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The Mandalorian Chapter 12: The Siege · Aggressive Negotiations: A Star Wars Podcast

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Speaker 1: The Force will be with you always.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the net Palty.
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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Nick and Astas, you story editor on
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Speaker 1: Star Wars, The Clone Wars and Star Wars bad Batch,
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Speaker 3: Well, hello and welcome to Aggressive Negotiations. I am just
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Speaker 3: one of your hosts, Matthew Rushing, and I am so
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Speaker 3: excited to be back with none other than Jedi Master
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Speaker 3: John mills As. We're going to make a quick hold on,
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Speaker 3: hold on, excuse me, John, We're not going to make
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Speaker 3: it to our next stop, So I think we need
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Speaker 3: to stop on Navarro before we go any further, because
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Speaker 3: there is no way we are making it to our
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Speaker 3: destination to rendezvous with that Jedi.
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Speaker 2: Way to tease it out there, Matt because goodness knows,
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Speaker 2: I know, after our last adventure, I thought we were
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Speaker 2: going straight to seeing that Jedi. But Alas, we have
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Speaker 2: a stop off along the way that caught some of
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Speaker 2: us by surprise. But you know, did it delight Anybarty?
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Speaker 2: We'll find out as we discuss it here on Aggressive Negotiations.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got the siege we're going to be talking
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Speaker 3: about tonight. Like we said, we're stopping over there on Navarro,
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Speaker 3: we're going to catch up with Gita Carano and Carl
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Speaker 3: Weathers and see what's going there. But before we dive
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Speaker 3: slash the nerd Party. So, John, and I mean we
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Speaker 3: teased it obviously. I think the episode right before this,
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Speaker 3: the Airess, we felt like we were going to jump
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Speaker 3: right to meeting this jedi Ahsokatano. It was teased there.
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Speaker 3: And yet the Razorcrest, being only partially repaired, is just
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Speaker 3: not going to make it to corve Us, and so
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Speaker 3: they make a stop on the Varro and have a
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Speaker 3: very interesting adventure. And so kind of coming back to this,
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Speaker 3: how did you feel about how, you know, just this
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Speaker 3: episode works because everybody's looking forward to this possibility of
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Speaker 3: meeting Ahsoka, I think, and yet you know we delay
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Speaker 3: that for this episode, And so first, do you think
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Speaker 3: that it works to do that instead of just going
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Speaker 3: to the promise right away?
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Speaker 2: Well, I think that it winds up working. I think
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Speaker 2: this was a tremendous risk to take. Honestly, I think
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Speaker 2: that this could have gone sideways, and I think that
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Speaker 2: what happens spoilers for our final thoughts or whatever. I
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Speaker 2: think that what happens is that they take a big
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Speaker 2: gamble and it winds up paying off because the episode
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Speaker 2: itself is so good that you wind up forgiving the
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Speaker 2: fact that I won't lie. Like revisiting season two, it's
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Speaker 2: still the initial reaction is oh wait, I thought no, okay,
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Speaker 2: But then once the episode gets going, you're like, okay, cool,
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Speaker 2: all right, and you wind up digging it, and then
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Speaker 2: there's some tremendous action that happens in it, so you
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Speaker 2: wind up forgiving it. And I think that they, in
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Speaker 2: a sense, they luck out. This is like a football
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Speaker 2: team calling a play that starts off with like a
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Speaker 2: reverse and you're like, what are you doing? And then
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Speaker 2: the guy looks like he's about to get tackled ten
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Speaker 2: yards in the backfield, and you're like, oh, come on,
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Speaker 2: and then they turn it into a first down, and
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Speaker 2: you're like, well, yeah, that was a brilliant play. That's
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Speaker 2: my impression of this episode.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that the interesting part about
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Speaker 3: this episode is that not only do I think that
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Speaker 3: it turns into a first down, I think this episode
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Speaker 3: actually turns into a touchdown because of the way in
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Speaker 3: which they made sure that if you don't have this episode,
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Speaker 3: you're missing key pieces of information that play importantly into
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Speaker 3: the overall hole of this series. You know, the first
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Speaker 3: three seasons, in a lot of ways, are all playing
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Speaker 3: on you know, what is this child? You know, and
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Speaker 3: what was the of the Empire trying to do with
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Speaker 3: this child? And how does that play in maybe to
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Speaker 3: the larger hole of the you know, Star Wars Galaxy
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Speaker 3: in general, and this episode, I think rightly, if you
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Speaker 3: are going to keep us from going to Ahsoka right away,
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Speaker 3: this episode had to do those type of things, like
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Speaker 3: you said, so it's you come away from it feeling
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Speaker 3: like it's a win instead of, oh well that was
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Speaker 3: just a waste of time, you know. And I think
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Speaker 3: it's interesting because as we tell these kind of serialized
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Speaker 3: stories these days and television, not all shows have kind
5:47
Speaker 3: of figured out how to do this. Well, you know
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Speaker 3: the Mandalorian from at this point, from season one and
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Speaker 3: now into season two, there are episodes that are connected,
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Speaker 3: but you can pop in and watch each episode for
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Speaker 3: its own story. Yeah right, And again that's a tricky
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Speaker 3: line to walk because you want every episode to have
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Speaker 3: a story in and of itself, but then you also
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Speaker 3: need it to connect to the whole. And I think
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Speaker 3: this was the episode where here in season two, this
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Speaker 3: one had to feel like there was going to be
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Speaker 3: some overarching importance to it or you were just going
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Speaker 3: to be very frustrated as a viewer.
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Speaker 2: Now, speaking of frustrated, I want to go ahead and
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Speaker 2: I want to I love using this phrase. I picked
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Speaker 2: it up along the way from a speech Robert Downey
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Speaker 2: Junior gave that he took from Mel Gibson. I think
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Speaker 2: where let's hug the cactus here? Okay, And by that
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Speaker 2: I mean I have to ask, did you see the
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Speaker 2: infamous half a crew member in the background the first
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Speaker 2: time you watched this episode or did you miss it?
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Speaker 3: Because I think I totally missed it.
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Speaker 2: Okay, good because I was gonna come clean, because I
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Speaker 2: was gonna be like until people started talking about it online.
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Speaker 2: I was like, what the hell are you talking about?
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Speaker 2: And then everybody's like, yo, look look at this picture.
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Speaker 2: Look at this picture. But then like, of course they've
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Speaker 2: gone and digitally changed it. Now. Don't you think that
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Speaker 2: that's a testament to how good the episode is, that
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Speaker 2: the action is good enough in that scene that most
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Speaker 2: people didn't notice that crew member, that half a crew
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Speaker 2: member in the background, Like I just I think it
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Speaker 2: winds up being a weird compliment to how the show
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Speaker 2: comes together. Because my eye was where it was supposed
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Speaker 2: to be, which was on the action, not scrutinizing the background.
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Speaker 2: So I think two things are at play. One I
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Speaker 2: was engrossed with the action, and two I guess my
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Speaker 2: television at the time wasn't good enough to catch that,
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Speaker 2: or like it wasn't I enough resolution or something. But
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Speaker 2: it's just it's so wild how that became really the
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Speaker 2: thing that this episode is known for. Do you think
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Speaker 2: that that's detracted at all from people's estimation of it?
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Speaker 2: Do you think that people have lost Do you think
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Speaker 2: people have lost the episode overall because this viral moment
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Speaker 2: caught on?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that that's an interesting question,
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Speaker 3: And I would say, you know, at least for me personally,
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Speaker 3: going back, you're watching the episode so we could talk
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Speaker 3: about it this evening. I don't even think about that, honestly,
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Speaker 3: Like I kind of forgot that that happened until you
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Speaker 3: actually brought it up to talk about because to me,
8:38
Speaker 3: you know, this episode is one of those where I'm
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Speaker 3: so much enjoying all the little world building applications to
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Speaker 3: this episode, where it's you know, Navarro has become a
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Speaker 3: place where people actually want to live. You know, it
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Speaker 3: gives us a taste of what life is like in
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Speaker 3: the galaxy, you know, for people like kids at school,
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Speaker 3: and like they're all these just little moments that I
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Speaker 3: think give us just a hint as to what life
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Speaker 3: looks like outside the control of the Empire. And why
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Speaker 3: then this episode where you see the threat of the
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Speaker 3: Empire and its presence here on Navarro that it could
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Speaker 3: ruin you know, kind of this. It's not utopia, but
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Speaker 3: it's just everyday life of the human beings being and
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Speaker 3: the different species from around the galaxy. You choose to
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Speaker 3: make this home or even a place just to stop by.
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Speaker 3: I think to me, there's just so much to love
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Speaker 3: about this episode and it doesn't even have to do
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Speaker 3: with the major implications that we get for the larger
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Speaker 3: series as a whole. I just really enjoyed actually being
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Speaker 3: able to experience that even again, uh here with these characters.
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Speaker 3: And and two what I thought was great is that
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Speaker 3: this was a place where, you know, Star Wars has
10:07
Speaker 3: always been really good at This is where you pick
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Speaker 3: up characters later on and you could tell a bunch
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Speaker 3: of backstories happened, but they don't give you all the details, right,
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Speaker 3: And so Grief Karga and cardoone here have spent you know,
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Speaker 3: a certain amount of time where we don't quite have
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Speaker 3: the amount of time because Star Wars is also good
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Speaker 3: at fudging time, right, And they've cleaned up this town
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Speaker 3: and they've made this town a place that people want
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Speaker 3: to be, uh And I love that because again, it's
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Speaker 3: so quintessentially Star Wars. Clone Wars would do it. You know,
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Speaker 3: all the animated shows have done this in some way.
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Speaker 3: The movies did it right. You know, we meet Anakin
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Speaker 3: ten years later and you know he's he's now on
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Speaker 3: the cusp of possibly being a Jedi knight, you know,
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Speaker 3: and then this big war starts. That The way that
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Speaker 3: this episode plays into all those aspect of Star Wars,
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Speaker 3: I just think is really rich and really smartly done.
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Speaker 3: And is this probably everybody's favorite episode of the Mandalornian No,
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Speaker 3: But I think it's all of those moments to which
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Speaker 3: make this an enjoyable episode on top of all of
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Speaker 3: the other stuff that really matters for the series as
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Speaker 3: a whole.
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Speaker 2: Well, speaking of series and continuity and story bits and
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Speaker 2: everything like that, what did you think of the hint
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Speaker 2: of Snoke's theme as they saw a cloning chamber? Did
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Speaker 2: you take that in the moment as Oh my gosh,
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Speaker 2: they're trying to build the Snoke storyline into this, or
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Speaker 2: did you take it as something completely different?
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Speaker 3: So I just you know, this is one of those
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Speaker 3: places where I thought to myself, Oh, I think what
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Speaker 3: they're they're telling us in this moment is that the
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Speaker 3: technology of cloning is still something that people are playing
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Speaker 3: with for nefarious purposes. And you know, by this point,
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Speaker 3: you know, we have gotten episode nine. Yeah, and so
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Speaker 3: I think that's the thing that was actually kind of
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Speaker 3: interesting to me is that they're subtly, and I do
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Speaker 3: mean it's subtle, right, that they're setting up this idea
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Speaker 3: of cloning technology to clone people who have high medicalryan counts,
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Speaker 3: and that is really interesting, really fascinating. You know, I
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Speaker 3: just re listened to every single one of the original
12:37
Speaker 3: Throng trilogy books in audiobook format. Fantastic job, Mark Thompson.
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Speaker 3: It was really great to go by he is.
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Speaker 2: He is so freaking good.
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Speaker 3: It's talented man, so talented. But re listening to those stories, right, obviously,
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Speaker 3: cloning has such a big part of that story, as
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Speaker 3: does cloning Jedi, right and those that are powerful in
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Speaker 3: the Force, and you know, Zon even then was coming
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Speaker 3: up with things that made that incredibly difficult to get
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Speaker 3: right and and for it to work. And so the
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Speaker 3: idea here then that they're playing with you know, what
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Speaker 3: would it be like to try and you know, clone
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Speaker 3: people with force powers or possibly pass on force powers
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Speaker 3: to somebody who didn't have it. You know, all of
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Speaker 3: that isn't it. I mean that is just absolute great
13:34
Speaker 3: fodder for Star Wars in general. And the fact that
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Speaker 3: it had any kind of connection to what the sequel
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Speaker 3: trilogy had done was also just like it just felt
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Speaker 3: like a night's touch where it was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
13:46
Speaker 3: we know that that might not have been your you know,
13:49
Speaker 3: your favorite bag in Star Wars, but we're gonna do
13:52
Speaker 3: what we can to ameliorate it and try and make
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Speaker 3: it make more sense. Well.
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Speaker 2: I just love the fact that when you look at
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Speaker 2: this episode in that little hint and all the cloning
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Speaker 2: stuff that's being dropped here, the when you work it
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Speaker 2: in with say The bad Batch, which we both agree
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Speaker 2: is just top tier Star Wars. Yes, Like what happens
14:14
Speaker 2: to KMin OANs really plays into this because if you're
14:20
Speaker 2: a casual and you haven't watched The bad Batch, no
14:23
Speaker 2: matter how much your husband might have said no, no, no,
14:25
Speaker 2: you gotta watch it, you gotta watch it, but you're
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Speaker 2: maybe just whatever, Man, I keep fighting for the battle.
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Speaker 2: I don't always win anyway.
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Speaker 3: You gotta fight the good fight, man, you gotta fight
14:36
Speaker 3: the good fight.
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Speaker 2: But there's enough in this episode for the casuals to say, oh, cloning,
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Speaker 2: for the next tier to say, oh, cloning, and that
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Speaker 2: looks like it might lead to snoke and then for
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Speaker 2: you know, it's like that that meme with the brain,
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Speaker 2: different parts of the brain activating, and then like the
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Speaker 2: last panel is like, oh my gosh, this ties into
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Speaker 2: the camin OANs getting wiped out and nobody's left who
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Speaker 2: could do this type of and that's why they're so
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Speaker 2: far behind and they're trying to get things done and
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Speaker 2: it's not going quite right because you know, I contextualize
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Speaker 2: it within all of those story points, and I'm like, man,
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Speaker 2: how different does maf Gideon and the Imperial Remnant move
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Speaker 2: if what happened to the canon, like if the Cameon
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Speaker 2: Owens getting wiped out doesn't happen because with the camon
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Speaker 2: Owens have just gone along with it and been like
15:26
Speaker 2: you remember, because remember what Dexter jetter says. He says,
15:28
Speaker 2: you know, basically, so long as you can pay, you
15:31
Speaker 2: know how big your pocketbook is. Yeah, So you know,
15:35
Speaker 2: what do you think about the inversion though, of the
15:38
Speaker 2: Outer Rim? Is this lawless place and it's not really
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Speaker 2: an inversion, but like previously, the Outer Rim in the
15:46
Speaker 2: original trilogy was where you went to escape the Empire,
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Speaker 2: and now the Empire is going to the Outer Rim
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Speaker 2: to escape the Republic. So do you think that there's
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Speaker 2: like sort of a rhyming there of whoever the outlaw is,
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Speaker 2: the Outer Rim is all going to be where they are,
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Speaker 2: no matter who's in power.
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Speaker 3: I think that completely makes sense. Look, you even think
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Speaker 3: of our own history here in America, as industrialization and
16:10
Speaker 3: cities became bigger and bigger in the East, the push
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Speaker 3: was to go west, and the West was a place
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Speaker 3: that was kind of known for it being lawless. You know,
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Speaker 3: there wasn't anybody there to tell you what to do.
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Speaker 3: And so I think that applies here even to then,
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Speaker 3: that logic and that understanding of history. Yes, as civilization
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Speaker 3: grows in a certain part of the world, the lawless
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Speaker 3: and those who are looking to kind of be able
16:39
Speaker 3: to do their own thing without anybody looking over their
16:41
Speaker 3: shoulder is always going to get pushed to the fringes.
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Speaker 3: And you know, I think that is really really interesting
16:51
Speaker 3: and it makes a lot of sense. And so for
16:54
Speaker 3: that to be the case, then here in the Mandalorian
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Speaker 3: and in time of the New Republic, you get it.
17:03
Speaker 3: Get the because the goal of the New Republic, and
17:05
Speaker 3: we've kind of seen it a little bit already in
17:07
Speaker 3: the season, right with the X Wing pilots that we've
17:10
Speaker 3: already met. They're trying to keep the peace and they're
17:15
Speaker 3: trying to uphold the law in this area where they're
17:19
Speaker 3: covering way too much ground. They don't have enough people
17:21
Speaker 3: to do it, and it's incredibly difficult. And so yeah,
17:26
Speaker 3: I love that that that's the case here, and I
17:30
Speaker 3: think that just makes the storyline really interesting. But also
17:37
Speaker 3: I think what it does is it really helps us
17:39
Speaker 3: understand you know, like the character of Grief Cargo, right,
17:43
Speaker 3: he wants this to be a place that people want
17:48
Speaker 3: to come to, that can become a major trading center,
17:52
Speaker 3: that that can open up this part of the galaxy
17:55
Speaker 3: because it's known for its law and order, which I
18:00
Speaker 3: think is incredibly interesting. And again, what it's doing is
18:06
Speaker 3: that same thing, right, that the EU did back in
18:10
Speaker 3: the day. It's helping us to understand what does it
18:14
Speaker 3: look like to put the galaxy back together after it's
18:18
Speaker 3: been controlled by an empire. And you know, if you
18:22
Speaker 3: read those books, not all the books were galaxy spanning
18:26
Speaker 3: and involved everyone, you know, going to die if we don't,
18:30
Speaker 3: you know, get this right. And so the Mandalorian in
18:35
Speaker 3: that sense is one of those stories. And we've already
18:37
Speaker 3: seen it so far where it's like we're slowly creeping
18:41
Speaker 3: into more and more relevance to the larger portion of
18:44
Speaker 3: the galaxy, but we're we're going to take our time
18:46
Speaker 3: getting there. They're not rushing it, you know. Yeah, And
18:49
Speaker 3: I think that's the thing that's making this you know,
18:53
Speaker 3: it sets the foundation for the show to really be
18:58
Speaker 3: its own thing before it kind of branches out into
19:02
Speaker 3: the larger galaxy, you know, to be able to step
19:05
Speaker 3: out into that much larger world.
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Speaker 2: So much larger world, much larger action set piece. I
19:13
Speaker 2: think in this one that I mean the Airists. We
19:16
Speaker 2: have a huge action set piece, right. We have the
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Speaker 2: Gazantie cruiser, we have the storming of it, we have
19:23
Speaker 2: the flight sequence, we have the swooping down, very large
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Speaker 2: and expansive, And then this episode we have another large
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Speaker 2: and expansive action sequence, not just with storming the Imperial
19:39
Speaker 2: the hidden Imperial base, but also the chase through the
19:42
Speaker 2: canyon on the troop carrier that anybody old enough remembers
19:47
Speaker 2: the toy that inspired it and how we all wanted
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Speaker 2: it and we were jealous of all of our friends
19:51
Speaker 2: who had it and we didn't, because life is unfair kids,
19:55
Speaker 2: just so you know. So, do you think that the
19:59
Speaker 2: action takes it up another notch here? Like, is this
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Speaker 2: like an action sequence that you could rewatch over and over?
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Speaker 2: Is this one that you thought was good enough, this
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Speaker 2: chase sequence, or do you think this is you know,
20:11
Speaker 2: one of the one of the greats that they put
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Speaker 2: together here.
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Speaker 3: I think the fun of this is that it creates
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Speaker 3: that sense of the chase sequences we've seen in all
20:27
Speaker 3: of the original Trilogies movies, you know, where you're on
20:31
Speaker 3: some sort of speeder bike, or you're going through an
20:34
Speaker 3: asteroid field, or you're in a death Star trench. You know,
20:37
Speaker 3: this is kind of combining all of those elements, right.
20:41
Speaker 3: It's a better version of the speeder chase that you
20:45
Speaker 3: get in the Rise of Skywalker. You know, they fly now,
20:51
Speaker 3: they fly now, they fly now, Yes, we know, and
20:56
Speaker 3: so yeah, I think this is great. And the facts that,
21:00
Speaker 3: of course that they play with the toy that we
21:03
Speaker 3: all loved, you know. I mean, I think I think
21:07
Speaker 3: that's one of the things that made the Mandalorian resonate
21:11
Speaker 3: with fans is that it felt like people who loved
21:17
Speaker 3: Star Wars making Star Wars the same way we did
21:23
Speaker 3: as kids with the toys on the floor in our bedroom,
21:28
Speaker 3: and and they're just getting to do it on a larger,
21:33
Speaker 3: richer scale. And I think that's what makes like a
21:38
Speaker 3: chase sequence like this so fun, because if you had
21:41
Speaker 3: that troop carrier and you had a tie Fighter, you know,
21:45
Speaker 3: and you had like your Luke Skywalker character and your
21:49
Speaker 3: Han Solo character, you know, you probably got them in
21:52
Speaker 3: the troop carrier that they stole and they're trying to
21:54
Speaker 3: get away from the speeder bike Imperial and a tie
21:59
Speaker 3: Fighter come in, and like you're doing all that stuff,
22:02
Speaker 3: and that's that's the fun and kind of joy. And
22:06
Speaker 3: I think that's what makes the Mandalorian just feel so alive,
22:11
Speaker 3: because I also feel like there's that sense of you know,
22:13
Speaker 3: the animated shows did that too, where it's like, we're
22:17
Speaker 3: gonna throw the craziest wild thing at you in this
22:20
Speaker 3: show man, and it's something you've always wanted to see
22:24
Speaker 3: in Star Wars, but we're doing it. We're doing it,
22:27
Speaker 3: and they do that in this episode and I think
22:30
Speaker 3: it works fantastically and a big part of that has
22:33
Speaker 3: to do with Carl Weather's being in the episode. Carl
22:36
Speaker 3: Weathers directed this episode. It's great direction. You get Cara
22:40
Speaker 3: Doune back, and Gina Crano is really growing into the
22:43
Speaker 3: role here, and those characters with Mando, and because of
22:48
Speaker 3: their history together, it was really fun to have them
22:51
Speaker 3: all together again in this episode. And I think that's
22:54
Speaker 3: one of the things that, along with the revelations we get,
22:58
Speaker 3: it reminds you of all all the fun you had
23:00
Speaker 3: in the first season and it builds off of that
23:03
Speaker 3: with these characters by allowing you to see how far
23:05
Speaker 3: they've come now. And if you ask me, I feel
23:09
Speaker 3: like that's good writing.
23:12
Speaker 2: It is so I mean, I think we agree high
23:15
Speaker 2: marks across the board for this, and but by the
23:19
Speaker 2: end of it, we're stoked. We're like, Okay, come on,
23:22
Speaker 2: I want to see the Jedi now. I want to
23:24
Speaker 2: see a sooka, which I think now is a good
23:28
Speaker 2: time for us to wrap up, because we got to
23:31
Speaker 2: get there. We got to get there, and I have
23:35
Speaker 2: so many questions as well, especially because as we're going
23:39
Speaker 2: into the next week thinking about it in terms of
23:43
Speaker 2: the fact that there were casuals watching who had no idea.
23:47
Speaker 2: Who Ahsoka Tano is yeah, and it's like, what a
23:53
Speaker 2: what an incredible setup and universe linker and expander that's
23:59
Speaker 2: on the way, So so on our way there, Matt,
24:01
Speaker 2: where can people find you out there in the wilds
24:04
Speaker 2: of the internet.
24:06
Speaker 3: Well, goodness, yeah, go back and watch this episode. Just
24:09
Speaker 3: do yourself a favor and feel the joy. You're not
24:13
Speaker 3: going to be sorry, But you can find me all
24:15
Speaker 3: over social media and then the Matt rashings there two.
24:17
Speaker 3: Of course, here in the network, we've got a show
24:19
Speaker 3: called owl Posts talking about every single chapter of the
24:22
Speaker 3: Harry Potter series, one chapter time. You can also find
24:25
Speaker 3: me on the TFM network doing a bunch of shows
24:27
Speaker 3: talking about Star Trek with my good friend Chris Jones.
24:29
Speaker 2: And then I'm.
24:30
Speaker 3: Also doing the six oh two Club as we talk
24:32
Speaker 3: about all of those franchises outside of Star Trek that
24:35
Speaker 3: we love John Mills is a frequent guest over there
24:38
Speaker 3: as well as others. And yeah, we you know, we
24:40
Speaker 3: mentioned the Throng books and John, we talked about all
24:42
Speaker 3: three of those years back we did before The Force
24:45
Speaker 3: Awakens came out to get Ready. So if you want
24:48
Speaker 3: to check out our conversations there, you can do that.
24:50
Speaker 3: But John, you know, if people want to, you know,
24:53
Speaker 3: see what your recipe is for those baby Yoda macaroons.
24:57
Speaker 3: Where can people find you?
24:59
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, just do not eat them when you
25:01
Speaker 2: have when you're gonna be going on a flight, especially
25:04
Speaker 2: when with turbulence. I wouldn't recommend. It will mess up
25:07
Speaker 2: your your cloak. So you can find me out there
25:10
Speaker 2: peddling that recipe as Castle Junkie on your social network
25:14
Speaker 2: of choice. I love my time on Letterbox because I
25:18
Speaker 2: love watching movies and I love logging them. So let's
25:21
Speaker 2: go meet on a social media network where people don't
25:24
Speaker 2: fight about anything. Really, it's a pretty magnificent place. But
25:29
Speaker 2: you can also find me here on the network, co
25:31
Speaker 2: hosting with Darren Moser and Tristan Riddell House Lights, a
25:36
Speaker 2: movie director podcast. We have a lot of fun with
25:40
Speaker 2: it and we challenge each other to see movies we've
25:42
Speaker 2: never seen before, and it's a lot of fun. So
25:45
Speaker 2: with all of that said, I actually have an idea
25:48
Speaker 2: for a new ingredient in the baby blue macaroons. I mean,
25:53
Speaker 2: you know, honestly, I mean, wouldn't you say they're more
25:56
Speaker 2: of an aquamarine or a teal, this sort of color,
25:59
Speaker 2: you know, that sort of thing. Maybe maybe I might
26:03
Speaker 2: want to remove the artificial coloring that might be part
26:06
Speaker 2: of the issue with what happened with the cloak. But
26:08
Speaker 2: I think it's time to close these negotiations.
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Speaker 3: John, negotiations are closed. Join the Revolution, Join the Nerd Party.