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Ep. 36: Steelers Insider on Sunday's Matchup | Jags A.M. Podcast · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into Jags am here October twenty sixth, Kai, Nannie Stevens,
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  Speaker 1: Brian Sexton, John Oser. We're getting ready for Steelers week
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  Speaker 1: and it's our last game before the bye, so we
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  Speaker 1: have to focus on this one and not get ahead
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  Speaker 1: of ourselves, right, not in vacation mode yet. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk a little bit more in depth. We're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: one of our insiders in here to talk Steelers, but
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  Speaker 1: we wanna talk about our big things first, and first
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  Speaker 1: big thing is gonna be Tomlin. Mike Tomlin has been
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  Speaker 1: the coach in Pittsburgh quite some time now and with
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  Speaker 1: him comes his reputation, and we got to hear a
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  Speaker 1: little bit from him, and Doug talked about his relationship
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  Speaker 1: with Tomlin and what he's known for.
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  Speaker 2: John, I know Mike pretty well, and I've coached against him,
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  Speaker 2: you know, several times now and in a lot of
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  Speaker 2: respect for him and what he's done there. Gosh, as
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  Speaker 2: you mentioned, he's won a lot of football games, you know,
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  Speaker 2: double digit wins, you know, most of his career, and
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  Speaker 2: that that's pretty impressive. You know, obviously championships and things
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  Speaker 2: of that nature. And you know, he does a great
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  Speaker 2: job of just of just getting getting his teams prepared.
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  Speaker 2: The way he messages his team, you know, motivates his team.
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  Speaker 2: They play hard, they play physical, they're fast. It's a
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  Speaker 2: disciplined group and they always have been. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's just it's kind of the tradition of the Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 2: Steelers over time, you know, through history, and he's he's
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  Speaker 2: definitely carried that, carried that on in his.
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  Speaker 3: Career there as the head coach.
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  Speaker 1: Brian, What's one thing that comes to mind for you
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  Speaker 1: when you think of Mike Tomlin.
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  Speaker 4: He fitted effortlessly. He was a young coach guy when
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  Speaker 4: they hired him fifteen years ago, coming off with Tony
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  Speaker 4: Dungee staff and Dungee obviously had ties to Pittsburgh, so
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  Speaker 4: they knew what they were getting. But in all these
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  Speaker 4: years they've had Chuck Nole, Bill Kauer and Mike Tomlin,
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  Speaker 4: and he has he has won a super Bowl, just
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  Speaker 4: like Bill Cower, not four like Nole, but he's he's
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  Speaker 4: been a really good coach and kept the Steelers' mentality
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  Speaker 4: alive right that run the ball, play great defense. I
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  Speaker 4: just he's been tremendous and just seamless in the Pittsburgh mentality.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you think of the Steelers, and the first thing
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  Speaker 5: you always think of is, in fact, they've had three
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  Speaker 5: coaches in fifty four years. And so when I think
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  Speaker 5: of Tomlin, I think of the organization and how they
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  Speaker 5: are able to commit to an idea. And with Tomlin,
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  Speaker 5: when the organization does that and you know they are
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  Speaker 5: committed to you, if they know you're doing the right thing,
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  Speaker 5: and if they know you're coaching to sort of this standard,
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  Speaker 5: then you can succeed. And with the Steelers, so much
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  Speaker 5: of it is I kind of compare him to the
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  Speaker 5: way the Titans have played lately, where you know they're
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  Speaker 5: going to get the maximum out of what they have
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  Speaker 5: on the field. They're gonna play to a certain way.
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  Speaker 5: And I always say with the Titans, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 5: not just search. I'm not so sure it's true this year,
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  Speaker 5: but they know how Rabel wants them to play. Well,
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  Speaker 5: there's never any doubt with the Steelers what the expectations
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  Speaker 5: are in the NFL. If you've got everybody working on
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  Speaker 5: the same page, everybody knowing how you're supposed to play,
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  Speaker 5: you're gonna be in a lot of close games. And
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  Speaker 5: if you believe in the coach, you're gonna win some
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  Speaker 5: of those games. So they really speak to that ideal.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, Jaguars fans are tired of hearing that after
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  Speaker 5: thirty years, but to me, that's the model franchise. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: and even with New England having their run. I was
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  Speaker 5: with the Colts for ten years Pittsburgh. You always knew
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  Speaker 5: that they were going to compete. They had an ideal,
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  Speaker 5: they played to it, and Tomlin's fit right in there.
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  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, that's exactly what it is.
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  Speaker 4: The Steelers way has always been the same, always, and
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  Speaker 4: he just his players love playing for him. He's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of fun to watch when he's mad at a
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  Speaker 4: press conference because he has no filter.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's been great for the game.
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  Speaker 5: And they also have the courage the Steelers do and
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  Speaker 5: they always have not to. If Tomlin goes seven to
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  Speaker 5: ten this year, there won't be oh my goodness, it's
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  Speaker 5: the coach's fault. It's always the coach's fault. Well, sometimes
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  Speaker 5: an organization a coward had slide years. Well, when the
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  Speaker 5: coach's fault, there are other things going on. They have
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  Speaker 5: the belief or whatever it is not to always blame
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  Speaker 5: the coach, which it seems like most other franchise, I
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  Speaker 5: want to blame the coach because the fans did.
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  Speaker 4: And I can remember a time where it was tough
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  Speaker 4: to sell tickets in Jacksonville, right, And I can remember
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  Speaker 4: someone in Pittsburgh say they don't have that problem here, right.
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  Speaker 3: So they don't make decisions.
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  Speaker 4: Based on what do the fans want and will it
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  Speaker 4: help them buy tickets next year? They always make football
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  Speaker 4: based decisions, not marketing based decisions. And when you reach
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  Speaker 4: that point, and not every franchise does. In fact, if
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  Speaker 4: you do, when you reach that point, you can be
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  Speaker 4: patient with your coach and know what he's doing.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's huge. You guys mentioned that relationship
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  Speaker 1: between ownership and coach. That doesn't happen everywhere. To have
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  Speaker 1: that belief in your coach, and I think we like
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  Speaker 1: to think that having the GM, the owner and Doug
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  Speaker 1: on the same page here, that's how you start something
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  Speaker 1: like that, having faith in everybody and all working together.
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  Speaker 1: Our second big thing this week or this today, I
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  Speaker 1: should say it's gonna be TJ. Watt because he's a
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  Speaker 1: really big thing and he's a game wrecker. We heard
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  Speaker 1: Mike tom when talking about Traylon being a game wrecker.
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  Speaker 1: This is their version of that. Trevor Lawrence talked about
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  Speaker 1: it yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: And he's not just a pass rusher. He's a great
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  Speaker 6: defensive player. I mean, he's good against the run, he's
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  Speaker 6: good dropping in coverage. He just had a pick last
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  Speaker 6: week against the Rams, dropping out underneath and zone. So
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  Speaker 6: I mean, he's just an all around great player and
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  Speaker 6: you got to always know where he's at. You gotta
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  Speaker 6: have a plan for him. So it definitely puts some
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  Speaker 6: stress on you. And then you look at the other
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  Speaker 6: side and they got high Smith, who I played against
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  Speaker 6: actually in college. You went to UNC Charlotte, which is
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  Speaker 6: just funny seeing him again in just the career he's had.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I knew he was going to be a
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  Speaker 6: studg when we played him his senior year there he
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  Speaker 6: was giving us fits.
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  Speaker 3: So it's both those guys. Really.
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  Speaker 6: That's what makes a challenging too, is you don't have
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  Speaker 6: to worry about just one guy.
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  Speaker 3: You got one on each edge.
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  Speaker 6: So it's a challenge and you know, we're gonna have
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  Speaker 6: to have a great plan for it, and we will,
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  Speaker 6: but you know, we're kind of working through all that
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  Speaker 6: right now and it'll be it'll be a good battle Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: John Trevor brings up there, it's not just TJ. Watt,
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  Speaker 1: it'shih Smith on the other side too, and it's that
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  Speaker 1: combination that can be difficult for certain offenses to deal
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  Speaker 1: with well.
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  Speaker 7: And they've always got one.
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  Speaker 5: I mean thirty years have been covering the league and
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  Speaker 5: it seems like, you know, it's not TJ.
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  Speaker 7: Watt over there, it's somebody.
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  Speaker 5: So again, I think that speaks to when they draft
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  Speaker 5: a player like that, like TJ. Watt, they know exactly
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  Speaker 5: what they want out of a player when they draft him,
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  Speaker 5: and they draft him for spots, they draft him for fit.
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  Speaker 5: He's been the perfect fit. Speak to your point, guy.
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  Speaker 5: They really are built around their edge rushers ability to
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  Speaker 5: get to the quarterback. The Jaguars are built overall defense,
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  Speaker 5: good edge players, not necessarily we're gonna get to the
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  Speaker 5: quarterback every time.
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  Speaker 7: It's more of a team concepts.
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  Speaker 5: So I don't know that it's almost like their polar
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  Speaker 5: opposite ways to play good defenses these two teams. Because
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  Speaker 5: the Jaguars are going to stop the run, a Steelers
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  Speaker 5: are on a really a great run defense because.
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  Speaker 3: They is amazing to hear well.
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  Speaker 5: But they play at three to four and they have
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  Speaker 5: committed to playing a lot of two five. Really, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: they don't really emphasize stopping the run. They emphasize getting
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  Speaker 5: you in enough bad situations that they can have their
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  Speaker 5: edge wreshlers to get to the quarterback and force mistakes.
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  Speaker 7: So they're a different kind of Steelers.
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  Speaker 3: Tap.
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  Speaker 4: There's no question there were times where you just you'd
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  Speaker 4: slam your head into the line of scrimmage over and
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  Speaker 4: over and over, and you'd leave the game with, you know,
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  Speaker 4: eighteen rushing attempts for twenty nine yards. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 4: how good they always used to be against that. I
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  Speaker 4: understand they've changed things up a little bit. I watched
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  Speaker 4: the game the Rams game last week and TJ. Watt
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  Speaker 4: popped off the screen, so I went back just to
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  Speaker 4: confirm it and watch the replay. And he is a
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  Speaker 4: tremendous player because he can do so many different things.
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  Speaker 4: It's not just chase the passer. It's dropped back in
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  Speaker 4: coverage and still be an explosive guy, and he makes
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  Speaker 4: everyone around him better. Ryan Clark is at the safety
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  Speaker 4: he's on ESPN, said this week that he thought he
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  Speaker 4: had a chance to be the greatest dealer of all time.
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  Speaker 4: Just think about the great players they've had on that defense,
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  Speaker 4: how many Hall of Famers, And you're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Well, is he as good as Joe Green? Well, if
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  Speaker 3: you've got.
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  Speaker 4: Ryan Clark suggesting that a guy who played for the Stealers,
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  Speaker 4: who understands the mentality of that Steelers organization, it's a
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  Speaker 4: worthy conversation, and that tells you what you're up against.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna say he's not John's all.
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  Speaker 3: But well, I'm not saying he is.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just saying if they're talking about former Steelers are
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  Speaker 4: talking about it, that tells.
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  Speaker 3: You what they think of the guy.
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  Speaker 5: But he's I mean, yeah, I get it. The conversation.
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  Speaker 5: It is interesting to have. And he's young, so he's
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  Speaker 5: already got eighty eight sacks. I think in a Sack era.
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  Speaker 3: Well, listen this way.
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  Speaker 4: If at the end of his career he keeps playing
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  Speaker 4: this way and he's a Hall of Famer, is he
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  Speaker 4: worthy of having conversations?
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  Speaker 3: Where does he belong to the greatest?
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  Speaker 7: Sure?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well that's why I think what Ryan to say.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to our final big thing here today, terrible
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  Speaker 1: towels it's a tough environment to play in Pittsburgh, and
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence talked about what it means to him to
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  Speaker 1: go up there and play.
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  Speaker 6: Wanted to check off the list like playing in cool stadiums,
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  Speaker 6: historic places, and obviously Pittsburgh is just they got a
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  Speaker 6: great I mean just their whole organization has like an
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  Speaker 6: r aura around it.
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  Speaker 3: That's really cool. When they're you know, they had.
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  Speaker 6: Some obviously great players, some great teams. You always know
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  Speaker 6: kind of what team, what kind of team Pittsburgh's gonna
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  Speaker 6: have every year. I mean, super physical, great defense. Their
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  Speaker 6: offense is playing really well. I mean that's just you
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  Speaker 6: know what you're gonna get. So they're they're really consistent.
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  Speaker 6: Coach Thomlins obviously done a great job there. But I'm excited.
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  Speaker 6: I'm excited to play over there. We've played in some
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  Speaker 6: hostel environments, you know, Kansas City, New Orleans. I think
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  Speaker 6: those are up there, and this will be another one
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  Speaker 6: that'll be a challenge and it'll be fun to play.
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  Speaker 1: And John, what's it going to be like at Heinsfield
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  Speaker 1: or should I say at a pressure stadium instead?
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  Speaker 5: Well, when they get rolling, it's an impressive atmosphere. The
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  Speaker 5: other side of that is when the Jaguars have been good,
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  Speaker 5: they've gone up there and handled that atmosphere pretty well.
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  Speaker 5: And I think this is a team. It's silly to
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  Speaker 5: say you never worry about atmosphere because they're real in
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  Speaker 5: the NFL.
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  Speaker 7: But this team hasn't lost away from.
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  Speaker 5: The city yet this year. They were a good road
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  Speaker 5: team last year. It's never really bothered them. They didn't
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  Speaker 5: win in Kansas City last year twice, but there's a
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  Speaker 5: lot of teams that don't do that. I don't know
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  Speaker 5: if that was the crowd as much as the team
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  Speaker 5: you're playing. So it's intense when the Towels get rolling
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  Speaker 5: when they start playing renegade and late in the game
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  Speaker 5: they picked their spot to do it. But I don't
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  Speaker 5: think that that is something I've seen teams get overwhelmed
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  Speaker 5: by it.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know that this Jaguars team will get.
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  Speaker 1: Over by it.
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't think so.
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  Speaker 4: And Heinsfield is a great place to watch a game.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like old Three Rivers. They lost something when
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  Speaker 4: they left that old bull ring. You were not welcome
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  Speaker 4: at Three Rivers Stadium. Right now, in Hinzfield, it has
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  Speaker 4: more of a nice feel to it. You know, it's
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  Speaker 4: a nicer stadium, but when they're playing well, it's a
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  Speaker 4: tough place to win.
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  Speaker 1: We'll have to see how things go down on Sunday
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  Speaker 1: and stay with us here on jags Am. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: go cross over here as we talk to our Steelers
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  Speaker 1: insider coming up after the break. Welcome back to Jagsam,
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  Speaker 1: of course we have to go and talk to our
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  Speaker 1: Steelers insider. Chris Carter is here with us today, and Chris,
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  Speaker 1: we were talking a little bit yesterday about Mike Tomlin
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  Speaker 1: because I love to hear from Mike Tomlin. He's always
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  Speaker 1: a good time and he was calling Trayvon Walker a
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  Speaker 1: wrecking ball. We were just talking about TJ. Watt, your
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  Speaker 1: wrecking ball. So I know Mike Tomlin's not a huge
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  Speaker 1: fan of identity, But how would you describe your team
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  Speaker 1: because we see a lot of similarities between the two.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, that's what I I did a lot of
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  Speaker 8: talking about this week, is that I think this is
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  Speaker 8: a mirror match in a lot of ways.
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  Speaker 9: You have a young quarterback looking to prove himself.
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  Speaker 8: You have a first round running back from a twenty
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  Speaker 8: twenty one draft at Najie Harris and Travis Ada.
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  Speaker 9: You have TJ.
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  Speaker 8: Want and Alex high Smith the same way you have
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  Speaker 8: John Walker and Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 9: TJ.
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  Speaker 8: Want has been, you know, he's put himself in that
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  Speaker 8: conversation as one of the greatest defenders of all time.
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  Speaker 8: Just this last week with that interception that you were
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  Speaker 8: seeing there against.
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  Speaker 9: The Rams, he became the only tailor, only other.
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  Speaker 8: Player not named Lawrence Taylor to have seventy sacks seven
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  Speaker 8: interceptions in his first seven seasons in the NFL. He's
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  Speaker 8: at the same pace. He beats you in so many
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  Speaker 8: different ways. The Rams even schemed a way to try
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  Speaker 8: to take him and Alex Highsmith out. Either they were
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  Speaker 8: getting the ball out quick or they were tripling double
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  Speaker 8: teaming them to make sure that they couldn't get to
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  Speaker 8: Matt Stafford.
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  Speaker 9: And so when TJ.
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  Speaker 8: Watt realized that, he said, Okay, you want a double team,
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  Speaker 8: that's fine. I'm gonna drop back into coverage and figure
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  Speaker 8: and wait for you to jump on that. So that's
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  Speaker 8: where the defense has kind of been so far. They've
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  Speaker 8: been relying on playmaking. There was literally a game they
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  Speaker 8: won where both Alex Heisman and TJ. Watt scored touchdowns,
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  Speaker 8: scored more touchdown than the Steelers offense in the game.
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  Speaker 8: That's what they're trying to be right now. I think
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  Speaker 8: the Jaguars they've had more success stopping to run than.
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  Speaker 9: The Steelers so far.
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  Speaker 8: But one thing that the Steelers are also doing, they're
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  Speaker 8: coalescing a lot of new guys, a new linebacker corps
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  Speaker 8: that they've brought in. Their defensive front has been missing
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  Speaker 8: Cam Hayward all season and close closer and closer all
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  Speaker 8: season long. They've been getting sharper on defense.
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  Speaker 1: Chris, when you look at this offense, can you Pickett
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  Speaker 1: still trying to figure things out? And you, guys kind
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  Speaker 1: of reminiscent of the Jaguars last year where you're getting
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  Speaker 1: down early and then he's doing Can you Pickett specifically
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  Speaker 1: is doing great in the fourth quarter? What is it
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  Speaker 1: about that? Is you just like when the stress is
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  Speaker 1: there and he turns it on, or how is he
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  Speaker 1: so good in the second half.
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  Speaker 8: It's more like he doesn't freak out and he takes
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  Speaker 8: what's in front of him, and it's so crazy. He
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  Speaker 8: jumps from a passer rating of four to forty five
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  Speaker 8: in the first quarter, which would be like half of
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  Speaker 8: what the worst quarterback is doing right now in the NFL,
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  Speaker 8: all the way up to one hundred and two in
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  Speaker 8: the fourth quarter. That's how good he is in the
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  Speaker 8: fourth where he makes smart decisions. That's the guy with
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  Speaker 8: that I covered when he played at the University of Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 8: He would be clutch, though he would He want him
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  Speaker 8: to be more consistent in the first quarter, and he
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  Speaker 8: got more consistent in college. They're working on getting him
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  Speaker 8: more consistent in the pros.
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  Speaker 9: Can he Pickett though?
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  Speaker 8: I think the biggest thing is that you're seeing with
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  Speaker 8: the late fourth quarter plays. I think the game's slowing
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  Speaker 8: down for him in those moments because he's putting it
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  Speaker 8: on the line. He's kind of not thinking about just
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  Speaker 8: not turning the ball over. He's thinking about, Hey, let
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  Speaker 8: me go out there and make the play. And the
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  Speaker 8: Steelers they're trusting him to do that. And I think
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  Speaker 8: one thing that's really helping him, especially now, is the
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  Speaker 8: return of Deontay Johnson, is number one receiver who came
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  Speaker 8: back in that Rams game. Now he has two number
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  Speaker 8: one guys in him and George Pickens that can line
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  Speaker 8: up on either side of the ball and distract the
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  Speaker 8: defense from being a focus on one particular receiver, which
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  Speaker 8: could make for an interesting day.
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  Speaker 9: So Kenny Pickett still coming along.
• 14:49
  Speaker 8: I think that he when he is at his best,
• 14:51
  Speaker 8: he is a He is a really good decision maker
• 14:53
  Speaker 8: who can take advantage of wearing the defense is trying
• 14:56
  Speaker 8: to take one thing away and exposes another opportunity.
• 15:00
  Speaker 9: And that's what the Steelers want him to be.
• 15:01
  Speaker 8: Mike Tommins said, that's who they saw at Pitt, that's
• 15:03
  Speaker 8: who they're.
• 15:04
  Speaker 9: Hoping to get.
• 15:04
  Speaker 8: And he now has through eighteen starts, six game winning drives,
• 15:09
  Speaker 8: five fourth quarter comebacks.
• 15:11
  Speaker 9: They just got to hope that clutch play.
• 15:12
  Speaker 8: Expands into complete play and then they'll have their franchise quarterback.
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: People are so used to the Steelers as a run
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: centric team. Is there any sign that they're getting that
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: going or are they just going to be a passing offense.
• 15:27
  Speaker 8: Oh No, they're signs that they're getting that going, especially
• 15:29
  Speaker 8: in the second half against the Jaguars and against the Ravens.
• 15:33
  Speaker 8: The offensive line here, I think that's the biggest thing
• 15:35
  Speaker 8: in told in the Steelers back is.
• 15:37
  Speaker 9: Naji Harris and Jalen Warren. They're the one two punch
• 15:39
  Speaker 9: the Steelers one at running back. They're physical.
• 15:42
  Speaker 8: Naji Harris is more of a of a five and
• 15:44
  Speaker 8: eight yard guy that pushes the pile forward, who you.
• 15:47
  Speaker 9: Know makes guys miss.
• 15:48
  Speaker 8: Jalen Warren is more of the straight speed if you
• 15:50
  Speaker 8: make a one cut guy that can that can hurt
• 15:52
  Speaker 8: you if you give him a lane.
• 15:54
  Speaker 9: But the offensive line hasn't been great yet this year.
• 15:57
  Speaker 9: Broderick Jones, the guy they drafted in the first rounds.
• 15:59
  Speaker 8: He started against the raven was good, but when Dan
• 16:01
  Speaker 8: Moore Junior came back from his injury, he went back
• 16:03
  Speaker 8: to starting at left tackle and actually played well against
• 16:05
  Speaker 8: the Rams.
• 16:06
  Speaker 9: Mason Colett center.
• 16:07
  Speaker 8: He has been probably the weak leak of the offensive line,
• 16:09
  Speaker 8: but had his best game against the Rams, ironically when
• 16:12
  Speaker 8: he had Aaron Donald lining up across from Isaac Salemaldo
• 16:15
  Speaker 8: came in from the Eagles at left guard.
• 16:17
  Speaker 9: He's been huge. This group just needs to get on
• 16:19
  Speaker 9: the same foot, and that's where the Steelers want to be.
• 16:21
  Speaker 9: They want to be a balanced offense. They don't want
• 16:23
  Speaker 9: to be a pass happy unit. They want to be
• 16:25
  Speaker 9: able to run the ball.
• 16:25
  Speaker 8: Mike Collins said during the offseason to one of his draftees.
• 16:29
  Speaker 8: He said, we want we want to build a goon squad.
• 16:31
  Speaker 8: We want to be more physical than opponents. And that's
• 16:34
  Speaker 8: why Mike Tommins spoke so highly of Josh Allen, Javon Walker,
• 16:38
  Speaker 8: and that Jaguars defensive front, because he knows that's a
• 16:40
  Speaker 8: big challenge for his offense that's starting to figure out
• 16:43
  Speaker 8: how to.
• 16:43
  Speaker 9: Run the ball a little bit more consistently. But now
• 16:45
  Speaker 9: you're going up.
• 16:46
  Speaker 8: Against a bunch of big guys that aren't going to
• 16:47
  Speaker 8: make that easy. So look for the Steelers to try
• 16:50
  Speaker 8: to establish the run in this game, but not overly.
• 16:52
  Speaker 8: So they still want to run play acts and they
• 16:54
  Speaker 8: still want to give Kenny Picktt a chance to make plays.
• 16:56
  Speaker 9: But they want this to be a balanced attack on
• 16:59
  Speaker 9: the offense.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: All right, Chris, thank you so much for joining us.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: We'll see you on Sunday for the game.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Thanks.
• 17:06
  Speaker 9: I think you having me.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: All right, guys, we'll be right back. We're gonna do
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: he will, he won't. He might As we look at
• 17:11
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  Speaker 1: com slash Jacks. We are back here. We've been talking
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Steelers all morning and now we're gonna talk about the
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Jaguars players we think will have an impact in this
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: game on Sunday. So, Brian, who are you looking at
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: to kind of break out on someone?
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't he's gonna break out.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: It's Anton Harrison, the right tackle, and he will get
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: beat on Sunday because the Steelers are going to go
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: after the rookie right tackle. And you're talking about TJ. Watt,
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: who we have been featuring since the week began. So
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: he won't go let it bother him, and I think
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: he'll rebound and play well. He's been playing well the
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: last couple of weeks and he might be the real
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: bright spot on that offensive line right now because week
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: he keeps getting better.
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: I agree.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: I went with Calvin Ridley and I guess he will
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: be fine. And I guess when I hear the buzz
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: about a wide.
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: Receiver, oh, he's not getting catches. He's not getting this.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: Remember nineteen ninety nine, Brown, You've been here a minute.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: About halfway through that season, I get a call from
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: a sports editor.
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: I need a story on what's wrong with Jimmy Smith.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: Oh no, was that before we had the shifteen catch
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: game against the So I went to Jimmy and I said, Jimmy,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: you know I know Jimmy for about five years, and
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: I said, hey, my erer wants me to do this story.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: I've got no choice. When Tom tells you do something,
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: you gotta do it. When this guy tells me, okay,
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: we did it. He finished the season with sixteen hundred
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: yards receiving and one hundred and sixteen catches. Sometimes receivers
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: go through.
• 18:49
  Speaker 7: Lowles, is my point.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: It's not up to them when they get the ball,
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: and sometimes when the defense takes you away, you can't
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: get it. He won't be bothered by this buzz. I
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: don't get the eye idea every receiver wants the ball.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: But I don't get the idea that Calvin is overly
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: stressing about one or two games where he's not the
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: focal point in the offense and he might kind of breakout.
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: But you know this.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: Almost goes back to he will, and I know I'm
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: breaking the code here, but he's still going to be
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: a huge part of this offense. He might be one
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: of those guys who's key even when he's not getting
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: the ball. Talking to the receivers yesterday, the other receivers.
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: Not him.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: They need him on the field because he draws defenses.
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: They really need the whole group. But he's part of
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: a mosaic, if you will not necessarily. They are not
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: going to just feature Calvin Ridley in the offense. So
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: he's gonna have his moments, but he's not gonna be
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: every week the one hundred yard guy.
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: That's not the way the offense is gonna be set up.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: I remember the storylines about Jimmy that year, and there
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: was a huge Sunday night game against the Saints.
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: Yeen ninety it was that week. By the way, it
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: was twelve catch up and.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: Two hundred plus yards, and all of a sudden, the
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: rest of the year, he was the best receiver in
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: the AFC.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: All right, for mine, I picked Devon Hamilton because I
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: think he will play this week. We've seen him working back.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: He practiced in full last week. This week he is
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: practicing in full as well, and he has no medical
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: clearances to go. It's just whether you know, coaching and
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: him say they're ready to go. So I think he
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: will play. He might. What did I say? Why do
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I do this every week? He won't look rusty, is
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: what I meant to say, because he's been practicing for
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: so many weeks, and I do not think. And I
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: think he might also have an impact in the sense
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: that what Devon Hamilton brings to this defense by cogging
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: up the middle, can help the pass rush, it can
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: help coverage, and I think he's someone we forget about
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: a little bit because the defense has been doing so good.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: But the role that he plays is crucial for this
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: team as well.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: He'll make it easier on Trayvon to get some of
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: those sacks. He'll push the pocket.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: And force a quarterback to step slightly outside, and Trayvon
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: has been there. He's been on the outside and has
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: had his hands around the quarterback. My guess is wanting
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: to stay away from number forty one rebec it's gonna
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: drift into forty four.
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and he the pass rush as a whole. If
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: you listen to Josh Allen talk about it.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: He's always talking about pass rushing as a team, having
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: a team plan. Devon Hamilton at the end of last year.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: Think about Roy Robinson Harris, how good he was the
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: end of last year, Devon Hamilton was making a lot
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: of guys better. There's four or five guys they really
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: depend on to get to the quarterback. Devon Hamilton being
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: a note tackle. You don't think of that. One of
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: the reasons they signed him to the big deal in
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: the off season was he was showing he could impact
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: the pocket absolutely.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: So we'll be happy to have him back hopefully this Sunday.
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: Stay with us.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: We're gonna preview again Sunday's matchup and give you our
• 21:38
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• 21:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I don't think I need to kind
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: of speaks for itself, you know, It's just it's like
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: one of those things. If you find ways to win,
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: you get you get criticism, and you don't win games,
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: you get criticism. So it's nature of the business. Obviously,
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: We're used to that here, so it doesn't it doesn't
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: bug us. But I think it's just, you know, it's
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: a good reminder just to everyone that you know, we
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: use all this. It's a chip on our shoulder. We
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: use it as fuel. That's really all. It was, nothing,
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: nothing more to it. I obviously those people are doing
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: their jobs too at the same time, so you understand it.
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: But I think it's good to have a little emotion
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: and remember remember kind of things that people say, and
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: we don't forget it when when people are backtracking in
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: a few weeks or into the season, whatever it is.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: So that's all it was.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Seats.
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, everybody does a little bit, maybe some more than others,
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: you know, others more than me probably, but definitely I
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: think you use all that and that's part of getting
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: our edge back as a team. That's what we've done
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: the last few weeks, and keep doing it.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Trevor's keeping receipts, guys, he's listening. He's got his own
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: bolt and board material. I like to hear from Trevor
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: when he gets a little saucy, and he was on
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Twitter as well talking about you know, they're just going
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: to keep finding ways to win and let people analyze
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: the team the way they are thin.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: When he's a little spicy and he's still just relaxed, right,
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: I mean right, it's not actually the podium yeah for him, right,
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: he's what is it?
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: What does my kids call him.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: A chill even when he's fireing back.
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: Look, he knows he's good.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: He but I think he has a perspective from being
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: in the spotlight for so long about sort of what
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: it all is. Uh, what's good I think is he
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: he's maintained his confidence and I do think he has
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: perspective on what's important. His stats aren't off the charts.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: You can see why if people don't watch him, why
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: they make comments about him not being quote elite, because
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: his numbers aren't you know, forty touchdowns. But he's doing
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: what it takes to win. He's a quarterback of a
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: conference or of a division leading team, and I think
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: he knows that. I think he's one enough in his
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: life and he's he's got enough that he doesn't have
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: to prove himself.
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: He just has to win.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: No ego.
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: We love that, Yeah, I mean I think there's an
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: element there to.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: That with him.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. All Right, guys, what do we think about the Sunday,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: you think the win streak continues, or do we think
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a tough one.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: Well, I think it's gonna be a tough one. I
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: think they should win. I think they will win. And
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: it sounds like I'm talking about both sides of my mouth,
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: but I'm not. But I don't think. I mean, I
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: think it's gonna be tough because the Steelers are a
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: team that, especially at home, they are capable of winning weird.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: They've won sort of weird all season, meaning they create
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: points with their defense and they can get you if
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: you make a key mistake.
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: And the one thing that you.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: Worry about the Jaguars this year, they have put the
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: ball on the ground on offense. They have given teams opportunities.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: They can't do that this week.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: You can't have an eight consecutive third down conversion failure
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: rate like they did last week in New Orleans.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: You got to stay on the field.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: If the Steelers control the ball for thirty six minutes
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: like the Saints did, the Jaguars will not win the
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: bowl game. But if the Jaguars can stay on the
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: field and find some sort of rhythm, I think they've
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: got more offense than the Steelers do defense.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna ride the wave. I think we'll
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: go in to the break on a five game.
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: I think they win the game absolutely, all.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Right, We'll have you covered for a full coverage on
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: a Sunday and then we'll be back with a full
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: recap here on Jagsam on Monday morning. Enjoy the game.