losses,
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Speaker 1: five games that were decided in the final minute. If
1:45
Speaker 1: a play goes the other way, you probably win it.
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Speaker 1: It's it's my hot take, but um, that's what teams
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Speaker 1: that aren't winning do, unfortunately, And this is what first
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Speaker 1: year coach trying to get over the hump frustration normal
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Speaker 1: feels like. And I think that's what people are confused about.
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Speaker 1: They're better than they were the last two years. I'm
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Speaker 1: going to tell you a story about that, really, but
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Speaker 1: but it's still maddening to be this close. But I
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Speaker 1: think this is what they are, and that's hurts hurts me.
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Speaker 1: Indulge me for a moment here this morning. Um, I
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Speaker 1: was walking to my car which is way over there
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Speaker 1: after the game, and two young guys, maybe one nice
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Speaker 1: young guys, uh, viewers of the show by the way.
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Speaker 1: UM started a conversation with those two, right, started a conversation.
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Speaker 1: They said, you know, what do you think? And I said,
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Speaker 1: I was crotch you guys, I think it stinks to lose.
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Speaker 1: I'm tired of this And they said, but man, there's
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Speaker 1: so much more fun to watch, right, I mean, we
2:45
Speaker 1: forget because it's the fourth trade lost. The ball was
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Speaker 1: a yard from the end zone, and last year and
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Speaker 1: the year before there nowhere close to that, right, So
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Speaker 1: it was refreshing that they see it that they thought
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Speaker 1: losing was uncomfortable to they're tired of it. But the
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Speaker 1: whole way that we walked all the way out to
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Speaker 1: lot Z, they wanted to talk about the things that
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Speaker 1: they saw. If I pointed out something that I did
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Speaker 1: on conversation, then well, you know. They they were excited
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Speaker 1: about this football team. They were unhappy that they had lost.
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Speaker 1: But these are twenty year olds, right, they haven't known
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Speaker 1: winning right one year, maybe two if they were paying
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Speaker 1: attention early in their life. In two thousand seven, they
3:21
Speaker 1: were really interested in it. And I got in the
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Speaker 1: car with a little smile on my face and they
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Speaker 1: can all right, it's not that bad. It stinks to
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Speaker 1: have five losses, four in a row. But this is
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Speaker 1: john to the point. These are the growing pains. And
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Speaker 1: no one wants to hear about patients because they've heard
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Speaker 1: about patients for years. But this is a new coach
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Speaker 1: and you can see the development and you know where
3:41
Speaker 1: the holes are. And there are still holes on this roster. Goodness,
3:44
Speaker 1: we know that there are um close is not going
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Speaker 1: to be good enough for long. It's not. At some
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Speaker 1: point you've got to start winning right. But no, that
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Speaker 1: is encouraging because at times, I think we all agree,
3:55
Speaker 1: we say okay, just wait, just wait, they're getting there,
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Speaker 1: and fans say, well, no, I wanted to happen now
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Speaker 1: so here that And they're young enough that I thought
4:02
Speaker 1: they were just gonna they were gonna nail me right,
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Speaker 1: they were gonna come in on this and this and
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Speaker 1: this and this. W Yeah, I mean, because that's that
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Speaker 1: is the younger sports fan. I mean, they want that
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Speaker 1: they want it now right, Um, But they weren't. They
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Speaker 1: were very well versed in this team and they were
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Speaker 1: upbeat about where it was going. And they did not
4:20
Speaker 1: harangue me about it all. So it was fun fellas
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Speaker 1: I appreciate at the time. One thing, and I know
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Speaker 1: we got to move on. If you're looking for something
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Speaker 1: that makes you think this, I hate the word regime,
4:31
Speaker 1: but you know that Doug and this offering in this
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Speaker 1: group know what they're doing and that they can function
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Speaker 1: in this NFL. Right now, even though you're two and five.
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Speaker 1: Every game, I guess that you had six drives of
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Speaker 1: over sixty yards. They can move the ball, they can
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Speaker 1: get in position, they can function in the NFL. They
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Speaker 1: just aren't closing. So I think that's something if if
4:55
Speaker 1: you're trying to find something to hang onto in this
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Speaker 1: windy night, um, well that's that. I think that's what
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Speaker 1: it is, because they can move and there are not
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Speaker 1: these you guys, Marry the last couple of years, these
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Speaker 1: long droughts were three and out, three and out, three
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Speaker 1: and out. Could didn't even look like an NFL team. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's the thing that I think will be the base
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Speaker 1: going forward in which you can build around for sure.
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Speaker 1: All Right, let's get into big things. Big thing one
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Speaker 1: is close again. The Jaguars are oh in five and
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Speaker 1: one score games this season. Being close to winning we
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Speaker 1: all know does not cut it. Our message was, let's
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Speaker 1: let's find a way to win this one, and like
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Speaker 1: I said, just just came up a little short. And um,
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Speaker 1: I think when you can go and and and make
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Speaker 1: those plays down the stretch and go win one of
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Speaker 1: these games and kind of turn that momentum around, obviously
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Speaker 1: that that helps. So that's you know, that's what we're
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Speaker 1: looking to do moving forward. Obviously we'd rather the game
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Speaker 1: not come down to the very end and you know,
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Speaker 1: put it away early. But that's not going to be
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Speaker 1: the case most weeks in the NFL. You know, we
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Speaker 1: had two early in the season and where we just
5:56
Speaker 1: jumped on those teams and got rolling and played really good,
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Speaker 1: complimentary ball and um really just finished the game and
6:02
Speaker 1: that was great. But most games are going to come
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Speaker 1: down to the end, and uh, we just gotta find
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Speaker 1: ways to make those and we're getting closer, and you
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Speaker 1: saw today get closer and closer, and um, but that
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Speaker 1: that I'm cut it. So we gotta make them big
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Speaker 1: thing too is seeing double the Jaguars allowed to hundred
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Speaker 1: plus yard rushers yesterday and the loss of the Giant
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Speaker 1: Sequon Barkley and quarterback Daniel Jones. Get this, the last
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Speaker 1: time many Giants quarterback ran for a hundred yards it
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Speaker 1: was nineteen forty six. While there is a lot to
6:29
Speaker 1: fix on the Jaguars right now, they can't turn away
6:31
Speaker 1: from each other at the moment. I still want them
6:34
Speaker 1: play hard and aggressive and and all of that. I
6:36
Speaker 1: don't want to take any of that away from it all.
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Speaker 1: But you know, you get in the heat of the
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Speaker 1: battle sometimes, man, you just you just gotta be um,
6:44
Speaker 1: you know, cooler heads and and um just just understand
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Speaker 1: your role and leading into that big thing. Three is
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Speaker 1: out mistakes and penalties yet again, so many of them
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Speaker 1: that you just put your head in your hands and said,
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Speaker 1: why is this happening again? Count us mistakes by a
7:01
Speaker 1: loua Con says. What they can change this week is
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Speaker 1: how they practice better, prepare like everyp like like a
7:07
Speaker 1: game rep. We already know that, but just putting that
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Speaker 1: pressure on us to do it is being a professional.
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Speaker 1: That's all it is, you know, and what what it
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Speaker 1: takes to win it is nt young teams or what
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Speaker 1: it takes to win. And that's as making every game,
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Speaker 1: every practice of like a game rep and then you
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Speaker 1: have it. Those are big things. I go back up
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Speaker 1: to big thing one and Bucky Brooks and I were
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Speaker 1: talking about this after the game, is you saw the
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Speaker 1: difference in the Giants and the Jaguars, and it was
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Speaker 1: very clear they didn't The Giants didn't seem like the
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Speaker 1: much away better tea. But the Giants when they had
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Speaker 1: the ball in their hands, they now have the confidence
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Speaker 1: that they've won the past five games like this. They
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Speaker 1: have done it. They believe in themselves to do it.
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Speaker 1: And Buck said, yeah, you know it's going to take
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars to do it once. But now everyone is
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Speaker 1: asking when is that once going to happen? You know,
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Speaker 1: maybe this week. Yeah, that's the frustrating part. Here's the
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Speaker 1: good A big thing too, um because Daniel Jones was
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Speaker 1: the difference in the ball game. The Jaguars couldn't handle
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Speaker 1: that belly play that simple, you know that pake hand
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Speaker 1: off to say Kwan Barkley and then he kept it
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Speaker 1: himself most of the time. And the numbers speak for themselves.
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Speaker 1: He was the difference. They gave up a hundred and
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Speaker 1: thirty rushing yards in the fourth quarter, and most of
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Speaker 1: them were to him, not Barkley. I know Barkley got
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Speaker 1: started and had the eighteen yard run. They did a
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Speaker 1: really nice job on Barkley. If you look at Barkley's numbers,
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Speaker 1: that's kind of what you expect, right. He didn't get
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Speaker 1: into the end zone and he didn't break a fifty
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Speaker 1: yard play man. That's a great job on Barkley, a
8:19
Speaker 1: terrible job on Daniel Jones. And there was one play
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Speaker 1: in particular. I was just telling John on the drive
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Speaker 1: where they went to go to twenty three right to
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Speaker 1: make it a six point game, so the Jaguars had
8:29
Speaker 1: to have the field goal, and it was a naked
8:31
Speaker 1: boo bootleg right out to the left. We've seen it
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Speaker 1: the whole quarter and at that moment, Trayvon Walker was
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Speaker 1: the the outside linebacker. It's his responsibility. He went running
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Speaker 1: the other direction for no reason whatsoever. He went running
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Speaker 1: away from his area of and the most simple football
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Speaker 1: fan can know, well, if you're the only guy out there,
8:51
Speaker 1: that's that's your terrant to read to cover it. Just
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Speaker 1: it boggled the mind that Daniel Jones. We never would
8:56
Speaker 1: have said, well if you if you keep Daniel Jones
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Speaker 1: from running on you, you win. But if they had
9:01
Speaker 1: kept in Neiel Jones from running on them, they would
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Speaker 1: have won. Well, I think the Giants have something that
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Speaker 1: they believe in, can rely on and scares teams that
9:11
Speaker 1: and the Janguars don't have that yet. I mean they
9:14
Speaker 1: have Sa Kwan Barkley and clearly Daniel Jones went off
9:17
Speaker 1: because the Jaguars were incredibly concerned about Sa Kwon Barky
9:20
Speaker 1: because they should be. So the Giants have that thing
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Speaker 1: that go to elite player that they know what he is.
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Speaker 1: Other teams have to stop and then you play off that.
9:30
Speaker 1: I don't know the Jaguars have that, uh yet we
9:34
Speaker 1: do yet they're trying to find it. Um yes, well,
9:39
Speaker 1: well but you clearly what Brian Dabble saw when watching
9:42
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia game was is a mobile quarterback who is
9:46
Speaker 1: good at executing the play fake. We'll get these guys
9:49
Speaker 1: running in different directions. And he did that yesterday. And
9:51
Speaker 1: there were time and again, especially with the with the
9:53
Speaker 1: rookie linebackers, where they were way out of position. They
9:56
Speaker 1: were so focused on twenty six that they let the
9:59
Speaker 1: other guy get to the outside, and that was the
10:01
Speaker 1: crucial difference in the bowl game. And you'll see plenty
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Speaker 1: of other mobile quarterbacks the rest of the season. So
10:06
Speaker 1: it's something that is going to continue to happen. We
10:08
Speaker 1: say what you put on film absolutely, Lamar Jackson for example,
10:11
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's gonna be an issue, all right,
10:13
Speaker 1: big thing. Three ouch mistakes and penalties and the penalties
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Speaker 1: that I feel like every Monday we talk about the
10:19
Speaker 1: egregious ones. We call them the roughing the pastors, and
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Speaker 1: and the ones where they just can't happen. And I
10:24
Speaker 1: feel like Coach Peterson every post game says it just
10:27
Speaker 1: can't happen. Vans are frustrated because it does keep happening. Yeah,
10:31
Speaker 1: it does. And honestly, yesterday these mistakes were talking about
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Speaker 1: the penalties, I get that they were frustrating on on
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Speaker 1: paper in the scoreboard. They didn't actually hurt the way
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Speaker 1: you thought they did in terms of the pure penalties
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Speaker 1: on the on the roughing the pastor on the penalties
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Speaker 1: on the drive for the touchdown that gave them the lead. Uh,
10:58
Speaker 1: there was an interference in the end zone on on
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Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell and then two, Uh yeah, those were they
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Speaker 1: were clunky, but I kind of got Philly, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: score there anyway. I mean, so, I thought it was
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Speaker 1: more we're talking about mistakes and they've got to be avoided.
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Speaker 1: I thought the game came down more to not being
11:15
Speaker 1: able to stop that handoff fake and huge storyline for
11:21
Speaker 1: this season overall. I thought. I thought about last night
11:24
Speaker 1: as I was, You're gonna put my head on the pillow.
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Speaker 1: They're five, they're two and five. Red zone turnover yesterday,
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Speaker 1: no touchdown, red zone turnover against Philly, no points against
11:38
Speaker 1: Washington when you're four point, had to turn over here
11:43
Speaker 1: against the Texas, right, and Trevor's interception, red zone turnovers,
11:50
Speaker 1: which is like the first thing a coach will talk
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Speaker 1: about when he puts the power point up on day one.
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Speaker 1: All the other stuff aside those three or four plays.
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Speaker 1: Those at the moment, okay, I'm just going here's the
12:02
Speaker 1: untimely one, just as an example of it. Though, five
12:04
Speaker 1: thirty five left to play in the game, you're down seventeen,
12:08
Speaker 1: You get the ball at the twenty five yard line,
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Speaker 1: and for no reason whatsoever field position, Taylor jumps off sides.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't even loud and he goes and now it's
12:18
Speaker 1: first in fifteen you said, well, it's only five yards
12:21
Speaker 1: the over kid, that was a big That was a
12:23
Speaker 1: big moment, big moment where you're like, oh, it's just
12:27
Speaker 1: shooting yourself in the foot, trying to give him a
12:30
Speaker 1: pass on the penalties, but that there were big ones
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Speaker 1: in moments, and maybe not the ones you're talking about.
12:35
Speaker 1: Foyer's penalty um didn't end up costing them points, costing
12:39
Speaker 1: field position, but it didn't cost him points. But that
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Speaker 1: one with you Wan that set him into a tail spin,
12:45
Speaker 1: and that young team is like, oh boy, here we
12:46
Speaker 1: go again. You found it speaking to how close they
12:49
Speaker 1: are when you think three red zone turnovers in the
12:54
Speaker 1: course of this season and you're probably five and two.
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Speaker 1: That's the hinge point. At the same time, everybody's gonna
13:01
Speaker 1: stay in there, right, That's what bad teams do, So
13:03
Speaker 1: you gotta get past it. Where we are certainly is
13:06
Speaker 1: that is big things on Jaguars Drive to when we
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Speaker 1: come back. Some highlights from yesterday's lost the Giants coming up.
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Speaker 1: If your car's out of manufacturer's warranty, don't get stuck
13:23
Speaker 1: with expensive mechanical and computer screen repairs called car shield.
13:27
Speaker 1: Now we're back Jaguars Drive time on a Monday morning,
13:33
Speaker 1: reliving yesterday's game against the New York Giants. Let's go
13:36
Speaker 1: first quarter, first Jags offensive drive, starting off Sean he's
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Speaker 1: producted well the war and then shut up a little
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Speaker 1: screen and there you go, which Dan Arnold tight screen
13:50
Speaker 1: chan Yard Lar it will be first. It was all
13:53
Speaker 1: for the Jacks tight end. Unofficially, r will kind of
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Speaker 1: make it a thing hard tracks to eat and Marry
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Speaker 1: goes touchdown Travis ten his first touched on in his
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Speaker 1: NFL career. It was nice to get that ball there
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Speaker 1: to hold on. Buddy words, it was okay, yeah, all right,
14:16
Speaker 1: let's go second quarter, Jags up by one. The mistakes
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Speaker 1: start to occur. B t M. What the first time about?
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Speaker 1: That's a recovery by showing them alone. Just yeah, brutal.
14:37
Speaker 1: We talked about the rights one turnovers. Yeah, I thought
14:39
Speaker 1: that was a little flute. I mean on that one.
14:42
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was actually that loose with the ball.
14:44
Speaker 1: He just kicked it out of his own I mean
14:45
Speaker 1: it was a weird. Yes, sometimes weird stuff happens in
14:48
Speaker 1: the NFL. And if you're trying to make the case
14:51
Speaker 1: that they're snake bit. That was a play where they
14:54
Speaker 1: look snake bit. I mean, I mean he could have
14:56
Speaker 1: been Negressy had two hands on it. But at some
14:59
Speaker 1: point when you get into that tight area, and Doug
15:01
Speaker 1: talked about it, you've got to have a debt. You've
15:02
Speaker 1: got to identify there's threats coming, protect the ball go down,
15:05
Speaker 1: And he said in the locker room afterwards, got to
15:07
Speaker 1: live to fight another play, right, And travisy Tan did
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Speaker 1: say that he felt great that coach Peterson went back
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Speaker 1: to him in the third quarters. Let's go to that play.
15:15
Speaker 1: He's gotten aber launch today. I haven't had a shack
15:18
Speaker 1: in this game yet. Anyway, bitch to ets. He turns
15:22
Speaker 1: the quarter, he's Travish E t N. That's funny, fine
15:29
Speaker 1: about the chance yet old frustraight in this office. He'll
15:34
Speaker 1: leap reached the ball across and Tarts has a chats touchdown.
15:39
Speaker 1: If you're wondering why he was the first round pick
15:42
Speaker 1: and wondering why he's playing that play, there, Um, a
15:47
Speaker 1: normal back gets tan yard and he looks easily turning
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Speaker 1: into forty nine. Uh, that's the Travis E. T N element. Yeah,
15:57
Speaker 1: he's special. Yeah he's got that. That burst doesn't have
16:02
Speaker 1: enough experience, I guess at the goal line to know
16:03
Speaker 1: to hold onto the ball, but they'll work with him
16:05
Speaker 1: on that. His upside is tremendous. And I know there's
16:08
Speaker 1: some noise out there about Jay Rob not playing and
16:10
Speaker 1: I love Jay Rob, but he didn't do that. But
16:12
Speaker 1: on that play, it's hard to argue that et N
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Speaker 1: shouldn't be in there right and Travis et and I
16:17
Speaker 1: thought was great post game with the media, he talked
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Speaker 1: about a young player learning, he said with that fumble,
16:22
Speaker 1: he said, I have to learn. You know, when you're
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Speaker 1: running back and you see the end zone, you almost
16:26
Speaker 1: get wide eyed that you have to go right there.
16:27
Speaker 1: And he said, next time, understanding to go down and
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Speaker 1: play it safe. And you know it's the learning, cover
16:33
Speaker 1: the ball up and drive. Yep. You know that guy
16:36
Speaker 1: has things you can't teach it to. I've noticed beyond anything,
16:42
Speaker 1: and I get the fumbles a topic today. He runs hard,
16:46
Speaker 1: even when he's getting tact with the point of attack.
16:48
Speaker 1: For a guy who is not huge for an NFL
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Speaker 1: running back, he is a tough kid in in addition
16:54
Speaker 1: to being really dynamic, so all right, let's go to
16:56
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. We now go to the fourth down. That
16:58
Speaker 1: was a topic post game. Yes today we lined up
17:01
Speaker 1: in there deep. She's rushed from fine and that may
17:07
Speaker 1: have been enough to get him forward. Although there there's
17:09
Speaker 1: no ship though, you know, I think they stopped them away.
17:15
Speaker 1: Charles keep ship. So I asked Doug Peterson in the
17:20
Speaker 1: post game locker room about the decision to go for
17:22
Speaker 1: it on fourth down there instead of kicking the field goal,
17:24
Speaker 1: giving yourself a touchdown lead, and he didn't even back
17:27
Speaker 1: away from me. Good look, we were moving the ball.
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Speaker 1: They had a hundred and thirty eight rushing yards through
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Speaker 1: three quarters. They were moving the ball on the ground,
17:34
Speaker 1: and he put it on his offensive line, who played
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Speaker 1: well yesterday to get that and they didn't get it done.
17:39
Speaker 1: That was where the momentum switched and their coaches, and
17:42
Speaker 1: I think Doug's one of them who believe if you
17:44
Speaker 1: can't pick up fourth and units where to win. So
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Speaker 1: there's a little bit of an element of that. And uh,
17:49
Speaker 1: there's some analytics there. They went into that decision as well,
17:51
Speaker 1: but we can hit that later. I just I would
17:54
Speaker 1: have probably tried to get this young team more points, right,
17:59
Speaker 1: coaxed him, but Doug knows what he's gotten. Doug's going
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Speaker 1: to coach it his way, and he didn't even hesitate
18:05
Speaker 1: to say do it again. We both definitely would have
18:09
Speaker 1: kicked because we're old school. Well, and he's old school
18:12
Speaker 1: in that sense too. He's been around a long time,
18:14
Speaker 1: he has, but he's he is a new school in
18:18
Speaker 1: terms of how he approaches things. So and he has
18:20
Speaker 1: a big picture philosophy understanding it's more than just one game.
18:23
Speaker 1: This is how I coach. It's going to stay this way. Well,
18:25
Speaker 1: the next time that they line up on fourth down,
18:28
Speaker 1: you can bet you're going to see more of a
18:29
Speaker 1: surge off the ball because Doug's not gonna let him
18:31
Speaker 1: forget it for sure. All Right. Finally, like the past
18:33
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, the Jaguars have a chance to go
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Speaker 1: down and win it in the final drive. Let's see
18:38
Speaker 1: what happens. Roll Marvin chose thirty one is a five
18:50
Speaker 1: dog roll by Chris stood Kurt, but defen that last
19:05
Speaker 1: play is just brutal pe chaos on the field. We're
19:08
Speaker 1: not knowing if kind of expired. Does he have another
19:10
Speaker 1: play in him? And Christian Kirk just just lying on
19:12
Speaker 1: the field and his offensive line picking him up. Credit
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Speaker 1: the Giants, I mean they stopped him. That was a
19:17
Speaker 1: great defensive play on Christian Kirk. I thought, for a moment, Brian,
19:20
Speaker 1: this was gonna feel like remember the Baltimore game if
19:25
Speaker 1: they wanted the Jason Meyers field goal, where they had
19:28
Speaker 1: really no business at the end Situationally, their odds were
19:32
Speaker 1: probably cent to one. That felt like that, all of
19:35
Speaker 1: a sudden you were gifted yards and a time out
19:39
Speaker 1: with the penalty and had a chance to go win it.
19:41
Speaker 1: Uh credit to him for getting in that situation, but
19:44
Speaker 1: boy would have been America. You know. That play reminded
19:46
Speaker 1: me of the Jaguars game in New England back in
19:50
Speaker 1: er Willie Jackson caught the ball right at the goal
19:52
Speaker 1: line with a chance to win the game in regulation
19:54
Speaker 1: and got stopped that short. I keep going back to
19:57
Speaker 1: ninety for the old school people here, because this team
20:00
Speaker 1: feels like that. You can see that there's talented players,
20:03
Speaker 1: but they're young and they're bringing them along and there
20:06
Speaker 1: were painful losses like New England St. Louis, New Orleans,
20:09
Speaker 1: and then they turned it around in November and got
20:12
Speaker 1: things going that can happen with this team, if they
20:15
Speaker 1: can fix some of these little mistakes. It doesn't mean
20:18
Speaker 1: they're going to do the same thing that group did
20:19
Speaker 1: and go on along winning streak, But I think they'll
20:23
Speaker 1: win some games here in the final ten weeks that
20:25
Speaker 1: have people excited because it just feels like this is
20:29
Speaker 1: kind of coming together, but it's not quite there, and
20:32
Speaker 1: it's just taken a little time. It's just taken. It
20:35
Speaker 1: eats my in size to say this, Sheln, but I
20:37
Speaker 1: agree with brian Um that there are a lot of
20:42
Speaker 1: similarities in in that brutal losses and you've had three
20:46
Speaker 1: or four of them big moments, and I don't I
20:51
Speaker 1: cannot predict that a run like nine is gonna happen
20:54
Speaker 1: once in a lifetime, but there are certainly similarities in
20:57
Speaker 1: the sense that I think even if ninety six hadn't
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Speaker 1: happened the way it did, they were building that thing
21:03
Speaker 1: that was going to be consistent for years. This feels
21:06
Speaker 1: like the beginnings of something. I want to tell you
21:08
Speaker 1: one of the keys to ninety six was that James
21:10
Speaker 1: Stewart got going in St. Louis and then Natron Means
21:13
Speaker 1: started running, and you're kind of seeing that with E T.
21:15
Speaker 1: N right and the quarterback found a rhythm with Jimmy
21:19
Speaker 1: and Keenan. And even though you don't necessarily have Jimmy
21:21
Speaker 1: and Keena, but you can see Christian Kirk yesterday and
21:24
Speaker 1: Marvin Jones was back in there, and j Jones made
21:26
Speaker 1: some big things. So there are some there are some moments,
21:29
Speaker 1: there are some places where you can find some momentum.
21:32
Speaker 1: It's just about putting it all together, for sure. And
21:34
Speaker 1: that is highlights on Jaguars Drive Him when we come
21:36
Speaker 1: back on the Jaguars Digital Network. Hot Takes on the
21:38
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Speaker 1: motivates teen motivates our practice habits. Motivators are working. I
22:02
Speaker 1: mean we work, so you gotta work smarter. We're together
22:06
Speaker 1: at as a team. A love the closeness of the unit,
22:09
Speaker 1: closing of the team. Motivated to win. Frustration at all
22:14
Speaker 1: time high for Foya Loui Khan in the postgame press
22:17
Speaker 1: conference yesterday. Frustration and a lot of places here in
22:20
Speaker 1: this building. But that leads us into Hot takes on
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Speaker 1: a Monday morning, Brian, what are you The defense lacks
22:25
Speaker 1: and identity now seven weeks into the season. Remember early
22:28
Speaker 1: on they got after the pastor they created turnovers that
22:31
Speaker 1: they spotted the offense and extra possession and good field position.
22:35
Speaker 1: We haven't seen that in weeks, right, almost a month
22:37
Speaker 1: since we've seen that. Um, they stopped the run last week,
22:41
Speaker 1: they did a great job. They were top three run defense.
22:44
Speaker 1: They couldn't stop the run yesterday. What does this defense do?
22:47
Speaker 1: What do they do? Well? You know, you can point
22:49
Speaker 1: to guys like Trayvon Walker and Devon Lloyd and Josh
22:52
Speaker 1: Allen and and Foya Loui Khan and fully thought to Cossie,
22:56
Speaker 1: we keep going, but this defense lacks an identity. And
23:01
Speaker 1: Mike Coldwell and Bob Sutton, the senior defensive assistant who's
23:05
Speaker 1: been around forever, and that staff have got to pull
23:08
Speaker 1: it together and figure out, here's what we do. Well,
23:10
Speaker 1: let's do that because right now you don't know what
23:14
Speaker 1: to expect. Last week they couldn't stop the pass. Yesterday
23:16
Speaker 1: they couldn't stop the run. You've got to figure that out.
23:19
Speaker 1: You've got to find something that you do and that's
23:21
Speaker 1: got to be your identity right now, it lacks one.
23:24
Speaker 1: I think they stopped running backs pretty well. I don't
23:27
Speaker 1: know if they stopped really well. I think that's been
23:30
Speaker 1: Coe twice in the last month that they have had
23:32
Speaker 1: trouble with that, and twice in the last month they've
23:34
Speaker 1: given up more than two yards rushing. So you can't
23:37
Speaker 1: really say they're a great run defense at this point.
23:39
Speaker 1: I mean, the big difference to me is they I
23:43
Speaker 1: think they wanted to be a great pass rushing team
23:45
Speaker 1: and I just don't think they are, and that has
23:48
Speaker 1: caused them to go from a unbelievable takeaway story to
23:52
Speaker 1: none in the last three games. And boy, doesn't it
23:54
Speaker 1: feel different because that I get you're into the nuts
23:58
Speaker 1: and bolts, and you're right, but the feel is because
24:01
Speaker 1: of that lack of takeaways, John, what you got my
24:04
Speaker 1: hot take, schlenn is the Jaguars do have an identity
24:09
Speaker 1: as a team that makes mistakes of crucial times. And
24:12
Speaker 1: it's what I'm not trying to be facetious about it,
24:15
Speaker 1: but that's what they are right now. Um. I went
24:18
Speaker 1: over the details earlier, the three red zone turnovers Philly
24:24
Speaker 1: Houston E. T N yesterday. How different are those games.
24:30
Speaker 1: You're probably talking about a team above five hundred that
24:33
Speaker 1: has that happy feeling right now. Except for that, um,
24:38
Speaker 1: that's what you are until you're not well. Look, Foyer
24:41
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, practice habits and intensity levels and
24:45
Speaker 1: and some of it's just moments. So I get the
24:47
Speaker 1: practice level and all that, but some of it's no. Well,
24:50
Speaker 1: but but you you play how you practice. I mean,
24:53
Speaker 1: so at some point in time, you've got to have
24:55
Speaker 1: practiced being in the mindset or or the right spot
24:58
Speaker 1: or whatever in terms of making the play. You gotta
25:01
Speaker 1: make it right. That that has to happen. I get it,
25:04
Speaker 1: But I had the veteran player tell me last week.
25:06
Speaker 1: I've been telling you this for two weeks now about
25:08
Speaker 1: guys having to do the extra little things that you
25:11
Speaker 1: get to where you make up play by being ready
25:15
Speaker 1: for it. And what Foyer said and what I've heard
25:17
Speaker 1: is the younger guys on this team aren't ready to
25:20
Speaker 1: make those plays yet. So what do you do wait
25:23
Speaker 1: for them to get there or put yourself in situations
25:25
Speaker 1: on the practice field. You have to make it right.
25:26
Speaker 1: And I think that's what Doug Peterson is coaching staff
25:29
Speaker 1: are trying to do right. And that doesn't happen in
25:31
Speaker 1: a week, doesn't happen overnight. Alright, My hot take is
25:33
Speaker 1: Travis e Tienne is the clear cut number one running back.
25:37
Speaker 1: This James Robinson story is not going away. And and
25:40
Speaker 1: maybe this is I've been told I lacked sympathy at times,
25:43
Speaker 1: So sorry if this sounds a little harsh. Who tell
25:45
Speaker 1: you that? But James James Robinson in the locker room
25:49
Speaker 1: yesterday said he was not hurt, that he is healthy
25:52
Speaker 1: and says, yes, of course, I am frustrated with the
25:54
Speaker 1: lack of production I had yesterday. James Robinson basically wasn't
25:57
Speaker 1: on the field yesterday. He was involved in one play.
26:00
Speaker 1: Travis Etienne is the better running back. We just saw
26:02
Speaker 1: in the highlights that he is progressing. He is the
26:04
Speaker 1: hot hand. Doug Peterson can't say, yeah, Travis Etienne is
26:08
Speaker 1: playing way better than James Robinson right now. He can't
26:10
Speaker 1: say that as a coach. But it's so clear to
26:12
Speaker 1: all of us that Travis Etienne is the better running back.
26:15
Speaker 1: He is going to get more carries because he is
26:17
Speaker 1: a first round draft pick. We're seeing the difference. I
26:20
Speaker 1: think we get caught up in James Robinson because he
26:22
Speaker 1: had such a great season, came back from that injury.
26:25
Speaker 1: It's a great storyline. But if you go back in
26:27
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks and I were talking about this yesterday, at
26:30
Speaker 1: that point in the season with Urban Meyer, James Robinson
26:33
Speaker 1: was the only good thing the Jaguars had. He was
26:35
Speaker 1: the story, he was the progression. Well, now there's more
26:37
Speaker 1: playmakers and they're playing above him right now. It stinks. Yeah,
26:41
Speaker 1: I think we all want James Robinson to do well
26:43
Speaker 1: because he is a great story. But Travis c Tn
26:45
Speaker 1: is playing better right now. Is a really good player?
26:48
Speaker 1: Is paying a great player? Right? Yeah? Well, he's got
26:50
Speaker 1: the speed that will scare defensive coordinators into trying to
26:53
Speaker 1: defend him. Let me I see this, And and again,
26:56
Speaker 1: I've loved the j Robins story. I hope in some
26:59
Speaker 1: Capac city he can be a productive player for a
27:01
Speaker 1: long time. Do you want if you're a fan watching this,
27:05
Speaker 1: do you want em off the field right now? No? No?
27:07
Speaker 1: And and here's to follow that up. When when James
27:12
Speaker 1: had his fifty yard touchdown run in Los Angeles, it
27:15
Speaker 1: was blocked perfectly and he hit that hole and went downhill.
27:20
Speaker 1: That run yesterday, that toss sweep Travis made that happen.
27:24
Speaker 1: Right that that that there's the difference. James can take
27:27
Speaker 1: advantage of what is presented to him, for sure, not
27:30
Speaker 1: as fast as as Travis kN Travis made that happen.
27:34
Speaker 1: He made the inside move. Jay rob doesn't have that.
27:37
Speaker 1: He made the move and then took it all the
27:39
Speaker 1: way down the field. I mean, he's he has There's
27:42
Speaker 1: a reason why he was a first round pick. There
27:44
Speaker 1: was a reason why James Robinson was not. Well, here's
27:47
Speaker 1: the thing that everybody and I'm getting killed in me
27:51
Speaker 1: and he O zone, James Robbing should be playing. Everybody
27:56
Speaker 1: talked about how much they lacked depth. They're really deep
27:59
Speaker 1: and back. James Robinson is really really good e t
28:03
Speaker 1: N might be their best offensive player right now. That
28:05
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I mean, James Robinson's probably better at his
28:09
Speaker 1: position than a lot of guys. Other guys are, but
28:11
Speaker 1: right now is the better running the time they're playing
28:14
Speaker 1: your heartless. But I don't think you're heartless right there?
28:16
Speaker 1: Thank you. I've been told I lacked them. They saw
28:18
Speaker 1: I was like today, yeah, John normally tells me that.
28:24
Speaker 1: All right, I'm glad we're on the same page because
28:26
Speaker 1: I was reading all these frustration and where is James.
28:29
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is so obvious. When you don't win,
28:33
Speaker 1: everyone looks for that backup, whether it's the quarterback or
28:35
Speaker 1: the running back or the receiver that didn't get it
28:37
Speaker 1: because you're looking for an answer. Well, it also doesn't
28:40
Speaker 1: mean there won't be situations. Will still find his way
28:43
Speaker 1: on the field where obviously can playing contribute. But right now,
28:50
Speaker 1: and that is Hot Takes on a Monday morning when
28:52
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29:12
Speaker 1: about this before the show. When you have four hundred
29:14
Speaker 1: and fifty yards of offense, your offensive line good enough
29:17
Speaker 1: to win? Yeah, no sex and uh I think two
29:20
Speaker 1: hurries officially, so uh, you didn't win. But the line is,
29:26
Speaker 1: you know now, they were moments. I'm not sure this
29:30
Speaker 1: is a grinded out offensive line on that sort of play,
29:34
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29:37
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29:57
Speaker 1: thoughts on a Monday morning, as the Jaguars get ready
30:00
Speaker 1: to go to London on Thursday, I can't believe it's
30:03
Speaker 1: already here. It's gonna be a chaotic week, a busy week,
30:06
Speaker 1: but the Jaggers have done this trip before, so it
30:08
Speaker 1: won't be as chaotic as maybe for other teams. No.
30:11
Speaker 1: I mean, they know what they're doing and the you know,
30:15
Speaker 1: logistics people will get them there and get him out.
30:19
Speaker 1: The storyline this week would be will Russell Wilson be
30:21
Speaker 1: ready to play? I mean, you're talking about one of
30:25
Speaker 1: the great quarterbacks in the last decade in this game.
30:27
Speaker 1: If not, you, Brent Ripping, I mean changes the outcome dramatically.
30:33
Speaker 1: Not playing like a great quarterback this year there, so
30:35
Speaker 1: we'll see. Yeah, I know, I know he's not been
30:36
Speaker 1: completely healthy and he's not like and he will he's
30:38
Speaker 1: dangerous but so far this year they've got they've got
30:40
Speaker 1: two receivers in Courtland Sutton and Jerry Judy who can
30:44
Speaker 1: make life very difficult. But they've had a bunch of
30:46
Speaker 1: injuries that Javonte Williams, the big running back, the second
30:49
Speaker 1: year kid from North Carolina, has done and I really
30:52
Speaker 1: think he was one of the bright young running backs
30:54
Speaker 1: in the game last year. So they're not fully healthy. Um, go,
30:59
Speaker 1: I don't care. He played the little Sisters of the poor, right,
31:02
Speaker 1: Go get a win and change the trajectory of this thing.
31:05
Speaker 1: Do something to create some momentum. The Broncos in a
31:08
Speaker 1: very interesting spot right now. By the way, great running team, yeah, yeah,
31:12
Speaker 1: very good teams. All right, we'll talk more about that
31:14
Speaker 1: on Wednesday's drive time. Stay with us on Jaguars dot Com.
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