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F1 2025 Chinese GP Recap & Japanese GP Preview - Fast Laps with the Boys · Banter with the Boys

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laced up let's go it's time for banter with the
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boys welcome back to banter with the boys fast
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laps a show in which i may owe lance stroll an
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apology i don't know but anyway mike thanks for
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being back here this week brother what's up I
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always go to Joe first. You're throwing a wrench
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in my plans here. You're catching me so off guard.
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I'm great. I'm happy to be here. I'm happy to
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talk about F1. What plans did you have? Were
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you going to beat up Joe? Joe's on his phone.
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He no longer cares about the pod. We didn't need
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him anyway. Joe, what's going on, brother? My
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mom's going to come pick me up. You guys are
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being mean to me. Mom, come pick me up. I'm scared.
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Dang, that was nice. That was such a crazy...
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Before we started recording, the energy is already
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wild in this room. It's unnecessary. I mean,
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it's worth talking about. So I'm looking forward
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to talking about that, among other things, from
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the previous Chinese Grand Prix and looking forward
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to Japan. I love Japan. Very much looking forward
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to Japan. Maybe a certain Japanese driver on
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a different team for that. Same team but different?
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I don't know. Anyway, Kev also behind the scenes
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getting everything done. Just heads up right
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now, we do not have a show next week because
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Japanese GP is not this weekend but the following.
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So next week we are actually going to be testing
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some other things for the show to enhance your...
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Listening and watching, viewing. We are a podcast.
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Is that what we're doing? Technically, the test
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is just viewing. No, there is an audio test involved.
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You're right. There is an audio test involved.
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We are going to bring something different. Anyway,
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that's next week. So anyway, the week after that,
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which is right after the Japanese GP, which you're
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used to hearing from us, right after the GPs,
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we will be back to talk about Yuki Tsunoda winning
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in Japan. I mean, I saw in a Red Bull. I wish.
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That'd be so cool. Things are just starting to
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spill out. So Kev, why don't we just head right
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into the China GP recap? Recap! We're back. I'm
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going to take about 20 % off. Right there. I'm
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just feeling it today. Let's take about 20 %
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off. Oh, man. It's been a long day at work, and
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here we are. We're just happy to be back. Happy
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to talk some F1. Happy to talk about this Chinese
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GP. But we had a sprint. A sprint. All right.
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I just had to do it one more time. A sprint,
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though. Yeah? The first sprint of the year. Do
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you like sprints? I think they're pretty fun,
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actually. You get a little bit of action for
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half the time. It definitely throws the weekend
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into a little bit of a mix. I don't like they
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don't get as much practice. And practice where
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they probably could have used it because of newly
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resurfaced track. Really, really grippy. A lot.
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We saw in practice one, I feel like there were
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a couple people that went off. Definitely a couple
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of mishaps in the sprint itself. And a Red Bull
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in last place again in both the race quality
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and the sprint quality. Should I say typical?
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Ooh, do you dare? Do you dare? I know. I've established
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my disdain for Liam. I think that's okay. I can
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say typical. Man, typical. Ouch. All right, well,
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we'll touch on Liam in a little bit because we
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have a lot to say. But Lewis wins the sprint.
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And then also in the sprint shootout, sets a
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track record. He does. I did not expect to see
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that. This is, yeah, the overall track record.
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Right, right. That is something I did not expect
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or anticipate to see this weekend for sure. But,
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I mean, again, we'll touch on Ferrari in a little
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bit as far as the GP goes. But they didn't do
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all that bad. And then it all went bad after
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the race, post -race. But it is what it is, I
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think. Okay, I'm just going to get into it. But
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anyway. Just kind of staying on the sprint for
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a second, Lewis dominated. He didn't lose a place.
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I think Ferrari proved what they are capable
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of. You set a track record. You still got to
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be fast for that. And you did that with the guy
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who's only driving the car for his second weekend.
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The fact that the guy in his second weekend took
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that win. Also, I think this was a big thing
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for both him and other people looking in that
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was coming off of um the melbourne gp and his
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performance in that grand prix which wasn't fabulous
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he comes in and the first thing he does is goes
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in and wins a sprint and says guess what guys
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i'm still lewis hamilton yeah no 100 in front
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in case you guys forgot in front of a crowd that
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really really loves lewis no matter what team
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he's racing for now they're all wearing red this
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year yeah they do love china loves they do love
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ferrari but they also really love lewis yeah
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it's just a match made in heaven match made in
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heaven for that fun fans in china um But moving
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on to the GP quality, Joe, I know you said you
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had just a couple notes, nothing too wild. Yeah,
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I already mentioned Lawson, a Red Bull qualifying
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last. V -Carb looked really strong in qualifying.
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Oscar's first pole position. You know what? V
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-Carb looked really strong in the race, too.
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And we'll get to why they did not finish strong.
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Hamilton took lap record in his sprint quali.
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Oscar took lap record in his GP quali. So I believe
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Oscar holds that overall record. That being said,
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just kind of doing a little bit of foreshadowing.
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race record uh still being held 2004 michael
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schumacher so that has not been broken i think
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we were still like four seconds off of that pace
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so i think no i think i saw that we were getting
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like uh i think fastest lap was a one i think
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fastest lap was like a 135 oh if i remember correctly
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i can check and if i remember correctly michael
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schumacher is Michael Schumacher's fastest lap
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is 132 and some change. I don't remember the
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details of that one, but I remember seeing 132
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and being like, really? So you're thinking not
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four seconds. Not four seconds. Close. Joe is
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going to fact check me, and I appreciate that
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because I hate being wrong. I got you. Maybe
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our hold music should be the Max Verstappen music.
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Instead of that or instead of Jeopardy. Like
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moved into. elevator music a little bit oh man
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i have an audio background we'll figure it out
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we should continue on it's gonna take me a second
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okay we're gonna continue on then and talk about
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the gp i think sounds good to me uh mclaren sweeping
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i mean yeah p1 p2 i mean and they looked they
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looked really really dominant until the last
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lap yes that was a little awkward that's fine
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but they They were still extremely dominant last
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week and this week, and honestly, it's starting
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to feel a little bit like... This is wild. It's
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not there yet, but it's starting to feel like
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the 2022 Red Bulls a little bit. Just their pure
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dominance over everybody else. Now, don't get
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me wrong, I'm also going to say in a little bit
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something about Mercedes and Ferrari both, but
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it is way too early to say it, but... It is becoming
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eerily similar to pure dominance. I don't think
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it's quite the same. Because they would have
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been 1 -2 last week in 2. I think their car is
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probably close to as dominant as that Red Bull
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was at the time. Like, it's just a much faster
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car. But with all love and respect to your team,
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neither driver is Max Verstappen. No, you're
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totally right. Neither driver is Max Verstappen,
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and I cannot deny that. And it's hard. It's hard
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to say that they were as dominant because that
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Red Bull was consistently 20 seconds ahead. Which
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is fair. And McLaren is getting there. Team -wise.
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McLaren is getting there, but is that a fault
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of their car or of their drivers? Not meeting
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Max's insane potential in a car, right? Well,
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it's definitely the fastest car on the grid right
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now. Hands down. Yeah. But is it as is it as
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dominant as, you know, Red Bull? I mean, I guess
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it's way too early. It's all like, you know,
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it's all comparative. Yeah. It's all comparative
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to other cars in the grid, too, because I'm sure
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the McLaren now is more dominant than that Red
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Bull. But compared to the rest of the grid, they're
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not right. Right. They're still there, but not
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as dominant. Yeah. Now, not straight dominance,
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but it's I mean, if they do it again this weekend,
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I'm going to stand on it. You know, don't get
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me wrong. There's all year to make improvements.
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And again, I got some things to say about Mercedes
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and Ferrari. Both. They're going to be battling
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for sure at some point very soon. Stricter back
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wing, stricter wing rules coming to affect Japan.
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So maybe they're not as fast anymore. Maybe maybe
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it kind of slows them down slightly. That's definitely
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a big footnote to keep an eye on this. I think
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that I heard next week. I did think that I heard
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that McLaren came out and said that after the
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debacle last season that they kind of laid off
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the flexi -wing idea and focused on their development
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in other areas. They do have something of a flexi
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-wing because I think pretty much all the teams
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do to some regard at this point. But it wasn't
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like a major development point for them. So they
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were saying they're like, sure, the FIA can come
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in and do these checks and do whatever they need
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to and we think we'll be fine. So... McLaren
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is still feeling relatively confident in spite
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of that change. So that's great for them and
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probably not the news that all the rest of the
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teams wanted to hear. Well, and speaking of confidence,
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I mean, right out of the gate, it was just pure
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insanity. Excuse me. Oscar very aggressively,
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you know, trying to cut off George Russell. If
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I was George, I would have absolutely shat myself.
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But George was quickly running out of track.
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I mean, he was going to touch that wall. But
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just Oscar's move right off the line, to me,
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I mean, oh, man. It was good. It was good. For
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sure. No, it's exactly what you need to do. But,
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again, like, between him and Lando, it's going
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to be hard for either one to win the WDC, in
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my opinion. Like, hold on. Sorry, reset me for
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a second. It's going to be hard to pinpoint which
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one of them could win. For sure. Or it's going
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to be hard for them to win in general. I still
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think somebody else is going to win. I do. Because
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they're just going to keep flip -flopping wins.
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Listen to me. So if a third driver can get in
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there, like Charles, and start winning some races,
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or George at this point. But again, Mercedes,
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it's early in the season. Don't get me started.
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We'll get there very soon. But I don't know.
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I don't know. I think that's going to become
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a problem. I unfortunately don't win constructors.
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I think at the moment, if they can, they continue
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to be this consistent. I think McLaren can win
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constructors, but I think WDC is going to be
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harder for a McLaren driver to win because they're
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both can be good, be hand in hand, either, you
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know, any race. It's, it's, it's literally, but
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another driver would have to start, you know,
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being consistent right now. It's only George,
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but he can't catch the McLarens right now. You
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know, you're right. It is like a, yeah, it's.
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A coin flip. It's going to be interesting to
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watch. Which one could get ahead like Oscar is.
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Would that be weird for McLaren if Oscar wins
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one first? I feel like that'll cause literal
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psychic damage to Landon Morris. I feel like
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if Landon's driving this car, has been driving
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it for so long, and then his teammate shows up,
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drives for three years, and wins a championship.
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That's what I mean. I wonder if that would cause
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a rift for next season, or if we just see. pure
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chaos between the two all next season oh my we're
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gonna see it this year i'm telling you something's
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gonna happen we're all buddy buddy teammate teammate
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right now but they're both gonna want it so bad
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that something's gonna happen and again like
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now this is a different situation but you know
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a danny rick and max you know that short battle
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that was had you know on the same team that's
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what i envision i hope not there's a reason why
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oscar signed another signed a multi -year deal
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to stay, so you would think he's in it for the
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team game, right? But at some point, he wants
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to win a WDC, and he is more aggressive than
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Lando, in my opinion. I agree. And I think that
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could be the edge of him beating out Lando for
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a WDC. That's interesting. I do think Oscar's
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more aggressive. I need more races to make that
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determination. I think we're out of the game.
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Three years. The last two years, you could still
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see the rookie in him. You could still see the
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refinement that he needed. I have not seen those
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issues this year yet from him. He's been driving
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solidly. Granted, Australia, that's kind of a
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wash. It was just a really bad position to be
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in. And he would have finished two, though. That's
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the thing. 100%. And again, more of that rookie
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mistake coming out by over. correcting right
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yep so from our expert analysis of the situation
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i am an expert yeah yeah for sure uh yeah i feel
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like i just need a few more races to really really
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see if he is aggressive lando's fixed his starts
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so i'm pretty sure we'll probably still see one
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or two starts where he's messing up but he's
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started really well to argue his point and to
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kind of loop back to what we brought up earlier
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the start from oscar Almost perfectly mirrors
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the start that we saw from Lewis in the sprint
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where Lewis, the first thing he did is he started
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and he caught immediately to the right, cut off
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Max Verstappen. And then we look back at the
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GP and we see Oscar. They come off the line and
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the first thing Oscar does, I'm going to cover
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off George Russell. I see that less as an aggressive
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move and more as the move you need to take. I
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just think the way Oscar went about it is aggressive.
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I would agree. If anyone is in that position
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and they get a good start off the line, they're
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going to do that. They have to. Or else they
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lose a spot because it's inside. But just the
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way he went about it, though, for me, it's just
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not the first time he's been aggressive, though.
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Towards the end of last season, Oscar was getting
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super aggressive and taking chances he wasn't
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taking earlier in the season, getting more comfortable
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in the car. In his own skill level. And I just,
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I don't know. I think it's. He was getting into
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a little bit of trouble last season. For sure.
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End of last season. For sure. By being too risky.
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Yep. But you got to take risks to win championships
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is what it feels like. And that's what old Max
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Verstappen has been doing. That is what Max does.
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I think. I'm not saying he's driving just like
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Max Verstappen, but there's flashes where you're
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like, whoa. I was thinking about this while I
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was on lunch earlier and I was like, I really
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feel like Lando has this very different. like
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way that he's taking on these races where he
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just is generally less aggressive i see him like
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he he isn't going for these big lunges that you
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see other drivers doing as consistently but he's
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taking his time and he's waiting for the opportunity
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and he's taking these tires further than other
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drivers are and he's kind of playing this longer
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game where he's like i'm not gonna do something
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crazy and get ahead of you right now but those
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tires are gonna go out mine won't And he's got
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that confidence that he takes it further and
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he plays this very methodical game. Because he
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knows their cards fast. He is very patient right
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now. Exactly. Which has been fun to watch. It
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is more methodical. Yeah. As opposed to somebody
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like Max Verstappen who says, look. I'm going
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to put it up the inside line, and if you've got
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a problem with it, here's my side pod. Or back
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out. Or back out. We're going to play chicken,
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and I will win. And I will win. You will fear
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the sight of Max Verstappen in your mirror. So
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I think that's kind of where those two differ.
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Lando has matured in that sense, though. He is
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waiting more for the right opportunity, which
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is enjoyable if you like that sort of racing.
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Again, if you like banging and booming, this
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isn't the place for that. Now, if you like playing
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chess, this is chess right here on a racetrack.
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And Lando is winning the chess part of it. Yep.
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For sure. Oscar's playing chess like me, just
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going for it and whatever. Anyway. I think I'm
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realizing as we're talking about this, I'm too
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sensitive about the McLaren boys. I just don't
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want to assume. I'm getting offended. I could
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probably sit here all day and make assumptions
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about the rest of the drivers. I think we got
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to keep in mind, just for everything, and this
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is for me too, we're on race two. 100%. Right.
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You are correct. But we have a podcast to hold
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on to. You're totally right. We got to talk about
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it. You're totally right. We got to generate
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stories. And for that, I'm going to say Lance
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Stroll, man. WBC this year. Not WBC. That's my
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man, of course. Oh, Dick Boyle. No, I think I
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do see your point, and you're right. Lando 100
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% is not being like, he's not going for the move
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right away. It was a little hard for him. him
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i think he was struggling with the car during
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the race so it wasn't easy for him to make it
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and the car just outlasted the other cars around
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him and that's when he made his his points but
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um you're right uh oscar i think just in general
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has been a bit more aggressive so i'm i'm looking
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forward to seeing if that if that continues and
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when it comes to who's wdc i mean oscar definitely
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can't be counted out no yeah right uh charles
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needs to step up we'll talk about charlie hey
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he We'll wait. We'll wait. Anyway, we do got
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to move on, though. Mercedes, we'll be talking
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about McLaren all year, I reckon. But Mercedes,
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George getting P3, Kimi. With the P6 after the
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DQs, but Kimi with the P6. Driver of the day
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as well. For some reason. As soon as it popped
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up, I was like, why? Again, back to your point,
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he should have been driver of the day last week.
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It was just delayed from the weekend prior. Everyone
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was like, oh crap, I was supposed to vote for
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Kimi last weekend. We'll give it to him this
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weekend. We'll give it to him this weekend. Man,
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Oscar should have gotten driver of the day last
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weekend. We'll give it to him in Japan. He didn't
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have to, but we'll give it to him. it to him
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yeah right right uh yeah even he on the radio
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said i don't lie to why why did that happen he's
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like i don't know why i got it but again two
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races in like we've already stated so this is
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really i'm not even grabbing the tinfoil hat
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for this but mercedes you know with you know
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antonelli is becoming a dark horse to fight for
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that second spot in constructors i i still think
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it'd be challenging to catch mclaren if you're
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mercedes but It's becoming a real possibility
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when you start looking at the second drivers.
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No offense to Lewis. I do consider him the second
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driver at Ferrari today, right now. But Kimi's
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performing right now. And again, two races in.
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Mercedes also, again, performs a lot better at
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the beginning of the seasons compared to, say...
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Like the last couple of seasons, it feels like
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Mercedes comes out the gate fairly hot and then
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they kind of trickle off and then they kind of
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pick up after break a little bit. Yeah, we've
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seen them, I think, go both ways where in the
19:38
start they'll either that they they become strong
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or become weak. I feel like we've seen them both
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ways. But George, incredibly consistent. I would
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not have ever put him in in two podiums in a
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row right out of the bat, right out of the gate,
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right off the bat. Yeah, I think. I definitely
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see him – I don't see him, unfortunately, fighting
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for wins, but I see him definitely consistently
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fighting for podiums. I think he wins at least
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one this year. Oh, 100%. I'm not – yeah, I'm
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not – but I'm saying consistently fighting for
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wins? Probably not. I think that's just going
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to go to naturally the McLarens. Well, until
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they start wrecking each other, right? Yes. Oh,
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God, don't. If they start wrecking each other.
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That's what I'm talking about, fellas. I don't
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want to get back to McLaren. I do want to bring
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up – you said – Hamilton is the number two driver.
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And I was like, isn't Hamilton leading in WDC
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right now? And he is ahead of Charles Leclerc
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by one point. That's fine. That doesn't make
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him the number one driver. We'll get to why I
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think Charles is going to be the number one driver.
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So wait, are you saying Lance Stroll is the lead
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driver? Look, I mean, numbers are numbers. Numbers
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are numbers. He keeps coming up, boys. Because
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Lance is definitely over a lot of points, Sonny.
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I think we said that Lance Stroll was going to
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be WDC this year. So that's like. I didn't say
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that. Did you say that? I'm sorry. I take that
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back. I think it was Joe that made the joke that
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Lance is just going to wake up this year. Like,
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I'm just going to start driving. And so far,
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it feels like that's exactly what's going on.
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He hasn't made. I don't think he's made really
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any mistakes. that I can remember at the moment.
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No, seriously. We might as well just mention
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Aston real quick. Yeah, let's do it. Lance is
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not Lansing. No, no. Like he's becoming Sir Lance
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a lot in a way instead. Like, wait, did he die?
21:29
Like a horrible death or was he successful? Did
21:32
we put somebody else in the car and just pretend
21:33
that he's Lance? Take off your helmet. Take off
21:36
it. No, but I mean. No, I can't. Last week again,
21:40
the anomaly. What did we call it? The something
21:42
anomaly. I can't remember what we called it.
21:43
The race anomaly. Yeah, it was just. Oh, yeah,
21:45
I see. Wet, wet. Yeah. Anomaly wet. Anomaly wet
21:49
is what we kept saying. But so he did well there
21:51
given the circumstances. Yes, obviously he gained
21:55
a couple with the DQs. He wouldn't have gotten
22:00
points without those. But he is battling right
22:04
there, though, with everybody else. He is fighting,
22:07
and he was notably in the sprint holding Lando
22:11
Norris. He was. Pretty much the entire sprint.
22:13
No, he wasn't. You mentioned this, and he was
22:16
not holding Lando. Lando was not catching him.
22:19
Okay, well. Lando himself was not catching him.
22:22
He was holding a pace ahead of Lando until his
22:26
tires started going out. But once Lando caught
22:28
up to him, he overtook him. Yes, pretty handily.
22:31
Yes, you are correct. But he was. You're right.
22:33
He was not. He was not. He was keeping the pace.
22:36
Yes. So. He's not losing time. It's better than
22:38
I would have expected out of a Lance Stroll.
22:42
Sorry. But no, no, that was great. I apologize.
22:45
No, it's all good. Are you okay? Hey, it's fine.
22:48
Since we're on Aston, just bring up, rest in
22:50
peace, Fernando Alonso. He's not dead. Why? We
22:53
gotta stop saying this. Yeah, we gotta stop saying
22:54
that. That's my point. We gotta stop acting like
22:56
these people are dying. I said rest in peace
22:58
in the moment I did it. I was like, why did I
23:00
say that? Pour one out for a man. He's my favorite
23:04
rookie on the track. A rookie gone too soon.
23:08
No, but Alonso retiring for a precautionary.
23:11
brake issue how did he do in the sprint was he
23:15
he wasn't no not he was struggling okay we need
23:18
to see him he's got a rough start to the race
23:20
so we can properly see where the acid martin
23:23
is because i don't think it's it's definitely
23:24
not the best car but it's also not the worst
23:26
but if stroll is able to start he's i mean he's
23:29
competing just fine with quote unquote the best
23:31
of the rest so yeah i mean you'd argue fernando
23:34
should be finishing p6 p7 pretty consistently
23:38
if he can get a good drive yeah in theory right
23:42
yeah uh let's see so we just kind of jumped around
23:45
a little bit so let's go back up to red bull
23:47
we don't need to spend a ton of time well we
23:49
got to spend a little bit on liam uh but max
23:52
finishing p4 liam p12 after the dqs uh max again
23:57
just driving the crap out of the car you know
24:00
doing what he's got to do uh but liam So, what's
24:06
the news that you guys have heard? Obviously,
24:07
there's rumors out there. I did put them in news.
24:10
Do we just want to talk about Liam? 100%. We
24:12
might as well. It's going to come up. It has
24:15
not been confirmed by Formula One, by himself,
24:19
by Red Bull. It has not been confirmed. However...
24:21
Has Twitter confirmed it? There are multiple
24:24
news sources saying that from paddock sources...
24:30
Yuki will be taking his spot for the Japan Grand
24:33
Prix. We're a paddock source. I don't know about
24:35
that. You can trust us. We're a couple hundred
24:38
thousand miles away. Why aren't you inviting
24:41
me to the paddock? We're there every week. You're
24:44
there. Trust me. You just don't remember. I must
24:46
be getting really drunk. That's interesting.
24:54
If it does happen, cool, get Liam back in the
24:57
car that he should have been in and put Yuki
24:59
in the car that he should have been in. And then
25:01
you can start liking Liam again. And then I can
25:02
keep disliking Liam until we get rid of Liam
25:06
and put Danny back in the car. Oh, excuse me.
25:09
What was that? That's crazy. Oh, my gosh. I'm
25:10
sorry. I don't know what happened to me there.
25:11
If Danny comes back, it'll be in a Cadillac,
25:13
buddy. Oh, boy. Yeah, so, yeah, Yuki, I'm excited
25:18
to see. Maybe Yuki drives better. No, ESPN reported
25:21
an hour ago. Red Bull to replace Lawson with
25:25
Sonoda. Let's find somebody more reliable than
25:27
ESPN about F1. Formula One. Planet F1, Red Bull,
25:30
make Liam Lawson decision with announcement expected.
25:32
That was three hours ago. Yeah. I mean, it's
25:35
incredibly possible it doesn't happen. We saw
25:37
it with Checo. We saw the same thing happen with
25:40
Checo and him being booted out, and it didn't
25:42
happen until the end of the season. So ESPN is
25:45
probably reporting the news sources that you
25:47
saw. It's saying Dutch newspapers. Yes. The Telegraph
25:51
and De Limburger. I definitely said that wrong,
25:54
probably. Isn't that what Colin said? Would swap
25:57
seats with... Yeah, I think so. He sent... I
26:01
can't remember. I can't remember. So I was going
26:03
to come to this pod after watching the China
26:05
GP and ask, how many more races does Liam get
26:08
before they swap them? And that answer was pretty
26:10
much... I actually think because of all the sources,
26:15
or rather because of everyone reporting it, it's...
26:17
it's pretty likely to happen. And I think we're
26:19
actually going to see a message within the next
26:21
couple of days that it's going to happen. You
26:22
think so? I think so. Um, but if, if this is
26:27
just all guffaw and it's not real, it looks like
26:30
ESPN just trying to be ahead of the game. Yeah.
26:31
They're saying reports are stated. They're not,
26:34
no one's, no one's site, but it's on. No one
26:36
is confirmed. Um, if it doesn't happen, how much
26:40
more can Red Bull handle this? Like, like, is
26:43
this his last race? If he does not. if he does
26:46
not get points is is yuki for sure in like what
26:49
do you guys think like what is what is their
26:50
breaking point yeah liam needs to you need to
26:52
score yeah you need to score points yes the car
26:55
is hard to drive we know that yes max verstappen's
26:57
a multi wdc champion we know but you got to score
27:01
points choco was scoring points in the car he
27:03
was you know you got to at least be scoring points
27:06
right now that's it that's like bottom line dude
27:09
we gave there's a reason why we put you in the
27:11
red bull instead of yuki instead of isaac which
27:14
wasn't an option per se but you know we put you
27:17
in the car you have to be scoring points and
27:20
yuki sanada has been driving outstanding he got
27:22
screwed over by strategy this race we'll touch
27:25
on that might as well touch on that here in a
27:26
minute but yeah it's uh I feel like Checo and
27:32
all of his fans right now are just sitting with
27:35
the smuggest looks on their face. Like, we told
27:38
you there was a problem with the car. That's
27:39
why Checo will be back in F1. And you all said
27:41
that Checo was the problem. He will be back in
27:44
F1. I do actually agree. There's no tinfoil hat
27:46
here. I do actually agree with him. I think we
27:47
will see Checo in Cadillac next year. I agree.
27:54
Sorry, you guys are messing with my brain. I
27:57
don't know why we're talking about Cadillac right
27:58
now. I don't know. It's not going to be. It's
28:01
not going to be Checo. It just won't be. It's
28:03
not going to be Checo and it's not going to be
28:04
Danny Rick. I can tell you that. I agree. It
28:06
won't be Danny. Neither of them are going to
28:08
be racing next year in F1. It will be. What do
28:11
you got? This is in relation to Red Bull and
28:14
Racing Bulls. We probably should just mention
28:16
them next because we're already talking about
28:18
them. But Marco. Oh, I know what you're going
28:21
to bring up. I want to get your sole reaction
28:24
to this. Yes, math could finish the season at
28:28
Racing Bulls as the V -Carbo 2 looks faster than
28:31
the RB21. Quit talking, dude. No way. Our boy
28:36
Helmut Marco. Helmut said that? Helmut said that.
28:39
No way. Yeah, this guy should not be allowed
28:42
to talk to news sources. This dude is yapping.
28:44
Come on, Grandpa. Let's bring you back to bed.
28:46
Come on. Yeah, yeah, it's time. Y 'all insane,
28:49
that sounds. I can't. Old man yells at clouds,
28:52
you know? It's crazy, dude. God, that'd be, that'd
28:56
be something. I do, okay, I do want to point
28:57
out one thing. So, like, we've talked a lot about.
29:01
the one team having four cars thing right i'm
29:04
trying to seriously imagine that it brings up
29:07
serious i'm sorry i'll let you finish your point
29:09
so like we've talked a lot about the uh one team
29:12
having four cars thing right and i have kind
29:14
of turned a blind eye to like them being the
29:17
development team you know vcar being you know
29:21
the rookie team but now that The rookie team
29:24
is maybe faster than you. You can't just go move
29:27
your lead driver to the faster car. Why can't
29:30
you? Because now I'm quite literally. Why can't
29:32
you? I have four cars. Yeah, right. So why can't
29:34
you? At this point. And doing it mid -season.
29:36
Like, maybe if you're like, boy. We're two races
29:37
in. Where's our logo? Our logo's on the car,
29:40
though. At this point, if you're like, oh, well,
29:42
you know. It's a white Red Bull. The V car looks
29:43
faster. We'll move Max next season. Sugar -free
29:46
Red Bull. That's fine, right? Because that's
29:48
a lot. Oh, so yeah, this gets me heated, too.
29:52
Yeah, I agree with you. I don't like it. I think
29:54
I talked about it at length last season. I ranted
29:56
last season. it's a team with four cars on the
30:00
grid and you can't you can't like defend it no
30:02
you can't defend it yes you you bring newer drivers
30:05
into that lower team so they can prove themselves
30:07
and then maybe move them up just so you can swap
30:10
them back down because the the main car is actually
30:12
the issue all along and you built a car for a
30:16
once in a lifetime driver yep right and no one
30:19
can live up to that yep the idea that max or
30:27
stavin could even would no just no i want them
30:33
to put max in a v -car just for one race and
30:35
to see if it keeps up pace and then they're like
30:37
what do we do they're gonna be like you know
30:40
what screw it for japan you know what yeah yuki
30:42
you know once you come up we'll put you with
30:44
i will put max with isaac instead how crazy would
30:47
it be if they if like the if the liam thing is
30:50
all right but like it's not or the yuki going
30:52
to red bull thing is right but it's not yuki
30:54
swapping with isaac Yuki swapping with Max. Oh,
30:58
my God. That sounds amazing, dude. So good, bro.
31:00
God, that would make you feel worse as Liam,
31:03
I think. Yeah. But why would you take Yuki out
31:06
of the passenger car? We're going to give you
31:07
a car that cannot be driven by anyone except
31:09
for Max. We're going to put two people who've
31:13
never driven it before. We're going to put two
31:15
not Max. I would even settle. I know I just said
31:18
Max driving a V car for one race. I would even
31:20
settle for Max testing in a V car. I think that
31:22
would be so funny. Because that means they're
31:25
thinking. about it let's stop talking about max
31:26
and v car for today this is amazing anyway oh
31:29
but really quick i mean yuki strategy messed
31:32
up he he was in for a really good race uh isaac
31:35
got p11 which is great i'm really happy actually
31:37
raced really well he raced really well in comparison
31:41
to some of the other rookies isaac isaac race
31:43
well i'm very i'm very curious to see uh duhan
31:46
we'll i'll mention alpina right after this tie
31:49
it in real quick uh jack completely messed that
31:52
turn up at the what an idiot you got some That's
31:54
about two hands. I was going to try to support
31:57
him. Literally until that moment. I'm like, dude.
32:02
I do that on Xbox, homie. You can't do that.
32:06
Bro is something against the kicks, I think.
32:08
I don't know. What the heck, man? I'm sitting
32:11
here watching him in the sprint and he just murders
32:14
both the kick drivers. I'm like, what is happening?
32:17
Leave them alone. They're struggling enough as
32:19
is. Jack's having a tough go. Pierre Gasly DQ'd
32:24
after the race. Car was underway. The car is
32:31
supposed to weigh 800. Okay, so one thing I want
32:35
to point out for the cars that were underweight,
32:36
what I heard was it was because a lot of those
32:40
teams were expecting two stops. Yep, correct.
32:42
And so they fueled the cars for two stops. They
32:48
did not take two stops. They took one stop. Used
32:50
more fuel. They used more fuel and came in underweight.
32:54
And that was where the issue came from. They
32:56
came in underweight after draining the fuel.
32:59
Right, but they only take out so much. A specific
33:01
amount. They take out like one and a half liters
33:03
or something. I can't remember what it is. But
33:05
they only take out a little bit. They don't drain
33:07
the whole car though. I thought they had to leave
33:09
some fuel in for weighing purposes. So either
33:12
way, they're off by one. It was not fuel. It
33:16
was tire wear. Because they were on a one -stop,
33:19
they used more tire and did not have the rubber
33:21
on the car. I thought one was one and one was
33:23
the other. Okay, this is specifically for Charles.
33:27
Yeah. Specifically Charles. I feel like Gasly
33:29
might have been a fuel thing. But yeah, Charles
33:32
got caught up in it too. Both one kilogram. That's
33:37
insane. It feels so bad, man. That's insane.
33:39
I'd be so pissed. And while we're at it, Lewis
33:41
also getting DQ'd because, quote, Plank on the
33:45
bottom of Hamilton's Ferrari had worn beyond
33:47
the permitted limit, end quote. ESPN. Sorry,
33:51
go ahead. I was going to say, Lewis Hamilton
33:54
during the sprint was actually talking about
33:56
how he didn't have enough downforce in his car,
33:58
and he was struggling in that regard. So Ferrari
34:01
tried dropping his car a little bit lower to
34:02
give him some more downforce, and that probably
34:05
caused some of the shaving off and caused that
34:10
problem. Nice. Good call. I don't know if I just
34:13
stole your... No, no. I didn't even know they
34:16
adjusted the car lower. Yeah. No, that's awesome.
34:21
Let's see. Did we talk about Ferrari? Oh, I guess
34:24
we haven't. So let's talk about Williams and
34:27
Kick real quick, and then we can end on Haas
34:28
and let him have his moment in sunshine and Haas
34:32
basking it. I'm beaming. Kick, that's about what
34:35
we expect them to do, I think. Yep. Yeah. You
34:38
know, like even with the DQs, that's still about
34:41
where they should be. Bortoletto made it into
34:45
sprint quality, too. I don't think he made it
34:47
into qualifying, too, though. So he was he was
34:50
still showing some pace above some other drivers.
34:53
So I'm still looking forward to seeing him race
34:55
and do more. I think, unfortunately, the car
34:57
is going to hinder him a lot, but maybe he can
34:59
make something out of it. Williams, Albon finishing
35:03
P7, Carlos P10. Albon was actually having a great
35:07
run, too, for a minute. Unfortunately, why did
35:12
he fall back? I can't remember, because wasn't
35:14
he up near P5 before, like early on in the race?
35:18
Where am I at right now? Albon started 10th.
35:21
Oh, I'm about halfway through. Oh, Albon started
35:22
10th? Yes. Oh, okay. I thought he got up a lot
35:26
higher than that. that one point but maybe i'm
35:29
thinking of something else but anyway yeah if
35:30
that's the case he made two positions then that's
35:32
but william's getting getting points out of the
35:35
weekend from both drivers you gotta be happy
35:37
with that yeah um yeah there's dqs but whatever
35:40
you take those yes you do you still take the
35:43
points they still count up the same yep uh let's
35:46
see oh okay so i guess we're on haas now what
35:49
a weekend so Immediately gleams. Oh, I'm so smug.
35:54
I'm just looking over across the table at a certain
35:58
somebody who is saying Haas is going to be so
36:00
bad. Look at how bad they were in the wet. Look
36:04
at how bad they are. Look at how bad they are.
36:06
No, hold on. We're not doing accents. But yes.
36:09
Olsen had some pretty good pace all day. All
36:11
day. I do also want to point out the fact that
36:14
Oli drove incredibly. He put on. medium tires
36:18
and drove i think it was 30 laps while overtaking
36:22
four cars on mediums and if we remember the sprint
36:27
drivers were driving 19 laps on their mediums
36:30
and were crying at the end of the race saying
36:32
that their tires were melted and yet ollie was
36:34
able to drive 30 laps on mediums and still overtake
36:37
four cars rigged and um And one of those cars
36:43
I would like to point out was a Mercedes. It
36:45
was Kimi Antonelli, another rookie that he is
36:47
competing against. So the fact that Kimi Antonelli
36:50
got overtaken by a Haas is kind of wicked. Looks
36:53
kind of bad. Just wait on it. The guy that won
36:55
driver of the day. It'll be fine. Antonelli finished
36:58
ahead of Behrman. What? Antonelli finished ahead
37:01
of Behrman. No, he didn't. No, he didn't. He
37:03
finished one position behind Behrman. No, Antonelli
37:06
did not. Antonelli finished P6. Yeah. Ollie finished
37:11
P8. Yes, he did. Oh, maybe seven was album. Oh,
37:14
maybe I'm thinking of of Ocon had passed. Yeah,
37:19
he's dreaming. Either way, it was great to see
37:24
how many of those overtakes with new mediums.
37:27
Don't talk to me. But it was a great pace right
37:31
now. No, they don't. It was a really good race.
37:33
It's good to see. You know, I'm curious to see
37:36
how they do these next couple weeks. Like, can
37:38
their drivers now get in a groove? Because we
37:39
knew the car should have some pace. It had some
37:42
pace last year. We saw it multiple times. I know,
37:45
Joe. But I have them still finishing ninth in
37:48
constructors. I do, too. You know, in front of
37:50
kick. But at the moment, my team is hanging out
37:55
at bottom, which I did not expect either. I was
37:57
just looking at constructors. Williams is tied
38:00
with Ferrari right now. That's insane. will change
38:05
it will change that's gonna change it's going
38:07
to change like the fact that Charles was able
38:10
to race the whole the whole thing with a bunk
38:13
wing yeah and he was driving the absolute I know
38:16
that's what I was gonna bring up I was like I
38:17
didn't look at any of my notes for any of these
38:20
teams because we just went so crazy on McLaren
38:23
but like we're kind of like Charles had a mega
38:28
drive like seriously with a broken wing we were
38:30
joking it's like he's he's almost faster maybe
38:32
this car is better with downforce going under
38:35
the car i think one of the one of the commentators
38:38
made a comment saying like that that because
38:40
of how the downforce got changed that it might
38:43
have actually affected how the graining happens
38:45
on the tires and that it caused it actually extended
38:49
his tire life a little bit so and so that might
38:51
have helped him it might have actually worked
38:53
to his benefit my incredibly amateur non -technical
38:56
thinking behind this is that the side of the
38:59
wing that was down was also on the tire that
39:02
was going to take the most wear, and because
39:04
air was not being flowed to it, it was being
39:06
flowed under it, and therefore not being pressed
39:08
down into the ground more. Can you pull up the
39:10
thing on there? I thought it was his right tire.
39:13
Pull it up. Why don't you pull it up? I want
39:15
to see his broken wing. Everyone take a look
39:19
at this. Pull it up. I feel like it was his right
39:22
wing. I think it was his right tire that got
39:26
broken. But maybe not, though. I think he was
39:28
on the inside line and got hit by... Lewis. No,
39:31
he hit Lewis. No, it was the left. He hit Lewis.
39:33
No, I'm so sorry. You're totally right. It was
39:34
the left side of the way. And I'm surprised Lewis
39:36
didn't get a puncture from it, actually. Because
39:38
he smacked the crap out of Lewis's rear wheel.
39:43
And I'm surprised he did not get a puncture from
39:45
that. Yeah. So they got lucky for that just to
39:47
get DQ'd later. But, you know, whatever. It's
39:49
right after this. Hold on. While we're looking
39:51
for that, too, I forgot to mention Yuki out of
39:54
his wing crumbling. Yeah, it's on the left. I
40:01
stand corrected. That's why I put driver's side
40:06
in air quotes. And that's how you know that we're
40:09
the only ones that listen to our pod that drive
40:11
from the left side. That's why it's funny. Thank
40:17
you, Joe. Yeah, we're really catering towards
40:20
a very specific audience. That's hilarious. Oh,
40:27
the only other thing. Racing Bulls. Yuki on lap
40:30
46, his wing exploded. Yes, we were talking about
40:33
that. That was insane. That was crazy. That sucks.
40:37
I think they just chalked it up to a load -bearing
40:39
issue. I'm pretty sure Yuki was like, what did
40:40
I hit? They're like, nothing. One of my favorite
40:44
comms that we heard is like... Okay, Yuki, you've
40:47
got wing damage. From what? From what? That was
40:54
so funny. The way he said from what was like
40:56
what? He's a little angry fella. He's actually
41:00
not as angry this season. He's kind of fiery
41:02
sometimes. He's been a lot more mellow this season.
41:04
It's funny, though. It cracks me up. Oh, wow.
41:07
I even had sprint notes. I should have looked
41:08
at those. Awesome. Cool. prepared to go back
41:12
to sprint uh no uh let's see to wrap up the recap
41:15
real quick because this was again a long recap
41:18
uh that was mclarey's mclarey mclarey's 50th
41:23
i'm sorry 50th uh one two finish mclarey that's
41:26
pretty cool yep that's awesome uh and then mercedes
41:29
300th podium i didn't know that Very nice. Very
41:33
nice. Very nice. Very nice. All right, Kev. I'm
41:38
sorry. All right, let's go into this other. Oh,
41:40
wait, we didn't have a transition for this one
41:42
last time yet. We got to come up with that. Anyway,
41:44
some good comms. What is Behrman's? I didn't
41:48
see that one. Ciao. He overtook two people. He
41:52
said ciao. And then he came out to the press
41:54
after and apologized. He's like, I didn't realize
41:56
those were being broadcasted. I'm sorry. That's
41:59
funny. I love that. Who put in Lewis giving position
42:04
to Leclerc? I also put that in. So this was a
42:06
little slight controversy. Fred actually, their
42:08
team principal, came out and mentioned it as
42:11
well. Lewis did. And the commentator said this
42:15
too. Lewis did say that he would give position
42:17
to Leclerc, but they only broadcasted. radio
42:21
messages after that made it seem like he was
42:23
against it when that was not the case. So it
42:27
put Lewis in a bad light. Fred came out and was
42:29
like, I don't know why they're broadcasting this
42:31
to create drama when there is none whatsoever.
42:35
Because Lewis said, yeah, when he is closer is
42:36
what they broadcast. Yeah. Yes. And right in
42:39
your mind, he's like, he's not helping his teammate
42:41
out. It's like, no, he just doesn't want to slow
42:44
himself down, which is completely understandable.
42:46
Yeah. So Fred Vasseur came out and was like,
42:49
they're creating drama in the broadcast. and
42:50
needs to stop like simply put and uh i don't
42:54
know if you noticed but uh f1 the f1 youtube
42:56
channel did actually release the whole the whole
42:59
comms on youtube and they released it with like
43:02
a note being like look we understand what happened
43:04
we understand that people are upset about this
43:06
we made a mistake um we'll keep this in mind
43:09
moving forward here is the official comms Uncut
43:12
from Ferrari. Don't pick and choose. Fred is
43:14
a man of the people. We love Fred. We love Fred.
43:17
Fun fact about Fred. Did you know he was Toto's
43:20
best man at his wedding? I did not know that.
43:22
Crazy, right? Wow. You know they're all close,
43:25
but that close? That's pretty much buds. Let's
43:29
see. You said Yuki from what? We talked about
43:32
that one. I have another one from Yuki. It was
43:33
early on in the race. I think this might have
43:36
been pertaining to brake bias, maybe. I don't
43:39
know. But Yuki said, I want to use more front.
43:43
And they said, we don't want you to. And he said,
43:46
well, I want to. And then they responded, do
43:48
what you need to do. I forgot about that. That
43:52
one cracked me up pretty hard. That's awesome.
43:55
I'm going to start making notes of these because
43:57
those are really good ones. I brought that one
43:59
up when we were watching the race, too. And I
44:00
was like, this is going to be my pick for the
44:02
best competition. There was another one from
44:04
Alex Albon that I did not get the quote yet.
44:07
I got to find it somewhere because it was. It
44:10
was funny. Now, again, I'd be curious what the
44:12
whole thing, you know, like the situation, but
44:16
engineer was pretty much telling Alex, uh, his
44:19
tire condition. And he pretty much said that
44:21
he is good and that he is better than everyone
44:24
else. Oh, that was in the, that was in the sprint.
44:26
Oh, that was the sprint. Yeah. Yeah. I have this
44:28
in my GP notes. I remember, I remember seeing
44:31
that. And he's like, he's like the. The engineer
44:35
came on and was talking to him about his tire
44:37
condition. And he goes, yeah, yeah, I get it,
44:39
mate. My tires are great. They're better than
44:42
everyone else or something like that. Yes. His
44:44
exact quote, Alvin's race engineer spoke on the
44:48
team radio and said, we're happy with the tires
44:49
for now. But before he could finish his statement,
44:53
Williams driver said, yeah, I'm good. I'm good.
44:55
I am better than everyone. Let's react. I'm very
44:57
comfortable. Yeah. And that is from F1 Overseer.
45:00
I just love that I'm better than everyone. Obviously,
45:02
he's talking about the tires, right? Yes. It's
45:04
just funny how it came across like I'm better
45:06
than everyone. That's funny. But all right, Kev,
45:10
with that, let's head right into our news. So
45:26
a really quick news. Dang, is my hat cockeyed?
45:29
I can't tell. I think I think you're good. Oh,
45:32
now it is. For you Spotify listeners, my hat
45:36
is now corrected. Not much news. We already talked
45:39
about Liam swapping, potentially. But FIA is
45:44
considering V10s for 2028, but even possibly
45:49
for 2026. Nope. That's pure insanity when you've
45:54
got teams already developing engines, at least
45:55
for 2026. Nope. I did not know that this was
46:00
a thing until I saw this on the... Yeah. So this
46:04
was like, this happened literally like, so this
46:07
happened after actually this first started coming
46:09
up. Um, the first rumblings happened like, uh,
46:13
after they revealed all the cars and they did
46:15
their reveal show and Ben Silliam went up and
46:18
the FIA went up and they boot, they got booed.
46:20
Right. And then afterwards, Ben Silliam was like,
46:22
Hey guys, I'm cool. Right. I'll bring V10s back.
46:26
Is that? The lore? Yeah. That's sick. And so
46:29
that's why he's like, guys, I'm going to bring
46:32
V10s back. Trust me. And now people are like
46:36
talking about like, oh, could we get it, you
46:38
know, 2028, 2030? Because, you know, we've got
46:41
new engine regulations for 2026, right? And now
46:45
there's talk about people being like, well, what
46:47
if we did it for 2026? That's pure insanity.
46:51
And all of like everything I've been seeing is
46:53
like, no, why would they do that? They would
46:55
literally need to scrap. Like the last year and
46:57
a half of development on an engine. Your whole
46:59
R &D. Zero by 2030? Yeah. How are you going to
47:02
do that? No, you can't. No, you can't. Exactly.
47:04
Your entire R &D department would just... But
47:07
people are... The V10 defenders are trying to
47:10
say, oh, well, V10 engines are easier to build
47:13
and they're cheaper to build. Mechanically, they're
47:15
easier than these hybrid engines, which are,
47:18
you know... I mean... Which are more electronic
47:20
-based, which is true. Yeah. It is true, but
47:24
it's like... It's still an issue where it's an
47:27
entirely new engine. It's an entirely new engine,
47:31
and we're giving them less than a year to develop
47:33
it. No chance. That's not fair. And especially
47:35
when we've got multiple new teams coming in,
47:39
like cars, like car developers. And part of the
47:43
reason these car developers are here is to take
47:45
the R &D back to their actual plants and use
47:48
it. And if they're working on V10s... They got
47:51
nothing. There's nothing for them to get out
47:53
of the development. Speaking of that, the very
47:55
little research I did do on that was Audi already
47:57
saying that if that happens, we're not coming.
48:00
I think one of their selling points, they mentioned
48:05
Audi has offered the clearest indication yet
48:08
that it is against Formula 1 abandoning its turbo
48:10
hybrid engines. I think one of the selling points
48:13
was Audi joining was because they could do a
48:15
turbo hybrid engine and then it wasn't a huge
48:17
big block. So it just... Interesting. Exactly.
48:22
Is there an out in that contract, you think,
48:24
though? I feel like Audi can find a way. Well,
48:26
I'm sure. I think pretty much every team has
48:28
to have an out if they really want or need one.
48:32
Audi is developing their own engine, and they're
48:34
like, we're not going to develop a V10 engine,
48:37
which is then you have to take someone else's
48:39
engine. We don't want to do that. Audi is like,
48:42
yeah, we're not going to do that. The FIA really
48:45
wants Audi on the grid because they're like,
48:48
Audi brings a lot of fans in and Audi is like
48:50
a big name. And like, so I think that's, that's
48:54
the reason why I've like, as soon as you brought
48:55
it up, I was like, Nope, Nope. It's not going
48:57
to happen. Like, like we won't see, we won't
49:00
see the V10 until like after 2030 minimum, bare
49:05
minimum. You heard it here. Mike says. Not till
49:08
2030 on the V10. It's saying any move to the
49:11
late 2026 rules would require unanimous support,
49:14
which is not going to happen. There's no way.
49:17
But, I mean, they're saying it's fully sustainable
49:20
fuels for V10s as soon as 2028, 2029. It wouldn't
49:24
be hard, yeah. Interesting. Ah, man. The fuel
49:27
is already kind of there, honestly. Like, the
49:29
fuel is there for the V10s. It wouldn't be too
49:32
hard in the fuel aspect. But, like I said, they've
49:35
already... We're just going to a new powertrain
49:37
cycle. So we're going to have a new engine. All
49:40
these teams have already started working on them.
49:42
They're not going to throw away millions of dollars
49:45
of development just to start from square one.
49:48
For what? A louder engine? Yeah, right. It ruins
49:52
my dreams of a Ford coming to F1 with an EcoBoost
49:59
engine. Stop. Stop. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I
50:02
have a theory that, or rather a prediction, that
50:05
they could come and market it as EcoBoost, and
50:07
it would be so funny if they did. Okay, copy.
50:10
Chuckle, activate EcoBoost. I would just love
50:11
to see EcoBoost decals. That's what I want to
50:14
see. Yeah, I want to see. Because, I mean, like,
50:16
it is, I mean, that's, they kind of already,
50:18
like, I mean, it's very different from an F1
50:20
engine, but they make a twin turbo V6 engine
50:23
already. So it would make sense that they call
50:25
it in some way an EcoBoost. Okay. It'd be dope.
50:29
It'd be dope. Yeah, yeah. Dope isn't funny. If
50:32
Ford would have joined, would you become a new
50:33
Ford boy? Would this be your team? I don't know
50:37
if Ford would be my team, but I would definitely.
50:39
It'd add a hat to the collection. Yeah, I'd love
50:41
to see Ford in it. I mean, they've been in F1
50:43
before. Could you see it? I think they've won
50:45
a championship for as well. At least one of their
50:49
drivers has won a championship before in a Ford.
50:51
So I would absolutely root for them. I just.
50:54
I doubt they would join it, considering the route
50:57
they're going with their production and the route
50:59
they're going with their racing and stuff. I
51:01
don't know if it really aligns very much. I would
51:04
definitely support them, though, 100%. Could
51:07
you see a team that joins the grid that would
51:10
make you replace your McLaren hat? i don't think
51:13
so um simply simply because mclaren yeah mclaren
51:17
was already like even before f1 i had a lot of
51:19
respect for mclaren okay um so when i joined
51:22
it they were just an obvious pick for me okay
51:24
fair yeah um i think if ford were in it when
51:27
i started it'd probably be a little harder to
51:29
choose between the two but yeah mclaren has always
51:32
been um you know just in any racing discipline
51:36
i've always gravitated toward them so Fiat. Valid.
51:39
That's fiat for you? No, I'm just trying to start
51:42
it out. That's okay. I mean, no judgments. Everybody's
51:45
got their thing. No, what we're going to do is
51:47
move on. Everyone's got their thing. We're not
51:49
going to judge you here publicly. This is a safe
51:51
case. All right, Kev, Kev. Let's move right on
51:55
to our Japan GP preview. We are back with another
52:12
preview into a race coming up. Not this weekend,
52:17
but the weekend after. We're looking at Japan.
52:19
I'm here to bring you up to speed. This upcoming
52:23
Japanese Grand Prix is called the Formula One
52:26
Lenovo Japanese Grand Prix 2025. A fun fact.
52:29
This is my fun fact from last year. Only figure
52:31
eight track on the calendar. This is a new fun
52:34
fact. It was built by Honda in the 1960s as a
52:37
test track. for their Honda cars. So that's pretty
52:42
neat, right? All right, jumping into last year's
52:46
Japan Grand Prix. Our starting grid was Max and
52:50
Sergio, Red Bull 1 -2, and Lando to signs. Lights
52:56
out. Both Red Bulls get a great start ahead of
52:58
the McLaren and the Ferrari behind. Both sets
53:00
of cars going side by side into the first corner.
53:03
Meanwhile, further down the grid, we see a Williams
53:05
and a V -Carb touch through a corner and both
53:08
end up into the wall at the S's. This brings
53:10
out an immediate red flag and retirement for
53:13
Danny Rick and Albon. We were starting the third
53:17
lap and the start was a copy and paste from the
53:19
first one. Top five, no change for the first
53:21
corners. This includes a little bit of a kerfuffle
53:23
between our favorite Alpine team. yep a little
53:26
bit of a kerfuffle between our favorite alpine
53:28
teammates okan and gasly wheel the side pod on
53:31
the starting straight we watch on lap 13 our
53:34
next red bull driver yuki sanota overtake on
53:37
alpine masterfully on the head hard corners of
53:40
the s's very difficult overtaking spot making
53:43
it look easy over the next 10 to 20 laps we see
53:46
a lot of overtaking from our red bulls and from
53:48
lando on the mercedes and the ferraris as they
53:51
all run slightly different strategies from each
53:53
other the ferrari signs overtakes the Mercedes
53:55
in the lower end of the top 10 for a better position
53:58
after pitting, followed by Piastri soon after.
54:01
Mercedes on a long -running strategy compared
54:03
to the rest of the top already having pit. On
54:06
lap 26, Leclerc has a moment and goes off super
54:09
wide on the turn before the overpass, quickly
54:12
getting overtaken by Perez for his original spot
54:14
and allowing Lander to quickly close the distance
54:16
to third. If you are looking for a driver to
54:19
watch this race, it is Yuki Tsunoda making the
54:21
track his own, emphasizing on an amazing pit
54:24
strategy which put him on the top of the middle
54:25
pack and then fighting and overtaking again through
54:28
the s's on hulkenberg for the last point place
54:34
uh i had fun writing this next one logan sergeant
54:37
finds some sand to play in on lap 42 coming out
54:40
of the beach looking like he just built a sand
54:41
castle and finds himself on the back of the pack
54:43
two laps later science overtakes the mclaren
54:46
of lando for fourth place after a late pit stop
54:49
this isn't the end of his day however as on lap
54:51
46 he makes the move on his teammate for a third
54:53
the action does not stop as we watch russell
54:56
go side by side piastri both fighting for the
54:58
last corner before the straight and both having
55:00
to bail out of a move piastri going off and eventually
55:03
giving the position back to George on the final
55:06
lap of the race on the straight. Our finals,
55:10
Verstappen to Perez, a Red Bull 1 -2, Sainz to
55:13
Leclerc, Norris to Alonso, Russell to Piastri,
55:16
and Hamilton to Sonoda. Red Bull's last and most
55:19
recent 1 -2 as of now. Wow, that's their last
55:24
1 -2? Yes. Yes, that early in the season. That
55:28
does seem pretty wild. It's all downhill from
55:30
there. But Checo did not do well after that.
55:33
And Liam's not going to do much better. So, I
55:35
mean, that's... And Yuki, again, doing so well.
55:39
Liam's not doing better. Liam's... I know. I
55:41
mean, Liam will do great in the V -carb. Yeah,
55:44
right. Oh, man. And so will Max. Interesting.
55:50
This is interesting. Not that it would affect
55:53
my podium if Yuki was in the Red Bull, but it
55:56
would be fun. Points turned out last weekend.
55:59
Yeah, I bet you want to talk about points, huh?
56:01
I actually, with like three laps left, I was
56:05
like, dang, I got to look at my points. I'm curious
56:08
if I did actually take these guys. I was like,
56:11
I'm pretty sure I cleaned house. Second race
56:13
of the season, a perfect podium prediction. A
56:16
perfect six. Perfect six. Congratulations. That's
56:21
amazing. Yeah, I mean, I got nothing. Yeah, I
56:25
was lucky. No, but I mean, I also, I took the,
56:29
no, I did not take the same podium in Australia.
56:31
I had Charles up there, but after the Australia
56:35
race where McLaren should have been 1 -2, I was
56:38
like, you know what? Yeah, and Mercedes just
56:41
seems like they're better than Ferrari at the
56:43
moment. So, okay. So, that's how I came up with
56:45
that one. That's the strategy, you know. So now
56:48
you have the secret sauce. I think George does
56:51
look good here. I think he did pretty well given
56:54
the car last season. What did you say? He finished
56:55
P6. He finished P7, 8, 9. He finished P7. Yeah,
57:01
but given the car, that Mercedes was not hot
57:05
at the beginning of last year. Yeah. And he finished
57:08
two places ahead of Lewis. I mean, I could see
57:13
him do well. So what is our total right now?
57:18
All right, so one of you two has got to go first.
57:20
No, you've got to go first. I've got to go first?
57:22
Yeah, you're the leader. That's how that works.
57:23
You can't just pass it to me this week again.
57:26
Slow your roll. I'm not used to leading. Okay,
57:30
I don't know how it works. This is a new podcast.
57:33
This is my first time. Okay, do I do my whole
57:37
podium? I mean, talk through it, you know? Okay,
57:40
yeah. Well, Lando's going to win this week. Okay.
57:44
To go with my... They're going to keep switching
57:46
and they don't really know who's going to actually
57:49
be number one. Okay. So since I went perfect
58:01
last week, I'm going to go crazy this week, right?
58:04
Yeah. That's up to you. Makes it easier for me.
58:06
Put Yuki up in your podium. Oscar is not on my
58:11
podium at all. Okay. I'm going Lando. Charles
58:16
Max. Okay. I don't hate that podium. Ferrari
58:20
eventually is going to be getting podiums. So
58:22
that's locked in. And it's going to be soon.
58:23
That's locked in. I'm done. So that's locked
58:24
in. I don't think Charles is touching the podium.
58:27
It's going to happen soon. I don't think. It
58:29
will happen soon. Now, second place is. I don't
58:31
know about that. Yeah, that was a crazy call.
58:33
Yeah, yeah. But I like it. I like it. Yeah, it'll
58:38
be interesting. Max will be on the podium this
58:40
week. You know, I feel like I owe you an apology,
58:44
by the way. Why? Because last week, Joe and I
58:48
were like, now tell me why you think Max won't
58:50
be on the podium. And when we were watching the
58:53
race, I commented on that. And then Max fell
58:56
back to fourth and George was holding third.
58:58
And I was like, oh. I would personally like to
59:01
apologize. I called you delusional. I'm sorry.
59:06
Well, it appears I have the same amount of memory
59:10
as a dog. So I have apparently forgotten how
59:15
rude you guys were. So I'll have to go back and
59:17
listen again. Or unless this is in messages,
59:20
then I have it forever. Thank goodness we didn't
59:23
say anything in DMs. Oh, boy. We're clean. All
59:28
right. One of you guys got to go. Who's going?
59:30
I think I'll go because you took it last time
59:33
around. Nope. No? You don't think so? I'm going
59:43
to duplicate my podium from last weekend. Lando
59:48
Oscar Max. Lando Oscar Max? Yeah. I actually
59:51
do think Charles could get on the podium. You
59:55
know what? Let's do Lando Oscar, Charles. Let's
59:57
do Lando Oscar. I do think Charles could maybe
59:59
make it to the podium. Max has always been...
1:00:02
Hold on. Don't put that in that third spot yet.
1:00:04
Lando Oscar right now is all I got on there.
1:00:06
Who are you going to put in? Wouldn't you like
1:00:09
to know? I would love to know. It's not going
1:00:11
to be Charles. You're just talking crap on Charles.
1:00:12
He was not saying Charles. It's true. So that
1:00:14
could be a good opportunity to get a leg up on
1:00:16
him. But I mean, with how we have it set up,
1:00:19
if he's not in the podium, I just don't get a
1:00:21
point. That's crazy. Man, you know? I don't.
1:00:28
Let's do Lando Oscar Max. I think that's probably
1:00:31
my best option. Locked. Let's talk about our
1:00:36
winner and why it's going to be Yuki Tsunoda.
1:00:38
No, no, no. Don't you write that down. Boy, it
1:00:46
would be interesting, though. So you said Lando,
1:00:48
and you said Oscar's not in your podium at all.
1:00:50
He's not. He's going to be P4. Back -to -back
1:00:53
Oscar wins? Is that what's happening this weekend?
1:00:56
No. Ooh, maybe. That would be wicked. No way.
1:01:00
Not going to happen. He's pretty quick. You locking
1:01:02
it? Put Oscar in first. Locking it. That's kind
1:01:06
of what I was thinking. I wanted to go opposite
1:01:08
of him. Yeah. I want to go opposite of Smelty.
1:01:12
And here comes Ol' Khan. Yeah. No, don't be silly.
1:01:14
Yuki Tsunoda. No, I'm kidding. It's going to
1:01:17
be Max. Oh, boy. Is it going to be Max? No, George
1:01:19
Russell. yeah that's probably for the that's
1:01:21
probably safe honestly honestly i said it i said
1:01:24
it as soon as we went in i was like i was like
1:01:27
george russell did look pretty good on this track
1:01:29
last year given the car and we see how he's racing
1:01:31
right now right off the rip ski that's okay oh
1:01:34
wait yeah once you if you add them all then it
1:01:36
should it'll yeah it'll settle so who's three
1:01:38
i'm sorry i missed george george george russell
1:01:40
george i think that's a good pick yeah yeah i
1:01:43
bet you would Hey, George has gotten me a bunch
1:01:46
of points this season. Actually, George is the
1:01:48
only one. George has gotten you all your points.
1:01:51
Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, George has been good
1:01:53
for me. Man, George is a good pick, I think.
1:01:56
Actually, George has gotten you half of your
1:01:58
points this season. I know. I just realized.
1:02:00
Yeah, he really has. He's got literally four
1:02:02
of your eight points. And I'm deciding to leave
1:02:04
him off my podium. Why? Which is hilarious. Too
1:02:07
late. No backsies. Oh, no, no. He's mine. You
1:02:09
can't take him from me. I'm not confident in
1:02:11
Charles getting second, but I'm confident in
1:02:13
Charles getting on the podium. I am more confident
1:02:15
on Charles getting on the podium than Max right
1:02:17
now. Wow. Yeah, I'm still on the Max train. That's
1:02:21
fine. I think this will probably be the last
1:02:23
weekend I'm on the Max train. I guess he's only
1:02:25
got one aisle. What happened? I don't know. Max?
1:02:28
I guess I put a post -it note on there on X.
1:02:30
It was just getting too easy for him to drive,
1:02:32
so he drives with one eye on it. Cyclops Verstappen.
1:02:34
He's trying to make it a challenge. I do think
1:02:37
if Max doesn't podium. Well, he got fourth, though.
1:02:42
I have a right to put him on my podium, I still
1:02:46
think, but there comes a point of diminishing
1:02:49
returns where I'm like, Max is not a viable option
1:02:51
anymore. He was five seconds behind George. Five
1:02:56
seconds behind George? Yeah. You're locked, son.
1:02:59
George started second, though. George did start
1:03:01
second. That is a good point. I think I'm okay.
1:03:04
I'm okay with that. I'm just, I'm no, I'm not
1:03:06
changing anything. I'm just saying for future,
1:03:08
for future predictions. The thing is like, I,
1:03:11
I'm really, I respect the Ferraris, but like
1:03:14
they were still not, they were not up there.
1:03:16
Their pace is on the way. It's on the way. It's
1:03:18
on the way. I will agree. I am convinced that
1:03:20
Ferrari will be in from here. Two to three. I'm
1:03:24
convinced Ferrari will be in the battle. Two
1:03:25
to three weeks shipping. At some point. U .S.
1:03:27
Postal. Pace will arrive. If it does not, please
1:03:32
call us back. Maybe those severe, not penalties,
1:03:37
but those rule changes. Maybe Mercedes and McLaren
1:03:40
just drop. God, I hope that's not the case. Maybe
1:03:42
it's the Al Haas. That'd be crazy. I actually,
1:03:45
so I heard, I heard, so I actually heard something.
1:03:47
I heard something that's got me mortified. I
1:03:52
like my, my gut fell out of my butt when I heard
1:03:55
about this. Oh no. It was like, I heard that.
1:03:58
Yeah. Yeah. I didn't go into the doctor. Uh,
1:04:01
it was, I heard that, uh, Haas has apparently
1:04:03
been very much so benefiting from this flexi
1:04:06
win. And I'm like, I'm like, if that's the case,
1:04:12
I'm like, I'm like, We're doomed. P19, P20. Yeah,
1:04:16
P9 might be real. P19, P20. I'm like, oh, no.
1:04:20
So I really hope that that's not the case and
1:04:23
that they are not relying off of us. And if it
1:04:25
is the case, you're going to order a Cadillac
1:04:27
hat. No. Start prepping. No, Adi comes in next
1:04:30
year. He's going to go full out. His outfit is
1:04:33
changing next year. Oh, it's a full out. He said
1:04:35
that he's like, I'm a McLaren guy. In every racing
1:04:40
game I've ever played, I've always snapped to
1:04:42
Adi. Oh, snap. Okay, so now we'll have an Audi
1:04:44
guy. And you're still going to have room in your
1:04:46
heart for Haas. Yeah, Haas will be my second
1:04:48
team, for sure. And then Aston, you're dropping
1:04:50
him. Aston will be not in my top three. They
1:04:53
fall out of the podium. Not in your top three?
1:04:55
Oh, McLaren. McLaren, yeah, McLaren. I love McLaren.
1:04:58
And I like the drivers. I like... I like the
1:05:03
manufacturer for McLaren. If they don't win this
1:05:05
WDC, I'm trading it. It's done. I'm hanging up
1:05:08
the hat. This is a one -sided relationship. I'm
1:05:11
not going to get anything out of this. I look
1:05:14
like an idiot. Oh, man. Mike, thanks for being
1:05:17
here this week. Thank you for having me. Glad
1:05:19
you were able to make it. He was a game -time
1:05:21
decision, by the way. Yeah, that was crazy. And
1:05:23
the decision was that he was going to be here,
1:05:25
which was awesome. Yeah, I try to be here as
1:05:27
much as I can. Yeah, heck yeah. Thank my boss.
1:05:29
Yep, thank you, Mike's boss. Shout out Mike's
1:05:32
boss. Jake or something. Tyler. Looking at you,
1:05:35
Tyler. I want to make sure Tyler watches this
1:05:38
now. There's a lot of Tylers. Too many. Joe,
1:05:41
obviously you were here this week. Awesome. That's
1:05:46
true. You do only know me. No, I do. Actually,
1:05:49
what's funny is that I started calling you Tyler
1:05:52
this week. That's cool. Thanks for doing the
1:05:56
bare minimum, I guess. Thanks for doing up to
1:06:01
speed. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Yeah.
1:06:06
Let's. Yeah. Awesome. Joe's going back. Texting
1:06:09
mom again. Mom. Oh, he's calling you this time.
1:06:14
I've been waiting for an hour. Oh, shoot. Oh,
1:06:18
my God. Smelty, thank you for hosting and being
1:06:21
here. Yeah. No, I feel like we don't thank you.
1:06:23
Obviously. Obviously. I know you have a choice.
1:06:26
And you choose to be here. We don't actually
1:06:28
give him a choice. We tie him up. And we keep
1:06:30
him chained up over in that direction. He's actually
1:06:32
sitting here all the time. He doesn't leave the
1:06:34
chair. I don't move. I've grown one with the
1:06:36
chair. We do bring him food and water. Once a
1:06:39
day at least. Well, someone does, I think. I
1:06:42
don't. I just assumed someone does. Don't forget
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1:07:29
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1:07:33
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1:07:38
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