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Coronavirus Crimes: The Next Wave · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace is coming to Fox Nation. I Want Justice.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace premieres March ninth, only on
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Speaker 1: Fox Nation. A supermarket is forced to throw away thirty
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Speaker 1: five thousand dollars of fresh food at a time when
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Speaker 1: we need it so much. Coronavirus crimes the next wave
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Welcome I Nancy Grace. This
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Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. Thank you for joining us here on
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Speaker 1: Fox Nation in series one eleven. Take a listen to
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Speaker 1: our friend at USA Today, Jordan call Over. The coronavirus
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Speaker 1: is no joke, but not everyone is taking it seriously.
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Speaker 1: Fox News reports that in Pennsylvania, a woman entered Garrity's
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Speaker 1: supermarket and made her way to the produce aisle. The
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Speaker 1: store's co owner, Joe Fuzzula, said she then quote proceeded
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Speaker 1: to purposely cough all over the stores fresh food before
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Speaker 1: making her way to the bakery section, meat case and
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Speaker 1: other parts of the store doing the same. Fazula said
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Speaker 1: about the incident, well, there is little doubt this woman
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Speaker 1: was doing it as a very twisted prank. We will
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Speaker 1: not take any chances with the health and well being
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Speaker 1: of our customers, adding they had to purge the supermarket
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Speaker 1: of everything the woman coughed on, which he estimates to
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Speaker 1: be valued at around thirty five thousand dollars worth of goods.
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Speaker 1: Fazula says it's all precautionary, however, as he does not
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Speaker 1: believe the woman to be infected and has been problematic
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Speaker 1: for the Hanover Township community before the woman was identified,
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Speaker 1: and criminal charges will now be filed. She is currently
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Speaker 1: at a local hospital for a mental health evaluation. What
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Speaker 1: would possess someone to go into the grocery store and
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Speaker 1: purposefully cough on the produce that would be the veggie
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Speaker 1: in the fruits, the bakery section, and the meat section,
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Speaker 1: purposefully coughing all over them to suggest you are tainting
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Speaker 1: them with coronavirus. From that sort of prank to allowing
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Speaker 1: alleged murderers out of jail free to a tiny child
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Speaker 1: clinging to mommy's dead body for days on end after
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Speaker 1: mommy dies with coronavirus, the corona virus crimes go on,
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Speaker 1: joining me an all star panels. Stephen Lampley, detective, author
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Speaker 1: of Outside Your Door at Stephen Lampley dot com. Joseph
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Speaker 1: Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville, State University death investigator and
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Speaker 1: author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon. Ashley Wilcot,
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Speaker 1: judge and trial lawyer, Court TV anchor at Ashley Wilcott
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Speaker 1: dot com. Doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst joining us out of
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Speaker 1: Beverly Hills at Bethany Marshall dot com and first to
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Speaker 1: Levi Page Climb online dot com investigative reporter Levi. I
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Speaker 1: don't understand it. The supermarket has to throw away thirty
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Speaker 1: five thousand dollars a food. I mean, how long was
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Speaker 1: she in the grocery store. She made her way through produce,
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Speaker 1: then she got to the bakery section where people are
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Speaker 1: back there baking, and then she made her way to
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Speaker 1: the need. That was a long time to cough on
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Speaker 1: all that food. Yes, Nazi, And it was not an
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Speaker 1: accidental cough where you know you're trying to cover your amount.
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Speaker 1: That she purposely went over to those areas and started
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Speaker 1: coughing intentionally to try to scare people. And according to
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Speaker 1: law enforcement in Hanover Township, Pennsylvania, she's a nuisance there
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Speaker 1: who has done things like this in the past. It's
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Speaker 1: like someone with mental issues. A supermarket in Pennsylvania throws
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Speaker 1: away thirty five thousand dollars worth of food after a
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Speaker 1: woman deliberately coughed all over the food in a twisted
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Speaker 1: coronavirus prank. Now the grocery store is saying, well, I
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Speaker 1: don't think she has coronavirus. Well that's the problem. To
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Speaker 1: Joseph Scott Morgan joining me, death Investigator, you can't look
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Speaker 1: at somebody until they've got coronavirus. I mean, it's not
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Speaker 1: like measles, where you have red dots all over your face.
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Speaker 1: It's not like that at all. No, it requires diagnostic
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Speaker 1: observation and testing, Nancy. These people have to be observed.
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Speaker 1: And let me tell you something, she's under psychiatric observation.
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Speaker 1: Stop stop right there, because to doctor Bethany Marshall, I
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Speaker 1: appreciate everything you're saying, jo Scott Morgan, but let's go
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Speaker 1: to doctor Bethany Marshall. That's her, Billywick. If you have
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Speaker 1: the wherewithal to understand what's going on with coronavirus, and
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Speaker 1: you understand what a threat that is, and as a joke,
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Speaker 1: as a prank, if it is a prank, you go
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Speaker 1: in and cough all over everything, and the grocery store
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Speaker 1: to the point they have to throw up thirty five
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Speaker 1: grand that she knew what she was doing on mini levels,
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Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall. So don't come up to me and
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Speaker 1: tell me she has some mental illness. Save it for
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Speaker 1: a jury, Bethany Nancy. I found myself wishing I could
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Speaker 1: meet this person, interview her, see her, and do a
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Speaker 1: full assessment, because I had all kinds of thoughts about
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Speaker 1: why she might be a nuisance to society, why she
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Speaker 1: might go into a store cough over the produce and
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Speaker 1: the bakery. But my main thought was something read Malloya,
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Speaker 1: lead researcher about criminality, once wrote that most crimes are
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Speaker 1: motivated by envy, envy that other people have a good life,
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Speaker 1: whereas the criminal does not. And maybe she's standing outside
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Speaker 1: the store. She's looking in. People are happy, they're shopping,
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Speaker 1: they're trying to take care of their families, the stores
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Speaker 1: doing well. It's full of food, and the stores full
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Speaker 1: of food. But she's full of hate, full of envy,
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Speaker 1: feeling outside of society, and she goest in and she
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Speaker 1: just runs it for everybody. It's like the kid, you know,
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Speaker 1: smashing all the toys and walking out of the playroom
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Speaker 1: because he doesn't feel accepted by the other kids around him.
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Speaker 1: Although this is on a very primitive, malicious and pathological
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Speaker 1: level in Doctor Bethany in your practice there on Rodeo
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Speaker 1: Drive also known as rodeo envy. While it is certainly
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Speaker 1: one of the seven deadly sins, is not a defense
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Speaker 1: in the courtroom. Whether she's envious of other people who
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Speaker 1: were in there shopping with their families for whatever reason
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Speaker 1: she did this. Clearly she knew what she was doing.
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Speaker 1: And Ashley Wilcott, judge and trial lawyer, the reality is
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Speaker 1: if you know at the time of the incident that
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Speaker 1: what you're doing is wrong, you are not insane under
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Speaker 1: the law. And I'm referring to the old McNaughton test,
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Speaker 1: which was brought over to our country from the common
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Speaker 1: law in Great Britain. It's not statutory law, it's case law.
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Speaker 1: That's what that means, common law. The reality is if
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Speaker 1: she knew what she was doing was wrong, then she
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Speaker 1: was saying at the time of the incident. Ashley yes, no, yes,
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Speaker 1: completely agree. The good news is they are pressing charges
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Speaker 1: against people who are engaging in idiotic behaviors that amount
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Speaker 1: to a crime. Well, I want you to listen to this.
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Speaker 1: For those of you that think that mental defect or
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Speaker 1: envy is going to be some type of offense, take
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Speaker 1: a listen to the product's liquor Feister. Okay, this is
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Speaker 1: from kat t N News audio of Cody Feister, who
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Speaker 1: scattered coronavirus? Don't touch your mouth? Who scattered coronavirus? Don't
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Speaker 1: touch your mouth? Who scattered coronavirus? Don't touch your mouth?
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Speaker 1: Who scattered coronavirus? Don't touch your mouth? Who scattered coronavirus? Okay,
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Speaker 1: you can stop now I've heard it. Thank you so much,
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Speaker 1: Jackie for letting me hear that like ten times over.
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Speaker 1: Leavi Page. That's not the woman that was coughing over
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Speaker 1: the produce. And okay, by the way, everybody, you're now
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Speaker 1: to wash your produce. If you just rinsed it off
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Speaker 1: with water, don't do that. Squirt soap on there. Wash
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Speaker 1: it thoroughly, rents it, thoroughly, dry it thoroughly before you
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Speaker 1: eat it. Because the people just like the thirty five
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Speaker 1: grand theft. But who to you? Levi Page joining me
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Speaker 1: crime online dot Com investigator reporter, Who the hey is
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Speaker 1: Cody Feister. He's a twenty six year old Missouri man Nancy,
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Speaker 1: and he uploaded that video to Snapchat and he was saying,
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Speaker 1: who's scared of the coronavirus? And he started licking things
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Speaker 1: in Walmart like deodorant and toiletries. And he's now charged
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Speaker 1: with knowingly causing a passive relief our fear that a
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Speaker 1: condition involving danger to life existed. So he is now
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Speaker 1: in trouble. And he was caught, Nancy, because people saw
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Speaker 1: his snapchats and they started reporting him to law enforcement
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Speaker 1: and they identified him and arrested him. Okay, now wait
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Speaker 1: a minute, So what exactly did he do beside release
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Speaker 1: and in an video? What did he do? So he
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Speaker 1: was in Walmart and he was taking his tongued and
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Speaker 1: licking items like the odorant and toiletry. You know, these
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Speaker 1: are items that are becoming very rare, and here he
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Speaker 1: is licking them, dragging his tongue across them on Snapchat
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Speaker 1: for the attention, and he got the attention, all right
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Speaker 1: to Stephen Lampley, detective and author of Outside Your Door
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Speaker 1: Stephen Lampley dot com. Steven, you're the detective. But when
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Speaker 1: someone commits a crime like this, which is really a
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Speaker 1: terroristic threat, in my mind, when someone puts it on
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Speaker 1: video and releases it. That's a whole other level. What
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Speaker 1: does that mean to you when a criminal does something
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Speaker 1: like that? If this is to be considered a crime
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Speaker 1: that see it is, and he's creating it, He's not
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Speaker 1: only creating a hazard, he is creating a terrorist threat.
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Speaker 1: He is doing a terrorist act by the laws, I
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Speaker 1: understand it. And not only is he doing that, he's
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Speaker 1: creating an environment of KIM could be creating an environment
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Speaker 1: of panic among people who see this. And we already
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Speaker 1: have a very serious situation, not only getting across the world.
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Speaker 1: So you know, when you're doing something like that, you're
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Speaker 1: simply perpetuating this situation. We're at eighty five thousand cases
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Speaker 1: just in the United States, and I have somebody to
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Speaker 1: do that, whether he's infected or not, is simply ludicrous.
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Speaker 1: Time stories with Nancy Grace. For those of you just
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Speaker 1: joining us, Thank you for being with us here at
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Speaker 1: thoughts Nation and Serious XM one eleven coronavirus crimes the
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Speaker 1: next wave. There are so many coronavirus crimes we couldn't
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Speaker 1: fit them all into mentioning in just one hour. But
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Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen to a guy
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Speaker 1: named Justin Rhodes his own debut on video listen penually
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Speaker 1: testifiesive coronavirus. J William was asked to self consine for
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Speaker 1: poison days one days. I'm racing committed. But if I
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Speaker 1: got it, y'all gonna get a tool. Oh, y'all, that's
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Speaker 1: how I feel about it. I am positive. Well, there's
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Speaker 1: clearly no doubt as to the identity of the alleged perpetrator,
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Speaker 1: claiming quote, if I've got y'all gone get it too.
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Speaker 1: A man who claims to have coronavirus arrested after trapesing
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Speaker 1: up and down the aisles at a busy Walmart, videoing
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Speaker 1: himself on Facebook Live claiming to have COVID nineteen. You know,
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Speaker 1: it seems like it never ends out to you. Levi
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Speaker 1: Page Crime Online dot Com investigated reporter, what can you
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Speaker 1: tell me about this guy Justin Rhodes. So, Justin Rhodes
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Speaker 1: has been charged Nancy with perpetrating a hoax that is
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Speaker 1: a felony in a public building and disorderly conduct. And
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Speaker 1: he walked into that Walmart in Albemarle, North Carolina, and
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Speaker 1: he says I have tested positive for coronavirus. Which was
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Speaker 1: a lie. He had not and he said I was
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Speaker 1: told the self quarantine and he was broadcasting on Facebook
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Speaker 1: live and he says, if I got it, y'all gonna
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Speaker 1: get it. You know where did you tell me this
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Speaker 1: is in North Carolina? Is there a lockdown or quarantine
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Speaker 1: yet in North Carolina? LEVI? Do you know? It's a
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Speaker 1: state of emergency there? And this guy is walking up
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Speaker 1: and down the aisles of a busy walmart bragging that
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Speaker 1: he's got coronavirus. N straight out to you, Ashley Willcott,
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Speaker 1: judge and trial lawyer. This is a host a plethora
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Speaker 1: of crimes. It is. Now whether they're going to charge
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Speaker 1: him and go through with it, I don't know. They're
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Speaker 1: emptying out the jails right now to relieve the coronavirus
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Speaker 1: problems within the jail, so I don't know where they're
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Speaker 1: gonna put this guy. But this equals a felony of
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Speaker 1: terroristic threat. Terroristic threat it's when you threaten to kill
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Speaker 1: or harm someone and basically that there's evidence of it.
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Speaker 1: It's on a phone message, it's in an email, it's
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Speaker 1: in a text, or in this case, in a video.
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Speaker 1: What about it, Ashley, Well, first of all, criminals aren't smart.
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Speaker 1: So thankfully he did a video. There was a video
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Speaker 1: of it. Secondly, you know, thank goodness they're through in
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Speaker 1: the book at these people that they are actually charging
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Speaker 1: them with FELONIESE. He's charged with felonies, as you just
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Speaker 1: pointed out. So whether or not he stays in jail,
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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled that they are arresting and charging with these crimes.
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Speaker 1: I would hope a judge, because it's a threat regarding coronavirus,
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Speaker 1: would absolutely not let him out of jail simply because
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Speaker 1: of the pandemic. But here is the conundrum. They're letting
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Speaker 1: people out of jail because of coronavirus, So what are
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Speaker 1: they going to put him in jail and then let
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Speaker 1: him out? Here is a direct threat to all of
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Speaker 1: us and he's bragging about it on Facebook Live. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if the name Falcone, George Falcone, means anything
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Speaker 1: to you yet, but it will take a Listen to
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Speaker 1: our friends at Fox five Good Day New York speaking
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Speaker 1: of George Falcone. Listen. A man in New Jersey has
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Speaker 1: been charged with terroristic threat after prosecutors say that he
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Speaker 1: hoft on a food store employee. He was identified as
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Speaker 1: George Falcone, a freehold New Jersey's Attorney General, who says
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Speaker 1: the incident happened at a supermarket last Sunday when the
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Speaker 1: worker thought Falcone was standing just a little bit too
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Speaker 1: close to her and her food. According to the attorney General,
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Speaker 1: when the woman asked Falcone to step back, instead leaned
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Speaker 1: in and coughed and said he had the coronavirus. Valcolm
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Speaker 1: was also charged with obstruction and harassment. He was issued
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Speaker 1: a summons no word yet on a court day. This
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Speaker 1: is what I know. Americans who are purposely exposing and
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Speaker 1: infecting others with coronavirus can be charged as terrorists. I
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Speaker 1: a terroristic threats. What can you tell me about this guy?
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Speaker 1: Levi Nancy. He is a freehold New Jersey and he
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Speaker 1: was arguing with an employee at a Wegman's store and
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Speaker 1: he started coughing on her and telling her that he
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Speaker 1: had coronavirus. The police were called and he refused to
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Speaker 1: give police his name his driver's license. They identified him
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Speaker 1: as George Falcone and he was arrested and charged with
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Speaker 1: making a terroristic threat, harassment, and obstruction of justice. And
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Speaker 1: the obstruction of justice charge comes from when he was
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Speaker 1: refusing to cooperate with police and even tell him tell
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Speaker 1: them his name. He argued with them for forty minutes.
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Speaker 1: Do we know how old this guy is? Falcone? How
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Speaker 1: old is he? His age has not been released yet. Well,
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Speaker 1: I know he's old enough to know better. Take a
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Speaker 1: listen to the Governor Phil Murphy and a coronavirus press
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Speaker 1: update prove that there are both knuckleheads out there on
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Speaker 1: the one hand, and on the other hand, we see
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Speaker 1: them and we're enforcing behavior. Chargers are being brought against
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Speaker 1: a defendant who got into a dispute with an employee
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Speaker 1: of Wegman's, coughed on the woman, and told her after
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Speaker 1: doing so, that he had coronavirus. He then refused to
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Speaker 1: cooperate with the police to either give them his name
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Speaker 1: or his driver's license for more than forty minutes. A
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Speaker 1: summons is being issued for terroristic threats, harassment, and obstruction.
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Speaker 1: This is not an EO violation per se, but it
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Speaker 1: demonstrates active law enforcement in the steps that we are taking.
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Speaker 1: I want to give ma analop And Police Department a
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Speaker 1: shout out. In the Mammouth County Prosecutor's office a shout
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Speaker 1: out and as pat knows better than anybody, as Jarard
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Speaker 1: knows better than anybody. We are up and down the
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Speaker 1: state and we will not take any non compliant behavior.
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Speaker 1: You're hearing right there the attorney general in that state.
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Speaker 1: But now we learned that these coronavirus pranks, also known
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Speaker 1: as terroristic threats, no geographical boundaries. Now we turned to
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Speaker 1: Hollywood where a Thoor iron man, moneyball star trying to sell,
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Speaker 1: trying to hawk fake cures for coronavirus to over two
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Speaker 1: million people. He's right in there with Jim Baker. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen to our friends at ABC seven. This is
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Speaker 1: Mark Brown, the southern California man who claimed he created
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Speaker 1: a cure for the coronavirus, is in federal custody tonight,
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Speaker 1: accused of trying to scam people out of their money.
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Speaker 1: He got a million hits on Instagram, which proved to
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Speaker 1: be his undoing. This is Keith little Brook. Yes, I
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Speaker 1: created the cure that shuts down the COIV nineteen. On
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Speaker 1: his social media videos, Keith Middlebrook claimed he created the
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Speaker 1: cure for coronavirus over six weeks. Sells from a coronavirus
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Speaker 1: detached release and die within forty eight hours. This is
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Speaker 1: it right here? The preloaded injection. He also promised this
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Speaker 1: pill would make you immune to the virus. Just to
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Speaker 1: be clear, there is no cure, no vaccine, no drug
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Speaker 1: that stops coronavirus. The US attorney says this was a
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Speaker 1: scam aimed at extracting money from gullible people and injecting
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Speaker 1: it into Middlebrook's bank account. He was then soliciting investments
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Speaker 1: in his company and promising massive profits in return. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I appreciate the pond Mark Brown injecting it into his
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Speaker 1: bank account. I like it. Okay, even I have a
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Speaker 1: tiny sense of humor. Okay, Keith and Middlebrook. This guy
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Speaker 1: is a star. He's been in four Iron Man, Moneyball,
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Speaker 1: many others. This actor, fifty three years old, old enough
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Speaker 1: to know better, has over two million followers and had
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Speaker 1: reached at least one million of them to buy his
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Speaker 1: fake cure. Okay, now take a listen to once again,
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Speaker 1: ABC seven's Mark Brown. I've been studying cell tissue and
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Speaker 1: chemical biology for well over two decades. I'm beyond qualified.
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Speaker 1: I think OMNIMISSI the word is omniscient, which means all knowing.
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Speaker 1: Middlebrook clearly was not FBI undercover agents busted in for
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Speaker 1: allegedly trying to sell them the phony medicine. Now, the
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Speaker 1: fifty three year old with Holmes in Westwood, Newport Beach
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Speaker 1: and Murrietta is socially isolated in jail. He's charged with
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Speaker 1: one count of wire fraud. He could get twenty years
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Speaker 1: in prison. Hi, guys, Nancy Grace here, I have investigated
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we're talking about an
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Speaker 1: Scott Morgan, forensics professor Jacksonville State University, author Blood Beneath
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Speaker 1: My Feet on Amazon. What is it that he's claiming
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Speaker 1: is a coronavirus cure. He's claiming that he has some
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Speaker 1: kind of magic potion that literally you can take and
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Speaker 1: it will kill this virus. And no such virus, no
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Speaker 1: such cure actually exists, Nancy. This is a very robust virus,
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Speaker 1: And so the fact that some guy who obviously is
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Speaker 1: says six weeks and came up with cure for COVID nineteen,
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Speaker 1: he's saying, quote and I'm reading this directly from what
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Speaker 1: he's said to two over two million people, a patent
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Speaker 1: pending cure, a cheatment that prevents corona virus infection. He
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Speaker 1: claims that he now is immune from coronavirus. He's solicited
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Speaker 1: a three hundred thousand dollars investment. He also claims to
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Speaker 1: have cured a coronavirus patient by injecting the patient with
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Speaker 1: his medicine. So to you, oh dear, oh dear Jackie,
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Speaker 1: do you need to see this photo of him. He's
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Speaker 1: got on practically nothing and he is all bulked up
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Speaker 1: like he's been spending. If my husband came home like that,
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Speaker 1: I'd say, I would say, you're spending way too much
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Speaker 1: time in the gym. Get back to the office. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: that's a whole other can of worms. Do we have
23:39
Speaker 1: any idea Levi page from crime Online, what exactly is
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Speaker 1: in his quote injection? We have no idea within his injection, Nancy,
23:48
Speaker 1: but we do know that he, you know, was claiming
23:51
Speaker 1: that there were celebrities like Magic Johnson that he worked
23:54
Speaker 1: with and was at the on the board of directors
23:57
Speaker 1: of his company. Local News contact him and he denied it,
24:01
Speaker 1: knowing who Keith Middlebrook was. So this guy is a
24:05
Speaker 1: scammer through and through, and he was caught by the FBI.
24:09
Speaker 1: They actually were tipped off about what he was doing
24:12
Speaker 1: on social media, so they started messaging him and they said,
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Speaker 1: can you meet me. I'm going to give you money
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Speaker 1: and can you meet me in exchange for these pills?
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Speaker 1: And injectables, and he did, and he was caught by
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Speaker 1: an undercover FBI agent and now he's charged with wire
24:28
Speaker 1: fright and he faces twenty years behind bars. Let me
24:31
Speaker 1: go straight out to doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanas joining me
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Speaker 1: out of Beverly Hills at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com.
24:37
Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany, you try to hit me with the mentally
24:44
Speaker 1: ill because of envy defense, which I totally reject earlier.
24:49
Speaker 1: Now that may apply to some of your patients lying
24:52
Speaker 1: out there on your very expensive couch when they buy
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Speaker 1: a ninth daughter pair of boots but coughing and sneezing
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Speaker 1: on produce, licking things in the Walmart claiming you've got
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Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. This one may be the one that concerns
25:16
Speaker 1: me the most because I think of my grandmother, Lucy,
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Speaker 1: who I named my daughter after, who helped raise me,
25:24
Speaker 1: by the way, and she got to a point where well,
25:29
Speaker 1: she refused to dress up for church. That's what it was,
25:32
Speaker 1: which drove my mother over the edge. But she would
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Speaker 1: watch televangelists. Okay, my grandmother, all right, let's not judge.
25:43
Speaker 1: So Jim Baker is online selling his silver solution which
25:50
Speaker 1: is claudial silver to cure coronavirus. Now we've got this
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Speaker 1: guy who's been an actor in major movies hawking this
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Speaker 1: to about two point four million people. And let me
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Speaker 1: give you a quote, doctor Bethany, quote, I have developed
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Speaker 1: the cure for the coronavirus COVID nineteen LA. Patient tested
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Speaker 1: positive for coronavirus got up and walked out fifty one
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Speaker 1: hours after my injection. That is according to an official
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Speaker 1: affidavit that we've gotten our hands on. Help me, doctor Bethany,
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Speaker 1: What is your defense this time? What does he have
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Speaker 1: to be jealous of? Come on, I know you're in
26:30
Speaker 1: his head right now and you're rationalizing why he did this.
26:34
Speaker 1: Here's what I like to do. I like to take
26:35
Speaker 1: all these perpetrators and kind of analogize them to other
26:38
Speaker 1: crimes which are familiar because we're in such unfamiliar times
26:42
Speaker 1: with the coronavirus. So the guy who posts himself on
26:46
Speaker 1: snapchat kind of seems like the flasher. The guy who
26:50
Speaker 1: costs all over the woman in the grocery store seems
26:53
Speaker 1: like the updated version of road rage. This guy, like
26:58
Speaker 1: Jim Baker, is the updated version of the cult leader.
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Speaker 1: So he has two and a half million followers on Instagram.
27:05
Speaker 1: He's probably been grooming them for some time. He's been
27:09
Speaker 1: engaging in low level cons benefiting from them, grooming them,
27:14
Speaker 1: establishing relationships. And what he's done is he's playing on
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Speaker 1: their most primitive fears. So what's happening during this pandemic
27:22
Speaker 1: is the amiddala, the primitive part of the brain that
27:25
Speaker 1: ensured our survival as a species, is getting very activated
27:30
Speaker 1: and panicky, and in the face of the unknown, we
27:33
Speaker 1: read in our worst possible fears and fantasies. So he's
27:38
Speaker 1: tapping into that fear part, which is not really governed
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Speaker 1: by logic in any way. It is not logical that
27:46
Speaker 1: he has come up with a cure, right. I mean,
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Speaker 1: anybody who just reads the paper or has a basic
27:51
Speaker 1: knowledge of science knows that. But these frightened people are
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Speaker 1: engaging what we call magical thinking looking for a cure.
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Speaker 1: He is praying thinking, what do you mean by that?
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Speaker 1: What I mean by magical thinking is when this context, Oh,
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Speaker 1: in this context that they are so invested in believing
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Speaker 1: in him and in staying well and being a part
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Speaker 1: of this online group who probably looks up to him
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Speaker 1: and worships them, that their thought process bypasses logic. It's
28:27
Speaker 1: like wishful thinking, fantasy thinking. They want to invest. There's
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Speaker 1: a difference between the fantasy thinking and magical thinking. In
28:36
Speaker 1: this case. I'm stunned at someone with so many opportunities
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Speaker 1: taking advantage of people that don't know any better, praying
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Speaker 1: on them and what the reason I brought in my
28:48
Speaker 1: grandmother Lucy is because the elderly specifically are susceptible to coronavirus.
28:55
Speaker 1: We know that they are the ones watching infomercials light
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Speaker 1: with Jim Baker or falling for a cure like this
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Speaker 1: bit actor has tried to sell online. But that's not
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Speaker 1: the end of the next wave of coronavirus crimes. An
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Speaker 1: alleged killer has just been erased from Hamilton County jail
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Speaker 1: and the victims family the murder victims family is blaming
29:27
Speaker 1: the coronavirus response. Take a listen to our friends at
29:31
Speaker 1: WLWT News five. This is Jatarah McGee. This more than
29:38
Speaker 1: nine months after Margaret Williams lost her son Tony Williams.
29:42
Speaker 1: That pain is still fresh. Anything to happen back anything.
29:49
Speaker 1: The shooting was caught on surveillance video near Vice Mayor
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Speaker 1: Chris Smitherman's office in bon Hill. The alleged killer was
29:56
Speaker 1: caught days later. So it's devastating to know that D'Angelo
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Speaker 1: Stone is out walking the streets and my family is
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Speaker 1: still suffering, still crying, still trying to accept this now
30:10
Speaker 1: awaiting trial out of handcuffs. D'Angelo stones Friday release comes
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Speaker 1: as the Hamilton County Justice Center releases some non violent,
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Speaker 1: low level offenders to prevent the potential spread of COVID nineteen.
30:23
Speaker 1: Inside the jail, Stone is facing multiple felonies, including murder
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Speaker 1: and having weapons under disability. Can you imagine how that
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Speaker 1: mother feels. Margaret Williams, her Son's alleged murderer has walked
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Speaker 1: free because the jail fears the criminals may catch coronavirus.
31:02
Speaker 1: Clime stories with Nancy Grace Angelo was one. I've got
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Speaker 1: two other clients, both charge of Floony's assaulted. On paper,
31:15
Speaker 1: they would not be subject to the SHARE's review, but
31:18
Speaker 1: because of the facts of the case in the situation,
31:20
Speaker 1: in both cases, they are certainly good candidates to be released.
31:25
Speaker 1: Stone's defense attorney, Jay Clark, took advantage of the timing
31:28
Speaker 1: to fight for a lower bond. The prosecution objected, but
31:31
Speaker 1: a judge reduced stones million dollar bond to ten percent
31:35
Speaker 1: of one hundred thousand. I asked Clark of his client
31:37
Speaker 1: would still be in jail if it wasn't for the coronavirus.
31:42
Speaker 1: Don't answer your question is I don't know Williams didn't
31:45
Speaker 1: know Stone was getting out. I should have got a
31:48
Speaker 1: knock once a door, our phone call. Her seventy eight
31:53
Speaker 1: year old mother is waiting on results from a coronavirus test,
31:56
Speaker 1: so she understands the serious health threat, but also understand humanity.
32:01
Speaker 1: I understand justice. Now Clark says that his client is
32:05
Speaker 1: innocent and isn't a flight risk of the Williams. They disagree.
32:09
Speaker 1: Tony Williams would have been thirty eight this year and
32:12
Speaker 1: has three children, one as young as two. Our friend
32:15
Speaker 1: WLWT needs five reporter Jachara McGee reporting the attorney reportedly
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Speaker 1: taking advantage of the coronavirus scare to get an accused
32:26
Speaker 1: killer out from behind bars, and the victim's family didn't
32:32
Speaker 1: even know anything about it until it was too late.
32:36
Speaker 1: That's really the tip of the iceberg. But back to
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Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall, Psychoanen's joining us Oudt of Beverly Hills,
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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany, I remember I got off the air. I
32:46
Speaker 1: went up to my office. I was on Third Avenue
32:49
Speaker 1: at the corner of fortieth and Third at Court TV,
32:54
Speaker 1: and looked outside, fired up my computer, and I had
32:57
Speaker 1: a letter an email from Are to tell me my
33:01
Speaker 1: fiances murderer had gotten out of jail sometime before. I
33:06
Speaker 1: had no idea none. What do you make of the
33:12
Speaker 1: jail instead of enforcing measures to contain or quell coronavirus,
33:18
Speaker 1: letting everybody out alleged killers, doctor Bethany. But Nancy, it
33:25
Speaker 1: is a big problem. It's a big problem here in
33:27
Speaker 1: Los Angeles that the prison population is being infected with
33:34
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. It is true, the public deserves to know it,
33:37
Speaker 1: and it's such a complicated situation that it's kind of
33:41
Speaker 1: beyond my pay grade. But I think that what the
33:44
Speaker 1: jail should have done was warned the family. I think
33:47
Speaker 1: they should have used greater discrimination. There are so many
33:51
Speaker 1: people who cannot postpond they end up in the criminal
33:55
Speaker 1: system for low level offenses. And whereas Richard mail murder out.
34:00
Speaker 1: But in this case, Nancy, I agree with you. A
34:03
Speaker 1: murderer should not have been let out. These are very
34:07
Speaker 1: very unusual times. This family, whose son had gotten and
34:12
Speaker 1: father and husband was murdered, are already extremely traumatized. And
34:18
Speaker 1: I think attorneys need to use some discretion when advocating
34:23
Speaker 1: for their clients. I mean, obviously that this defense attorney
34:26
Speaker 1: is doing his job, but this one really slipped through
34:29
Speaker 1: the cracks and like the fighting computer, and I also
34:33
Speaker 1: don't know the answer, Ashley Wilcott, You know when I
34:37
Speaker 1: was trying cases for so long in inner city Atlanta,
34:41
Speaker 1: we would have bond calendars every day. I know the
34:45
Speaker 1: jails are overcrowded, they have been for a long time,
34:48
Speaker 1: and that is wrong. Low level criminals, sure, I think
34:52
Speaker 1: they should be out. I think they should not be
34:54
Speaker 1: using a bad in jail. But killers. I don't want
34:58
Speaker 1: to condemn anybody to coronavirusvirus, but I also don't want
35:02
Speaker 1: killers walking free. Well, I agree, coronavirus, in my opinion
35:07
Speaker 1: as a judge, should not be a reason for individuals
35:10
Speaker 1: who have been accused of multiple felonies, including like in
35:14
Speaker 1: this case, murder, to get out of jail. So I
35:17
Speaker 1: agree the low level non violent makes sense. That's a
35:20
Speaker 1: good smart way to approach the overcrowding and the coronavirus pandemic. Now,
35:25
Speaker 1: the problem is I don't think that that can extend,
35:28
Speaker 1: and it's up to the judge, but they really have
35:30
Speaker 1: to carefully weigh it shouldn't extend to somebody who has
35:33
Speaker 1: felony charges like murder in my opinion, because there's no
35:36
Speaker 1: reason because of the coronavirus that they should be allowed
35:40
Speaker 1: to get out of jail, first of all. Second of all,
35:44
Speaker 1: it's a uniform problem across the nation and lack of communication.
35:48
Speaker 1: I would suggest that that family absolutely should have been
35:51
Speaker 1: notified that was happening. Well, it's not just there, it's
35:55
Speaker 1: all across the country. Accused of felons are walking because
36:00
Speaker 1: we're afraid they'll get coronavirus behind bars. But then what
36:04
Speaker 1: if they get out and commit another crime, as recidivism
36:08
Speaker 1: rates show that they will, So we save the prisoner
36:12
Speaker 1: and then kill another innocent person. I don't know the answer,
36:16
Speaker 1: but I know this is wrong. Take a listen to
36:19
Speaker 1: our friends at w XIA eleven alive a noon and
36:25
Speaker 1: child alone for hours after healthcare worker mom dies of coronavirus.
36:30
Speaker 1: The very sad update the p my healthcare community is
36:33
Speaker 1: morning tonight. They tell us they the Kyleweeda County Corner
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Speaker 1: confirmed a mammogram technician has died as a result of
36:41
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. Let's learn more about her tonight. The Horner
36:45
Speaker 1: says forty two year old Deeju Wilkes died last Thursday
36:49
Speaker 1: and did not have any underlying health issues. Authorities say
36:53
Speaker 1: several public safety workers came in contact with the Wilkes
36:56
Speaker 1: and those workers are now self quarantine. Right out to
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Speaker 1: Levi page, Climb online dot Com investigat a reporter Levi,
37:04
Speaker 1: what happened so Nancy? This is extremely said at dedre Will.
37:08
Speaker 1: She's a forty two year old woman. She worked as
37:11
Speaker 1: a mammogram technician at Piedemont now In Hospital just outside
37:15
Speaker 1: of Atlanta, and she was discovered dead by law enforcement
37:19
Speaker 1: that was conducting a welfare check on her, and she
37:22
Speaker 1: tested positive for coronavirus actor. She had passed away. And
37:28
Speaker 1: the sad part is is that she was dead for
37:31
Speaker 1: twelve to sixteen hours, according to the Coetta County Coroner,
37:35
Speaker 1: Richard Hawk, and she and her four year old daughter
37:39
Speaker 1: was left alone with her during that time. The baby
37:42
Speaker 1: girl is now living with her father now that she
37:46
Speaker 1: had been dead for twelve to sixteen hours before law
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Speaker 1: enforcement located her and got her child out of the home.
37:54
Speaker 1: To Joseph Scott Morgan, forensics expert, give me the implications
38:00
Speaker 1: health implications of the child being there laying with a
38:04
Speaker 1: mom who has died alone of coronavirus with her childhood.
38:08
Speaker 1: Of course, what does that mean for the baby? Well,
38:11
Speaker 1: it means for the baby that the child probably at
38:14
Speaker 1: some point in time would have been touching her mother
38:17
Speaker 1: as she would have been in life. But during this
38:20
Speaker 1: period of time, the child's trying to raise the mother,
38:23
Speaker 1: get the mother to wake up, this sort of thing.
38:25
Speaker 1: For those of us that are parents, were aware of this,
38:28
Speaker 1: and she would have been probably attempting to hug her mother,
38:33
Speaker 1: and so these types of things that there was a
38:36
Speaker 1: recent report that came out that the coronavirus now has
38:40
Speaker 1: an indication that it still is very robust even after
38:44
Speaker 1: death in the dead. Wait, break that down for mean
38:49
Speaker 1: what you just said, Yeah, what this means is that
38:53
Speaker 1: the virus itself is not like some of the other
38:56
Speaker 1: viruses that we have encountered along the way over the years.
39:00
Speaker 1: The virus isn't doesn't just suddenly die after say three
39:05
Speaker 1: to four hours. It actually is very robust. It can
39:09
Speaker 1: survive outside of a living host on surfaces. Uh, certainly
39:14
Speaker 1: on the surface of the skin. And if the mother
39:17
Speaker 1: had been coughing, for instance, and she had kind of
39:20
Speaker 1: aspirate that was on her mouth, that was issuing from
39:23
Speaker 1: her nose, this sort of thing. If the child came
39:25
Speaker 1: into mean a liquid mucus, it could be a mucoid mucus,
39:32
Speaker 1: this sort of thing. And sometimes, unfortunately, Nancy, even after death,
39:36
Speaker 1: this will occur kind of a leaching out, if you will.
39:39
Speaker 1: If the child came into contact with that, this is
39:41
Speaker 1: very virulent. The child could in fact contract the virus.
39:45
Speaker 1: And I'd like to quickly point out be careful regarding
39:48
Speaker 1: your children that are on TikTok like mine are. A
39:51
Speaker 1: California influencer, Lars Now says he's in the hospital with
39:56
Speaker 1: coronavirus after a TikTok challenge, posting video of himself licking
40:04
Speaker 1: a toilet bowl. At a time when we're to be
40:08
Speaker 1: pulling together to fight coronavirus, instead some people are taking
40:13
Speaker 1: advantage of it. Coronavirus crimes. The next wave goes on
40:18
Speaker 1: and we wait for justice to unfold. Nancy Grace crime story,
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Speaker 1: signing off goodbye friend,