Latest / O'Brien & Doug / O'Brien & Doug S5:E10 [January 20, 2022 Rock Ripoffs]

Transcript

O'Brien & Doug S5:E10 [January 20, 2022 Rock Ripoffs] · O'Brien & Doug

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_05: The O'Brien and Doug podcast is brought to you in part by MojurMultimedia.com.
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_05: KMH Music and Press Con Many.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_05: The Rich Runner, Westfield Maine, and Doug's cousin Levin.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my goodness.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_04: After all these years of blissful sounds, I forgot how to know in the sound of your voice is this.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_11: This yo yo this is the O'Brien and Doug Podcast.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_10: Why don't you be down in the basement with your little friend?
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_05: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug Podcast.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_05: I'm O'Brien.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_05: I am Jacques Cousteau.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_08: Season five.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_08: Oula! Comment ça?
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_08: He's French.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_08: What?
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_08: Jacques Cousteau is French.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_08: I know, I'm throwing everybody off.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_05: Season five, episode ten.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_08: Guten Tag.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_05: The season's half over.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_09: I know, right?
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_09: That's crazy.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's hard to believe.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_09: We started in what, November?
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_09: I think so.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_05: Something like that.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_05: Anyway.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_09: We're almost coming up on our uh two two-year anniversary.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_05: I know.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_05: It's crazy, isn't it?
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, be it.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_09: Isn't that the uh plastic anniversary?
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_05: I don't even know.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_05: I I'll tell you about anniversaries.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_05: My wife and my 25th is coming up in June.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_05: I'm trying to plan something, dude.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_05: Isn't that silver?
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_05: Silver.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_09: Silver and gold.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_09: I'm trying to plan something.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_05: And and well, actually, I was gonna try and plan something behind her back as a surprise.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_05: Good luck with that.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I can't do it.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_05: Um because um I I we she her happy place is the beach.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_05: So I want to find someplace that's gonna be relatively warm uh where we can go to the beach and spend most of our time at the beach.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_09: That uh we can the beach the beaches in Maine in June are not warm.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_05: And she doesn't want to go in June.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_05: She wants to go like in March.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_09: The only way you're gonna go to a warm beach is to go south.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_05: So I don't know what we're gonna do, but uh, I think I guess we're planning it together.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_05: Um that's probably best.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_05: So because I can't can't I can't keep anything from her ex except this one thing that I've kept from her at least for a little while.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_05: Now my daughter knows, so it'll be it's hard telling when when my wife is gonna find out.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_09: Probably as soon as she gets home.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_05: My wife um likes to uh how can I say this without her getting really mad?
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_05: Um she yells at us.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_05: She doesn't yell at us.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_05: She like gets mad at us for you know, like doing things like hiding food or you know, like if I if I bought a uh box of crackland oat bran, which is my favorite cereal, I might like stick it on top of the cupboard as opposed to in the cupboard so that nobody else gets it but me.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_09: I didn't realize crackling oat brand was a uh high-valued cereal.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_05: It's uh about this big VC.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_05: It's really really small box.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_05: And they're like, it's like four bucks.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_05: It's uh it's ridiculous.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_05: I don't buy it very often.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_05: So when I do, I wanna get I want to get some because there's only like four bowls of that cereal in in a box.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_05: So I you know, I hide it.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_05: That's just an example.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_05: Uh but she does the same thing, and when I accuse her of it, she gets been out of shape.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_05: Well I found a stash of hers.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_05: Like she'll just for no reason of course I and I gotta give my wife all kinds of credit because she does everything around here.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, she takes care of the kids, she you know, cleans and and and and does the laundry and and dishes.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_05: I mean we all help a little bit, but but she does most of it.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_05: Um and she's she also works.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_05: So she's a superwoman.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_05: Anyway, uh every once in a while she'll go down in the basement just for no reason.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_05: And then she'll come up and I'll notice that she's chewing, and I'll always be like, ah! I knew you had a stash.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_05: She's like, No, I don't.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_05: So I found it.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_05: Ah.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_05: So and I'm not gonna say where it is because my kids might listen to the podcast, but there is a stash over in the corner somewhere of the basement of chocolate chips.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_05: So she she'll get she'll order like uh from Sam's Club online or something like that, these big um bulk bags of chocolate chips.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_05: And dark chocolate because she can't have milk chocolate.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_05: And uh soft chocolate's better for you.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_05: It is, it is.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_05: So every once in a while when she's got a hankering, she'll just come out and grab a handful of chocolate chips and then eat those on the way back upstairs.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I f I found the stash and I started eating them myself.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_05: So every once in a while I just come down and I would I would grab some.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I didn't want her to find out that I was eating her chocolate chips.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_05: So I went and bought, I don't know if you can see over there in the corner, I went and bought a couple more bags of chocolate chips and then just started refilling the big bag with the little bags of chocolate chips.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_09: Why didn't you just add them to the stash?
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_09: Then she could be like, ah, I'm not sure.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_05: Well, no, no, no.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_05: See, they're they're big uh bags with like a like a resealable thing.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, okay.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_05: And and those bags are just yeah, they're just okay.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_05: And they don't have those big bags that are resealable at Walmart or anywhere up here.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_05: I think you it's a Sam's Club thing or or it's a bulk store thing.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_05: So I went and bought like three regular size bags of dark chocolate chips and I poured them into the big bag.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_09: Now, don't you think she's gonna sus get suspicious in like six months when it's not going down?
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_05: But here's the thing Is it a magical bag of chocolate chips?
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_05: That's the thing.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_05: She obviously knows that I got into it because she opened another bag.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_05: Oh.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_05: So there was one bag that's almost gone, or was almost gone, and she opened another bag.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_05: I know she doesn't think that she ate all of that bag.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_09: Oh.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_05: So she's gotta be on to me.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_09: Well, you guys have some sort of like Cold War detente.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_09: I don't.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_09: But it's fine.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_09: It's something going on here.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_09: It's like it's like mutually assured destruction if you both you know admit to this thing and it's gonna be like mushroom cloud over the over the household.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_05: The key to a happy marriage, man, is have a little f have a little fun.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, you know, it it's like uh that movie.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_09: What was that movie with uh uh Brad Pitt and Angina Jolie?
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_09: Uh Mr.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_09: and Mrs.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_09: Smith.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_09: Mr.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_09: and Mrs.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_09: Smith.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, they're both spies, but they didn't know it.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so um And my see the thing is is before you got here, my daughter was here and she saw those bags.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_05: So she's like, Dad, I see what you're doing down here.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_05: So and I and two of them are gone.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_05: And I didn't want her to think that I've been sitting down here eating chocolate chip, like two bags of chocolate chips.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_05: Um so I had to explain what I was doing.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, I see.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_05: And now she's like, I'm gonna tell mom.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm like, You are not gonna tell mom, or I will rip your fingernails out.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_05: Well, she almost told me.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_09: I know you know, and I really I've been here less than what, half an hour?
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_09: So I mean she's gonna break easy.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_09: Of course she is.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_09: You know, it's good thing we didn't, you know, good thing she wasn't on the Manhattan Project and back in the World War II, because everybody everybody would be like, oh, that's what America's up to.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_05: Best I can say is she'll forget.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_05: She'll like Mama.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_05: Well, she it'll come up like a week from now.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, hey, mom, did you know?
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_05: That's been eating.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_09: Well, my it might she might she might squirrel it away for when she needs a favor.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_09: She'll be like, hey, you remember that thing?
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_05: So anyway.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, so I can't keep anything from my wife.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_05: What's our phrase?
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_05: Happy wife, happy life.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_05: The one that we like if I if I do something.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_01: Can I tell my wife?
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_09: We've been saying that for years.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_09: I know.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_09: But I can't even remember where it came from.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_05: I don't either.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_05: Um but it's funny because I I can't keep things from my wife.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_09: You know, like I think you could.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_09: I think you just choose not to.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_09: Well, I don't know because I I guess It's not like you do anything super devious.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_09: Of course not.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_09: You know, so it's it's just like, you know, you you do these things that you're like, I cannot all and then you're like, I cannot tell my wife, and then like ten minutes later you're taught her.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_00: Of course.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_05: So it's it's you know, it's like, well, what was the point of saying that?
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_05: Well, we're we're kind of the same person, you know.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_09: Sure, well, I mean it's like Well, you are a man and wife, so become one flesh, right according to the Bible.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_05: So but I can't I can't keep like the thing I told you tonight, I'm sure that'll come out at some point.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_05: So anyway.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_05: Um I want to talk about because I and uh we might have alluded to this uh in a previous podcast, but we hadn't had the opportunity to But you're a super genius.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_05: Well that too.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_05: Uh we haven't had the opportunity, or hadn't until now, uh, because we don't care anymore.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_05: Um we hadn't had the opportunity to actually play some some music to to uh drive the point home.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_05: Um but I want to and and I want to approach this in a in a way that um doesn't make me sound like an old folk.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_05: Which is too late, I know.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_05: Um but song ripoffs whether I d I I honestly deep down um don't think that people do it on purpose.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_05: Um well, for the most part I think I think, and we just had this conversation, but I think a lot of the originality is is gone in music because it seems like everything's been done before.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_05: And when people are writing songs, um they're not I think, I I believe, they're not trying to write down and and and or sit down and write a song that sounds like something else.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_05: I think they're trying to be original.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_05: But songs are in the ether, you know, especially ones that have been around for a long time.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_05: And y you can't avoid that getting into your psyche, if you will.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_05: You're looking at me like I'm just I have two heads.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_09: No, I I know exactly.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_09: Well, I mean there's you know, as Solomon once said, there is nothing new under the sun.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_09: So there's only so many chords there's only so many chords.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, look, I have an app on my phone.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_09: Uh the circle of fifths.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_09: You know?
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_09: So you can you can you know this is all the chords you can do.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_05: There are only so many notes.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_09: That's all you can do.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_09: That's it.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, it's not like you're they're gonna come up with new ones.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_09: You know, it's there, you know, chords are not iPhones.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_09: You know, it's not gonna be like, hey, the new version of uh of G major, you know, version 27's coming out next month.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_09: You know, you just can't do it.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_09: Well, it's not you know, everything, everything's ripped off.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, every every single book is ripped off.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_09: Because all those words have been printed before.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_09: Have you read the dictionary?
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_09: Everybody's ripping off the dictionary.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_09: So you can't claim original work anymore.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_05: So I want to uh that's and that's how I want to approach this because I'll hear a song like my you know when my kids listen to a song, and it used to drive my oldest daughter crazy.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_05: She'd get so upset with me because she would play a song and I'd start singing a different song to it because it's the same music.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_05: And she'd go, Dad, why do you have to ruin everything?
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_05: Um so but I thought we would play a couple of examples.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_05: Uh just to kind of uh illustrate my point.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_05: And one of them happens to be uh Sam Smith.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_05: And I don't know if you've heard this one.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_05: I think you've heard this song probably, but I didn't I don't know if you knew that this one was basically ripped off.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_09: Um, considering I'm not even really sure who Sam Smith is because I don't talk to people or engage in popular culture much.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_05: I like the way you put that.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_05: I don't talk to people.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_09: I really don't.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_09: I I seriously I only lately and the last and the pandemic is is has proven my point.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_09: I really only talk to the band.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_09: You know, either you know, the syndicate or common crossing.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_09: I only talk to those members, that's about it.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_05: But you know they say um keep your circle of friends small.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, my my circle's small.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_09: But it's it's mighty and loyal.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_05: That's true.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_05: So first I'm gonna play from 2014.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_05: Actually, there's a video on YouTube.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_05: Sometimes YouTube uh puts these songs together so you can actually see how much uh how alike they are.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_05: So my son was playing this song.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_05: My son likes to when he takes a shower at night, he cranks his music, and this song came on and he's singing it.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_09: And uh he likes that he likes that whiny emotion.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_09: He does, he does stuff.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_05: This isn't the whiny emo, this is a very soulful song, but um I started singing a Tom Petty song to it.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_05: And then you know, this is from 2014, so this this has been around for a while.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_05: Um but the structure of the song is um is almost identical.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_05: The melody of the song is almost identical.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_07: You can stand me up at the gates of Elba.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_07: Right?
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_07: Stay with me up at the gates of Helpa.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_05: And that's what I mean.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, that's it's a different song, obviously.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean, his is slow and slow and whatever, and Tom Petty's is upbeat and there was another song, and and Tom Petty was the coolest uh because somebody had asked him about it.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_05: Well, Tom Petty's actually been ripped off a lot.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_05: You remember the Chili Peppers, Danny California?
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_05: Um did you ever uh did you hear the similarity between that song?
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_05: Um not sure.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_05: This one was a little more subtle.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_05: You know this song well.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_05: Mary Jean's Last Day.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_05: This one happened to be the chord structure and the delivery.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_05: Tom Petty was awesome.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_05: And he's been ripped off a lot, of course.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_05: So there's this one.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_05: Um I'm gonna play um Country Song that I thought was another Tom Petty song.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_05: Sure, I'll switch here in a second.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_05: But Tom Petty was the coolest about this.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_05: He was like, do you think somebody asked him in California from the Philippines?
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_05: So it's it's the the delivery and the chords.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_05: I mean the song doesn't sound like air channel.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_09: No.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_09: But if you really look you know, you'd have to really listen to it hard at all.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's that's uh split in hairs as far as I'm concerned.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_05: Um but there was another one, this country singer, Jay Gowen, uh, this is when I was back working at the radio station, I think it was this from from nine years ago.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and the song came out, and I was like, well, this is a Tom Petty song, and nobody understood what I was saying.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_05: I even said it on the air.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_05: I said, this is a Tom Petty song.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_05: And nobody picked up on it.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_05: So I'm not gonna tell you the Tom Petty song, but you see if you can spot it.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_05: This is a song from Jake Owen, it's called The One That Got Away.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: But it's the same structure.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, but your your average country fan is not gonna really notice that, yeah.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_05: Down to the dirty anyway.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_05: Um so I've and I've noticed that a lot.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_09: Um Yeah, but the beginning sounded like that one he does with Stevie Nicks.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, a little bit.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_05: A little bit.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_05: What uh can you think of any?
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_09: Well, I mean, there's always the bass line from uh under pressure that vanilla ice, you know, sampled.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_05: But vanilla ice said it was a tribute.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_09: But why didn't he just say he sampled it?
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_09: It would have been just everybody, you know.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, and that's what's what they do.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_05: That's what they do in hip hop, especially.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_09: They sample.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_09: So if he'd call that, everybody would have been like, oh, okay, yeah.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_05: Well, so there's there's this famous one because it was this one lost lost a lawsuit.
• 19:33
  unknown: Everybody get up.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_05: This is Robin Thick.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_09: See, I I don't know this song, I only know the version that Weird Al put out.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_09: Uh Word Crimes, I think he calls it.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_09: Which is actually pretty great.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_05: It's just Blurred Lines.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_05: That's a ripoff of Marvin Gay's.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_05: Gotta give it up.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_05: I will show you.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_05: I can uh it's not uh it's not a blatant ripoff.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_05: I can hear the similarities, and obviously the judge could too.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_05: Even starts the same way.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_09: Right?
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_09: That's rule summer.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_05: And then when he starts singing, so I mean I can I can see that as well.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I can see that one.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_05: Um what about the uh the blatant We always talk about how Led Zeppelin ripped everybody off.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_05: But there was you know, like especially especially their blues songs.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, they take all these old blues singers.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_05: And because they used to go to these folk clubs in England and they'd hear these blues singers doing songs, um sometimes original songs, and when they got together as a band and started putting stuff together, what was that guy, you know, uh that guy doing this and that and that, and then they made it their own.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, they they made it their own.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_05: I will give them that.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_05: But they weren't their songs, but they claimed that they were.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_05: You know?
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and uh another example is uh well here, I'll just play this.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_05: I'll just tell you this is a band called Taurus.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_05: No, it's a band called Spirit, the song is Taurus.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, I'm really confused now.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_05: Are you?
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_05: Wait, you won't be confused in a second.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_09: No, what's the name of the band?
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_09: Spirit is Taurus.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_09: Spirit.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_05: The name of the song is Taurus.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_04: I think.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_09: That's so stairway.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_05: So that but that first part was almost identical.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, very, very, very good.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_05: And this was before Led Zeppelin put theirs out.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_05: And I think that lawsuit was thrown out, or or I I can't remember where where that lawsuit stands.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_05: Uh but it was l a legitimate lawsuit.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_09: I'm sure, yeah.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_05: Um there was the Coldplay song and Joe Satriani.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_05: You ever heard that one?
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_09: Nope.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_05: It was a very popular coldplay song.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, but Coldplay blows, so I don't really pay any attention.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_05: So Viva La Vida, which is a huge hit uh for for Coldplay.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_05: And then the Joe Satriani.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_05: And then Joe Satriani had a song called If I Could Fly, which came out before this.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_05: Right?
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_05: I mean it's the same melody.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_05: And and but that's what I wanted wanted to talk about, was because I don't think they do it on purpose.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_05: I think it's just except for maybe Lynn.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_05: Um music gets in your soul.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_05: Especially music that you really like and that you listen to all the time.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_05: And I think it's just it's just there.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_05: So when you go to create something, it kind of comes out.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah, I mean I mean, I'll be walking around and I'll get something stuck in my head and I'll go, wow.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_09: That's that's kind of cool.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_09: And then I'll realize it's part of another song.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_09: You know, I've you know, in my brain, I'm like, oh, I just came up with a melody or a cool, you know, a cool thing.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_09: And then I you know, then I then later you're listening to music, you're like, oh, that's where I heard it.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_09: You know what I mean?
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_09: So I mean, so yeah, when you're writing melodies and songs, you know, things gets you know, things that you've heard before get stuck in your you know.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_09: Because to a musician, you know, notes and chords and music is part of your DNA.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_09: So you're you're gonna hear stuff.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_05: And there's only so many ways you can you can look them together.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_09: So I mean it's it's you can only put them together in so many ways.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, as long as you're not blatantly ripping off a song, you know, chord to chord, beat to beat, you know.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_05: I always thought, and I don't have it pulled up um right here, but there's a song by Firehouse that I always thought was um rip-off of rat, round and round.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_05: Uh I think we actually talked about it when we featured Firehouse.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_05: Uh that was all she wrote.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_08: You thought that was round and round?
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, the rip the the the riff.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_05: Let me do another example.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_05: I've never heard this song by Avril Levine, Girlfriend, but they're saying that it's too similar to uh Tony Basil's Mickey, I guess.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_05: And also there's a band called the Rubinos, uh, who had a song that supposedly this was that she settled out of court.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_05: So Avril Levine.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_05: Avril Levine, yeah.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_05: So this is her song, Girlfriend.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_05: You know, former Mrs.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_05: Chad Kruger.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I can see the similarities of the buttons.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_09: Nah, I don't even really see I mean it's the it's structured this kind of the same.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_09: Hey, Mickey, yours, you know, that part.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_05: But the drums are doom.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_09: Hey, hey, you, I don't like your girlfriend.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_09: That's yeah, that's that's really weird.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_09: You know, because it it they're you know, once because once Avril Levine's song gets in and that song gets in, I mean they're two completely different songs.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_05: Now what about this one?
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_05: This is uh a band called the Rubinos.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_05: I would can I would consider I hope something similar happens because it doesn't sound anything like it right now.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_09: What's that supposed to be like, Mickey?
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_05: What's supposed to be like uh the Alvaro Levine song?
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_09: Not even close to either one of them.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_05: I can't even hear the similarity.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not sure why that's there.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_09: I why don't we just throw Gwen Stefani's hollow back girl in there?
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, you know, it's the same, you know.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_09: I don't now they're all I don't, you know, structurally, yeah, okay, I could see that, but they're not the same songs.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_09: To be honest with you, I don't.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_05: So here's another one.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_05: This is uh So we're familiar with this one.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_05: Rod Stewart, if you think I'm sexy.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_05: Let's play it for a second.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_05: I think that's enough.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so that song apparently was they accused uh Rod Stewart of plagiarizing, and he later admitted unconscious plagiarism, this artist, Jorge Benhor, his song Taj Mahal.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_04: It's not even the same language It must be it's it's gotta be a musical thing, it must be a melody.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_05: Oh here we go.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_09: That's that's okay, maybe I can see unconscious plagiarism.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_04: But that's like that's the exact same song.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_09: But that's structurally and metal melodically, yeah.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_09: I can see it.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's that's like the exact song.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_09: But it's but it's not the same song.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, of course not.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_09: You know.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_05: Um George Harrison, My Sweet Lord, and the Chiffons, One Fine Day.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_05: You know, we've we've heard that one.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_05: Led Zeppelin's Whole Lot of Love.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_05: Uh was uh they were accused in 1985 of stealing Willie Dixon's song You Need Love, which he'd written for uh for Muddy Waters.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_05: Uh Robert Plant admitted, now happily paid for the pair reached an agreement and settled out of court.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_05: I have I have I think that Led Zeppelin probably settled a lot of court.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_09: I'm thinking so because they did it a lot.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_05: Uh okay, here you go.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_05: Umne Direction.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_05: You're familiar with the the group One Direction.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_09: Unfortunately.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_05: Pour some sugar on me.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_09: I and I don't know where that Yeah, but up until then it wasn't nowhere near uh the same song.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_05: I agree.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_09: So those are some And I'm surprised that that song doesn't get ripped off more because it's everywhere.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_05: It is everywhere.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_09: And it has been everywhere.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_05: You know, so uh and one of my one of my favorite bands, Def Leopard, uh right up there in my top five, and I and I can't that's the only similarity is that but oh no, it's uh Weezer.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_09: Um yeah, right?
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah or something like it.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_05: That's what I mean.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_05: I mean it's it's I don't think they purposely well, production-wise, maybe they were going for that.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_09: But music is so incestuous.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_09: You know, you can't get away from ripping other people off.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, you know, it's just gonna always happen.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_09: As long as you're not blatant about it, it's gonna happen, man.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_09: I don't know.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_09: It's just you know, I I think, you know, it's just people wanting to get paid.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_05: So if you can think of any more songs that are uh eerily similar, please leave a comment on Facebook or send us a message or we can we can bring it up uh we can bring it up next time.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_05: Speaking of incestuous music, uh Comic Crossing song of the day.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_05: That was just a little weird.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_05: I just the term incestuous music just w was that's that's the name of our next album.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_09: Comic Crossing.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_09: Incestuous music.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_09: Look forward and stuff on iTunes.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_05: Um Comic Crossing Song of the Week.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_05: Uh incestuous music.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_05: We found uh if you're just joining us, we found some old cassettes.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_05: Um four-track cassettes.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_05: Uh the the quality of them is even worse than the quality of some of the other things that we've put on this podcast.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_05: Um but including the podcast itself.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_05: But uh that doesn't take away the fact that we we have songs that we haven't shared yet.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_05: And one of these is uh another one that our former member Nate Brewer uh he wrote the words.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_05: I believe I put it to music uh or something like that.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_09: Um that was the usually MO.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he would come in with a poem or something, and I would I would put it to music.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_05: And so that's there's no uh no difference here.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_05: Um this uh hopefully you can hear it uh because it's really soft and really sentimental and uh it sounds like you're sitting next to a fire because it crackles and and spits and it's just And coincidentally it's ripping off it's ripping off Led Zeppelin.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_05: Is it?
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know I'm sure it's somebody should rip off Led Zappa.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_05: I'm sure it's ripping off something uh because you know we had that whole conversation just a few minutes ago.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_09: What conversation?
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_05: Was I there?
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_05: So this one is called Till the End.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_05: Until the End.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, until the End.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_09: I always thought it was just Till the End.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_05: No, I think it's no Till the End is a song by Toto.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_05: Until the End is our song.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, see, we're ripping off Toto.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_09: So there you go.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_05: There you go.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_05: We're told you were ripping off somebody.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_05: All right, so this is the Comedy Crossing song of the week, uh featuring Nate Brewer on lead vocals, and this is his song, actually, Until the End of the United States.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_10: So if you give me just one more chance.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, I thought that was Toto.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_09: I was like, wow, Toto's really really coming along us since this song.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_05: Uh no, that wasn't Toto.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_05: Oh! Sorry, my bad.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_05: That was uh actually it wasn't even Comet Crossing.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_05: No, it wasn't at that point, right?
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_05: It was the Blake Street Boys.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_09: Uh yeah.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_09: Right?
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_09: Very, very, very, very, very early Blake Blake Street Boys.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_05: So I'm trying to think of uh how many songs we did with Nate, how many songs that he had.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_09: 117.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_05: Really?
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_09: I just made up a number.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_05: Um sounded good though.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, so there was uh a lot of our early stuff was uh, you know.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_05: Like songs that he brought in and and I put to music.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_05: Until the end.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_05: Wasn't Girl Girl with a Thousand Dreams in his?
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_05: Nope.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_05: That was uh actually that was collaboration, I think.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_09: Well that was all of us.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, what but I mean like the the writing of it.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_05: Oh this is one that has my wife as a credit.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_05: The girl with a thousand dreams was myself, Nate, and my wife.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, that's right.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_05: Because she has a line in it, I think.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_05: Uh I gave I gave Nate credit for uh half credit for the woman I love.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_05: Oh I don't remember what he did for that song, but it says it here.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_05: So I'm gonna say Leave My Heart Behind was co-written by Nate.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_09: Well I thought that was one of his poems.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_05: It might have been.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_05: Um anyway, Nate, we miss you, bud.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_05: Uh hope things are well.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_05: Not that you listen to the podcast, but because you're mine probably on the bigger and better things.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_09: Um listen to Joe Rogan.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_05: Because we're right up there with Joe Rogan.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_05: That's our competitor.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_09: Joe Rogan us.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_09: We have we have slightly fewer followers.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, slightly.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_05: Um so there you go.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_05: That's your Comic Crossing song of the week.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_05: Uh we're we're running out, I think.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_05: Uh because um I can't remember what else.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_05: Actually, I haven't listened to all of these.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, we could put something awful on there like turn the wheel or something like that.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_05: Um but turn wheel.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_05: I actually like that song.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_05: I did too.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_05: Or certain aspects of it.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe we'll do that next week.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_05: Sure.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_05: Um because that one was uh experimental, to say the least.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_09: We did a lot of experimenting.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_09: Well, you yeah.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_09: That was a lot of experimenting.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_09: I was alone in my apartment a lot.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_01: Porn wasn't invented yet.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_01: Porn, porn, yeah, yeah.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_05: Alright, so uh time to We're gonna climb the wall of tunes.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_01: We probably should.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_01: Just in the nick of time.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_01: Captain Tangent!
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_05: That's up next.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_05: The O'Brien and Doug podcast is brought to you by Mosier Multimedia, a freelance digital design agency specializing in all forms of graphic design for business cards, logo design, brochures, annual reports, backdrops, and everything in between.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_05: They also offer audio production, including voiceovers for commercials or narrated corporate videos, and even custom background music.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_05: They also offer custom t-shirts, sweatshirts, hats, and more, including the latest merchandise for Paul Seer photography.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_05: Visit the online store.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_05: It's all about getting it done right the first time.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_05: MosierMultimedia.com.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_05: KMH Music, Main Street in Prescott, Maine, specializing in new and used musical equipment and repair.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_05: Guitars, basses, keyboards, violins, mandolins, flutes, saxophones, trombones, you name it, they've got it or can get it.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_05: They service and sell all school band instruments and also offer guitar lessons, piano lessons, and more.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_05: KMH Music is now the place for your favorite used vinyl records.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_05: Add to your collection today.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_05: Visit them on Main Street in Prescal Main or on Facebook.com slash King Morton's Hall.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_05: KMH Music.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_05: The O'Brien and Doug Podcast is also brought to you by the Ridgerunner.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_05: Visit Reflections from the Ridgerunner on Facebook.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_05: And my cousin Larry.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_00: I know, I thought you'd jump.
• 43:36
  unknown: What is going on?
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_05: We are back, and it is time to climb the wall of Tunid.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_05: Uh so, Doug, if you'll be so kind as to cover your eyes in some fashion.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_08: Tunit.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_08: Are you covering your eyes in some?
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, give me give me a second here.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_01: Whoopsie.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_01: I dropped my headphone.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-oh, that's not good.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_09: How you how you doing?
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_05: Just try I gotta I'm gonna pull this pull this um artist up.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna pull this artist up so I have some some of the the music ready to go Okay You uh made supper Are you done?
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_05: I'm done Okay Uh Let the guessing begin.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_08: Alright Is it a souna artist or is it a band?
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_08: It is a band What is a genre of band is it?
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_09: Rock Rock band Hmm Let's zapble No Okay was it close?
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_09: No That's fine This shot in the dark brought to you by Jameson Okay Um What uh height of popularity I'm gonna say the nineties.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_09: 90s, really it's Hootie and the Blowfish.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_09: It is not it's Toad the Wet Sprock.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_05: It is not.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_05: We've already done both of those guys.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_09: No, we haven't.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we haven't.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_09: No, we haven't.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we haven't.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_05: No, we haven't.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_05: We've done Toad.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_05: We haven't done Hoodie.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_05: Are you sure?
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_05: Positive.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_05: That's right, because we probably could go on an extended discussion of the book.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_09: We could do a whole podcast about Hootie.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_05: We probably could.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_05: So but it is neither of those.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_09: Um well I'm gonna need some more hints there.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_09: Any uh any virtuoso standouts in the band?
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_05: I don't I don't think so.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_05: No, I don't think so.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_09: So it's common crossing.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_05: No, it's not.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_09: We're from the 90s.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_09: We're a rock band.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_09: Say tracks.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_09: It's not common crossing.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_05: It's not coming crossing.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_05: Uh let's see.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_05: The first album from this band was uh a series of demos by the lead singer.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_05: A lot like uh Boston's first album was done by Tom Schultz.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_05: This first album was done by the lead singer.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_05: For the most part.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_09: With some extra help, but is the band named after the singer?
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_09: How many people in this band?
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_05: Four five.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_05: Five, I believe.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_05: They were their height of popularity was the nineties.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_05: They um they've been they had been relatively um active and relevant probably until 2010.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_05: I think they're still relevant, but they're not doing at least you don't hear about them anymore.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_09: Is it the gin blossoms?
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_05: Nope.
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_09: Am I close?
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_05: Yes and no.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_09: Super helpful, thank you.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_05: Um I think they originate in Atlanta, Georgia.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_09: Is it REM?
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_05: Nope.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_05: At least I think they do.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_05: That may not even help you.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_09: They didn't originate in 80s.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_10: Right.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_09: Not sure, man.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_05: Um they were at first their first song and uh they were thought to be a Christian band.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, is it Life House?
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_09: Nope.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_09: Thought to be a Christian band.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_09: Oh Black Sabbath.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_09: No.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_09: Everybody thinks everybody thinks they're a Christian band.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, it's Slayer?
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_09: Is it Slayer?
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_09: You're on the right track.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, I'm Slayer.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_09: Testament.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_09: I don't know.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_05: There were two um brothers in the band.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_09: Nelson.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_09: They were brothers.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but they were from the 80s.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_09: Is it Oasis?
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_09: No.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_09: They're brothers.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_09: The Everly Brothers?
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_05: We do two of their songs.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_05: We do?
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_05: Or we we do yeah, we have done two of their songs.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_09: As the acoustic duo or as Common Crossing?
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_05: As Common Crossing.
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_09: I don't know, man.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_05: You don't know?
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_09: I have I have no clue.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_09: There's not a lot of hints here, so.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I'm trying.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_05: Um Let's see.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_05: One of their songs is in drop D.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_05: Is that with the one that we play?
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_05: Super.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_05: One of the ones that we play.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_05: Um The lead singer has a kind of a unique voice.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_05: Um at least I think so.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_05: He's a little he's a little odd.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_05: Not really odd, but just kind of um eccentric.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_05: Um he was compared to Paul McCartney.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_05: I read that somewhere.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_09: I don't know, man.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_05: This is start playing a song.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_09: I I because I don't know.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_05: You'll get it as soon as I play it.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, probably.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_05: Uh this is one of the ones that we that we do.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, it's oh friggin' hell.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_05: Hold on a second.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_05: This is not in stereo, so.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_05: It's collective soul.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_05: It is collective soul.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_09: See, I I never, you know, if I hadn't heard the song, I wouldn't have got it.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_05: That's why, because I didn't have it turned up here.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_11: I love it.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 51:08
  unknown: I love it.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_05: So this is the album that I picked.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, is that uh self-titled.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_05: It's a self-titled album, which I think is their second.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_09: I think so, yeah.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, because the first one is the hints and allegations.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_05: Things left unsaid, yeah.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_05: Which is a quote of quote from uh Paul Simon uh thing.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_09: I like that album.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_09: I do too.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_05: That's the one that was based on demos that Ed Rollins.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_05: Right, right, right.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_05: Most of them were the demos.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_05: Uh but they like the guitar player would come in and do a solo on it and shine.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_05: We have done shine.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_05: And when that first song song first came out, uh, because he kept saying, Haven't let your light shine, oh, they're a Christian rock band.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, that that I never I don't think I've ever heard that.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they were uh they were compared to that.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_05: Um but then on this album, I mean that sh the Hints, Allegations and Things Left Unsaid, which is their debut album, had some great songs on it.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah, I love that album.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_05: But this this album had obviously you just heard Gel, but it also had this a couple of huge hits.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, this is a great song.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_05: Right?
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_05: Song called December.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_05: Uh this was I can't even what year was if you had to guess the year on this, what would you say?
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_09: I was gonna say like 96, 97.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_05: Well, this album came out in 95, so this song was probably 96, 97.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_04: Um creepy.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_09: I love it.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm gonna play one more from this album.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_05: Just the just the hits.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_05: And the B sides, not B sides, but the album cuts.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_05: See what I mean?
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_05: Unique voice.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_05: Ed Rollin has a unique voice.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_05: Nobody else sounded like him.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_05: Not really, no.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_05: Uh so the track listing for this album is uh called uh well, I it goes like this.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_05: Actually, I want to have this song ready before I do the track listing because I want to see if you remember this song.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_05: I'm sure you will.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_05: See if you remember this.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_09: I remember the song, but I don't remember the name of it.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_05: It's called The World I Know.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_09: Yes, yes.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so this the the song list on this album goes a song called Simple, song called Untitled, The World I Know, Smashing Young Man, which is also a good song.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_05: December, where the river flows.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_05: Remember that song?
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_05: Well, she gathers rain, when the water falls, collection of goods, bleed, and reunion.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_05: So the ones that were released were uh December, this song right here, The World I Know.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_05: And Gel, I believe.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think there was a gel.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think there was anything else on the song.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_09: I don't think so, though.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_05: But very I mean, just solid.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_05: Solid rock and roll.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it wasn't flashy, it was just really good rock and roll.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_05: And they you know, and you know the song Shine, I suppose I see for those of you because we like to spotlight not just albums but artists, right?
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_05: So you know this this song uh here just because it was huge.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_05: It was a debut and it was huge.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_01: Well it's made our set list a few times.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, it has, as has Jell.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_11: Give me a one, give me a sound.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_11: Show me where to look.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_04: That's like a signature.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_04: That's a hook.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_09: It is, yeah.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_05: Such a such a great song and such a I love this song.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_05: Um but then they had uh like in the early two thousands, they had a string of hits that were like pop rock.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_05: Like this one.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_05: It's called Better Now.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_09: Never heard it.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, thanks.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_09: Adaptation.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_09: That's a great lie, isn't it?
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_09: Oh no, I have heard this song.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I recognize I recognize this one.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_05: And then they had they had um there was another one that that was a big hit for them.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_04: Um very popped compared to their other stuff.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_04: Almost sounds like it's from the 80s, doesn't it?
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_06: The car, the card.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_00: Sounds like the car.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_00: Sounds like honey honey.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it does.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_00: Sugar sugar, sugar, sugar, yeah.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_00: Oh the architect.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_09: But speaking of song ripoffs.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, what I'm what I'm saying is they were consistent.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and then um I think they've they've put out I should look that up, but um they've put out uh a number of albums.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_05: Heavy.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, heavy is a good song.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_05: You ever heard that one?
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_05: Um maybe they have ten studio albums.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_05: That's that's a lot.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_09: Well, I mean, that's as many as uh Led Zeppelin had.
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_05: So um let me play a little bit of of Heavy.
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_05: This is another it's a it's a modern rock type tune.
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_05: Actually, this is taking I haven't read the lyrics, but I think this song I don't think it says heavy in it anywhere.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_05: Of course, it's just all your weight falls on me.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_09: Well, weight heavy.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_09: I see it, yeah.
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_09: I don't remember, I don't think I've heard this one.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_05: It's a great song, and this is a great album too, called Dosich.
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_05: Um, but again, consistent, uh, these guys with with I mean with their sound.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_05: They they've tried, they've gone a couple different ways and tried to stay relevant, but always ha had that core sound to them.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_09: Well, I like it, you know, like you said before, consistent.
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I mean, just always you knew what you were gonna get when you got a collective soul album.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_05: Yep, exactly.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_09: You're just gonna get good, you know, good rock music.
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_05: And I do think Ed Rolland is one of those underappreciated songwriters.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I think because um his lyrics are I mean, it's it's really clever and and pure poetry.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_05: Um so I highly recommend Collective Soul.
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_05: The album that we chose today uh happened to be the self-titled album, which means it was just called Collective Soul.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_05: Steve.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_05: But all of their all of their songs are full of just fantastic rock and roll.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_05: So you won't be disappointed.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_05: I should say all of their albums are full of fantastic rock and roll.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_05: Collective soul, and a cool name for a band.
• 1:00:15
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it's a very cool name.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I can I can kind of see why people thought they were a Christian band.
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_05: I yeah, you know, because Collective Soul and they come out with Shine.
• 1:00:22
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, very first out of the gate.
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, singing about God.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_09: Isn't Skillet a Christian man?
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_05: They are, yeah.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_05: So, you know, so you know Skillet has an amazing drummer.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_05: I told you, I told you that.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we were talking about her last night.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_05: Jen Ledger, yeah.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_05: She's awesome.
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_05: She's not the original drummer, who is also female.
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_05: She replaced her, but she's fantastic.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_05: Anyway.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, and uh Bob Blanchard thought of another female voice, um, Martha Davis from the Motels.
• 1:00:49
  SPEAKER_05: Uh do you remember the Motels?
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_03: Only the Lonely Girls.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, okay.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_05: He sent a message.
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah, I totally forget.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_09: Okay, yeah.
• 1:00:59
  SPEAKER_05: Um, okay, so that's it.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_05: That's uh season five, episode ten.
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_09: Halfway through the season.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_09: Halfway through the season.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_09: Let's do a halfway uh through the podcast season recap.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_09: It's been great.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_09: There we go.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_01: We haven't once again, we haven't had any guests on.
• 1:01:17
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we well, we gotta just have some.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_09: Let's just land on the invite.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_09: I want to let's have Joel on.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_09: I think it would be cool to have Joel on.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_05: I think it would be fantastic to have Joel on.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_05: He's a busy guy.
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_05: Let's let's have somebody on.
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_05: Well It's about coordinating.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_09: I know it's it's it's more complicated.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_09: I understand that.
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_05: We we gotta stop showing up here uh on Monday or Tuesday night saying what do you want to talk about?
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_05: Because we have other things going on.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_09: You know, um but we gotta getting a guest on requires you know preparation, and we're just not you know and like a producer unless it's preparation age, then we're no good at it.
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_05: So but like a producer or like a like a show uh runner or something, that's about what we need because we We need an adult.
• 1:02:00
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_05: That's what we need is an adult.
• 1:02:03
  SPEAKER_09: Your wife should be in charge of her podcast.
• 1:02:06
  SPEAKER_09: Hey.
• 1:02:07
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, no.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_09: Not quite that adult.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_09: Let's back it off a little bit.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, adultish.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_05: She would be great, but uh she is how can I put this?
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_05: Um she doesn't even make phone calls.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, she's she doesn't talk to people.
• 1:02:28
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, she's and I don't blame her.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_05: Number one, she works all the time.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_05: Number two, she's a little bit shy.
• 1:02:32
  SPEAKER_05: Uh and people sock it.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_05: People sock it right.
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they do order.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_05: They really do.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_05: Um, so i i we'll get somebody.
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_05: We'll uh we'll talk to Joel and see if he's got some.
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_05: I'd like to talk about it.
• 1:02:42
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it'd be it'd be nice to talk to Joe.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_05: Because we have talked about having him on a couple times, you know.
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_05: And he's agreed to it.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_05: It's just a matter of pinning him down.
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_09: I don't know how busy he is right now, but uh I mean he's a he's a top dog in the school system.
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, he is a principal.
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_05: So uh assistant superintendent, I believe.
• 1:02:59
  SPEAKER_05: Is he?
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 1:03:01
  SPEAKER_09: So is that a new thing?
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_05: I think it's newish?
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_05: Newish.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think it's really new, but I think it's relatively recent.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I'd like to have Joel on.
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_09: Because I mean he's I mean he's been in bands as long as we have.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_09: Maybe maybe I don't know much longer, but uh we all start around some time.
• 1:03:18
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so well who we're talking about is Joel Hall, uh who's a member of the Star City Syndicate with us.
• 1:03:23
  SPEAKER_05: Um and when Comic Crossing started, I think his other band, Too Far North, uh, were starting around the same time, maybe a little bit before uh we did uh yeah, we we've come up together through the yeah, you know, through the circuit.
• 1:03:37
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so we can we can talk shop with Joel and I'm sure he's got some amazing stories.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_09: Um but we still gotta have our drummer episode with uh Pat and Morton.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 1:03:48
  SPEAKER_09: We do did we do a bass player one?
• 1:03:51
  SPEAKER_05: We were waiting.
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_09: We gotta have Shane on.
• 1:03:53
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, we gotta have Shane on, but he's he's being Professor Shane.
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so Shane is uh Shane is teaching uh college course.
• 1:04:00
  SPEAKER_05: Um so his time is pretty Yeah.
• 1:04:03
  SPEAKER_09: We can have Joko on again sometime soon.
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_05: I would love to have Joke.
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_09: I was just you know, just to just to talk to Joko, see what he's you know because he's you know running the uh running the uh circuit in Nashville.
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_05: Actually all over the country.
• 1:04:16
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, he's been with a bunch of different artists and he's yeah, he's touring all over the country, so but he's based in Nashville.
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, I I would like to have Joko on as well.
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_05: Uh we'll make it happen.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_05: Uh we got ten episodes left in this season.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_05: So plenty of time.
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_05: Plenty of time.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_05: Plenty of time.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_05: All right, so until then.
• 1:04:31
  SPEAKER_09: So next week we're just gonna wing it again.
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_09: I'm sure we will.
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_09: That's what we do.
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_09: That's our strength.
• 1:04:35
  SPEAKER_09: You stick to your strengths.
• 1:04:37
  SPEAKER_09: And our strength is winging it.
• 1:04:38
  SPEAKER_09: We should be birds.
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_05: I'll reach out to Joel and uh see if we can make something work with Joel for next week.
• 1:04:46
  SPEAKER_05: How's that sound?
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:04:49
  SPEAKER_05: Uh alright, that's it.
• 1:04:50
  SPEAKER_01: Episode 10 out of season five.
• 1:04:52
  SPEAKER_01: I'm uh O'Brien.
• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'm the other guy.
• 1:04:54
  SPEAKER_01: Bye, everybody! I think his name is Doug.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_00: Say bye.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_09: One syllable.
• 1:04:59
  SPEAKER_09: Doug.
• 1:05:00
  unknown: Doug, duck, dun.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_09: Say goodbye.
• 1:05:03
  SPEAKER_09: I was hiding under your porch because I loved it.
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_01: Say goodbye.
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_01: Goodbye.
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_01: I love you.
• 1:05:16
  SPEAKER_05: The O'Brien and Doug Podcast is brought to you in part by Mojarmultimedia.com, KMH Music and PressCalm 8, Twitter in Westfield Bay, and Doug's Cousin Lilly.
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_05: Make sure to follow O'Brien and Doug on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube.
• 1:05:30
  SPEAKER_05: Drop them an email anytime at O'Brienanduck at gmail.com.
• 1:05:34
  SPEAKER_09: We'll be playing with your fill.
• 1:05:36
  SPEAKER_09: You gotta walk in the mall.