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Skye Wheatley Speaks Out After Being Charged With Drink Driving · Outspoken the Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken.
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Speaker 2: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture
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Speaker 2: news twice a week.
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Speaker 1: I'm Sophie Torber. And I'm Kate Torber. And coming up
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Speaker 1: on today's show, Sky Wheatley admits she's hit rock bottom
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Speaker 1: after being charged with drink driving. And the Aussie mummy
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Speaker 1: blogger's own Wagga for Christy style drama. But first, Matt
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Speaker 1: Hay has put Australian influencers on notice for not being
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Speaker 1: up to scratch. The Australian content creator and podcaster best
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Speaker 1: known as All Right Hey said this to his 431,000 followers.
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Speaker 3: I'll say what everyone's thinking. There's too many influencers and
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Speaker 3: you're all fucking boring. Where is the personality? Bring back
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Speaker 3: being interesting. I don't need to see another boost juice
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Speaker 3: taste test review of the Air One dupes. I want
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Speaker 3: the internet to be as unhinged as Tana Mongeau getting
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Speaker 3: fucked by a toothbrush.
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Speaker 2: I have to second what Matt said and I've been
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Speaker 2: thinking this for a while now. I mean, we obviously
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Speaker 2: have an influencer podcast and I would have to say
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Speaker 2: the stories that we were covering back in 2019 when
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Speaker 2: we first started were far more out there and crazy
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Speaker 2: than what we talk about now.
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Speaker 1: I have to say Tammy Hembrough must have sore shoulders
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Speaker 1: because she has definitely been been carrying the load for
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Speaker 1: the other influencers. She has been delivering some absolutely gold
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Speaker 1: stories across the last couple of years, but other influencers
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Speaker 1: have been letting us down. They need to pick up
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Speaker 1: the slack.
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Speaker 2: I mean, we often cop criticism for talking a lot
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Speaker 2: about Tammy Hembrough, but it's because so many other influencers,
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Speaker 2: as Matt said, are fucking boring.
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Speaker 1: And the thing is, I feel partly.
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Speaker 2: Responsible though, because I do think a lot of the
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Speaker 2: reasons why so many influencers have become boring is because
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Speaker 2: they don't want to be put up on gossip forums.
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Speaker 2: They don't want to be on the watchdog accounts. They
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Speaker 2: don't want the mainstream media picking up on things that
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Speaker 2: they do. I wonder if there's also a level of
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Speaker 2: embarrassment because they know that their family and friends are
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Speaker 2: also watching them. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, for those not across the Tana Mongeau reference,
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Speaker 1: Matt was referring to this infamous 2016 YouTube that she
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Speaker 1: uploaded where she spoke about a high school rumor that
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Speaker 1: someone started about her and her toothbrush. The YouTube was titled,
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Speaker 1: I got banged with the toothbrush story time. And you
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Speaker 1: better believe that clickbait headline generated a lot of views.
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Speaker 1: It's had 7.4 million views since it was uploaded. Now,
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Speaker 1: Tana uploaded that video in 2026. Can you imagine the
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Speaker 1: media headlines? But there wouldn't have been any 10 years
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Speaker 1: ago because media weren't across the influencer space.
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Speaker 2: It is wild to think about how much the influencer
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Speaker 2: landscape has changed because really before it was a group
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Speaker 2: of teenagers who were sitting in their bedrooms speaking.
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Speaker 1: Directly to a camera. they felt pretty.
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Speaker 2: Confident in knowing it was just their followers who were
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Speaker 2: hearing their stories. They would never have dreamed that large-scale
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Speaker 2: news outlets would pick up on these like they are
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Speaker 2: doing a decade later.
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Speaker 1: Well, influencer Bella Messina actually commented something quite similar to
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Speaker 1: your sentiment, Sophie, on Matt's video. So she wrote, being
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Speaker 1: unhinged is fun until you have to deal with real-life consequences.
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Speaker 1: People forget the cardinal rule of everything stays on the
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Speaker 1: silly little phone and we don't talk about it in
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Speaker 1: real life. And that's essentially what happened before, I'd say, 2020.
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Speaker 1: I think the pandemic and people being at home and
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Speaker 1: really being invested on what was going on in their
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Speaker 1: phones changed everything.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's because the sentiment also really shifted with influencers. Pre-2020,
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Speaker 2: I felt like it was this sort of make-believe fun
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Speaker 2: land where you could really get lost in the escapism
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Speaker 2: of it all. But when 2020 hit, everyone suddenly turned
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Speaker 2: on influencers and started hating their guts and everything that
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Speaker 2: they did became a news headline.
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Speaker 1: It's funny you say that because Matt posted a follow-up
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Speaker 1: video where he said he wanted to bring back influencers
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Speaker 1: being out of touch. And he said he would eat
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Speaker 1: up and influence a brand trip to the Maldives and
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Speaker 1: then getting gifted $ 10, 000 worth of free products. And it
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Speaker 1: was all about escapism at the time. It was like,
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Speaker 1: we weren't actually jealous because it was only happening to,
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Speaker 1: as Matt also touched on, there were like 20 influencers then.
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Speaker 1: Now there are 2000. So I think back then we
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Speaker 1: saw influencers as celebrities, but now because the industry is
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Speaker 1: so saturated with influencers, it's kind of like, oh, well,
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Speaker 1: I could be an influencer and I'm just like them.
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Speaker 1: Why aren't I getting this stuff? I disagree.
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Speaker 2: I reckon the reason why we didn't have such an
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Speaker 2: issue with it a decade ago was because we felt
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Speaker 2: like influencers were the girl next door and our best
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Speaker 2: buddies because it wasn't seen as this huge industry.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that it definitely was an element of that.
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Speaker 1: But I also think it was like these lucky few,
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Speaker 1: like you really have to be on your game and
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Speaker 1: be in that top echelon to get that. It's not
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Speaker 1: like everyone is being treated like that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because now there's a lot of micro-influencers who really
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Speaker 2: get showered in free gifts and admiration as well.
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Speaker 1: And a lot of money. And let's not pretend that
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Speaker 1: that doesn't have anything to do with influencers sanitizing themselves
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Speaker 1: because brands don't want to work with controversial influencers. It
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Speaker 1: damages their brands. But ironically, audiences are getting fed up
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Speaker 1: with boring influencers and they want the controversy. And it
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Speaker 1: makes me think, well, what's the longevity of the influencer industry?
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Speaker 1: Are we going to see influencers having to turn to
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Speaker 1: subscription channels rather than making money off advertising dollars. That
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Speaker 1: way they can actually be a bit more interesting and controversial.
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Speaker 2: Well, ironically, it was two influencers who make a hell
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Speaker 2: of a lot of money off subscription platforms who weighed
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Speaker 2: in under Matt's post. So Michaela Testa wrote, I'm trying
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Speaker 2: my best while Veruca Salt added, I'm holding it down
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Speaker 2: as best I can. And Matt replied, and thank God, girl.
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Speaker 2: And again, I think that Michaela and Veruca can be
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Speaker 2: controversial and.
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Speaker 1: Really out there. because they don't have to rely on advertising. Also,
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Speaker 1: both of them have done stints in the US, so
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Speaker 1: they would be making money from the US creator fund.
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Speaker 2: Maybe that's what we need to make things interesting in Australia,
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Speaker 2: an Australian creator fund, because then people aren't relying on advertisers.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly what I was thinking, because at the moment,
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Speaker 1: Australian content creators don't get paid for how many views
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Speaker 1: they generate. They're having to rely on brand deals. So
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Speaker 1: TikTok Australia, if you're listening, can you please bring in
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Speaker 1: the creator fund? Us audiences need it. We want some controversy.
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Speaker 4: I'm still yet to work out like what the purpose
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Speaker 4: was for that because I'm like, what's this person getting
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Speaker 4: out of that?
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Speaker 2: Sky Wheatley has spoken out after being charged with drink driving.
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Speaker 2: The former Big Brother contestant told her 618,000 Instagram followers
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Speaker 2: she's hit rock bottom but is undertaking counselling. Kate, can
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Speaker 2: you take us back to the start when the incident
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Speaker 2: took place?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so two Saturday nights ago, Sky was breathalysed outside
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Speaker 1: a Gold Coast McDonald's. Now, according to reports, she'd been
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Speaker 1: parked outside the fast food restaurant for four hours trying
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Speaker 1: to sober up when a passerby contacted the police. Once
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Speaker 1: police arrived, she allegedly recorded a blood alcohol reading more
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Speaker 1: than double over the legal limit. It was actually the.
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Speaker 2: Daily Mail who broke the news first behind a paywall,
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Speaker 2: but it didn't take long for other media outlets to
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Speaker 2: pick up on the story.
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Speaker 1: Now, while Sky is.
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Speaker 2: Yet to publicly confirm the charges, In the aftermath, she
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Speaker 2: told her followers she had the worst two days of
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Speaker 2: her life. She also went on to say, I'm realizing
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Speaker 2: how horrible and scary people can be in this world.
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Speaker 1: At the time she made those comments, it was unclear
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Speaker 1: who she was referring to. However, on Thursday night, she
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Speaker 1: took to her Instagram story after a counseling session. In
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Speaker 1: a 14-minute address to the camera, she revealed that someone
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Speaker 1: on her Instagram close friends leaked personal information about her
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Speaker 1: to the Daily Mail. Now, she refused to name the
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Speaker 1: person but said she was naive to trust them and
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Speaker 1: now realizes they have, quote, screws loose. Let's take a
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Speaker 1: listen to more of what she said.
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Speaker 4: Basically, they took all of my close friend's mental breakdown
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Speaker 4: shit to Daily Mail and they deny it, but it's facts.
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Speaker 5: Like, I know. I'm not stupid.
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Speaker 4: I'm still yet to work out, like, what the purpose
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Speaker 4: was for that because I'm like, what's this person getting
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Speaker 4: out of that?
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Speaker 5: Because I don't think they would have got paid. Maybe.
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Speaker 5: I would love that for some closure. I would love
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Speaker 5: to know if, like, they were dishing dirt and then
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Speaker 5: getting money for it.
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Speaker 4: Because, yeah, that would make sense. But, like, if they're
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Speaker 4: just giving information to Daily Mail for.
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Speaker 6: No reason, just to, I don't know, fuck with people's
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Speaker 6: heads or try to ruin someone's life, or whatever the
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Speaker 6: fuck they were trying to do, it.
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Speaker 5: Just doesn't make sense to me. Like, it just, I
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Speaker 5: sat there for, when it happened, I was like, but why?
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Speaker 5: But why? Now I'm like, I could not give a
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Speaker 5: fuck why.
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Speaker 1: Look, awful to have your trust betrayed like that.
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Speaker 2: But one thing I will never understand is why people,
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Speaker 2: in particular influencers, want to jump on their close friends
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Speaker 2: list and divulge all of this personal drama. Like if
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Speaker 2: I was pulled over by the police, I wouldn't want
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Speaker 2: to jump on my story and talk to my, you know,
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Speaker 2: 50 close friends about it.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want anyone to know about it. Look, I
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Speaker 1: thought the same thing. I would never do it, but
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Speaker 1: we've got to remember Sky Wheatley. She's been sharing her
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Speaker 1: life online for the past 10 plus years. She was
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Speaker 1: on Big Brother. She doesn't really have many inhibitions. And
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Speaker 1: I think that she's just so used to talking to
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Speaker 1: the camera and sort of venting on there that that's
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Speaker 1: probably why she did it.
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Speaker 2: It just doesn't make sense to me. Like, yeah, if
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Speaker 2: something bad like this happened, maybe I'd ring up my
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Speaker 2: mom or my best friend or you guys, but I
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Speaker 2: wouldn't really think I'm going to go on my story
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Speaker 2: and talk to my 50 close friends on Instagram.
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Speaker 1: I mean, particularly when so many influencers have been burnt.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we were only talking last week about Indie
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Speaker 1: Clinton opening up about that doghouse incident with her husband
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Speaker 1: and how someone from her close friends list leaked it
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Speaker 1: to an influencer watchdog account. It's kind of like when
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Speaker 1: influencers DM us. And they send us voice messages and,
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Speaker 1: I mean, luckily we are.
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Speaker 2: Very ethical and I would actually never, ever screen record
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Speaker 2: those to put on the show.
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Speaker 1: But sometimes you're like, God, they're handing you the material there.
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Speaker 1: There was an incident earlier this year where I'm like, God,
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Speaker 1: if we were unethical, this would have made absolute headlines.
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Speaker 1: But it seems like Sky is trying to put a
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Speaker 1: bit of a spin on this betrayal from a friend
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Speaker 1: because she said, She's no longer angry about the situation
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Speaker 1: and it's given her the wake up call she needed.
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Speaker 1: And she conceded that she had been spiraling and going
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Speaker 1: down the wrong path. And she teased that there was
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Speaker 1: a lot more to the story with this close friend,
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Speaker 1: but she won't be sharing it.
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Speaker 2: I really hope that that friend isn't Michael Finch because
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Speaker 2: we've recently spoken about how Sky and Michael have rekindled
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Speaker 2: their friendship.
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Speaker 1: They're following each other once again.
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Speaker 2: Could you imagine if this was all in a bid
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Speaker 2: to get on the close friends list just to kind.
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Speaker 1: Of reveal something. I'm a hundred percent confident it's not
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Speaker 1: Michael Finch. She actually referred to the person as a she.
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Speaker 2: I didn't think it was either, but just imagine how
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Speaker 2: classic that would be because they originally had that fight
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Speaker 2: because in Michael Finch's vlog, he included a conversation in
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Speaker 2: the car with Sky where she was talking about OnlyFans
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Speaker 2: creators and about how she would rather be an influencer
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Speaker 2: than take a vibrator to herself for money.
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Speaker 1: So imagine if he turned around and exposed something about her.
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Speaker 1: The way Sky spoke about it, I actually wouldn't be
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Speaker 1: surprised if it was someone in the industry, but not Michael.
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Speaker 1: On a more serious note, over the last week, Sky's
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Speaker 1: followers have been growing increasingly worried for her. So the
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Speaker 1: drunk driving charges come off the back of her breakup
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Speaker 1: with long-term boyfriend and baby daddy, Lockie Waugh. And on Wednesday,
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Speaker 1: before she put the full 14 minute debrief on her
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Speaker 1: Instagram story, she told her followers that she was at
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Speaker 1: a low point in her life and wants to escape,
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Speaker 1: but said it wasn't an option. Then in that 14-minute update,
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Speaker 1: she admitted that she's been manic and spoke about her
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Speaker 1: anxiety and depression. At points, it was actually quite difficult
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Speaker 1: to follow what she was saying because she was talking
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Speaker 1: in riddles and metaphors. The general gist was, though, that
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Speaker 1: she'd hit rock bottom and the only way was up
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Speaker 1: from here.
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Speaker 2: This is all very sad, and I understand that Sky
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Speaker 2: has a lot going on in the background, but drink
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Speaker 2: driving is a very serious offence with real-life consequences. There
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Speaker 2: are so many families whose lives will never be the
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Speaker 2: same again because a drink driver has taken a loved
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Speaker 2: one from them. And I just think it's very lucky
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Speaker 2: that Sky didn't injure herself or anyone else on the road.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I couldn't agree more. I do want to point
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Speaker 1: out that Sky was very remorseful in the quotes that
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Speaker 1: she gave the Daily Mail. She's also spoken about how
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Speaker 1: she's completing an online module for a therapy course that
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Speaker 1: she's been doing. And she said it was separate from
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Speaker 1: her own personal therapy. So it sounds like it could
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Speaker 1: be a mandatory course related to her drink driving charge.
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Speaker 1: And it does seem to be having a positive effect
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Speaker 1: on her because she said, It's finally made her realise
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Speaker 1: that she's been using alcohol to mask her pain and
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Speaker 1: as a coping mechanism since she was young. She also
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Speaker 1: said she now needs to learn how to sit in
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Speaker 1: her pain so she can stop being stuck in an
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Speaker 1: unhappy place. Presumably she's talking about her relationship with Lockie Waugh.
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Speaker 1: Is that how you took that?
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Speaker 2: I think it's safe to say yes. The breakup seemed
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Speaker 2: to be a long time coming and I think it
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Speaker 2: was six months ago when they initially announced their split,
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Speaker 2: but then Sky basically said they were back together because
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Speaker 2: she didn't want to sit in the pain of it
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Speaker 2: for too long.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So it kind of makes sense.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I wasn't sure if this next bit was
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Speaker 2: a potshot at Lockie or another family member, because while
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Speaker 2: she was talking about the course, she said she thought
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Speaker 2: of a few other people to send it to, but
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Speaker 2: then conceded the person in question's self-awareness, anxiety, depression, and
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Speaker 2: addiction is something for them to figure out when they're ready.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair to talk about someone else's
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Speaker 1: private mental health battles publicly like this. I think that
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Speaker 1: was unnecessary. One thing that's really stood out to me
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Speaker 1: is the fact that Sky is yet to actually directly
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Speaker 1: address the drink driving charge on her Instagram. So she's
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Speaker 1: spoken sort of in riddles about this incident that's happened,
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Speaker 1: but she's never actually said, oh, I've been charged with
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Speaker 1: drink driving. As I touched on, she has given an
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Speaker 1: interview to the Daily Mail about So she labelled her
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Speaker 1: actions as a really poor decision and said that she
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Speaker 1: was taking responsibility for her actions. She also said she
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Speaker 1: hoped speaking publicly about the incident would encourage others to
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Speaker 1: think twice about doing the same thing as her. Yet
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Speaker 1: she actually hasn't spoken publicly about it on her social media.
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Speaker 2: I'm guessing that would be because she's trying to avoid
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Speaker 2: as many sponsors as possible saying no.
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Speaker 1: The drink driving incident.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, and obviously a great sentiment, but the reality
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Speaker 1: is this is not Sky's first driving offence. So her
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Speaker 1: licence was actually suspended for nine months in 2013 after
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Speaker 1: she was charged with being under the influence of alcohol.
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Speaker 1: She lost her licence again in 2018, this time for
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Speaker 1: six months after she was caught speeding in a school zone.
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Speaker 1: Now that penalty was more serious. because she was on
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Speaker 1: a good behavior bond for another speeding offense. Now, at
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Speaker 1: the time, she actually addressed the incident in a YouTube video.
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Speaker 1: And wow, that was a blast from the past. Very
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Speaker 1: Tana Mongeau vibes. I think Matt Hay would have liked
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Speaker 1: this content. Let's take a listen to what she said.
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Speaker 7: So I lost my license six months ago. I literally
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Speaker 7: get my license back in two weeks. Hello, fucking Luya.
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Speaker 7: I'm literally so excited. I'm just going to get in
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Speaker 7: my car and I'm going.
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Speaker 5: To drive I'm going to fuck shit up. I'm going
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Speaker 5: to fuck the roads up.
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Speaker 7: But I'm going to obey all the rules because I
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Speaker 7: do not want to lose my license again. Obviously, I'm
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Speaker 7: literally not going to speed at all when I get
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Speaker 7: my license back.
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Speaker 5: I'm not even going to, like, break any of the
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Speaker 5: road rules. That's really the only road rule that I
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Speaker 5: continuously broke.
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Speaker 7: I'm just going to be very cautious when I'm back
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Speaker 7: on the roads because, obviously, one, I'll be a mum.
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Speaker 5: I'll have a baby in the car. Two.
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Speaker 4: I don't want to.
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Speaker 7: Lose my license again because it is so fucking depressing.
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Speaker 1: This is just a classic example of why Sky desperately
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Speaker 1: needs an editor or at least someone reviewing her content.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think this content is just indicative though
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Speaker 2: of what people were sharing in 2018 as we're going
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Speaker 2: back to all right, hey sentiment, people kept it a
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Speaker 2: lot more real. I mean, I definitely don't think that
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Speaker 2: we need people drink driving to keep things interesting on
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Speaker 2: social media.
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Speaker 1: No, we don't want that. My comment about the editing
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Speaker 1: was more about how Sky was like, oh, I'm not
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Speaker 1: going to break any of the road rules. That was
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Speaker 1: the only rule that I continuously broke. It's like, oh
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Speaker 1: my God.
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Speaker 2: Look, all jokes aside, this is a very serious matter.
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Speaker 2: If we take a look at the most recent drink
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Speaker 2: driving incident, it's quite disturbing because Sky actually uploaded a
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Speaker 2: video of her driving on the night that she got charged.
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Speaker 2: So in the video, she was driving around miming to
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Speaker 2: songs in her car. At one point, she took both
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Speaker 2: hands off the wheel to run her hands through her hair.
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Speaker 2: At another point, it looked like she swerved and wasn't
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Speaker 2: in full control of the car. If you look closely
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Speaker 2: at the vision, you can even see the golden arches
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Speaker 2: of McDonald's in the background.
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Speaker 1: So it appears that she was not only driving but
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Speaker 1: filming herself whilst under the influence. I just don't get
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Speaker 1: why influencers have to film themselves driving. It is so dangerous.
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Speaker 1: And then when you add alcohol in the mix, it
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Speaker 1: is a disaster waiting to happen. Sky's followers have actually
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Speaker 1: complained of other recent incidences where she's filmed herself in
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Speaker 1: the car. So two weeks ago, a Reddit user posted
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Speaker 1: a thread in Aussie Influencer Snark claiming that Sky had
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Speaker 1: uploaded an Instagram story talking about getting kicked out of
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Speaker 1: a bar. And in the vision, she appeared to be
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Speaker 1: slurring her words before she got behind the wheel of
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Speaker 1: her car. So it potentially may not be an isolated incident.
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Speaker 2: Well, she is set to appear in Southport's magistrate's court
17:46
Speaker 2: on the 24th of August. I'm sure there will be
17:48
Speaker 2: an absolute media storm around that one. It'll be interesting
17:51
Speaker 2: to see what penalties will apply. Queensland punishes repeat offenders
17:56
Speaker 2: much more harshly, which is a tough one because She
18:01
Speaker 2: has two young children now who.
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Speaker 1: She has to drive to school.
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Speaker 2: If they're having their kids, it appears to be half-time each.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't want to speculate on it, but
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Speaker 1: these sorts of charges don't really bode well if you
18:15
Speaker 1: are in a custody battle. At the moment, it appears
18:18
Speaker 1: that her and Lockie are quite amicable, but you never
18:20
Speaker 1: know what happens later down the track. Now, the maximum
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Speaker 1: licence disqualification rate is two years for drink driving. Skye
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Speaker 1: could also potentially face additional penalties, including a fine of
18:33
Speaker 1: up to $ 10, 326, as well as a maximum of six
18:36
Speaker 1: months imprisonment and a mandatory alcohol ignition interlock once she
18:41
Speaker 1: gets her license back. So some pretty hefty penalties there.
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Speaker 5: Mate, it is a beautiful Sunday.
18:47
Speaker 6: The sun is out.
18:48
Speaker 5: Can I suggest getting a hobby.
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Speaker 1: Instead of Over me all the time. You don't follow me,
18:55
Speaker 1: but you've left multiple comments now.
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Speaker 5: You're watching like.
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Speaker 2: A f * * * ing bork.
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Speaker 5: I would say that you are a Reddit rat without
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Speaker 5: a doubt.
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Speaker 1: Controversial influencer Sarah Mills has revealed she performed her own
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Speaker 1: Wagatha Christie style expose on her Reddit haters. The 38-year-old
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Speaker 1: released a fake baby name to catch out her trolls.
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Speaker 1: So before we get into the drama, can you bring
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Speaker 1: us up to speed with who Sarah is? Well, she
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Speaker 1: is a content creator who shares about motherhood. She is
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Speaker 1: a single mom.
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Speaker 2: She has just had her fourth child and she has
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Speaker 2: 30,000 followers on Instagram and 387,000 on TikTok. And she
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Speaker 2: has found herself in the center of quite a number
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Speaker 2: of controversies. So she is a well-known anti-vaxxer who previously
19:37
Speaker 2: declared that she would rather inject heroin than get the
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Speaker 2: COVID jab. She was also accused of comparing her limited
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Speaker 2: freedoms as an unvaccinated person to the Holocaust. So back
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Speaker 2: in 2020, 2021, Sarah uploaded a family photo showing her
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Speaker 2: and her kids all wearing yellow six pointed stars on
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Speaker 2: their chest. So she was trying to replicate the star
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Speaker 2: of David badges that Jewish people wear. living in Europe
20:03
Speaker 2: were forced to wear during World War II. So the
20:05
Speaker 2: badges were used to shame Jewish people, track them and
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Speaker 2: separate them from other people. And on the badges, Sarah wrote,
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Speaker 2: and she included the caption on Instagram, As of today,
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Speaker 2: I may no longer enter restaurants, cafes, theatres, cinemas, concerts, museums,
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Speaker 2: sporting events, pools, clothing stores or anything deemed non-essential. I
20:36
Speaker 2: live in regional New South Wales so we've been living
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Speaker 2: freely for a while now until today. Yesterday I was
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Speaker 2: safe to be in public, today I am a threat.
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Speaker 2: Now at the time she denied comparing lockdowns to the
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Speaker 2: Holocaust saying she merely wanted to highlight whether that them
20:52
Speaker 2: us situation began. Now in 2021 she was also charged
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Speaker 2: after an alleged incident at a subway at Coffs Harbour.
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Speaker 2: She was charged with assault as well as stalking and
21:03
Speaker 2: intimidation charges. The charges were later withdrawn in 2022 after
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Speaker 2: a year of legal battle.
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Speaker 1: So she has found herself in the headlines quite a lot. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and I suppose that gives some context as to why
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Speaker 1: she has such a active Reddit thread because she is
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Speaker 1: very divisive. Now, as we touched on, she recently had
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Speaker 1: her fourth child. She admitted that she was a little
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Speaker 1: bit nervous about the age gap because her eldest is
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Speaker 1: 16 and then she's got a 13-year-old and a nine-year-old.
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Speaker 1: But she said she's always dreamt of having a big family,
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Speaker 1: so she ended up taking the plunge to have her
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Speaker 1: fourth son on her own. Now, throughout the pregnancy, she's
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Speaker 1: been dropping baby name clues here and there. Her other
21:44
Speaker 1: children have quite unique names, so she's got a Hendrix,
21:47
Speaker 1: a Monroe, and a Morrison. So Clearly she was going
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Speaker 1: to name the baby something a little bit out there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and because she has been dropping all of these clues,
21:55
Speaker 2: there's a real thirst to know what the name is.
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Speaker 1: Like, you know when influencers really build it up? Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And last week she revealed that she had actually performed
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Speaker 2: her own Wagatha Christie-style expose on her Reddit haters. So
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Speaker 2: for those who aren't across the story, Wagatha Christie is
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Speaker 2: the nickname of a very public British celebrity feud between
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Speaker 2: football wags Colleen Rooney and Rebecca Vardy.
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Speaker 1: For those who aren't across it, they need to watch
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Speaker 1: the doco. I think it's on Amazon Prime because it
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Speaker 1: is so juicy. Colleen Rooney thought that someone was leaking
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Speaker 1: her private information to the press. It turned out that
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Speaker 1: it was another wag called Rebecca Vardy and it was sensational.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because Colleen started planting fake stories about herself on
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Speaker 2: a close friend's list to try and see who took
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Speaker 2: the bait and reported it to the press. Now, Sarah
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Speaker 2: has taken inspiration from this story and she released a
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Speaker 2: fake baby name on her Instagram story. So she shared
22:53
Speaker 2: a photo of her new baby in hospital and she
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Speaker 2: doctored the little name card above. So it read Western Trump.
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Speaker 1: Bit of rage baiting going on, naming your kid after
23:05
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Definitely.
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Speaker 2: Now, she left the post up for only a few
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Speaker 2: minutes before deleting it, but it gave her enough time
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Speaker 2: to take a screenshot of the names that saw it.
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Speaker 2: And as expected, it wasn't long before the baby name
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Speaker 2: appeared on her Reddit thread. Now, Sarah said she kept
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Speaker 2: an eye on who commented the name in the thread
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Speaker 2: and also took note on who would comment the name
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Speaker 2: on her Instagram posts. And this was her way of
23:29
Speaker 2: whittling down who was involved in the Reddit thread. A
23:32
Speaker 2: couple of days later, she revealed the baby's real name,
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Speaker 2: announcing it first on her subs channels. So the real
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Speaker 2: name is Denver Lior Mills.
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Speaker 1: I mean, a lot nicer. I'm not a massive fan
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Speaker 1: of unusual baby names, but I have a soft spot
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Speaker 1: for Denver. It was my favorite character from Money Heist.
23:49
Speaker 1: So much better than Western Trump.
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Speaker 2: I remember throwing this around as a possible dog name.
23:52
Speaker 2: So I was quite keen on this name too. Now
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Speaker 2: the real name then popped up on Reddit, which revealed
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Speaker 2: to Sarah that one of her Reddit haters is.
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Speaker 1: Actually a subscriber. Of course they are, because it's a
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Speaker 1: fact that often your biggest haters are the ones that
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Speaker 1: actually most tuned into what you're doing.
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Speaker 2: When you look at the psychology behind it, it's interesting
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Speaker 2: to think that someone who hates you that much is
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Speaker 2: willing to pay to see your content.
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Speaker 1: It's pretty disturbing, really. Now, strangely, Sarah.
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Speaker 2: Dealt with this leak by blocking all of the 89
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Speaker 2: subscribers who saw the post.
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Speaker 1: That's losing quite a bit of revenue for her. How
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Speaker 1: many subscribers does she even have on Instagram?
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Speaker 2: Well, I think it was actually on her TikTok subscription.
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Speaker 2: When I clicked on it, it said she had like
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Speaker 2: 39 subscribers. So Maybe that's because she's blocked the other 89.
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Speaker 1: A bit of a strange move. I know we said
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Speaker 1: that your trolls are often the people who are most
24:41
Speaker 1: engaged with their content. And, you know, presumably some of
24:44
Speaker 1: those 89 people are feeding her content back to Reddit.
24:47
Speaker 1: But what about the ones that genuinely like her and
24:49
Speaker 1: have been paying money to subscribe to her?
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Speaker 2: Well, the reality is she's probably now got 88 new
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Speaker 2: people who are.
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Speaker 1: Going to go and join the Reddit thread. Exactly right.
24:58
Speaker 1: That's the irony of the whole thing.
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Speaker 2: It's quite interesting because as soon as she announced the
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Speaker 2: real baby name, people started asking her if she changed
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Speaker 2: the name due to the original leg. There was a
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Speaker 2: lot of confusion over this name. So she wrote on
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Speaker 2: her stories, And no, I did not change his name
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Speaker 2: because people found out. I just wanted to have a
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Speaker 2: laugh at how fucking gullible.
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Speaker 1: These Reddit rats are.
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Speaker 2: She added also, apart from proving how moronic Reddit users
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Speaker 2: are with the fake name, I also took note of
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Speaker 2: which of you still keep running to comment his name
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Speaker 2: everywhere the second you saw it and then following when
25:30
Speaker 2: I said don't leak it.
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Speaker 1: It's been a fun experiment all around.
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Speaker 2: But thanks to the haters for the money, because all
25:35
Speaker 2: the money I got will be going to pay for
25:37
Speaker 2: this mama to get a massage, get her hair done,
25:39
Speaker 2: a facial... And all the things to give me a
25:42
Speaker 2: pampered day. Appreciate it with a laughing face.
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Speaker 1: Look, I know at the start of this episode, we
25:46
Speaker 1: were saying we want influencers to be more interesting. And
25:48
Speaker 1: this definitely is interesting. But it does rub me up
25:51
Speaker 1: the wrong way when influencers then take it really personally.
25:54
Speaker 1: It's like you baited people. You wanted this attention around
25:58
Speaker 1: the baby name. You've been dropping baby name clues. So
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Speaker 1: why are you so offended when people are actually talking
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Speaker 1: about your baby name?
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Speaker 2: She definitely hasn't been as clever as Colleen Rooney either
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Speaker 2: because Colleen was able to whittle it down to one
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Speaker 2: person who was leaking the information about her, whereas her
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Speaker 2: approach seems to be like, I'm just going to block
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Speaker 2: a whole load of you because you might be the
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Speaker 2: Reddit user.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, okay, well, one of the 89 of
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Speaker 1: you did it, so I'm just going to punish all
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Speaker 1: of you. Sarah has a really interesting relationship with her, quote,
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Speaker 1: haters and also with Reddit because she and fellow influencer
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Speaker 1: Tegan Deville, as well as Carly Moussa, claimed that they
26:37
Speaker 1: had identified the person behind Australian TikTok's snark, as well
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Speaker 1: as its moderators. That was earlier this year. Now, the
26:44
Speaker 1: women claim that they spent three years investigating the page
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Speaker 1: and the subreddit got shut down. Since then, similar pages
26:52
Speaker 1: have popped right back up.
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Speaker 2: Well, on that note, I think that is all we
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