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The Changing World of Vegas Media with Mike Davis | 363 · Hey BigHead: The Vegas Local Podcast

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SPEAKER_01: So Julie.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: Back in the mid-90s, way before you were born, you're 99?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I am.
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SPEAKER_01: Do you know who Michael Jordan is?
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SPEAKER_02: I do know who Michael Jordan is, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Famously, Michael Jordan retired in his prime.
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SPEAKER_01: And a year or two later he came back.
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SPEAKER_01: And in 95, he came back, and I think it was in the news.
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SPEAKER_01: He put out a page that had two words on it.
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SPEAKER_01: It just said, I'm back.
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SPEAKER_01: Right?
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: This morning, I woke up to a text message from our friend Mike Davis, and it just had two words on it, I'm back.
0:31
SPEAKER_03: And here he is.
0:33
SPEAKER_01: Mike Davis back?
0:34
SPEAKER_01: Is that what I said?
0:35
SPEAKER_01: I already forgot what I said this morning.
0:37
SPEAKER_01: It was it was at 3 a.m., so it was probably a drunk text, but I appreciate it.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm pumped to be back.
0:41
SPEAKER_00: I am so happy.
0:42
SPEAKER_00: Michael Jordan's in a class of his own.
0:44
SPEAKER_00: Now, you know, a few actually, the only person that calls me Michael is my girlfriend.
0:49
SPEAKER_00: Besides that, everybody calls me Mike.
0:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Speaking of which, your girlfriend.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
0:53
SPEAKER_00: Well done.
0:54
SPEAKER_00: So well done.
0:55
SPEAKER_00: You know what?
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SPEAKER_00: But honestly, she's beautiful on the outside.
0:58
SPEAKER_00: Beautiful on the inside.
1:00
SPEAKER_00: And I know people say just, you know, it sounds like a good thing to say.
1:03
SPEAKER_00: You're supposed to say that.
1:04
SPEAKER_00: But no, it's actually true.
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SPEAKER_02: I feel like it's one of those things that you could omit if you didn't mean it.
1:09
SPEAKER_02: You could have just said thank you and moved on.
1:11
SPEAKER_00: No, she really, it's like I try the drive home, like she is an incredible person on the inside, too.
1:17
SPEAKER_01: So I love that for you.
1:18
SPEAKER_01: I remember last time you were on, you were talking about dating apps, and you know, yeah, you had this going on.
1:22
SPEAKER_01: But I'm glad that uh it sounds like you uh you found something that's pretty special.
1:26
SPEAKER_00: So she's very special.
1:28
SPEAKER_00: Um persistence, you know.
1:30
SPEAKER_00: For for guys like uh, you know, you got you gotta be persistent, you know.
1:34
SPEAKER_00: That's that's how it goes.
1:36
SPEAKER_00: And being a little cultured, you know, and knowing like stuff like, you know, that Sabrina Carpenter's first album was incredible.
1:42
SPEAKER_00: And her second one was uh, you know, Julie's already upset.
1:45
SPEAKER_00: She's she's upset at this point.
1:47
SPEAKER_02: Did you see my face start to fall?
1:49
SPEAKER_01: I'm so glad you're on the receiving end of this because usually I'm on the receiving end of the face just starting to fall.
1:54
SPEAKER_02: Well, usually I don't know if our guest can take it as much as you do, but I know that he could actually probably take more than you can.
2:00
SPEAKER_01: Mike was very upset last time he came into the studio.
2:02
SPEAKER_01: He he yelled out before walking into the studio, where is Julie?
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SPEAKER_01: I can't wait to meet her.
2:06
SPEAKER_01: And unfortunately, you were unavailable.
2:08
SPEAKER_01: But now the first time you two meet, it's like it's like two of my friends from different schools are meeting each other for the first time.
2:14
SPEAKER_00: It's I mean, and honestly, I appreciate a great sidekick because it's really hard to do what Andrew does, but to have a great sidekick who kind of you have that telepathy, it's kind of you're the Scottie Pippin to his MJ, to put in sports terms.
2:28
SPEAKER_01: But I'm do you know who Scotty?
2:30
SPEAKER_02: Oh my it's like I've heard the name.
2:32
SPEAKER_00: You've heard you see what I'm working with?
2:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but he was you know a Hall of Famer.
2:37
SPEAKER_00: The the the the bottom line is what am I doing here?
2:40
SPEAKER_00: We had we had Susie Lee on the show.
2:43
SPEAKER_00: Yes, you know, shout out Susie.
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SPEAKER_02: Shout out Susie.
2:46
SPEAKER_00: I mean Aaron Ford, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Am I saying it right?
2:49
SPEAKER_00: Aaron?
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: Ask Julie.
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SPEAKER_02: Aaron is correct.
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SPEAKER_00: Aaron, I said it right.
2:53
SPEAKER_00: Yes, he's on the show.
2:54
SPEAKER_00: I mean, Gaetano's Nick.
2:57
SPEAKER_00: We had a guy named Armani on the show.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, what am I doing here?
3:01
SPEAKER_00: A guy named Mike.
3:02
SPEAKER_00: My name's not even Michael, it's Mike David.
3:04
SPEAKER_02: I know you kind of you have two first names.
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SPEAKER_00: I do on Instagram.
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SPEAKER_02: Do you have three first names?
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SPEAKER_00: You know how many people actually think my parents' name like Armani's story is a little weird.
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SPEAKER_00: The fact that his mom was walking through a mall saying, like, I don't know, Lululemon, maybe I'll name him Armani, Claude.
3:22
SPEAKER_00: I was like, Claude, he's not even Jewish.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, why is the mom gonna give this name?
3:27
SPEAKER_00: So anyway, I digress.
3:29
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: The point is, people come up to me and actually think my middle name is Mike.
3:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:34
SPEAKER_02: Because your username is Michael Mike?
3:37
SPEAKER_00: Yes, because I couldn't get Mike Davis on Instagram and I couldn't get Michael Davis, so I was just like, I'll do Michael Mike Davis.
3:43
SPEAKER_00: And my brother loves me so much that he actually made his Instagram Harrison Hank Davis.
3:48
SPEAKER_00: That's like in one person's eyes, I'm cool because he was like, oh, that's a good concept.
3:54
SPEAKER_01: You guys have a good relationship, I can tell.
3:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, which is great.
3:56
SPEAKER_01: I love that.
3:57
SPEAKER_02: Should mine be Julie Jules Nethery, and yours should be Andy or Andrew Andy?
4:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Andrew Andy Ferrari Andy.
4:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it'll be a long one, but make it happen.
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SPEAKER_01: No, but I do listen, we've since you've been on, we've definitely been very fortunate with the guest.
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SPEAKER_00: Like Susie Lee sat on this.
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SPEAKER_00: Right there.
4:13
SPEAKER_00: Right there.
4:14
SPEAKER_00: This is incredible.
4:15
SPEAKER_01: I know.
4:16
SPEAKER_00: So how for you guys, I mean, to I mean, let's just paint a picture for your audience.
4:21
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to hijack the show.
4:23
SPEAKER_00: I know you would.
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SPEAKER_00: I love it.
4:24
SPEAKER_00: But here's just what I want to talk about because I appreciate the fact that you guys one day are talking about cougar hunting.
4:33
SPEAKER_00: It's like, it's like, what's the best cougar hunting spots in Henderson, Nevada?
4:38
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
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SPEAKER_00: And then Susie leaves on the next day.
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SPEAKER_00: And her people are not like turned off by it or freaked out by it.
4:45
SPEAKER_00: They're they're all for it.
4:46
SPEAKER_02: In fact, her people were like, we love your show.
4:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
4:49
SPEAKER_00: And they had suggestions for cougar spots or no?
4:52
SPEAKER_00: No, but we probably should have asked next time.
4:54
SPEAKER_00: But I'm I'm being I'm joking.
4:57
SPEAKER_00: But the truth is, I I guess what I want to pose to you guys is how interesting in our landscape of media.
5:04
SPEAKER_00: We all know the past presidential election, there was a I mean, Kamala should have gone on podcasts.
5:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
5:11
SPEAKER_00: She really took it was a major blunder from her comms team to not prioritize that from an election standpoint and running for office.
5:22
SPEAKER_00: So I actually think it's it's demonstrating a lot, not just about what you guys are doing, but I think about media, that you guys are having big hitters come on this show and talk about these types of things, right?
5:34
SPEAKER_00: How do you feel about it?
5:35
SPEAKER_01: You know, I wonder where I try to think back at, you know, where the kind of the the dam kind of collapsed and it just kind of became a flood of these big names reaching out to us.
5:46
SPEAKER_01: Like Susie reached out to us, I believe.
5:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, her one of her reps from DC.
5:51
SPEAKER_01: So we're we're we're very fortunate.
5:53
SPEAKER_01: You guys are hiding DC.
5:54
SPEAKER_01: I mean, DC is the road to DC is through Big Head Studios.
5:58
SPEAKER_01: I know.
5:59
SPEAKER_02: How about that?
5:59
SPEAKER_02: Working on it.
6:00
SPEAKER_01: I know.
6:01
SPEAKER_01: But no, we're we're very fortunate, and it's it's because people like JC Fernandez gave us gave our show a shot very early on.
6:07
SPEAKER_01: You coming on the show very early on was uh a huge factor of it.
6:11
SPEAKER_01: Like you guys that are special to the local market, but also special to me personally.
6:17
SPEAKER_00: Don't forget about the guy who has a top 10 list for cougar hunting spots.
6:20
SPEAKER_00: I know I forget what that guest's name is, but he gave you a lot of credibility too.
6:24
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we definitely like Al Salino Posto.
6:27
SPEAKER_00: Uh I gotta rewatch that.
6:31
SPEAKER_01: We're very fortunate.
6:32
SPEAKER_01: But I in all honesty, I do want to thank you because when you came on our show last, you gave a few like questions like, hey, how come you aren't doing a show over an hour?
6:42
SPEAKER_01: Like with whatever episode that you watched prior to that, you wanted more.
6:46
SPEAKER_01: And I was in that at that time, I was like, you know what, why aren't we doing a show over an hour?
6:50
SPEAKER_01: And then you also brought up you you compared another podcast in in Vegas, and you were like, I don't care what this other guy has an opinion on when it comes to whatever it is that he was talking about.
7:02
SPEAKER_01: But like I I I care about you, I care about you know what your opinion is on something going on in Vegas.
7:08
SPEAKER_01: And those two things really hit home for me, and I I took it to heart, and I really sat down and thought about it.
7:13
SPEAKER_01: And since then, we really don't do episodes less than an hour.
7:17
SPEAKER_01: It's rare that we do less than an hour because we're able to keep the conversation going and engaging for that.
7:23
SPEAKER_01: And then also connecting with the community, connecting with the audience.
7:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that has been a huge priority for us, and I think it shows in the quality of the show since then, as well as the guests that we have on, and also the team.
7:36
SPEAKER_01: As much as I'd love to take you know credit for it, I I won't.
7:38
SPEAKER_01: It's the the team that I have between Julie and Brandon and Gigi.
7:42
SPEAKER_01: We have an incredible team that uh buys into the vision, and uh I'm very fortunate.
7:47
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but you you ask about like how we got some of these big names on, it's sitting right next to you, right?
7:51
SPEAKER_00: Well, you guys are doing a great job, but it's also a professional product, and I mean like for me, I always want to come on here because it's like I crave the long format.
8:00
SPEAKER_00: It's like for me, I'm always operating on Silver State Sports and Entertainment Network and Fox Five, like I'm always operating in this 22-minute window, yeah, and I'm so long-winded, you know, like so I could just I like the riffing, and I that's why I first fell in love with radio.
8:15
SPEAKER_00: So I like having that time, but you guys are also so professional because like last time I was like, I didn't know shit about Neon Boulevard, you know, before last time it does, I just kind of like knew Andrew a little bit through through Heather, through Heather, right?
8:29
SPEAKER_00: You know, we were in a slot machine tournament a couple times and we we met a few times, but I was like, prior to my like coming on for a second time, like I gotta investigate this neon boulevard because you guys are too professional between the analytics report, you know.
8:46
SPEAKER_00: I felt like Suzy Lee.
8:47
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I'm getting an analytics report on like I was like, I feel I feel important.
8:52
SPEAKER_00: Um so you guys do a lot small things.
8:55
SPEAKER_00: But now I'm like, dude, Neon Boulevard, you're working with Robert Irvine and John Wick experience.
9:00
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh, okay, now I get it.
9:02
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, you guys have a high-level, you know, um operation here.
9:07
SPEAKER_00: So it's I'm lucky to be here.
9:08
SPEAKER_01: With Neon Boulevard, it was us, it was, you know, it is the my digital marketing company.
9:13
SPEAKER_01: And I'm so used to just being behind the scenes and promoting the clients, right?
9:16
SPEAKER_01: I don't necessarily care if Neon Boulevard gets the credit or not.
9:19
SPEAKER_01: I just want their clients to get noticeed.
9:21
SPEAKER_00: And what I mean, but what I love about you is most small business owners would be like, man, I gotta be going to a Henderson Chamber of Commerce event, and you're thinking more like, no, I gotta get somebody on here to talk about cougar spots in Henderson.
9:33
SPEAKER_00: Yes, and you're a small business owner.
9:35
SPEAKER_01: So I love that, you know, that you can you can go all angles.
9:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, again, and I it's I'm not trying to be Howard, but flirtations of Howard for sure.
9:44
SPEAKER_01: And I what would Howard do, Howard Stern, if he were starting a podcast in this day and age, and uh, you know, he was our age, so it it I I try to think in uh a mindset similar of his as well.
9:57
SPEAKER_01: And you know, you and I had a great conversation about Howard, and you know, it he influenced us both, yeah, for sure.
10:03
SPEAKER_01: Which is so cool.
10:05
SPEAKER_00: Have you guys been in like an Albertsons and seen somebody with a hey big head or a Vegas local hat?
10:10
SPEAKER_00: Has has that happened yet?
10:11
SPEAKER_01: I know what I wish I've gotten recognized.
10:13
SPEAKER_01: Somebody came up to me at a table and goes, Aren't you big head?
10:16
SPEAKER_01: And it was in front of Heather, actually.
10:18
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I loved it.
10:19
SPEAKER_01: It was the sweetest feeling ever.
10:20
SPEAKER_00: It's a good feeling.
10:21
SPEAKER_00: It's a great feeling.
10:22
SPEAKER_00: It's nice, but you know what?
10:23
SPEAKER_00: Listen, everybody has an ego, but the truth is that relevance is an important concept.
10:29
SPEAKER_00: Like it actually is in media, like and that's why we'll probably get this is a good segue to get into our argument about Sabrina Carpenter.
10:36
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
10:37
SPEAKER_00: But relevance, like, there's nothing wrong with uh getting through, whether it be a podcast, TV, music, to connect with another person enough where they actually recognize you, and just from like that standpoint alone, there's so I mean, we're not living in the 1980s where every single person knows the Van Halen song that's playing on the radio.
11:00
SPEAKER_00: It's hard to get through to a single person nowadays because there's so many different so saturated with everything.
11:07
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
11:07
SPEAKER_00: So for one person to actually like I that really meant a lot to me when that happened to me early on in my career, and it still does to me, but I never look at it from an egotistical standpoint.
11:18
SPEAKER_00: I look at it like, man, you're actually connecting enough with somebody where they want to like they recognize you, they want to engage with you.
11:26
SPEAKER_00: So like I'm the type of person, like I'll take 15, I'll drop my cart in Albertson's and talk to somebody because I it means a lot to me, you know.
11:35
SPEAKER_00: Because I would, there's people in my life, if I saw them, I'd be like, yeah, holy shit, like I want to talk to you.
11:40
SPEAKER_01: Do you feel that the podcast sector, the industry is, I mean, obviously, I can assume the answer, but it it's it's oversaturated.
11:49
SPEAKER_01: But do you feel like it's still on the incline?
11:52
SPEAKER_01: Do you feel like it still hasn't reached its peak yet?
11:54
SPEAKER_01: Because I feel like it's the form of media that most people consume now.
11:57
SPEAKER_00: No, it's very saturated.
11:58
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm can considering shifting to selling insurance.
12:03
SPEAKER_00: Um, no, no.
12:04
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm not good at it.
12:06
SPEAKER_02: I was gonna say, I think you could be a salesman if you want to.
12:08
SPEAKER_00: But um, no, it's it's honestly, I do have issues like that's why you guys inspire me because I think you need to be so self-motivated and enjoy what you're putting out there.
12:19
SPEAKER_00: And that's what I love from the Vegas local, you know, newsletter to the website and everything you guys do, because it signals to me it's something that you would want for yourself.
12:29
SPEAKER_00: Like if if this didn't exist, you know, and somebody else created it and you weren't doing hey big head and it wasn't Andrew Figarelli, but somebody create you would be the person who would be excited to get that email.
12:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you'd be the person to want to listen to these shows.
12:45
SPEAKER_00: So I feel like you're doing something you would want for yourself.
12:48
SPEAKER_03: It is.
12:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're spot on.
12:49
SPEAKER_00: And and that's it, so that hits me in that way.
12:52
SPEAKER_00: And I think that's why it's genuine and authentic and it works, you know.
12:56
SPEAKER_02: Also, not to nerd out, but I was doing a lot of research on this over the last two weeks for school, but relevant to what we're doing now.
13:05
SPEAKER_02: Um, podcasts are one of the only forms of media that are actively still growing in audience.
13:11
SPEAKER_02: Like they're they're up year after year after year.
13:13
SPEAKER_02: There was a weird dip in 2024, but so far 2026 has been higher than every year prior.
13:19
SPEAKER_02: So it is still growing.
13:21
SPEAKER_01: And it's interesting too, because you I I love when you go to your class because you talk about it.
13:25
SPEAKER_02: I'll text him in the middle of my class about what I'm learning about.
13:28
SPEAKER_01: Because she'll learn about like local influencer marketing, or she'll learn about you know what kids her age are, you know, interested in and what they actually care about and don't care about.
13:37
SPEAKER_01: And I thought what you said about influencers, how they really aren't as top tier anymore.
13:43
SPEAKER_01: Can you kind of elaborate on that a little bit?
13:45
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna speak for everybody, but in class, you know, we've this semester I'm in entrepreneurial media is the the class I'm in.
13:52
SPEAKER_02: And we're talking a lot about okay, finding your niche, and a lot of us want to do Vegas local things.
13:56
SPEAKER_02: Okay, well, the Vegas influencer market is way too oversaturated, and then on top of that, all of us our ages range from you know 23 to roughly 40, and then we've got a couple older individuals in the class, and everybody is exhausted of influencers.
14:12
SPEAKER_02: We do not care what they say, if they pop up on our feed, we scroll immediately past it.
14:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think because they're getting too polished.
14:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's a there there's a point where it's kind of cool to be more punk rock and not give an F about stuff, and I think there's some influencers that are just too good at what they're doing and it's too polished, and it just doesn't come off like rock and roll to me.
14:38
SPEAKER_00: I'm probably not the best person to ask because I I need I'm the type of person who should hire somebody and outsource my stuff, but I I also think it's part of like the headlines that we see.
14:48
SPEAKER_00: Like, how about the headline that just came out that Alex Earl has never read a book before?
14:52
SPEAKER_02: That is a headline?
14:54
SPEAKER_02: That was a headline.
14:55
SPEAKER_02: Honestly, but I mean I believe it.
14:57
SPEAKER_00: But Steve is I I wouldn't.
14:59
SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't.
14:59
SPEAKER_00: I mean, she went to the University of Miami, I went to the University of Miami undergrad, and you know, I was doing makeup videos in my dorm.
15:07
SPEAKER_02: But do you know how many people in her age group slash my age group?
15:12
SPEAKER_02: A lot of people don't do their readings, a lot of people don't do that anymore.
15:16
SPEAKER_00: Are you telling me in all your years of elementary, you don't read uh The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemingway?
15:24
SPEAKER_00: You don't read The Count of Monte Cristo by Alexander Dumas.
15:27
SPEAKER_00: You had you had summer readings.
15:28
SPEAKER_00: You don't sure, but I would assume I'm a big reader, like I like the classics, but it's like, how do you not read those books?
15:36
SPEAKER_02: I agree with you.
15:37
SPEAKER_02: I read every assigned reading, and my classmates make fun of me for it, but but to never she said she never read a book.
15:45
SPEAKER_02: Also, I believe me and her are the same age, and I would assume that at some point, I I mean, I don't know when it was created, so I don't know if you guys had this in like high school.
15:55
SPEAKER_00: Spark notes?
15:56
SPEAKER_00: Is that what you're doing?
15:56
SPEAKER_00: You could have read SparkNotes.
15:58
SPEAKER_00: I know you're gonna say that, but what about just reading for the joy of reading?
16:02
SPEAKER_02: A lot of people don't do that.
16:03
SPEAKER_02: Like the the generations coming up right now are some of the most illiterate of all times.
16:09
SPEAKER_02: And that is like statistics.
16:11
SPEAKER_02: It's not gonna get any better.
16:13
SPEAKER_00: But I'm just saying, listen, there's there was like maybe I had more of like I liked literature.
16:18
SPEAKER_00: There's a part of the time like I wanted to be a screenwriter, so I always like books and I read a lot.
16:22
SPEAKER_00: But even the guy version of this could be like, I'm I read the biography of Yogi Berra, you know, because I love baseball and I wanted to, or like I read Babe Bruce's biography.
16:33
SPEAKER_00: Like, what about just reading that version of it?
16:35
SPEAKER_00: You don't think she would just be a facetious or just kind of I mean, probably I mean, I should have done more research on, you know, on this, but I it was just a headline, and I'm like, influencer who's super successful, has a really good way with her audience, obviously.
16:49
SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's a lot of people doing makeup videos, so I'm not trying to shit on Alex Earl because I I'm impressed by her acumen when it comes to being an influencer.
16:57
SPEAKER_00: You know, you guys will probably edit out that part of the of when you post it.
17:01
SPEAKER_00: Mike David will just be like Alex Earl has never read a book.
17:04
SPEAKER_00: That's the headline.
17:05
SPEAKER_00: But but the point is, I like, you know, I admire that part of her, you know, influencing acumen, and I wish I possessed more of that, but still, how are we in a society where somebody who's that influential has never it's true, right?
17:21
SPEAKER_02: So it's like people are mad, a celebrity admitted she's never read a book.
17:26
SPEAKER_00: But I think that's but here's the thing, and like that's listen, I always get on my soapbox on this show, but the point is last time I made a few more political like jokes, uh that one which was clipped.
17:39
SPEAKER_00: And the point is there's there should be a responsibility for certain platforms that are when you have a platform of that magnitude, it's like having CBS or ABC on your phone.
17:51
SPEAKER_00: I mean, she's a major influencer.
17:54
SPEAKER_00: So to not be, you know, learn learned in certain like things and to just be, I mean, that's that's a problem because people are listening to influencers talk about much more important issues than makeup, uh and those people really don't have any right to be spewing these types of takes.
18:14
SPEAKER_02: Well, and then when you get into like the parasocial relationships that people are building with these influencers, if you see Alex Earl as one of your your closest buddies, even if you don't know her, you watch her all day long and she says she doesn't read, then that becomes much less important to you as well.
18:30
SPEAKER_00: But that's why I know my lane.
18:31
SPEAKER_00: Like I'm not trying to be Susie Lee.
18:33
SPEAKER_00: Like I don't want to be Susie Lee, honestly, because I don't deserve to be Susie Lee.
18:38
SPEAKER_00: I don't, there's nobody should be trying to get me to run for government because I just I don't have that interest and I'm not gonna be the person to best handle those things.
18:47
SPEAKER_00: I think there's other people that are better suited for those tasks.
18:50
SPEAKER_00: So it's just like for me, it's like I feel okay, maybe saying, like, listen, I think, you know, uh we Jackson Powers Johnson should not be starting at left guard.
19:01
SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm okay making that leap because it who cares?
19:04
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's sports, it's fun, we're engaging, but there's high-level topics and conversations and foreign conflicts.
19:13
SPEAKER_00: Like, people should be a little bit more, you know, studied and uh they should have a the platform should matter for being able to talk about certain things.
19:23
SPEAKER_00: That's just my take.
19:24
SPEAKER_01: Did it bother you when I clipped the you in the Haktua thing from last time?
19:27
SPEAKER_01: You were anybody know what Haktua's opinion is on the gas crisis or whatever you said.
19:32
SPEAKER_01: I just made a joke about I love that.
19:35
SPEAKER_02: I think it's a very valid thing to say.
19:38
SPEAKER_00: Put it this way, I liked it, but I didn't accept the invitation to be a collaborator.
19:43
SPEAKER_00: That's the most honest response that I can get.
19:46
SPEAKER_00: I appreciate the honesty.
19:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't need people like I don't need every I don't need like every Jewish like associate I have from Cherry Hill, New Jersey going on my thing saying, what did he say about Hogtua and Israel Palestine?
20:00
SPEAKER_00: It's like it's maybe not the first thing I need on my feet.
20:04
SPEAKER_00: So but we like we we like we like pushing the limits and seeing you know what you're comfortable with, what you're not comfortable with.
20:10
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
20:11
SPEAKER_00: I'm comfortable going anywhere.
20:12
SPEAKER_01: It's just I don't have to accept the inputs.
20:14
SPEAKER_03: You don't have to accept it, you know.
20:15
SPEAKER_01: You know what?
20:16
SPEAKER_01: No feelings were hurt here at the Hey Big Head Show.
20:18
SPEAKER_01: I do want to talk about what you're doing now, though, because last time we we you we had you on, you were getting into the Silver State Sport Network.
20:26
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you you were and still are like the face of that channel for sure.
20:30
SPEAKER_01: You every time I see you on TV, yeah, talking about sports or interviewing, I I love, I stop what I'm doing and I watch it.
20:37
SPEAKER_00: How's that been going?
20:38
SPEAKER_00: It's great.
20:38
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we have it's from where we started to now, it's been such amazing growth.
20:43
SPEAKER_00: I have like a really I think our team might be smaller than the hey big show, like hey big head show.
20:49
SPEAKER_00: So it's like pretty impressive because we have an editor named Jess who's incredible, one of the best editors.
20:54
SPEAKER_00: My sidekick and producer, James Edward Barrickman, the fourth, he's like producing all these shows, and then a lot of our other talent at Fox Five, they uh contribute and they put a lot of great programs on this network.
21:05
SPEAKER_00: So Vince Sapienza has a hockey in the desert show, Mariah Janos has a betting show.
21:11
SPEAKER_00: So we just have like a bunch of great, you know, content and it's it's a lot.
21:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love that.
21:15
SPEAKER_00: It's how long has the the channel been around for?
21:19
SPEAKER_00: I left the more show.
21:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh I moved here in 2019.
21:23
SPEAKER_00: I was on the more show for four years and Fox Five morning show doing reporting, and then that was four years.
21:29
SPEAKER_00: And now I've been here seven years, so it's been like three years at this network.
21:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love that.
21:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm so sorry.
21:35
SPEAKER_02: Wow, immediately got an itch in my throat.
21:37
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna grab my water.
21:38
SPEAKER_02: I'll be right back.
21:39
unknown: Okay.
21:40
SPEAKER_01: We had speaking of giving guests, we had uh Piff, the magic dragon guy.
21:44
SPEAKER_01: He was a super nice guy.
21:46
SPEAKER_01: I mean, obviously, very nice when the cameras were on, but uh when the cameras were off, very professional, very down to earth, not as much of a smart ass, but really just you know genuine.
21:54
SPEAKER_01: But he was a very unique guest because he just as soon as we started.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: Rolling, he was just on me, shitting on me, left and right with his dry humor.
22:03
SPEAKER_01: It was great.
22:04
SPEAKER_01: And it was good.
22:04
SPEAKER_01: Like he was really quick-witted.
22:06
SPEAKER_01: And for a while, I was hanging with him.
22:08
SPEAKER_01: But then at like an hour and a half mark, I was so tired and he was still going.
22:12
SPEAKER_01: But one of the things I I loved and respected about his appearance was he knew that he was bouncing around, but he also knew that we were trying to have a structure of questions on the show.
22:22
SPEAKER_01: So at the end, we were trying to wrap up, and he's like, you know what?
22:25
SPEAKER_01: I know he bounced around.
22:26
SPEAKER_01: Ask me any questions you didn't ask.
22:27
SPEAKER_01: And like knowing that we had questions still that we were trying to.
22:31
SPEAKER_01: And I that small, small moment was just like that.
22:35
SPEAKER_01: That meant so much to me.
22:36
SPEAKER_01: And I knew that, like, oh, there is a little something special with the person you're sitting across when you're not a guest on the show.
22:42
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I think you guys put like a lot of intentionality into it.
22:46
SPEAKER_00: It's a professional situation.
22:47
SPEAKER_00: You guys want to have real conversations.
22:49
SPEAKER_00: So I've been on so many shows where it's like, you know, it's it's podcasting to a degree has become almost like the dinner party you don't want to get invited to.
23:00
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's like, oh, it that that dinner, you know, that dinner party's this Friday after this whole work week.
23:06
SPEAKER_00: I gotta go to, you know, Susie.
23:09
SPEAKER_00: I shouldn't say Susie.
23:12
SPEAKER_00: I know I wish I could.
23:14
SPEAKER_00: That's she's just on my, that's just you know, Marianne's house for dinner, you know, blah, blah, blah.
23:20
SPEAKER_00: Like, boom.
23:21
SPEAKER_00: So it's just like, there's a lot of podcasts that are like that, where it's like, hey, you know, um, I gotta, I said yes, I gotta go on it, and it's gonna be, I know exactly how the conversation's gonna go.
23:33
SPEAKER_00: It's not gonna be that, you know, blah, blah, blah.
23:35
SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm I'm I'm glad you're here.
23:36
SPEAKER_01: You know, we had our block party too, and uh unfortunately you couldn't make it, but it was it was uh such a great time, and it was almost to the point where it it felt like I wanted to show all of the guests that we have had on, almost not necessarily bragging, but almost like a showing off the accomplishment thing.
23:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but also the fact that we were able to have guests on and they're willing to come back.
23:57
SPEAKER_01: Like I'm I'm sure I don't want to speak for you, but I will.
24:00
SPEAKER_01: There are maybe one or two podcasts that you've been on that maybe if they asked you back, you'd either hesitate or you'd politely decline.
24:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I love the fact that everybody, if they were available, they came back on.
24:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
24:11
SPEAKER_01: That that relationship with the guests and the host means so much to me.
24:14
SPEAKER_01: And uh, I'm like I said, I'm just so fortunate that you're back here.
24:17
SPEAKER_00: No, I'm happy to be here.
24:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
24:18
SPEAKER_00: Can we talk sports a little bit?
24:19
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
24:20
SPEAKER_00: Put on your professional capture.
24:21
SPEAKER_00: Okay, sorry, yes.
24:22
SPEAKER_01: I mean, listen, it doesn't have to be totally professional.
24:24
SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying, you're your nine, your nine to five job, you talk sports all day long.
24:28
SPEAKER_01: Right, so this episode's gonna air uh not this week before the uh Raiders play the Patriots.
24:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but um do you think, regardless of what happens in that game, do you think the Raiders are for real this year?
24:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, three and one and they were they almost beat the Chiefs.
24:42
SPEAKER_00: I think they're a legit team.
24:44
SPEAKER_00: I no I didn't see this coming.
24:46
SPEAKER_00: NFL media didn't see this coming.
24:48
SPEAKER_00: They are legit.
24:49
SPEAKER_00: I mean, and that's why coming off of the 30 to 27 loss to the Chiefs, I actually thought Raiders fans should be feeling really, really good about themselves.
24:59
SPEAKER_00: And Raider Nation should be happy because listen, the Chiefs are the creme de la creme of the NFL.
25:06
SPEAKER_00: I mean, Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, you add the Super Bowl MVP and Kenneth Walker to this team, that's you know, that's what you're trying to get to.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: Even though they missed the playoffs last year, they've become a staple of the NFL in terms of how you run a franchise and being competitive.
25:21
SPEAKER_00: And the Raiders haven't been that for all these years.
25:24
SPEAKER_00: And for Clint Kubiak to come in and from a leadership standpoint change the belief in this team, it's a very special thing.
25:32
SPEAKER_00: And that's why I loved what he said heading into halftime.
25:35
SPEAKER_00: You know, most coaches won't put themselves out there and say we're gonna win this football game.
25:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and they're gonna be able to do that.
25:39
SPEAKER_02: Is that what he said?
25:40
SPEAKER_00: I didn't he said that, and you know, they didn't.
25:42
SPEAKER_02: Right.
25:42
SPEAKER_00: But what I loved about that is that he believes.
25:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and this team is playing like a team that believes, and nobody believed in this team.
25:49
SPEAKER_00: I mean, for them to be the worst team in the league last year, to draft first overall, draft Fernando Mendoza, be three and 14 or whatever, and then to already have three wins this season, go start off the season undefeated three-not.
26:02
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's leadership, you know, and so there's a lot of reasons for it.
26:06
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, Rob Leonard, the defensive coordinator, has been doing a tremendous job.
26:10
SPEAKER_00: They were leading the league in uh takeaways and turnovers.
26:13
SPEAKER_00: So there's a lot of things you can point to.
26:15
SPEAKER_00: Kirk Cousins is playing out of his mind for a 38-year-old, but top 10 in passing game for an offense.
26:22
SPEAKER_00: But there's still a lot of things you can point to and say this team could be so much better.
26:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the running game hasn't been popping at all.
26:29
SPEAKER_00: And Clint Kubiak's the guy who comes from this tree of the Mike Shanahan tree, who's the father of Kyle Shanahan.
26:36
SPEAKER_00: He started, you know, he's the head coach for all those Denver Broncos teams, the run zone blocking scheme.
26:41
SPEAKER_00: So for him to come from that system and Gary Kubiak, his father, was a backup for John Elway.
26:46
SPEAKER_00: So he knows how to institute a running game.
26:50
SPEAKER_00: And for that, for them to have Tyler Linderbaum at center and Ashton Genty, and for them to be averaging 3.1 yards per carry, the lowest in the NFL for per yards per rushing attempt, that just means to me they're three and one.
27:04
SPEAKER_00: They don't have a running game.
27:06
SPEAKER_00: Right.
27:06
SPEAKER_00: Imagine when they get a running game and that action, that push from the offensive line starts to settle in, they're gonna be a really, really big time playoff contender.
27:15
SPEAKER_00: So you think that Max Crosby trade falling through was a blessing in disguise?
27:19
SPEAKER_00: A thousand percent.
27:20
SPEAKER_00: And I was a big proponent of that trade.
27:24
SPEAKER_00: Like I wanted that trade to happen.
27:26
SPEAKER_01: Really?
27:26
SPEAKER_00: Because I thought John Spy Tech was instituting a good um a good situation for growth.
27:35
SPEAKER_00: I didn't feel like the Raiders were in a position to win now, and they are in a position to win now.
27:40
SPEAKER_00: And I I don't think a lot of people in the building even believed it.
27:44
SPEAKER_00: And I think Clink Kubiak changed the belief systems.
27:47
SPEAKER_00: But to get two first round draft picks for an edge rusher who might be one of the best edge rushers in the league, um, still to get a premium for that was I th I thought something that could set the course of this franchise up for a lot of success in the future.
28:02
SPEAKER_00: But now you want Max Crosby on this team if you're competing for the playoffs.
28:06
SPEAKER_00: It's a totally different story.
28:07
SPEAKER_00: So it's a definite blessing in disguise.
28:10
SPEAKER_01: Are you okay with Mendoza not starting yet?
28:12
SPEAKER_00: Honestly, he shouldn't start till next year.
28:15
SPEAKER_00: He really shouldn't.
28:16
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I wanted to see him.
28:17
SPEAKER_00: I didn't think Kirk Cousins was gonna play at this level, but he has this team playing well.
28:23
SPEAKER_00: He's making the right decisions.
28:25
SPEAKER_00: He's he looks spry, he hangs in that pocket.
28:27
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you can't teach that.
28:28
SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of younger quarterbacks in the league.
28:30
SPEAKER_00: They feel the pressure.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: You know, when the pocket starts to collapse, they make bad decisions.
28:35
SPEAKER_00: You can see in the red zone, Kirk Cousins is he's going through his progressions, he's making the right, uh making the right calls and the right reads.
28:44
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, he's gonna throw a pick or two.
28:45
SPEAKER_00: That's kind of part of who he is as a as a as a quarterback.
28:50
SPEAKER_00: But I I think he's playing incredibly well.
28:52
SPEAKER_00: And I would just keep riding the hot hand and see what could happen.
28:56
SPEAKER_00: I think this is a nine or ten win team now.
28:58
SPEAKER_01: How many, how many players do you think were missing to really take it to that next level?
29:02
SPEAKER_00: I think there was a lot of signings that really popped.
29:06
SPEAKER_00: Like one guy who came on my show, Sound Off Sports, before the season was a linebacker from the Philadelphia Eagles named N'Bobe Dean.
29:13
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
29:14
SPEAKER_00: This guy, he's the other.
29:16
SPEAKER_00: I mean, if there's if Tyler Linderbaum was the big splash signing that everybody's talking about, N'Kobe Dean's the other one.
29:24
SPEAKER_00: I mean, him and Quay Walker are the two linebackers they brought in, and N'Cobe Dean is just, I mean, forcing fumbles.
29:32
SPEAKER_00: He's so active and energetic.
29:34
SPEAKER_00: Uh just got getting after the ball.
29:37
SPEAKER_00: He's such a difference maker, and they're just playing with energy.
29:40
SPEAKER_00: Like you watch NFL football games, and there's teams, you don't have to be a sports like fan to know you can see when a team is really just playing with intensity and passion and belief, and the Raiders just pop off the screen.
29:53
SPEAKER_00: I mean, all these games, the Saints game, they could have lost easily, you know, with the fumble at the end and they found a way to win.
30:01
SPEAKER_00: Same thing with this Chiefs game.
30:03
SPEAKER_00: I mean, the fumble from Young, if that doesn't happen, that that could be, and still at the end, they were in a position to win this game.
30:11
SPEAKER_00: You know, so I think when you look at how they played against the Chiefs, this is um a team that believes in themselves and they're they're dangerous.
30:20
SPEAKER_01: Did you see that Allstate commercial with Fernando Mendoza?
30:23
SPEAKER_01: That's a great it's one of the best commercials I've seen.
30:25
SPEAKER_00: He's leaning into his, you know, I I like that he can make fun of himself and all he's got so many.
30:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's got a ChatGBT one now, he's got Taco Bell.
30:33
SPEAKER_00: Good for him.
30:33
SPEAKER_02: He's got a lot of them.
30:35
SPEAKER_02: I'll have to look him up.
30:36
SPEAKER_02: Do you watch TV at all?
30:37
SPEAKER_02: Like regular TV?
30:39
SPEAKER_02: Only when football is on and my husband puts it on the TV.
30:42
SPEAKER_00: You're telling me when you're watching like Hey Big Head on YouTube, you don't get an ad for the State Farm commercial with Jake from State Farm and Fernando Mendoza?
30:50
SPEAKER_02: No, not when I'm watching Big Head.
30:52
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
30:52
SPEAKER_02: I get weird ads when I'm watching Big Head.
30:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:55
SPEAKER_01: Well, our next episode, we're gonna dive into Julie's algorithm and see what she uh what she's actually watching when she's not working.
31:01
SPEAKER_02: My social media algorithm is normal.
31:04
SPEAKER_02: Whatever the ads are I get on our show, weird.
31:07
SPEAKER_01: That's fair.
31:08
SPEAKER_01: That's fair.
31:09
SPEAKER_01: What about the Golden Knights?
31:11
SPEAKER_01: Golden Knights just started their season.
31:13
SPEAKER_01: It's in their their 10th year now.
31:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
31:15
SPEAKER_01: What are your expectations for them this year?
31:17
SPEAKER_00: You know, I think the the cool thing about the Golden Knights is, I mean, this is year 10 for the Vegas Golden Knights.
31:23
SPEAKER_00: It's insane for an expansion franchise to have the success they've had over these 10 years.
31:29
SPEAKER_00: I mean, usually you're an expansion franchise and you're just in disarray for years and years and years.
31:35
SPEAKER_00: So for them to obviously go to the Stanley Cup in the first season was huge, but I mean they have had such an ability, even through the changes of the bench boss and the hedge and the head coach, each and every year they find a way to be contenders.
31:49
SPEAKER_00: And from, you know, Galant to DeBoer to Cassidy to Tortorella and now Ryan Craig.
31:56
SPEAKER_00: And I think the great thing is Ryan Craig is gonna bring such an infusion of youthfulness to this team because he's 45-ish, I believe.
32:04
SPEAKER_00: And um he is a guy who not only was with the organization from the inception, I mean, he was an assistant coach with this team, but then becoming the head coach of the Henderson Silver Knights, he just has an ability now to connect with each and every player as they're trying to bring uh, you know, a whole new like energy of youthfulness, of like the Trevor Connollys and all these younger guys on the team, like they're gonna be able to come into a situation.
32:33
SPEAKER_00: He has personal relationships with all these guys, whether he was a coach uh early with them, he coached them at the Henderson Silver Knights, he played in the league.
32:41
SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, I think it's gonna be a really good move.
32:43
SPEAKER_00: And so far, we've seen in the beginning of the early of the season, they're scoring pretty well.
32:47
SPEAKER_00: He's shifting lines well.
32:49
SPEAKER_00: Olifson looks amazing.
32:50
SPEAKER_00: So he's he's making certain choices that are very interesting.
32:53
SPEAKER_00: And he also had personal relationships with Tortarella, Galant, DeBoer, um, you know, Cassidy, so all these guys.
33:01
SPEAKER_00: So I think it's gonna be a good move.
33:02
SPEAKER_00: Uh Kelly McCrimin knows what he's doing.
33:04
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's just a general manager who uh it's all winning at all costs, and that's hard to do.
33:11
SPEAKER_00: I mean, most people don't have the gumption for that, but he does.
33:15
SPEAKER_01: You're like rain man of sports.
33:16
SPEAKER_01: How often?
33:17
SPEAKER_01: You how often do you consume sports on a regular basis?
33:20
SPEAKER_01: Like, like obviously for work you have to, but what's what's your consumption of sports day to day?
33:25
SPEAKER_01: I'm very curious.
33:25
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's I gotta know what's happening.
33:27
SPEAKER_00: I can't watch every single thing, but I have to know what's happening.
33:31
SPEAKER_00: You have to carry a conversation.
33:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, but I think I try to like I think for me, what I try to do is I try to think about sports in the way that every single person can connect to it.
33:42
SPEAKER_00: You know, I think you can get into the weeds with certain stuff, but I try to think about things in like to me, I'm fascinated more by how all these, you know, athletes in the NFL that are getting these huge paychecks, all this stuff.
33:56
SPEAKER_00: How can a coaching change inspire a whole team that's different, but not tremendously?
34:03
SPEAKER_00: Everybody was predicting this team to be at the bottom of the league, six or seven wins, and then one person can come in and change how an entire franchise is operating.
34:14
SPEAKER_00: You know, finding the right person, hiring the right person.
34:16
SPEAKER_00: SpyTeg and Brady were already there, and they're great, I think, executives, and they know football at a very high level, but you still have to hit the right person.
34:24
SPEAKER_00: And Pete Carroll's a guy who's been there, done that.
34:27
SPEAKER_00: Who's a better motivator?
34:29
SPEAKER_00: Do you know who Pete Carroll is?
34:30
SPEAKER_00: Pete Carroll could get you motivated to do any, he could get you motivated to like Sabrina Carpenter's first album more than the second album.
34:37
SPEAKER_00: That's how big of a motivator this guy is.
34:39
SPEAKER_00: He was he's good.
34:40
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he really was like a spry, like, good-looking, like 70-year-old guy who really like had a lot of success at USC.
34:49
SPEAKER_00: He won a national championship in college, then he won a champion a Super Bowl with the Seattle uh Seahawks, lost the Super Bowl with them as well.
34:56
SPEAKER_00: But he was a guy who instituted a lot of things in the NFL that weren't there: meditation, mindfulness.
35:02
SPEAKER_00: He would bring in a lot of practices that were never in NFL locker rooms, and he got guys to buy in.
35:09
SPEAKER_00: And so the Seahawks won a Super Bowl and went to two with him like that.
35:13
SPEAKER_00: I thought, man, this guy come into Vegas, like bringing meditation to the Las Vegas strip, like this is what the Raiders need.
35:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they really do.
35:23
SPEAKER_00: And then there was a lot of things that went wrong, and you can call nepotism.
35:27
SPEAKER_00: He had his son running the offensive line, he had no business doing it.
35:31
SPEAKER_00: Offensive linemen, it's like, imagine you didn't know what your job was.
35:34
SPEAKER_00: The offensive linemen did not know who they were supposed to block.
35:39
SPEAKER_00: So Ashton Genty, who's our rookie running back, top, you know, 10 pick, running all over the field at Boise State.
35:46
SPEAKER_00: This guy's built like ridiculous.
35:48
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
35:49
SPEAKER_00: He gets into the NFL, he's hit before he can even take the handoff.
35:54
SPEAKER_02: Because nobody's making sure he doesn't get hit.
35:57
SPEAKER_00: But the point is, it's like so it's it's just uh it's amazing how everything in life is connected.
36:02
SPEAKER_00: It's like running an NFL franchise is the same thing as running your local state farm office.
36:08
SPEAKER_00: It's like if the the guy who runs that local state farm office puts in his son in charge who really has no business doing anything, the whole office could go to the shit.
36:19
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it I mean it's so to me, that's what's fascinating about sports, you know, and those under, like it's not like it was underreported, but it's just to me, that's so fascinating how that could actually be.
36:32
SPEAKER_00: All these people are investing and buying tickets, making sure this team can win.
36:36
SPEAKER_00: And then at the end of the day, there's a person on the job who's really not qualified to be doing that job.
36:43
SPEAKER_01: It's it's so crucial.
36:44
SPEAKER_01: You're you're you're spot on, and you saw the difference of last, even just as quickly as last season to this season with the Raiders of you know having people in the positions where they don't know what to do in in terms of their role, and now they do, and they have the right leadership in place.
36:58
SPEAKER_01: We had Dominic DeDia on, who is the general manager of the uh Vegas team for the PWHL.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: Are you what are your thoughts on the PWHL coming to Vegas now, the the professional women's hockey league?
37:12
SPEAKER_00: I think it's great.
37:12
SPEAKER_00: You know, the their uniforms just came out.
37:14
SPEAKER_00: We spoke about it on the show.
37:16
SPEAKER_00: Um, I first of all I love sage green, like a farm.
37:19
SPEAKER_00: I love the jerseys.
37:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're great.
37:22
SPEAKER_00: It's a it's green, gold, and white.
37:24
SPEAKER_00: The green uh are gonna be the home unis, but I Dominic is, I'm telling you, she's sharp.
37:30
SPEAKER_00: Like she's she's really um they're positioned well with her.
37:34
SPEAKER_00: And I love her trajectory because a lot of um that's kind of the formula for a lot of front offices with successful franchises in major sports leagues.
37:46
SPEAKER_00: I mean, the NBA, the Knicks, their president is Leon Rose.
37:50
SPEAKER_00: He used to head up basketball at CAA.
37:54
SPEAKER_00: So he had clients like Alan Irison, LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony.
37:58
SPEAKER_00: He became a guy who was a deal maker for all these top-level athletes and ended up going to the other side, leaving CAA and becoming a general manager or president for the for the New York Knicks.
38:09
SPEAKER_00: So she's the same way.
38:10
SPEAKER_00: She was a person, you know, who was working on making deals and fostering deals for these players, and now she's gonna be the person negotiating with these players.
38:18
SPEAKER_00: So I think it's actually a very smart trajectory, and they're gonna be set up for a lot of success.
38:23
SPEAKER_00: And um, I'm not the most like read up on everything with PWHL, but um, I'm excited to find out what their team name is gonna be.
38:32
SPEAKER_00: I'm sure they're gonna be good from but from what I hear.
38:35
SPEAKER_00: Mariah Johnis, my co-host, she likes a lot of their signings.
38:38
SPEAKER_00: So I think they're gonna be good.
38:40
SPEAKER_01: She seemed very, I mean, uh, very well experienced, but she she seemed not only very professional, but also very excited.
38:47
SPEAKER_01: Like you could you could sense the excitement of getting the season.
38:50
SPEAKER_00: I couldn't believe like I learned this from your show.
38:53
SPEAKER_00: I was watching her episode, and I really thought she was just so uh like she's gonna she I think she's gonna accomplish a lot of great things, but I was like, man, she said on this show, she was like, I had no clue where I was gonna go.
39:07
SPEAKER_02: Right.
39:07
SPEAKER_00: That like she I was shocked by that.
39:10
SPEAKER_00: So she just was gonna because they had were expanding within the she was gonna be a GM, she didn't know where.
39:15
SPEAKER_00: She didn't know which franchise.
39:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
39:16
SPEAKER_01: It's like, whoa.
39:17
SPEAKER_01: That's crazy.
39:18
SPEAKER_01: Just it's just a a blank check of wherever you wherever you're gonna be told to go, that's where you're going next.
39:22
SPEAKER_01: What did you think of her?
39:23
SPEAKER_01: You loved her back.
39:24
SPEAKER_02: I loved Dominique.
39:25
SPEAKER_02: I thought she was great.
39:26
SPEAKER_02: Um, she got me excited about women's hockey, and yeah, not that I wouldn't have been in general, but it's never something I've ever really thought about.
39:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
39:33
SPEAKER_02: So I'm I'm excited to go check it out.
39:35
SPEAKER_01: I like the fact that it's and like we said during the episode too, like now is the perfect time for a new professional women's team here in Vegas.
39:42
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
39:43
SPEAKER_01: The vases the the aces in the playoffs, and you know, they're on the brink of elimination, but they're you know, with their past success that they've had, and just with Vegas, Vegas constantly expanding, it's now is the the perfect time more than ever.
39:57
SPEAKER_02: And I I really liked that she shared too.
39:59
SPEAKER_02: She was like, until I moved here, I had no idea that Vegas was so supportive of women's sports.
40:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she was like, it was a major surprise to get here.
40:07
SPEAKER_02: She was like, I knew the aces were good, but I didn't know that Las Vegas runs through the Aces at the way they do.
40:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I mean Mark Davis really deserves a ton of credit for what he did for the WMBA.
40:20
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think people are gonna look back in years when there's documentaries and really I mean, he really invested in the WMBA before other people were, before Caitlin Clark, before all this stuff.
40:31
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he really he built a tri a tremendous facility, you know.
40:36
SPEAKER_00: He uh made sure these contracts were, you know, people who should be getting these big contracts were getting them, like Asia, you know.
40:44
SPEAKER_00: So he did a lot for for the Aces and he invested in them and he it was been a great investment for him.
40:50
SPEAKER_00: But Asia for a second, we just got to talk about her because today of the recording of this podcast, I mean, she won her fifth WMBA title, which is just ridiculous.
41:00
SPEAKER_00: I mean, she already had four, which was more so than anybody.
41:03
SPEAKER_00: Cheryl Swoops, Lisa Leslie, and I think uh another person, Jackson, had like three MVP awards in the WMBA.
41:10
SPEAKER_00: She has three consecutively, five overall, three titles.
41:15
SPEAKER_00: I mean, she's the best WMBA player ever.
41:18
SPEAKER_00: There, there's it's not even a conversation.
41:20
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
41:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, people, I mean, she's she's really put done so much for for Vegas of putting the professional team here on the map.
41:29
SPEAKER_01: Um, and we're so fortunate to have her.
41:31
SPEAKER_00: It's crazy.
41:31
SPEAKER_00: She doesn't get like she should be so much bigger than she is, honestly, for how great she is.
41:38
SPEAKER_00: It's it's it's shocking to me.
41:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it's a shame how, you know, from a media standpoint, like the interaction she had with the fan, like that becomes more, you know, more than her prowess and how dominant she is as a two-way player and just a leader.
41:54
SPEAKER_00: It's it's hard to win, you know, and she's like the best player on the floor at all times.
41:59
SPEAKER_01: So with all the changes coming to Vegas in terms of sports, are you concerned with the aces coming to the PWHL here?
42:06
SPEAKER_01: And uh are you concerned that Vegas sports scene is growing too much too fast, or are you fine with the direction the Vegas sports scene is headed?
42:16
SPEAKER_00: Well, what would be the negative?
42:18
SPEAKER_01: I would say not necessarily having committed fans to a team.
42:23
SPEAKER_01: Like I don't know if it's it's it's gonna take some time for people to buy into the athletics for sure.
42:30
SPEAKER_01: Um it's it's it's in terms of the traffic, it's gonna be a nightmare.
42:33
SPEAKER_01: Uh honestly, that's one of the most the things that I brought up the most is that that's part of the strip, especially, is going to be such a clusterfug.
42:40
SPEAKER_00: I I you know it's interesting.
42:42
SPEAKER_00: I was having this conversation with uh a salesperson at Fox Five named Jamal in our back office the other day.
42:48
SPEAKER_00: And I I you know the funny thing is being from New Jersey, sports on the West Coast and the East Coast, and even in the Midwest, it's all it's different.
43:00
SPEAKER_00: Because you gotta realize, like when you live in LA, there's not a lot to be unhappy about.
43:09
SPEAKER_00: Unless, you know, you really are looking to be unhappy.
43:11
SPEAKER_00: But, you know, if the Dodgers win, if they lose, if the Rams win or lose, I mean the Rams and the Chargers play in the same stadium, like you're you got the Clippers, you got the Lakers, there's already too many teams, number one.
43:24
SPEAKER_00: But then there's too much fun to be had outside of sports that the misery doesn't creep into the equation.
43:32
SPEAKER_00: Whereas if you're from Philadelphia or Boston or Cleveland or Wisconsin, if your football, if the Packers lose, your whole day is screwed.
43:43
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you're not going to get a matcha and maybe do some uh vinyasa or downward dog on the beach after to get your mind right.
43:52
SPEAKER_00: You're like, no, I gotta go home and shovel, you know, my mother in law's driveway and you know.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: Maybe I'll get home in time to like actually sit down and have like you know a microwave pizza stove a stoffer's pizza, and you know, and on top of it, Jordan Love threw four interceptions.
44:12
SPEAKER_00: My life sucks.
44:14
SPEAKER_00: Meanwhile, if you're in LA, you're like, oh, Justin Herbert starts sleeping with Madison Beer and now he sucks now.
44:22
SPEAKER_00: And you know, my team is supposed to be incredible.
44:25
SPEAKER_00: And you know what?
44:27
SPEAKER_00: I'll just walk down the street and maybe I'll I'll catch, you know, the the world premiere of the Odyssey and see try to get a selfie with Matt Damon.
44:36
SPEAKER_00: You know, so the point is there's so much other like grabbing your attention.
44:43
SPEAKER_00: There's just so many other options that how could a football fan in LA care as much about football as somebody who's miserable in the winter in Wisconsin about their Packers.
44:56
SPEAKER_00: They just, it's not possible.
44:57
SPEAKER_00: It's part of the fabric.
44:59
SPEAKER_00: In Philadelphia, like if the Eagles win or lose, you know, it's gonna dictate the mood of what it's like to go to the to get your coffee at Wawa and speak to the cashier.
45:11
SPEAKER_00: I mean, the cashier could, you know, it's it it literally seeps through.
45:15
SPEAKER_00: I was home recently.
45:17
SPEAKER_00: My girlfriend was playing tennis with my family and stuff in New Jersey, and we were back home for the Jewish holidays, and we went to brunch.
45:25
SPEAKER_00: Every single person, whether they were a 67-year-old woman or a 14-year-old boy, was wearing an Eagles something on a Sunday.
45:33
SPEAKER_00: Every single person.
45:35
SPEAKER_00: Doesn't matter like what age, what gender, anything.
45:38
SPEAKER_00: It's just part of the fabric of the community, you know.
45:42
SPEAKER_00: Whereas if you're, you know, in LA, you're probably gonna see a 67-year-old wearing an antisocial social club shirt, you know.
45:50
SPEAKER_01: I love when you go off on these passionate tangents of yours and your voice just gets louder and louder.
45:54
SPEAKER_00: But it's true.
45:55
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's true.
45:56
SPEAKER_00: So, like, my answer in a long-winded fashion is that I still think Vegas is always gonna deal with a little bit of that West Coast component.
46:07
SPEAKER_00: And that's why I don't think it's so fair to just knock Las Vegas.
46:11
SPEAKER_00: I think it's a West Coast thing, personally.
46:14
SPEAKER_00: So I just don't think the fandom is ever gonna be what it is on the East Coast or the Midwest, just because the weather's pretty good, there's other things that do.
46:22
SPEAKER_00: I could go like Dominic, she she gambles for the first time, wins 470 something bucks.
46:28
SPEAKER_00: She said on this show.
46:29
SPEAKER_00: So it's like, yeah, if my team, you know, is getting blown out in the second quarter, let me just go, you know.
46:35
SPEAKER_00: So that option's not really in, you know, Cleveland, Ohio.
46:40
SPEAKER_00: Right.
46:41
SPEAKER_00: Right.
46:41
SPEAKER_01: I fucking love when our guests do their homework on our show.
46:44
SPEAKER_01: It it makes me smile so big.
46:45
SPEAKER_01: I love that.
46:46
SPEAKER_00: She he didn't he didn't know that I, you know, I didn't Dominic, you know, she lives in Green Valley Ranch too.
46:50
SPEAKER_00: I know that.
46:52
SPEAKER_02: Um Do you know her full address?
46:55
SPEAKER_00: What's her social?
46:57
SPEAKER_00: Unlike me, I'm gonna, I'm she was on it.
46:59
SPEAKER_00: Um I live in Centennial Hills, everybody.
47:02
SPEAKER_00: I go find I'm always you know, you know the uh cafe Reno in Centennial Hill.
47:08
SPEAKER_00: I'm always there.
47:08
SPEAKER_00: Always there.
47:09
SPEAKER_00: Always there.
47:09
SPEAKER_00: You can find me there.
47:11
SPEAKER_02: Maybe we'll run into each other.
47:14
SPEAKER_00: You know, drive to drive four and a half hours and find me at, you know, I'm in Sky Canyon.
47:21
SPEAKER_00: You're telling everybody where you're at.
47:24
SPEAKER_01: I'm making her snort.
47:25
SPEAKER_01: Once you get the snort going, it doesn't stop.
47:27
SPEAKER_01: It's gonna keep on going.
47:28
SPEAKER_00: I'm you know, I'm almost I only shop at Smith Marketplace.
47:31
SPEAKER_00: I don't go to regular Smiths.
47:33
SPEAKER_00: The one over there?
47:34
SPEAKER_00: That's a great marketplace.
47:35
SPEAKER_00: I'm just riffing.
47:36
SPEAKER_00: See, she doesn't even know if I'm telling the truth.
47:38
SPEAKER_00: Does any has any this is like a Seinfeld thing?
47:41
SPEAKER_00: Vegas local.
47:42
SPEAKER_00: We should do like a whole segment on Vegas.
47:44
SPEAKER_00: Like, I want to do a Vegas local Seinfeld thing with you.
47:47
SPEAKER_00: Do you think there's any Vegas locals that like they're so stuffy that they only go to Smith Marketplaces?
47:53
SPEAKER_00: Without a doubt.
47:53
SPEAKER_00: You think?
47:54
SPEAKER_02: I think you're looking at one right there.
47:56
SPEAKER_00: No.
47:56
SPEAKER_00: You only go to a Smith Market, you won't go to a regular Smith market.
48:00
SPEAKER_02: We shop at the commissary.
48:01
SPEAKER_02: I don't know where he's getting this information.
48:03
SPEAKER_02: You actually think, though, there's people that's yeah, the people that live right around the Smith Marketplace in Sky Canyon.
48:10
SPEAKER_02: 100%.
48:10
SPEAKER_00: Okay, but no, no, no.
48:11
SPEAKER_00: That's not what I'm saying.
48:13
SPEAKER_00: I'm saying, of course.
48:14
SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying somebody who lives five minutes from the Smith Marketplace should drive 45 minutes somewhere else to go to a different Smith's.
48:19
SPEAKER_00: I'm saying, let's just say that person has a doctor's appointment in, you know, Spring Valley.
48:27
SPEAKER_00: Are they gonna and they, oh, I gotta pick up eggs and milk and bread.
48:31
SPEAKER_00: Are they gonna, but they would not elect to go to that because it's a Smith's and not a Smith's marketplace.
48:38
SPEAKER_01: I would say yes because oh, that's actually a good point.
48:40
SPEAKER_01: I didn't think about that.
48:41
SPEAKER_01: What?
48:42
SPEAKER_01: Because Smith the Smiths Marketplace.
48:44
SPEAKER_01: I was thinking that they would know exactly what they needed and where it was so they can get in and out, but you're saying it's because of the their Because you have the regular Smiths, and then you have like the fancy Smiths.
48:53
SPEAKER_00: I'm saying because not even a pretentious, like it could be from a pretentious standpoint, but just because they like the experience.
48:58
SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's bars in the Smith Marketplace.
49:00
SPEAKER_01: Have you been to the bar?
49:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, of course.
49:01
SPEAKER_00: It's you know, it's a great, it's a good experience.
49:03
SPEAKER_00: I'm not knocking it.
49:04
SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying, see, people think I'm thinking about sports expanding in Las Vegas while I'm driving in my car.
49:10
SPEAKER_00: I'm not, I'm listening to, hey, big head, you know, what's the best cougar spots?
49:16
SPEAKER_00: And and do people who only are there, people who only go to a Smiths Market.
49:22
SPEAKER_00: Like these are the high-level things I think about, you know.
49:25
SPEAKER_01: So you last time you came on, we talked a little bit about how you interned for Howard.
49:29
SPEAKER_01: Do you mind if we talk about Howard for a little bit?
49:30
SPEAKER_00: The only one other thing.
49:31
SPEAKER_00: Do we know who Don Tortaco is?
49:34
SPEAKER_00: And is that his last name?
49:35
SPEAKER_00: That was the only other thing I Julie has no idea who you're talking about.
49:39
SPEAKER_00: I heard next week you guys have Roberto coming on of Roberto's Roberto.
49:43
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what y'all are saying.
49:46
SPEAKER_02: How does she not like again?
49:47
SPEAKER_00: This is You don't know Roberto?
49:49
SPEAKER_00: This is what I need more.
49:50
SPEAKER_02: Of Roberto's from what?
49:51
SPEAKER_02: From Roberto's Taco?
49:53
SPEAKER_02: Yes!
49:53
SPEAKER_00: No, I don't know Roberto.
49:55
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
49:55
SPEAKER_00: What about Don Tortaco?
49:56
SPEAKER_00: You know him?
49:57
SPEAKER_00: No.
49:57
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
49:57
SPEAKER_00: Open 24 hours.
49:58
SPEAKER_00: All right.
49:58
SPEAKER_00: No, sorry.
49:59
SPEAKER_00: What were you gonna say?
50:00
SPEAKER_00: What were you gonna say?
50:00
SPEAKER_01: Last time you came on, you we talked a little bit about how you interned for Howard.
50:03
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
50:04
SPEAKER_01: Howard Stern.
50:04
SPEAKER_01: And you know, the how that have you seen the HBO Max?
50:07
SPEAKER_01: I was gonna ask you.
50:08
SPEAKER_01: I I saw the first episode.
50:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
50:11
SPEAKER_01: I didn't have high expectations because I I don't like the new Howard.
50:14
SPEAKER_01: I understand why he changed because he wanted to get these A-list celebrities in.
50:19
SPEAKER_01: And to me, I still listen to Howard 101.
50:21
SPEAKER_01: Like the you know, the but that is no longer.
50:24
SPEAKER_01: They got rid of that, yeah.
50:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
50:25
SPEAKER_01: But that was that's the Howard that I grew up on.
50:27
SPEAKER_01: That's the Howard that I still listen to.
50:29
SPEAKER_01: So I try to get into the HBO one where it's it's the modern day Howard, and it's just it's just not the same for me.
50:34
SPEAKER_01: But I'd love to get your opinion on this.
50:36
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm listening I think we touched on this a little bit last time.
50:40
SPEAKER_00: I honestly think, like, let's talk about you for a second.
50:43
SPEAKER_00: Like, in I don't know, in 20 years, you might be your focus, might not be the top 10 cougar spots in Henderson, you know?
50:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it might be, you know, like you really see yourself growing and evolving and changing.
50:56
SPEAKER_00: I think he's actually done a really good job of crafting that bounce.
51:00
SPEAKER_00: Like, you watch that HBO show, you listen to the the full thing on Sirius XM, they're still talking about very dirty things for somebody who's of his stature.
51:09
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
51:10
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know how many people on TV are just talking about oral sex and all those types of things and can get away with it.
51:19
SPEAKER_01: Can get away with it without blowing.
51:20
SPEAKER_00: So I I admire that.
51:21
SPEAKER_00: Like, I you know, I I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but I I don't see Wolf Blitzer going on CNN talking about oral sex, you know.
51:29
SPEAKER_00: So not nor do I want to listen to that.
51:31
SPEAKER_00: Not that it should.
51:32
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if anyone really wants to.
51:33
SPEAKER_00: But I think like that's why, like, to me, I just think anybody who hates on him is so is just missing the boat.
51:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
51:41
SPEAKER_00: And that's what like I think he just gets so much flack because listen, it's not that you have to enjoy that.
51:47
SPEAKER_00: It's like you like Sabrina Carpenter's second album.
51:50
SPEAKER_00: I like her first album.
51:51
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't, there's no right and wrong, but the point is to actually just shit on the guy for what he's accomplished and being able, people don't realize I've been doing this for a long time.
52:02
SPEAKER_00: I've been on this trajectory for a while, I have a lot of dreams and aspirations, but to get to a point where your bosses are okay with you doing that and to be making money and you know, and actually employing people where you can actually go on and talk about whatever the hell you want.
52:17
SPEAKER_00: I mean, anybody who's shitting on him is jealous, in my in my book.
52:22
SPEAKER_00: That's just how I look at it.
52:23
SPEAKER_00: Because, yes, is he not is it is it not as X-rated and explicit?
52:29
SPEAKER_00: And is he a maniac the same?
52:32
SPEAKER_00: No, he's not that way so much anymore.
52:34
SPEAKER_00: But he evolved and grew.
52:36
SPEAKER_00: His interviews were different.
52:37
SPEAKER_00: He'd have somebody come on and it would be like very like he's a he's a in attack mode.
52:41
SPEAKER_03: Right.
52:42
SPEAKER_00: Robin Williams would come on and he's like, you know, attacking Arnold Schwarzenegger comes on, he's you know, attacking.
52:48
SPEAKER_00: Now it's like a more of a relaxed situation, and it's a different time in media.
52:53
SPEAKER_01: And my dad, who grew up also on Howard, he's in his 70s and he actually kind of evolved with Howard.
53:01
SPEAKER_01: I don't think my dad would be in a in a situation where he wants to constantly hear Howard talk about, you know, whatever he was, yeah, as aggressive as he was back then.
53:10
SPEAKER_01: Right.
53:10
SPEAKER_01: He likes this new Howard because he's my dad as the audience has also kind of evolved.
53:15
SPEAKER_01: So it's it's not there are definitely people that hate on Howard and shit on him for how he changed, but there's also the audience that kind of evolved with him.
53:23
SPEAKER_00: And I thought they did a really good job with the HBO show, actually.
53:26
SPEAKER_00: I was very impressed.
53:27
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you guys should really watch.
53:29
SPEAKER_00: I mean, especially for what you guys do and having long form content.
53:32
SPEAKER_00: I mean, for them to actually trim it down to an hour and a half and make it engaging and feel like you're getting the full show, uh, cutting it like audio, visual.
53:42
SPEAKER_00: Like it was actually and you'll see at the end of the show on the HBO Max credits.
53:46
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's a long staff of people executing that show.
53:50
SPEAKER_00: So a lot of the people who are there still, like from when I was there, um, I, you know, I I'm just one of those people I think he has got into the apex of his field, and I really think anybody who's like trying to uh shit on that is just jealous, or they just are not understanding how impressive it is to get to that place in media, you know.
54:15
SPEAKER_01: You told a story last time, it may have been after we stopped filming, where Ronnie and you Ronnie the limo driver, and you you still have a relationship together, and he mentioned you on the show about how he was like uh you know giving you advice or whatever.
54:28
SPEAKER_01: And what did they call it?
54:29
SPEAKER_01: The the the the cockfather or something like that?
54:31
SPEAKER_01: Something, yeah.
54:32
SPEAKER_00: They but they started playing like the veto corleone like godfather music in the background, like you know, you come to me on my daughter's way, you know, and it's it was very fun.
54:43
SPEAKER_00: People started sending me that all over.
54:45
SPEAKER_01: I tried to find it, I couldn't find it.
54:46
SPEAKER_01: I have it on my phone.
54:47
SPEAKER_01: Please send it to me afterwards.
54:48
SPEAKER_00: It's yeah, so this was like, you know, this is back in in my dating days when I wasn't sure having so much luck, not so many great people out there.
54:57
SPEAKER_00: And then uh, yeah, so I was at his house and he was giving me advice, and then somehow this one wounds up on the air.
55:05
SPEAKER_00: And he and uh and then they start, Fred starts playing the music from The Godfather, and Howard starts imitating like Vito Corleone with Vito Corleone, he actually put cotton balls in his mouth to give that a really yeah, you know.
55:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh uh, you know, so that was an interesting thing.
55:25
SPEAKER_01: Do you still have a relationship with him?
55:26
SPEAKER_01: With Ronnie?
55:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
55:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
55:28
SPEAKER_01: I think I saw him, I don't know, I saw somebody that looks like him then at NASCAR uh this past weekend.
55:33
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if it was him or not.
55:34
SPEAKER_01: I know he's a big race guy.
55:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
55:36
SPEAKER_00: No, he's out and about, he's on the Morgan and Morgan commercials.
55:39
SPEAKER_00: You can see them on Fox Five.
55:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
55:41
SPEAKER_00: He's great on those.
55:42
SPEAKER_00: He's wearing sunglasses in a dark lit room.
55:44
SPEAKER_00: He looks good, man.
55:45
SPEAKER_00: He looks good, man.
55:46
SPEAKER_00: God bless him.
55:46
SPEAKER_00: He's a great, he's actually a great dude, a really nice guy.
55:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
55:50
SPEAKER_00: Um, genuine.
55:51
SPEAKER_00: He's like a genuine dude.
55:52
SPEAKER_00: Like who he is on air, it's a little exaggerated, but he's he's a you know, a really nice normal guy.
55:58
SPEAKER_00: So I like him a lot.
55:59
SPEAKER_00: He was hard on me, man.
56:00
SPEAKER_00: Was he?
56:01
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
56:01
SPEAKER_00: When I would get Howard his lunch and his breakfast, and like Ronnie was just so funny to me.
56:08
SPEAKER_00: Like if it was a you know, is this cold, you know, like just you know, stuff.
56:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
56:13
SPEAKER_01: What uh so what's next for Mike Davis then?
56:15
SPEAKER_01: Because you're you're still the face of the Silver State Sport Net Sport and Entertainment Network.
56:20
SPEAKER_01: What where do you go from there, man?
56:22
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, I I I think it's like uh it's something I ask myself all the time.
56:28
SPEAKER_00: I don't have the answer.
56:28
SPEAKER_00: I really don't.
56:30
SPEAKER_00: Um I I think my big thing is like I always look inward.
56:34
SPEAKER_00: I try to just think about what challenges me, what excites me, uh, what scares me in a good way.
56:41
SPEAKER_00: Um so you know, we'll see.
56:43
SPEAKER_00: I'll probably run for office.
56:45
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
56:46
SPEAKER_00: No, I'm joking.
56:47
SPEAKER_00: Uh I won't be doing that.
56:48
SPEAKER_02: No, everything but you won't go to a dinner party at her house, apparently.
56:51
SPEAKER_00: Or I sure I was she was top of mind.
56:55
SPEAKER_00: But I would go to her dinner party.
56:56
SPEAKER_00: But uh no, I you know, it's it's one of those things.
57:00
SPEAKER_00: Like I um I think about that a lot, you know, and what what would challenge me where I feel like I can make an impact and all that stuff.
57:08
SPEAKER_00: So uh what would challenge you?
57:11
SPEAKER_00: Um selling insurance.
57:16
SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
57:18
SPEAKER_02: Uh I don't, you know, like at State Farm with Fernando.
57:22
SPEAKER_02: With Fernando, yes.
57:23
SPEAKER_00: I think um, you know, I would honestly like if I'm if I could be in the moment very just I've been real this whole time, but if I could just be very raw, like I think it would be trying to be a little bit to say things that I feel like I can't say.
57:40
SPEAKER_00: You know, I think that's what most broadcasters deal with, you know.
57:45
SPEAKER_00: And I feel like there's a responsibility, and because I like went to journalism school and all those things, like I I feel like I need to be authentic and I need to be proper in certain types of things, but I do think the way in which we're going in media, like voices and perspective and opinion is just where things are going, you know, and uh it's a daily struggle for me sometimes to know how much I should tap into that, you know.
58:13
SPEAKER_00: Like I part of why I love coming here and being on this show is like I really I'm making jokes about the cougar thing, but I think that's fun.
58:20
SPEAKER_00: Like, and I like that you guys, there's a space for both, and I think that's an important thing in today's age.
58:26
SPEAKER_00: And I think the reason why a Susie Lee comes on here or I come on here is because you know, there might be people that watch my shows and they're like, hey, like I don't like this, like it's just not not my cup of tea.
58:36
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be 50-50.
58:37
SPEAKER_00: It's like a Sabrina Carpenter album, you know, 50-50.
58:40
SPEAKER_01: Some people can we just put this on the table because this is we started talking about this before we've gotten it wrong the whole time.
58:46
SPEAKER_02: I like both albums.
58:49
SPEAKER_01: What's going on here, Julie?
58:50
SPEAKER_01: What did you say to Mike?
58:52
SPEAKER_02: Mike Davis does not know pop music, is what I've discovered today.
58:58
SPEAKER_00: How can I not know pop music if I know every word in lyric to bedcab by Sabrina Carpenter?
59:03
SPEAKER_00: How can he likes the one song where on stage she's launching rolling around on a bed?
59:09
SPEAKER_00: I like Slim Pickens, I like espresso, I like the whole thing.
59:13
SPEAKER_00: Don't start testing.
59:14
SPEAKER_00: She she's snorting.
59:18
SPEAKER_02: What it is for anybody who cares.
59:21
SPEAKER_02: I like short and sweet and man's best friend equally.
59:25
SPEAKER_02: They had different intentions from the artist and different intentions with the audience.
59:28
SPEAKER_02: Mike Davis says man's best friend is trash to never listen to it.
59:33
SPEAKER_02: It's awful.
59:33
SPEAKER_02: And short and sweet is the only good thing Sabrina Carpenter's ever put out.
59:37
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's that's a little that's very aggressive.
59:40
SPEAKER_00: I mean, wow.
59:40
SPEAKER_00: I mean uh that was like the political adversion of my music thing.
59:45
SPEAKER_00: You know, smear campaign.
59:46
SPEAKER_00: Smear camp is a smear campaign.
59:48
SPEAKER_00: Um you know, what I was saying was is that the point is, is like I listened to Sabrina Carpenter's first album.
59:57
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
59:58
SPEAKER_00: I listened to this album.
1:00:00
SPEAKER_00: I'm very strict with the songs that I download.
1:00:02
SPEAKER_00: I downloaded like if there was 12, I don't, I'm not, I don't know every song on the album, but if there was 12 songs, I downloaded like eight of them because they were like good.
1:00:12
SPEAKER_00: The second album comes out, everybody's getting all excited.
1:00:14
SPEAKER_00: She's, you know, a hitchhiker on a dirt road, putting out like Instagram reels.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_00: People are like, oh my god, the second album.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_00: If that was the first album, this could be the second album.
1:00:24
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be go in the comments.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_00: Somebody uh, somebody on YouTube, tell me.
1:00:29
SPEAKER_00: Maybe I'm a I just I'm gonna tell your audience is gonna be like, no, the first album was better.
1:00:34
SPEAKER_00: And then the only people who are gonna say the second album's better, I'm not saying this is you, but there are people out there that are they're just contrarian, and they're just gonna be like, oh no, it's cooler to 100% saying this about me.
1:00:46
SPEAKER_00: No, I'm not saying it about you.
1:00:47
SPEAKER_00: We both like Mac Miller, we both are fanboys of him and NPR Tiny Desk.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_00: But I'm just saying there's people that love to be contrary, like it's the person who they just they want to go against whatever.
1:00:59
SPEAKER_00: It's like the person who says, Oh, the Beatles were better with Pete Best.
1:01:02
SPEAKER_00: Like, what like what?
1:01:04
SPEAKER_00: You know, like are you know, people have these random takes that are just like they're just trying to show that they know things.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_00: But sometimes, you know, sometimes the the the mainstream is good.
1:01:17
SPEAKER_01: This is why Mike Davis is a pro, because he's you know, he's he I can tell that you want to say more.
1:01:23
SPEAKER_01: I know that you want to kind of unravel a little bit more, but you can't because you're you're a professional on Twitter and you got a career.
1:01:29
SPEAKER_00: Well, you're bringing that's why you're good, because you're bringing me back to my point.
1:01:32
SPEAKER_00: My point is what you were asking me is tapping in is like what I think every person who is, and it's every I mean nowadays it's not just people with a podcast, it's like anybody with an Instagram account or a TikTok, like, you know, you want to know how how anonymity on social media is the problem to me.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_03: Sure is.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_00: So I think anybody can say whatever the hell they want if they're anonymous, right?
1:01:57
SPEAKER_00: You know, but if you're somebody who's actually putting yourself out there and giving takes and trying to be engaging and fun, like you know, you have to be you have to be willing to be vulnerable, you know.
1:02:08
SPEAKER_00: I don't think there's a lot of people on Vegas TV news that would just come on here and want to make jokes about you know all the things that we're joking about.
1:02:17
SPEAKER_00: So I I like leaning into those things, but I feel like I could do more.
1:02:22
SPEAKER_00: And that's just me being honest.
1:02:23
SPEAKER_00: And that's why like I don't know personally, if I can't tell you today how I feel about going down that road.
1:02:30
SPEAKER_00: It's something that I think about in between thinking about Smith Marketplace.
1:02:35
SPEAKER_00: You know, I think about how much should I push the pedal to the metal, how much should I dig deeper and and say the things that you know I want to say, but then I hold back.
1:02:46
SPEAKER_01: I would love to see that though.
1:02:47
SPEAKER_01: I just on my own selfishly personal level, the uh the relationship that I have with you, I would love to see that side.
1:02:53
SPEAKER_01: Because even when the cameras are off, we'd be a little bit more of that, but obviously cameras are off, so it's it's you know a different ball game.
1:02:59
SPEAKER_01: But I like that.
1:03:00
SPEAKER_01: Uh I like I like your opinions.
1:03:02
SPEAKER_01: I think you have a really good eye for those things, and you you're you're quick-witted, and your your answers are very intelligent too.
1:03:10
SPEAKER_01: So it's not like you're just randomly spouting off nonsense.
1:03:13
SPEAKER_01: You actually have some some some value of behind of what you're saying.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_01: And I wish we could see more.
1:03:18
SPEAKER_01: I wish Vegas could see more of that, but I get it.
1:03:21
SPEAKER_01: I understand.
1:03:22
SPEAKER_01: You're you're a pro.
1:03:23
SPEAKER_00: No, I appreciate it.
1:03:24
SPEAKER_01: JC Fernandez, but he came on.
1:03:25
SPEAKER_01: He he came on.
1:03:27
SPEAKER_01: I mentioned this before.
1:03:28
SPEAKER_01: He was on the Mercedes in the Morning Show.
1:03:30
SPEAKER_01: He got got let go, got fired, but he couldn't speak about it until because of his NDA.
1:03:35
SPEAKER_01: And like the week his NDA expired, he came on our show.
1:03:38
SPEAKER_01: Oh wow.
1:03:38
SPEAKER_01: And he could have he he shared his side, and it was drastically different than what the radio station said.
1:03:44
SPEAKER_01: But he could have easily just gone out and unraveled and just let loose, and he didn't.
1:03:49
SPEAKER_01: He was he did it very professionally, he was it was very uh very politically correct.
1:03:55
SPEAKER_01: But I wanted him to so bad.
1:03:56
SPEAKER_01: I wanted him to just you know rain fire to the point where even the radio station got wind of uh us having his his show pup published the next day.
1:04:06
SPEAKER_01: They called me and they wanted uh early access to the episode just to make sure.
1:04:12
SPEAKER_01: What did you say?
1:04:13
SPEAKER_01: Well, I I said yeah because of because of Heather.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_01: She was still working there and I didn't want to get her in trouble.
1:04:18
SPEAKER_01: But it was it was nothing.
1:04:20
SPEAKER_01: Like he like they just they were just nervous that maybe he would.
1:04:24
SPEAKER_02: They wanted to know if they needed to be ready.
1:04:26
SPEAKER_01: If they wanted to lawyer up or something, they are.
1:04:28
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's you know it's interesting.
1:04:30
SPEAKER_00: It's like, you know, I think the rules have changed just so much.
1:04:33
SPEAKER_00: It's you know, uh playing it safe, like I think in a lot of ways is the it's the it's the worst thing you can do to advance, you know.
1:04:45
SPEAKER_00: And I think being bold is an important thing, like whether it's in dating, whether it's about upward mobility at a job, whether it's about education, like being bold is an important thing and it's an attendant to like how I really feel about like how you one should lead their life.
1:05:00
SPEAKER_00: And I think boldness is a is a big thing, and I've been bold a a lot in my life, and there's moments where I shied from being bold, and there's moments where I roast the occasion, and there's moments where I've pondered more about being bold, you know.
1:05:14
SPEAKER_00: But boldness is an important thing, and I think the big thing that I think about with it is one day I will be bold, I know that, and one day I will take those steps.
1:05:24
SPEAKER_00: I just want to make sure I do it at the right time.
1:05:27
SPEAKER_01: Fair.
1:05:29
SPEAKER_01: And I I think that shows with us too.
1:05:30
SPEAKER_01: I think we're we've slowly become more bold each each time.
1:05:34
SPEAKER_01: And when we be we we put it out there and we get a positive response, and we're like, okay, we can do a little bit more, do a little bit more.
1:05:41
SPEAKER_01: So I I think that's a big a big step a big difference between when you first came on to where we were trying to go and slowly getting to uh where we are today and where we're gonna be the next time you come on to is just start being more authentic, being more bold, and you know, seeing where that takes us.
1:05:55
SPEAKER_01: That's funny.
1:05:56
SPEAKER_00: It's I mean, listen, it's it' it's it's a spectrum.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_00: In my first episode with you guys, I I did mention Hawktua and Israel-Palestine in the same sentence.
1:06:06
SPEAKER_00: So you can't say I'm not bold.
1:06:10
SPEAKER_00: So it's we're just talking about a spectrum of bold.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_02: You might be the first person to ever put those two things in the same sentence.
1:06:16
SPEAKER_00: And it it was it was gold.
1:06:17
SPEAKER_00: I know.
1:06:18
SPEAKER_00: You clipped it and I I saw that I was I was driving, I wasn't even out the door.
1:06:23
SPEAKER_00: I think my left foot left the studio and I already saw a notification, accepted uh invite to, and I'm like, oh, this is great.
1:06:31
SPEAKER_00: They're gonna they comb through something good, you know?
1:06:35
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh, okay, that was it.
1:06:37
SPEAKER_01: I loved it.
1:06:38
SPEAKER_00: I was like, man, if I accept this, if I press accept on IJ, there's a decent chance my 92-year-old grandmother in you know, in Springfield PA, she might drop dead immediately seeing this.
1:06:51
SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't know if I could have that on my conscience.
1:06:53
SPEAKER_02: There's the moment he decided to not be bold.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_00: It's kind of that collaboration.
1:06:58
SPEAKER_00: She can't hear like Howard's mom.
1:06:59
SPEAKER_00: So it's like, do you imagine somebody trying to explain to her who Hawk Tua is?
1:07:06
SPEAKER_00: Who?
1:07:07
SPEAKER_00: Hawk hawk what?
1:07:09
SPEAKER_00: What does Hawktua mean?
1:07:11
SPEAKER_00: What kind of bird?
1:07:14
SPEAKER_01: Oh my God.
1:07:16
SPEAKER_01: Well, Mike, this is great, man.
1:07:17
SPEAKER_01: This is so much fun.
1:07:18
SPEAKER_01: I love having you here.
1:07:19
SPEAKER_00: It's great to be back.
1:07:20
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
1:07:21
SPEAKER_01: We have uh we have a little thing going on at the end of the year that we're putting together now.
1:07:24
SPEAKER_01: It's still in the very early stages, but I want to make sure you're here for that.
1:07:27
SPEAKER_01: It'll be fun.
1:07:28
SPEAKER_00: That'd be great.
1:07:28
SPEAKER_01: Mike Davis, where can people find more of you on in life?
1:07:31
SPEAKER_00: At Sabrina Carpenter.
1:07:33
SPEAKER_00: Um uh no, at my at Michael Mike Davis uh on Fox Five.
1:07:39
SPEAKER_00: You can watch my shows at uh midnight.
1:07:41
SPEAKER_00: We have Silver State Sports Live on at midnight on Fox Five, 1230 at night.
1:07:46
SPEAKER_00: We got all of our weekly shows like Sin City Beat, Sound Off Sports, Hockey in the Desert, uh Chalk and Chat, a lot of great stuff.
1:07:54
SPEAKER_00: And then of course, channel 77 on YouTube, uh or on cable, uh YouTube TV, Silver State Sports Entertainment Network.
1:08:02
SPEAKER_00: You can check us on YouTube, wherever you want.
1:08:04
SPEAKER_00: Do you ever stop?
1:08:05
SPEAKER_00: Do you just do when's the last time you took a vacation?
1:08:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, I took, you know what?
1:08:10
SPEAKER_00: I have to give a lot of credit.
1:08:11
SPEAKER_00: Like my girlfriend, it's the first time.
1:08:14
SPEAKER_00: Like I work life balance has always been a hard thing for me.
1:08:18
SPEAKER_00: But I think when you find the right person and somebody who is more important to you than you know, things that were the most important to you for your entire life, when you when that right person comes into your life, it work life balance, it completely changes.
1:08:33
SPEAKER_00: And it doesn't seem like a trade-off, it seems like um just like a great opportunity.
1:08:40
SPEAKER_00: So I've done a lot more travel, I've been a lot more present, and uh yeah, it's it's been a good thing.
1:08:47
SPEAKER_00: She's uh she's definitely opened up that part of me.
1:08:50
SPEAKER_01: Happy for you, man.
1:08:51
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
1:08:51
SPEAKER_01: Sad to be here.
1:08:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:08:53
SPEAKER_01: Next time.
1:08:53
SPEAKER_01: Next time.
1:08:54
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, that will be that will be a show.
1:08:57
SPEAKER_01: Julie has some questions for her.
1:08:58
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:08:59
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:08:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we'll be here.
1:09:00
SPEAKER_02: Oh wow.
1:09:00
SPEAKER_02: We'll make it like hot seat style.
1:09:02
SPEAKER_02: I'm there, she's there, Mike's right here.
1:09:05
SPEAKER_01: Just sweating bullets.
1:09:07
SPEAKER_01: That'll be great.
1:09:08
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:09:08
SPEAKER_01: Mike Davis, you're a rock star, man.
1:09:10
SPEAKER_01: I appreciate you coming.
1:09:11
SPEAKER_00: Thank you guys.
1:09:11
SPEAKER_00: I'm big fans.
1:09:12
SPEAKER_00: I can't wait for uh round three.
1:09:14
SPEAKER_01: Yes, absolutely.
1:09:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:09:15
SPEAKER_01: Catch new episodes each week on ipighead.com.
1:09:18
SPEAKER_01: Julie.
1:09:19
SPEAKER_00: Bye.