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Christopher Smitherman -- 4/15/26 · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Think about KRCD talk station trying to make it a
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Speaker 1: happy Wednesday.
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Speaker 2: It became.
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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas happy to have friends in the right place.
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Speaker 1: Is that friend of mine? Christopher Smitheman joining the program
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Speaker 1: right now for Vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati,
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Speaker 1: the man behind the petition. Hopefully that'll write the ship
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Speaker 1: that is wrong in downtown Cincinnati. Of course, as I mentioned,
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Speaker 1: the last hour of the City of Cincinna hired yet
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Speaker 1: another employment law firm after Frost Brown Todd's multiple extended
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Speaker 1: investigation into the firing. Are the placing on administrative leave
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Speaker 1: of Police Chief Thiji. They came up with pretty much
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Speaker 1: a blank Thirty two people in the report say, ah,
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Speaker 1: we're not really happy with her, but they didn't have
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Speaker 1: anything that justified her being placed on administrative leaven of
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Speaker 1: certainly nothing in there to fire her. Enter law firm
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Speaker 1: number two, Jackson Lewis, p PC, which is apparent according
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Speaker 1: to cpo's reporting, they're going to be helping city Manager
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Speaker 1: Cheryl Lung's review of the Frost Brown report and any
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Speaker 1: resulting decisions regarding CD's employment status, which means I believe
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Speaker 1: the law firm has been retained to help share a
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Speaker 1: long stay out illegal troubles because she's going to have
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Speaker 1: to make a decision on DG's status. Enter Christopher Smitheman,
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Speaker 1: former vice mayor, with a proposed charter change which sounds
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Speaker 1: like a great idea. Christopher, welcome back, and God bless
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Speaker 1: you for coming on this morning to help me get through.
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Speaker 2: This brain frog, brain fog day that I'm dealing with. Sir,
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Speaker 2: good to have you back on.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, and O'Brien, I've I've been listening to your
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Speaker 3: show and you've done a great job laying it all out.
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Speaker 3: You know. The first you know, Signal ninety nine, I
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Speaker 3: thought did a great job. Yeah by it out. You know,
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Speaker 3: I very much appreciated it. And Jim Baker from Fox
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Speaker 3: nineteen both both are doing a great job. And you've
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Speaker 3: done a spectacular job. You know. The thing about this
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Speaker 3: that I think the public doesn't appreciate is the mayor
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Speaker 3: in all of this. And so you know what the
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Speaker 3: way things are working now is it's a hid in hand.
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Speaker 3: It's the mayor who you can't see, who is directing
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Speaker 3: the city manager to make these decisions. I want to
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Speaker 3: be clear, having been the vice mayor, there is no
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Speaker 3: way that the city manager is making these decisions without
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Speaker 3: briefing the mayor. And so what is really happening here
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Speaker 3: is if you have a weak city manager and you
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Speaker 3: have a mayor that's able to direct, you have this
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Speaker 3: power where the manager is making these decisions with outside
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Speaker 3: of the nine members of council, your board of trustee.
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Speaker 3: And so when you go and you ask the mayor
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Speaker 3: what's going on and who made this decision? As Americans,
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Speaker 3: if I didn't know anything about it, I mean, the
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Speaker 3: city manager is the one that make the decisions. You
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Speaker 3: then turn to the nine members of council and you say, hey,
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Speaker 3: Vice Mayor and all of the other eight of you,
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Speaker 3: you're the board of trustees, what's going on? And they go, well,
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Speaker 3: I don't know anything about it. I don't make that decision.
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Speaker 3: I'm as surprised as you are. What the petition does
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Speaker 3: is it brings accountability to those who are elected by
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Speaker 3: the people of Cincinnati, and it says, look, if the
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Speaker 3: city manager wants to terminate or hire our chief or
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Speaker 3: fire chief or a police chief, you are going to
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Speaker 3: ratify that by seven members of council. And by the way,
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Speaker 3: you can't fire the city manager by charter without seven
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Speaker 3: votes of city council. So the mayor would have to
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Speaker 3: present the manager to the council and that would be ratified.
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Speaker 3: But we don't do that for the police chief and
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Speaker 3: the fire chiefs. Now, the practical part of this is
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Speaker 3: what you've been talking about. We have two police chiefs
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Speaker 3: right now. We have an interim chief and we have
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Speaker 3: a chief one administrative league. So the city of Cincinnati
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Speaker 3: is paying, the tax payers are paying for two police
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Speaker 3: chiefs right now. This city manager has fired the fire
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Speaker 3: chief and for three years the fire chief has been
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Speaker 3: litigating and has been winning. And so ultimately what we're
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Speaker 3: going to see happening is the citizens of Cincinnati, the
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Speaker 3: tax payers who really have had no representation here because
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Speaker 3: a non elected person who has just been making these decisions. Ultimately,
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Speaker 3: you and I, those who pay taxes to the city,
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Speaker 3: are the people who are going to pay the bill.
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Speaker 3: It's not going to be the mayor, it's not going
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Speaker 3: to be the city manager, and it's not going to
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Speaker 3: be the members of council. It's going to be you
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Speaker 3: and I, out of our pocket that are dropping probably
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Speaker 3: three million to five billion for the for the for
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Speaker 3: Chief Washington and probably one to two million dollars for
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Speaker 3: chief CGI.
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Speaker 1: Well, while they stand why they stand behind you know,
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Speaker 1: the council members benefit from this process and the mayor
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Speaker 1: benefits from this process because both of them can say, hey,
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Speaker 1: my hands are clean.
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Speaker 2: Cheryl Long did this.
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Speaker 1: I didn't do it, leaving the tax or leaving the
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Speaker 1: voters with no recourse because of course, we don't vote
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Speaker 1: for city manager, do we, Christopher.
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Speaker 3: We don't. That's exactly right, Brian. And you know the
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Speaker 3: only person who probably doesn't get this right now is
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Speaker 3: when the music stops and I used to play that
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Speaker 3: in school, the person who's not going to have a
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Speaker 3: chair is going to be the city manager. And you
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Speaker 3: can see it. You can see how they're setting her
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Speaker 3: up or they're using her to execute on these things
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Speaker 3: while they're conscious pilot, they're washing their hands saying I
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Speaker 3: don't know anything about what's going on. Look, citizens of Cincinnati.
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Speaker 3: That is bad for us. That is bad government. And
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Speaker 3: what the petition does is the petition intervenes and changes
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Speaker 3: the charter just so slightly that simply says city council
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Speaker 3: has a role in this, and you have to get
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Speaker 3: a super majority to hire or fire a police chief.
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Speaker 3: Or a fire chief. Now, the frustrating part of this
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Speaker 3: to me is I wake up like you that the
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Speaker 3: city has decided they're going to start paying fifty thousand
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Speaker 3: dollars a month to now create another scapegoat with Chief
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Speaker 3: Fiji and bury her. What every professional person, no matter
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Speaker 3: who's listening to this, understands that you don't fire somebody
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Speaker 3: and then figure out why you fire them afterwards.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the biggest joke in the whole thing, Christopher.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they have yet to articulate a single reason
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Speaker 1: to a place to her administrative leave. They actually had
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Speaker 1: to hire a law firm to go back into a
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Speaker 1: retroactive look at her thirty plus year career to see
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Speaker 1: if there was something in there. She'd never had a
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Speaker 1: performance review where they sat her down and said, we've
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Speaker 1: got these problems identified to us. You know, you need
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Speaker 1: to change gears, you need to do something else. Her
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Speaker 1: record was stellar. I mean, you know, say, we what
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Speaker 1: about the GI. I'm sure she wasn't perfect, but her
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Speaker 1: career did not show that she was subject to disciplinary
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Speaker 1: action or you know, reviews or meetings or anything in
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Speaker 1: connection with her service. So it's just I mean that
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Speaker 1: this is happening is insane, you know. So you have
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Speaker 1: that original hiring of the law firm, the extension of
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Speaker 1: that law firm's contract is apparently it took them longer
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Speaker 1: than they thought to keep looking and looking and looking,
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Speaker 1: and now they're hiring a second law firm too. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. Help the city manager figure out what that
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Speaker 1: prior law firm's report said? What planet did we make
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Speaker 1: up on?
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Speaker 3: And you're not even hearing from any member of council
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Speaker 3: that says, hey, what are we doing? Why are we
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Speaker 3: spending fifty thousand dollars a month? Didn't we just tell
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Speaker 3: the public that we have a thirty one million dollar deficit?
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Speaker 3: What are what are we doing here? We're paying for
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Speaker 3: two two police chiefs. We now have had a second
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Speaker 3: legal firm intervene here, and you fired somebody and you
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Speaker 3: haven't You weren't even clear now when I say fire
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Speaker 3: to your public, to your listening audience. I understand that
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Speaker 3: Chief Fiji is on administrative lead. But let's be clear,
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Speaker 3: she's on administrative lead because she wouldn't surrender. If she
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Speaker 3: had said I accept the termination and I'm not gonna resign, right,
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Speaker 3: they wouldn't be paying her right now? What? What? What
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Speaker 3: the what? The mayor did not understand because he is
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Speaker 3: from Dayton, Ohio. Now I understand you're not from the
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Speaker 3: city of Cincinnati, but this guy is not really connected
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Speaker 3: to us. He's searching for his new job. This is
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Speaker 3: this is mayor, This is mayor pure vol He didn't
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Speaker 3: understand that this was a nevill. So he's like he
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Speaker 3: sees he doesn't understand. Man, this is a family with
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Speaker 3: almost two hundred years of service as a as an officer.
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Speaker 3: They're not gonna just roll over when you say, man,
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna just I'm just gonna I'm just gonna take
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Speaker 3: a nevill and throw them out of the into and
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Speaker 3: say you're doing a terrible job. And your point about
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Speaker 3: was she the greatest chief? Did she make mistakes? Look,
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Speaker 3: let me not talk about her. When I was the
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Speaker 3: vice mayor, when I served as a member of council,
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Speaker 3: I didn't always make the right call. I tried, I
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Speaker 3: did my best. I didn't always say the right thing.
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Speaker 3: We can always say we could do better. That has
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Speaker 3: nothing to do with the way they have treated Chief
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Speaker 3: Fiji after thirty five years of service. And that's the problem.
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Speaker 3: She has a tremendous law firm in the Finny law
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Speaker 3: firm representing her, and she's saying, I'm not going easy, Brian.
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to resign. I want my job back.
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Speaker 3: There's nothing in my file that says why you terminated me.
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Speaker 3: So really, we have two police chiefs and until they
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Speaker 3: write a check or repair her reputation, which they probably
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Speaker 3: can't do that, so they're going to have to write
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Speaker 3: a check. She's saying, I'm not going anywhere. The last
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Speaker 3: point I want to make why wasn't this a part
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Speaker 3: of the city manager's evaluation. They just gave her a
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Speaker 3: great evaluation. They said there's nothing that she can improve on.
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Speaker 3: And you and I are sitting here going in the
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Speaker 3: middle of this. You've got two police chiefs, you've got
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Speaker 3: a fire chief that's suing you, and you have listened
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Speaker 3: to this one. You have a citizen who was beat
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Speaker 3: up in downtown who at the end of the day
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Speaker 3: the court say I release you of all of this.
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Speaker 3: You're the lawyers, you know the legal term, and he
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Speaker 3: is about to hit the city and his lawyer with
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Speaker 3: probably the brigus lawsuit of them all in federal court
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Speaker 3: saying you violated my civil rights. So they're going to
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Speaker 3: be massive lawsuits against the City of Cincinnati and probably
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Speaker 3: the next thirty days. And they gave the city manager
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Speaker 3: a glowing evaluation, no problems, no room for improvement at all.
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Speaker 3: So let's not talk about Chief Dji to the public
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Speaker 3: of where we say she could have improved when we
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Speaker 3: have a city manager that clearly has made some very
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Speaker 3: big mistakes.
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Speaker 2: Okay, well, let's pause.
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Speaker 1: I want to bring it back because I want to
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Speaker 1: talk about your revisions to Issue five, the power to
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Speaker 1: hire fire sideline dismantle of the leadership of the police department.
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Speaker 1: I think you came up with a very sound solution
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Speaker 1: that well makes counsel well responsible, gives them some measure
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Speaker 1: of control over this, and thus gives the voters an
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Speaker 3: How is your break?
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Speaker 1: It was con Brian Thomas, the former Vice mayor of
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Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati, Christopher Smillman, and the man behind the
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Speaker 1: petition to amend the city charter to require city council
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Speaker 1: to get involved in hiring and firing decisions when it
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Speaker 1: comes to the chief of Police and the fire chief.
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Speaker 1: Of course, springing from all this nonsense was brought about
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Speaker 1: by the city manager placing Fiji on administratively with no
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Speaker 1: justifiable reason. A couple of law firms have been hired.
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Speaker 1: This process has gone out for a long time. Gonna
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Speaker 1: be what the anniversary of this will be in August? Christopher?
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Speaker 3: Is that?
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Speaker 2: Is that how long this thing's been dragging out?
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Speaker 3: I think so? Yeah, all right, so your a for
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Speaker 3: chief in for Chief Washington has been three years?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, okay, that's how bad it can get.
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Speaker 1: But this petition, and I guess the city since the
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Speaker 1: citizens will be able to vote on it, assuming you
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Speaker 1: get enough signatures. But I understand there's some uh pushback.
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Speaker 1: But the amendment require the Charter of Cincinnati to require
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Speaker 1: that the police chief and the police chief and the
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Speaker 1: fire chief be appointed and removed only by seven or
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Speaker 1: more votes of the City council members. There's also some
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Speaker 1: time limitations in there to the extended interim chief has
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Speaker 1: been appointed at caps it in sixty days. You can't
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Speaker 1: keep reappointing that same person over and over again. So
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Speaker 1: it seems like you have all the contingencies covered. And
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Speaker 1: I'll encourage my listeners to just go ahead and read
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Speaker 1: the whole petition. It's very simple to read and it
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Speaker 1: makes perfect sense. Christopher. Why would anyone push back against
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Speaker 1: this very logical and reasonable petition you're circulating. Is there
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Speaker 1: going to be a challenge to the petition itself, whether
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Speaker 1: in quarter or otherwise, I'm not quite sure the state
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Speaker 1: of issues right now, Christopher.
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Speaker 3: So for warn the mayor, it gives the mayor, which
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Speaker 3: we've spoken about, the ability to say I don't know
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Speaker 3: what's going on. Politicians love that. So the mayor wants
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Speaker 3: the power but doesn't want the people to see the hands.
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Speaker 3: So most people running for mayor or people who are
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Speaker 3: the mayor are probably not going to support it. The
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Speaker 3: City Council likes the way it is now because there's
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Speaker 3: no accountability. They can always call Brian Thomas and say, Brian,
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Speaker 3: I don't know anything about it. I'm learning about it
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Speaker 3: like you're learning about it as I turn on my TV.
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Speaker 3: So it takes them out of the process the elected
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Speaker 3: to the people are voting for, so there's no there's
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Speaker 3: no elected person who is clearly involved in any of
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Speaker 3: these decisions. When if you were to poll most citizens,
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Speaker 3: they would say, my safety is the number one like
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Speaker 3: police and buyers the number one reason. I think you're
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Speaker 3: down there to do something. And so that's those people.
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Speaker 3: But here's the other piece in the rubs. You also
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Speaker 3: could have people like an Irish Rollie who are administrative
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Speaker 3: contractors working in the manager's office and they have the
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Speaker 3: ear of the manager and they're able to influence the
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Speaker 3: process outside of city council and the mayor, which is
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Speaker 3: even more dangerous. Well did this so we have a situation.
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Speaker 1: Did the city manager hire Iris rolling under the six
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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty four three hundred dollars contract. Again, Iris
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Speaker 1: Rolly is an independent contractor. She is not accountable to
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Speaker 1: the voters in the City of Cincinnati. Okay, so we
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Speaker 1: have an unaccountable city manager.
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Speaker 3: She's even positioned herself Brian that she's not even accountable
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Speaker 3: to the city because she's a ten ninety nine. So
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Speaker 3: she says, anybody that I hire doesn't have to go
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Speaker 3: through any background checking. There's no connection between the employees
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Speaker 3: that she's hiring. That's why she was able to hire
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Speaker 3: her son and pay sixty dollars an hour. But this
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Speaker 3: person is working in the city manager's office or the
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Speaker 3: mayor's office and has the manager's ear able to influence
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Speaker 3: her outside of the nine members of council, and they're
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Speaker 3: sitting around saying, I don't know what's going on, but
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Speaker 3: it certainly looks like my speculation is Irish Rowley has
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Speaker 3: a tremendous amount of power with this manager. That's even
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Speaker 3: more troubling to me.
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Speaker 1: It is, And according to the signal ninety nine she
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Speaker 1: says good but good authority that iris Roli is lobbying
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Speaker 1: to keep the charter under its current In other words,
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Speaker 1: reject your petition calling city council members lobbying black passes.
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Speaker 1: I'm just reading what signal ninety nine rode attempting to
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Speaker 1: lobby the FOP Lodge sixty nine for support. That's a
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Speaker 1: bold move. But she is out actively trying to protect
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Speaker 1: I guess ultimately her own job.
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Speaker 3: Right Well, what she's protecting is her influence over the
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Speaker 3: hiring and firing of police and the fire chief. And
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Speaker 3: what it really spooks you to think to say, what
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Speaker 3: was she a part of this process? You know what's
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Speaker 3: going to be interesting is Chief if Chief Fiji's attorneys
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Speaker 3: have the ability to depose her, meaning if they are
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Speaker 3: I'm not the lawyer, if they're suspicious enough about the process. So,
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Speaker 3: for example, the citizen who ultimately was arrested because members
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Speaker 3: of council said we want to arrest a white person,
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Speaker 3: and a white person was arrested. But you and I
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Speaker 3: know that the investigators, those who the police officers who
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Speaker 3: did the investigation said nothing here. Ultimately, those investigators are
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Speaker 3: going to be deposed, oh yeah, somewhere along the line
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Speaker 3: and say hey, what did you come up with? And
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Speaker 3: they're going to say, listen, I didn't think anybody should
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Speaker 3: be arrested. That's why I didn't sign off on it. Well,
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Speaker 3: guess what happens. Who influenced you, who called you, who
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Speaker 3: told you to sign off on it? And I'm letting
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Speaker 3: everybody in the city understand that this could be a
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Speaker 3: FBI investigation. There could be criminal charges against those who
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Speaker 3: tried to influence this process and say you've got to
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Speaker 3: go down there and arrest the white person. It's very
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Speaker 3: similar to this. If there are depositions and we find
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Speaker 3: out that Irish Rowley was one of those people down
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Speaker 3: there influencing determination the hiring any of this related to
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Speaker 3: the fire and police chief. She has no authority to
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Speaker 3: be a part of the process. She's a contractor. And
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Speaker 3: what this petition does is it takes all of that
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Speaker 3: off the table and it puts it right in the
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Speaker 3: hand of the nine members of council who we elect
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Speaker 3: to say, you guys have to ratify this hire or
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Speaker 3: this termination, and then you the people, we can go
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Speaker 3: and ask them questions and say how are you voting?
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Speaker 3: Why are you voting? And the last point I'll make
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Speaker 3: is that if this process is working, you would know
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Speaker 3: why the police chief was being terminated prior to the
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Speaker 3: seven members of council voting. You wouldn't have a discussion
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Speaker 3: here like I'm firing you and now I'm hiring law firms.
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Speaker 3: It looks like to use her as an escapegoat to
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Speaker 3: determine why the city manager terminated it terminated it, meaning
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Speaker 3: if the city manager was functioning right now, Brian Thomas,
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Speaker 3: we could just interview the city manager and the city
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Speaker 3: manager say here are the issues that I had with
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Speaker 3: the police chief. But because there's nothing in her file
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Speaker 3: for thirty years, she has no reason. But if the
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Speaker 3: seven members of council. The non members of council were involved,
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Speaker 3: they would have been able to say, City manager, why
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Speaker 3: are you firing the police chief? I don't know, I
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Speaker 3: don't have anything. Well, I guess what. You can't fire her?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, under the current situation, that's exactly where
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Speaker 1: we are. Accept the council is not involved from the
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Speaker 1: process where we are all collectively and including I'm sure
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Speaker 1: the members of council still wondering why police chief three
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Speaker 1: g was based on administrative lead issue five. You know
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Speaker 1: this petition will be circulated. Is there anyone claiming that
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Speaker 1: it's deficient in any way, shape or form? Christopher, Are
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Speaker 1: they making arguments that the petition should not get certified
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Speaker 1: to be circulated among these residents?
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Speaker 3: You're going to fall out. Here's what the city is saying.
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Speaker 3: There's a form where our petition the language can't fit
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Speaker 3: on a line. Right, this is not an exaggeration, can't
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Speaker 3: fit on their internal form, and therefore we have to
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Speaker 3: figure out a way to get that information to fit
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Speaker 3: on their line or they're not going to release the
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Speaker 3: petition from the collective way. I will be having a
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Speaker 3: conversation today with my legal team yeah, three point thirty.
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Speaker 3: This is not an exaggeration. My legal team is leaning
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Speaker 3: in saying I think we're going to have to sue
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Speaker 3: the city to get them to release the petition. So
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Speaker 3: this is nothing about the language of the petition. This
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Speaker 3: is about their internal form, the form saying our words
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Speaker 3: can't fit on their line.
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Speaker 1: It reminds me of the old Twitter days. You're a captive,
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Speaker 1: just a certain number of characters, arbitrary, random, Absolutely, How
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Speaker 1: do we keep important petitions from getting circulated? Make the
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Speaker 1: form shorter and smaller of space. Christopher, you are welcome back.
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Speaker 1: Call me up your just get in touch with me
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Speaker 1: whenever you figure out what's going on with this thing,
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Speaker 1: because obviously this ain't going away. Man, God bless you, sir,
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