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How to Get Work-Life Balance, Using Astrology w/ Astrologer Taylor Shuler · Astrology Hub Podcast

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  Welcome to the astrology hub podcast.
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  I'm Amanda Poole Walsh, founder of astrology hub and your host for our flagship show.
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  Jamie: Now, if you don't know me, my name is Jamie McGee.
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  Jamie: I am a host of star signs on this platform, and sometimes you see me on the weekly weather as well.
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  Jamie: But today I am here with the astrologer connect astrologer, Taylor Schuller, exploring a subject that we have noticed a lot of people are kind of contending with right now.
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  Jamie: And that is how to overcome
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  Taylor: burnouts.
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  Taylor: Hi Taylor.
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  Taylor: How are you doing today?
• 2:09
  Taylor: I'm good.
• 2:10
  Taylor: Hey Jamie.
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  Taylor: It's so good to be here with you today.
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  Jamie: I love it.
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  Jamie: And if you guys have not met Taylor before, you definitely missed out, but she's definitely an astrology hub favorite.
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  Jamie: She's been on the weekly weather.
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  Jamie: We've had lots of wonderful.
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  Jamie: Discussions with her.
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  Jamie: She's an award-winning astrologer op, Oprah's most promising astrologer among many other things.
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  Jamie: She's definitely a specialist when it comes to really helping you thrive in your day-to-day, lives, and how to work with entrepreneurship and so much spirited love and expression of yourself.
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  Jamie: I love personally talking to Taylor about astrology.
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  Jamie: We you're doing that, doing that backstage just a minute ago.
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  Jamie: So, Taylor, are you hearing a lot from people about burnout and what they're experiencing right now?
• 2:49
  Taylor: Absolutely.
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  Taylor: You know, I was just going through some old files that I had just to kind of, I mean, I talk about it all the time, but I was like, you know, I feel like there's some stuff is going through old files.
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  Taylor: And I came across some old files that I had on burnout and they were from, Oh goodness.
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  Taylor: They were from 2018.
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  Taylor: And so I was thinking, wow, this conversation about burnout from 2018 until now has really evolved.
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  Taylor: Right.
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  Taylor: So I have been, an HR practitioner and leader.
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  Taylor: And so I would give presentations on burnout.
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  Taylor: I would talk with employees and managers about burnout.
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  Taylor: And now as an astrologer, I do the same thing, but I understand it in a totally different way.
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  Taylor: I myself have dealt with burnout more than once.
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  Taylor: And I think We all know that the pandemic has been so difficult for all of us on so many different levels, right?
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  Taylor: Socially, emotionally, physically, in terms of grief for many of us.
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  Taylor: And there are so many triggers, for burnout.
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  Taylor: We've hit all of them many times, unfortunately.
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  Taylor: And...
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  Taylor: It's so ingrained in us to just keep going, just keep moving, just keep doing, just keep working, right?
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  Taylor: Especially where we're at in the United States.
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  Taylor: It's part of our culture.
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  Taylor: It's like, if you don't work, like you don't deserve, like you're not worthy of living almost is kind of what.
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  Taylor: We get and if you don't work you can't live you can't survive and so we we work ourselves to the bone and burn ourselves out and I see it all the time and I'm so grateful to have astrology to really be able to understand the cycle, understand some of the levers that people have available to them and, really be able to have personalized, unique, customized conversations with people that really resonate with them based on their astrological charts and what our natural cycles are as people, right?
• 4:51
  Taylor: So another thing that I do is permaculture, which is, It was originated for like farming without pesticides and without heavy machinery, but it basically looked at nature and said, How does nature operate?
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  Taylor: How does nature create food, you know, and how does it keep doing that for billions of years without any humans doing anything?
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  Taylor: And it really understood that system and came up with a number of principles and ethics.
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  Taylor: And so I apply that to the work that I do, whether that's business management or astrology, I apply those permaculture principles and ethics to really help folks to see how can we work naturally, how, you know, with nature, whether it's the nature of the sky, the nature of the earth, the nature of our bodies, so that we can be not resilient because resilient is almost like, you know, burn it down and build it back up again, but regenerative where we're pouring into ourselves and overflowing and that overflow then is given to other people instead of constantly operating from this.
• 5:53
  Taylor: Empty cup.
• 5:55
  Jamie: Yes.
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  Jamie: Yes.
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  Jamie: I love how you said that.
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  Jamie: And it is so true.
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  Jamie: Cause like I, I get sometimes envious of my international clients when they're like, I'm going on holiday and they mean like four or six months or really like a holiday.
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  Jamie: And I'm like, I might could get Saturday off if I work really hard.
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  Jamie: So it really is a concept that can be really impactful.
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  Jamie: And I think one of the biggest risks of burnout is often we don't realize that we're a burnout.
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  Jamie: So we're.
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  Jamie: Far past the point of actually being burnt out because it is like this survivor mode, but really taking it back down to, what you're talking about was far as the earth.
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  Jamie: Cause I was thinking about that the other day when I was outside grounding, like there is a cycle here and there is no compromise with this cycle when you're in nature.
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  Jamie: Like you understand there's an end.
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  Jamie: There's a rhythm and you can fight it.
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  Jamie: You can try to plant seeds in the winter and the ice and see what happens.
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  Jamie: And you know, magic
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  Taylor: does well like that, you know, you've got to crack the seeds open, you know, you need to cold stratify certain things, but most things don't need to be killed.
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  Taylor: So I
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  Jamie: completely, and I, and I, and I tried to, in my stubbornness, not in my stubbornness, I was just busy, but I literally.
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  Jamie: I planted my garden on a time period that was not a new moon, not anything that was fertile.
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  Jamie: Like I broke every rule and that thing is not, there's nothing happening there.
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  Jamie: There's dirt.
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  Jamie: Like I'm doing whatever I can do to get like just a little spring coming up.
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  Jamie: And I think it's because I just, I tried to like override it.
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  Jamie: But yeah, definitely.
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  Jamie: Um, I love how you kind of, what you talked about bringing it back to the systems.
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  Jamie: Can you, what would you say will be a good example of how astrology can be used as a tool?
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  Jamie: in general to understand, okay, this is my breaking point, or is there certain cycles or what's, what's one tool of astrology can be used to, to help
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  Taylor: avoid?
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  Taylor: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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  Taylor: So I think, um, there, there's so many, but before we get there, I just wanted to like share a couple statistics so that people can feel like they, you know, it, you're not alone, right?
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  Taylor: So one statistic that's important, I think for folks to know is that on average, 77 to 89% of folks have reported burnout.
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  Taylor: And, uh, on average, women experience burnout more frequently than men.
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  Taylor: So, uh, men have reported on a percentage of about 28%, whereas women, it was, it was in the Uh, low to mid 30 percentage rates of reporting burnout and then about 40 to 45% of middle managers experience burnout because it's like you're being pulled in both directions.
• 8:30
  Taylor: And there are certain times in life when we see folks, and I've definitely experienced this working with clients, working, you know, even in my HR days.
• 8:41
  Taylor: with, uh, with my HR clients, you know, other employees basically, that there's a certain age where burnout can be a little stronger, right?
• 8:51
  Taylor: So one of those ages, and employers are pretty aware of this.
• 8:56
  Taylor: is just like being a middle manager.
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  Taylor: There's like this middle part in life when you have kids and you have parents and the parents need your care and the kids need your care.
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  Taylor: And so not everyone has kids.
• 9:06
  Taylor: I don't have kids.
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  Taylor: Um, my parents are in another state.
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  Taylor: Um, so, but I have been there in a place where, you know, I was like, Do I need to be there for my parents right now?
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  Taylor: Right?
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  Taylor: You know, times change.
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  Taylor: And so it happens to coincide quite frequently with a number of transit.
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  Taylor: So to your point, to your question, like, are there astrological signatures that we can look for?
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  Taylor: So I think there are certain transits certainly that bring more stress to our lives that bring more, um, that demand more of us.
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  Taylor: So Um, You can look at almost any planet and try to understand this is going to burn you out, right?
• 9:48
  Taylor: Um, you can also look at that and say, if I'm feeling this negative thing, what is the invitation?
• 9:53
  Taylor: Because when you know what's coming, it's not saying you're going to get burned out if you have a Saturn transit, or a Pluto transit, or a Uranus transit.
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  Taylor: That's not the case.
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  Taylor: You can say, hey, there's a time coming when it's...
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  Taylor: It could happen, but what is the invitation for your soul?
• 10:12
  Taylor: Right?
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  Taylor: If you're getting burnt out, what it's asking you to do really is slow down is to say no, is to say, um, you know, yes.
• 10:21
  Taylor: And right.
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  Taylor: And when I say yes, and I don't mean, uh, yes, I will do everything.
• 10:27
  Taylor: Right?
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  Taylor: So I have, for example, sun squared Jupiter, which means one of the interpretations is I spread myself way too thin.
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  Taylor: I just say yes to everything.
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  Taylor: I do everything.
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  Taylor: But you can say yes, that's a great idea.
• 10:40
  Taylor: And I don't have the capacity for that right now.
• 10:43
  Taylor: You know, yes.
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  Taylor: And we're going to need more help.
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  Taylor: Can we hire more people to do that?
• 10:48
  Taylor: Um, or and not even can we, we will need to hire more people in order to accomplish that goal, right?
• 10:54
  Taylor: It's about reframing it for your employer, reframing it for your friends and family.
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  Taylor: Whoever is asking for the thing, you can say yes.
• 11:01
  Taylor: And there are needs in order to get that met, right?
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  Taylor: So Saturn transit, if you're experiencing burnout and you're having a Saturn transit, I think the invitation is to, uh, demonstrate responsibility, maturity, taking, uh, responsibility for your emotions, right?
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  Taylor: Like, um, especially if it's your moon, if you're having a Uranus transit and you're feeling burned out and, um, maybe you're feeling some anxiety, it's like.
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  Taylor: Where's the action?
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  Taylor: Where's the inspiration?
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  Taylor: You know, are you needing to invite some change into your life?
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  Taylor: You really need to shake things up and try something new and step outside your comfort zone if it's a Pluto transit How is this going to help empower you?
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  Taylor: Right.
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  Taylor: But I think the number one thing for me with burnout that I see that I love about astrology is the progressed moon cycle, because you can really see, especially when you get into a phase of a balsamic progressed moon cycle.
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  Taylor: That is time to slow down, right?
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  Taylor: And so, some folks might be wondering, like, what is the progress?
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  Taylor: Moon cycle, right?
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  Taylor: And so, what I'm talking about is the relationship between the sun and the moon.
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  Taylor: We have a new moon, we have a full moon, and in our charts, we have the same.
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  Taylor: And so, natally, you're gonna wanna know what your lunar phase is, natally, and take very, very good care of that.
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  Taylor: And if you take very, very good care of, you know, the sign of your moon, and the phase of your moon, and honor that, you're going to be pretty solid and also you want to know what your progressed lunar phase is and your progressed moon sign.
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  Taylor: So we move the chart ahead one day.
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  Taylor: So if you were born on January 1st, when you're one years old, you'd move the chart to January 2nd, like same time of day.
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  Taylor: But because we have this, advanced software, we can actually move the chart like for every day and minute and month of the year and just move it forward.
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  Taylor: And so, you know, basically by the time you're 30.
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  Taylor: Years old.
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  Taylor: That's one month later.
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  Taylor: That's 30 days after you were born.
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  Taylor: We would look at the chart for that day and the moon is going to match, at 29.
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  Taylor: 5 years, the moon is going to match.
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  Taylor: Right.
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  Taylor: The same place that it was in before or the same phase that it was in before, because every 27.
• 13:28
  Taylor: 3 days, we have what's called a sidereal return where the moon returns the same spot in the sky.
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  Taylor: And every 29.
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  Taylor: 5 days, we have, uh, lunar phase return.
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  Taylor: So the relationship between the sun and the moon is the same.
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  Taylor: So we look at, you know, if you're 57, your chart for 57 days after you're born, and what was the relationship between the sun and the moon there and compare that to your phase in your natal chart.
• 13:53
  Taylor: And if that phase happens to be like after a full moon, but before a new moon, you're sort of in this cycle where.
• 13:59
  Taylor: Yeah.
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  Taylor: The light of the moon is waning and so is your energy.
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  Taylor: You're ending a cycle, right?
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  Taylor: You've gone from this new moon to this blossoming peak moment, uh, of a full moon.
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  Taylor: And this is like a, about a 30 year cycle.
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  Taylor: So every 30 months, your progressed moon is going to change signs.
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  Taylor: But every 40, five months, the phase is going to change and you're going to feel an energetic phase change.
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  Taylor: And that's something to be honored.
• 14:27
  Taylor: So there's this 45 month period of a balsamic progressed moon phase that we all have at least once, twice, three, if we're lucky four times in our life.
• 14:38
  Taylor: And it's a time of dreaming.
• 14:40
  Taylor: It's like when you need to take a sabbatical, um, it's when.
• 14:46
  Taylor: Not everyone gets that opportunity.
• 14:47
  Taylor: Not everyone's that fortunate to be able to take a sabbatical, right?
• 14:51
  Taylor: Especially for 45 months.
• 14:53
  Taylor: Um, but it's like, you know, the energy's low.
• 14:57
  Taylor: And just like you were talking about seeds, like, are you going to plant something in the winter?
• 15:01
  Taylor: You try to start new stuff and try to be really energetic during your progressed balsamic moon phase.
• 15:06
  Taylor: It's not going to feel good.
• 15:08
  Taylor: That's really, if you, if you push and push and push, I think that's the number one time when I would say, depending on the other transits, going on in your life.
• 15:18
  Taylor: Be proactive about taking good care of yourself and knowing that you need to nap.
• 15:23
  Taylor: You need to dream.
• 15:24
  Taylor: You need to rest.
• 15:25
  Taylor: You need to go to the spa.
• 15:26
  Taylor: You need to be by the water, go by the seaside, do that kind of stuff.
• 15:30
  Taylor: And it's when you kind of ask your employer, like, you know, can I change projects?
• 15:36
  Taylor: Can I do something different now?
• 15:38
  Taylor: I need to wind down, right?
• 15:40
  Taylor: So you're Capturing the institutional memory from your job, perhaps, but not necessarily like running everything or you're transitioning into a manager role so that you're taking your knowledge and experience and transferring it to other people so that they can now have that opportunity to learn and grow and you now have things off your plate and you can kind of Sit back and be more of a director, more of a manager, and I don't want to say sit back because it's a lot of responsibility, but maybe not be doing the efforting and be doing more of like having people come to you and, you know, you just direct them and you be there and you hold space for them.
• 16:18
  Taylor: And that's more of a symbiotic.
• 16:23
  Taylor: relationship and what we need to be okay with, you know, I had one person, not just one, but I remember one conversation in particular that I had with an HR colleague.
• 16:34
  Taylor: And she was like, well, you can't go from like being a level like we had, we had grades of employees, right?
• 16:40
  Taylor: Which I don't like, but it is the way it was.
• 16:43
  Taylor: And it was like A, B, C, D, and the higher the letter, you know, the higher the pay grade.
• 16:48
  Taylor: And so basically like an A level job was like very basic skills were needed.
• 16:52
  Taylor: And she's like, well, you have to start at like level A before you can get, you can't just skip from A to G.
• 16:57
  Taylor: And I was like, that's really interesting.
• 16:59
  Taylor: Cause some people just have the skills that are more like managerial, more like.
• 17:04
  Taylor: You know, you can go high level and some people are, you know, want to work, want to be Gemini, Virgo, Mercury, like hands on everything, very detail oriented.
• 17:15
  Taylor: And some people want to be more Jupiterian and see the big picture.
• 17:20
  Taylor: Um, and so I don't think that you have to know how to do everything before you can elevate.
• 17:26
  Taylor: It's just, it's a myth.
• 17:27
  Taylor: We all have different gifts and we need to honor that.
• 17:30
  Jamie: Such an interesting, um, concept too.
• 17:33
  Jamie: And I know the progress moon is, if those of you who are kind of new to astrology may seem like really big, but, and it is a really long term kind of scale, like it's a theme that you'd work with, but I love everything you said about the moon sign.
• 17:44
  Jamie: And that was one of the things that I remember adapting to really early on when I was an entrepreneur in my early twenties, like that's a high stress job.
• 17:51
  Jamie: It was an international company.
• 17:52
  Jamie: I had a lot of employees, it was fast paced, but.
• 17:56
  Jamie: I had this like tendency and I still notice it because I find that like we almost gravitate towards people who have the opposite or the same depending on a team, but I was born in a balsamic moon.
• 18:06
  Jamie: So if you are like, you get into astrology, you're like, I'm going to really focus on the moon and I'm going to start everything with the new moon and then by the full moon, I'm going to have my intentions and I'm going to let go of stuff like that's a great rhythm.
• 18:18
  Jamie: to dial into and on some level you will feel connected to that.
• 18:22
  Jamie: But if you were born in a balsamic moon, that new moon to you is going to be like you've, you're over here in the dark while everyone else is still like slumbering.
• 18:31
  Jamie: You're the one getting your ideas going and you're starting to see the seeds and you're just working at a different phase.
• 18:36
  Jamie: So no matter how new you are to astrology, if you can like just kind of do a little bit of Google search or definitely find, find us on astrology connect, we can help you figure out.
• 18:45
  Jamie: When your moon cycle is, because just dialing into, I'm a full moon, baby, a new moon, baby, or what quarter I am, that'll help you start to set your intentions and, and also knowing, what your moon needs, which I think you really tapped into Taylor, because some of us find comforts, like I have a Gemini moon.
• 19:03
  Jamie: I nurture myself with information.
• 19:06
  Jamie: Like I want all the podcasts.
• 19:08
  Jamie: I want the books.
• 19:08
  Jamie: That gives me comfort where if I were someone like if I had a water moon and I weren't in like tried to inform myself, I'd probably feel overwhelmed and that would be the opposite of what I need.
• 19:19
  Jamie: So kind of dialing into what that moon sign needs in general, I think, It's very healthy.
• 19:25
  Jamie: And I also want to comment on the Saturn thing that you said, I found, I think that we get this fear when we start to learn astrology.
• 19:34
  Jamie: I have a Saturn return.
• 19:35
  Jamie: I have Uranus.
• 19:36
  Jamie: Oh, my God.
• 19:36
  Jamie: Pluto's here.
• 19:37
  Jamie: What am I going to do?
• 19:38
  Jamie: And.
• 19:40
  Jamie: That's a valid question because you, if you, you know, when Saturn sitting at your dinner table, he's hard to miss, you know, when Pluto's kind of hanging out in the front yard, but I really think that it's not so much when these planets show up that matter as much as what you do prior to that point, what you do in the little moments day in and day out because if you've been working along doing your Saturn, the Saturn in your chart, whatever that mastery level is, when you get to your Saturn return or a Saturn speaking to a planet, there's an elevation.
• 20:12
  Jamie: And if you are building a life that you do not have to escape from, Then when Uranus comes along, it's not going to be, I need to escape.
• 20:20
  Jamie: Like right now there's an emergency, our urgency to it.
• 20:24
  Jamie: And I know that that's definitely easier said than done all day long, but really that I think the best advice for a burning, um, what I tell my clients when they feel burnout is like, okay, we have to take, take a step back, take a deep breath.
• 20:39
  Jamie: Like we're trying to solve the short term problem and not That long term issue.
• 20:44
  Jamie: Like if you're, if the decision you're making now, is it going to, is it solving how long will that decision, how long can you scale that?
• 20:52
  Jamie: How can you expand that in the future?
• 20:54
  Jamie: Can you work at that capacity for the next five years of your life day in and day out?
• 20:58
  Jamie: And what, and what is the, what is the exchange from that?
• 21:01
  Jamie: What is it going to do to your health?
• 21:02
  Jamie: What is it going to do to your family?
• 21:05
  Jamie: It's like, where's it like, those are some.
• 21:07
  Jamie: I think when you sort of ground into those decisions, um, you start to look at the tensions in your life a little bit different.
• 21:14
  Jamie: Like this is the problem and where's the solution.
• 21:18
  Jamie: I mean, are you finding that
• 21:19
  Taylor: too?
• 21:20
  Taylor: You know, I think that's such a good way to look at it.
• 21:23
  Taylor: And you bring up such a good point that I just want to.
• 21:27
  Taylor: Like repeat it again for people that you said you have a balsamic moon phase natally and I have a last quarter phase natally.
• 21:35
  Taylor: And I really find myself always during a balsamic moon wanting to launch things and I always needing to be like, schedule it post.
• 21:44
  Taylor: And it's like, don't not do it, but can you do the work and harvest it to then work with the mundane.
• 21:54
  Taylor: weather, right?
• 21:55
  Taylor: The weather that's going on at the same time.
• 21:57
  Taylor: So by knowing your cycle, but then knowing the world cycle, those are different things.
• 22:02
  Taylor: And knowing there's nothing wrong with you.
• 22:03
  Taylor: It's very natural to like have that energetic reset when you have your phase return or when you have your monthly And you said you're a Gemini moon.
• 22:14
  Taylor: And so it's like you like to read and get information and write and things like that.
• 22:17
  Taylor: And I think that's a really good thing to point out to folks is like, we all have a moon that has a modality and a moon that has, uh, uh, an element, right.
• 22:27
  Taylor: And you can work with the elements, right?
• 22:30
  Taylor: So if you are a fire moon, like Aries, Leo, or Sagittarius.
• 22:35
  Taylor: You're probably the type of person that needs to be active in order to care for your moon in a way that's going to feel regenerative.
• 22:44
  Taylor: So, for example, Aries moons.
• 22:47
  Taylor: With few exceptions, you know, maybe if your Aries moon is in the 12th house or it's aspected by like, um, like Saturn in a way.
• 22:57
  Taylor: These are the folks who, when I was in an office, they would change their clothes at lunch every single day and go for a run and come back an hour.
• 23:06
  Taylor: They'd run for the whole hour of lunch and then like eat for 10 minutes after their run.
• 23:11
  Taylor: But they'd be...
• 23:12
  Taylor: such nicer people, like totally, um, like more fun and and they were happy.
• 23:19
  Taylor: Like they'd come back with a huge smile on their face.
• 23:22
  Taylor: Leo Moons, you're going to want to like laugh and be with other people and entertain.
• 23:26
  Taylor: And One of my favorite things about Leo moons are they're such great cheerleaders.
• 23:30
  Taylor: So like they're gonna feel like their moon is really cared for when they're not only like having the light shined on them for what they're appreciated for by being active and out there but also when they're shining a light on other people and bringing attention to other people's talents and Sagittarius moons the ones that I know they they also got to be in the gym They want to go for a walk.
• 23:54
  Taylor: They want to get in the car, go for a ride, ride a bike, right?
• 23:58
  Taylor: Um, Sagittarius is the thighs, so things that, you know, might move your thigh muscles.
• 24:03
  Taylor: Or they might want to expand their mind in some way, read something philosophical, like, uh, tune in to the news if that feels like it's going to be intellectually challenging to them.
• 24:13
  Taylor: But they're really going to need to move physically.
• 24:16
  Taylor: Now, an air moon, like Jamie was saying, that's going to be Gemini, uh, Libra, and Aquarius.
• 24:22
  Taylor: They might be more social, right?
• 24:23
  Taylor: So, and social could be actually with other people, uh, or it could just be getting information.
• 24:29
  Taylor: But how do we, what do we do with other people, right?
• 24:31
  Taylor: We get information.
• 24:32
  Taylor: So, Gemini Moon might want to read, write, or do something with your hands because it's Mercury.
• 24:37
  Taylor: So you might, like, knit or crochet, or make beaded bracelets, um, or something like that.
• 24:44
  Taylor: If you've got a, uh, Libra Moon, You might be more about, you know, being in relationship or trying to understand the dynamics of a situation, right?
• 24:54
  Taylor: Because Libra's both sides of a thing and being the diplomat, uh, or maybe trying to like escape from that in some way and attend to your beauty, right?
• 25:03
  Taylor: Um, one Libra moon friend of mine, she created an adoration practice so that like her thing was And it was always in the mirror, right?
• 25:12
  Taylor: And that really honors that Aries Lieber dynamic of needing to have someone across the way to look at.
• 25:18
  Taylor: But adoring yourself and bringing in the Venusian beauty aspect.
• 25:22
  Taylor: And really making sure that you can care for yourself so that you can be in that dynamic with other people who have, like, opposing opinions and stuff, right?
• 25:30
  Taylor: You can go out and...
• 25:31
  Taylor: really have your cup overflow.
• 25:33
  Taylor: And then an Aquarius moon, um, might mean to like decompress behind the scenes and just compartmentalize the situation and take it more like unemotionally and just say, you know, this is just the facts of the situation.
• 25:47
  Taylor: How can I help like society to be better and be more humanitarian and philanthropic.
• 25:53
  Taylor: And then we've got water moons who We need to sleep and bathe like we need naps.
• 25:59
  Taylor: We need music.
• 26:00
  Taylor: We need water because our moons are so emotional.
• 26:04
  Taylor: So we need to sing and we need to cry and we need to let it out.
• 26:08
  Taylor: Um, and then, uh, So it's a fire air and then we've got earth, right?
• 26:13
  Taylor: So an earth moon is going to probably want to keep their house really tidy and clean.
• 26:18
  Taylor: They're going to want to make sure that they're eating, you know, don't, do not let an earth moon get hangry on you.
• 26:25
  Taylor: Um, that's, that's not the plan.
• 26:27
  Taylor: Make sure the fridge is full.
• 26:29
  Taylor: We've got a plan for dinner, right?
• 26:31
  Taylor: Whether it's a smoothie or.
• 26:33
  Taylor: ordering in or the crockpot that was there.
• 26:36
  Taylor: But the earth moon is going to want to really have their physical material environment, their physical needs, their material needs met.
• 26:44
  Taylor: And they're out there working really hard all day.
• 26:46
  Taylor: And so that's why they're going to need to have a really big, good, nutritious meal at the end of the day, but they're probably going to want their physical environments be comfortable and clean and tidy and not like a mess so they can just be when they come home.
• 27:01
  Taylor: And so I think those are some of the ways, uh, that you can care for your moon in terms of the elements.
• 27:07
  Jamie: I love all of that.
• 27:08
  Jamie: And I love seeing these comments about what your moon sign is.
• 27:11
  Jamie: So if you're here with us live and you know what your moon sign is and your moon phase, definitely share that with us.
• 27:16
  Jamie: I think that'll probably help you find some common friends in place.
• 27:20
  Jamie: You're like, yeah, I do that too.
• 27:21
  Jamie: Like that's exactly what I need.
• 27:23
  Jamie: We had someone say, my sons are both Sagittarius moons and they're always in the gym.
• 27:27
  Jamie: I kind of wish I had a sad moon now.
• 27:31
  Jamie: I can work on some more.
• 27:33
  Jamie: But yeah, I definitely think this is some great advice about how to dial into all of this.
• 27:38
  Jamie: This has been a wonderful conversation, but I do have a question for you because like there, I think there'll be a good way to kind of round out the conversation.
• 27:46
  Jamie: If you find yourself in burnout, what are some steps to get out of that?
• 27:51
  Jamie: Like, what are some practical usable steps that you can do to unwind and get on track again?
• 27:58
  Jamie: Oh,
• 27:59
  Taylor: my gosh, it's such a good question.
• 28:01
  Taylor: Well, one of them I think is knowing that burnout is a result of the system more often than not.
• 28:08
  Taylor: I would say 99.
• 28:10
  Taylor: 9% of the time we are burning out because of the structural composition and systems of the society that we live within.
• 28:20
  Taylor: And so knowing that it's not your fault and knowing that we can change the system to a certain extent, but also that there's ways to operate within the system that allows us to take back our agency and gets our needs met.
• 28:33
  Taylor: So I think first of all, knowing your moon phase, knowing your moon sign and your progressed, uh, moon sign and phase are really helpful from an astrological perspective, knowing what transits are going on and what the invitation is so that you can shift your strategy and what you're doing so that, um, You know, really honoring your chart and the energies is going to shift your energy.
• 28:55
  Taylor: It is going to really release things, and it may take time.
• 28:59
  Taylor: Um, but essentially, I think, for me, what it comes down to, the main levers of burnout are time.
• 29:09
  Taylor: And I say resources, not money, but many people will just see that as money, right?
• 29:13
  Taylor: Because most of us are working a job and whether you're exempt or non exempt, you need to work a certain number of hours a week.
• 29:23
  Taylor: And that's not normal.
• 29:25
  Taylor: It's not, um, and I mean normal in terms of, human history, right?
• 29:31
  Taylor: So I've done anthropological, um, I don't wanna say research, but I've studied anthropology of how we act naturally as humans, right?
• 29:40
  Taylor: And what that showed was that humans Us, we only work 8 to 32 hours a week and only like 1 to 4 people in any kind of tribe would work 30 hours a week and they would only do that about 4 weeks out of the year.
• 30:00
  Taylor: So know that we are actually operating at a level that is way beyond our maximum.
• 30:06
  Taylor: And we've been doing it for decades and it's time that we kind of question the system that we're in and why we're doing things because we don't need to be doing things the way that we've always been doing them.
• 30:16
  Taylor: We don't need to exchange our time for money.
• 30:19
  Taylor: We can actually just, and I don't want to make it sound as simple as like manifest and step into an abundance mindset.
• 30:25
  Taylor: No, there are actual practical sustainable business strategies that you can implement and you can turn your expertise into passive income or into income that you receive on a part time schedule.
• 30:39
  Taylor: There's many people who are doing this.
• 30:41
  Taylor: We're in an information age, right?
• 30:44
  Taylor: We're not quite in that age of Aquarius, but with Pluto moving into Aquarius, it's an air sign.
• 30:49
  Taylor: It's about information.
• 30:51
  Taylor: There's many other things going on and have been going on for the past couple.
• 30:54
  Taylor: of years, in terms of transits where we're seeing the information economy boom.
• 31:01
  Taylor: And so getting into the information economy allows us to exchange our information, our intellectual property, um, our skills for money instead of our time.
• 31:14
  Taylor: And I think that if we could do that, if people can do that, then we can break the cycle of burnout because you can't break the cycle without resting.
• 31:23
  Taylor: So we need to somehow stop trading our time for money and get money some other way so that we can take the time that we need to rest.
• 31:32
  Jamie: Absolutely.
• 31:32
  Jamie: I love that.
• 31:33
  Jamie: Because I do think that that's, that's definitely a hard, um, that's a hard line to draw.
• 31:37
  Jamie: And sometimes, and I know that I'm by no means a minimalist, but I do respect, like, um, you have to understand, like, there's both values and boundaries that come into that.
• 31:48
  Jamie: So like, what is important to you and why?
• 31:50
  Jamie: Like, what, like, if you were the only person on the planet, would you need the house?
• 31:53
  Jamie: Would you need the car?
• 31:54
  Jamie: Would you need this?
• 31:54
  Jamie: And sometimes your environment says, yes, I do need this.
• 31:57
  Jamie: Basic survival.
• 31:59
  Jamie: This is exactly what I need to happen.
• 32:01
  Jamie: But yeah, I, I love everything you said and I think I would add to it, um, to always like, lean into your Saturn and, and don't be afraid to use healthy boundaries that says, no, I can't do this.
• 32:10
  Jamie: And the, the loudest person when you put up a boundary is gonna be the person on the other side of it.
• 32:15
  Jamie: But I mean, another, um, This is something that I mean, this is the mom of me coming out because I tell this to my kids all the time.
• 32:23
  Jamie: Like if, if you've got time to complain about it, you've got time to do something about it.
• 32:27
  Jamie: So if you do find that you are constantly saying, Oh my gosh, this is about my day.
• 32:32
  Jamie: And then kind of going through it, like, what could you do differently about that?
• 32:35
  Jamie: Because the more you focus on what's wrong with it, the more.
• 32:39
  Jamie: that's just it's like it's going to inflame it.
• 32:41
  Jamie: So what can you do to make a change?
• 32:43
  Jamie: And sometimes that changes, I'm going to actually use my vacation time.
• 32:47
  Jamie: I'm going to, to, to turn this off or turn that off or say that I need this in compensation for my time.
• 32:54
  Jamie: And,
• 32:55
  Taylor: I just want to get on that point of vacation time, because the, one of the things I'd see as an HR.
• 33:01
  Taylor: practitioner is people treating vacation time not as rejuvenation time, but as a bank.
• 33:07
  Taylor: And that is not a safe strategy because at any point an employer can run out of money or change their policy that you are not allowed to cash out your vacation policy.
• 33:17
  Taylor: So please use your vacation time every single year.
• 33:20
  Taylor: Don't count it as a bank because it's not a bank.
• 33:24
  Jamie: Even if you need a staycation, like those are also like really great to just can, what can you do at home?
• 33:29
  Jamie: Like, like you Netflix and chill, read something, but just, just finding a way to disconnect.
• 33:34
  Jamie: And I think what you find too early, and I know that I definitely experienced this is sometimes after like a really hard push and I go on vacation, it's like day four before I even like.
• 33:44
  Jamie: forget about work.
• 33:45
  Jamie: And so like the vacation is like two days long because I'm getting ready for to go back.
• 33:50
  Jamie: Like my mind's already there.
• 33:51
  Jamie: So yeah, just daily little practices, putting up healthy boundaries, speaking up about what you have, something.
• 33:58
  Jamie: And if you find that you're completely always speaking about, something that you don't like, then maybe use that mind power and that language to think about how can I solve this problem?
• 34:07
  Jamie: And sometimes that may mean, you know, leaving employers or like in the information age, finding different ways to support yourself or exchange your, your mannerism.
• 34:16
  Jamie: But sometimes, the universe is definitely asking you to leave something.
• 34:20
  Jamie: It makes you uncomfortable so that you will grow because at the same measure, we're always supposed to be growing.
• 34:27
  Jamie: So there's always gonna be a little bit of discomfort or disease, but Knowing what's sustainable for you, what's healthy for your mind and your body in the short term
• 34:37
  Taylor: and not only stand up for yourself and speak up for yourself as an individual, but we're moving into a time with the nodes and areas and Libra.
• 34:43
  Taylor: And then in a year and a half, they'll move into Virgo and Pisces, where we're going to see another collective shift where we all come together.
• 34:50
  Taylor: We have this Aquarian, Pluto and Aquarius voice, collective voice.
• 34:55
  Taylor: where we're speaking up for getting our needs met and you're already seeing that in the news right now, right?
• 35:01
  Taylor: I won't call it any companies, but if you're paying attention to the news, you're seeing large groups of people with strong, powerful influence standing up for other groups of people who have less power.
• 35:12
  Taylor: Do you have a lot of power at the same time?
• 35:15
  Taylor: And then that Aries person, that individual, the CEO who's like in charge, you know, facing that Libra or Aquarian group.
• 35:23
  Taylor: And so it is important to say your opinion, YOLO, right?
• 35:27
  Taylor: You only live one that we know of and remember, for the most part.
• 35:31
  Taylor: And, you're courageous enough to be one in what, 400 trillion to be born.
• 35:36
  Taylor: Be courageous enough to state your opinion and stand up and join with other people and make sure you're taking care of yourself, taking care of other people.
• 35:45
  Taylor: And we're all saying what we actually need and getting because we have the power to get our needs met.
• 35:50
  Taylor: Absolutely.
• 35:51
  Taylor: Absolutely.
• 35:52
  Taylor: Yes, we
• 35:52
  Jamie: do.
• 35:52
  Jamie: We do.
• 35:53
  Jamie: This is such a powerful conversation, and I really do hope that it helps a lot of you that were listening, kind of dial into what is important and why it's important.
• 36:00
  Jamie: But I think the bottom line is definitely just making yourself a priority in every situation, which is a very, very much an Aries North note.
• 36:07
  Jamie: It is about me because a lot of times we are all there for we were there for our team, but making yourself a priority, listening to your inner voice, dialing into what's important to you and why.
• 36:18
  Jamie: But this has been so great, Taylor.
• 36:20
  Jamie: I always love meeting with you.
• 36:21
  Jamie: I love chatting with you.
• 36:22
  Jamie: I like, and Taylor and I are known for going on for hours and hours.
• 36:26
  Jamie: So we won't take you guys down that path with us.
• 36:29
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• 36:31
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• 36:44
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• 36:45
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• 36:46
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• 36:50
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• 37:01
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• 37:05
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• 37:10
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• 37:23
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• 37:35
  Jamie: But, um, yeah, Taylor, again, I thank you so much for being here, sharing all your wisdom.
• 37:41
  Jamie: Thank
• 37:41
  Taylor: you so much.
• 37:41
  Taylor: Jamie.
• 37:42
  Taylor: It was a privilege and a pleasure as always.
• 37:44
  Taylor: It's lovely spending time with you and everybody here.
• 37:47
  Jamie: All right.
• 37:48
  Jamie: You guys have a wonderful weekend and we'll see you next time.
• 37:51
  Jamie: Thank you for making astrology a part of your life.