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Jaguars Happy Hour: Wednesday, October 16 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. Mark were now
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Speaker 1: with a masterful run of twenty nine yards and the
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Speaker 1: cluck continues to run. It is Wednesday, October. This is
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars Happy Hours presented by the Fields
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Speaker 1: Auto Group. Hey now a guy whose current value is
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Speaker 1: to first and a third? J P. Shadrick, Welcome in
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour presented by the Fields Auto Group. J P.
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Speaker 1: Shadrick with John Osier, Jaguars dot Com Senior Writer. An
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Speaker 1: eventful day around here, Bud, what's up to? First? And
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Speaker 1: a third of what? I don't know? There's been a
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Speaker 1: few of those. Here's what we're getting to today. Of course,
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Speaker 1: Ramsey reaction day. The locker room just closed. We'll get
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Speaker 1: into what some of the guys had to say. We'll
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Speaker 1: review it. At least. Bengals Week is here. We're onto
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati players to watch uniform unveiling. Jimmy Luck doing to
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Speaker 1: join us and Chris Connley Jaguars Wide Recia. We will
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Speaker 1: bring a surprise guests. We don't know who it's going
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Speaker 1: to be, but we always like that. It's it kind
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Speaker 1: of keeps us on our toes. He's doing a great
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Speaker 1: job with that, and I'm sure whoever it is will
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Speaker 1: be insightful. So today was Jalen Ramsey Day around here. Started,
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Speaker 1: of course, last night, with the trade for two first
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Speaker 1: round picks and a fourth round pick, a first round
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Speaker 1: pick each of the next two drafts. The fourth round
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Speaker 1: pick is draft to the Los Angeles Rams. Jale Ramsey
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Speaker 1: is gone. We just got out of the locker room
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Speaker 1: a little while ago, and I guess that for me,
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Speaker 1: the tone was it wasn't really bashing of Jalen. It was, hey,
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Speaker 1: we're sorry to see him go, but it's a business.
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Speaker 1: We're moving on and here we go to the Bengals
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Speaker 1: this week. That was what I got. For most of
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Speaker 1: the it was the tone you would expect. I mean,
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Speaker 1: there is a there's an acknowledgement among players that players
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Speaker 1: it's fraternity. They know that guys have to do what
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Speaker 1: they need to do. I think there's also an element
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Speaker 1: not spoken a whole lot among the guys of you know,
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Speaker 1: if if if a guy doesn't want to be here,
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Speaker 1: if if if he doesn't want to fight this fight
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Speaker 1: with us, Uh, you know they're not going to get
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Speaker 1: real emotional when somebody who doesn't want to be here.
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Speaker 1: It leaves Uh, there's emotion in this game when a
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Speaker 1: guy who's out there fighting for them and with them
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Speaker 1: gets hurt if he can't be there for reasons not
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Speaker 1: of his own accord. But um, you know, Jalen made
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Speaker 1: it clear three or four weeks ago that he didn't
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Speaker 1: want to be here. Uh. He made it clear after
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Speaker 1: the Week three game against Houston that he didn't want
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Speaker 1: to play for this team. Uh. And he said right
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Speaker 1: after that that he loves his teammates, but the reality
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Speaker 1: is he didn't want to play with him and that
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Speaker 1: reflects on how he and how he felt about them
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Speaker 1: as well. They didn't verbalize that. UM. I asked a
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Speaker 1: couple of players about that, and they are surprised he
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Speaker 1: didn't want to go there, But um, I think there
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Speaker 1: is an element of the team if you know what.
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Speaker 1: We didn't want him gone. We're better with him. But
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Speaker 1: there were gonna be no sheep, no tears shed over
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Speaker 1: a guy who made it clear weeks ago that he
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Speaker 1: didn't want to be here and didn't want to be
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Speaker 1: with them. Yeah. Time to time move on and and
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Speaker 1: play some football and get back on track. Tom Coughlin
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Speaker 1: made a statement today and put it out and through
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars PR department about the trade, and you have
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Speaker 1: it on the screen and you've seen it all over
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Speaker 1: social media today. That's the only thing we've heard from
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Speaker 1: the upper management for the Jaguars. They we heard from
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars owner of course, shot Con a little later
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Speaker 1: in the day. He's down at the owner's meetings down
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Speaker 1: South today. UM Doug Brone spoke with the media today
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Speaker 1: on his regular Wednesday press conference, But as we always
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Speaker 1: hear from Doug, there's only so much he can say
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Speaker 1: about the nuts and bolts of the actual transaction. He's
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Speaker 1: worried about the guys that are here ready to go
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Speaker 1: on Sunday. He wanted Jailen here. He made clear of that,
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Speaker 1: and any coach would. And I think Doug and a
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Speaker 1: couple of his comments today made clear that he felt
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Speaker 1: like he had reached out after the incident in Houston.
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Speaker 1: Uh that relationship, if it even needed mending. I don't
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Speaker 1: know that that was a mending situation, although he got
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Speaker 1: played up that way. I never got the idea from
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Speaker 1: listening to or from listening to Jaalen, if there was
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Speaker 1: bad blood conflict there beyond your normal I'm the coach,
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Speaker 1: you're the player. Sometimes I'm gonna have to get on, etcetera, etcetera.
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Speaker 1: All reports are that whatever bad blood there was was
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Speaker 1: from Jalen towards the front office. I assume that means Tom.
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Speaker 1: Uh So at some point that got to a point
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Speaker 1: where Jalen, I guess, didn't feel like he could play
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Speaker 1: for the organization. And I still wonder, uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: to me, there's still an element of Tom must have
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Speaker 1: said something to Jalen about the behavior in Houston. I
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Speaker 1: think everybody who saw the behavior in Houston couldn't have
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Speaker 1: said that it was good behavior on Jalen's part. So
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Speaker 1: I'm assuming that there was some sort of reprimand of
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Speaker 1: you can't do that anymore that Jalen didn't like. And
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Speaker 1: I can only assume all this because nobody's going to
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Speaker 1: talk about it. But that's putting the pieces together. UM.
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Speaker 1: And to me, frankly, if if if a player can't
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Speaker 1: live with being told that those actions were wrong, then
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Speaker 1: I don't know how you ever approached that player and
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Speaker 1: tell him he was out of line again and again. JP.
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Speaker 1: In this life, not everybody's perfect. I know you you're
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Speaker 1: not perfect, um, but people have to be able to
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Speaker 1: be told that a certain situation is out a line.
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Speaker 1: They told Leonard Fronette publicly last year he was out
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Speaker 1: of line, and he has come back. And I think
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Speaker 1: Leonard would tell you, and I believe he said this
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Speaker 1: that he's better for it. He learned from his situation. UM.
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Speaker 1: I get the impression right now from Jalen Ramsey actions
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Speaker 1: right now he can't be told that he was ever wrong. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know, even as great a player as
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Speaker 1: he was, I don't know how you coach that and
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Speaker 1: how you move forward that in your building. I frankly
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Speaker 1: don't know how the Rams will deal with that. But
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Speaker 1: that's not our issue anymore. Let's take a look at
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Speaker 1: the recent draft history of that of the Jacksonville Jaguars
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Speaker 1: in the first round, and we could go back even
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Speaker 1: further if you but why you know, we started in
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Speaker 1: when the ownership changed. Here and you see the first
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Speaker 1: round draft picks of each year and where they are now,
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Speaker 1: and of course fourteen fifteen, sixteen draft picks are all
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Speaker 1: where in Los Angeles Rams uniforms the last three are here,
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Speaker 1: and even previous to this, you know Blaine Gabbert's not here.
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Speaker 1: Obviously he's he's gone, and then a lot of guys
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Speaker 1: aren't in the league anymore or out or moved on.
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Speaker 1: Mercedes Lewis is in Green Bay. But really I think
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Speaker 1: Blaine and Mercedes before this or the only two still playing,
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Speaker 1: or Tyson and while I was still playing. But that's
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Speaker 1: that's really it. But they're not here. That's the issue.
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Speaker 1: Know a lot of these that's how you you build
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Speaker 1: up your draft, your first round, second, third round guys,
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Speaker 1: you keep them in the building. And that just hasn't
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Speaker 1: happened over time here. Yeah, and uh, you know, the
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Speaker 1: Jalen is is clearly so much different than the others,
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Speaker 1: the others, uh, Dante, I don't think it was a
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Speaker 1: bad pick. I think he just wasn't going to be
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Speaker 1: a guy who who was going to resign because they
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Speaker 1: had players in the position he hadn't lived up to
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Speaker 1: that first round draft or that top three status. Uh
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Speaker 1: you know, Jalen clearly wasn't a miss. Uh you know,
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Speaker 1: I think Jalen just got to the point where, for
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Speaker 1: whatever weird reason, didn't want to be here. But clearly
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Speaker 1: you have to have more first round picks in the
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Speaker 1: building over the course of time to be a perennial
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Speaker 1: playoff team right now. They haven't been in that charts
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Speaker 1: a big reason why. Um. I think the the counter
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Speaker 1: to that is they have draft did well in some
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Speaker 1: other rounds. It's not like there is there is no productivity,
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Speaker 1: productivity from drafts here in the building. But you're going forward.
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Speaker 1: It's obviously if if in a similar chart reads the
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Speaker 1: same and there's no uh, if if Josh Allen doesn't
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Speaker 1: work out, if h let's just first round pick Tabor,
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Speaker 1: if all these guys continue to not work out, then
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Speaker 1: you're always and you're usually going to be down frontline
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Speaker 1: performing talent. And uh, that's the reality of it. They've
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Speaker 1: got to do better retaining it. That's always the goal,
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Speaker 1: and that charts the reason why there's been one playoff
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Speaker 1: appearance in the last ten years. It's hard to to
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Speaker 1: predict what happened with Jalen. I mean you can't really.
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Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it. I understand quite like it. Again,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I know there's fans who are criticizing
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Speaker 1: quote unquote how the team handled Jalen Um and I
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Speaker 1: guess that's fair criticism because he's not here, so you're
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Speaker 1: gonna have that criticism based on what we know, think,
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Speaker 1: we know, have seen actions wise, I don't know how
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Speaker 1: you handle that. You know, I've said several times a
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Speaker 1: day on the air in different forms, um I got,
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Speaker 1: I got a question. And I was thinking about the
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Speaker 1: concept last night of what advice would you give the
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Speaker 1: Rams and how to handle Jalen Ramsey And unfortunately, and
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Speaker 1: and I really, for three years I enjoyed covering Jalen.
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Speaker 1: I liked being a reporter covered I was entertaining. I
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Speaker 1: didn't think until the last month that he had been
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Speaker 1: I thought until the last month he had been more
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Speaker 1: positive than negative, clearly. But the only answer seems to
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Speaker 1: be you can't do anything to make him unhappy, meaning
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Speaker 1: you can't a call defenses that he doesn't like because
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Speaker 1: he's publicly said he doesn't like that and that's bothered him.
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Speaker 1: And you can't tell him that a behavior was out
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Speaker 1: of line. Well, once you get to that point, I
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Speaker 1: don't know how you manage it. So maybe he'll be
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Speaker 1: different in l A. Maybe he'll be so happy in
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Speaker 1: the sunshine with state tax that he's happy. And Giddyon
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Speaker 1: isn't bothered by those things. But the only reference that
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Speaker 1: we have is that he was bothered by those things.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know how you manage that if those
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Speaker 1: things are going to set you off, because those things
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Speaker 1: happened at every NFL team. Well, football is not like
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Speaker 1: the NBA, meaning in the NBA, a couple of players
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Speaker 1: can sort of run the organization. That doesn't work in football.
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Speaker 1: In football, at some point, when you've got twenty two guys,
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Speaker 1: at some point, things have to happen that aren't individually
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Speaker 1: promoting one player or the other, unless that player is
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Speaker 1: a quarterback. Now, if he's a quarterback, it's different, but
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Speaker 1: you can't bend the whole organization toward a non quarterback position.
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Speaker 1: And it it felt like that's what Jalen wanted and needed,
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Speaker 1: and uh, I think that works. So it it's not
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Speaker 1: gonna work here, and I will see if it works
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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles Jaguars happy hour. Let's move on to
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Speaker 1: the quarterback. Speaking of Gardner, Minshew the second spoke with
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars media today and coming off worst outing for
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Speaker 1: him at least this season in his rookie year fourteen
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Speaker 1: ninety three yards, this is our first chance to see
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Speaker 1: how he bounces back from a rough outing on the field,
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Speaker 1: and the tone hasn't changed for him. He still seems
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Speaker 1: like the same guy he has been at least talking
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Speaker 1: to him today, and you have to think that that's
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Speaker 1: a good sign for the offense. Yeah, and he wasn't
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Speaker 1: really asked specifically, And I almost asked it, and I
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Speaker 1: wasn't quite sure how to phrase it in the right way,
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Speaker 1: so I didn't. But you know, how do you bounce
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Speaker 1: back from this? And does your approach change? And there
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Speaker 1: really wasn't a sort of asking the area. Um, and
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Speaker 1: it it's so short term what happened. He's not gonna
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Speaker 1: be able to prove that he's a franchise guy in
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Speaker 1: one week. Uh, just as he couldn't prove in four
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Speaker 1: games that he was a franchise guy. And the process
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Speaker 1: of getting over the New Orleans game, that's not really
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Speaker 1: how it works. It's it's a process of over time,
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Speaker 1: teams will throw things at a young quarterback, and over
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Speaker 1: time you have to learn how to deal with that
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Speaker 1: and how to move on and get through it and
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Speaker 1: know what you're seeing. So it's not really a question.
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Speaker 1: Just as it couldn't be asked today, it's not going
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Speaker 1: to be able to be answered in one week, I guess,
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Speaker 1: is my point. And everybody wants to know that there
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Speaker 1: was excitement that he was a franchise guy for the
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Speaker 1: first four weeks and then he had a bad game,
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Speaker 1: and now he's not, and they want to know now
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Speaker 1: is he going to be a franchise guy? How he
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Speaker 1: plays in Cincinnati will decide that. And the problem in
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Speaker 1: this day and age is there's six days between NFL games,
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Speaker 1: and he used to have six days of writing in
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Speaker 1: the newspaper about it and sort of calmness. Now you've
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Speaker 1: got six days of Twitter and instant analysis, and everybody
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Speaker 1: wants to have it take saying this is the guy,
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Speaker 1: this isn't the guy. Um So everybody wants to play
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Speaker 1: off one game and make these huge, swathing decisions over
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Speaker 1: a guy's career. It's not going to be that way
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Speaker 1: for Gardener, just as it wasn't that way for Nick Foles,
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Speaker 1: wasn't that way for Peyton Manning's rook year. When they
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Speaker 1: wait for Aaron Rodgers in his third year, this is
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Speaker 1: gonna play out. I think he's gonna be okay. I
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Speaker 1: think he's gonna be good. And how he responds to
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Speaker 1: all this over the next two or three weeks will
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Speaker 1: be the first indications of how good. But we're not
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Speaker 1: going to have the ultimate answer, just as we couldn't
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Speaker 1: ask the ultimate question day of him. I couldn't stand
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Speaker 1: there and say, hey, Gardner, are you gonna be a franchise?
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Speaker 1: Guys gonna happen on Sunday. That's what everybody sort of
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Speaker 1: wants to know, But that answer isn't available yet. It
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Speaker 1: would help if the Jags can still consistently run the football.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I think to write right there lasting
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Speaker 1: the league against the run, They're They're enormously lasting the
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Speaker 1: leagu against run. They are as bad as anybody's been
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Speaker 1: over the last few games. Yeah, they've got some issues
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Speaker 1: going on there. But Leonard, even last week it was
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Speaker 1: there were times where he was running well, but they
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Speaker 1: just couldn't get to the point where they could run enough,
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Speaker 1: you know, And that's what they need to be doing,
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Speaker 1: is getting those third downs, keeping drives alive. They had
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Speaker 1: a lot of three and ounce early in the game.
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Speaker 1: They couldn't really establish anything. Last week, still had seventy
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Speaker 1: two yards forty six in the receiving yards, So I mean,
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Speaker 1: a pretty good day at the office for Leonard. But
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Speaker 1: this feels like a game where you can really make
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Speaker 1: hay in the running game. Yeah, and that's always uh,
14:50
Speaker 1: it's always dangerous in this league to say, well, this
14:53
Speaker 1: team's starting gets the ruin. We want to run, so
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Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to run, because usually teams can
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Speaker 1: take that away if they want to, even if they're
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Speaker 1: bad against the run, they can if they know what
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Speaker 1: you want to do, they can slow it down enough
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Speaker 1: where it's not gonna be this monster game. I don't
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Speaker 1: expect four yards rushing against. Uh. The Bengals interesting about
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Speaker 1: the running game to me, though. JP was listening to
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Speaker 1: Doug on Monday when he talked to the media. Doug's
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Speaker 1: usually not one two come out and make bold statements
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Speaker 1: if he really doesn't believe it. And he talked a
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Speaker 1: couple of questions on Monday about liking where he thinks
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Speaker 1: they're going with the running game. He feels like they're
15:34
Speaker 1: much better than they were early in the season. He
15:36
Speaker 1: likes what he's seeing it out of the blocking. When
15:38
Speaker 1: breakdowns happen, it's only one or two things. It's not
15:41
Speaker 1: like the entire play is breaking. Now when they're watching film,
15:45
Speaker 1: they can see things going in the right direction. I
15:48
Speaker 1: don't know what that will mean for the Bengals game.
15:50
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna beat the Bengals because I don't
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Speaker 1: think Bengals are very good right now. I don't know
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Speaker 1: what it will mean for the running game in that game,
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Speaker 1: but what you heard him say could bode well, especially
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Speaker 1: when you combine find it with how Leonard's running. I
16:02
Speaker 1: think they feel like the running game has a chance
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Speaker 1: to get going and be something really productive. This time
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Speaker 1: last year, it would have been hard to say that
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Speaker 1: because Leonard was hurt, he was balky on the hamstring
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Speaker 1: all year, and they had so many offensive line injuries.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure last year they ever got to a
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Speaker 1: point of feeling out like they were close to being
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Speaker 1: what they wanted to be in that area. This year,
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Speaker 1: you feel like they are, which could be one of
16:28
Speaker 1: those hidden things that we're talking about in a few weeks.
16:31
Speaker 1: Hey remember when they thought they were close, turns out
16:34
Speaker 1: they were right. It's it's an area to watch over
16:36
Speaker 1: the next month. Jaguars defense, Obviously the spotlight will be
16:41
Speaker 1: on the secondary moving ahead here. Trey Herndon will fill
16:44
Speaker 1: in that spot that Jayala Ramsey vacates. But you got
16:48
Speaker 1: a j Boye on the other side, who has been
16:49
Speaker 1: around here for a few years now. And then the
16:51
Speaker 1: safety is on the back end, and they feel confident,
16:55
Speaker 1: at least they say they're confident they can go out
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Speaker 1: there and play as a unit. Yeah, there's I mean,
17:01
Speaker 1: there are some pieces there. It's just as a J.
17:04
Speaker 1: Boys sat in the locker room today, so striking that
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Speaker 1: a J talked about seeing a picture of the two
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Speaker 1: thousand seventeen secondary He said he saw one this morning
17:13
Speaker 1: and he was talking about a c. Aaron Colvin Buried
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Speaker 1: Church gift. I mean, the the tightness of that group, Um,
17:23
Speaker 1: the production, the energy that it felt when it came together. Uh. Boy,
17:28
Speaker 1: times changed in the NFL fast, and now they've got
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Speaker 1: a group that very unproven at at best. You haven't
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Speaker 1: added up to start. When you add up Ronnie Harrison starts, Uh,
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Speaker 1: Trey Herndon's and Will Jared Wilson's, I'm not sure they
17:45
Speaker 1: even get to sixteen total. If they do, it's close.
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Speaker 1: So you're talking about three really either rookies, young guys
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Speaker 1: in experience with boy a. Um. Yeah, the best player
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Speaker 1: in secondary is probably j Haydn right now. And uh,
17:59
Speaker 1: you know, so there are pieces but to me, it's
18:03
Speaker 1: really up to a Miles jack and Good to continue
18:08
Speaker 1: getting better linebacker and then this going into this season,
18:15
Speaker 1: the strength of this team is supposed to be the
18:16
Speaker 1: defensive line. It hasn't played to that yet clearly. For
18:21
Speaker 1: the for the next four or five games to be
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Speaker 1: what this team needs, which is to win three or
18:27
Speaker 1: four and get back into it, the defensive line has
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Speaker 1: to be what we thought it was gonna be before
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Speaker 1: the season and what it really hasn't been so far.
18:35
Speaker 1: Quick look at the Cincinnati Bengals, of course, oh and six.
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Speaker 1: They have struggled to do much on either side of
18:41
Speaker 1: the ball really, I mean especially on the defensive side.
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Speaker 1: Their last league against the run, they struggle in the
18:47
Speaker 1: run game. On offense, they do throw the ball around
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Speaker 1: a little bit, but the near the bottom of most
18:53
Speaker 1: any statistical category. So that's six games it stats all that.
18:59
Speaker 1: They will have the quarterback right, Andy Dalton. How well
19:05
Speaker 1: is he playing, that's up for debate. But um, he's
19:09
Speaker 1: been there for a while now. He's been the guy
19:10
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati for a number of years. This which is May.
19:14
Speaker 1: I mean he was drafted I believe the year I
19:17
Speaker 1: got back to Jacksonville two thousand and eleven, and I
19:21
Speaker 1: remember writing stories when I first got back about Dot
19:23
Speaker 1: Dalton in the draft, and I would the Jaguars take
19:26
Speaker 1: him if he was available in the second round. Uh,
19:28
Speaker 1: they might up taking Blaine Gabbert in the first, so
19:30
Speaker 1: that I went out the window. But um, he was
19:33
Speaker 1: the guy a lot of Jaguars fans sort of liked,
19:34
Speaker 1: and you know as a second round pick. I've been
19:36
Speaker 1: a very good player throughout his career. Uh, three Pro Bowls. Yeah,
19:40
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's what you want. Um. The Bengals
19:43
Speaker 1: right now are your prototypical first year coach rebuild team.
19:50
Speaker 1: They've been close a few times. Uh, the record is
19:53
Speaker 1: probably a little worse than the actual team. They've had
19:55
Speaker 1: three games, Uh, could have slashed, should have won. So
20:00
Speaker 1: I don't think they're a team that's gonna go winless.
20:02
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna push that envelope. At some
20:05
Speaker 1: point they're gonna get one. So in that sense, they're
20:08
Speaker 1: dangerous because you're going to Cincinnati if you're the Jaguars,
20:12
Speaker 1: and if you lose this one to meet, the season
20:14
Speaker 1: is done. I mean, I don't think you come back
20:16
Speaker 1: from this because that puts you at two and five
20:22
Speaker 1: and the a f C lost and then even if
20:23
Speaker 1: you win these next two before the bye, you're still
20:25
Speaker 1: only four and five. This is one that gets snowing
20:28
Speaker 1: six team. Oh in six team that you have to win. Uh.
20:32
Speaker 1: They're beat up. They're not doing very well against what
20:36
Speaker 1: you think you do well, which is runs. So uh,
20:40
Speaker 1: you know, boy, this is one they need. It's kind
20:44
Speaker 1: of obvious. But to me, when you looked at the
20:46
Speaker 1: season once Foals got hurt, I thought they needed to
20:50
Speaker 1: get to five and four. But when I did all
20:52
Speaker 1: that math, three of those five wins I was talking about,
20:56
Speaker 1: we're in the next three weeks, So these are the
20:58
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21:01
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21:03
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Speaker 1: Audio on my phone, j V. Don't up that thing,
23:17
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Speaker 1: A good idea. Let's take a look at the a
23:24
Speaker 1: f C South standings. The order has not changed over
23:27
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. In BacT Houston is playing
23:29
Speaker 1: some good football, so they're up at the top of
23:31
Speaker 1: the division. Now forward to Indie three and two. They
23:35
Speaker 1: were off last week, the Jags and the Titans two
23:39
Speaker 1: and four, and the Jags have that one division win
23:42
Speaker 1: and one division loss to get ahead of Tennessee at
23:45
Speaker 1: the bottom of the division. Games coming up this week,
23:48
Speaker 1: there are a few in this division that will be
23:53
Speaker 1: certainly of interest to watch, starting of course, with the
23:56
Speaker 1: Jaguars Bengals game one o'clock kick off, and say Sonaty,
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Speaker 1: the Texans at the Colts and this should be a
24:02
Speaker 1: pretty good football game at Lucas Oil Stadium. The Chargers
24:06
Speaker 1: visit Nashville to face the Titans at two and four
24:09
Speaker 1: Texas Colts game. This is one of those where the
24:13
Speaker 1: culture coming off of by and they're at home and
24:17
Speaker 1: here we go. It should be a good one. Somebody's
24:19
Speaker 1: gotta win, and somebody's gotta lose JP or they could tie,
24:21
Speaker 1: They can tie, or they get tied. Uh. You know,
24:27
Speaker 1: I feel like and I feel like it's before the
24:29
Speaker 1: season emails over the offseason. You like me saying it.
24:34
Speaker 1: I felt all along like the Texans were the best
24:36
Speaker 1: team in the division, like they're especially once the luck retired.
24:40
Speaker 1: They were the team you had to beat. Uh. And
24:42
Speaker 1: as much as people don't like hearing that around here,
24:44
Speaker 1: they keep winding up in the playoffs and and and
24:48
Speaker 1: they keep being tough for this team to beat me
24:50
Speaker 1: and the Jaguars. So until they prove you differently than
24:54
Speaker 1: they're still the team you have to be. I think
24:56
Speaker 1: they're good. I think Shaun Watson's having a good year.
24:58
Speaker 1: Uh So I expect to go win that game because
25:01
Speaker 1: I still think at some point the Colts have a
25:04
Speaker 1: very good roster. Uh there's gonna be games this year.
25:07
Speaker 1: I feel like they will lose that they would have
25:10
Speaker 1: won head luck been there. That still has to bite
25:12
Speaker 1: them a little bit. So like there's probably one of
25:14
Speaker 1: those games that bites them. It's not a little call
25:17
Speaker 1: thank you. The Chargers coming all the way to to Nashville, Um,
25:21
Speaker 1: and they're just to beat up football team and things
25:23
Speaker 1: in l A Are weird, and but they're going on
25:25
Speaker 1: the road in Tennessee has their own issues. They had
25:27
Speaker 1: to put Mariota on the side. Yeah, the Chargers, Um,
25:31
Speaker 1: you know, one of the NFL's great mysteries right now,
25:35
Speaker 1: uh the injuries of Hurt. I'm still surprised that with
25:39
Speaker 1: Philip Riers a quarterback, that they're struggling to this degree
25:41
Speaker 1: at two and four. But for them, it's you know,
25:44
Speaker 1: you're going against a team play and a half to
25:47
Speaker 1: you feel like the Charges that go in that because
25:49
Speaker 1: of the mess of the Titans quarterback position. Uh, and
25:52
Speaker 1: you would certainly think that Philip Rivers goes across the
25:54
Speaker 1: country and not wins that. I can't see the Chargers
25:57
Speaker 1: sliding out of it early this year, although they're getting close.
26:01
Speaker 1: They're on the way, I guess. Right now, let's get
26:04
Speaker 1: to our players to watch for the Jaguars this Sunday. UM.
26:08
Speaker 1: We usually pick one side of the um. One from
26:11
Speaker 1: each side of the ball is usually how we do it. John,
26:13
Speaker 1: would you like to get a start? Sometimes it's two
26:15
Speaker 1: from one side of the ball, but depends on what
26:17
Speaker 1: we're feeling that week. Yeah, let's flash the graphic up there.
26:20
Speaker 1: Second yours it's icly who I pick him way to
26:23
Speaker 1: order for net. To me is the most interesting story
26:31
Speaker 1: in the team this year in the way that he
26:32
Speaker 1: has responded to what happened last season. And I get
26:36
Speaker 1: the worst sort of past that storyline. But he's to
26:39
Speaker 1: the point now where he is the most reliable, uh,
26:44
Speaker 1: a solid player on the offense, and to the point
26:47
Speaker 1: where I think if he doesn't have sixty eight yards
26:51
Speaker 1: in that range, then the offenses there's a lot of trouble.
26:54
Speaker 1: He's got in the point where you expect that out
26:56
Speaker 1: of him again. I would expect that he has a
26:58
Speaker 1: big game this week. Considering the angles are struggling, I
27:01
Speaker 1: don't know it's gonna be two yard game. But considering
27:04
Speaker 1: all things we talked about earlier in the show, as well,
27:07
Speaker 1: as they feel like they're getting to running the ball,
27:10
Speaker 1: I'm sure they will try it with him. They feel
27:12
Speaker 1: like they should have some success with him. And again
27:15
Speaker 1: he's gotten to the point where he is a key
27:19
Speaker 1: to the offense again every week. You hoped last year
27:23
Speaker 1: that he would be. You kept waiting for it. You
27:24
Speaker 1: couldn't feel confident in it. Earlier this year you weren't
27:29
Speaker 1: sure about it. Now he's proven that he's back where
27:31
Speaker 1: he belongs in that category. He's been speaking on Thursdays,
27:35
Speaker 1: and I cannot wait for Tomorrow's just to see his
27:37
Speaker 1: response to everything that happened with Jalen and the social
27:41
Speaker 1: media post the last couple of days, if you're into that,
27:44
Speaker 1: and he's just been a pleasure to to hear talk
27:46
Speaker 1: on Thursdays in general anyway, So with all this happening,
27:49
Speaker 1: I think it really fun tomorrow. Yeah, and he has
27:52
Speaker 1: I haven't talked to him about it for a story specifically,
27:54
Speaker 1: but he's been interesting. I've heard a couple of different
27:56
Speaker 1: things he said about leadership, and uh, I think people
28:01
Speaker 1: are surprised. I'm a little surprised at how much he
28:05
Speaker 1: has accepted that role. Maybe the word is embraced, you
28:09
Speaker 1: know this year been willing and acknowledging. Uh. There's certain
28:14
Speaker 1: dynamic when guys are getting approach in the locker room
28:16
Speaker 1: after a game. Some guys don't like doing it, don't
28:19
Speaker 1: want to do it, but the veteran leaders on the team,
28:22
Speaker 1: you've been in this environment before where even after a loss,
28:26
Speaker 1: you know there's there's sort of a deep sigh, Okay,
28:28
Speaker 1: I've got to go do it. Leonard has never this
28:31
Speaker 1: year once tried to act as if it's as if
28:35
Speaker 1: he's not going to speak after a game. He acknowledges
28:38
Speaker 1: that it's his role and and he needs to be
28:41
Speaker 1: a guy standing up and uh, you know, you know,
28:45
Speaker 1: taking on that responsibility. And I think the last December,
28:48
Speaker 1: you'd have been shocked if he would have if I
28:53
Speaker 1: had told you he was going to be a guy
28:54
Speaker 1: who was willing to do that and felt like that
28:57
Speaker 1: was his role and felt it was important. Not much
29:01
Speaker 1: felt important to him last year, or it didn't feel
29:04
Speaker 1: from reserving like he felt much was important. And this
29:07
Speaker 1: year he's taking a lot of responsibility for those things.
29:09
Speaker 1: And as I said multiple times, it's a remarkable turnaround
29:13
Speaker 1: because it feels real. It feels like something that he
29:17
Speaker 1: understands and has grown into. And it's cool to see,
29:21
Speaker 1: especially when you saw something not quite so cool develop
29:24
Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball. And I'm talking
29:27
Speaker 1: thank you if you missed that ever, thank you. Um
29:31
Speaker 1: your other player to watch this week, sir? On defense,
29:34
Speaker 1: he's a rookie. He's on the defensive line. Oh, Josh, Yes,
29:39
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I was. I had. I've been considering discussing
29:43
Speaker 1: Trey Herndon here and I thought it was too obvious. Uh,
29:47
Speaker 1: Josh Allen because everything going on with Jalen and because
29:52
Speaker 1: they've been losing, I think it's been almost lost a
29:54
Speaker 1: little bit. How well he's playing, how consistent he's been,
30:00
Speaker 1: and how reliable he's been for a rookie. You know me, JP,
30:02
Speaker 1: I'm usually whatever you get out of a rookie, no
30:04
Speaker 1: matter what it is, pure gravy. Josh shows up every week.
30:11
Speaker 1: He seems to be developing very quickly in terms of
30:15
Speaker 1: having reliable pass rush moves, in terms of knowing what
30:18
Speaker 1: he needs to do succeed. Uh. It's it's too bad
30:23
Speaker 1: for him that they're not four and it's too bad
30:25
Speaker 1: for everybody they're not four in too, But it's too
30:27
Speaker 1: bad for him that they're not four and two because
30:29
Speaker 1: I think his production and his uh preparedness or his
30:37
Speaker 1: ability to play well early would be more acknowledged. I
30:40
Speaker 1: think he's getting lost because the Jaguars record and be
30:42
Speaker 1: surprised at this point if he didn't have eight or
30:44
Speaker 1: nine sex by the end of the year. And he
30:46
Speaker 1: sure looks like a guy who is uh everything they
30:49
Speaker 1: wanted him to be. I expect him this week against
30:52
Speaker 1: Cincinnati to have a couple of game breaking type plays,
30:55
Speaker 1: if it's not a sack bumble, to get some pressures
30:58
Speaker 1: that matter, because that's what he's been doing. You've got
31:00
Speaker 1: for Nette and Josh Allen my two guys to watch
31:03
Speaker 1: this week. Let's start with a j boyer in the secondary,
31:06
Speaker 1: and then we've mentioned earlier with Jayale Ramsey now traded
31:09
Speaker 1: to the Los Angeles Rams. He's kind of the guy
31:13
Speaker 1: on the outside seventh NFL season, now third with the Jags,
31:17
Speaker 1: and you see what he's done this year. He's had
31:19
Speaker 1: a couple of moments this year where he kind of
31:22
Speaker 1: looked like the guy from two years ago where he
31:25
Speaker 1: was a second team All Pro and I had a
31:28
Speaker 1: fantastic season as part of that great secondary two years ago. Uh,
31:32
Speaker 1: there's there's been some of those moments. He battled through
31:34
Speaker 1: the hip thing early in the year. I think now
31:38
Speaker 1: I don't want to call it his secondary, but it
31:41
Speaker 1: darn close, right, And it's probably fair to acknowledge that
31:47
Speaker 1: he was hurt a lot last year, and when guys
31:50
Speaker 1: don't talk about it, sometimes that gets lost and you
31:53
Speaker 1: just start of say what that same player they were. Uh,
31:56
Speaker 1: sometimes we forget how much injuries matter because this is
31:59
Speaker 1: a physical game, or if you're not underprestenting to be
32:01
Speaker 1: hard to play it. And looking back, he was probably
32:05
Speaker 1: pretty hampered with that and probably get some criticism last
32:08
Speaker 1: year that uh, you know fair and fran and know
32:11
Speaker 1: what that means. But but probably would not have gotten
32:13
Speaker 1: it had not been injured. So I agree with you
32:16
Speaker 1: he's key going forward because now I don't know that
32:19
Speaker 1: he's a takeaway the side of the field guy like
32:21
Speaker 1: Jalen was, but they're gonna ask him to do that
32:23
Speaker 1: a little bit and you know if if if he
32:26
Speaker 1: can do that, they're that much better. Jowan Taylor offensive
32:29
Speaker 1: line my other player to watch this week. If they're
32:32
Speaker 1: gonna run the football, well he would you have a
32:35
Speaker 1: big hand in that. You know what happened last week,
32:37
Speaker 1: Cam Jordan got him a couple of times. Rookie right tackle,
32:41
Speaker 1: that will happen from time to time, but he has
32:42
Speaker 1: been a solid player so far for the Jags, trying
32:45
Speaker 1: to work on the penalties and and get that toned
32:48
Speaker 1: down that happens with a young player as well sometimes.
32:51
Speaker 1: So I like him a right tackle obviously, the Jaguars
32:54
Speaker 1: like him there, and I think for this week's success,
32:58
Speaker 1: I think Joan is gonna have a nice game. All
33:00
Speaker 1: right tackle has been has become a tough spot and
33:05
Speaker 1: because of this, in the old days or you never
33:09
Speaker 1: put your pass rusher over the right tack corrut. So
33:12
Speaker 1: a lot of times guys would be you draft your
33:15
Speaker 1: left tackle in the first round and usually got your
33:17
Speaker 1: right tackle in the second or third round, and you
33:21
Speaker 1: could start him because he wasn't gonna play the best
33:23
Speaker 1: pass rusher and you didn't get exposed when now guys
33:25
Speaker 1: are flipping their pass rusher all over the field. And
33:28
Speaker 1: Joan Taylor a guy who probably would they would have
33:33
Speaker 1: loved to have had a year where he could develop
33:36
Speaker 1: a little bit and then come into second year like
33:37
Speaker 1: second round picks used to. Well, now you're playing and
33:41
Speaker 1: playing some top pass rushers, which is his position, never
33:44
Speaker 1: used to. I still think he's gonna be fine. He's
33:47
Speaker 1: run up against some really really good players who have
33:49
Speaker 1: got him a little bit. I haven't heard anything from
33:52
Speaker 1: coaches that make me think that he's not gonna be
33:53
Speaker 1: really really good. They still are very high on him,
33:58
Speaker 1: like here's better than mine. But X man appreciate that.
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Speaker 1: equipment manager. Hello, Jimmy, how are you doing? Great? Man?
36:11
Speaker 1: What's going on? Not much? Uh no, I'm you're good.
36:18
Speaker 1: I don't need to make any kind of demands. Uh yeah.
36:23
Speaker 1: So let's take us through that on the equipment. So
36:25
Speaker 1: what you guys have to clean out the locker and
36:27
Speaker 1: do all that stuff. He doesn't come in and do
36:29
Speaker 1: all that, right. It was what we do is we
36:32
Speaker 1: basically get in touch with their equipment guys, um kind
36:35
Speaker 1: of like at the same time, and uh we'll overnight
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36:40
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36:42
Speaker 1: rest of it and send it out his gloves, cleats,
36:45
Speaker 1: anything it's got in his lockers. And that's pretty much
36:47
Speaker 1: any player in that situation you get. Yeah, yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Yeah.
36:51
Speaker 1: We like said, we always try to get them their
36:53
Speaker 1: shoulder pads as quick as possible, so that way that
36:55
Speaker 1: you know, if they need to figure out jersey and stuff,
36:58
Speaker 1: we send a sample of his jersey, um, just because
37:00
Speaker 1: he does a little funky thing with the sleeve. So
37:03
Speaker 1: just so that way they could take a look at it.
37:04
Speaker 1: Just try to help him out, because it's one of
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Speaker 1: those things that it goes around. I mean, we'll end
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37:10
Speaker 1: need to help. So you just kinda keep paying it forward.
37:14
Speaker 1: And you know, I mean at some point everybody's arrival,
37:18
Speaker 1: but everybody's professional, that knows. But with the other guy's
37:20
Speaker 1: job is yeah, I mean it's you try to help
37:22
Speaker 1: each other out, you know. It's um. Actually, I had
37:26
Speaker 1: just seen their equipment guy the day before at an
37:28
Speaker 1: NFL meeting in Chicago, so yeah, so it was all good.
37:32
Speaker 1: They're I think they're actually got a big week. They're
37:34
Speaker 1: going to Atlanta this week, staying there and then going
37:36
Speaker 1: to London. They played the week before, we do what's
37:38
Speaker 1: happening with the CB A You're in Chicago? Do you
37:40
Speaker 1: get that? Was? No, that was I think they were
37:42
Speaker 1: doing that one somewhere else. That was a different. They
37:45
Speaker 1: didn't come by. Others won. The one person we need
37:49
Speaker 1: to talk to came in over video conference. We were
37:53
Speaker 1: pretty low down the Tote Bowl there. So the Jags
37:56
Speaker 1: are headed to Cincinnati. I will say I did read
38:00
Speaker 1: that the Bengals are wearing black jerseys, so well, the
38:03
Speaker 1: Jaguars wear this Sunday Jimmy Luck, it's gonna go with
38:07
Speaker 1: the white pants. Okay, white pants. And also since you
38:11
Speaker 1: said they're wearing black, wearing white and he waits all week? Yeah,
38:16
Speaker 1: and then literally five seconds before so white over white? Whatever?
38:22
Speaker 1: What got a little Josh Allen kind of local you know,
38:25
Speaker 1: Kentucky hour or so down the road. Sure, yeah, he
38:27
Speaker 1: was one of my players who watch this week? If
38:29
Speaker 1: that or not, I don't know. But you liked this
38:31
Speaker 1: player better though I did not? Now not now your Yeah,
38:36
Speaker 1: I like yours better. That's why Josh Allen off a
38:39
Speaker 1: good start four sacks. Yeah they are, so we'll be
38:42
Speaker 1: wearing all white. You could have also picked Andrew Norwell,
38:44
Speaker 1: he's from Cincinnati. Did not know that about that? I
38:47
Speaker 1: did not know. I know he went to Ohiouse State,
38:49
Speaker 1: but I didn't know he's from since yes, well, now
38:51
Speaker 1: you know. Now you know where's Josh from? Is he from?
38:54
Speaker 1: Since he's not from the High now he's from New Jersey.
38:57
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, that's right. And then then grew spent
38:59
Speaker 1: some time in Alabama as well, and then it was
39:01
Speaker 1: in Jersey. Was all right? That's right? All right? White
39:04
Speaker 1: on white looks right, Jimmy, way to go. I appreciate it.
39:07
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42:08
Speaker 1: are two and for um, what is the on the
42:12
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. It seemed like a solid
42:15
Speaker 1: game last rook for this group overall, right. They slowed
42:18
Speaker 1: down Chamara. He seems to be hampered though a little
42:21
Speaker 1: bit now just reading the reports from New Orleans this week.
42:24
Speaker 1: Moving ahead and the next couple of weeks, they're gonna
42:27
Speaker 1: have some issues, it sounds like with him. But they
42:30
Speaker 1: did slow him down. They didn't let the receiver go
42:33
Speaker 1: offer a huge game. He got some teddy held the
42:36
Speaker 1: ball a good bit and you know, they played a
42:39
Speaker 1: solid game. They needed that game after the weeks prior
42:42
Speaker 1: to that. Camara was clearly hampered, play hampered, and there
42:46
Speaker 1: were some moments late in the game where you'd have
42:48
Speaker 1: liked to have gotten off the field better against the
42:51
Speaker 1: Saint Um. The bottom line is, you hold any team
42:55
Speaker 1: in this league to thirteen points and you've done your job.
42:58
Speaker 1: I it was. It was a fine game by the defense.
43:02
Speaker 1: It wasn't one that will be writing about in ten
43:04
Speaker 1: years as as as a generational game, but it was fine.
43:09
Speaker 1: It was good enough to win. And uh, you know,
43:12
Speaker 1: I think right now it's what the defense is. I
43:15
Speaker 1: don't think they are not the elite unit that we
43:19
Speaker 1: thought they were going to be before the season. I
43:21
Speaker 1: think a lot of people, including myself, misjudged that a
43:23
Speaker 1: little bit. But they're not awful. They're a defense that
43:26
Speaker 1: probably eight or nine times this year we'll play the
43:30
Speaker 1: kind of game it did the other day. They are
43:31
Speaker 1: already done at three out of six. You know, they've
43:34
Speaker 1: held opponents three times to twelve I'm sorry, thirteen, thirteen
43:39
Speaker 1: and seven at a six games. Well, you know that's good.
43:43
Speaker 1: The other games have not been good. So I think
43:45
Speaker 1: it's probably what you're gonna get from this defense. Think
43:46
Speaker 1: it's gonna be eight or nine games really good, Uh,
43:50
Speaker 1: seven or eight that are not so great because right now, um,
43:54
Speaker 1: the personnel is not what it was in two thousand seventeen.
43:58
Speaker 1: You know you the defensive line is not playing in waves. Uh.
44:03
Speaker 1: You had Miles Jack, Pause Lesnie and Telvin in seventeen.
44:06
Speaker 1: Now you've got Miles Jack out of that bunch. Uh,
44:08
Speaker 1: naj good. I don't think he's putting the class at
44:10
Speaker 1: the other guys, although he played well the other day.
44:12
Speaker 1: And the secondary is now a J boy a and
44:17
Speaker 1: three guys that excuse me that you're waiting to see
44:20
Speaker 1: what they me that you wait to see what they are.
44:24
Speaker 1: But the counter to that is the offense at times
44:28
Speaker 1: can score enough to get them even with the other
44:31
Speaker 1: team's offense. So it's gonna be up for this team
44:34
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to win a lot of
44:35
Speaker 1: close games. Um, but that's what the NFL is. They've
44:39
Speaker 1: they've shown they can do that. They just have to
44:41
Speaker 1: do it more consistently. Are weekly co host on this
44:45
Speaker 1: program is Jaguars wide receiver Chris Connolly, and he joins us.
44:50
Speaker 1: Now the meetings are over, he has a special surprise
44:54
Speaker 1: guest from the locker room today. Chris. Uh. First off,
44:57
Speaker 1: how are you doing? What's going on? Man? Which I
44:59
Speaker 1: am doing extremely well? And you know, I'm doing so
45:03
Speaker 1: much better now that I can be joined by this
45:05
Speaker 1: awesome and amazing guest today. You know, I'm just so
45:08
Speaker 1: excited to have someone of this caliber sit in that
45:11
Speaker 1: chair opposite of me, you know, going Oh, I mean
45:16
Speaker 1: obviously you guys, you know, someone who just you know,
45:19
Speaker 1: went to a school that embodies everything about college football
45:25
Speaker 1: that just might be wrong, but it's still just such
45:28
Speaker 1: a wholesome and awesome person to be in a locker
45:31
Speaker 1: room with. You know, isn't that nice of you? I know,
45:34
Speaker 1: it's correct, It's it's amazing, This is this is awesome.
45:38
Speaker 1: LAURENTI McCree, how are you, sir? Doing? Will know anytime,
45:42
Speaker 1: anytime I get to come into a football with you guys,
45:45
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's awesome. Glad to have you anytime, um,
45:49
Speaker 1: and Chris is certainly glad to have you to it
45:51
Speaker 1: sounds like, yeah, I wish it would have been a
45:54
Speaker 1: couple of weeks later, but I mean, I'll talk again.
45:57
Speaker 1: We can talk again. Obviously the Florida Georgia. You guys
46:00
Speaker 1: sit across from each other, our lockers are literally how
46:03
Speaker 1: is that going to be in a couple of weeks? Um,
46:07
Speaker 1: I think it would be a lot of orange blue
46:08
Speaker 1: in that corner. Yeah, we'll see, We'll see. Huh. Let's
46:14
Speaker 1: start with the big story today, the reaction to the
46:17
Speaker 1: Jaila Ramsey trade. Um, how was it? We saw in
46:20
Speaker 1: the open media time, guys were kind of they weren't
46:25
Speaker 1: really on jail and too much. They were happy for
46:28
Speaker 1: him moving forward and then that the team can move
46:30
Speaker 1: forward to Cincinnati and onto the rest of the season.
46:33
Speaker 1: Is that an accurate portrayal? What are you guys feeling? Offensively?
46:37
Speaker 1: That's you know, where we're at. We don't really have
46:39
Speaker 1: time to does register or sit back and and really
46:44
Speaker 1: take time off. Right now. We have to move forward.
46:46
Speaker 1: We have to get a game plan ready, you know.
46:48
Speaker 1: And obviously it's probably different for the defense, and you
46:51
Speaker 1: can get that perspective from Lorente. But offensively, man, we
46:53
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta lock in and get ready for Cincinnati.
46:57
Speaker 1: Good player, but he's not around anymore. Laurenta well does
47:00
Speaker 1: that mean to you guys? Definitely, guy, we're gonna miss
47:02
Speaker 1: um when you're dealing with one of the best cornerbacks
47:04
Speaker 1: in the league. Man, we're definitely gonna miss him on
47:06
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. I mean we were
47:09
Speaker 1: able to, you know, call the defense a little bit differently,
47:11
Speaker 1: you know, throughout different teams and throughout the game. So
47:15
Speaker 1: I mean it's definitely we're definitely gonna miss him. Is
47:17
Speaker 1: it frustrating? Though? At times when the way it went
47:20
Speaker 1: down the last few weeks, Um was with him off
47:23
Speaker 1: to the side and then not participating and wanting to
47:26
Speaker 1: be traded actively saying that we do we do you
47:28
Speaker 1: guys hear all that stuff, and how do you block
47:31
Speaker 1: all that away? I mean we kind of we kind
47:33
Speaker 1: of just isolated it. I mean, we just deal with
47:35
Speaker 1: deal with the game plan one week at a time.
47:37
Speaker 1: We weren't really focused on Jayalen. You know, we didn't
47:39
Speaker 1: really make a big of an issue as they made
47:41
Speaker 1: it outside. You know, he's he's a team player. We
47:43
Speaker 1: got fifty three guys on the team. He's one of
47:45
Speaker 1: the guys that he had a personal issue, whatever he
47:47
Speaker 1: was dealing with, you know, that was his issue. You know,
47:50
Speaker 1: we just compartmentalized and just move forward. You know, I
47:53
Speaker 1: believe that people on the outside, you know, they pretty
47:57
Speaker 1: much scrutinized that situation more than it actually was in
47:59
Speaker 1: this bill. And Chris, is it a case of it's
48:04
Speaker 1: a business? Or is there anything of he didn't want
48:08
Speaker 1: to be here? Still we're done with it? I mean,
48:10
Speaker 1: or where do you draw the line on that? Or
48:12
Speaker 1: does it even something you think about? I think as
48:14
Speaker 1: players we have to realize that this is a business.
48:17
Speaker 1: But this game is a business, and you know, with
48:19
Speaker 1: the things that he was dealing with in the situation
48:21
Speaker 1: that he was in, we have to make sure that
48:23
Speaker 1: we don't judge that situation, that we don't judge him
48:25
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, that's my teammate,
48:28
Speaker 1: you know. And and Jalen and I had a rocky
48:31
Speaker 1: start here in Jacksonville. We had a very competitive rivalry
48:36
Speaker 1: going through camp. But he's he became one of those
48:39
Speaker 1: guys that I grew to respect a lot and to
48:41
Speaker 1: respect that a way that he came in and the
48:43
Speaker 1: way that he prepared, And I had to myself make
48:48
Speaker 1: sure that I wasn't judging his situation, make sure he
48:50
Speaker 1: was doing what was right for him. Ultimately, the team
48:53
Speaker 1: did what was right for the team, and you know
48:54
Speaker 1: that's it. I wish him the best and uh, as
48:57
Speaker 1: he's moving forward, I hope he plays lights out, you know,
49:00
Speaker 1: until we meet him. But um, we gotta move forward
49:03
Speaker 1: and do what we gotta do. It's onto Cincinnati, is um,
49:06
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick once said. And then that's where those teams
49:10
Speaker 1: going this week, this offense. So Chris struggled last week
49:13
Speaker 1: to find that consistency and move the ball a bunch
49:16
Speaker 1: of three and outs early, couldn't find the rhythm. And
49:18
Speaker 1: then when you can't get those third downs and the
49:20
Speaker 1: running game can't get going, and it just didn't really
49:23
Speaker 1: seem to find much life last week. How do you
49:25
Speaker 1: guys get back on track with that this week? How
49:28
Speaker 1: do you do that? Really, just being your toughest critic,
49:31
Speaker 1: when you come in and you watch the film and
49:33
Speaker 1: you have a day like that, it happens and has
49:35
Speaker 1: There are times where you're out of rhythm and there
49:36
Speaker 1: are times where it's a lot harder to get going.
49:38
Speaker 1: You have to be brutally honest with yourself as to
49:42
Speaker 1: why that happened. Why did we have drive stallers? Why
49:45
Speaker 1: did we have penalties at certain times? Why did we
49:47
Speaker 1: have some place that we're really close to popping but
49:50
Speaker 1: they didn't quite pop. You have to be brutally honest
49:52
Speaker 1: about those things, and then you have to go back
49:54
Speaker 1: to the drawing board. Maybe reinvent some things, maybe change
49:57
Speaker 1: some things up a little bit, but when you come
49:59
Speaker 1: down to the basic, you have to make sure that
50:01
Speaker 1: you are fundamentally sound and everything that you do. If
50:04
Speaker 1: you're fundamentally sound, you can move the ball, you can
50:07
Speaker 1: sustain drives, you can't get some sort of points, and
50:09
Speaker 1: that's what we gotta do. Get back to the basics
50:11
Speaker 1: and make sure that we're focusing on little things. I
50:13
Speaker 1: know you get worn out on always asking questions about Gardener,
50:16
Speaker 1: but he's the quarterback and this was his first real
50:19
Speaker 1: tough game in the NFL. How has he responded this week?
50:22
Speaker 1: Do you like what you've seen from him in terms
50:24
Speaker 1: of approach? It's it's been really good. I feel like
50:27
Speaker 1: Gonner has picked himself up and his message that he's
50:30
Speaker 1: been relaying to guys in the locker room is whatever
50:33
Speaker 1: we do this week, let's get better. Whatever happened this
50:36
Speaker 1: past weekend, whatever mistakes that were made, whatever the score
50:41
Speaker 1: was this that, whatever we didn't do, let's make sure
50:44
Speaker 1: this week we get better. Let's get better at the
50:46
Speaker 1: things that we weren't as good as last week. And
50:49
Speaker 1: so as we've been moving through the meetings today, as
50:52
Speaker 1: we moved through practice today, he just continued to echo,
50:55
Speaker 1: let's just get better. Let's just get a little bit
50:57
Speaker 1: better at this, Let's just get a little bit. And
50:59
Speaker 1: I like that that is a sign of that's good
51:01
Speaker 1: leadership coming from a young guy being able to like
51:05
Speaker 1: scope and zoom in on something so simple that can
51:09
Speaker 1: motivate people. And that's really going to be helpful this week.
51:11
Speaker 1: I want to hear about y'all's section of the locker room.
51:14
Speaker 1: It's gotta be you know, you guys are on the
51:17
Speaker 1: same areas. You get to know each other well, you
51:18
Speaker 1: get to know a J. What is that group like
51:22
Speaker 1: and how much interchange is there between you two guys,
51:24
Speaker 1: because I get the feeling there's quite a bit even
51:27
Speaker 1: beyond Ford to Georgia, a give and take over there, man,
51:30
Speaker 1: I'll call I'll called the game last week when something
51:33
Speaker 1: went down there, when they went down there and beat
51:35
Speaker 1: them boys. So okay, a J next to me, so
51:38
Speaker 1: I was next. Yeah that's South Carolina. They took care
51:44
Speaker 1: of my boys. But you know they'll bounce back, They'll
51:47
Speaker 1: be all right. I actually forgotten we actually have a
51:49
Speaker 1: j and we have cam yeah Kentucky. Yeah. This that
51:58
Speaker 1: our corner of the locker room is and got SEC
52:00
Speaker 1: football to corner. Yeah. And so everybody's got an opinion.
52:05
Speaker 1: Everybody's got an opinion, everybody's got something to say. Everybody
52:08
Speaker 1: does not back down from an argument. But that's what
52:11
Speaker 1: makes our corner of the locker room the best corner
52:13
Speaker 1: of the locker room, you know, because we played real
52:14
Speaker 1: college football. You know what I mean? Right? What does
52:20
Speaker 1: this mean? Don Okay? GREATA, I get it. Yeah, the
52:27
Speaker 1: whole room. Sure, I think you are going to get
52:31
Speaker 1: me by l SUP. I agree with that. I think
52:33
Speaker 1: this could be the year because l s you can
52:35
Speaker 1: throw the ball around Florida l SEC champion quite possible,
52:41
Speaker 1: Quite possible. If that happens, you just want Lanard as
52:43
Speaker 1: far away from that side. I think I get my
52:47
Speaker 1: money back. So what all right? Do you guys you
52:52
Speaker 1: have any questions for Laurent or do you have any
52:53
Speaker 1: questions for Chris? This is kind of how we do
52:55
Speaker 1: this sometimes we let you guys kind of go out
52:57
Speaker 1: of here. If you're gonna ask me a question, just
52:59
Speaker 1: make it, make it the good one, because this is
53:01
Speaker 1: your chance, this is your moment right now. Keep it clean. Already,
53:05
Speaker 1: I already have any questions. I mean, I'm just you know,
53:08
Speaker 1: anxious to see, like should I get some Jordan shoes
53:11
Speaker 1: for you to wear? You know, like, what size do
53:13
Speaker 1: you wear? What'side? Shoot you wear? Okay, I go about
53:18
Speaker 1: I got some blue Jeorgans for you. What about you?
53:20
Speaker 1: What's size do you wear? What's size? T shirt? Goody,
53:24
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter. Headband? I won't be wearing that stuff.
53:27
Speaker 1: You see. Any questions? Yeah? I want? So should I
53:32
Speaker 1: have you weared in London? Because we played in London?
53:35
Speaker 1: You know, after they play, I want all the smoke.
53:38
Speaker 1: So if that's what we is that, if that's what
53:39
Speaker 1: we're doing on Rocking Women, what we're making this official
53:42
Speaker 1: on the show? Yeah, on the on the show. So
53:46
Speaker 1: I guess we got to wear it? What what the
53:48
Speaker 1: whole time in London or what a day or two
53:52
Speaker 1: in London? I would say, you wear we're in London,
53:55
Speaker 1: then where it once we get back on Monday? Okay,
53:58
Speaker 1: so maybe on this show a day in London, the
54:01
Speaker 1: day when we get back, the loser of that game
54:03
Speaker 1: has to rock whatever gear the other person gets on. Absolutely,
54:06
Speaker 1: I'm cool with that. I like that, you know, I
54:08
Speaker 1: like it. You know, some people shy away from from these,
54:12
Speaker 1: you know, gentlemen's agreements. They don't really they can't really
54:15
Speaker 1: get behind their team. I really like it when someone,
54:17
Speaker 1: regardless of what their team looks like, whatever the situation is,
54:20
Speaker 1: can get behind their team and that you know, we're
54:22
Speaker 1: not throwing a bunch of money on this bat, but
54:24
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's it's still a it's still
54:26
Speaker 1: a good competitive situation. And I like competitive situation. Him
54:32
Speaker 1: from last year that it's a long story, but Florida
54:36
Speaker 1: overachieved let's say last year. That's okay defensively for this team.
54:41
Speaker 1: You know, this was a game where you guys kind
54:43
Speaker 1: of got back on track as a whole unit. It
54:46
Speaker 1: felt like last week against New Orleans. It didn't win
54:48
Speaker 1: the game, obviously, but for the most part of the
54:50
Speaker 1: day you did what you wanted to do against the Saints.
54:53
Speaker 1: Is that is that more what you guys, I feel
54:56
Speaker 1: like you're back to now? Is this gonna be a
54:58
Speaker 1: week over week thing for you, guys, do I mean,
55:00
Speaker 1: we just got to be consistent. I mean today we
55:02
Speaker 1: went out, we had a good day today in practice,
55:05
Speaker 1: and tomorrow we gotta go out and have another good day,
55:07
Speaker 1: and then on Friday we had to put it all together.
55:09
Speaker 1: So we basically just gotta take it one day at
55:11
Speaker 1: a time, just come in, like you said, get better
55:13
Speaker 1: at something, a small thing, and that's going to be
55:16
Speaker 1: be able to create consistency throughout the year. So I mean,
55:19
Speaker 1: the best team that wins the Super Bowl is not
55:21
Speaker 1: the best team in September or October. It's the best
55:24
Speaker 1: teams in December and January that usually go on to
55:27
Speaker 1: go to the Super Bowl. So that's what we're doing.
55:29
Speaker 1: We're trying to consistently go up that roller coaster and
55:32
Speaker 1: get to the top, not go all the way to
55:33
Speaker 1: the top and then have a fall. You've been with
55:36
Speaker 1: Joe D a long time, Yeah, Special teams coordinator, Yes,
55:41
Speaker 1: all right. Is there any good Joe D story that
55:43
Speaker 1: you can share on the air that you can show?
55:48
Speaker 1: I mean there's the internet. I guess uh, I'll just
55:54
Speaker 1: stay away from that today. I tell you, guys, over
56:00
Speaker 1: the years, he's a great guy to play for special
56:03
Speaker 1: teams guys. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, why, Um, he's just he's
56:06
Speaker 1: one of the best special teams coaches you know there
56:08
Speaker 1: is in this NFL. You know. Um, he just he
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Speaker 1: just does all those things. I mean, he puts you
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Speaker 1: in the best position. He breaks down film, he's always studying.
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Speaker 1: He's always has a good assistant that helps him out.
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Speaker 1: You know, he draws a good play cards, he has
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Speaker 1: a good you know, he he knows their tennessee'es. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, he knows their best players. He he pretty
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Speaker 1: much knows the bottom half of every team roster in
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Speaker 1: the NFL. So that's that's really important. To be the
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Speaker 1: special teams coordinator. You have to know their deficiencies as
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Speaker 1: an athlete, you know, so that you your team can
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Speaker 1: go out there and dominate. You have to know if
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Speaker 1: they're good in space. You got to know if you
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Speaker 1: know they get tied up on blocks. You have to
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Speaker 1: know if they can move, you know, in space as
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Speaker 1: they're blocking you on on kickoff return. You gotta knows
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Speaker 1: a guy. He's a straight line guy. You have to
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Speaker 1: know a lot of different stuff. So he's real good
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Speaker 1: at you know, going in and setting up I think
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Speaker 1: he can be approach scout because he's good at diagnos
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Speaker 1: and talent and he always keeps it even even key
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Speaker 1: all right, right, right, it gets a little wired, but
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Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta you gotta love him. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's just a guy that you want to play for us,
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Speaker 1: a guy that you one of your fox So you know,
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Speaker 1: you know he means well. You know, even if he
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Speaker 1: says something bad, you know it's coming from a good place.
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Speaker 1: So you just gotta respect him. You gotta respect his
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Speaker 1: attitude coming into work every day. Alright, final thoughts, You're
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Speaker 1: going to Cincinnati, and this is a stretch. I know
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Speaker 1: we look game to game. We've had this discussion on
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Speaker 1: this program before, one game at a time, one game
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Speaker 1: at a time. But Chris, this is a stretch where,
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Speaker 1: you know, two and four, it's early, there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of football left. He played. What do you feel about
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Speaker 1: the next few weeks here? About getting back? You know,
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Speaker 1: I can't necessarily speak as to the next few weeks here,
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Speaker 1: but I can speak as to the next few days.
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Speaker 1: You know, this team has to lock in, put together
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Speaker 1: a couple more good practices like we had today, and
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Speaker 1: then the big thing for this team. Where we are
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Speaker 1: right now is we just let have to let those
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Speaker 1: practices translate into the game. There's not one person who
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Speaker 1: can tell me that this defense, that special teams in
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Speaker 1: offense have not worked their butt off this offseason, this season,
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Speaker 1: preseason and every day in here studying, going out there
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Speaker 1: and giving it all. They got out in the heat
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Speaker 1: getting ready for these games. But now we're at the
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Speaker 1: point where we have to let those things translate. When
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Speaker 1: once you let them translate, those plays start to fall,
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Speaker 1: want to start to fall your way, and you go
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Speaker 1: from being an R right team to a really good team,
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Speaker 1: a really hard team to beat. And so that's where
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Speaker 1: we want to go right now. And you know, I
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Speaker 1: can't speak for the weeks to come, but I know
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Speaker 1: that this week we're trying to get back on track.
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Speaker 1: This is a get back on track week. This is
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Speaker 1: a get back on track game, and you know we
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Speaker 1: just gotta not You can't be afraid to let it translate.
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Speaker 1: Can't be afraid to let great things happen because of
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Speaker 1: your hard work. I love it. Big game this Sunday,
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Speaker 1: one o'clock, Paul Brown Stadium, Cincinnati, Laurenti McCrae always good
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Speaker 1: to see you and talk more with you. Appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in man, no problem, Thanks for having
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Speaker 1: its great talking about what you learned. McCrae and Chris Connie,
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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week. Man, it sounds like
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Speaker 1: a plan. There he is for John Osier, our entire crew.
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