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PGA DFS | Genesis Invitational | February 11, 2025 | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: The system's going clear your lift up? What's up? Everyone?
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tamberline here aka TOTEG and Tambo back for another
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  Speaker 1: edition of our PGA DFS show. Here on a Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: We've got the Genesis Invitational at Tory Pines playing the
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  Speaker 1: self course. Got my guy hoops to here with me.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna break it all down as usual, go through
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  Speaker 1: some roster construction, some ownership thoughts. Last week Scottie Big Boy,
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: biggest ownership of all time, sixty percent, So some crazy
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  Speaker 1: stuff there. Scooters in the chat. We did put zeal
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  Speaker 1: on the graphic. It's not that he looks kind of old.
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  Speaker 1: We used an old graphic because we're looking for the
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  Speaker 1: xalatoris of old. We're looking for a good xalatorus this
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  Speaker 1: week based on the course of fit rankings and the
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  Speaker 1: other stuff over at ship in Nation Hoopster. What's going
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  Speaker 1: on man? Last week? Fun fun week, good good week,
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  Speaker 1: but not, you know, not the ownership. I think everybody
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  Speaker 1: was expecting on Scotty when it got up to sixty percent.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you kind of called it because we did the
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  Speaker 2: show last week same time and a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: initial projections looked in the thirty range and you're like, naw,
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  Speaker 2: fuck that, Like we're not buying that shit, Like it's
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  Speaker 2: going away higher and it went to sixty. No one
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  Speaker 2: expected it. But I think it's part of like a
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  Speaker 2: more a bigger picture, you know, talking point that we
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  Speaker 2: can kind of hit on for sure, is these non
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  Speaker 2: signature events, right, whatever guys are playing in them will
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  Speaker 2: just get ownership because really it's a it's a mix
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  Speaker 2: of a corn Ferry tour event, a bunch of mid
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  Speaker 2: range PGA guys, and then you're gonna get a couple
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  Speaker 2: high end guys, and those couple high end guys are
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  Speaker 2: just going to get big time ownership. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 2: just the way it's gonna shake out. And that's what
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  Speaker 2: we saw last week. I Mean there were some names,
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  Speaker 2: there's no doubt about it, but like it really was
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  Speaker 2: a lot of no namers in the event, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of corn Fair tour guys. So you saw the ownership
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  Speaker 2: go way up for guys at the top of the board.
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  Speaker 2: And it's just so funny how just a matter of
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  Speaker 2: like a few holes changed the whole dynamic of the week.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, for me personally, I ended up going one
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  Speaker 2: hundred percent. Scotty it kind of talked about it on
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  Speaker 2: the show. I went one hundred percent with the back
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  Speaker 2: nine to go. That was looking pretty good. Scotty charging
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  Speaker 2: up the leader board. You know, I had a D
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  Speaker 2: three Scotti team, it was D Tree, Scotty had someone
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  Speaker 2: else way up there. It was looking pretty good. All
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  Speaker 2: those Scotty teams, we were looking pretty good. And then
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  Speaker 2: he missed that four footer and then I think he
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  Speaker 2: made a bogie and he kind of packed it in
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  Speaker 2: and then, uh, Justin Thomas holds out for forre Eagle
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  Speaker 2: on the eighteenth, then he's to spend that you need
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  Speaker 2: on the week, And it's just just crazy. I was
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  Speaker 2: just a few holes makes the whole difference of a week.
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  Speaker 2: If Scotty continues to charge, JT does not hold out
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  Speaker 2: for Eagle, like the Scotti all in play looks really good.
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  Speaker 2: But you know that's just it's just the nature and
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  Speaker 2: the volatility of PGA dfs. But I do think what
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  Speaker 2: happened on that back nine last week we'll have some
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  Speaker 2: effect on ownership and roster construction this week which we
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  Speaker 2: can apply to it. And you know, it's always the
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  Speaker 2: goal of the show. I mean, we don't want to
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  Speaker 2: be just picks and plays and we like this guy,
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  Speaker 2: don't like that guy. We want to talk about the
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  Speaker 2: overall picture, the bigger picture, roster construction, game theory stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So you know that's always going to be the goal
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  Speaker 2: of this show moving forward, kind of getting away from
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  Speaker 2: the picks and play stuff and just talking through roster
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  Speaker 2: construction strategy. And I think the Scotti stuff this week
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  Speaker 2: is pretty interesting talking point because it is a sedentry event.
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  Speaker 2: We do have a lot of the big boy names,
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  Speaker 2: and it's one of those situations where you look at
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  Speaker 2: it and there's some guys that are at like all
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  Speaker 2: time low prices, and I think that's another interesting talking point.
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  Speaker 2: So I know a lot of people want to shit
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  Speaker 2: on these signature events in terms of being no cut,
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  Speaker 2: and this isn't a no It's kind of like a
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  Speaker 2: no cup. We'll talk about it, but man like, this
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  Speaker 2: is our only chance to get very solid fields outside
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  Speaker 2: of the majors. All these non signature events are going
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  Speaker 2: to be weaker field stuff with a couple guys that
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  Speaker 2: we saw last week. At least we know ownership has
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  Speaker 2: a chance to get spread out because there's so many options.
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  Speaker 2: So No, I rambled on a lot there and you
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  Speaker 2: can parse through and talk about whatever. But yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 2: looking forward to this week and the prizes is always big.
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  Speaker 2: I mean the big prize pools on DraftKings. This week
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  Speaker 2: FanDuel kind of giving up a little bit on their
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  Speaker 2: PGA product, but on DraftKings, big, big prize pools.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you said a lot of good things there that
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  Speaker 1: I want to touch on actually, so maybe bring this up.
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  Speaker 1: First off, I know there's a lot of confusion out there.
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  Speaker 1: People were wondering different shows were saying different things. It
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  Speaker 1: cannot be more clear. You can go to PGA tour
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  Speaker 1: dot com, Slash Signature Dash Events to find all this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: It'll tell you everything you need to know about these
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  Speaker 1: signature events. But the main part you're looking at right
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  Speaker 1: here is the three player hosted signature events, the Genesis Imitational,
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  Speaker 1: thirty six hole cut to the top fifty and ties
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  Speaker 1: plus any player within ten shots of the lead. So again,
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  Speaker 1: much smaller field that can mean a ton of people
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  Speaker 1: making it through. We saw this last year Hoop. There
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  Speaker 1: was events where everyone said it's all it's basically a
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  Speaker 1: no cut and like everybody missed. It was all the
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  Speaker 1: job missed, and it was a bad, bad week for some.
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  Speaker 1: But then the opposite side of this is that sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it does drag along a lot more of the field
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  Speaker 1: and everybody's hoping for that and going through all of it.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, Ross said what you talked about, there
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  Speaker 1: quite the swing. I will say, just going over definitely
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  Speaker 1: gonna bring this up now. I think we're not going
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  Speaker 1: to share the community success. But it was an absolute
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  Speaker 1: huge week for ship It Nation. We had over five
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  Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars plus two more Fantasy Golf World Championship season.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody has, oh, are you tracking it? It's not really.
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  Speaker 1: It's more just celebrating the success of the members. But
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  Speaker 1: Rex hard body ship the eight eighty eight for two
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  Speaker 1: hundred k with Scottie, you go up to the next one.
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  Speaker 1: Ricardo up the thirty one eighty. He had Scotty, so
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  Speaker 1: you still got away with Scotty in a ton of
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  Speaker 1: places there. You know, Kenny had a pretty good week,
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  Speaker 2: pretty big he played.
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  Speaker 1: I think that was the two K because they have
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• 6:27
  Speaker 1: You you and I both had made it to the
• 6:29
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• 6:32
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• 6:34
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• 6:39
  Speaker 1: was like the you know, usually you can get in
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  Speaker 1: for much cheaper. This year they've made it. There's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of two K and three K qualifiers, so it's
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  Speaker 1: a it's a little bit skewed towards the top, but
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  Speaker 1: just a ton of you know, a ten K score
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  Speaker 1: for d Nasty, ten k for Mark, ten k for
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  Speaker 1: our guy Djen. He shipped the GPP last week. He'll
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: be back tomorrow night with the emergency stream. Shout out
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  Speaker 1: to our guy Scarface. Him loots a Scotty Scheffler lineup
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  Speaker 1: up there for a ten K score, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: Scotty let me down. Another ten k, but a lot
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you might might want to do that that would
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• 10:44
  Speaker 1: the point justin made here. I will say, I'm not
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: sure if you've got a chance to check out whether yet,
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: but definitely looks like so rain coming in Wednesday overnight.
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  Speaker 1: By the looks of again, our guy DJM will have
• 10:53
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  Speaker 1: But I will say it is rain coming in rain
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  Speaker 1: on Thursday, winds picking up Thursday afternoon Friday. It's kind
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  Speaker 1: of scattered across. So I'm not sure if you're thinking
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  Speaker 1: about that right now or anything that comes to mind
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  Speaker 1: when when you're looking at that, But I do think
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  Speaker 1: weather could definitely play a factor, especially because remember we're
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  Speaker 1: playing tory Pine's South. It's already a long course. If
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  Speaker 1: it's longer, and if it's going to play longer due
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  Speaker 1: to the wetness and things like that, that can lead
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  Speaker 1: into more bomber heavy approach longer off the tea, more
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  Speaker 1: accurate get out of that thick rough when it's wet
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  Speaker 1: and soaked, and then on top of it, these long
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  Speaker 1: approach shots and things. So any quick thoughts on the
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  Speaker 1: weather before we hop into some of these tiers and whatnot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, why there's definitely more of a Wednesday thing,
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  Speaker 2: not necessarily a Tuesday thing. You know, we'll see how
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  Speaker 2: it all shakes out. The tea times with the smaller
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  Speaker 2: number of golfers here, I'm guessing are a little more
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  Speaker 2: condensed and not super spread out, so a lot of
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  Speaker 2: factors that go into it. Like you said, Djen does
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  Speaker 2: a very very good job breaking it all down on
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  Speaker 2: the stream tomorrow, and with whether I like to wait
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  Speaker 2: as long as possible before making like lineup decisions based
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  Speaker 2: on the weather. I want all the information I can
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: have a lot of times it can change as well,
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  Speaker 2: So definitely more of a Wednesday thing. And another reason
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: obviously to tune in and listen to the stream tomorrow night,
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: because again Degend does a phenomenal job breaking it all down.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it's a tough course, and if
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  Speaker 2: we do see some of this precipitation with Whims, it
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  Speaker 2: could be a factor this week for sure.
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• 12:33
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  Speaker 1: If you guys have some stuff for Djen's notes, we
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  Speaker 1: can look it up. I guess you know. Two more things.
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  Speaker 1: One shout out to our guy Ross always here supporting.
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  Speaker 1: The one thing about this is Tory Pine's take two
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  Speaker 1: talking about the farmers that was just here recently. Like
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  Speaker 1: you got to keep in mind too, there's a no
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  Speaker 1: I just mean this is probably not Ross thinking this,
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  Speaker 1: He's just noting it. But it made me think of
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  Speaker 1: the thought that others are looking at out there, like
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  Speaker 1: if it's gonna if it's gonna be different conditions more
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  Speaker 1: we if it's gonna be wetter coming in, like we
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  Speaker 1: see there is no north course to find that low round.
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  Speaker 1: They're just playing the south. So I just as much
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  Speaker 1: as they're here in such a close condensed time. I
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  Speaker 1: think there was only like four or five of the
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  Speaker 1: top twenty golfers here that even were here last time out.
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  Speaker 1: So there's that component of it. So just keep in
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  Speaker 1: mind when you're looking at that stuff coming in, it's
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  Speaker 1: we are going to a course that we were just at,
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  Speaker 1: but it could be completely different. And this looks actually
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  Speaker 1: who like, it's gonna play a lot more major esque, right,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Even in some of those majors, like a
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  Speaker 1: US Open, for example, the field's large, but there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of qualifiers and amateurs and things like that that again,
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  Speaker 1: you can almost wipe out half the field. Chip Brooks
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  Speaker 1: Koepka used to say that. He'd say, like, it's me
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  Speaker 1: versus this small number of golfers. And that's my mentality.
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  Speaker 1: Even if you took some of that confidence or cockiness
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  Speaker 1: out of it, you can only extend the field so much.
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  Speaker 1: There there's like seventy two golfers here. Whatever it is,
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  Speaker 1: and there is I don't know what, like thirty or
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  Speaker 1: forty that you're You're like, okay, for sure, you can
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  Speaker 1: condense your pool quite easily if that's how you feel
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  Speaker 1: about it. But I think a lot of people struggle
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  Speaker 1: when they get to the top and go, Okay, Scotty
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  Speaker 1: or Rory for much cheaper. So let's talk about that
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: hoop because the Scotti effect. I don't think he comes
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: anywhere near sixty this week after everything. I know, his
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: price barely changed. But I think people are really high
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: on Rory at ten to nine, obviously coming off of
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: a win and being such a discount. And there is
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: plenty of guys in the six case that you can play,
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: but at the same time, there's a lot of question
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: marks around guys like I don't know, let's just you know,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: name a few here, Nick Dunlap Seamous Power, like some
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: won't get played, like Matt Chew, Pavn, Danny List at Saveria,
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: like some of these guys just aren't gonna get love.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: And then you know Billy Horschell last week. You know
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: some of these guys that people aren't gonna be too
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: happy with. So I think there's a couple that stand
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: out in the six case, but it does feel like
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: more people will want to land in the sevens and
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: it's easy to do that, just as easy to do
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: that with a Rory lineup as it is a Scotty.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: But give me your thoughts up top here.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the recent factors. I think, you know,
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: recent events, recent things we've seen. We'll definitely keep Scotty
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: in check. And I don't know, like, is there a
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: chance where you know, Rory gets more ownership or is
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: that just like a little bit too crazy thinking like that.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: I mean field crazing right now. But we were close
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: last week, Like I started the week high, and then
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: by the time we got to the other like to
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: our show, it was like, man, I actually think it
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: could end up being like forty to fifty and I
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: was trying to bank on that you end up getting
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: not only that, but over sixty. So this week flipping around,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be close. Like I could definitely see a
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: world where they both come in in the thirty to
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: thirty five range. I guess it is a possibility.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean you look at it with with
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Scotty specifically, and what's what's working like against him, Like
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: in terms of ownership, what could potentially bring his ownership
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: down this week? Well, I think there's three main things
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: that that will keep it in check and bring it down.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: He played like shit on the back nine last week.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Was it a forty one? Someone said double the last hole.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: You know, it was not typical Scotti fashion. He typically
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: always grinds out to the end regardless. He missed that
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: four footer and then he made a boat of four
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: footer for birdie which would have put him I think
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: five under on the round. The next hole he made
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: bogie and then like I'm not saying like he gave up,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: but like he just you could tell like he just
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: wasn't into it and completely fell apart. I'm not personally
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: holding that against him, but I think the DFS field
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: will hold that against him a little bit. You got
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Rory coming off a win where he kind of dominated
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: on Sunday, which over the last few years has not
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: been the case. Like Rory in contention on Sunday the
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: last couple of years has been him melting down and
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: playing like shit. He came out and absolutely stomped these
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: guys and he is fourteen one hundred dollars cheaper, like
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: more people are going to be considering Rory this week
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: than a couple of weeks ago. And then you have
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: the I guess resurgence I'll say of Dustin Thomas, coming
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: off of a really really bad season last year, continues
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: to play pretty solid. I'd say, holding out for eagle.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: He was not really in contention, but hold out for eagle.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: And then the score is very nice, finishing six and
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: even the four eighth place the week before. I mean,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: he made a ton of birdies he scored. I don't
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: know the exact number, maybe someone in the chat does,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: but he scored as if he finished like top twenty
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: because all the birdies and eagles, So people are gonna
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: want to consider him. And then Colin Morikawa up top
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: at ten k flat. People always like him, and I
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: think he has good course history here as well. So
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: there's like multiple factors here, multiple reasons to look past Scotty.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: So I do think there's a chance that he definitely
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: gets held in check. When you consider it a circumstance,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: it's a no cut event. There's only what seventy five
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: golfers like you talked about, you know, normal circum like
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: two weeks ago. If this plays out and Scotty doesn't
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: have the injury stuff or anything to go along with
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: it or their last couple events, he's probably at least
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: fifty percent for sure here, no questions asked. It's going
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: to be in Chuck this week. It just has to be.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: And I think Rory might have a chance to be
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: right there with him in terms of ownership when it's
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: all said and done, And I don't know. I think
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: it provides a good opportunity for the Scotty people. If
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: you're a Scotty Scotty, which I am, I think we're
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: going to have a pretty good opportunity to get him
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: lower than he should be or typically would be in
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: this spot. So that's my takeaway, uh with Scotty, And
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I think it's again it's always going to be a
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: big talking point. I mean, this upper range will always
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: be a big talking point, but I think it's especially
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: important this week.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: So I agree of the possibility and I'm actually not
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: against it completely And we'll see how it goes as
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: the week shakes out, because it's definitely a thing. But
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: what worries me the other way is that, first off,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: enough people do know that it is still Scotty Scheffler.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, it's you know,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: if someone thinks that he's going to be lower owned
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: at a hard or a tougher course, the way it's
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: going to play all that, and they start to see it,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I think people start to jam him back in. I
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: do still have him rating out better than Rory. It
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: is just a matter of you also have to pay
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: for that, so it is baked in. Rory kind of
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: bakes out better what looks like more like a point
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: per dollar effect, so to speak, if you'll look at
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: it that way, but you'll see hoop and this is
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: where we start. And when we get there later in
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: the ranges, you've got you know, in the seven k range,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: you've got guys like Min Wu Lee, Mad McNeely, Adam Scott, JT.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Post and Seawou Kim, all the favorites right there that
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: basically make Scotty just work. So, yes, some will move
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: it to a Rory lineup, some will look at it
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: in different perspectives, but you know, certainly something to think
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: about there, and yeah, I think what Jay Steele says
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: that is definitely possible. I want to comment on this though,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: because you brought up the JT thing. JT doing what
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: he did on the last five or six six holes.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I think it was four birdies in an eagle on
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: the last six holes to round it out, when you're
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: completely out of contention and you're JT and you can
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: just turn it on. That is Patrick Mahomes to Worthy
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: down three touchdowns in the Super Bowl. Yeah, amazing, one
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: of the best throws I think I've ever seen in
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. But too late, buddy, Like, it don't matter,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: so obviously you're just gonna fire away. If you could
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: get another pick, they can't say much worse about you.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: That was what happened with JT down the stretch.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly it was garbage time scoring. It was never
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: in contention, I mean, never ever in contention. Finishes T
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: six flurry of birdies at them, you know, playing for nothing.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I agree, whare a way.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Like fire Again, I'm not shitting on the guy, like
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I definitely think he's been playing better golf lately and
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: he's in consideration for that reason. There's Mari Kawa there,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: there's Ludwig who you got to think about a little
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: bit here. The sickness and stuff that he's been going
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: through lately. There'shideki underneath, and so the bigger decision is
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: that I think the seven k's and that sort of
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: thing sets up for Scotty, and you got to think
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: about that perspective. But I also think, like somebody mentioned
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: it here, and I'm not saying it's a bad common
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: or wrong, it's we all oro own opinion. Shout out
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: to Joshua throwing his out there and being vulnerable, but
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: he said, I'm always under on Scotty, just so high.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Varian said it's a good play not to play him.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: We had a ton of discussion in our discord on
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: this last week for other reasons. Shout out to our guy.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Jill came down with a two fifty, but just saying it,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: it's almost like people forget and you're when you're in
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: the seven k range, there's probably thirty options around whatever
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: option you're considering. When it's Scotty Scheffler at the top,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: it's not that he's inhuman or a god or whatever
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: people want to call him. It's you're really only comparing
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: him to like three or four. Think about when Rory
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: won a couple of weeks ago, Scotty was right there.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: He led the field and approach knocked off the rust.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I think he came eighth, But you ain't gonna help
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: when the guy right underneath you wins the tournament. Obviously
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: you're in trouble. You mentioned it, Hoop yourself. Scotty still
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: ended up in a ton of winning lineups last week.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: But obviously that last surge by JT did help some people,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: and that's the game we play. Like you said, that
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: can happen. But your real thought process this week is
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: it is not a field of quote unquote losers or
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: whatever people want to call them out there. It is
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Roy McIlroy coming off a win, looking really good. JT
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: coming off of Fluria, Birdies, good batter, the ugly round
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: four or not still playing better golf, Morikawa, oh Berg
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Hadeki can't lay him like. There is just a ton
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: of guys up here. So maybe we do get the
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: spot where it does keep him in check a little,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: but you gotta think people that are just building lineups
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: can still easily get to him, since the eight k
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: range looks enticing, but the seven k range is really
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: loaded up with guys that people are able to get
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: to quite easily, and so I could see where that
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: ends up happening. Anything else you want to talk about
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: with Scotty in particular like that, or do you want
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: to talk more about some of the other guys below
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: the ten care range.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I guess the one thing I brought this up and
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: you touched on it, like starting Rory Thomas, like if
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: people are going to want to go two studs. I
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: think that's where Scotty ownership could come down a little
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: bit as well, because you start to look at it
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: and you're saving fourteen hundred like to go Scotty and JT.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: You're down to sixty nine hundred per spot if you
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: start Rory j T seventy two and you can stay
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: in that seven K range like you kind of alluded
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: to and avoid the six K range. So I don't know.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: My Again, my early lean would be that that Rory
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: and Scotty end up somewhere close in terms owners Again,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I've looked very foolish and I'll take my awls, like
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: at the Austin Necro where I had to you know,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: the dude the showye like I'm always taking my als.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I don't give a shit like these other people get
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: on here and you know, the bad takes and then
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: they just like move on past them and never want
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: to talk about them, Like I'll take that out. But
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I think it ends up being pretty close this week
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: between those two and for a variety of reasons. And
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: then like the double stud lineups, I think is another
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: reason where we could see it being a lower Scotti's
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: ownership being lower than anticipated.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely think it's possible talk talk to about
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: this next range. Then, like you know, Ober Matsiyama, can't
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Ley Sung, Jay Fleetwood, Pendrith, some of these guys set
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: up well for what we're talking about here with this
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: course this week is just that's the consideration. And when
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: you've already got love going to Scotty and Rory and
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: maybe one of JT or Moricau if not a little
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: bit to both. No matter what happens, the math ain't mathing,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Like this area just has to be at least a
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: little bit squeezed versus you know, people getting to some
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: of the Rasmuses, the Bobby Max, the Sepstracas, the d Trees,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: all these guys. And then of course, like I said,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: we'll get to those seven case those are getting peppered
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: this week and it's very condensed right now, early on
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: on where that ownership is landing, and I'll give you
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the answers to the test and we get there.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it has definitely a chance to go
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: a little overlooked. I mean, starting right at the top, like,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: who the hell is gonna want to play Ludwig? Like
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: after being what he came out the two tournaments ago,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: looked good, got sick, completely shit the bed finished what
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: forty second at the Farmers after shoot in the sixty
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: three in round one, played like absolute crap, claimed he
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: was still sick. I mean, who knows. I mean it
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: would have been like a week straight of being sick.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Maybe he still was, maybe never fully rebounded, but shot
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: the seventy seven and then Withdrew at Pebble Beach. I
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: can't imagine people are gonna want to click that name,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: especially with the four dudes above him, Morikawa, j t Rory,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: and Scotti. I'll tell you right now, I'll definitely be
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: playing him. I mean this sets up very well for him.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: I played in those two weeks very highly where it
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: didn't work out and has to get squeezed a little
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: bit here. You know, Matsiama has been a pretty popular name,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: i'd say for the most part through the beginning half
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: of this PGA season. But I think this is a
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: spot again where he could go a little overlooked. Recent
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: results have not been good. I mean he's been priced
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: up there at the top, thirty second at the Farmers,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: forty eight at the AT and T, and then twenty
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: fifth last week, where he's been priced like that's definitely
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: not getting the job done. People might be at the
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: point where they kind of had enough with him. Can't
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: lay always a guy that gets some ownership, I don't know.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I mean it's always tough to gauge with Cantle. I
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: mean he's a name, people like him. I always feel
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: like when he's priced like ninety five hundred or below,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: he's always going to get some It's just a matter
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: of how much your boy son. Jay has not been
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: great and three out of the last four was good
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: here though at the Farmers where he finished t fourth.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I'm sure that's enough to get to get him some ownership.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Fleetwood at ninety one and then Pendrith at nine k.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: That's now a pretty big price tag for a guy
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: like Pendrith. And I've been playing a ton of Pendrith.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: The results have been good, but people might look at
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: this and say, ooh, you know, that's a little bit
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: much for a guy like, you know, Taylor Pendrith. So
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: we'll see. I think it definitely has a chance to
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: go a little bit a little bit overlooked, to be
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: honest with you, And there's nobody here that I look
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: at and I say, man, I absolutely have to play
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: these guys. Like I talked about Ludvig, I'm in on
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: him because I do think the ownership is gonna be low.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: But I think it's definitely a range where people could
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: just overlook it and say, you know what, like I'll
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: just get more exposure to the ten k and above range,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: and you know, push some of these dudes here in
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: the nine k range to the to the side. So
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I think again, it could get squeezed a little bit here.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I agree this. I'm gonna bring up quick this guy.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I think this gut out in the world somehow and
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: got mixed up like it was lost in the mix
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: that he did not play the American Express when Sepstraco won,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: So it was not he was never playing five weeks
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: in a row or six weeks in a row. I
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: think this is only even his fourth since that, and
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: he obviously had to win a couple of weeks before
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: the American Express. So just something to think about there.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I think Decky's probably fine. I think this is a
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: good point that shouts guy Kenny very sharp. We're lucky
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: to have him in the discord over a ship and
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: nation appreciate his insight. But he said, this is talking
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: about the Scotty thing, and it does play into the
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: nine k's for me here in a second, so I'll
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: refer it back to what we're talking about. But he's saying,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: like if those low owned options, that's why we always
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: talk about roster construction and concepts that go with it. Obviously,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: if Patrick Rogers, Woodland, Kevin, you guys like that down
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: to the bottom that start to get, you know, pick
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: up steam, then that leads to more options with the
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: ability to get to Scotty. It could be Rory some too,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: but for sure up there with Scotty, one of the
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: things to remember, like it was already mentioned earlier, like
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: immediately it was Rory JT. If you're not going Scotty
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: like it's I think it's really hard to make up
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: the win equity for Rory Scotty, JT. Cowell, like that
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: could end up being like forty or fifty percent of
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: the win equity in this field. That's what the books
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: are gonna have it. That's what you're gonna see in
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: the numbers, But you're not really working. It's like if
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: this then that. Of course we expect that. Of course
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: that's what's on paper, but it is golf, and it
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: is four full days and all of that. So I
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: think the interesting part about the nine K range is
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: people think, like, as soon as they go off Scotty,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: it means you have to go to Rory, or as
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: soon as I go Scotty and Rory, then I have
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: to do JT. Like you could definitely load up, like
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Oberg Matziama can't lay or get three guys in here,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: and you're never picking up the win equity that's up top.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: You're just not getting it. But if those guys won
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: the tournament, you would not be like, oh my gosh,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: how did Podeki Matsiama win another tournament? Or how did
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: you know Morikawa win? I know it sounds and people
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: like to make fun of some of these guys too,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: so I get it. But I'm just saying these are
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: not wild winners if they ended up winning this tournament
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: the way it's set up. So what it would do
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: for you in Kenny's example here is it would make
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: it so you don't have to go anywhere near you'd
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: be getting your last guy in to your lineup in
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: the range that's usually gonna be the fourth or fifth
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: guy in a Scotti or Rory lineup, so you completely
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: avoid that. And where there is still somewhat of a
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: cut and great point here how much win equity Diditri
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: have last week exactly? So it's definitely something to think
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: about when you're looking at this stuff.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Hoops.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: So I think in this nine k range, like I
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: definitely have interest in probably more than most. I think.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I like Kadeki, I like can't Lay, I like im,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I like Pendreth, and we'll see what happens with the rest.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I get the thing, but you know it's it's more
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: of his price to the other guys around him, Like
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I would still like Morekawa better. I'd probably just get
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: the money and go up to Rory. I get it,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: But you know the other guys down here I could
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: see playing and I'm I don't know what's gonna happen
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: with Pendrith's ownership, but I definitely have interest. Man, he's uh,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: he's you know, it's it's probably too high. I liked
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: that they didn't best by price him at like eighty
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: six hundred or eighty five, where he's just under nine k.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I liked that they made him the full nine k
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: flat and it feels overpriced. But he's a big boy.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: He puts it out there clean. He's got opportunity, He's
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: got other pieces to his game that could come through.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: He's playing really good golf right now, seventh, ninth, thirteenth.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I'm you know, it's not even close to the same course,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: so I don't want to look at his previous results.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: But in stronger fields, big boy events, things like that,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: he definitely has shown up in the past. So I
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: think he's fine. It's just it's gonna be awkward. But realistically,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: like Fleetwood, Tom Kim some of the other guys around him,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: if you don't love them, I got no problem getting
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: to Pendrith, and there's no Canadian bias, I promise, I
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: just I think he's been playing good enough. So yeah, exactly,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: you like him, man, Sunday. This guy is so tilting, man,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: it is unbelievable every freaking time. But yeah, I'm gonna
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: stick with him. But do you see him in the gym.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: I saw a little post yesterday Sun Jay Slim is
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: coming back. I don't know if that it might mess
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: up his even more, but he's working on the health man.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: He's getting in the gym. So I'm taking after my
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: guy Sunday Whop. I told you for the show. I'm
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna get in shape this next ninety days.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: So Sung Jay's my boy. He's in the gym. I
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: gotta get in the gym too, But I'll definitely have
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: interest in Sung Jay at ninety two hundred. Let's talk
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: about this eight K range. Go from Sung jaym to
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Tom Kim. We got Tom Kim down to last week's winner,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Thomas Dietrie. So give me your thoughts on this AK range.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: It just has to go overlooked besides two or three
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: guys that I'm seeing here with a little bit of
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: early ownership.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's probably one of those ranges. And
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: I feel like the AK it was like this last
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: week where the bottom of the AK range just looks
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: way more appealing than the top, and roster construction kind
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: of fits that too, where you want to get some
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: of those high win equity guys that you talked about
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: at the top, so maybe you save a few hundred
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: dollars in focus more on the bottom. I do think
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: that's probably the case this week, where a lot of
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: these guys at the top go a little bit overlooked,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: like Tom Kim at eighty nine hundred, like at this course. Yeah,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I mean I don't need to play him Lowry at
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: eighty eight. I think Jason Day, though, is a guy
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: that people will like here at eighty seven hundred. He's
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: been playing well. I think the course sets up solid
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: for him. I mean it's just been pretty steady finishes.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, nothing worse than what like T forty all season,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: and you know that's not like greater or anything. But
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: he's eighty seven hundred, a couple more birdies, he's right
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: there in the top twenty, top fifteen, So I think
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: he's an interesting option. I don't think people are gonna
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: have to play Henley here. You know, Jordan Speith was
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: solid last week. I don't think this is a good
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: setup for him, Like I'm fine being off of him,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: and then I think it starts to get like a
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: little bit interesting, like Sam Byrne at eighty four, you know,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: a little bit lower of a price tag for him.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: You know, I have a lot of interest in some
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: of these guys in the lowers, and I haven't seen
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: like many prelimit solid preliminar area ownership stuff. But a
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: lot of these guys sound good to me. Restmus Hoyguard
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: eighty three hundred was very solid last week. Again, he
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: fell apart on Sunday like he fell out. He wasn't
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: gonna win it. I mean, Dtree took that thing and said,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm taking this, it's mine. Hoyguard is one that
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: kind of sucked. He shot the seventy one. People see that,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: people maybe want to avoid it. I like him at
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: eighty three. You know, Tony Fenow, I think it's definitely
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: a good setup for him. He finally played good at
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: the pro am Sepstraca. I mean the Sepstraca. If you've
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: been playing Sepstraca, just continue to play him like, do
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: not stop. He's been very good. The ownership has yet
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: to get to a crazy level eight K for him.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Fifteenth last week, seventh, first, thirty fifteenth, like he has
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: been good all year, I think he could be like
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: nine k. He could be right there with Pendrith this
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: week right in terms of if you look at the
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: recent form and how well he's playing, he's had eight
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: K that's below the average roster spot, and he's been
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: one of the guest best guys out there. And then
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: the Dtree thing too. I think I do think this
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: is one of those situations where people are, like we've
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: seen it go both ways, where a guy wins and
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: people want to stay on him. When a guy wins,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: people want to stay off them. I think this week
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: where people will probably stay off them a little bit,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: to be honest, because there's a lot of guys around
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: him that are appealing. I have no problem going right back.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I have no problem whatsoever going right back at eight
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: k again less than the average roster spot. He had
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: success at the Farmers Shot he finished t fifteenth. There,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I'm finally going right back to de Tree. I hope
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: the field kind of gets away from him, but I'm
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: way more interested in the lower eight K range. It's
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: going to fit what I'm doing with my teams. Anyway,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: and I'm just going to embrace these guys. I like
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: a lot of them down here at Rasmus F Now, Straka,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: d Tree, I think are all very solid plays this week, and.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: The chat is killing me. I will say, we're halfway through,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: so we usually save it till the end, and we
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: happily will hoop and I will definitely share more if
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: people have like ama stuff, want to ask us stuff
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: questions because we did the food take soup on the
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: NFL shows and obviously the NFL is no more. Shout
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: out to the Eagles getting the job done. But you
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: know they're talking about Tambo on day one or one day.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: That's the same, right, Everyone says, oh, I'll go to
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: the gym one day, but day one, if you just
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: got started, you could find your way. But I laughed
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: so hard at this one I had to mute it said,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: I'm modeling myself after Straka. After I talked about Straca,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: very big boy. But love to see that one, Steven,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: And then you know, toe tagging Rambo.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'll say, in Tambo's defense, it has been going.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: It isn't like he's just starting the gym journey. I
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: know for a fact, we talk basically every morning. He
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: is in the gym like you are in the gym,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: So you can clarify that, yeah.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I should be like two hundred and forty pounds, but
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not even close to that. I'm like fifty less.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: But I'm saying this is more like a structured setup.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I went inside personal trainer that I'm getting up for
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: to go see a couple times a week just to
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: get really dialed in. So that's kind of the set
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: up here. Like I've been working on it for a while,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: I've had struggles with it, ups and downs, so I
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: thought this would be a way that I would You know,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: what I would say is if you pay, it's a marketing.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: If you pay, you pay attention. And that's what I
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: always tell people, like, if you put your money in,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: it's nobody's fault but yourself. But you can either watch
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: the money go down or you can do something about it.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: And that's kind of what I was thinking about with this.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: So it's not day one of the gym grind, but
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: it's you know, not going to the gym just to
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: say I went type of thing and just go through
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: the motions. It's gonna be a lot stronger push when
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: it comes to that. But back to DFS, I think
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: you said one thing about d Tree that stands out
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: is you know it's it's what happens all the time,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: right hoo. There's no way he can show up again.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: He's not gonna win again. He does not need to win.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: He is literally less than the average price, like he's eighty,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: he's ek. So when you're looking at it from that perspective,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: there's still opportunity there. I do like your feene out call.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I actually think people won't go away from Rasmus. I
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: don't think they can get away from how good Struck
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: is not saying they should. My point more being there's
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: too many guys around feenw where I think people go
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: to Rasmus, Bobby, Max Sep some of the other guys,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and then we're about to get to this upper seven
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: k range is definitely gonna have like at least on
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: min Wu and Matt McNeely, there's gonna be love there.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Those guys are just from their odds perspective, the market
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: people might move to Keegan some even We'll have to
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: see how the Steam and Moonwalking goes on Djen Show
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: tomorrow night but this upper eight K range is where
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: it gets interesting. You're reaching because the guys in the
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: nines are clearly better and it's not that much more money,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: but realistically there's gonna be like sub ten percent. It
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: looks like on Tom Kim, Shane Lowry, maybe even Jason
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: day Henley. I think those four interest me more than
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: the speed stuff coming back and all that. But you know,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: the bottom range with Rasmus Feenale, Bobby max Sep, even
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: a little bit on Dtree, but Dietri maybe second less
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: after Feenw I think more people play the bottom than
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: play the top. So that's just you know how you
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: got to think about it. When you're looking at roster construction,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: you can consider that there anything else on the eight k. No.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: I do agree. I mean, I think ownership and just
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: over our all appeal is going to be higher in
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: the lower eights than the upper. But I'm not seeing
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: anyone that's going to be like extremely highly owned in
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: this range. May maybe you do, but I do think
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: there's enough options in this low eights where probably gets
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: spread out amongst those guys. And I didn't even mention McIntyre.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: I know you are typically about Bobby McIntyre guy, and
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: he's been playing well at a solid finished last week
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: right there too, So I mean he's gonna get some
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: have some interest there too.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I think this is true for the first part, Nick,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I think the second part still doesn't happen. It's just
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: a you know, product or roster construction, do a needy
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: dry runs early. You look at those Scottie builds, you
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: look at those Rary builds. It's just it's not landing there.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: That will definitely be a way to get different. It's
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: still because again, people are still more than comfortable. You
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: can go look up Bomber stats or Rasmus, Bobby, Max
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Sep these guys like so it's way more and who
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: one thing that was sort of overlooked last week that
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I think again, you're you. You've been sort of the
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know, the king or the captain of this team,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: team not worried about ownership if you will, of like
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: looking at it, like last week when Scotty gets to sixty,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: there was one guy after Scotty last week at twenty
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: and now it's it's slipped my mind who it was
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: after that. Everybody was pretty much sixteen percent or less,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: like eighty five percent of the field is avoiding everybody
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: else and it's just getting completely spread out. You really
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: don't have to consider it as much at that point.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Obviously with your Scotti lineups, you didn't want to load
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: them up with all fifteen percenters and the top own
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: value plays. Yeah, it was Billy Hoe shut up the
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: nick he had it there was that.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I think he was like he did, But it's like
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: you got to kind of put that, you know, how
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: I and I'm not saying I have all the answers
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: do not get me wrong, but how I envision it
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: is putting these guys in kind of buckets or ranges, Like, Okay,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Billy Hoe was twenty, someone else was right there eighteen,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Like what is what is the difference? It's the same
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: damn thing. So it's like after that, you're looking like
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty percent range. You know, a guy be
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: between five and ten. All those guys that ended up
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: five to ten or the exact same play, there's like
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: no different So kind of view it as just buckets
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: and ranges and that's kind of and last week it
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: was a little more extreme, but I mean, yeah, I
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: mean after Scotty, nothing else really mattered. I mean, there's
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: a plothora. I don't know the exact number of guys
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: that were right there between fifteen and twenty percent. Billy
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Horschel was at the top of that list, but there's
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: no difference between someone, you know, seventeen eighteen percent and
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: twenty percent.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: And that's what I see here just around out the
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: eighth and then we'll go to the upper sevens. But
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of ten to fifteen percent range
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: at the lower eight k range, like between the Rasmus,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: the like Fenw Bobby, Max sep Dtrie, those guys. I'm
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: seeing ten to fifteen percent early, but I'm not seeing
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: anything else, you know, too crazy after that. Even in
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: this next range, I don't know what these guys actually
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: get to. I think they get steamed in higher stakes
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Minwu and Matt McNeely, that is. But we got the
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: cover boy, Willie Z. We got Victor Hovlin at maybe
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's an all time low, but
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: seventy nine hundred feels really low for Victor Hovland. Kegan
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Bradley's seventy seven. So you know, Harris English won at
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: this course playing the North then the South a bunch
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: of different conditions and whatnot. But I mean he can grind.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: He's seventy six hundred. So give me your thoughts on
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: this seven K range of what you're seeing here. I
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: will say, obviously the smaller field, but it's really slimmed down.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Only twenty guys total in the seven K range altogether.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the first name for sure, like Victor Holin,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: that seems like, you know, I haven't been playing Havelm,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: but this see definitely seems like an over correction all
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: the way down to seventy nine hundred. You start looking
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: at some of the names that are above him, and
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: it's crazy. I mean, he's typically in this field like
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: a nine ninety five hundred GOLFERD say last year, Like
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: you run this back last year, he's probayed ninety five hundred.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Now he's all the way down to seventy nine. I
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: do think it's too much of an over correction. Now
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: what will that do for his ownership? Like I think
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: he is a guy that could could potentially get get
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: steamed up, because man, anytime someone gets a massive decrease
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: like this, there's just going to be some level of
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: appeal when you start clicking names, but it's tough to void.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Seventy nine hundred does seem like a lot Minwu Lee McNeely.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Those are guys that will get some Zalatorus. The cover guy,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: you know, our cover guy for this show.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know if I necessarily I have.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I've played him a little bit, to be honest with you,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: but have not. I don't know. I'm not not certain
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: what I'll end up doing with him. It does kind
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: of fall off though.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: For me.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: I just really prefer like the Hovelins, min Wu's Mcneely's
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: over guys like Keegan Benyon, Harris English. I do like
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Sam Stevens been playing solid golf, does have solid course
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: history here as well. It just seems like a guy
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: that's kind of taken his game to the next level,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: and he's priced brown some some real names here, I
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: mean Gala right below. All those guys are just mentioned
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: above him. Adam Scott. Yeah, I'm still interested in Stevens,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: and I don't think you have to worry about ownership
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: at all just because of the names right around him.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: But Adam Scott, seventy five, Corey Connors for sure, I
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: mean seventy four hundred, Like, I get it, the course
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: probably doesn't set up great for him, but man like
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: seventy four hundred for Corey Connors, like I have to
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: be interested there. Wyndham Clark showed some signs of life
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: last week. Did fall off though, I mean he was
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: what round one shot the sixty four, Yeah, it was
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: really one one bad round I mean really bad round
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: two shot of seventy three when everyone else is kind
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: of scoring, and you know that kind of took him
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: out of contention. But that seems low. Seventy three for
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Wyndham Clark. Seewoo, Kim, good call on your part for
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: round four. I know he was a staple. I think
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: a core play in the round four a shot he
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: killed me.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I had him and Kevin you as two of the
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: main peg plays because like those are the guys and
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: it just still because you could afford them and it
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: did not turn out well after such a hot start.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Baia seventy one hundred, I definitely want to be
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: on him. So I don't know, I look at a
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: lot of these names here and just seem too cheap
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: for the field. In what these guys have been throughout
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: the course of their career. And that's to me the
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: main takeaway from this range. Victor hovelin seventy nine hundred
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: like seems cheap, Adam Scott, Corey Connors, Wyndham Clark, even
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Batilla at seventy one hundred, guys that could easily be
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: more expensive. And again I just don't think ownership is
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: going to matter all that much because I do think
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: after some of these top end guys, I think it
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: does get spread out a little bit. Yeah, and that's
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: my concern with Hovlin. Dude, does everyone no, Okay.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: No, there's no way they get to it. I think
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: you have to call it. It has to be the
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: hoop call. Is he the most disrespectful price you've seen
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: so far? Yeah? It is.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: You know what's interesting two things actually, one let me
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: see Hovlin so uh, you know, I've seen a little
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: love out there for certain guys, and like you know,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Sam Burns is getting a little bit of love, like
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: min Wu is playing better overall. But the last result
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Victor Hoblin had two weeks ago was a twenty second place,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: which is the same as Rasmus at that event, the
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: same as Sam Burns at that event, the same as
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: he would at that event better than can't lay. Like,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Everyone didn't want to give him shit,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: and you're not gonna give him full credit because someone's
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: even joked about it and said, it's the it's the coach. Yeah,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: he's priced for coach volatility. He keeps switching up the
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: swing coaches and stuff. But just to note it is
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: at least somewhat interesting. And then I got to ask,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: when you said Sam Stevens has good course history here,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: were you thinking we were playing this course or the
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: actual course that they usually play at Riviera.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: No, I think Tory Pines, right, I believe he's been
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: good at Tory Pines. Correct, Yeah, you doubled it.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: He actually has been pretty good at both. That's though
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: I was laughing to see because if you looked at
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: like this versus that, so oops.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: I wasn't tripping, right, I mean, he's been good at
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Tory Pines.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, he's it's all good. I wanted to see
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: if he had the answer because I was like, he
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: might be mega minding all of us here and stuff,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: and he's trying to bring that into blame.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely not my strong suit. But I'm pretty
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: sure I read that one correctly.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some some talk on Grazer min some talk on
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: min Wu, like Mi min Wu is definitely getting love here,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: So Kenny, you'll be loving it in the Thunderdome and
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. I think you'll be very, very happy
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: if you're moving off of a guy like min Wou
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: at least getting what you want going in. You may
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: not be happy with the result if he goes off
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: and crushes you. But definitely think people are gonna be
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: good with min Wu here. He fits a lot of
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: the other metrics that people are looking at. I think
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: the other thing is to just this mid to bottom range. Yes,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: you know JJ Spahn, Batia Si Wu, those types of
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: guys you'll posting. I think was one that I don't know,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: you know how far in depth you went on him
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: with some of the other guys around him. But he's
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: another guy that I think people are gonna have interest in.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: It's been a little bit rocky ups and downs, but
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: coming off of a sixteenth twelfth a couple of weeks
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: before that, we've definitely seen him at higher price points.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: But seventy two, I think it'll be a little bit
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: of love there more on see who I suspect though
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: early on, but that mid range there of like Saheath
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Scott Connors hosting one.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of people have askedpot I just man,
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: something just does not seem right with the gallo to
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: me just watching them through. I mean, he's had some
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: just very bad rounds that have totally taken him out
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: of contention. It seems like, uh, previous weeks. I don't,
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: It's been bad. Yeah, it has been bad. I wonder like.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: I mean he shot a seventy four last week to
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: open up. I mean, you're done at that point, because
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: guys are making a ton of birdies here. He shot
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: at eighty on Sunday in eighty just complete tanked. I
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: don't know, I don't, I don't love it.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: I think he's had a twenty fifth and a fourth
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: playing at the Farmers before again, not comparing the same
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: at all, just to give an example though, you know, potential,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: but yeah, the price points on some of these guys.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: I guess there's something to be said this week for
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: probably just you know, looking at your player pool and
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: just using the sevens only there's only twenty but let's
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: just name it like zal Hoveland, who else Thigala posting
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Sea wu Batia. Maybe like just those guys alone of
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: like man they seem for I know it's even a
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: stronger field, but they definitely seem under and Wyndham Clark
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: I should add to them, I guess even yeah, like
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Cam Young, he's that guys I'm saying, I'm playing all.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: I'm saying the idea of some weeks and May and
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: I have done this on certain roster construction shows where
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: it's just like building a lineup with the guys that
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: you are like why are they at this price? And
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: then watch and see if their talent just somehow comes
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: through and comes back. Because I know we haven't even
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: mentioned Max Homy yet, and that's because we can't. We
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: haven't got to that range yet. He's in the six
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: case at sixty five hundred for Max Homo. At the
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: same he's actually less than the dude that dressed up
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: in a camouflage suit last week, played so bad in
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: round one at Wd's after he's his first round on
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: a place that he absolutely loves. So poor Ricky Fowler.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: But go ahead, let's take it into these six case.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: I mean just on the Ricky thing, Like if you're
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: showing up to a golf event wearing that get up,
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: like you better know that you're about to come out
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: there and fuck some shit up, like you're about to
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: get the job done, You're about to dominate. Not only
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: did he suck ass like he was fucking terrible, he's
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: such a pussy that he withdrew in between rounds like
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: that is like the most shameful rollout to a golf
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: event of all time wearing that sort of get up
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: where if you're wearing that, you better dominate. He sucked
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: and then w ding after the first round where you
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: sucked wearing a camo outfit on the golf course, Like
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: what a little bitch, Like absolute bitch. But that's my
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: take on him this week. Oh my buddies were tiring.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Oh did you guys see Ricky? Like yeah, like, man, like,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: if you show up that, you better dominate the fucking
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: golf course, like you better dominate the course, not do
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: what his ass did, and then with like a little
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: bitch in w d this range yeah Max Homer man,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: oh geez, sixty five hundred. But it's like he could
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: easily be like six k. He's been so bad.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: I mean I forgot about this. Sorry to cut you off.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: But this is also another thing. There's been a lot
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: of flak given to these sponsors exemptions, like about how
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: it's not about what you've done for the game or
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: what your reach is, like the foulers and the speeds
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: and all that, and it's like, listen, it's still supposed
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: to be that meritocracy, like you got to play your
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: way in. It's extremely tough. There's a lot of grinders
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: out there that never get their shot. It doesn't you know.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: So some people are all for it, like got to
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: take care of these guys. They've grown the game, they're
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: there for it. Others are really pissed off. And that
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: is kind of just like the cherry on top of
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: the setup.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: That's like golf man, these exemptions and then you get
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: to the President's Cup and the Ryder Cup, like JT
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: making it last year. I mean JT sucked ass, I
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: mean sucked at golf all year and he gets in
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: like over Keegan, Like that's just what golf is. It's
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: like these names hold more value than what they're actually
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: currently doing, and you know how they're playing it's it's
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: it's stupid part of golf, like the names, getting the
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: sponsor exams is like web Simpson continues to get like
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: sponsor exemptions into some of this stuff and like just
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: does not make any sense, you know. Part of the
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: probably the overarching issue with with the PGA Tour. I
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: mean that definitely plays into it. As far as I'm concerned.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Alone at the bottom of the leader, boys.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: He should be he should be the only guy in
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: the five k this week. He should be like fifty
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: nine hundred and everyone else six k and above. He's
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: been so bad, this is too good. Yeah, yeah, let's
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: create the Let's create a five k range this week
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: for fucking Homa and Foller both fifty nine hundred bucks
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: and everyone else six kN above. I think that would
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: be the.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Big personalities Like but but Charmon used to make fun
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: of Ricky said, you got to get your ship together.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Pally said, you're not a Kardashian, You're a golfer. Like whever,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: he wasn't winning majors and when he was back in
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: the day, he was actually having his turns. Is his
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Swingko his guy. Butch Armor was like, buddy, you got
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: to stop being a Kardashian and get out there and
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: play golf and Brian and get better, Like that's how
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: people win majors.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: So true.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Anybody else thinking of or some guys that stand out too, Yeah.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Like I mean, man Daniel Bergers just have to watch
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: him last week, such an easy guy to root for,
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: you know, was very good had the injury, has not
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: fully been back and just grind so he shows up
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: to all these events. He's had to go to some
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: really crappy events, like I think that like the Mexico
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Open and really like corn Ferry Tour esque events just
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: to kind of get it going. And you know, I
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: still hadn't been fully back fully solid finish until last week,
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: and just the easy guy to root for. I mean
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: finish T two looks solid sixty nine hundred, and I
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: know a lot of people say, no, he's gonna be
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: very highly owned, Like I just don't think he is.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: Like I think it does get mixed spread out a
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: little bit. So good with him, Cam Davis, I think
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: it is a name to kind of look at this week.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: Sebez very solid last week, you know, sixty seven. I
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: like playing him when he's very cheap sixty seven I
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: think is interesting. Gary Woodland looks kind of back twenty first,
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: twenty second, sixteenth his last three events. Like, definitely I'll
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: take a chance on on Gary. You know, Ac wrote
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: justin Rose potentially, Michael cam was solid last week. Patrick
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Rogers like we kind of talked about his name was
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: thrown around there in the chat. Kevin, you can always
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: make some birdies. Jake Napp gets in here at six
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: K like, there's guys I'll play, I mean for sure
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: down here. It just you know, comes down to and
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: I know the guy Kenny kind of mentioned it, like,
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: you know, if any of these guys start to get
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: some steam, then you're definitely gonna see more exposure for
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: for dudes like Rory and Scottie up top. But either way,
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: you know, I do think it gets spread out. There's
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: names here and all appealing to to some degree, and
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: I mean I could end up playing more, honestly, Like
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: it depends on how my teams look. I mean, they're
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: more more likely than not going to play four rounds.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Obviously there's gonna be some and we've seen it go
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: the other way where we think it's like a no
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: cut and end up you know, six or six ends
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: up being pretty rare, but it doesn't mean that these
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: guys are the ones that are guaranteed to get cut.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: So I will I'll have some exposure on here for sure.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe this too. I think I think Almos
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: definitely a really nice guy anytime he's interviewed or have
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: watched a ton of his stuff in the past, a
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: lot of respect for him. I think it's crazy and
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: it is a grind. He sort of was always vulnerable
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: and showed that off as he went along, but he's
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: just going through it right now. He's been on record
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: in the past saying it's like one one good swing
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: thought can sort of change your whole game and switch
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: it up. But he needs to find that one thought
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: to pull it off because it's it's been tough and
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: the price is kind of warranted. Again, he would fit
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: the mold of what I talked about earlier if you're
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: playing guys downer. But do you have to when you've
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: got all these other options? You mentioned it Berger, who
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: actually looked good and bounced back last week, you know,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: and from what we've seen from him, I thought that
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: was a pretty good result. You have guys, like you said,
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Cam Davis, Bez McCarthy, Woodland Rose. There's definitely guys down
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: here that you can already get to. I struggle, I
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: guess a little bit off to see. You know, Mayo
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: loves Michael Kim. I've loved the interviews he's done with
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Michael Kim. The guy's awesome on Twitter x whatever you
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: want to call it as a follow. But like last week,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: does that translate anything or even matter coming into this week,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll have to wait and see. I'm
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: not really doing that for a lot of the guys.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: I'm looking more at it as what this week is,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: the style of event, the strength the field, What do
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: you really need to build a roster? I don't know,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Like there's there's just so many other guys down here
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: if you were going that range. So we'll have to wait. See.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: I thought, like, who's the other guy? If?
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: If?
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess my point is more if you
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: were doing that, Like what did what did Adam Hadwin
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: end up finishing at.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Good his way up there? Yeah he had a great
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: fourth round.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I feel like there was other dudes down here,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: This said Danny McCarthy sixteenth, like Bez fourth, Burger second.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: So again it's gonna be spread out. How many of
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: these guys you actually need to get to We'll have
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: to wait and see when the time comes. But I
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: think just in general, you know, if if any of
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: these guys are going to gravitate to like double digits
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: or more, you know, like for example, the Woodlands and
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: the guys like that maybe in the higher stakes, then
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: I think you look to make a move on him,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: just because there's gonna be guys around them that are
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: literally one percent that I don't I just don't see
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: that big of a difference. If you need to make
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: that move, go ahead, But I don't know how much
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: you're actually gonna need this range this week a ton
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: when you've got the loaded seven k range and the
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: upper six is versus the sorry talking about the bottom
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: six k range. Just I just don't see a lot
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: of the need at least right now.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The only guy I think has a chance to
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: get a decent bit of ownership is Gary Woodland because
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: we've seen it. He's kind of surprised us with his
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: ownership in a couple events where the rosters lock and
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh shit, Like Gary Woodland, is this percent
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: own so, and he's been playing well for three straight weeks,
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: so I think he's the guy that could get it
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: down here and kind of steam up in terms of ownership.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed. I think it's definitely a high possibility, and
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: it makes sense. Looks like it on paper as well
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: a little bit. But does seem like more people want
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: to be in that lower seven k range as much
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: as they can with the Postton's Sea Wou's Batias. Even
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: you know, Spawn hurt some feelings last week, and people
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: know it was just an illness, so it's possible that
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: they go back Little Davis Thompson right there at seven k.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: He was getting played a ton of showdown Berger sixty
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: nine hundred and the upper sixes. McCarthy bez like you said, So,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: I think it's it's woodland and up. It's more what
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: you do with the guys below them. We've got what
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: do we got total? With Nap getting at it looks
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: like twenty two golfers below Obviously Tiger withdrew at sixty
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: three hundred, but Nap got added in at almost nothing.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: So I think Stone minimum right six k, he said, yeah,
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: six k, Yeah, So there's options there. Patrick Rodgers. I
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: just I don't think they get steamed enough for it
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: to matter. Wept to wait and see, but I don't
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: see it as of right now. So I think some
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: of those other guys down there are interesting. How your
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: lineup construction goes, whether you're in or out on Scotty,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: whether you want more studs versus a balance build, all
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: of those factors and more will come down to what
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: people are actually looking for. And Nick wants to know.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: He's confused. Are you in or out on home a here?
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Oh definitely, And he doesn't have the confidence. It wasn't
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: a good mood though. I mean, he was playing like
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: absolute shit last week and you can see on the
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: teal as it looked like he was having a good time,
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: because I don't know if that's good or bad moving forward,
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: but he was. He played terrible and he was laughing
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: it up on the course. Maybe he just doesn't care.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: I'm definitely out out out out on Homa.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: It would be an optimal if it happened. I think
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: there's literally six Canadians right like, there's h Taylor, Connors, Pendris. Yeah,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: I don't even know.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Leave some money on the table, for sure, leave a
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: lot of money on the table.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: And Napp did have a good we I mean the
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: thing about Nap and Djens talked about the stann he'll
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: probably talk about it tomorrow night on the emergency stream too.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: But is you kind of want to play Nap in
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: these weaker fields. It's awesome for him as a player
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: on his journey to get into a field like this
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: and give himself some big money and an opportunity again,
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: but it's it's definitely a big boy field and that's
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: where we've seen Nap sort of struggle a bit more
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: versus in those weaker fields. He's sort of taking them
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: on and crushed. So, yeah, we've heard this. Have you
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: heard Naples a bouncer? Anything else? Hooper? If you guys
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: have anybody who you want us to look up, we'll
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: throw it up. I'll bring up the Djens notes. Anything
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: else you got to add, Hooper, any any extra thoughts?
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Not necessarily you know, again, roster construction is going to
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: be pretty big in terms of what people do. It's
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: kind of you know, I think a lot of people
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: end up playing this like a no cut event, and
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: you know, it's worked sometimes and it hasn't worked like
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it was it was. I know
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: it was definitely the first event like this last year.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Everyone just assumed was no cut and six or six
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: was like very very low. So I don't know. Yeah,
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: look up Naple right here because I'm curious, uh what
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: it does say about him, and I'm sure it does
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: say that he's better on weaker in weaker fields.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this was the Nico one they asked about. We'll
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: look up dun lap Row you you said nap right.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: I'm curious on that the what the notes are because
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: I didn't pay him last week.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Notes coming too, I can tell you already brackets up
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: here and say don't sleep on them, were staying here
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: for sure that like him better in weaker fields. I
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: can give you the early stuff that I already know
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: what's coming. But what are the notes on Homa will
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: might be broken correct? Has was a proven winner for
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: quite some of that. That's the funny thing about Homa
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: and Hobland, a couple of hose out there. Homa and
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Hobland were both at one point people were like going
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: off about them like these seasons and these people like
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: they're in credit. Like Hoblind they said he was gonna
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: win every major that year that that he started, remember
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: winning that run late the season before, so there was that,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: and then with Homa it was that run that he
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: went on, which obviously gives him that. But he has
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: done better in harder scoring conditions and long courses. It's
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: not a no cut, but you know, he's been fine
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: in these types of setups. Plays well on the coast
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: like this would be a spot. But it's kind of like,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: you know, get him in some of your lineups to
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: see how it goes. You know. That's that's what I
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: would look at. A done lap weaker, excels in weaker fields,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: below average on short courses, proven winner, all or nothing
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: type player, great for showdown. Yeah, that's about right. You
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: know what you're getting with a guy like him. I'll
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: do a few more. They said Rose was one they
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: wanted better at majors. Occasionally can still put together and showtown.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Not not a lot of crazy notes on Rose, but
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: obviously be able to still check him out on the scorecard,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: and then from a TFS perspective, the value of the
• 1:01:36
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• 1:01:39
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• 1:01:42
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• 1:01:45
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• 1:01:48
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• 1:01:50
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• 1:01:53
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• 1:01:55
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• 1:01:57
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• 1:01:59
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• 1:02:03
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• 1:02:05
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• 1:02:07
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• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: definitely something. Berger below average in round one from Florida,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: best on Bermuda might be back as elite this this
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: is definitely still live after what we just saw last week, right,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: might might be back in twenty twenty five. Too many
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: bogies in twenty twenty four. Definitely think that's possible. Who
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: else anybody else there?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: You saw speed? I'll look up speed.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Struggles on long courses, poetryvial. Yeah, I'm a Nick Taylor slut.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: There's a good one for you, grinder and in contention,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: So if we can get him into contention. It's definitely
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: possible Speed not play him until he proves he's not broken.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: What do you think the thought process would be on
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: that right now? What would you classify with speed right now?
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Between somewhat I'd say, I mean good event showed up.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, I haven't, you know, looked at the numbers,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: but I'm guessing there's probably speef esque where you know,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: a lot of putting and you know, chipping and that
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: sort of thing. But I'm, you know, for this week,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: like he's still broken to me for this week. Let's
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: put it that way.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: This is why Djen loved old rope hat at the
• 1:03:19
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• 1:03:21
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• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: Thomas Dietree last week as a sleeper, had Charlie Hopp
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: in the week he crushed. But the Harris English thought process,
• 1:03:29
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• 1:03:31
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• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: That's why he liked him here when he won the
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Farmers Strong on long courses, solid all around game par machine,
• 1:03:40
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• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: like Harris English still makes a ton of sense, not
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: because he won totally different than when he won the Farmers.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: It's more of these long par four's that you just
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: make your pars and move on and then hope that
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: the par fives go your favorite. Like there's they're still
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: hard to score on, but there there's more scoring on
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: the par fives obviously, so you can find your way
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: around and make that happen. He's seventy six hundred in
• 1:04:04
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• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: they go to we'll see if they go to Hovel
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: and Sam Stevens, Adam Scott Connors, some of those guys.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Harris English is right there. And again, oh he's not
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: gonna win again. It's not the same strength of field.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: It's totally different conditions. That's fine. He's seventy six hundred dollars.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: He does not he could be the last man in
• 1:04:22
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• 1:04:27
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• 1:04:29
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• 1:04:35
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• 1:04:37
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• 1:04:40
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• 1:04:42
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• 1:04:44
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• 1:04:47
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