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The Biggest Hometown Date of All with Ben's Girlfriend Jess · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with our radio. Should we start like opening up this
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  Speaker 1: show and saying the Ben and Author Ashley I podcast
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  Speaker 1: like a formal title that we can give you, like doctor. Well,
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  Speaker 1: then it would be like philanthropists Ben Higgins and author Actually,
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  Speaker 1: like an Eddie, we get real deep and like obsessed
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  Speaker 1: with ourselves. Let's not do that. Let's not do that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think people would like that at all. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: if you have it yet, make sure to go out
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  Speaker 1: and buy Ashley and Jared's new book. I've read it
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  Speaker 1: for the back. It's terrific. I've learned a lot about
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  Speaker 1: my own self through it. Actually, where can they buy it?
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  Speaker 1: They can buy it right now at Lucy and Clark
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  Speaker 1: book dot com and then at the end of March
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  Speaker 1: it will be on Amazon. But why get it on
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  Speaker 1: Amazon in six weeks? If you can get it now
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  Speaker 1: at Lucy and Clark book dot com, it will be
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  Speaker 1: in your mailbox or at your door within a week
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  Speaker 1: and um then it will also be in bookstores at
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  Speaker 1: the end of March. Ben, we are doing a special
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  Speaker 1: little celebration for it. Next week You're flying out to
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  Speaker 1: l A. We're gonna have dinner at Mr Chow's, which
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  Speaker 1: is super good and I've only been there on an
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  Speaker 1: awkward date like I talked about last week. But Ben,
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  Speaker 1: if you ever have Mr Chow's. I know of Mr Chow.
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  Speaker 1: I hear big things about him. He's very popular in
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  Speaker 1: the food community here in l A. So good. You'll
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  Speaker 1: eat with me, Jared and a couple other bachelor friends.
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  Speaker 1: And um, we're we're putting that dinner up forbid. If
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  Speaker 1: you go to if only dot Com proceeds go to
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  Speaker 1: the American Red Cross and you get to have dinner
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  Speaker 1: with me, Ben, Jared, and a couple other of our
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  Speaker 1: bachelor friends. And in addition, it is open to the
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  Speaker 1: public to go to Planet Blue in Malibu at six
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  Speaker 1: o'clock next Monday, March fourth, and you guys can just
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  Speaker 1: hang out with us. We'll probably do a book reading,
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  Speaker 1: we'll do some book signing, and then we'll just be chatting.
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  Speaker 1: So open for him to come hang out with some
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  Speaker 1: of your bachelor faives next Monday in Labu at Plant Blue,
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  Speaker 1: six o'clock. Alright, Ben, after that shameless plug, let's get
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  Speaker 1: back to how your trip in Honduras was. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: just got back generous Adventures. We call it UM. It's
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  Speaker 1: part of Generous UH International, which is best known a
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  Speaker 1: Generous Coffee. So we started Generous Adventures, which takes trips
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  Speaker 1: to our coffee farms all around the world, and so
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  Speaker 1: we do it a couple of times a year. This
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  Speaker 1: trip was special because we went to Honduras and we
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  Speaker 1: visited our new coffee farm, which is called Honduras Coffee Kids.
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  Speaker 1: And this is a farm that the kids of producers,
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  Speaker 1: so the kids of families that have been in coffee
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  Speaker 1: for hundreds of years are now learning how to grow
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  Speaker 1: specialty coffee. So we went and visit them. We also
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  Speaker 1: went and visited the communities that our coffee sales and
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  Speaker 1: t shirt sales are going to. We brought twenty two
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  Speaker 1: people with us in the US and we drove across Honduras.
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  Speaker 1: UM experienced the whole country. It was It was really
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  Speaker 1: awesome and uh, it's really fun. I honestly ash every
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  Speaker 1: time I go down. You know, sometimes I think for
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  Speaker 1: all of us, who you know, work and we have
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  Speaker 1: all our own specific jobs. Sometimes we kind of get
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  Speaker 1: in this routine and I'm talking to UM, a young
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  Speaker 1: lady right now who listens to podcast and She's just
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  Speaker 1: texting me today and she's like, I'm just kind of
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  Speaker 1: in a rut, like I'm depressed. I'm sad, and it's
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  Speaker 1: because I don't feel a purpose. And I think these
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  Speaker 1: trips allow all of us to experience a purpose again,
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  Speaker 1: like feel like we have human connection and feel like
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  Speaker 1: we can make a difference in the world. Feel like, um,
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  Speaker 1: we can take a step away from the regular routines
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  Speaker 1: and just recalibrate and and see what it is that
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  Speaker 1: makes life important. And ultimately, I believe that's people. And
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  Speaker 1: so I feel great being back. My stomach is healthy,
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  Speaker 1: which is always a good A good plus no parasite
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  Speaker 1: this time, no parasite, but it was it was great.
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  Speaker 1: So and everybody on the trip, you know, as big
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  Speaker 1: fans of yours, Ashley. They listen to the podcast um
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  Speaker 1: and uh, and it's really cool to hear their feedback
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  Speaker 1: after they get to know me personally, I mean, spend
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  Speaker 1: a whole week with me in a bus and so
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  Speaker 1: after you get to know me personally and here you
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  Speaker 1: know kind of their critique of the podcast and just
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  Speaker 1: how much they like it and they love our our banter.
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  Speaker 1: And it just always makes me smile because it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: two years and almost to this thing, and and it
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  Speaker 1: does feel like you and I have have helped create
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  Speaker 1: something really awesome. So anyways, I feel very blessed right now.
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  Speaker 1: I feel very full, uh, and I'm very excited about
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  Speaker 1: what's to come, not if you're generous, but almost famous.
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel a lot of that full happiness because
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  Speaker 1: you brought your lady jess I did. Yeah, I think so,
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  Speaker 1: she you know, so yeah, no, no, I know. So,
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  Speaker 1: So this is what happened actually, and and Jessica is
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  Speaker 1: going to come on the podcast here today and just
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  Speaker 1: a little bit and talk with both of us. Ashley's
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  Speaker 1: gonna griller. I mean, there's nothing to grill, um. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, when Jesse and I started dating, um uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know in early February or early December. Really she
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  Speaker 1: knew I was going on this trip, and she on
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  Speaker 1: her own accord and said, hey, I just want this
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  Speaker 1: for myself. I'm gonna sign up, um if you're okay
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  Speaker 1: with me going. So it was just awesome for her
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  Speaker 1: to invest into kind of one of the things that
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  Speaker 1: I love and uh, and for her to choose to go,
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  Speaker 1: and so she came down for the three days of
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  Speaker 1: the trip and got to meet everybody, and uh, and
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  Speaker 1: we just kind of got to take a week away
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  Speaker 1: as we announced that that we are dating, that we're
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  Speaker 1: happily dating, that things are good, and I'm excited for
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  Speaker 1: the world to get to know her because she is
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  Speaker 1: she's a really special person. Okay, everybody freaked out last week.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody was so excited for you. And I think Jess
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  Speaker 1: gained sixty thousand Instagram followers. Like, that's how many people
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  Speaker 1: are eager to know about the lady in your life.
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  Speaker 1: I know, isn't that crazy? She she told me. She's like,
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  Speaker 1: what can I because Jess has a story to tell
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  Speaker 1: and it's not mine to tell. But Jess's story of
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  Speaker 1: how she's gone to where she's at and the things
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  Speaker 1: that she's kind of worked through in her life, uh,
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  Speaker 1: is incredible. I mean, the woman she is today is
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  Speaker 1: something special and so uh she was like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: what is going to happen? And she is not a
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  Speaker 1: social media person at all. She she likes it. She
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  Speaker 1: does it for what she needs it for. Um. But
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  Speaker 1: then when the followers started creeping up, she was like,
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  Speaker 1: what in the heck do I do? And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I think you just keep being yourself. Um. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was a big day for her, a big day
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  Speaker 1: for us. Uh, And it's exciting. I mean, I want,
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  Speaker 1: it's always exciting when somebody can have a platform to
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  Speaker 1: speak on things they love. And I think now Jeff
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  Speaker 1: definitely does and I'm happy to show her off to
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  Speaker 1: the world, uh because I do think she, uh there's
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  Speaker 1: somebody that everybody will enjoy and appreciate. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I say often that I like people because I think
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  Speaker 1: I do right like I do, but those days that
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  Speaker 1: I do not, Um, she legitimately likes people, like legitimately
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  Speaker 1: cares a ton about each human being she comes into
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  Speaker 1: contact with and like emotionally invests into them. And so
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  Speaker 1: I mean that is the type of person that everybody
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  Speaker 1: needs to know. And I know that you wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: so open and public about her if you didn't see
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  Speaker 1: a future. Oh yeah, definitely. I mean, you know, it
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  Speaker 1: hasn't been very long. And I don't want to put
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  Speaker 1: a ton of pressure on us because I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if that's fair. But I would never um put a
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  Speaker 1: relationship out there that I didn't feel like could handle it.
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  Speaker 1: One and that was healthy enough to be sustained, and
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  Speaker 1: then also one that I think people need to know about.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to freak out and you know, start
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  Speaker 1: saying crazy things and act like this is the the
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  Speaker 1: end all be all. Yet you're not gonna You're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna pull Tom Cruise and jump on the couch right now. No, No,
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  Speaker 1: but this is so good, Ash, it really is. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited for her to come up podcast. I'm actually
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  Speaker 1: uh so smiling. You guys get to see him on FaceTime,
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  Speaker 1: Skype or whatever. He's like so like he's God Like
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  Speaker 1: all the smile wrinkles right now. It's like his face
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  Speaker 1: kind of hurts. It's so I agree. So this is
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  Speaker 1: everybody out there listening. Actually you have to hear this.
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  Speaker 1: She goes, this is our text through the day. I said, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: you ready for the big interview to seet today shows?
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  Speaker 1: Probably not? Do I get the questions you're gonna ask beforehand?
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  Speaker 1: Or am I good? Just to win? I said, just
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  Speaker 1: win it, be yourself, will be great. I'll help you out.
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  Speaker 1: She goes, Okay, don't embarrass me or anything. I said,
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  Speaker 1: we will see shows. We're a team. If I embarrass myself,
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  Speaker 1: I embarrass you. So that's so cute. All right, let's
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  Speaker 1: get closer to this interview. First, we're gonna do the
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  Speaker 1: show recap, the hometown recap, and then we're going to
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  Speaker 1: get into Jess. I feel like everybody out there is like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to fast forward until Jess and then I'll
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  Speaker 1: come back again. But you cannot, you guys, Let this
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  Speaker 1: the the tension build, build a suspense. It'll be so fun. First,
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  Speaker 1: You got to do the breakdown Hometown Week, one of
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  Speaker 1: the craziest weeks out there in Bachelor Nation. Colton Coltine
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  Speaker 1: like the guy at least if I'm a father that
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  Speaker 1: I would like to come home with my daughter. I
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  Speaker 1: think he's gonna fine here. Oh yeah, he's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like you. I mean a lot of people have been
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  Speaker 1: comparing him to you. He's the best bachelors in Spen. Higgins.
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  Speaker 1: He gives that warm, wholesome vibe. He walks into your
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  Speaker 1: house and you're like, Okay, this guy, he's like every
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  Speaker 1: father's dream, right. Do you agree with that comparison? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I do? Yeah, Yeah, you think he has He's got
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  Speaker 1: those vibes. He has those warm, fuzzy vibes. He's well spoken,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't seem like he can do any harm. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: And you know how in this episode, Cassie shows a
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  Speaker 1: lot of she's very unsure. I feel like she's unsure him.
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  Speaker 1: She's the only one that hasn't said I'm falling in
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  Speaker 1: love with you. I think it's because she may like
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  Speaker 1: a guy who's a little rougher around the edges. I
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  Speaker 1: think she wants more of a bad boy really like
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  Speaker 1: he's too he's too we're not gonna say soft, a
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  Speaker 1: soft and good word to use. Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if Coltman wants to call him soft.
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  Speaker 1: He's like really approachable. He doesn't invoke any nerves from her.
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  Speaker 1: I think that she's like actually like it's like so
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  Speaker 1: comfy to be around him, and she may want a
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  Speaker 1: guy that's going to make her a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: nerves she's a little more intimidated by m hmm. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: well let's let's jump in here. We've got four women
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  Speaker 1: here still in the show, Kalin, Hannah, ge Uh, Tasha,
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  Speaker 1: and Cassie. Well, Calin is no longer here after this episode,
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  Speaker 1: but but for this episode, we're breaking it down. Shows
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  Speaker 1: up to Klin's house in Virginia. Here's what here's my takeaways, Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: I want you to chime in here her you know,
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  Speaker 1: her father is not in the picture, her stepdad is there.
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  Speaker 1: Her stepdad. To me, it just comes off as this
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  Speaker 1: dude that is so loving, like he just wants Kalin
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  Speaker 1: and the rest of the family to know how much
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  Speaker 1: he loves her. And so when Klin sits down with
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  Speaker 1: him and says, these are some of the moments in
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  Speaker 1: the show where you're like, okay, finally, like you have
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity to let somebody know how much you mean
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  Speaker 1: to him. And Klin does that by saying, You've always
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  Speaker 1: been my dad, and I love you. You've been the
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  Speaker 1: best dad. And you just see this guy like he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't even know how to respond this and was such
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  Speaker 1: a cute little mush It was that was really that
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  Speaker 1: was my favorite Kalin moment. This is one of my
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  Speaker 1: favorite kalent moments. It was a good one. Now you know,
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  Speaker 1: the hometown dates are always interesting. There's not a lot
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  Speaker 1: to talk about here because Colton walks in, he meets
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  Speaker 1: the family. There's a lot of them to meet. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's a ton of family members meet her. Her stepdad
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  Speaker 1: is kind of the picture of what we're focusing on
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  Speaker 1: is a step back in a light Colton is he not?
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  Speaker 1: And the step that is just a much like he's
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  Speaker 1: a great dude. You can tell he loves uh this
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  Speaker 1: family so much. But actually I gotta ask, okay, so
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  Speaker 1: that we can build on this here. This is obviously
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  Speaker 1: the episode that Kalin goes home. So leading up to
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  Speaker 1: this point, Kalin went for being a front runner. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Calin obviously was vulnerable. Um. She shared the depths of
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  Speaker 1: her pains uh with Colton and how she's been a
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  Speaker 1: survivor and is a survivor. But outside of out of
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  Speaker 1: side of those things, what happened in there relationship because
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  Speaker 1: you could kind of tell that this was the end
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  Speaker 1: for Calin before the episode even started. You you saw
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  Speaker 1: that episodes started, I think so I think you knew
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  Speaker 1: out of all these girls that Kalin was the one
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  Speaker 1: that was definitely on the chopping block. Um that something
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  Speaker 1: had to change here, and after this first date, I
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  Speaker 1: thought that not enough happened to prove even though she
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  Speaker 1: shared that she was falling for him, to prove that
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  Speaker 1: that she was going to be around. What's happened in
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  Speaker 1: their love story or their dating story that kind of
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  Speaker 1: made them separate. I think there's just a lot of
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  Speaker 1: I think it just came to a Standzill. I think
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  Speaker 1: that a lot of their conversations probably ended in her
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  Speaker 1: like giggling and not getting too deep. I think that
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  Speaker 1: he was like trying to get past the florty phase,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe they didn't get past that giggly florty phase.
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  Speaker 1: She I think it was a telltale sign when she
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  Speaker 1: said I'm fully in love with you now, because she
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  Speaker 1: said I'm falling last week and Colton didn't say anything back,
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  Speaker 1: and with the other three this week he said he
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  Speaker 1: said I'm falling in love with you two, which Ben,
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  Speaker 1: is there really a difference between I'm falling in love
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  Speaker 1: with you and I am in love with you? Because
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  Speaker 1: you got so much crap on your season for saying
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  Speaker 1: I love you to two women, but he's saying I'm
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  Speaker 1: falling in love with three women. So it's a really
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  Speaker 1: that much of a difference, you know, there there really
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  Speaker 1: isn't And and actually, I think on this show, saying
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  Speaker 1: I'm falling in love with you, maybe even in real life,
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  Speaker 1: like in dating Sam, falling in love with you is
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  Speaker 1: pretty much saying like I am in love with you
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  Speaker 1: without actually saying the words. And I could be wrong.
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  Speaker 1: And if I am pleasing email us. I've been an Ashley.
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  Speaker 1: iHeart media dot com. But this is just my opinion.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: I think every year, uh, you know, we've consistently seen
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: people tell people on the show, I'm falling in love
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: with you, which what they really want to say, what
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: you really want to say is I just absolutely adore
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: you or I love you. The funny part about this
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: and Colton did what every bachelor bachelor has ever done
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: in the history of the world, is once you get
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: in an awkward scenario, what do you do with Klin
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: He didn't feel it, he didn't want to do her.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Good on, good on Colton, he did not. He kisses her.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: He leans in for the big smacker rou that that
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: is the universal bachelor language for this is getting awkward
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: and I don't want to keep it getting confed. I
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: will say, like, if you do this in real life,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: would you ever have like phase of one where you go,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: I'm falling in love with you, and then like a
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: month later you go, I am in love with you? Like, no,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: you just wait until you are in love. Yeah, you
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: don't like tease it, like, well, why are you really
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: in love with me? I don't know, but I'm falling.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I'm almost there. Because you don't have the urgency in
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: real life, like you don't have to say it at
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: a certain point like now. If you're not saying it
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: by hometowns, it's like red flag, red flag. Like with Cassie,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: people like, oh my god, she doesn't like him enough
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: to stay anymore exactly, Yeah, like, oh my gosh, she
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: doesn't love Colton. She's out, she cannot be the one,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: like she's done. This is this is gonna get interesting
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: towards the end. Um. I do think that after that
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: day it was very clear that Caitlin was going home.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I actually, uh, just end the Calin segment here. When
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I was with Colton in Denver, it was the week
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: before this, right, and uh we we went through every
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: single one of the woman that he had left. When
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: he got to Kalin his he was very into her,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: very excited about her, said that they related on a
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: lot of levels. They had a very good conversation that
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: wasn't shown obviously on the show, but he was like,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I'm really really into Kalin, and so once I watched
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: last week and this week, Uh, it was surprising to
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: me how much I felt like his feelings had changed
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: in just a week and a half after speaking with
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: him in person. Wait, so, Ben, I remember when I
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: was like, give me the dirt. You met with Colton
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: this week in the middle of taping a season, and
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: you pretty much said that you thought that that Calin
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: was going to be it. I did fit after seeing
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: it in his eyes, Like it was like he had
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: a relationship with Calin that was so peaceful, comfortable, understanding
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: and supportive, and that's kind of how he explained. I
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: was like, well, that's your wife, Like that's it, and
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: and something changed. Now obviously I haven't had a chance
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: to talk him about it, and and I haven't asked
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: those questions, but I remember very clearly, like you said,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I came back saying this, Kalin whoever she is, she's
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: one to watch out for. I know, because I remember
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I could think I could say it now, but you
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: were like, she tells the story of sexual assault and
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: it kind of gives more detail into his virginity, and
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: then you're like, and I think this might be the
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: girl for him. Yeah. Like they were able to immediately
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: relate and interact on a whole new level, like a
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: deeper level, one that I don't know. I don't know
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Colton's who he's told, who he hasn't. I mean, obviously
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: now he's told millions of people, but before this, I
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: think it was hard for cold and open up. And
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I felt like he could with Kalin, which builds the
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: foundation obviously for anything in the future. So a little shocking.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: My front run at the beginning of the season is
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: now gone, leading into maybe my front runner now. Hannah
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Gee Hanna Geez from Alabama and she's got manners. We
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: saw this week that she wants a man that has etiquette.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: She takes Colton to an etiquette class. You know, here's
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: the thing. These hometown dates are always fun for me
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: because you get to see a little bit more about
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: the person and who they are. I felt like Hannah, geez,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: just kind of date idea of the etiquette class was
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: good and cute and fun, but it didn't help me
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: get to know her and all is that's something that
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: she does like on the side, is she? I mean,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: at the end of the episode she rapped for us.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Why not take him to a rapping class? I don't know,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: but she did so good at the rap and I
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: think that we saw the most personality from her we've
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: ever seen. That date seemed like the one that I
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: would most like to be part of. I mean, not
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: the manners part, the hometown part, Like the family part
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: was like, Okay, this is the family that would most
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: like to hang out with. They seem the most comfortable
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: to be around. The one that was grilling him a
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: little bit less, well do you think? Yeah? I agree?
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I mean her mom was the one in the whole
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: group that was distant, right, she didn't love this idea.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: She was the most protective in the whole group. But like,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: as the table kind of started talking, and especially in
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the little blooper at the end that we watched, you
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: saw this table and it looks like a fun table
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: to sit around, Like that's the table I want to
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: drink wine, talk life, wrap with laugh with like no
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: judgment at that table. Uh, but you know, the Handah
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: G Colton relationship is one that I do think has legs.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: She is still my front runner, um. But until the
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: very end of the episode, I still didn't see Hannah
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: G and Colton really laughed together. I just feel like
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: they make out a lot, which is great and that's fun,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: and I get it, but I wanted to see a
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: little more depth and and so maybe we just haven't
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: been shown it. Yeah, I think probably. I mean you
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: get to see at the end of the episode how
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: there are so many fantastic scenes that get cut out,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: so many scenes that do tell us more about their
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: personality that we don't get to see, And I think
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: that's unfortunate. If there's one thing I would change about
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: the format of the show is I just wanted to
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: be less like, let's talk about where we're at, let's
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: talk about my feelings for you, and I just want
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: to see what's made those feelings come about, because it
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: seems like that it seems like the wrapping scene, what
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: you're exactly right, Here's a part that blows my mind
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: about this date. The bread, the bread. Why would you
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: just put a little piece of butter on a big bread?
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Why do you even do it at all? Do not
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: tell me that is the fourmal proper way to do things,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: because I find that like disturbing. Are you kidding me?
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: You're going to like basically have to keep the butter
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: right there next to you. The butter tray is gonna
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: be right by you if you're doing that, and then
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: you're kind of, in a way double dipping, which is
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: totally anti manners. Who came up with this idea and
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: who sets the standard? Because I can tell you one thing.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: If I'm out the dinner with a stranger and every
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: time they take a bite, they're also taking that knife
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: and they're even getting it within a centimeter of where
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: their saliva has just leaked off with a piece of bread,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not in I'm done. Oh I would be so
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: grossed out if somebody did that on the first date
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: or like even like the first couple of dates. Oh
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: my god, I'm like, you're gonna keep doing that? I
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: am just distracted by you. Keep by you keep going
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: for the butter. No, I mean and secondly, and this
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: is this is one I have a strong feeling for
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: on a first day, right. I mean, I grew up
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: in a small town in Indiana. I'm here right now, um,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: and it's a great town, great people. Etiquette is not
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: something that we practice very often. We try really hard
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: to have manners and be polite and kind and say
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: you're please and thank you. But if I'm ever on
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the first date and i have a piece of bread
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: in front of me and I'm putting that bread in
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: my mouth, and and somebody looks at me and goes,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: that's bad manners or that's not the right etiquette, I'm
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: going to be so fast out the door that you
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: won't even see me. I don't want anybody being that uptight. No,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: that's true. I mean, you know, nap, get on your lap.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Sure if you're a nice enough restaurant, and that's like
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: a natural movement that. There are some kind of things
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: that I was just like, okay, this is too much,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: and some things that I'm like duh. Her family is acceptable,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: accepting of the idea. They support this relationship. I think
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: that we're seeing Ashley year of a year now. I've
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: been in it. Um, how hard it is. Hometown dates.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Hometowns dates made me so sick. I was sick to
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: my stomach every house before I went in, UM like sick,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: sick to my stomach. And I think Colton was the
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: same way, because you're sitting down with a father and
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: at some point you actually do I mean, I knew
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: with Lauren like this is gonna be something like I
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: want to be able to tell her father she's it.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I can't because there's still some time left, but I
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: want to be able to tell the father this. And
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: it's so nerve racking. It's so hard because you're so
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: stressed out, and hometown dates are not easy. We watched
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: on TV and and for the first time, I think
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: it's one of the only weeks in the show. Hometown
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: dates are a lot more dramatic in person than they
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: are when you watch it back then. You just brought
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: up two things that I wanted to talk about. I
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: used to look forward to hometown dates the as a
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: couple of years that I watched The Bachelor. I thought
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: they were really interesting to see where they came from
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: and to see their families. And now I find them
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: so formulaic that it's the most boring episode of the
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: entire season to me. UM I'm like, Okay, I know
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: you're concerned she's gonna get hurt. I know you're being protective.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I get it. It's like the same every single hometown,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: and it doesn't give me what I want. What I
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: want is to see like the personalities of them at
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: home and if they're going to drive with the family.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: But like, we know you don't want to get hurt.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: You don't you think it's weird to propose to somebody
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: that you've known for six weeks? So, Ben, that's what
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about asking permission. Why
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: does it have to happen at hometowns that seems like
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: such a production thing when you I think it would
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: be really nice. Is if you're like, I'm interested right
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: now and possibly marrying your daughter. Can I get your
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: phone number so I can call you in about two
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: weeks when I really have decided. Didn't you do something
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: like that? Didn't you call Lauren's dad? What made you call?
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Lauren said it's something weird happened. Did he say no,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: you don't have my permission? He didn't say no at all.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: He was actually terrific about it, but he just said
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: been like, I can see that there's something here. But
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I also don't want to treat this, uh in any
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: way that I wouldn't treat this in real life. If
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: you're serious about it, Like if this actually I don't
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: want you to talk to me and this maybe possibly
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: kind of talk. If you're serious about it and it
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: actually is my daughter, I want you to call me
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: and ask me. And I said I would love to
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: and so, um so I got his number and right
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: before I did, I did call him. And you can't
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: do that. It's it's a fair thing. I'm glad I did.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree with you. I don't think there's
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: something weird about the language of Hey, your daughter is
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: really special to me and I really care about her.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: But if I'm in this at the end and she's
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: in this at the end, then possibly maybe I'm gonna
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: fall for your daughter. It's like, what are you talking about, dude?
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Just call me if it's a thing, and I'll tell
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: you then, Like, I know, why can't why can't we
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: do every season the way you did it? I think
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Laura and said, I got it right, that's perfect. Well
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: he's a smart guy. He was a smart guy. Um, alright,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: So moving on here, Tasha. Tasha has this joy and
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: this bubblinus about her, and she also pulled one of
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: the moves that I would hate the absolute most if
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I was dating Casia on this show. Colton has been
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: traveling all across the country this this week. During the show,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: he's in houses back to back to back, and he
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: gets out and she literally pulls out all the stops
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: by making him have a date with one of his
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: biggest fears, which is jumping out of a plane. That
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: is one of the things I It's one of the
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: reasons actually that I'm not kidding when um when they
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: asked a few years ago or a year ago, whatever
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: it was, if I consider coming back, My thought was,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I made it a whole season without after jumping out
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: of anything. I don't want to go back, Like I
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: know that's coming, and could him to do it twice
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: he had to bungee jump, which I would not do.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I need to jump out of a plane, which absolutely
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: freaks me out. Yeah, when they had that shot of
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: the back of the plane opening and you see the ground,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: You're like, holy moly. In that moment you have to
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: be like, I'm going to lift my feet up and
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: fall like no way, I'm not doing that well, I was.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: What I'm confused about is a couple of weeks ago,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: he and Tasia I went bungee jumping, so she was like,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do part two of this day and
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: now we're going to jump out of a plane. It's
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: we didn't. We didn't acknowledge on the bungee jumping episode
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: that she was a fan of falling down. No, they
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: never said that that the bungee jumping was the thing
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: that you want to do. She actually seems scared of it,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden she is in adrenaline drunkie.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Is so intense ash I hate every second is I'm
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: watching Colton's face and you can see you can really
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: see in Colton's face that it's like I don't want
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: to be a good Batchel like I don't want to smile,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be here. I know I have
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: to do this, but I am so scared. His face
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: looked terrified. I know, and I don't know. It's just
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: kind of it's it was, is does she like having
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: these adrenaline field dates because maybe she thinks it bonds
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: them together more? Was this her little mec is them
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: to be like, oh, the endorphins will make us fall
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: more in love. I do like Tassia, and I do
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: think she's good for Colt because she does bring him
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: out of his show a little bit. And so we
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: have to ask. Then Tassa's dad did not give permission
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: immediately to Colton m to marry his daughter. I like
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: this move. I think I think like now, kind of
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: like you were saying earlier, we watched scenarios like this.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, Tassia's dad is like, you know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: the enemy here, and he's so mean and he's so
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: you know, tough. But I watched and I go, I
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: get it, Like he just loves his daughter. He's taking
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: this seriously. He's saying Tassia, like, come on, like, if
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: this is a real thing, didn't you ask? But right
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: now I'm not giving my permission. Yeah, this is I
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: guess this is the second. This is the first time
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: dads have been asked since I've been engaged. And you know,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Jared asked my dad, and I would want it no
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: other way. I love that tradition. But watching this back,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I felt it in a different way, of course, because
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: it's something that I've lived through, and I would not
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: want my dad to give permission if there's three other
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: girls in the picture. Not at all. No, it's just
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: seems weird and it seems soft. So it doesn't feel
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: like that there's enough credibility behind the relationship yet to
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: ask that question. So finally we have Cassie, who has
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: been a friend owner in our eyes ash since the
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: very beginning. We we like Cassie. She's absolutely gorgeous, She's smiley.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest. At the beginning of the season, I
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: thought I was very interested in Cassie and intrigued because
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: I thought that she might be one of those girls
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: that came on for maybe just just based on her
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: family history and kind of her Instagram, and I was like,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe she's not here for the right reasons.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: She's definitely here for the right reason. Her sisters dating
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: a celebrity. Do you know who he is? I forget who? Yeah,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I looked up his pictures. Good looking fellow, um, good
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: looking guy. And she's been on a reality show before.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I just want to explain why we thought possibly wrong
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: reasons iron Yeah, I mean she stood out to us,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: It stood out to me at least the beginning, like,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: all right, the background kind of points to something that
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: we've seen before, and it's it's not being here for
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: the right reasons. Now we definitely, I definitely believe she is.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: She's into it, she's being honest with Colton, she's not
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: overly explaining how much she feels. She's not lying to
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: him and her family. Her family is the one that's
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: the hardest on Colton. How did you perceive this situation?
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: It was What stands out to me is one and
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: her dad didn't give permission, which I thought was totally
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: fine what I just said, Um, but the sister really
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: the solo session between her and her sister made me
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: feel interesting. It made me feel like Cassie was like, Yeah,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I think my sister knows I'm not feeling this enough
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: right now. I think she knows me well enough to
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: know what I would look like if I was totally
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: head over heels and in love. And I think she's
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: catching me right now. What did you think that was?
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: That was the moment for me sitting on the back.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Agree with everything you said there. So let me ask
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: you and every be out there listening, just take a
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: second and think about this say that is where Cassie's at.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Say that she's not head over heels in love, but
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: say she's very interested in Colton. She cares a ton
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: about Colton. She likes him, and she wants to see
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: where this is going. Is it fair for her to
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: stay in it till the end if her feelings aren't
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: maybe that oh my gosh, this is it. I'm done marriage,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: let's go. Well, she was saying that she thought her
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: family was going to be a deciding factor in that,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: you know, when she was out by the beach, she goes,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping to get more answers later, and then they
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: sit outside the house after the family meeting and Cassie
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: is still like I got the answers that I needed
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: and he's like, on, what has that made you feel?
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: And she was like, it feels a guy need to
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: digest things a little bit longer. And he's just like suit,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: you can tell like his heart's just sinking in this moment,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: and he's like, I cannot believe this is happening. Like,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: you know, he's the probably the girl that he wants
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: to hear it from the most because he's so attracted
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: to her. But I mean, I think you're seeing it. Yeah,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: you're spot on. But Ben, do you think that he's
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: so attracted and so into her because he's she's giving
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: him the least because he likes the chase of it all. Yeah,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: it's like something he can't have. And I know that's
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: been something with Colton in the past, like in real life.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Is you know he likes what he can't have a
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: little bit, so um, maybe, you know. I think that
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: there is that element to it. And I also think
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: that if we were honest with ourselves, it's been a
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: few weeks now that Cassie is definitely the front runner.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: If we're just looking at from who is Colton? Who?
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Does Colton want to make it work with the most?
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: But the truth is, I'm interested in the next few weeks.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: If she doesn't reciprocate the feelings, say she leaves. I mean,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: we have a couple of huge weeks in front of us.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: We've seen previews for a while. There's something weird that's
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: gonna happen. If she doesn't reciprocate the feelings. Does Colton
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: even stay around? I mean at this point, is he
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: just trying to make it work with Cassie and just
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: kind of going through the other relationships to do it,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: or he's continuing to keep his mind open just in
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: case Cassie isn't into him. I don't know. Here's where
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: the show to me. Um, I don't know what the
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: right thing to do here is. If I was Colton
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: or Cassie, I would assume Cassie needs to stick it out.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: She's to figure out if she's into a not and
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: which she's not. She needs to leave on her own accord.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: If I'm Colton and I'm only interested in Cassie and
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I haven't kept my mind open to the other women,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: then if Cassie leaves, do you do? Do you just
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: in the show? Is that what happens? I feel like
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: right now she's a front runner, but she's not a
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: front runner enough for me to think that that Colton
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: isn't genuinely interested and he's just going through the motions
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: with the other girls. Okay, Um, But I do think
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Cassie's getting to a point where it's almost wrong to
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: be staying around. And it's weird because last week, when
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: she was defending herself against the allegations that Kerpa and
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Tasha were throwing, she was like, I am here for you.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I am into uba blah. And then all of a
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: sudden this week it's like, I'm not sure where I'm at. Yeah,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: she's I don't I don't see this be She's not
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: like sold on Colton at all. No, and she should
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: have been way more honest. Last week she was like,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing where this is going. But
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: then this week I felt like she was more like, Okay,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I really should probably make a decision soon. I don't know.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I really I don't think she's being completely honest with
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: herself right now, but I do. I would probably say
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I'd give her a little bit longer it out. Would
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: you if I definitely would Would you want if a
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: girl in on your season came to you this week
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: going into Fantasy week week, would you wanted her to
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: say I'm not in love with you yet, I'm still
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: trying to get there, or would you be like, Okay,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: that's a red flag that I need to let her
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: go now, you know, Ashley, that's such a good question.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I think, if I'm sitting there and the one that
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: I'm most interested in, or if the front runner of
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: my eyes, the one that I could see a future
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: with is, and I'm sitting there pouring my heart out
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: to her, knowing I'm almost towards the end. I'm so
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: close and I found somebody that I want to have
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: a life with, and she's looking back at me, going,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I just don't know if I'm there. Not only does
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: it shake your confidence a lot, right, I mean you
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: have to have confidence in the situation as the bachelor
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: bachel atte because there's so many things swirling around you
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: at once, and you're you're you know, you're dating so
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: many people, so it would definitely hurt your confidence. It
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: makes you question everything. Um. But all I would ask
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: from her, and I don't know if I'd be prepared
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: for it would be to be as honest as possible
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: with me so that I don't set myself up for
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: embarrassment and failure. The worst thing that could happen in
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: this moment, the worst thing as a bachelor bachelor as
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: if you think this person loves you, you think you
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: you know you love them, you know yourself, and you
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: get down one knee and they say, I'm sorry, I can't.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Is that the worst thing? Or is it worst to
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: end up being with somebody who does say yes? Or
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: your proposal but didn't really mean it. I don't wish that.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I don't wish that upon anybody. Yeah, that might be worse.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I think that's worse. Actually, yeah, that's the worst thing.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: The second worst will be getting down one knee and
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: being embarrassed. But I would hope that if somebody didn't
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: mean it, they would have left before that day. Yeah. Um,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: But I think my big takeaway from Cassie's date hometown
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: date was that I think he likes the chase, and
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I think there is a part of him that is
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: scared deep down to be completely in mutual love with somebody.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: And I only say this because it is something that
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: I think I was very scared of ununtil the Bachelor
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: process kind of knocked it out of me. And I
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: always said that, like, I think I'll always end up
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: if like, if a guy ever ended up liking me
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: and then I liked him, and then he ended up
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: liking me and we were like got to the point
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: where we could be in a real relationship, I would
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: push him away and I'd be like, I don't like
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: him anymore. Gross, I don't like him. And I said
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: the one time that I go, I know that I
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: will find my husband. I know my husband will be
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: the one guy that I don't push away when it
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: becomes mutual. And that's what happened. And look at Jared now. Uh,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be an interesting last couple of weeks.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: We've got a lot ahead of us coming up on
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: on this show and up on Colton's season. Also, we
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: gotta start talking who's gonna be the next bachelor at
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I think we wait till next week to do that.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Right now, my front runners for Colton are handah gee,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: because I don't think Cassie makes to the end than Cassie,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: than Tassia. Uh what do you think? I think that
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: I saw some stuff at Women Tell All last week,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: like the fence jump, which makes me tell you confirmed
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: to you, this is the most dramatic season you have
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: ever seen of my ten years of watching this show.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I it was I was so entertained. You guys, you
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: are in for something. No matter whether you think you've
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: been spoiled or whether you think the fence jump is
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: not going to live up to the expectations, because it
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: has just been previewed over and over again this season.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I swear to you you're going to be satisfied, and
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: more after the fence jump happens next week, satisfied as like,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: are you serious? Yeah? And I got permission to tease that,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: so I don't even feel guilty telling you guys, so
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: like does this I mean, actually, you've got everybody on
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: the edge of their seats right now. In the next
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know, two episodes, you were at a woman
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: tell all, so we didn't see the whole shebang. Usually
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: they show us a lot more than they showed us,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: but the part that they showed of the fence jump
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: makes you be like, whoa, whoa. This is the most
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: ramatic season matter And and be honest here that's the
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: last question I don't want to think too deep. Is
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: it a facade? Is it fake? Or is this a
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: real like a real emotional reaction from Colton to jump
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: a fence. It's such a it's like a frenzy like
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: came over him and he didn't know what to do
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: and he just needed to escape, and like that was
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: what he did. Like it's truly an escape. And and
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I saw it with the whole room of press and
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: everybody was just floored. But also it had me being
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: like I don't know how I'm going to not talk
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: about this for the next days, like next ten days,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: because there was like a friend see coming over me
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: being like, oh my god, I must dissect this. I
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: must talk, I must talk. But I keep saying to
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: my friends and my family, I'm like, it's it's worth
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: the moment which you're gonna see it, So I don't
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: want to tell you, Like I don't want to tell
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: you because I want you to see it the way
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I saw it. Gali, g We've got a couple of
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: big weeks ahead of us. Uh. We also have a
• 40:23
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• 40:26
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• 43:35
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  Speaker 1: the only. Jessica Clark. Hey, Hey, it is so good
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  Speaker 1: to hear your voice. I have been asked so much
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: in the past week if I've met Ben's new girl,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, but I'm going to meet her
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: on the podcast next week. If this counts. I think
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: it counts because I'm going to ask you some real questions,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: some questions I would probably ask you if I was
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: sitting across from you at dinner anyway, and have your
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: permission to do so, you can grill this girl. Okay, Well,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: my first question is for both of you. Ben, you
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: found her on Instagram. You slid into her d M S.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: I think you've talked about that on the podcast already.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: My question is, how did you come across her Instagram?
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Because she's not an influencer, she doesn't have a crazy
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: amount of followers I did. This is the weirdest thing
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: I've ever heard. Somebody told me this week that eighty
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: weeks ago, Wells Adams liked one of your pictures, Jess
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: and people want to know whether there's any connection there
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: as to you coming across our profile or is that
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: just a Nashville connection connection, an old Old Miss connection
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: because you went to Old Miss, Ben, do you like
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: have a grudge against Wells right now for for this?
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: You think he was trying to hit on her? No,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: there's so much to this story, so much here, right,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: And I just got a text last night. Actually Ashley
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Chris Strandberg knows Jessica. But here's a deal. Jessica has
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: never ever dated, nor has she kissed any other Bachelor people.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: But here's here's the backstory of all this. So jess
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: went to Old Miss with Wells Manning and Eli Manning. Yeah,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: good for you. And so when I first started talking
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: to jess I texted Wells because I saw that we
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: both followed her, And I said, what do you know
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: about this Jessica Clarker And he goes, I know she's
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: beautiful and if you're talking to her, you're a lucky guy.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: And so, um, I don't think jess tell me if
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: I'm wrong. But there's no like really backstory to you
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: and Wells' relationship, right, No, No, you guys want to
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Old Miss like a decade apart though, So how'd that come?
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Across How that comes about? I mean, I was, I
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: guess it was just one of those things I honestly
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: couldn't tell you. I mean, he was keeping up with
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: the you girls at all. Miss alright, alright, so then Ben,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: how did you come across her Instagram? Yeah? So it's wild,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: It's so funny. Um, here's a true story. I've kind
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: of held back on it for a little bit. But
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: I was in uh, Nashville for fundraiser for Humane Hope
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Night died, and we were doing this massive fundraiser, and
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: it was in August of two thousand and eighteen, and
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: I was staying at a hotel downtown right by the
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Predator Stadium. And so what happened was I was checking
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: in and there's a whole sports team checking in as well,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: and there are big dudes, and I knew they're like professional,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: but I didn't know who they were. None of them
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: have like any type of like logos on or anything.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: And so I go to my room and I got
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: on Instagram and I looked up the top post because
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: I figured whoever was staying there had posted that they
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: were in Nashville or posted like there nearby. Well, so
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: when I got on the top post section of my location,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: which was the hotel. Jessica's picture popped up because she
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: was at the Nashville Predator her game with her dad,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: and I was just scrolling through and I saw this picture.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I was like, holy how this girl is gorgeous. Like,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: so I clicked on her her profile and then I
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: was like, but what am I gonna do with this?
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Like I'm not just gonna message her out of nowhere.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: This is creepy and this is weird, but this girl's
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: gorgeous and so and in the most normal way possible,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: I screenshot him her profile without knowing her, and I
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: kind of forgot about it. And and then six months
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: later or actually no, not a little bit under. So
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: I was in uh. I was an at home for Thanksgiving.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: I was cleaning out my phone and I got back
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: on my phone. As I was cleaning out, I came
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: across the picture of game and I was like, you
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: know what. I was looking up her pictures and I
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: saw her profile and I saw the way she she
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: would comment on stuff, and I was like, you know what,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do it, And so I message her
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: and I think, jess tell me if I'm wrong, but
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: I said something along the lines of, don't ask too
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: much of how I saw your profile. I can explain
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: that the dator, but if you're single, please message back.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: That is so cute. It is also cute the way
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: you screenshot it. Then you went back and you're like,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: I like her interactions. You felt so compelled, and I
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: think it was not because her just her appearance, but
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: like you kind of sensed a goodness from her, oh
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: just way. I mean, Jessica has this like just very
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: pure heart, and so yes, when you talked to her,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: even for the first time, this is one of the things, Ashley,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: that I think is so awesome. So jess and I
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: was just texting back and forth for I think three days,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: and I had texted her one day like I'm stressed
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: out or there was something going on, or I asked
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: her some question from church that I was confused about.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: And instead of just like texting back something small, she
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: voice messaged me and kind of like took I don't know,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: forty five seconds to explain this topic that was really
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: kind of laid on my heart. And I was like, Yes,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: this is the type of person that I want to
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I want to pursue at the best of my ability.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: That is so adorable. So, jess how did you Jess
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: or Jessica? Either one. I feel like most people just
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: call me Jess's shorter Jessicas formal Jessica Clark sounds like
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: a movie star name. Thank You've actually never gotten that before.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: But yeah, most people will just call me jes Okay,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: So what did you feel? What do you think when
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: you saw Ben Higgins slid into your d M s
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Are you a Bachelor fan? Did you know who he
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: was or did you just see that blue checkmark and
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: think who is this? Um? Well, first of all, I
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: mean I didn't follow him or anything, and so whenever
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: I saw it, it was like Higgins dots in and
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: so I thought it might just be like a spam
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: or something, because I mean, you have everyone has heard
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: of his name, you know, just being on Instagram or
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: being a girl or whatever it may be. So I
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: thought it was just like some random spam account or
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: something miss doing me. So I didn't even check it
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: for a while, and then I went back and checked
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: it and I saw like the blue tech mark, and
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is interesting, and then kind of
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: looked and saw that it was him, and I was like, well,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I have no idea how he saw me because like
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: he says, like I was by no meat adam by
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: no means an influencer, any of those things. So I
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: had no idea how he fought my profile. So I, god,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: will look curious and replied to his message, but I was, Yeah,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: at first, I didn't even think it was real. So
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: you're not a Bachelor fan, You weren't like you wouldn't
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: freak out over You just thought it was a little weird.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Did you think it was cute? His approach, the way
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: he said, don't ask how I came across your profile? Yeah,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: I thought it was really cute because like it was
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: just it was very unassuming. Um, which is I mean
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: still is one of my favorite qualities about Ben is
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: he's just so like humble and I feel like he
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: doesn't realize how great he is. But him just being like,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: I don't even ask how I saw and you like
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: make you care. I don't know, it was it was
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: just very his whole approach to it. I need to
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: find exactly what the first message said because I remember
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: being like, this is hilarious and really cute. Did you
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: have a Bachelor. Do you have Bachelor fan friends who geeked? Yes? Actually, um,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: some of my cousins listen to this podcast, so if
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: they're listening, given this doubt out, but yeah, I have
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: friends that are fans, and um, I got invited to
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: go watch The Bachelor denied one of my friends houses.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely, Jess, you have to tell everybody out
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: there though, UM, be honest, because I originally was not
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: talking to you. Who was I talking to? Oh my
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: little brother really helped me out with replying to messages.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. I think it's common because I talked to
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: more and more girls about this and tell them about
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: how I met Jess, and I was like, yeah, but
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: when I first semeshed her, she didn't know how to
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: respond everything, so she kind of let her brother help her. Um,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: and girls like, oh, I do that, like my best
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: guy friend or whoever. It is, like, I would let
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: them message for me anytime, and guys trying to like
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: flirt with me. So I think that's common. It's really
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: really smart. But my sister always used to like crap
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: from my text too. I could never send a text
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: to a guy that I liked without having her approval. No,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: you've got to dance office some people because like especially me,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: then we'll tell you I have an interesting since it humor,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: sometimes it's a little done, and so I feel like
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: I would have started to just like crack some joke
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: chair there and they wouldn't have landed very well. So
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: I had to have someone helped me out. It's hard
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: to have your first communication through text because you don't
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: have tone. You know, a lot of sarcasms cross. So
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: speaking of when did you guys get on the phone
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: and start talking to each other? Since that voice memo
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: really made an impact on him? Right after I sent
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: the voice memo, Okay, yeah, way to make an impression.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: She took the first lead there. Yeah, she leaves a
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: voice memoh, and I was like, I cannot go any
• 54:54
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  Speaker 1: some many more questions. Okay, all right, Well everybody has
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  Speaker 1: been talking about the fact that you are so normal.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Is that is that like offensive? Or You're like, yeah,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: I'm normal. Isn't it great? I mean normal? I mean like,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: you're not famous, you haven't kissed multiple Bachelor contestants before you,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: you didn't have a gigantic social media following before all this,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: what do you do? Oh? Well, first of all, I
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: think that being normal is a compliment. I agrea talk
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: about this all the time. I feel like this saying
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: that someone is like normal is so rare nowadays that
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: I take that as a compliment. Um. But yeah, I
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: mean I have a full time job by work in
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: architectural lighting. So um, I'm in the sales department. I
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: meet with people and get their lighting packages for a
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: new construction. So good to construction sites too. It's just
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: a very It's a great job. Live in Nashville, and yeah,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: I just have a very, like we said, normal life.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Former d one long distance runner. Wow, that's awesome. That
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: was just part of college so just for a little bit.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: But do you guys work out together? Are you like
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: that couple? We haven't yet. The one time we had
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: the opportunity to, I had just gotten off the plane,
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: so I let be and do that on his own. Yeah,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: she did. But I'm worried about it, ask because I
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: you know, we've talked about before. I pride myself on
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: my running abilities, or you know, I want I try.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to do a trap on the next two months,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: and uh, I bet Jess if we were to sprint
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: a mile right now, with what her times are, she'd
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: beat me by over a minute. Like you know how
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: discouraging that is when a five ft two person just
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: like sprints past you and just keeps going and you're
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: trying to catch up. If I don't need it like
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: that that, I can feel like, Okay, that's a little embarrassing,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: but also it's kind of awesome that your lady can
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: beat you. She can tear me up. I mean, it
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: wouldn't even be close, and she would, she would dominate me.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: And the thing is with jess because you can probably
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: hear through this interview, she just kind of like giggles
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: and smiles like I don't, I don't. She's competitive, very competitive,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: but she's very like um sweet too, So I think
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: she would probably run by and just giggle and laugh
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: and smile, And I think that would make me so angry.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: I probably would, I think, because I'm making that um so,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: you know, as we talked about, Jessica has this like
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: crazy crazy like I mean, normal life, but it's not
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: much different actually if we break down than ours, right,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, now we get to do podcasts and
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: stuff like that, but our lives have kind of gone
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: after the show, everybody's life kind of goes back to
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: normal per se um, and so for me, it's just
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: awesome to be able to meet somebody that isn't having
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: massive expectations for where life needs to continue to go.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: She's just she's really content and excited about wherever life
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: is taking us. That's awesome. So Ben lives in Denver.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: You live in Nashville? Are you born and raised there? Well?
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: I was born in Atlanta, but I mean it's natural spot,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: so I play Nashville at home first. Okay, So I mean,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: I know we were only three months in two year
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: OLS relationship, and I don't want to like ask when
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: there's like a move happening. That's way too early to tell.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: But who's doing the most traveling? Is it equals be
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: always coming to you? Are you always being sent to Denver? Bye? Ben? No,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: it's been pretty equal. I feel like, um, we've definitely
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: done a good job of kind of going to both
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: places and spending some time in each other's tones, and
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: then we got to go to Hunters the other office.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: So I would say at this point we've done a
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: equal travel for sure. Ben. You know, I agree, we've
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: been equal. She's definitely put in more work, I think
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: towards traveling, just because I've been gone and my schedule
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: ge is crazy, and so it's hard for me to
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: bounce around. But we have. I mean, I've made it
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: to Nashville, met her family, stayed with their family a
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: few few days, got to meet her her dog, Penny,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: who's who's just a sweet old dog. Um. And it's working.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: I do think this, and for anybody out there listening,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: any advice on long distance relationships would be incredibly helpful.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: So email us have been an Ashley I heart media
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  Speaker 1: dot com. But long distance hasn't been easy in the
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: sense of, hey, I want to see this girl, I
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: want to hang out with this girl. I want to
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: screwed me my family and my friends. And we're trying
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: to do our best at that. But when a life
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: is already busy, it's really hard to find, you know,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: two or three days and then travel again even though
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: you want to. So we're trying to get better at it.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get better at it and kind of
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: figure out how to do it well. But yeah, so far,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: I think it's been very even or equal. But we
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: definitely have had gone a month without seeing each other
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: and I don't that's not ideal for me. That's what
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: I was going to ask is how long has too
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: long been? And how how much is the goal time
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: to see each other? Just how you want to see me?
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, well, we're honest every day. But realistically, she's
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: been smiling. This is entire interview. I truly have not
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: ever seen Ben this happy. She's great. Um oh yeah
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: it realistically, I feel like after two weeks is when
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: it really gets hard. And whenever we went a month,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: it has been seeing each other, what three weeks, three
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: weeks in a row that time, right, yeah, and then
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: we went a month about seeing each other, so that
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: was like the work, So we can't have that happen again.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: How often do you FaceTime? Sorry, I'm getting to the
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: nitty gertie, Oh what we say? Time every day? Probably? Yeah,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: it's I mean, honestly, FaceTime is really great. We Jessica
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: has a really good friend whose husband is in the
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: military and he, you know, gets deployed for months at
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: a time, and so we met with them for dinner
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: one night. We're kind of asking them how they do
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: it because he's gone and sometimes they can't talk for
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: weeks on end. And I think the what we found
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: out is that FaceTime is the saver. Like it is.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's such a benefit now the relationships that
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: you can still see the person, you can still interact
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: with them, but you know, it's still better to be
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: around them. But yeah, I think we FaceTime every day
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: and there's no reason not to. Yeah, I don't think.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Uh now, I know Ben said that there was the
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: moment where he was like, I want to I didn't
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: want to go after this girl, you know, I would
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: really want to pursue her, which was when you sent
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: that voice memo. In real life, was there a moment,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: like a bonding moment in which you guys said, Okay,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: this is gonna be something serious. Do you remember our
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: conversation like that that you're willing to talk about. Ben's nodding,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. If you want to keep it private,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: that's fine, Jesse, what are you gonna say? Uh? You know,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: Jessica came out to Denver for the first time and
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: what happened was ash is We. It was a night
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: of Ashkara's opening, so the restaurant opening was the same
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: night and the night before I've been working all night
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: trying to get set up for the restaurant open up.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: And I had texted her was like a Thursday, and
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: I said, Jess, we would talk for three weeks at
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: this point four weeks. It's getting it's great, it's good. Um,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: I feel like I know you really well, but I'm
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: just tired of just talking to you. I need to
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: get you out here. And I said, how about you
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: book a flight and flight out here tomorrow and so
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: she did. Um, she agreed and she flew out and
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: then I had the I started opening. She didn't land
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: and get to my house till it's probably close to midnight.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: So I was tired and had been at the restaurant opening.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: And I walked outside and she's standing there and we
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: like embraced and we hugged, and she came inside. Um,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: we just started talking again and it was so comfortable,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: so amazing, and I felt like I know this knew
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: this girl so well, and she was even more beautiful
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: in person than she was on FaceTime or through Instagram whatever.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: That was like that was a moment for me that
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: it just clicked that, Um, this was something special like
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: this was going to be something that I was excited
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: about for a long time. So for me, it was
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: at first interaction in person, which obviously feels fast, but
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: when you FaceTime and you're talk on the phone for
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: three and a half weeks straight, you really get to
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: know the person. I was gonna say, how nerve racking
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: was that for you just to like fly out to
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: a different city to stay over at a guy's house
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: that you had never met before, and you're like, Okay,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: this is like that awkward moments like we kind of
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: know each other, but like we've never even felt each
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: other's skin, like we've never even touched. Well, it was
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, I wanted to see him so badly obviously,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: so when he suggested, I was like all in, like
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: all about it. And then my flight got lit. My
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: original flight got delayed, so I got on another flight barely.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: I made it by like thirty minutes. But I was
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: sitting in the airport and I was facetiming one of
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: my friends and she was like, have you thought about
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: like what you're getting, like catfish or something. I was like,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: I was like, well no, because I was like this
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: time he was like if you're like, well, yeah, but
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: what if feel like going to the wrong house or something,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: because like I mean, he had a dressmar opening, so
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: he wasn't taking up from the airport or whatever. And
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: I was like, I really haven't even thought about this.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: And it was rightfaspar I got on the plane. When
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: I get on the plane and I land in Denver,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: and I called in to tell him so I know
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: that I landed, and he didn't answer because he was
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: a restaurant is ny and it was I mean, it
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: was probably three minutes before he called me back, like
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: it wasn't very long, but I was on the airplane
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my gosh, I'm stuck in Denver.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know anybody not answering his phone. Like my
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: friend was right, I was breaking out. So then when
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: he called me, and then he called me the whole
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: uber ride to his house and then when I saw him,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: it was just like, I mean, the exact same thing.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: It was like I've known him for forever, and um,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: I wasn't nervous at all. It was immediately very very comfortable. Okay,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: So then how did your first kiss him up come about?
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Can I ask that? Yeah, you can ask that. How
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: did that come about? Um, as soon as you saw me,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: it was Yeah. I think I walked outside and just
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: laid it. Yeah. Yeah, how romantic. I think it was romantic. Yeah,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: I mean I thought it was drantic, mostly because when
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: I saw you, I was like, okay, do I make
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: a differ? I just say hi, and then he just
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: kiss me, so I didn't have to do either of them.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that's what happens when you date a bachelor.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Like what he's doing. He's not worried about kissing women
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: for the first time. He just made the grand move. Damn.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: Then this went for it and she didn't say, all right,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: well that is the best way to make that situation
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: not awkward. You're like, we do know each other, it
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter we've never been in the same room together. Okay. Um,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: last question is that you were Ben seemed to moved
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: by that one voice memo, which seems to have come
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: about because it's something that he heard in church. Do
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: you share his faith because I know that's super important
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: for him to find somebody who does. Yes. I mean,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: that was one of the first conversations he has and
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: I'm so thankful. I think Ben actually brought it up.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: But I feel like that's just the foundation that if
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: you share your faith, don't share your faith, whatever your beliefs,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: maybe you have to have that fundamental sounds like you
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: have to agree on these fundamentals, and then from there
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: you can build relationships. So we have the foundational belief
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: and from there you've been able to those relationships. Mm hmm,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: that's true. I mean, I think the one thing and
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Jess knows us about me, and I think most people
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: out there listening now, is my faith is is I mean,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: I believe in Christ as much as I can and
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: and but what happens with that is my like life
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: has also been full of a bunch of doubts and questions,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: and my mind kind of goes in a thousands of
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: correct directions, and it's hard for me to comprehend who
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: God is and what he's trying to do in the
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: specific moments. And Jess is just consistent. She's a great listener,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: she's incredibly intelligent and able to talk through some of
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: those things. And and for me, that's just beyond exciting
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: that I have somebody that not only just like like
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: to laugh with and and joke with with it you
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: know when when I sit down, I mean, there's not
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: a day go by that I think I don't text
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Jess like, oh, I'm struggling with this. I mean, I
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: honestly I struggle a lot. I think she's understanding that now,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: and she just every time responds with like just such
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: patience and grace and understanding and just willing to just
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: let me like pour out whatever it is on my heart.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: And so she definitely shares the same faith, and if anything,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: she pushes me to explore like even closer relationship with
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: God than I have today. So yes, I have a
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: question for Jess. If you don't mind, it's hi Jeff.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: My name is Marky. Have you been tempted to go
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime and watch Ben season? No, I don't
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: want to see him with a bunch of other girls.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: I don't blame you, but I feel like you've just
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: curious to even watched the first episode, even just for laughs,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: and how young he looks are, how silly things you
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: can make fun of him about. I don't know. I
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: don't know that I could was just a temptation. If
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: it was me, I haven't really thought about just watching
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: the first time. Maybe I would watch it with him.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: You know that I can make fun of him. Can
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: I give you a suggestion just so you can fall
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: deeper in love with with Ben And I don't want
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: to like, you know, just boom the love word there,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: but just go with it. Um, you should watch the
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: The Day on Caitlin Bristow season in which he gives
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: a sex talk to the kids in a like third
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: grade class. It is it's the moment that America, I think,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: fell in love with Ben, when he became the perfect Ben. Yes,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: and then you will be able. You won't see him
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: kissing her or anything. It's just like one scene just talking,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: just talking about ovarias and semen and everything and you
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: definitely I would like to see how you present that
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: topic that could say a lot about you. It was
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: so good. It was improbably just before let you go,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: because I know you've got a ton of lights to sell.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Um and uh, I want. I think it would be
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: on the podcast multiple times in the future, you know,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: with all this happening right now, right mean, just let's
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: focus on the new relationship and everything going on in
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: our lives. You just down to Honduras and you get
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: to to see my life a little bit more, UM,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: can you let all of our listeners out there, because
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be massive fans of yours. They're just gonna
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: love you so much. UM Like, if if all this
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: wherever this goes, what do you hope? What do you
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: hope your legacy is in this world? UM? I just
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: hope that people leave every interact with me, whether it
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: be on social media or in person or UM on
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: your podcast or whatever it may be, and they just
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: feel like it was a positive interaction. So whether that's
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: um all these people going to my Instagram page and
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: just be in that I live in normal life and
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: that makes them feel better about their normal lives, or
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: if um I can give an encouraging word or as
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: there someone in their space, or whatever it may be.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: I just hope that people leave interactions with me feeling positive.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: You are seriously a perfect match for Ben Higgins. I
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: am so excited to see where your relationship goes. And
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: I'm so happy to see this incredibly lit face that
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: he has the entire time he talks to you. So
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: thank you for coming on, Jess. I had way more
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: questions than I ever thought I would, and he's in
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: a good sport well, you can get my number from
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: then and you can ask me. Oh, I think I've
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: donne for now. I just I look forward to the
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: time that we actually can have us sit down dinner. Yes,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: all right, we'll talk to you later. Thank you so much.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: Than bye, Ben. Are you the cutest right now? Are
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: you just so happy? So I'm so proud of her.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: She's so great. She's perfect for you. Yeah, it's wild.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: She's really great. And I mean, if you just saw
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: the way that she interacts with people, like she said,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's so inspiring and encouraging to me.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: Like when I I think I've talked about on the
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: podcast before, one of my worst qualities is that I
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: dismiss people pretty quickly, Like if if something happens and
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: they maybe make me angry or I feel like they
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: aren't living up to my expectations, or they've said something
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: that does something like I dismissed them, and that's not good.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: I don't like any second of that. And I'm I'm
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: combating that, and it's a struggle that consistently face um.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: And it's amazing that when Jess like interacts with people
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: and I know they're doing things that maybe like upset
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: her or hurt her, they have said something to like
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: push make distance between them. She just leans in and
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: and try and goes farther into them and doesn't dismiss them.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: She just loves them harder and more. And for me,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: that's just such a a good example for me on
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: on how I need to deal with people and how
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: I want to deal with people. So, yeah, this Jessica
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: Clark girl, she's something special. That's the perfect compliment for you.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: All Right, Hey, I don't know how we move on
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: to it, but we're to move on to it from
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: this with one of the wildest craziest stories to ever
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: occur in Bachelor Nation, a feud between Mike Fliss and
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: the Kardashians. Actually, Jared and I were like, we're not
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: getting into this because it's so many Bachelor people were,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: you know, given their two cents on Twitter on Saturday night,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, no, I'm going to sit back, Dad,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: You're embarrassing me, is what we joked. Oh, it's insane,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: It's absolutely insane. So here, um, let's start out this
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: conversation as by giving a little background. We've got an
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: email from Katie. I read this article about a possibility
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: of Chloe Kardashian becoming the next Bachelor. Of having someone
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: so famous would change the field the show. In my opinion,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: I could see it being really fun to watch. But
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: in Ashley, I'm dying to hear your thoughts. So, Ashley,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: before we get into what happened okay with the feud
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: between Mike Fleiss and the Kardashians, what do you think?
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Obviously this gets brought up because is Tristan Thompson has
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: um I guess cheated on Chloe Kardashian with one of
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: their best friends. Um that comes out in the news,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: and now Mike Flye tweets Chloe Kardashian could be the
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: next Batch? Right? Do you like this idea? I mean,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: if this was the case right now, let's say Chloe Kardashian,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: or let's say Cardi B. Or whoever it is out
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: there that's famous and single. I don't know if Cardi
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: B's even single anymore? Do you like the idea of
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: them being the bachelor? At so? I understand people's point
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: of view when they say that they want like a
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: regular person, somebody who doesn't have all the fame and
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: fortune to get the opportunity. Totally get it. The only
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: reason that I like it is because we've followed Chloe's
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: love life for the past decade. We've seen her struggles
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: between her marriage with Lamar and now this second cheating
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: stint by Tristan, and I think like Chloe has always
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: been a rootable Kardashian. I think she's always been the
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: one that everybody like. Even if you're not into the Kardashians,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: you you feel for Chloe. And I just feel like
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: it would be cool because even though most of us
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: have never met her, we still like we we feel
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: for her, and we feel like we know her, so
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: almost like watching like your friend from TV go and
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: find love. That's why I like it, But I understand
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: why people wouldn't like it too. And I also Chloe
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to be the bachelorrette, so I'm not I'm
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: not talking about her. You know, no, Chloe understand we are.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: We're using this click fait, and I'm so sorry, actually
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: so protective enough, But I mean, here's actually, here's my concern.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: There's ultimately an end in all of this. At some
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: point the show will end. How do you if you
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: have like a Kardashian or if you have somebody extremely
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: popular and famous as your bachelor or bachelor, how then
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: do you move on? You can't sustain that, and so
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: then does the show go back to the formatutes at now?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like that's the beginning of the
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: end once you kind of have this massive name as
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: your front runner. Yeah, it's kind of like jumping the shark,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: which is an expression when like the shows lose it.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe go out with a bang, Maybe go
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: out with a celebrity, which would be kind of cool,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: but probably keep it the way it's been for a while,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: because look, you've gotten eighteen years of success from bringing
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: randoms to find love, So why messed the formula? I
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: agree you, Spie will kind of let this fade out,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: that's my fear. But Ben, I think that the reason
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: that this became so hot was because it was such
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: a hot topic last week between you know, the whole
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: the whole Kardashian drama, but also it happened the day
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: after a big Bachelor episode in which people were feeling
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: like they don't have a clear front runner for Bachelorette
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: because so many of the raigning girls are twenty three
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: or twenty four and I think that people aren't going
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: to be okay with the twenty or twenty four year
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: old bachelor. And even though the season has been so compelling,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: there isn't a clear front runner for Bachelor wrette. And
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: then it was like, oh wait, now we have an answer.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: And that's why the Chloe thing picked up steam so fast. Well,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: and obviously it's such a a creative idea. I feel
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: like Mike Fliss always knows what he's doing. I mean,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: he just he knew what he was doing here. He
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: knew that this wasn't gonna be a thing, and it works.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: So here, everybody out there listening, I'll give you a
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: little rundown. As we talked about Chloe Kardashian was rumored
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: to be and talk to me the next Bachelor at
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: by show creator Mike Fleiss. Mike Fleiss stayed very open
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: about this idea by tweeting about it on his Twitter saying, Hey,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: I'm just here to help Chloe Kardashian find love. Um,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: we're in talks with her mom. All of these things.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: Batchelor Nation starts to jump on board with it. I know,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: Tanner Tolbert tweeted, I know, Amanda Stanton tweeted both excited
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: about the idea and as this is happening, Chloe has
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: this response on her Twitter, I'm not effing clickbait right now,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: stop or you will be hearing from my lawyers. How insensitive.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian then tweets fake effing news big time. I
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: mean there he he did. I mean, think about all
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: the things said about them, think about all the news
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: that's ever spread about them, and they're actually personally responding
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: to this, which makes me think, Ashley, is this really
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: a thing? Like are they mad or are they all
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: on this together? No, they're mad because because Flace does
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: what he does, and he loves cryptic tweets that make
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: us all talk. I don't think he thought he was
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: going to get actually caught here, Like, I don't think
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: he think he thought they were going to go to
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: the next step, in which he says, how would Kim
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: Kardashian know this is between Chris Jenner and and and
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: most importantly Chloe Kardashian. Well, it's like, Mike, what do
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: you think they are a close family? We all know
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: they're close family and they're very uh together when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to business. So Kim then responds with a screenshot saying,
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  Speaker 1: are you guys in talks with the Bachelorette, And then
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  Speaker 1: Chris goes no, L O L and then Chloe says, you,
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  Speaker 1: I mean put some respect behind my game, which I
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  Speaker 1: think all of us who are Kardashian fans in the
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor family. But reading that and then let's see that
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  Speaker 1: I didn't like it. Don't don't tell me to put
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  Speaker 1: that that being in the Bachelor A bachelor isn't respectful.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you can make it respectful. There has been
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  Speaker 1: people on the show that have not carried themselves with respect,
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  Speaker 1: and I came off the show and had less respect respect.
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  Speaker 1: But we're all people, no matter if you're a Kardashian
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  Speaker 1: or a Kardashian West, or if you're Chloe or Kim
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  Speaker 1: or Chris, or if you're somebody that got gets kicked
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  Speaker 1: off on night one, you we are people. And I mean,
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  Speaker 1: let's be honest, at the end of the day, we're
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  Speaker 1: all just on reality television. Or let's bring it down
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  Speaker 1: even further, we're all just living in a reality and
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  Speaker 1: so let's I don't love just like I don't disrespect
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  Speaker 1: the Kardashian family or who you know what for whatever
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  Speaker 1: they do. I don't love that tweet. Tax I don't
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: love the text either, And it's weird because I think
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  Speaker 1: this whole thing became even even bigger than just speculation
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: because Chris Jenner has been outspoken about being a Bachelor fan.
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  Speaker 1: So to me, when Mike Flice was saying in talks
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: with Chris Jenner, which is obviously Chloe's manager, I was like, oh, wait,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: this could actually be real because I know that he
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: probably does have her number because she's come on The
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise after show like she's she's called in before,
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  Speaker 1: and she's been on the show like she's a fan.
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  Speaker 1: So I thought there could be some legitimacy to it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I hosted The Bachelor in Paradise after show
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  Speaker 1: and my Bachelor after show because back when I was Bachelor,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: we had an after show. Yeah, um with her, I
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: mean she was there, so yeah, this isn't a crazy idea.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, but again, this whole thing gets wild. It
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  Speaker 1: feels so big. I mean, it's one of those moments.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it meant to turn into this
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: or not, but it feels so big when you have
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  Speaker 1: I mean I'm looking at Kim's profile right now. Just
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: a tweet that she did that had dot dot dot
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  Speaker 1: Mike Flies has over a hundred and forty thousand likes.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, if this isn't great for the show, I
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: don't know one is. Mike Fly finishes this conversation by
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: tweeting one of the things we look for and choosing
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor apt is a great sense of humor. Might
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: be time to look elsewhere. I sincerely offered our assistance.
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  Speaker 1: If a certain someone thinks here she doesn't need our
• 1:23:25
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• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: the end of the conversation. Ashley, do you like this story? Like?
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  Speaker 1: Is this? Is this something that it's funny? Um? For
• 1:23:37
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• 1:23:39
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• 1:23:43
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  Speaker 1: I think it was all good drama. I think it
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  Speaker 1: was all fun to watch on Saturday night, But I
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  Speaker 1: think from being a part of the Bachelor family, it
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  Speaker 1: was kind of sad to see Kim and Chloe. Do
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