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Utah Jazz watching Denver? MI vs MI State, Utes vs AR, Shoheil shutdown pitching · DnA Sports Recap

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  SPEAKER_03: So let's go ahead and get into it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Let's go ahead and talk the first subject we want to talk about, AJ, which is something we teased last week.
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  SPEAKER_03: So if you were here last week, you kind of already know what we're gonna be talking about, or you read the thumbnail, one of the two.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um let's go ahead and either one really.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, so let's go ahead and start here.
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  SPEAKER_03: So uh there has been, let's start with the the qualifier, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: The qualifying statement, AJ.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: There has been no trade request made.
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  SPEAKER_03: In fact, it's been the quite the opposite, AJ.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: This player we're about to talk about has said on Serbian TV, living a uh scrimmage game there, uh, that he wishes to stay with his current team forever.
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  SPEAKER_03: He said the only reason why he hasn't signed a contract yet is simply because of money reasons.
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  SPEAKER_03: If he waits a little longer, he's gonna make more, right?
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_03: However, the Denver Nuggets may not have a choice in trading this player, and we're gonna get into that now.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_03: So ever since they won the title back in 2023, the Nuggets have been eliminated earlier and earlier each season uh in the postseason.
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  SPEAKER_03: And with the contracts, the Nuggets have dulled out.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, the books aren't looking great right now for them since they've closed, uh, since they've won the title.
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  SPEAKER_03: Aaron Gordon, Jamal Murray, uh Cameron Johnson, Christian Braun all got paid, right?
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And some are saying that uh, you know, Jokic isn't really happy um with simply just, you know, he's not really just waiting for a payday.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_03: He's actually sitting around waiting to see what the nuggets do uh to build a contender around him.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um so the aforementioned contracts, like I mentioned, it really makes it really hard for them to do so.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh we got players like Peyton, uh Peyton Watson, Michael Porter Jr., Tim Hardaway Jr., and KCP, all players that were either left for free agency, sign bigger contracts, or traded, um, and then also sign bigger paydays.
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  SPEAKER_03: So if the Joker looks around and sees that he does not have a shot to compete with the Denver Nuggets, he may want to get out of there.
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  SPEAKER_03: And AJ, I think the Jazz are in a unique position to make that happen.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, they absolutely are.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_01: And and realistically, for the Jazz to make kind of a huge swing and try to sign Nicole Jokic, there there's a couple factors we gotta discuss right away, right?
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_01: And the first one is he does not currently have a no trade clause within his current contract.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: So good thing, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because a lot of players in their second contracts that they sign do usually negotiate no trade clauses.
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  SPEAKER_01: So good start.
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  SPEAKER_01: He is currently under contract.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is a player option for the 27-28 season.
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  SPEAKER_01: But like you said, Jokic has said many times to I mean, local media, his his own national media that he would love to stay in Denver for his entire career.
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  SPEAKER_01: So yes, um as as a jazz fan, you can trade for him, but you're not gonna do that unless you are absolutely certain that he is going to be signing a long-term contract extension with you as the Jazz.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_01: So I mean, this this move just absolutely rocks the Western Conference, right?
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's and and the only way you really get this deal done is the Jazz have to move away from Laurie Markinen.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_01: And then you're also probably looking at four to five first round picks.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you know, you kind of start weighing that.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_01: That that is a that is the reason the Jazz acquired all the draft picks over the years that they have, right?
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that that's the whole reason.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_01: We got all these draft picks so that if we get an opportunity to player that is multiple MVP caliber, we've got the firepower and the assets to move and make a big deal like this.
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  SPEAKER_01: So um obviously Laurie is kind of the the the player that has to go, mostly because he as far as making the money work, he's the he's the player's contract that's got to go, right?
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_01: You're not moving J, you know, triple J on that contract.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_01: He does technically make more than Laurie does, I believe, last year.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_01: I think next year they're pretty similar.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um but and then and then those picks are what would actually get the compensation back to Denver, you know, for them to get back into the rebuilding process, you know, them to have a shot to start rebuilding a team.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, it's not as promising through the draft as it used to be with all the changes that the NBA, you know, made to the draft process.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_01: We did a video on that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh it'll be somewhere.
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  SPEAKER_01: Check the channel, it'll be on there somewhere.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um did we actually do a whole video on that?
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_03: We didn't.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_03: We did.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think we did.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, I mean, as far as the jazz having having Jokic, uh having a multiple-time MVP who can pass, shoot, rebound when he needs to, um, it would just move this team into immediate contention.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_01: So um, you know, pairing him up with Triple J, Keontae, Ace, Darren Peterson.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that is that is a crazy exciting thought.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_01: There's so much playmaking on the floor.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, it it really the moves with the moves the Nuggets are making, um, you know, like you mentioned, it's just it's something that it seems like they are almost ready to make a pivot from him at some point.
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  SPEAKER_03: It kind of feels like they're in a position now where they're trying to force him to ask for a trade.
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  SPEAKER_01: But they don't they don't the thing is, is they can't, because of the player that he has been for that team, he brought a championship to that team.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_01: He can't, yeah.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_01: You you as a Nuggets organization cannot say, hey, we're gonna move Jokic.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like, that's the stupidest thing ever, as a Nuggets fan.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_01: You wouldn't be able to do that.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_01: But if the team positions themselves where Jokic is like, okay, I've had enough, right?
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like, we've had talented players, you didn't want to pay them.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_01: Now you paid players that probably didn't need to be paid, and now they're on this team long term.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_01: Like, we know this team can't compete the way it is.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_01: What are you guys gonna do?
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_01: We do we have draft assets?
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_01: No, not really, right?
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe a couple here and there, but like you you're just rolling the dice on time this way.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_01: So because because Jokic and every other NBA player is not getting any younger, and and he's in his prime right now, you know.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't see Jokic isn't gonna be one of those players that plays 20 years, he's gonna play 14, 15 years, and he's gonna be dead.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_01: He wants to go watch horses.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's that's that's all this guy wants to do.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_03: You've seen how excited he got when his when his horse went up.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_01: Twice as excited as winning the NBA championship.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he he was ready to get out of there when they want to.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, I got a horse race on right now.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I gotta get going.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, man.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_03: I just the stars can align perfectly, and and you know, we're not the only ones talking about this.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_03: This isn't just us at the left field.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_03: There are other media outlets that are you know saying that this is possible that the jazz could pull this off, right?
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but in our and all what I want to say here on this one is that I think it not only is it absolutely possible, I think it depends on this depends on what the jazz want to do, man.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like if they do what I want them to do, which is win one first, then worry about building a long-term contender.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_01: And I totally agree with that, especially because I think I I love the idea of of winning a championship with Lari.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because he did stick through so many tough years.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, so many, it's been three years, but so many tough years, right?
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_01: As a jazz fan, it feels like ten years.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, it may have only been, you know, what 280 games or whatever, but it felt like eight million games of watching the jazz lose.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_03: And I just, you know, again, there's a reason why they didn't go out and get the Kessler replacement like like we thought they would.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're not saying we're just saying.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we want to hear from you folks.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_03: Let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below when it comes to this.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_03: Like I said, there's definitely draft capital for the Jazz to make that offer to the Denver Nuggets to simply say, hey, if you guys go into rebuild mode, you want to unload uh Jokic, we have the draft capital and we have the payroll to make it work if it's necessary.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, we want to hear from you folks.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_03: Let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we got some comments here from the chat.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_03: Here we got Shane Cheshire 5133 saying the front office is too soft to pull off a nugget scoop for the Joker.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_03: That's a it's it's a fair point.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it was the previous jazz uh front office editorship that did make all the trades with the nuggets to get um Donovan Mitchell, Rudy Gobert, Rudy Gobert.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_03: Not Paul Milsap, though, right?
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_01: I I think the only problem with with this front office is if it doesn't absolutely make sense for the jazz, Ainge isn't gonna do it.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_01: I don't see how it doesn't make sense.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_01: That's kind of my I know, but but you know what I mean?
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like it seems like every Ainge deal, it seems like he sort of robs every team.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_01: So every team's like hesitant because they're like, what is Ainge getting out of this?
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_01: Why like I see what it looks like at face value?
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's quite clear what Ainge is getting out of it.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I don't think anybody needs to read between the lines on that one.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_03: You know, you go from being a team that was in last place, second to last place, or whatever, how bad the record was.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_03: You know, it's already forgotten in my memory.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_03: I don't even care about it anymore.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_03: But it's not like you're killing them.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they they get a star player in Larry Markinen, you know.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if Larry Markon has to be in that deal.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_01: I I think salary-wise, he almost has to be.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_03: I think you can make the salary match work where you don't have to trade Larry, but you do have to trade either Larry or Triple J.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_03: One of the two.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_01: But triple J's only under contract for one more year.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_01: So that would that would be assuming that the deal happens next year, which that only works if Jokic opts into his player contract.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_03: Well, see, again, you're you're can again, we're focusing on two different things there.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_03: Like you were saying that the Jazz would only do the deal if he agrees to resign here.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_03: And I don't think that's necessarily the case.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think it's oh okay.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_01: You're saying the Jazz take him on a one-year rental deal.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, prove to him that they can compete here.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, get in the playoffs, get at least one.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, fair enough.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_03: I see what you're saying, yeah.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_03: And it's not like he's you know, he's playing in Denver, Colorado.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_03: You Salt Lake City, Utah's not that different.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_03: So it's like way prettier.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_03: So you can't even see the mountains in Denver, dude.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's the strangest thing I've ever seen.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it is kind of weird.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like, it makes no sense.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_01: People are like, oh, we're we live in the Rockies.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_01: Like, look at the mountains out in the distance.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, have you been to Salt Lake?
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, you can't miss the mountains in Salt Lake.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it almost gets a little disoriented when you can't see them.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it is.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_03: Got a couple jewels here from uh Shane Cheshire 5133.
• 12:16
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• 12:17
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• 12:18
  SPEAKER_01: I believe we have a thing here for that.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, we do, we do.
• 12:22
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• 12:22
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• 12:24
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• 12:25
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• 12:28
  SPEAKER_03: Just please let us know.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_03: That was like absolute cringe, but I I liked it.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_01: I liked it too.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we saw it before the show, and we're like, this is what we're doing.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this is what we're doing for super chats and stuff like that.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_03: Because I think it'd be fun.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, we want to hear from you folks.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_03: Let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_03: I know it's a hell merry pass.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_03: No, there's been nothing said about this yet, uh, as far as like either way, but you know, if they are going to trade um Jokic, Utah's probably gonna have one of the best offers they can get for I agree, I agree.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: All right that makes it worth talking about, man.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_01: Definitely does, definitely does.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_01: Killing myself with this.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: Got it.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_01: You good?
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I keep bumping it because when I go to move my arm, it's the different setup, man.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_01: We switched it.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_01: We switched it back to the old school, guys.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I had so much arm room before.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm so much more comfortable.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_03: Love this comment.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_03: Appreciate the applause.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_03: No tanking this year.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely not.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely not.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think the honestly, I don't think the Utah Jazz would survive another year of tanking.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_01: No, I don't think the Utah Jazz fan base will survive another year of tanking.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_03: Well, because it's not about the fan base, it's literally the team.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, I I I agree, but I'm also being a little facetious, right?
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_03: You can't have that might be a great subject for another video, but you can't have another losing season of jazz basketball when you have the mammoth making the playoffs, making it sound like the playoffs in the same city.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_01: But also the jazz don't own their draft pick this year.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_01: So it makes no sense to tank in a season where all it's going to do is give another team a high draft pick.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_03: And it doesn't really make sense to tank anymore.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_03: I think they did a pretty good job of flattening the odds there.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, I'm pretty sure we're not running into that anymore.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_03: I I think this is done.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_03: I think they're done with it.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_03: They wouldn't have made the moves they made uh if that was the case, I don't think.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_03: I think Triple J was sp specifically designed for this year, this season, not last season.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, that's why they played him in three games, and they're like, no, just go ahead and take it easier.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: Let's have a good hard, good, hard off season.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_01: We'll get some good practice in.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: And be ready to start in that 26 season.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_03: Nurkits, you gotta deviate them all, sit down for a season.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_03: We gotta fix that.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_01: I understand it's a two-week recovery time, but no, we're gonna need you out for about two months.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_03: Nasal soreness, I guess, is a real thing.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_03: Nasal soreness is real.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_03: Speaking of which, man, speaking of Nurkitsch, dude, we want to talk about this.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_03: This is a conversation we were talking having about uh uh, gosh, earlier we were talking about uh the MBA, and there's an article on MBA.com uh slash jazz slash news slash Utah Jazz slash blah blah blah.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_03: And they were talking about most some of the most intriguing lineup combinations, AJ.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_03: And what we want to do is kind of just give uh kind of a little quick preview and a quick uh walkthrough of a lineup that we're interested in seeing.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_03: Now, I don't know how geeked into the numbers you went on this one.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_01: Not super geeked.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_01: Mine was mine's very opinion.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, mine mine is very, I'm just like, ooh, I want to see what that looks like.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, yeah.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_03: So this isn't even the starting lineup, this is the bench lineup for me that I'm going with.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_03: All right, so I'm going first, right?
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yep, you are.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, perfect.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_03: So here's my lineup, AJ.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_03: Imagine this.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, picture this.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_03: Picturing Isaiah Collier, Josh Green, Ace Bailey, Bryce Ensibah, Yusuf Nurkic.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_01: So much playmaking.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I picture.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_01: So much playmaking.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_03: This game, this lineup is gonna be so much fun to watch.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_03: And then it's solely because of one play and one play only.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_03: The best, I think, I'm in my opinion, the best pick and roll big that the Jazz have is Yousuf Nurkic, right?
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_01: No doubt.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_03: The best crasher to the boards that we have as far as guards go, as far as drive, you know, just full head of steam, is Isaiah Collier.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_03: He will go into anybody's body, draw contact, and then you have nothing but shooters in all corners, plus Nurkic, who can knock down through uh a straightaway three.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_03: And you got you got Bryce Sensaba and Ace Bailey both on in the corner threes, ready to go.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_03: If we need a mid-range uh bailout, we have draw screen there or ace Bailey, so we can switch it up and have them do the the whole UCLA backcut thing.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, where they swap both ways, and then you have yeah, because realistically you just make a read coming off that screen.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_01: If they crash on you, you dish it out.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and if they sag off, you oh, I guess Collager, you don't want shooting that, but if they sag off, he yeah, well, he wouldn't have to like again the contact, it the the pick and roll play is not him pulling up and shooting a three, right?
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_03: He they would set the screen and he would go past the screen and drive in and collapse the defense because they're not going to treat him as a shooter, downhill screening, absolutely, yeah.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_03: So and then that without that somebody would collapse, and then you've got um you got Ace Bailey, Bryce Senseball on the corners, and you got Josh Green, the facilitator, the vet facilitator there to either work mid-range or do some kind of swap.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_03: I just there's so much movement on that play with Yurkic, if uh if they Nurkic, sorry, if they needed to do uh throw up back out for the top of the corner three.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_03: I just love it, dude.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_03: There's no there's no weak spot in that lineup.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_03: Offensively.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_01: That will be offensively a very, a very fun lineup to watch.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_01: You're absolutely right.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: I think the one that I liked the most that they put up there was uh they called it like the defensive stopper unit, right?
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_01: And the biggest question for the Jazz this whole season, or the soul-off season.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we've read what multiple articles on what can the what are the Jazz gonna do defensively?
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_01: They've been horrible, they've got to do something to shore up the defense, blah, blah, blah.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: Now tell me, you put out Darren Peterson, who is straight out of college, but understood to be a solid defensive player, Josh O'Kogee, Josh Green, three-time all NBA, two-time defensive player of the year, Darren Jackson Jr.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: He's only won one defensive player of the year.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_01: But three-time all NBA or on the defensive team, all def all defensive NBA, yeah.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: And then Youssef Nurkic.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_01: That is the defensive lineup that I bet we will see in more situations than anything else.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like the thing is you've got physical defensive players, you got shooting all around because Akogi and Green both shoot the three.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like you I mean, like you just mentioned, they shoot the three well.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: Darren Peterson, he can absolutely score from all three levels.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_01: Now you put Peterson into that same pick and roll you were saying with Nurkic.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: And if they do sag underneath, he can he can knock down the three all day.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_01: If you're gonna, if you're gonna take him and and go to the basket with him, he's got kicked out to both the Joshes, a Kogi Green, and Jaron Jackson Jr.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: So, and like you said, Nurkic can shoot it from the top of the three.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_01: So I I kind of picture like the old Quinn Snyder offense.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think Bowler called it the blender.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: Because at that point, you just you just sit there and kick the ball until somebody's open, right?
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_01: You've got so you've got three-point shooters all around you, and and really you don't need Nurk out on the three-point line if you don't have to, right?
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_01: Because all all the other four guys can shoot it at a very serviceable three-point percentage.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know, dude.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_01: I absolutely love the idea of of this defensive kind of stopping lineup that that I think will still be very effective generating offense.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: On that one, Josh Green at the three.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_03: See, I'm just I'm just thinking there would be somebody better.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_03: I would I'd rather have Ace at the three for a defensive lineup there.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_03: The problem is Ace is not as good of a defensive player as Josh Green is.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_01: I think he's more athletic defensively than Josh Green is.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_01: Athletic, fair enough, but he's not as good of a defensive player.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, Josh Green's a proven defensive player in the NBA, though.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: Ace is still Ace is still in his second year, right?
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_01: And I think Ace is a great player.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we just did a video.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_01: I think Ace can be a starter on this team this year, no doubt about it.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: But if you need a stop, if you need to lock down good NBA players, right?
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: There's some scary teams out there.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_01: But that's the lineup you go with, in my opinion.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_03: No, I like it.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_03: I like it.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_03: But how tall is Green?
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_03: Wouldn't he be undersized at a three at that point?
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_01: Six five, six, six, six, six, six.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_03: Card us in the comments, let us know if we're on that one.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, man.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_03: I I mean, I think what's I think it's quite obvious on who the starting lineup for this team is going to be.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's gonna be one or two things.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_03: You either got Jaron Jackson Jr.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_03: at the five, so you can showcase Ace and have him develop alongside the other part of our core, which is weird because we our core is not Laurie Mark around Laurie Market and Walker Kessler anymore.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_03: No, it's really weird to say that.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, neither one of those guys is really in it.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_03: It's now ace, DP, Keontae, and Key.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_03: Like that's that's the three.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_03: That's our core.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_03: It's really weird to say that, right?
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: No, that is that is the core though.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_03: So we got those three.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_03: And then two you're developing.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and then you've got who you're who else you're gonna throw in there, Triple J, Jurkic, or or Lari, and um triple J.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_03: Like you've got to decide which way you're gonna go there.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_03: One's very offensively heavy, one of them's more defensively heavy.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_03: But if you're gonna like the more and more I think about it, the more and more I see them starting Ace Bailey.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like I it just it makes more sense.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I I you especially if you have the faith that I think us as jazz fans have in him, right?
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like we saw him, we saw his work ethic last year, we saw the effort he put in to get better.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, he is a good mid-range shooter.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: He does add a different element um that's you know, some of the other players might not add as well because he does he he shoots a 15 to 18 foot jump shot really well, and that's really tough defending at six foot eight, six foot nine.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: So you you almost love to see Ace in there taking some of those shots that would be really tough to defend.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you hope his defense can get there.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's there it is.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_01: There it is.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but um, yeah, I don't know.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_01: I just I love it, right?
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like I I I love the idea of having Ace in there with those starting guys and Jaron Jackson Jr.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: and and I think it's great.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Calamario.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_03: Atari jumping in there, letting us know Josh Green is 6'6.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_03: Appreciate it.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_03: So that's that's about the size we need him to be.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's perfect.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, dude.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_01: Because I believe he has a pretty long wingspan.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_01: I think his wingspan is like seven foot.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_03: So Callumari, you're on the clock, dude.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_01: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure he's got a pretty long wingspan.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, dude.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_03: I just I I want to echo what we've got going on here with uh Car Wash channel.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_03: Um only a month to go until the season starts.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_03: First of all, hi, thank you for joining us live again, man.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_03: Appreciate it.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, thank you.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I'm ready to I'm ready to watch uh DP.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely, man.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_03: It's gonna be fun, man.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_03: Like, because gosh, it's just a different feeling when you know they're not trying to win the game.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_03: You know, the players on the court, you know they're trying to win.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_03: So what you're really looking for is growth, you know, on these players and these lineups, how these teams working together.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_03: But you know they're eventually gonna lose the game, which is really hard to watch the game when you know they're not gonna try.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_01: Also, that's okay to watch for 20 or 30 games, but 82 is too long to watch for growth.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right?
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like every other night you're watching a game where you're just like, man, we got a lot of growth last night.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_01: Like, no, no, we can't, we can't do that for 82 games.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah, it's very true, very, very true.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_03: It's gonna be fun to watch, but yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's like, yeah, dude, six, three, six, six.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_03: That's a good I like that lineup.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, good size.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_01: Great, and it's a great defensive stopping size, right?
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like, that's you got just good length.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, I just I love it, dude.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's such a strong lineup.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, one one thing I saw on another uh creator said that the Utah Jazz are going small ball without sacrificing size.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_03: They said with Walker Kessler being gone, they no longer have that traditional big that they had before.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_03: So what they're doing is they're going small ball with two seven footers.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_03: Because you have all the still the playmaking that uh small ball or death lineup that the Golden State Warriors used to have.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_03: You still have the playmaking ability, but those playmakers are both seven footers in Jaron Jackson Jr.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_03: and Laurie Marking.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_03: Your seven footers both can shoot it, both can pass, both can Jaron Jackson Jr.'s only six ten.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but he's got a seven-foot wings fed, hasn't he?
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_01: But he's not he's not technically a seven-footer, that's all I'm saying.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_01: You could just round up.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I mean, I guess you could argue semantics here, you know.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's just like but I see your point, and it and it's absolutely right.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_01: You you you are going small ball without sacrificing size, yeah.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, oh yeah.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_03: So dude, just so short.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_03: Don't even know why I bother setting it.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but yeah, anyway.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_03: So I just that's what I'm here for, dude.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_03: Just pick apart the pick apart the tiny details, you know.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_03: Actually, who needs in the comments when you're sitting right there?
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_03: Because we'll get it both ways, that's for sure.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, for sure.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_03: All right, we wanted to move on and speak one more subject on the Utah Jazz here, and uh that is who is Matt Merle?
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_03: So the Utah Jazz signed Matt Merle to a 10-day contract on August 31st and waived him September 2nd.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_03: So done with that.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_02: There we are.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so uh you don't really need to know who that guy was.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_03: He did play for the stars last year, played in 41 games uh with the stars last year and did okay.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_03: Uh nothing crazy, but yeah, we signed to a 10-day and released him three days later.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_01: So the but the reason they did sign him to the 10-day contract is because by signing him to an exhibit 10-day contract, it reserves his rights to the Salt Lake City Stars for next season.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_01: So that move is purely there just to make sure that he can play for the Stars.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_01: It does leave him open to sign another NBA contract if possible, right?
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_01: So he's still a free agent.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_01: He can be picked up by another NBA team, but if he's not signed by another NBA team, he is eligible to play for the Salt Lake Stars.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_01: They hold on to his minor uh his bird rights or whatever you'd call them.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, his G League bird rights.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Matt Merle, the hurl.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I like it.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_03: Boom.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_03: I like it.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_03: We ever see him in a jazz uniform.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna do a video on that for sure.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_03: That's awesome.
• 25:50
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• 26:56
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• 26:58
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• 27:00
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• 27:03
  SPEAKER_03: Uh we'll be getting into talking a little bit about Utah football here in a minute, but we need to talk a little bit about something else right now, AJ.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so I, you know, am I introducing this one or are you?
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_03: You are introduing it.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so I don't know how you feel about this one, man.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_03: Are you?
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think so.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_01: No, I think it is me.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think it is you.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, it is.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_01: All right, absolutely.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, we got to talk about this, right?
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: Get things started.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: We're talking college football.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_01: We got to talk about one of the most wild controversies in college football that we've seen in a pretty good hot minute here.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, because according to Western Michigan, their very own university president said the Western Michigan Broncos won that game against Michigan over the weekend.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um Western Michigan led 12-7 until Big Ten officials, Big Ten officials put one second back on the clock, giving Michigan quarterback Bryce Underwood the opportunity to throw a 47-yard touchdown to Utah transfer JJ Buchanan as time expired.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um the Mac has formally appealed to have Western Michigan recognized as the winner of this game.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, the NCAA has changed its replay timing protocol to prevent something like this from happening again in the future, but it does refuse to change the results of the game.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_01: So, did Western Michigan actually win this game?
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_03: So I don't know how you feel about this one, man.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_03: Um, first when I saw this, first of all, again, this speaks very highly to what we've talked about on this channel at nauseum about how pointless these first games are in college football.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_03: Because the Utes just gave it to Idaho, right?
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_03: Which we'll review later.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_03: BYU spanked their team, right?
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_03: Like they just Utah Tech, right, is who they played.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_03: You know, both of them just absolutely dump trucked.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_03: The only reason why we even know why this game exists is we all we both clicked off, right?
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_03: We were both seeing what happened after this.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_03: But in this case, here, what we're talking about, man, is I don't know how I feel about this one.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_03: I was first really on the whole conspiracy train with this one, right?
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_03: The narrative that the Big Ten didn't want one of their top programs, Natty Champs, from a few years ago.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_03: Um, getting embarrassed the first week out with their brand new head coach under the big headset, pen penning, t-shirt coming.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so yeah, I don't know, man.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_03: They were, you know, doesn't make sense.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, from a betting angle, could does that make sense for why they did this?
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_03: Not really, right?
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_03: Because they were 27.5 point favorite either way, Michigan over Michigan State.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_03: So it didn't matter.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_03: That that they you know, Michigan State covered, right?
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_03: So I don't know, man.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_03: The more that comes out, the ickier that's all feels, and it's only because of how the Big Ten responded.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_03: If they would have just came right out and said, hey, we have our own clock that we're reviewing.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_03: We don't know what NBC did, we don't know what's going on there, but you know, the clock uh hit, he did touch the ball before the clock expired, so there's one second on there.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_03: That's what we're going with.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_03: End of story.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_03: That's not what they did, AJ.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_03: The way they came out there first is, you know, you know, first they, you know, they put out that baby blue Canva written letter within the Stranger Things font, basically that contradict itself twice in the first two paragraphs, and then they showed a clock that's different on the referee screen that they didn't put out.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_03: It's only out there because one of the replay officials decided to show a fan on TikTok, said, Hey, this is the clock that we're seeing.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_03: Not official, none of that.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_03: Like the replay official saying, Oh, this is what we're seeing, and then the Big Ten puts out something different.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I don't know, man.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_03: I don't the more stuff that's come out.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_03: Did you see that tweet uh that um gosh, can't remember who what's his name, put out said, if there was anybody in the stands that could prove that there was a second left on the clock when he touched it, can you share it?
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_03: And did you see some of what they posted?
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so some of it's kind of grainy, but in the stadium, when they put post it, you can see that when the ball touches his hands, because they're doing it from the other end zone, right?
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_03: So both the clock and the player are both in the shot at the same time.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_03: His the ball is in his hands, and two frames go by before that thing hits zero.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_03: In the stadium.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_03: So what do I think happened?
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_03: I think NBC and Big Ten don't want to admit wrong on this one.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_03: They don't want to admit that they did something wrong, that they didn't have it linked up, but honestly, it's just as simple.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_03: In my opinion, it's something simple as what was on the broadcast was not what's on the stadium, which was not on the official clock, which was not on the game clock, because there's three separate clocks that are going on at any given time.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_03: Plus the one that the replay center is able to see, which is going to be the official clock, which are the big twelve Big Ten's clocks, right?
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_03: So there's all these different things.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_03: If NBC or the Big Ten came out and say, look, everything wasn't synced up, we just messed up, which you guys saw on the broadcast, is not what you saw on the field.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_03: Sorry about that, but there was an extra second, we would have been fine.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_03: But unfortunately, with this and with how they responded, made everything feel really, really icky and made it really feel like the bent Big Ten was trying to get away with something.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know what makes it even worse?
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_01: What's that?
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, if you watch this like the last five or six plays of this game, Bryce Underwood scrambles to one side of the field with eight seconds to go, and the Big Ten officials add one second as he scrambles out.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh, so there was not a second left on that clock, huh?
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_01: So they go, please reset the game clocks to nine seconds.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_01: When there was eight seconds.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_01: When there was eight seconds.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_01: So you're saying there's still there's still, I mean, the controversy is not just in the one play.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it it is multiple plays where it's like, how do they keep getting time added to this thing, dude?
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: And as a Michigan fan, you're like, whatever.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I they're I'm sure they're right.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: And and maybe, maybe it was this magical set of clocks that has never been discussed in any college football game ever before this.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_01: For the record, right?
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like there's never been a discussion that there's a different set of clocks for college football games.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's what you see on the broadcast.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_03: No, the broadcast knows differently, but we don't, yeah.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_03: So the broadcast has a camera pointed directly at the game clock.
• 33:05
  unknown: Yeah.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_03: Nobody able to walk through it, so that's what they are need to go off of.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_03: Can those be out of synced by like half a second?
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_03: That's possible.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_03: Fair enough.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_03: But still, like, and and that's another thing.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_03: Why are we down to the second?
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_03: Why don't we have a point?
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_03: Why don't we have a tenth or a hundredth of a second in this sport yet?
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_03: Like, why isn't that a thing yet?
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_01: Not a real thing, apparently.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_01: So my one of my big concerns about this is do you think if the roles were reversed and it was Western Michigan?
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_03: That's my notes right here.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_03: That's the end of my notes.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_03: I say, I guarantee you, if this was flipped the other way, this won't have happened.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: Not a chance.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_03: Not a chance.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_01: Not a chance the Big Ten officials replay that and let them throw it one more time.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_03: No, absolutely not.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_03: And that's where I think everything's game over.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_03: That's where I'm starting to.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm saying, AJ.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't even know about that extra play earlier.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_03: Like, and that's why everything starts to feel really icky for me.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_03: Like real icky.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_03: You know, it's not, it's and that that's the problem.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_03: It's not even the betting line.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_03: Like is in every in per in other sports, you know, and even in the uh CFP last year, we definitely saw like a whole bunch of like, oh, we think the we think there's some stuff going on here where the uh the betting houses are getting their way, right?
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_03: And we see that because they're again they're changing rules, like you how you when you can announce a player's hurt when you can't, right?
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_03: We talked all about this.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, this just it, but that's not what this is.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_03: This is something else, and it's really kind of icky, and I just don't like it.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_03: Now if this was let me ask you this question if this wasn't a big 10 team, this was a big 12 team, would this have happened?
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yes.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_03: See, I don't think it would have.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, no, I'm okay.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm sorry.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_01: You're you're asking if if it was a Big 12 team playing this team.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, if it was a big if it's a if this was a Big 12 team playing a Western Michigan or whoever.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_03: Middle Tennessee State or whatever, right?
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_03: Not happening.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this wouldn't happen.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_01: But I think this but they're not a national sweetheart that Michigan is.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_03: It's not the Big Ten and it's not the SEC.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_01: And it's not a team that's two years removed from winning a national title either.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I don't know, man.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_03: Way to start your tenure there, Witt.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_03: You know, having the refs bail you out uh when you were supposed to dominate.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_01: Bad look.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_01: Real bad look.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_01: Not good.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_01: You're supposed to you're supposed to stomp that team into the ground.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, not good.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_01: You're not supposed to be running with them and it takes the last play.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I but you see, I mean, all the AP voters saw it, right?
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like, A, it's questionable, and you know that this game's gonna be, even if they go undefeated the rest of the season, this game is gonna be looked at for the rest of the year.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like, A, did these guys really beat them?
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, yes, obviously the scorebook says, but you you played terrible in a game you were supposed to win by four scores or better.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this will affect, you know, you know, your ranking.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, for sure.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, they fell all the way out of the AP25 this year.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_01: Or this week.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that was interesting to see.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's definitely people say uh speaking, saying it with their chest that they are not happy with this.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we want to hear from you folks.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_03: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we've got a couple of comments here, let's get through it.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um, we've got peace.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_03: Him leaving the jazz.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay, that's awesome.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_03: Good to see you, man.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_03: Thanks again for joining us.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we've got uh Greg Hawkins, channel legend.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_03: Greg Hawkins chiming in here.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_03: Kyle got out coached.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, which is uh which is uh thing to say for sure.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_03: We've got uh Karen for Darren.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Michigan was outwitted.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, dude, that's so good.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_03: They absolutely were.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_03: That needs to be on a t-shirt, dude.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_03: That needs to be on a t-shirt.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_03: That's amazing.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we've got another one from Pacific Northwest.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_03: You say the roles, if the roles were reversed, the clock would have uh been restarted.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_03: Seven seconds, not nine.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_03: It would have gone the other way.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're like, yeah, he didn't quite touch down.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_01: That's gonna be seven seconds.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_01: Reset the clocks to seven seconds.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_03: So now I know I I wonder if um McKinley's in the chat there, because there is one more thing I want to talk about that's not youth related.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, but there was one scene, uh, one touchdown run by BYU against um Utah Tech that I couldn't help but notice something, the celebration of one of these players.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_03: And and you know, if he's in here or if anybody else saw it, let me know.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_03: Um wow.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_03: Hang on, we'll get into that.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_03: We gotta seems like we got something here.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_03: What do we got here?
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_01: Mulligans are now called Michigans.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_01: Sweet, that is excellent.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_03: I'm so using that next time I go out for sure.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_03: Michigan?
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_01: Michigan can do it, I can too.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_03: Why not?
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_03: You know, club length, you know?
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, can we add another second on the clock?
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_03: Club length?
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, um, but yeah, for sure, man.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_03: But I couldn't help but notice that there was a player on BYU, and his name escapes me.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_03: I was gonna take a note on it, but I just couldn't be bothered because again, we we're not a BYU channel.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_03: But there was a touchdown run by BYU player, and when he looked into the fans in the student section, he hit the Otani.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_03: He did one of these, and then to further it, AJ, he hit the hit flexor.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_03: The boom, the Dodger celebration when they get a hit.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_03: He hit it.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_03: He did both of those.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_02: It just gives me more reasons to be disappointed in all of them.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just saying, you know, I mean, if you're gonna emulate, you know, if you're gonna repeat, if you're gonna use uh celebration, you might as well use a celebration of a champion.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_01: Two time two-time, yeah.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm I'm I'm not even gonna say anything because yeah, I just gotta hear it for the next 45 minutes during the show.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_03: I will show it to you though.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I'll show you the clip.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I I can't be wrong on that.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_03: He did the thing, you know what I'm talking about?
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_03: Like when I was on the cologne thing where he hit that home run in the postseason, and then every time the Dodgers celebrate, they do that hip flexor check thing.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, thought that was interesting.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_03: We want to hear from you folks.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_03: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below when we when we talk about college football.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_03: Do you want us to break down uh like we've broken down the Big 12?
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_03: Do you want us to break down the SEC, the ACC, like we've done in the past?
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_03: We want to hear from you.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_03: Let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_03: All right, with all that said, AJ, let's go ahead and talk a little bit about the Utes.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_01: No, nope, we got one more.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's just college football.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, we do.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 38:58
  unknown: Yeah.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_01: So tone it down.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, so tone it down.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_03: Tone it down.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_03: Jeez.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_03: I thought that I was gonna be in the ute because it was in conference.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_03: I guess BYU was off of in conference, so that wouldn't have mattered.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_03: So forgive me.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_03: You're good.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_03: Forgive me.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_01: You're good.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, let's go ahead and talk about that.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so we've got um this is a good one, AJ.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_03: So this is the uh Arizona State Mercy game.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we want to hear from you folks, guys.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_03: Jump in on this one because this is gonna be an interesting topic.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_03: We want to hear you guys about, hear your guys' thoughts on.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_03: So the fourth quarter was shortened in the Arizona State blowout against Morgan State.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, and and basically what happens in detail was the Arizona State's 10-minute uh fourth quarter uh was basically kind of like a mercy rule.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_03: So let me kind of explain how that works, right?
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_03: So what happened was Arizona was leading Morgan State 70 to 7 at the end of the third quarter.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_03: 70 to 7, AJ.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_03: That's a bigger whooping than either one of our teams did there.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, our teams.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not a BYU fan.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_03: Why did I say that?
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_03: Either one of our in-state teams.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_03: Let me just be clear on that.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, was 70 to 7.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, the request came from uh Morgan State head coach uh Damon Wilson.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_03: He asked uh to cut the final period short.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the agreement, Arizona State head coach uh Kenny Dillingham agreed, and the referees approved.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_03: Uh 10-minute fourth quarter instead of the standard 15 minutes.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_03: Um now the rules, how this works out.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_03: So no official mercy rule exists in college sports right now, AJ, at least in college football, but college football does not have an automatic scoring-based mercy rule, is basically the kind of the point.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_03: They do have this NCAA rule, which is a 3-2-2-A.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_03: The rule allows opposing head coaches and referees to mutually agree to a shorten any remaining playtime.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_03: So, AJ, I've made my stance on this kind of stuff perfectly clear about these earlier season games.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_03: And what I saw on this, I'm just like thinking, you know, should we have an offer an official mercy rule in college football?
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, the the thing is is this rule should probably be used way more often than it actually does.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I mean, it's actually probably a good thing that they like for this to actually be highlighted in a game that happened against a P4 team and you know an FCS school, like this is this is really important, and and I hope that in the future weeks coaches can agree to this more because A, nobody's there in the fourth quarter.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like I was at the youths game and it was great.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_01: Up to halftime, there was a ton of people there.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_01: But when you're when you're leading by 30, 40 points at half, like nobody wants to stay and watch the rest of this, right?
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_01: So don't don't leave those kids out on the field and let them go through five more minutes or however many more minutes needs to be gone through.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_01: Because the fact is, is the NCAA power force scheduling system is absolutely broken.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_01: The way that they the way that they do, and every conference does it, right?
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_01: That's I understand that it's not just the SEC, it's not the Big Ten.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody does it.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_01: They schedule wins out of their first three or four weeks, and the these they use these games essentially as warm-up games for every single I mean, and every every power four does it.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_01: But when you're playing FCS schools that only hold 63 scholarship players, and then you run the score up so that uh you know your your FBS, your power four second and third string players get some playing time, nobody wants to watch this, dude.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um Power 4 schools should have to pay Power 4 schools.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_01: That's all there is to it.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_01: Now, could you imagine if some of these non-conference games were only P4 games?
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like, could you imagine the be how awesome the beginning of college football season would actually be if you went out there and you've got two talented teams on the field to start every single season?
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we got some of that already with US uh USC uh sorry, LSU versus Clemson, right?
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_03: They played week one.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_03: But I mean that was still a pretty lopsided win.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but at least there was two, they're at least both, you know, and there's a couple of them, absolutely, and there's a couple of them, but imagine if every one of these games was this way.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, as it should be.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I yeah, I've made my point perfectly clear on this.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_03: I think this this whole packing in wins and not being competitive until conference play starts, I think it's absolutely ridiculous.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it makes no sense to me.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_03: And not only should this rule be used more often, AJ, I say it should be the exact opposite.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_03: I think it should be a forced mercy rule.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_03: Where you if you are running out the score against a team like this, again, when you're then, you know, if you're up by more than I don't know, what do you say, 30 points at halftime?
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_03: Like you agree to shorten the fourth quarter down to 10 minutes.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_01: If it's 30 to zero at halftime, like there's no like they're not coming back from this, right?
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_01: If it's if it's two P4 schools, hey, that's a different story.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like the momentum changes, like there's there's a lot of things that can happen.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_01: Players get hot, you know, some turnovers happen.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: But if you're shutting a team out like this, there's no chance they're coming back.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_01: Like, and and what happens is all of these P4 schools use it, artily artificially inflate every single one of their statistics going into conference play.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_01: And you get all these players that are like, oh man, this guy looks so good through the first three games.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_01: What happened to him when conference play started?
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_01: Well, let me tell you what happened.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_01: He actually has to play players now.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like that of course he didn't, of course he doesn't know what he's doing.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_01: Not going after literacy art majors now.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_01: And don't get me wrong, Utah does it.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like every school does it, but everybody does it.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_03: And I love the fact that they people at these games are still sold out.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_03: You know, that people are still going to the games and everything.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_03: But that's honestly the only way that's going to change is people stop going to these.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_03: Which I when you only got like, you know, less than 20 games a season, you're not going to do that.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_03: You're not going to not go.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you have to go.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, I don't know, man.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_03: We want to hear from you folks.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_03: Let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_03: We got a comment here from uh Karen for Darren.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Mercy World might encourage the winning team to go out and get backups and thirds uh strings sooner.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely, man.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_03: Like it's a great point.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_03: And then you got because the worst thing you want to do is have some someone go out there and get hurt, right?
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_03: Like yeah.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_03: Which is something I want to talk about a little bit more when we talk yet, uh, because I there's I gotta gripe against that too.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_03: But there's just I don't know, man.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_03: I I think having a built-in mercy rule to not only protect the players, you know, but also in the same like you said, and if we're it's not like we're saying a three inning, uh sorry, three inning, three-quarter game here, right?
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_03: You know, three periods.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_03: We're not going to hockey or anything.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, if we just shorten it down a little bit, you know, I don't think there's anything wrong with that, you know.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_03: We want to hear from you.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_03: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, totally turned off uh the last half of the BYU game.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_03: Um, they were up like 42, started watching the Michigan, exactly what we talked about, Michigan game, and tuned in on one of those.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um I can't see the rest of that, AJ.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_01: Tuned that one off when I thought that was over, laughing at Wit.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, exactly.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_01: Then I woke up and found out that the big 10 refs found a way to bail them out.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_01: To bail them out, yeah.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely, man.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_03: I was surprised at how many people, how many fans, you fans are not were not fans of Kyle Whittingham.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, I think there's some bitterness, you know, being uh I I think there was some frustration frustr frustration as a youths fan because we saw the same thing happen over and over.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_01: We saw the same injuries happen, you know.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_01: We talked about that last week with you know pushing players back to the street.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_03: Sorry, nobody saw it unless you were joined us live.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but thanks, Darren.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um but you know, we we we talked.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, I couldn't let that one go, dude.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks, dude.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_03: Um I don't remember what I was saying, anyways.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, with the injuries, yeah.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_03: I did I get it.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_03: Like the frustration with Kyle Whittingham is twofold.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_03: One, the injuries.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_03: So he keeps seeing that repeatedly happen.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_03: Now we kind of know why, right?
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_03: Based off of the conversations we had last week, which we'll eventually get up when we can be bothered to do it.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_03: The the other part of it is is that like he said, you know, we announced a coaching wedding and he said, I'll play till I'm 60 or whatever the year was.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I'll you know, but then he bombed that year, the team bombed that year.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_03: He's like, Oh, I can't go on that note, and then like it's okay.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_03: Well, one more year, we'll get a wing season.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_03: Then he comes back and says, Yeah, I'm not ready, willing to go down yet.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_03: And sometimes you're like, Hey, dude, you you know, you know what, or get off the pot, dude.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah, at some point you just gotta be.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_03: And I think the people who were funding the school, the boosters were just like, you know, we're done.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, I think that's exactly what happened.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, because they I mean they told Witt when he left, like, hey, you you can stick around and and be this, you know, scapegoat scapegoat, essentially, for everything that happens, but we really need Morgan Scaly to run this football team next year.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's great, it's good times.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we got comments here from uh Greg Hawkins.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_03: Wittningham might uh be the be on the hot seat if he can't get right right the ship quickly.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely, man.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_03: Like I'm gonna agree with you there.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_03: Like it's way too early to already have people questioning your ability to coach in the Big Ten.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, so why I was like, can you read that?
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, why would we have any animosity towards Witt?
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's not like he picked off several vet players and coaches on his way out the door.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't know why would anybody be upset about that.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_01: Makes no sense.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the new offensive coordinator that we just signed that you know brought his quarterback here and you know, JJ Buchanan and Yeah, I mean, all these guys that just came to Utah and have a have a college career because of the University of Utah.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yes.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_03: What are the odds, huh?
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, since we're already talking about it, let's talk some youth, huh?
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_03: Let's do it.
• 48:47
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• 48:52
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• 48:56
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• 48:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_03: All right, man.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_03: Before we get into it, let's go ahead and talk a little bit about uh let's recap first the Idaho game um uh and kind of get into that game a little bit here.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_03: Do you want to break down the game at all?
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_03: No, I think we just kind of jump into what we talked about.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_01: We'll just talk about a couple things that we saw.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_01: Sounds good.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_01: Sounds good.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so one thing I wanted to talk about, AJ and I want to get your your uh understanding on this one because it's something I saw kind of really quickly that happened in that game.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_03: First of all, how was it being back in uh back up on the hill, back at the Huntsman Center, watching some watching your boys play on the Hill of Man?
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_03: How was that?
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it was amazing.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the environment in that place was really good.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_01: Uh they it the stadium filled out relatively, I think it was faster than I kind of imagined.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_01: That first game, it's tough.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, when you're out in the tailgate lot, like you notice players, you know, a lot of people don't go down until it's right about kickoff time, trying to avoid lines and stuff.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_01: But the stadium was, I mean, I would say 75% full right at kickoff.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then you know, kind of trickled in the rest of the way.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_01: But I mean, the environment was great.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_01: They've done a lot of new stuff inside the um inside the stadium.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_01: So they've got like a an on-field kind of uh narrator that's there through, you know, all the breaks and stuff like that.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_01: So um environment was good.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, my my seats are cool because you can see some of the, you know, Zach Moss was there the whole time because he's their new on-field announcer, um, like Sly was last year.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_01: And it was it was really good.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_01: They they've done a lot of really cool stuff that you know just kind of makes the environment a little bit better.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely, man.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was a great game to a great game to watch.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_03: Great to, you know, again, not exactly great football, but it was just great to watch the team out there and and absolutely dub truck uh Idaho.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_03: So shout out to the family up north.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, there is something I there is a vein, uh, there is something that uh vexes me a little bit about this, AJ.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_03: And I want to talk about that.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_03: So the first one I'll talk about, I want to get your feedback on, then we'll get into second.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, first is what what is up with that settling for a field goal in the second drive?
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_03: You were first in goal, and you don't punch in against Idaho.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_03: All of a sudden they just became like, you know, the best defensive front, and you couldn't punch it through when you were first in 10 at the goal line.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_03: Like you're first you're first in goal, dude.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_03: This is not uh this is why that's just my question, AJ.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_03: Why?
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_03: Why did they just settle for a field goal there?
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like I don't My guess would be you don't want your kicker taking his very first field goal attempt versus an SEC team next week or this week.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, come on now.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_03: You don't think another option is gonna come up in the rest of the game?
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe not.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it didn't.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_01: They didn't need it.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he kicked some extra points, but they didn't need him for a field goal the rest of the game.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, hey, here we go.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_01: Let's just get three while we got maybe they learned their lesson from the BYU game.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_01: If you get close enough, just take three points when you get it.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_01: Against Idaho, though?
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't matter.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_01: At this point, the Ute's gotta win.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, this is a Chris Sale moment all over again.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't matter.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_03: Let's not look the obvious thing in the face.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_03: Let's let's uh try and justify it here.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_03: I actually do.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I I think it is kind of common.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_01: That was but when we talked about it yesterday, I was just like, I know exactly where I'm going with this.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_01: So I just had to stick on that one for a minute.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're absolutely right though.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_01: The the Uts are were 100% able to overpower this team.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and they absolutely needed to.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't think that the field goal hurt them in any way, shape, or form, because obviously they go on to score seven more touchdowns, but um it was it's not the look you wanted the second drive.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_01: Not a look, not on the second, not on the second drive.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, because they just got a turnover, yeah, driving down the field and and you know, just got hung up a little bit.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_01: And uh yeah, we're worth the defense, man.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_01: Punch it in.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like I just just go.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_01: There's so many of that stuff that I'm like, okay.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_01: Worst case scenario, give it back to them on the on the three-yard line and get a safety.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_01: That looks better than a three-point field goal from 17 out.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_03: I just it just wasn't a good look on it for a second drive after your defense did the job and got the ball back.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_01: And did a really good job, too.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I just don't think it set the best precedence that you want going into this year.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I just thought that was kind of interesting.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um, we got here.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_03: See, Pacific Pacific Northwest U.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_03: The first U field goal was a mercy roll before it was cool.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_03: Like, oh, okay.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_01: Could you imagine if they would have just kicked field goals on every one of them?
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like as soon as they get like third down, they're just like, no, we're gonna we're gonna go ahead and just kick a field goal.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna go ahead and kick a field goal.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, once we're gonna set the NCAA record for field goals in a game.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, they totally need to do that.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_03: Like, we need to like that would make these games fun.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_03: Like just some.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_03: This quarter.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they all vote, gets on the screen, everybody punches in the thing.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_03: You can only score by field goal.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_01: Only field goal, yeah.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_01: Or only running plays or only passing plays.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_01: You you can only pass the ball this whole drive.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you let the fans have a vote.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_01: I just think it's I think it's better.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_03: I like it.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_01: I agree with that actually.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_01: All right, that would make these games a lot more fun to watch.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's I'm just telling you.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_03: So you wanted to talk about uh I wanted to talk about Bird.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just that was he was kind of the the highlight for this.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, Devin Dampier had a great game, and he's he's a fantastic quarterback, but I think everybody is just as excited about Bird Ficklin as I am, and he just he kind of continues to impress, right?
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_01: He made throws, he ran the ball.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_01: Hell he, I mean, he even lined up at the slot receiver, wide receiver.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_01: He lined up as a running back, he was all over the field on offense, and then you know, obviously Devin Dampier comes off after the halfway through the second quarter, and he just managed to take the team up and down the field.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we've got to watch him play some quarterback, you know.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_01: He made that highlight real throw where he's running to his right as a left-handed quarterback and throws it across his body, and he he just he's so much fun, and I think the part that I loved about the offense as a whole was this was so unKyle Whittingham of this team.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because we showed a bunch of formations, we showed different player combinations, you got absolutely nothing in large quantities.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_01: Kyle Whittingham did the exact opposite in all these games, right?
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's like line up the same formations every single time.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_01: We're not gonna give many tape on anything we're gonna do.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_01: It was like they went the exact opposite.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like, we're just gonna show everything, try to pick apart what you can see.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_03: Nice, yeah.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_03: See, and that's kind of where I'm thinking at.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_03: Like you want your QB1 and QB two on the field at the same time.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_03: Um no, not essentially, but but you want you Okay, so why while entertaining as that was, okay, don't get me wrong, it was very entertaining.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_03: This team doesn't exactly have the best track record with keeping quarterbacks healthy.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_03: So I don't know why you would risk putting both of your quarterbacks on the field at the same time in a gimme game.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like I aren't aren't you a little bit concerned about that?
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_01: I I am in a gimme game, absolutely.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_01: I think in any other game, like this this game this week against Arkansas, right?
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_01: SEC opponent, you have to do what it takes to win because this is the earliest, the first statement game you're gonna get a chance, right?
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_01: Arkansas's not supposed to be great, no, but the youths have to beat this team, and they got to beat them handily because on their resume, when the college football playoff team is looking on it, you know, down the road here, it's gonna show a win against an SEC team, and they've got to take care of business.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_01: So in this game, absolutely.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_01: I love the idea of having Byrd and Dampier out there on the field together, confuse defenses, show them what you got.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_01: I see where you're at though.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't love the idea of him playing as much as he did.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_01: I think they should have pulled Bird way before they did.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_01: Put Brandon Rose out there.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like uh A, I didn't know Brandon Rose was back.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know how I missed that headline ever.
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, that was really weird.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_01: When I was I was at the I was at the tailgate, and my buddy Josh was like, I was like, yeah, let's get QB3 out there, you know, should be out there by the by the third quarter.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_01: And he's just like Brandon Rose, and I was just like, what are you talking about?
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, Yeah, Brandon Rose is back.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_01: You didn't see that?
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, I did not.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_01: For shame.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_01: You run a Utah football channel.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_01: That's actually exactly what he told me.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_01: He was like, Mr.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_01: Podcast doesn't know Brandon Rose is back, and I'm like, missed it, apparently.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_01: Fair dig.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, fair shame.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_01: Fair enough.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_01: Nice job, Josh.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry, Josh.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, my bad.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, and again, I think you kind of already answered it in your statement there.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_03: This is not Winningham's offense, right?
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_03: Like, we may not have as many quarterback injuries simply because if they do get hurt, they may not be rushed back earlier.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_03: You know, it's a thing, dude.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_03: It's a thing.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_03: It's a thing.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_03: Again, you guys don't know that because you didn't see it.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_03: But uh, we got another comment here from Karen for Darren uh saying, You guys, uh yeah, more creative offense is why Utah doesn't miss Kyle one wit.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_03: Love it, dude.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_03: Keep them coming, dude.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_03: Keep them coming.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_03: It's a lot of fun.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_03: All right, man.
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_03: Let's go ahead and preview uh Utes versus Arkansas, shall we?
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so uh I watched I watched this Arkansas team, right?
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_01: And and I was a little bit concerned, but I mean I saw the score, and it wasn't it wasn't a blowout score in their game, right?
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_01: They beat the North Alabama Lions 31 to 14.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_01: Now, to to give a little background on the North Alabama Lions, um, they went three, they won three games last year in their own division.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_03: Sweet.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_01: So so they're not a good team in a bad division.
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and Arkansas, they got past them, right?
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_01: And 31-14 is not, it's not like they they didn't bust roll them by any means, but Arkansas plays in the SEC.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_01: This is where the Mercy rule should have applied, right?
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like when you're playing a team like the North Alabama Lions, that no one's heard of, that's not good in their own conference.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like, this isn't like playing North Dakota State, right?
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_01: Like, North Dakota State is an FCS team that is always good.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_01: They I mean they compete for FCS championships all the time.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_01: Like, there's a couple of those teams that are are good solid.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_01: Tarleton State's another one.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_01: FCS, they're on the on the brink of winning these games.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_01: That's not one of these teams.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_01: And you're Arkansas from the SEC.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_01: This game should have been a blowout.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_01: So I I watching this game, the offensive line really, really struggled to protect the quarterback.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um and and they they struggled against guys that were six, seven inches shorter than them.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I mean, clearly a a huge difference in talent on the field against these two teams.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um that that tells me that they could have a very different test coming to the University of Utah this year.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we obviously did not struggle against our defensive opponent last year or last week.
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and and Utah is known to be a very physical team.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um I will be very surprised if if uh if Utah doesn't dominate in the in the trenches this week.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, like like we mentioned, we did a we did a a previous kind of breakdown on the on this Arkansas game.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because this was the first one we thought was gonna be interesting.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this was the first one we thought, and then it's kind of funny because as we reviewed it, we're like, oh no, like actually it's Arkansas and they're not supposed to be that great.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_01: Arkansas didn't have a great season last year, ended up getting rid of their head coach.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_01: Uh they hired the head coach from Memphis.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_01: There's something like 30 players that come over in the transfer portal with this Memphis head coach.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they obviously Arkansas had a bunch of players jump into the transfer portal, all of their really talented four or five-star guys transferred out to other schools after they lost their head coach.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um so this is the team that's that's mostly comprised of Memphis last year, playing at a much higher level.
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_01: And and for me, it's a little bit concerning because they struggled against an FCS school.
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_01: I don't call 31-14 not struggling.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_01: And if and if you think that it's different, feel free to speak out and I'll tell you how dumb you are.
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, because that's just not the case.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um I they didn't take very good care of the football on the offensive side of the ball.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, they had a few turnovers against, again, a team that's much lower in talent-wise than you.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um and and and then it was kind of funny because today as I'm scrolling through Instagram, I'm like, oh man, look at this.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_01: There's some clips from a YouTuber, um, a YouTube channel called Fourth and Fifth.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_01: And uh Fourth and Five, sorry, who covers Razorbacks football.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_01: And he goes on to talk about how he is not worried about the University of Utah.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I just I couldn't help but laugh, man.
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't be worried either.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm just gonna chalk up the L and move on and go move on to and he goes on to say about how the stadium only holds 52,000 people, which isn't a big deal, it's not gonna affect Arkansas.
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_03: They play in SEC stadiums, and so yeah, because that's why the crowd is gonna be the reason why you lose the game.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh, I just I mean, he was just like, this defense didn't look great.
• 1:02:02
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I I I just don't think this team should be worried about Utah.
• 1:02:05
  SPEAKER_01: So, all my Utah fans that in anybody's watching this game.
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_01: He probably just stopped watching the Ute game after the second drive, probably you didn't have to do that against the Arkansas game at least.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_01: You could watch the whole ball game, man.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_01: It was close enough.
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_01: Two scores.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_01: But I just want to say to everybody, let's just make sure that when we go out to this Arkansas game this weekend, make sure we let the SEC know why Rice Eccles is one of the toughest places to play in all of college football.
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
• 1:02:32
  SPEAKER_03: Let's see it.
• 1:02:33
  SPEAKER_03: Let's see it.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_03: So, yeah, man.
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so when it comes to this team, man, um yeah, again, we did cover this earlier.
• 1:02:38
  SPEAKER_03: Uh appreciate everybody who watched that video on the channel.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um, we'll link it somewhere if we can remember to do it, where we previewed this game already.
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_03: So again, this was supposed to be short preview because we already did it.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, AJ wanted to chat out a little bit about it for I just it's like I kept finding stuff where I was just like, no, you're good, dude.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta talk about this.
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_03: Let it ride, man.
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_03: Let it eat, dude.
• 1:02:58
  SPEAKER_03: Uh but yeah.
• 1:02:58
  SPEAKER_03: So anyway, on the defensive side, man, the Razorbacks uh did uh bring in uh Roberts, uh Ron Roberts as their defensive coordinator, um, you know, who is uh uses complets uh complex blitz packages uh where uh it isn't obvious where the attack is going to be coming from.
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_03: Um so week one in week one they did force negative yardage and had three sacks.
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so linebackers Ben uh Bogle and Phoenix Jackson uh might um you know be highly highly disruptive on that side and cause a little bit of chaos.
• 1:03:30
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so that might be a little bit of an issue for uh the Utes there on pressure assignments there.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_03: So um that's really all I can see on the on the defensive side, things that are gonna stand out for us against Arkansas.
• 1:03:41
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so be ready for those blitzes to come and and you know see how they react early.
• 1:03:46
  SPEAKER_03: This will be a good test, I think, defense uh from the offensive line for the youths to see how they handle that uh that pressure.
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_03: Um so that might be something interesting to watch uh on that side of things.
• 1:03:55
  SPEAKER_03: So um we want to hear from you folks.
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_03: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we want to hear from you again, like like uh AJ said there, make sure you're loud and proud there um at uh at the Huntsman Center, not the Huntsman Center, that's the other one.
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_03: Ricycle Stadium.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_03: Ricycle Stadium.
• 1:04:09
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, at least it was on campus, right?
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_01: Be loud there, yeah.
• 1:04:11
  SPEAKER_03: Be loud there too.
• 1:04:12
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, you know, shout out the Hudson Center so they can hear you all the way.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_03: Um, as a BYU's fan, uh I always love messing with uh the Utes because uh SEC media is crazy.
• 1:04:22
  SPEAKER_03: I only I totally expect the Utes to win this week.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_01: That's right, and that's coming from a BYU fan, just so you guys know.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_03: That's right, a resident BYU fan, absolutely.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't know, McKay, did you see earlier where I talked about how BYU, did you see that too?
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_03: How he hit the Dodgers celebration?
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_03: Let me know if you caught that too.
• 1:04:36
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I can't remember which player it was, but he hit two Dodgers celebrations uh on touchdown runs.
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_01: Darren was so proud and I'm so disappointed in them.
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_03: I saw it, I'm just like, dude, that can't be a coincidence.
• 1:04:45
  SPEAKER_03: He used two Dodger celebrations.
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, um, yeah, folks, we want to hear from you, let's know your thoughts are in the comments down below.
• 1:04:51
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• 1:04:53
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• 1:04:54
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• 1:05:04
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• 1:05:06
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• 1:05:07
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• 1:05:08
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• 1:05:10
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• 1:05:12
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• 1:05:14
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• 1:05:16
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• 1:05:23
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• 1:05:37
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• 1:05:38
  SPEAKER_03: So 19 days left of the regular season, my friend.
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_03: Nineteen days left.
• 1:05:44
  SPEAKER_01: I know, and it's and it's absolutely it's getting down to the wire here.
• 1:05:48
  SPEAKER_01: Some of these some of these playoff races are getting so close.
• 1:05:51
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we're three, four games are gonna determine who actually makes that wild card.
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_03: And yeah, some some some races are are still in play.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_03: Especially in the AL.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of I guess I mostly watch the NL.
• 1:06:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:06:03
  SPEAKER_03: I mean there's uh in the American League, dude, there's more teams that are still in it than in the National League for sure.
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, I guess that's true.
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_03: You know, there's yeah.
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_03: I think there's uh I think officially a team will only have to have eighty-two wins to be a wildcard team in the American League.
• 1:06:18
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's like eighty-seven for or closer to eighty-eight, maybe eighty-seven.
• 1:06:22
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not sure.
• 1:06:23
  SPEAKER_03: Uh correct me in the comments if I'm wrong on that one, Greg.
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_03: I think you would know uh just as well as anybody.
• 1:06:27
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, so when it comes to that, man, I'm super excited, dude.
• 1:06:30
  SPEAKER_03: We're coming down the crunch time.
• 1:06:31
  SPEAKER_03: Again, there's you know, every team's got a magic number right now.
• 1:06:34
  SPEAKER_03: So the uh opponents losses versus wins will net you either, you know, a divisional crown or a postseason birth.
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_03: It's really cool to see.
• 1:06:43
  SPEAKER_03: Sad to see some teams go uh by the wayside, some teams we already knew we're out of it.
• 1:06:47
  SPEAKER_03: But uh yeah, we want before we talked about that, we want to talk about something in baseball that shouldn't be talked about on baseball, but for some reason we got to talk about it.
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:06:55
  SPEAKER_01: And and I guess this is just a uh a straight up controversy episode because Major League Baseball's got its own controversy, and and this one this one almost sounds a little bit too ridiculous to actually be true.
• 1:07:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um during the St.
• 1:07:10
  SPEAKER_01: Louis Card during St.
• 1:07:12
  SPEAKER_01: Louis Cardinals rookie pitcher Hansel Rincone's Major League debut, veteran umpire Doug Eddings stopped play and told Rincone to straighten his tilted hat.
• 1:07:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, this kind of started a crazy situation which ended up escalating to Cardinals manager Oliver Marmall, argued with Eddings, he was ultimately ejected.
• 1:07:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and now the MLB has reportedly told Eddings that he made a mistake by going as far as policing the way that Rincomb is wearing his hat.
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_01: So uh it's just a really bad look for MLB umpires, man.
• 1:07:43
  SPEAKER_01: And and I wanted to go into what the rule actually states.
• 1:07:46
  SPEAKER_01: Did you see this?
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know what the rule is, but yeah, you can Okay, so um the style rule, rule 3.03, requires players to wear the same style of team cap.
• 1:07:56
  SPEAKER_01: However, the rule book does not explicitly dictate the exact angle or orientation at which the cap must sit on their head.
• 1:08:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then the forward requirement.
• 1:08:05
  SPEAKER_01: According to the baseline league enforcement expectations, caps must be worn facing forward while on the field.
• 1:08:12
  SPEAKER_01: The only structural exemptions are catchers who obviously turn them backwards to wear protective masks and players participating in the home run derby.
• 1:08:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_03: I love that they made that correction.
• 1:08:21
  SPEAKER_03: You know why participating in the home run derby?
• 1:08:23
  SPEAKER_03: You know why that changed?
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I don't.
• 1:08:25
  SPEAKER_03: Griffey Jr., baby.
• 1:08:26
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, really?
• 1:08:26
  SPEAKER_03: The backwards cap himself.
• 1:08:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:08:28
  SPEAKER_03: The kid.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he wanted to wear it backwards, so they had to make an amendment to the rule just for the kid.
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, okay, this is what we're gonna have to do then.
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 1:08:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, man.
• 1:08:35
  SPEAKER_03: So, okay, and then the way this broke down, the way this happened was absolutely kind of ridiculous, right?
• 1:08:39
  SPEAKER_03: This is this kid's major league debut.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_03: And he wasn't exactly having the best outing out there.
• 1:08:45
  SPEAKER_03: A wild pitch, a hit-by pitch, a triple, all this stuff going out there, and in between batters, this umpire goes up to him and says, you know, straighten your cap, right?
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_03: Straighten it out, you know.
• 1:08:55
  SPEAKER_03: You know, this is not the same.
• 1:08:57
  SPEAKER_03: This happens in baseball a few times.
• 1:08:59
  SPEAKER_03: It's been it's been talked about before.
• 1:09:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I really love what uh the Cardinals manager Marnell said um after the game.
• 1:09:07
  SPEAKER_03: Did you hear this postseason reaction?
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_01: I think I saw it.
• 1:09:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he's like, I was like, my issue is with Doug, right?
• 1:09:12
  SPEAKER_03: Uh emphasizing that he wasn't arguing the challenge uh made by Rumfeld's triple.
• 1:09:17
  SPEAKER_03: Uh just Doug.
• 1:09:18
  SPEAKER_03: He took it upon himself to tell a rookie pitcher uh this kid's wearing his hat wrong.
• 1:09:23
  SPEAKER_03: He's not gonna wear that his hat that way on my field, right?
• 1:09:28
  SPEAKER_03: Not on my field, that way, right?
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_03: Is how he basically said it, right?
• 1:09:31
  SPEAKER_03: Like not you're not going to wear his hat that way on my field.
• 1:09:35
  SPEAKER_03: And he said, last time I checked, this was Cruzfield.
• 1:09:37
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, you got Dontrell Williams, you got CC Sabathia, Pedro Strobe, you know, plenty of guys wore their hat more than more in a more tilted way than he did.
• 1:09:47
  SPEAKER_03: Uh this was just this I have an issue with that.
• 1:09:50
  SPEAKER_03: This was just a power hungry move, in my opinion.
• 1:09:53
  SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, dude, I 100% agree with that, man.
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_03: Like, it doesn't make any sense uh for this umpire to say this.
• 1:10:02
  SPEAKER_03: And he claims that the Rockies hitter, which was Garrett, which was not Garrett, it was a completely different player up there.
• 1:10:09
  SPEAKER_03: But he made, oh yeah, the batter said, Oh, it's distracting.
• 1:10:11
  SPEAKER_03: I can't uh can't even focus with his hat tilted like that, you know.
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_03: And then that player intimately denied that he ever said anything because again, he wasn't at bat when that happened.
• 1:10:20
  SPEAKER_03: So of course he's denied it.
• 1:10:22
  SPEAKER_03: Fair enough.
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_03: And then secondly, the Rockies themselves vigantly denied that they had any objection to the way this kid was wearing his hat, right?
• 1:10:31
  SPEAKER_03: He was following the Fernando Rodney.
• 1:10:33
  SPEAKER_03: There's so you can name anybody can name a player when they're out in the field where their hat isn't perfectly straight.
• 1:10:38
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of lefties are doing that.
• 1:10:39
  SPEAKER_03: Hell, my hat's not straight right now.
• 1:10:41
  SPEAKER_03: You know, it's slightly cocked to the you know, to the right, because I'm left-handed.
• 1:10:45
  SPEAKER_03: When I throw the hat on, it's gonna be off-centered.
• 1:10:47
  SPEAKER_03: Like it's just it's the dumbest thing, and it's just another example of a umpire trying to make it about him.
• 1:10:53
  SPEAKER_03: And I absolutely hate it.
• 1:10:54
  SPEAKER_03: And I I love uh everything that came out of it, MLB.
• 1:10:57
  SPEAKER_03: He had to go out there and apologize.
• 1:10:59
  SPEAKER_03: And the fact that he didn't realize this kid doesn't speak English, he's like, Yeah, I think he tried to apologize to me.
• 1:11:03
  SPEAKER_03: I I don't know.
• 1:11:05
  SPEAKER_01: I just I just don't understand why you go out of your way to pick on a rookie pitcher ever.
• 1:11:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this I again, this is his debut.
• 1:11:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he's never gonna and you know he knew that this was his debut game.
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and he intentionally ruined it.
• 1:11:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he took a memory and he scarred it.
• 1:11:20
  SPEAKER_03: Like he just like I I like he's never gonna remember.
• 1:11:23
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, they made me straighten my hat on my debut, and it's bad enough I got roughed up, but yeah, they yeah.
• 1:11:28
  SPEAKER_01: I guess I guess my my opinion on this is just if you got a problem, you say something in between innings, you know what I mean?
• 1:11:35
  SPEAKER_01: As he's coming off the field, go over to him again.
• 1:11:37
  SPEAKER_01: He doesn't speak English, but there's there's a translator in the dugout, I'm sure.
• 1:11:41
  SPEAKER_01: Somebody that can at least relay the message to him, like, hey dude, you gotta fix that.
• 1:11:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like, it can you can you just try to pull a little bit, whatever, right?
• 1:11:48
  SPEAKER_01: You can be respectful and and then you can carry on with the game.
• 1:11:52
  SPEAKER_01: A, it doesn't, it didn't need to be addressed either way because the rule doesn't state anything about how as long as it's forward-facing, he can worry how whatever freaking angle he wants.
• 1:12:00
  SPEAKER_01: But if you've if it's really bothering you that bad, don't be the guy that just says you're not gonna do it on my field.
• 1:12:06
  SPEAKER_01: Go over, say something, be respectful.
• 1:12:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, this is this is a this is a kid in his major league debut that just wants a shot to go out and play baseball.
• 1:12:15
  SPEAKER_01: And like you said, you've now tarnished this memory.
• 1:12:18
  SPEAKER_01: Put him into the mainstream media because of your ridiculousness, just so unnecessary.
• 1:12:22
  SPEAKER_01: And you mean it about you.
• 1:12:23
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 1:12:24
  SPEAKER_01: That's all you mean.
• 1:12:25
  SPEAKER_03: And you let everybody know your true feelings about it because you said my field.
• 1:12:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:12:28
  SPEAKER_03: This is not your field.
• 1:12:30
  SPEAKER_01: No, no.
• 1:12:31
  SPEAKER_03: You are hired help.
• 1:12:32
  SPEAKER_03: Go out there and call the balls and strikes.
• 1:12:34
  SPEAKER_03: You're not even allowed to do that half the time.
• 1:12:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:12:36
  SPEAKER_03: People can challenge that.
• 1:12:37
  SPEAKER_03: You're losing power by the year.
• 1:12:39
  SPEAKER_03: I just everything about this just is just very annoying, and I don't like it.
• 1:12:42
  SPEAKER_03: Dirty.
• 1:12:43
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we want to hear from you folks.
• 1:12:44
  SPEAKER_03: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we got a comment here coming from channel legend, Greg Hawkins.
• 1:12:50
  SPEAKER_03: Cubs are in on a bad stretch again.
• 1:12:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but they got that second spot locked, dude.
• 1:12:55
  SPEAKER_03: I think you're good.
• 1:12:56
  SPEAKER_03: You're not catching milk, you're not gonna catch Milwaukee.
• 1:12:59
  SPEAKER_03: I think you're good, man.
• 1:13:00
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 1:13:00
  SPEAKER_03: What do you think?
• 1:13:01
  SPEAKER_03: I think the Cubs are pretty set there.
• 1:13:03
  SPEAKER_01: They're gonna be just fine.
• 1:13:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:05
  SPEAKER_01: Everyone goes through a little patch.
• 1:13:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
• 1:13:07
  SPEAKER_01: Use these games, get rested up, be ready for the postseason.
• 1:13:10
  SPEAKER_01: Cubs will be fine.
• 1:13:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:13:13
  SPEAKER_03: I think they're gonna be good for sure.
• 1:13:14
  SPEAKER_01: So next topic we want to talk about is uh Shohei Otani and the LA Dodgers, surprisingly.
• 1:13:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um but the Dodgers, the Dodgers kind of entered 2026 and they were really hoping that Shohei could give them that full season two-way dominance.
• 1:13:33
  SPEAKER_01: But now we got the postseason approaching, and and that plan's looking a whole lot different than it did at the beginning of the season for like for sure.
• 1:13:41
  SPEAKER_01: So we all know Shohei's, you know, he's battled a series of injuries.
• 1:13:45
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, his production at the plate's dipped, and you know, now he's kind of officially stopped working towards you know his return to the mound this season.
• 1:13:53
  SPEAKER_01: So um the Dodgers are gonna need to rely on Shohei somehow, right?
• 1:13:57
  SPEAKER_01: Whether it's just a hitter, like they're gonna need him to kind of carry this rotation.
• 1:14:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um and and then you know, and then they're also gonna have to rely on this crazy deep pitching rotation that they have that you know to kind of get them into October.
• 1:14:11
  SPEAKER_01: So my question to you, Mr.
• 1:14:13
  SPEAKER_01: Dodgers fan, is how will Shohei's injuries and decision to shut down his pitching affect the Dodgers when the postseason does arrive?
• 1:14:23
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm I'm kind of torn on this one.
• 1:14:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:14:25
  SPEAKER_03: First of all, he's not part of the rotation by him shutting down his pitcher, he's not gonna be part of the rotation.
• 1:14:29
  SPEAKER_01: I I know that, and I worded that really well.
• 1:14:31
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, just want to make sure we're okay.
• 1:14:33
  SPEAKER_01: I said rotation, but I was saying he needs to carry in the roster.
• 1:14:36
  SPEAKER_01: On the roster, right?
• 1:14:37
  SPEAKER_01: He's gonna he's gonna have to help carry this team as a hitter versus in the pitching rotation.
• 1:14:42
  SPEAKER_03: He ain't doing that so far.
• 1:14:43
  SPEAKER_03: I'll tell you that right now.
• 1:14:44
  SPEAKER_03: Uh but yeah, man, I'm I'm really kind of torn on this one, man.
• 1:14:46
  SPEAKER_03: Um, in 14 starts, AJ, uh, he was eight and two this year with a 1.79 ERA, 95 strikeouts, and a.95 whip.
• 1:14:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um, those are all really good numbers, by the way.
• 1:15:00
  SPEAKER_01: Oh very good numbers, yes.
• 1:15:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, very, very good numbers.
• 1:15:02
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so that means he's let he's the whip might throw people off.
• 1:15:06
  SPEAKER_03: What that is, is he's averaging less than one run, sorry, one hit or one walk less than one per inning pitched.
• 1:15:15
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:15:16
  SPEAKER_03: Which is really, really good.
• 1:15:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so again, in 14 starts, AJ, that's not exactly a small sample size.
• 1:15:22
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I mean, who wouldn't want a pitcher in the postseason, you know, with a sub two ERA?
• 1:15:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, in 14 starts this season.
• 1:15:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:15:31
  SPEAKER_03: You know, he was the best going in through 14 starts in this in this year to start the season, he was the best pitcher on the team.
• 1:15:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:15:38
  SPEAKER_03: Not only that, AJ, he was again, like I said, the best pitcher on the Dodgers.
• 1:15:44
  SPEAKER_03: The next best pitcher for him, Glasnow, threw 10 starts.
• 1:15:48
  SPEAKER_03: His ERA was a full run higher at 2.79.
• 1:15:51
  SPEAKER_01: Which is still respectable.
• 1:15:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, not bad at all.
• 1:15:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know.
• 1:15:55
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, dude, I mean, I know, I know.
• 1:15:57
  SPEAKER_03: He didn't pitch a full season.
• 1:15:58
  SPEAKER_03: He went down after 14 starts.
• 1:15:59
  SPEAKER_03: But here's the funny thing, AJ, nobody in baseball even got close.
• 1:16:04
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 1:16:04
  SPEAKER_03: In all of baseball, through their first 14 starts, only the Miz had a sub two ERA at 1.95.
• 1:16:11
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:16:11
  SPEAKER_03: Which, by the way, I know you're gonna ask.
• 1:16:13
  SPEAKER_03: Sale had a 2.10, um, had 101 strikeouts.
• 1:16:16
  SPEAKER_01: I actually knew it was just over two, so just over two.
• 1:16:20
  SPEAKER_03: I knew he was gonna ask or make a comment, so we had to make sure we got it in there.
• 1:16:23
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 1:16:24
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, he was easily the best pitcher in baseball through his first uh 14 starts, and it really, really sucks to not have that arm available in the postseason.
• 1:16:31
  SPEAKER_03: It really, really sucks.
• 1:16:33
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't matter how good your rotation is, having a pitcher that good, not on the mound, um, you know, is gonna be a problem, especially when he's not killing the box either, AJ.
• 1:16:42
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:16:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so I hope that changes.
• 1:16:44
  SPEAKER_03: I hope with him, you know, shutting it down and being out of the lineup the last five uh the last six games this season so far, uh, that they're trying to give him uh trying to give him a beat, man.
• 1:16:55
  SPEAKER_03: Let him settle into just being a hitter again.
• 1:16:57
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, because right now we need him to get as close to that all-star level hitter that we know he can be, uh, at least at an all-star level bat, not necessarily MVP level bat, but at least get close, like at all-star, maybe.
• 1:17:09
  SPEAKER_03: If he can get if he can hit for power average, give us something there, man.
• 1:17:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:17:13
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, he's still batting like 270, but still.
• 1:17:15
  SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, in my opinion, man, if he's if they didn't get to where they got without him in the postseason the last two seasons, and they're not gonna get far without him this postseason.
• 1:17:27
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, absolutely, man.
• 1:17:28
  SPEAKER_03: Like I like it's going to it's going to impact this team, and you're gonna have to rely on uh some pitchers you probably didn't want to rely on coming into the coming in back in the lineup that you were expecting to be uh sorry, back in the rotation you were expecting to be in the bullpen, like a Roki Sasaki or a uh Robleski or potentially uh Emmett Sheehan.
• 1:17:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:17:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I I think I think for the Dodgers, I think the the frustrating part is is you know, you you did like obviously you signed this guy because you're like he he's he's the best player in baseball.
• 1:18:02
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 1:18:02
  SPEAKER_01: But but you go out there and you you lose half of his his potential production in either pitching or hitting.
• 1:18:09
  SPEAKER_01: And then when he starts struggling at the plate, you're just like oh man, are we in trouble?
• 1:18:13
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 1:18:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like you've you've kind of built this team around Shohei, so now you get to this point and you're like, okay, we've got to make sure that we can get him, you know, just back to feeling somewhat normal because again, we're we're gonna need hit we're gonna need that, even if it's just all star bat when the postseason arrives.
• 1:18:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:18:30
  SPEAKER_03: It's not like the 60 million dollar players lighting it up right now either.
• 1:18:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I mean, at least he's been consistently not good.
• 1:18:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean he's been consistently okay on the road.
• 1:18:39
  SPEAKER_03: So I'll give it to that, I'll give that to him.
• 1:18:41
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, man, they're just there's a hole that uh, you know, there's definitely a hole in the lineup, and it's definitely Shoei Otani right now, and they've got it figured out.
• 1:18:49
  SPEAKER_03: Hopefully, by him just focusing on just hitting and getting that bicep and that knee as healthy as they can before the postseason, you you really need to see it for sure.
• 1:18:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:18:58
  SPEAKER_01: So to go a little bit further on Shohei, um, you know, I mean he he has he's proven that he can he can do what nobody else in baseball really can, right?
• 1:19:07
  SPEAKER_01: And and as we're watching these injuries kind of pile up, I know I mean I know it's been tough, but you know, he dominated on the mound early this season.
• 1:19:13
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, his pitching comeback was kind of delayed and delayed, and you know, now they've decided, okay, we're gonna shut it down, we're gonna we're gonna have him focus on hitting.
• 1:19:21
  SPEAKER_01: So with the production at the plate, you know, it's kind of taking a step back, you got questions, but you've got to start asking if this is becoming too much physically for Shohei, right?
• 1:19:34
  SPEAKER_01: He he's not uh 20 years old anymore.
• 1:19:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um and don't get me wrong, he's got plenty of time left on his contract.
• 1:19:41
  SPEAKER_01: We he's got 416 years or however long the Dodger extended that thing out to, but you know seven years.
• 1:19:48
  SPEAKER_01: But could we be watching the beginning of the end of you know, full-time two-way starters?
• 1:19:53
  SPEAKER_01: So you know, is Shohei essentially aging out of being baseball's ultimate two-way superstar?
• 1:20:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um no.
• 1:20:03
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:20:04
  SPEAKER_03: Should I should I give you some?
• 1:20:05
  SPEAKER_01: That's it, folks.
• 1:20:06
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks a lot for watching.
• 1:20:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, I mean, I don't I don't think he's done, man.
• 1:20:10
  SPEAKER_03: I I think again, some of what we talked about last week was that if Shohei gets to decide some of his fate with some of the contract that he has there.
• 1:20:17
  SPEAKER_03: I do see his um him being in a you know, his tenure being different um as a two-way star, similar to how he's doing it as a dodger so far, right?
• 1:20:30
  SPEAKER_03: He I don't think he's ever going to qualify as a Cy Young pitcher as a two-way player.
• 1:20:35
  SPEAKER_01: This is kind of his year for that.
• 1:20:37
  SPEAKER_03: This was his year to kind of do that, kind of prove that he can do that.
• 1:20:40
  SPEAKER_03: Nobody north of 30 without a little bit of extra help is gonna be able to have a Cy Young caliber pitching as well as being a sub, you know.
• 1:20:49
  SPEAKER_01: Without a little bit extra help.
• 1:20:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no one can be uh nobody can be north of on the wrong side of 30, be an MVP level player, you know, hit 50 home runs, still 50 bags, and go out there and win a cy young.
• 1:21:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no one's gonna do that.
• 1:21:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, without a little help.
• 1:21:05
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 1:21:05
  SPEAKER_01: Something wrong with that, Statement?
• 1:21:06
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 1:21:07
  SPEAKER_01: I thought you were talking specifically about pitching, and I was just like, Chris Sale.
• 1:21:11
  SPEAKER_01: Chris Sale's north of 30.
• 1:21:13
  SPEAKER_03: I already mentioned Chris Sale in the episode.
• 1:21:15
  SPEAKER_01: I know, but that we've talked so much about it.
• 1:21:17
  SPEAKER_01: We've got to bring Chris Sale back into it.
• 1:21:19
  SPEAKER_01: Doesn't get views, man.
• 1:21:19
  SPEAKER_01: We've had this conversation.
• 1:21:21
  SPEAKER_01: No, that's that's true.
• 1:21:21
  SPEAKER_01: And we've and we've proven this time and time again, too.
• 1:21:24
  SPEAKER_03: The only time he got views was when we tagged, we piggybacked it with Yamamoto.
• 1:21:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, damn it.
• 1:21:29
  SPEAKER_03: This coming from the guy who wanted to make this a Dodgers only channel.
• 1:21:32
  SPEAKER_03: Um, this is it's great.
• 1:21:34
  SPEAKER_03: People watch Dodgers content.
• 1:21:36
  SPEAKER_03: Apparently, apparently.
• 1:21:37
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't want to make it, I wanted to very rarely talk about Dodgers, but anyway.
• 1:21:41
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, man, uh, unless he's such down the bat and focused solely on pitching, um, I don't think he's ever gonna be considered close to being a Cy Young candidate because he's just simply not gonna pitch enough.
• 1:21:51
  SPEAKER_03: I think that he's still gonna be a two-way player, absolutely.
• 1:21:54
  SPEAKER_03: But do I see him having more than 20 starts a year where he's not shutting it down for half the time?
• 1:21:58
  SPEAKER_03: I don't see that happening.
• 1:22:00
  SPEAKER_01: No, I don't think so either.
• 1:22:01
  SPEAKER_01: I I think I think my first wording of that question is is probably true.
• 1:22:07
  SPEAKER_01: I think we are probably watching the end of his full-time two-way starter career, right?
• 1:22:12
  SPEAKER_01: He's not going to be a full-time uh pitcher the rest of his career that is at the caliber that he that he displayed this year.
• 1:22:20
  SPEAKER_01: Now, he he can be a hitter, so yes, he's still going to be a two-way player for the rest of his career, potentially, but is he going to be a full-time two-way?
• 1:22:28
  SPEAKER_01: No, I don't think so.
• 1:22:29
  SPEAKER_01: I think he's used he'll probably be used a lot more intermittently on the pitching side moving forward because they would rather and and realistically as a Dodgers fan, you probably don't hate that, right?
• 1:22:40
  SPEAKER_01: If he's gonna throw 20 games and and you're gonna space those out where he's you know, maybe every other rotation that he's getting a start, but then he's available for the postseason, right?
• 1:22:48
  SPEAKER_01: He can he can throw one game every series.
• 1:22:51
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, that's just fine.
• 1:22:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know what I mean?
• 1:22:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's the biggest problem with this right now, is the fact that he's not gonna be pitching in the postseason.
• 1:22:59
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely, you know, and we won a world series without him pitching in the postseason.
• 1:23:02
  SPEAKER_03: Max Wincy just went deep, by the way.
• 1:23:04
  SPEAKER_03: Um, that's it's one of those things where it's you know, you had him in the postseason before where he's just a hitter.
• 1:23:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and he absolutely, absolutely raked.
• 1:23:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, was one of the biggest difference makers on the team.
• 1:23:15
  SPEAKER_03: That's how we got one of the reasons why we got past the Yankees is as easily as we did.
• 1:23:19
  SPEAKER_03: And then last year we was able to pitch, he had one of the best performances in baseball history, striking out 10, you know, in a shutout inning with hitting three or home runs in a single game.
• 1:23:29
  SPEAKER_03: Come on now.
• 1:23:30
  SPEAKER_03: That's awesome to see.
• 1:23:31
  SPEAKER_01: I like that you just said he struck out 10 in a single inning.
• 1:23:34
  SPEAKER_03: Single inning, it happens.
• 1:23:36
  SPEAKER_03: I am that is very impressive.
• 1:23:38
  SPEAKER_03: He is that good.
• 1:23:39
  SPEAKER_03: I would love to see that.
• 1:23:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but do I see him like honestly?
• 1:23:43
  SPEAKER_03: Uh do I see him ever being like a scion caliber pitcher again while he's still hitting?
• 1:23:47
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely not.
• 1:23:48
  SPEAKER_03: But do I see him potentially shutting down the bat so he can pitch?
• 1:23:51
  SPEAKER_03: That is a subject for another video, my friend.
• 1:23:54
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 1:23:55
  SPEAKER_03: We want to hear from you folks.
• 1:23:56
  SPEAKER_03: Let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below.
• 1:23:58
  SPEAKER_03: We got a comment here from friend of the channel, Tammy Price, saying, I think his starts will diminish.
• 1:24:03
  SPEAKER_03: Too many injuries.
• 1:24:05
  SPEAKER_03: We need to see him concentrate on hitting.
• 1:24:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, needs to concentrate on something right now because it's been uh just concentrate on anything show, hey.
• 1:24:12
  SPEAKER_03: Honestly, just don't suck.
• 1:24:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's all we need from you.
• 1:24:15
  SPEAKER_03: That's all I need from you.
• 1:24:16
  SPEAKER_03: I'm super excited, man.
• 1:24:17
  SPEAKER_03: We're cut down the crunch time.
• 1:24:18
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna start seeing uh teams uh clinch the playoffs, and it's gonna be fun.
• 1:24:21
  SPEAKER_03: We'll probably be able to talk about who clinched a playoff birth next week.
• 1:24:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:24:25
  SPEAKER_03: Which will be awesome.
• 1:24:26
  SPEAKER_03: Some champagne showers and stuff like that.
• 1:24:28
  SPEAKER_03: We want to hear from you folks.
• 1:24:29
  SPEAKER_03: Let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below.
• 1:24:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um, how are things looking for your team?
• 1:24:32
  SPEAKER_03: Let us know.
• 1:24:33
  SPEAKER_03: We want to hear from you.
• 1:24:34
  SPEAKER_03: I got one last thing.
• 1:24:35
  SPEAKER_03: Sounds good.
• 1:24:36
  SPEAKER_03: How about that LA Della Cruz throw?
• 1:24:39
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, from center field?
• 1:24:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:24:41
  SPEAKER_03: Throwing out to Oscar Hernandez, dude.
• 1:24:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, dude.
• 1:24:44
  SPEAKER_03: Why in the heck did they send him, dude?
• 1:24:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like there was no way when they also you he could not have.
• 1:24:51
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, did you see that it originally clocked at like 105?
• 1:24:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:24:55
  SPEAKER_01: But then they then they backed it off and said it was only 102.
• 1:24:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:24:58
  SPEAKER_01: But to throw that ball from middle of center field on the absolute money to gun down De Oscar Hernandez, dude.
• 1:25:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:25:07
  SPEAKER_03: I think just gold.
• 1:25:09
  SPEAKER_03: I think the throw it got screwed.
• 1:25:13
  SPEAKER_03: Like for me as a Dodgers fan, I knew he was out the second they sent him.
• 1:25:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:25:18
  SPEAKER_03: I knew he was out.
• 1:25:19
  SPEAKER_03: Teoscar is not a wheels guy.
• 1:25:21
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:25:21
  SPEAKER_03: And inside the park home runs, not happening for Teoscar Hernandez.
• 1:25:25
  SPEAKER_03: You know, the other Hernandez, you know, Kike Hernandez, maybe.
• 1:25:29
  SPEAKER_03: Tommy Eminem, maybe.
• 1:25:30
  SPEAKER_03: You know, some of these other players on the Dodgers, absolutely, but not Teo.
• 1:25:33
  SPEAKER_03: Teo's one of the slowest guys on the team.
• 1:25:35
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe uh, maybe uh Freddie Freeman wouldn't get there.
• 1:25:40
  SPEAKER_03: But there is no way, as soon as he hit it in, as soon as he got past, like, oh, he's gonna try and go for inside the parker.
• 1:25:44
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, no, don't send him.
• 1:25:45
  SPEAKER_03: They're gonna stop at third.
• 1:25:46
  SPEAKER_03: No, they sent him.
• 1:25:47
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, dude, he didn't even have to throw at 80 miles an hour to get him out.
• 1:25:50
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, at that point, though, you're literally just rolling the dice on if the throw's on the money or not.
• 1:25:55
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 1:25:55
  SPEAKER_01: Like, if you know he's not fast enough, you're just hoping that the throws three feet either way from the bag.
• 1:26:02
  SPEAKER_03: Honestly, dude, like, yeah, it would there's no way that his throw wasn't gonna be, though.
• 1:26:06
  SPEAKER_03: Like, that's De La Cruz, dude.
• 1:26:08
  SPEAKER_01: That guy can that's that's his whole life.
• 1:26:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, he's not a great defensive shortstop, but he's got an arm, dude.
• 1:26:13
  SPEAKER_03: He's got a crazy arm.
• 1:26:15
  SPEAKER_03: He can hit he can hit bombs and he can throw it hard.
• 1:26:17
  SPEAKER_03: Like if there's a player that should be a two-way player, it's L de La Cruz.
• 1:26:21
  SPEAKER_03: He should be a pitcher.
• 1:26:22
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:26:22
  SPEAKER_03: Two-way play.
• 1:26:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:26:24
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, I just thought that play was so funny because anybody who's a Dodgers fan or watches Tay Oscar Hernandez play, you knew that that guy was out.
• 1:26:30
  SPEAKER_03: It could have been a subpar outfielder there making that throw and he was gonna be out.
• 1:26:34
  SPEAKER_03: You know, uh throwing it 102 miles an hour, he could have thrown it at third and they still had enough time to throw it home.
• 1:26:38
  SPEAKER_03: Like it's just he was just that throw was just so on the money, so hard, like it was embarrassing how how far he was out.
• 1:26:50
  SPEAKER_02: I have to actually wait for him to get to make sure I'm not blocking the plate.
• 1:26:53
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, here we go.
• 1:26:54
  SPEAKER_02: He checks check the time, like the inning is it, you know.
• 1:26:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I had a cigarette, like great, great throw, though.
• 1:27:01
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I don't want to take it from him.
• 1:27:02
  SPEAKER_03: That was a great play from him, but yeah, dude, it was kind of bad call on the dodgers.
• 1:27:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, really bad call on the dodge.
• 1:27:07
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know why they said Was there runners on when when he hit it?
• 1:27:10
  SPEAKER_03: No, it was it was uh I don't think so.
• 1:27:14
  SPEAKER_03: No, they had there was a runner on, and I think so.
• 1:27:16
  SPEAKER_01: One scored.
• 1:27:17
  SPEAKER_03: Tammy Price friend of the channel, let me know on that one.
• 1:27:20
  SPEAKER_03: Dela Cruz wants to come to LA.
• 1:27:22
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, dude, there's so much talk about that.
• 1:27:24
  SPEAKER_03: Like he he wants to be a dodger so bad.
• 1:27:27
  SPEAKER_03: It's so funny.
• 1:27:28
  SPEAKER_03: But uh yeah, we we have a good shortstop, so we don't really need him.
• 1:27:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah.
• 1:27:33
  SPEAKER_03: You got anything else on me as well?
• 1:27:34
  SPEAKER_03: No, that was it.
• 1:27:35
  SPEAKER_03: All right, I just had to throw that one in there.
• 1:27:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we don't need another$400 million contract on our payroll, so that would be brutal.
• 1:27:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, maybe he could play maybe maybe they can just borrow the money from your own company, though.
• 1:27:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, yeah, that would work.
• 1:27:52
  SPEAKER_03: Borrow the money from you could borrow it from uh from Kyle Tucker.
• 1:27:55
  SPEAKER_03: He's not using it, yeah.
• 1:27:56
  SPEAKER_03: Well, he's using it, he's not earning it, he's just not earning it.
• 1:27:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, big difference, big difference.
• 1:28:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I love it, man.
• 1:28:03
  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
• 1:28:04
  SPEAKER_03: Let's know if you guys want us to break us, that break down the whole, you know, uh, what's his name?
• 1:28:09
  SPEAKER_03: Mark Walters thing a little bit more.
• 1:28:11
  SPEAKER_03: More stuff's come out about that sense.
• 1:28:13
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 1:28:14
  SPEAKER_03: I I still I still stand on my same thing there.
• 1:28:16
  SPEAKER_03: Like, you know, all these all these borrowing issues happened after the Dodgers were done.
• 1:28:20
  SPEAKER_03: Like, he even got the whole Dodgers thing approved by regulators.
• 1:28:24
  SPEAKER_03: It wasn't only after that that he went a little crazy and wanted to become a sports icon.
• 1:28:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, so everybody'll know my name.
• 1:28:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, which is really weird.
• 1:28:33
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know why you want that as an owner, you know, billionaire owner.
• 1:28:37
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know why you want that.
• 1:28:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but anyway, like if in my opinion, like it's very simple.
• 1:28:41
  SPEAKER_03: Even if that was the case, all you gotta do is just literally there's not a single person out there that has the money that would not buy 15% of the Dodgers.
• 1:28:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:28:50
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, they're the first team to make a billion dollars in one year.
• 1:28:52
  SPEAKER_03: They already paid Shoey's a contract already, like they already earned it back.
• 1:28:56
  SPEAKER_03: So there's nobody who wouldn't want to buy that.
• 1:28:58
  SPEAKER_03: So I don't think it's really gonna be a bother.
• 1:29:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we've got a comment from friend of the channel here.
• 1:29:02
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, this one's actually from Michelle McKinnon 403.
• 1:29:05
  SPEAKER_03: Hit that like button for Darren and AJ.
• 1:29:08
  SPEAKER_03: Appreciate it.
• 1:29:08
  SPEAKER_01: She's a friend of the channel too, man.
• 1:29:10
  SPEAKER_01: Don't put that past her.
• 1:29:11
  SPEAKER_01: She just said hit the like button.
• 1:29:12
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 1:29:13
  SPEAKER_03: Michelle.
• 1:29:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, of another fellow friend of the channel, Michelle McKinnon 403.
• 1:29:18
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• 1:29:20
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• 1:29:23
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• 1:29:24
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• 1:29:26
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• 1:29:27
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• 1:29:33
  SPEAKER_03: With all that said, my name is Darren.
• 1:29:34
  SPEAKER_03: That is AJ, and this has been an episode of the DNA sports recap.
• 1:29:38
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