Latest / Living Loud and Proud: Disability Conversations / History of Wheelchair Part 2
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- 0:23And now, here is your host. Welcome to the Living
- 0:28Loud and Proud podcast, season two, episode two,
- 0:32from Disability Pride, Pennsylvania. I'm your
- 0:36host, Phill Rosen. Today, I'm chatting with my
- 0:39co -producer, Ray 'DECA' Horton, about the wheelchair
- 0:42designs and designers of the past and now. Hello,
- 0:46folks. Yeah. How's it going, Ray? So, yeah, so
- 0:52we're going to just kind of really quickly go
- 0:54through all of the different, like, kinds of
- 0:56wheelchairs there are, kind of try to highlight
- 0:59a little bit of some of the wheelchair designers
- 1:02who are disabled individuals themselves, and
- 1:07kind of talk about some of the more specialized
- 1:10wheelchairs as well. But broadly speaking, that's
- 1:15the main focus of today. So let's just get started
- 1:20on the different types of wheelchairs. So the
- 1:24first category of wheelchairs I want to talk
- 1:26about is the manual self -propelled wheelchair.
- 1:30There's a couple of different types, as I'm sure
- 1:34a lot of you are aware of. The first type is
- 1:38the folding chair. You know, these are the classic
- 1:43kind of like X -brace designs that you would
- 1:46see like in hospitals and nursing homes or other
- 1:50places that would have wheelchairs available.
- 1:53But this isn't self -propelled though, right?
- 1:56Well, some are, some are not. Most hospital chairs,
- 2:01I don't believe, have wheels big enough on the
- 2:04back to propel yourself with. I do want to talk
- 2:09a little bit about the X -Brace design, because
- 2:13as people who listened to the last episode of
- 2:16the podcast might remember, that was created
- 2:19by the company Everest and Jennings. And specifically,
- 2:27Herbert Everest was paralyzed in a mining accident,
- 2:30and he was designing a wheelchair that was a
- 2:33little more lightweight, a little more portable,
- 2:35a little easier for everyone. cornering the market.
- 2:39Okay. I'm sorry. I got a little bit confused
- 2:42when you said self -propelled. I'm thinking that
- 2:43the wheelchair itself propels itself. So you're
- 2:47talking about manual propelled ones. Yes. Manual
- 2:52propelled. Yeah. Self -propelling meaning the
- 2:54user can propel the wheelchair. So, but yeah.
- 3:02But yeah, Herbert Everest was, you know, instrumental
- 3:05in creating the first like modern wheelchair
- 3:07design. And, you know, the X -Brace, when you
- 3:11think about it too, like, you know, it looks
- 3:15a lot like those camping chairs that people will
- 3:19like go to like shows out on the lawn. Like they
- 3:22go to the man center here in Philly or something
- 3:24like that. You'll see a lot of those there. So
- 3:29that's like the first kind of like, of manually
- 3:33propelled or self -propelled wheelchair that's
- 3:37out there. The other kind that a lot of people
- 3:40would know about is the rigid frame wheelchair.
- 3:44Now, these are usually custom built for the user.
- 3:49One probably very common example and one of the
- 3:54earliest examples that I could find was the Quickie
- 3:58wheelchair. Okay. Yeah. And the quickie wheelchair,
- 4:02as you know, people will probably remember from
- 4:05the last episode as well, was designed by a team
- 4:10of three designers. It was Marilyn Hamilton,
- 4:14who was paralyzed in a hang gliding accident.
- 4:20Jim Okamoto and Don Helman. And so like these.
- 4:29Features were really created to create an even
- 4:32better wheelchair for users to use. Something
- 4:37that's custom built to their body, fits them
- 4:40perfectly, is lighter, easier to maneuver, all
- 4:46of those different things. Right. Now, something
- 4:51that's common between the two types of wheelchairs
- 4:54that we just described is the frame, obviously.
- 4:58They each have a frame. You know, they're distinct
- 5:01frames, but they are frames. They each have a
- 5:04seat. Usually they have foot plates or a single
- 5:10foot plate. You know, there are different types
- 5:13of foot plates, obviously. Right. The single
- 5:14foot plate being the wide one that goes the expanse
- 5:17of the wheelchair itself. Right, exactly. And
- 5:21then there's the dual foot plate, which, you
- 5:23know, sometimes those are removable. Sometimes
- 5:25they're, you know. rigid stuck on the the chair
- 5:28itself there's four wheels, two usually two
- 5:33large back wheels and two caster wheels in the
- 5:35front right they there's often a seat cushion
- 5:39for comfort to you know help prevent you know
- 5:43things like stress sores and stuff like that
- 5:46as well as to me it was a big problem having
- 5:49the right cushion Oh, for sure. For sure. You
- 5:53know, anyone who's in a more sedentary position
- 5:56for whatever reason, you know, those types of
- 5:59sores are really important to avoid. Right. All
- 6:02sorts of different problems. They often include
- 6:06push rims on the back wheels. So, you know, those
- 6:10are like the like if you ever look at wheelchairs,
- 6:12you know, they are on the outside of the wheels.
- 6:16Usually it helps prevent the wheelchair user
- 6:18from getting their hands as dirty. Right. Especially
- 6:21when it's like really nasty out. The push rim
- 6:24is that little, usually chrome wheel folks that
- 6:28you see like right at the center that's extended
- 6:31out. And that's where they're used, like Phill
- 6:33said. Yeah. And usually there are brakes on the
- 6:38back wheels. Now, these are, they're locks, really.
- 6:41They're not exactly something that you would
- 6:43use to actively brake in the same way that you
- 6:47would. say, like on a bike, for instance. These
- 6:51are just like when you're stationary so you don't
- 6:53wind up rolling down the hill. Right, exactly.
- 6:58Or, you know, when you're transferring, you don't
- 7:00have the wheelchair going all over the place.
- 7:02It's a lot safer for people. Now, materials that
- 7:07are used are, you know, they're usually aluminum,
- 7:11titanium, or carbon fiber. Titanium and carbon
- 7:15fiber usually are not, covered by most insurance
- 7:19here in America right you know because the
- 7:23materials are a lot more expensive than say aluminum
- 7:27and then some chairs have some extra features
- 7:32like shock absorbers and you know the camber
- 7:36angles are often you know modified for
- 7:44stability and whatnot And also a lot of wheelchairs
- 7:49have quick release axles, which usually they
- 7:52consist of like a pin in the center of the wheel
- 7:55that goes into the axle and you can easily and
- 7:58quickly remove the wheels that way. Right. Now
- 8:04there are also attendant propelled wheelchairs
- 8:08that are manual. Those are usually, you know,
- 8:14what you would see in a hospital. So institutional,
- 8:19large venue based. They're usually a lot heavier
- 8:23than self -propelled. You know, sometimes they're
- 8:26made out of things like steel or, you know, heavier
- 8:31materials than, say, aluminum even. So that's
- 8:36like kind of the two types of like manual chairs
- 8:39in general that exist. Now we have power chairs.
- 8:47Which, you know, those were invented in part
- 8:51by a grant in Canada for George Klein. And this
- 9:00was when? This was in the 1950s. 1952, I believe,
- 9:04was the first beginnings of it. They went to
- 9:08the market in 1956. You know, Everest and Jennings,
- 9:13of course, cornered the market on it. when it
- 9:15hit the market became mass produced here in America
- 9:18so you know for a long time there was only
- 9:22one developer of wheelchairs or a company that
- 9:26made wheelchairs for most people gadget to use
- 9:30now these are generally electric powered so
- 9:35they have batteries and often have like a
- 9:39little joystick attached to them that you know
- 9:42the wheelchair user can used to propel the
- 9:46chair. And there's like a couple of different
- 9:49types of power chairs as well. There's indoor
- 9:54chairs, which they reliably really only work
- 9:59on flat surfaces, like flat, smooth surfaces,
- 10:03like hardwood floors. Maybe a tile floor would
- 10:06be okay. They're the slippers version of wheelchairs.
- 10:12Exactly, exactly. Then there's like indoor -outdoor
- 10:16chairs, which are less limited to like an indoor
- 10:19chair. But if there's a steep grade, like a heavy
- 10:22slope, probably not going to be able to climb
- 10:25that very easily, if at all. And then there are
- 10:29outdoor chairs, of course. And they're more capable
- 10:33than the indoor -outdoor chairs, but they still
- 10:35have a lot left to be desired when it comes to
- 10:40things like snow, rain. Yeah. Don't even think
- 10:46about going to the beach with one of these. Right.
- 10:51So, you know, and then there's like these kind
- 10:56of specialist designs. These are highly specialized
- 10:59and can traverse most terrain. You know, one
- 11:04example, and this is generally not covered by
- 11:08insurance in my research, is the iBot, which
- 11:11who is. invented by Dean Kamen if anyone
- 11:15remembers the early 2000s, he created the Segway
- 11:18Okay. and it uses the same kind of similar
- 11:22technology, gyroscopic technology and there's
- 11:27four powered drive wheels and two caster wheels
- 11:29it has a couple of different modes standard
- 11:33mode which is you know just two drive wheels
- 11:36on the ground with the two caster wheels Four
- 11:39-wheel mode uses the four -wheel drive wheels
- 11:41on the ground, which handles, you know, the rougher
- 11:44terrain that you might experience. Dean Kamen
- 11:47lives in New Hampshire, up in New England. So,
- 11:51you know, things like snow, rain, sleet. Ah,
- 11:54yeah. And sometimes you can, you know, go onto
- 12:00like harder packed beaches. So some sandy terrain
- 12:03as well. Right. Can also handle curbs. Like small
- 12:08curbs. Okay. Balance mode, which raises the user
- 12:13to eye level height. Oh, yes. Those. On the two
- 12:19drive wheels. And then stair mode allows trained
- 12:26users to ascend and descend stairs, which, you
- 12:29know, for a lot of people is a huge thing, given
- 12:33how many places in the world don't actually have
- 12:35ramps. Of any kind or elevators or anything like
- 12:41that. And, you know, sometimes even lifts, like
- 12:45places that have lifts, the lift is out of commission
- 12:49or really janky. Right. Whatever. We see so often.
- 12:53Right, exactly. And, you know, obviously these
- 12:59powered chairs are generally heavier than manual
- 13:02chairs, mostly because of the electrics. the
- 13:07battery, the motor. The frame can be heavy as
- 13:11well, because it needs to be more robust to be
- 13:14able to handle all of the different stresses
- 13:17that having the electric motor and the torque
- 13:19with that can bring. So now we're going to move
- 13:23on to mobility scooters, which are a little bit
- 13:27more controversial. Opinions divided as to whether
- 13:30they can be considered wheelchairs. They do share
- 13:32some features with power chairs. You know, they
- 13:38have a motor, the battery power, all that kind
- 13:41of stuff. Right. Primarily intended for people
- 13:44who have a limited ability to walk people, you
- 13:47know, maybe people who have CP or, you know,
- 13:50have fatigue issues. Can't be on their feet too
- 13:54long. Yeah. Can't go long distances without some
- 13:56assistance. Usually typically they're three wheeled.
- 14:00They have a base control tiller in a seat. The
- 14:03control tiller is often connected to. a wheel
- 14:07on the front. And then there's two in the back
- 14:09that, you know, where the seat is closer to.
- 14:13And there are four wheeled scooters that have
- 14:17a more substantial seat. They tend to be for
- 14:19individuals that have, you know, are larger.
- 14:27Gotcha. So, you know, they need the extra wheel
- 14:31to maintain stability. And then there's actually,
- 14:39we're going to move on to a subset of manual
- 14:43self -propelled wheelchairs. Manual self -propelled?
- 14:48Yeah, they're single -arm drive wheelchairs.
- 14:50And these are wheelchairs that enable one -arm
- 14:56propulsion. So this is for wheelchair users who
- 15:01are... don't have a limb or amputees, whatever,
- 15:09and are unable to walk long distances or. Yeah.
- 15:14They usually have two concentric hand rims on
- 15:19the wheel that is being used to propel the chair.
- 15:23And usually the way that it works is there's
- 15:31one hand rim on the inside. That's like, it's
- 15:38a larger diameter rim usually. Got it. But it's
- 15:41like further like into the wheel itself. Like
- 15:45it's closer to the wheel. Right. And then there's
- 15:47the smaller rim on the outside. That's usually
- 15:50a smaller diameter. And it's connected to
- 15:53the opposite wheel via a smaller concentric
- 15:56angle or axle, excuse me, not angle. So if
- 16:05you want to go straight you grasp both hand rims
- 16:07and if you grasp one or the other you'll turn
- 16:12in whatever direction. Got it. You want I
- 16:18to kind of wrap my head around this I had to
- 16:21watch some videos on YouTube. Thanks to all of
- 16:23the people on YouTube who are users of these
- 16:28single arm drive wheelchairs right for doing
- 16:31that because I was having such a hard time wrapping
- 16:35my head around it. Trying to just visualize it
- 16:38with your imagination. Right, exactly. For some
- 16:42users who have a little bit more dexterity in
- 16:45their lower limbs there are some models that
- 16:50control steering via a foot plate using the
- 16:54front casters. Okay. So basically, from what I could
- 17:00kind of gather, this is kind of like similar
- 17:03to having like pedals and you would press pedal
- 17:06depending on which direction you want to go.
- 17:08Right. I get it. Yeah. And then there we're moving
- 17:15on to reclining or tilting chairs. So reclining
- 17:22chairs have a seat back that tilts backwards,
- 17:24similar to say a recliner. that someone might
- 17:28have in their living room or den. Right. There
- 17:32are both manual and power chairs that have this
- 17:38feature. Some allow the user to lie completely
- 17:41flat. They're, you know, obviously the, you know,
- 17:46people who have like say spinal cord injuries
- 17:50or whatnot would use most likely a power chair.
- 17:54Right. Because. you know they will have limited
- 17:58ability anyone who has severe you know limit
- 18:03severe mobility issues you know or don't have
- 18:07the strength for to handle a manual wheel. Right
- 18:10and and tilting chairs have a seat back base
- 18:17and leg rest that tilt back as a single unit
- 18:20These are mainly used for individuals who need
- 18:23to maintain a particular posture or have other
- 18:27needs in a relative position throughout the day.
- 18:30Think of people who might be paralyzed in one
- 18:38form or another. They're also common amongst
- 18:42people with cerebral palsy, which, you know,
- 18:45that's... That makes sense in a lot of ways,
- 18:50too, because of the ways in which cerebral palsy
- 18:52can manifest itself in the body. Right. That
- 18:57limits their mobility in all the different joints
- 19:01that they have. They're more common than reclining
- 19:10chairs when we're talking about wheelchairs designed
- 19:14for children. Because like with the reclining
- 19:18chairs like you would have to it's like shoes...
- 19:22Right yeah. You would have to you know constantly
- 19:26keep changing it for a growing child...Yeah.
- 19:31...throughout their life and it's generally more
- 19:35resource effective to use something that you
- 19:38don't need to replace every year or every six
- 19:40months. Exactly. And then there's also standing
- 19:46wheelchairs, which allow for the user to be supported
- 19:49in a nearly standing position. There are power
- 19:54and manual chairs with this option. Manual standing
- 19:58chairs can be entirely manual, meaning that there
- 20:02are like a series of levers that someone would
- 20:05manually use to work with this, you know, stand
- 20:11up. Or have a full powered stand function. So
- 20:15like maybe it's a self -propelled wheelchair,
- 20:19right? Like a user propelled wheelchair, but
- 20:21you know, they would have to, they have like
- 20:25a little switch or whatever that they can use
- 20:28to stand up with. Right. Now there are a lot
- 20:33of benefits to this. I think the benefits are
- 20:35probably pretty obvious. They foster independence
- 20:39and productivity. Increased psychological well
- 20:44-being. Exactly. Social status. So extended access.
- 20:51And it can ease a lot of medical conditions by
- 20:54reducing pressure, reducing pressure sores like
- 20:57we talked about. Improve respiration in individuals
- 21:00that need that extra support for their diaphragm.
- 21:06Reduced occurrence of UTIs in individuals that
- 21:11are prone to them. Improve flexibility. Maintain
- 21:15the bone mineral density, which is really important
- 21:18for some people with disabilities to maintain
- 21:23because, you know, reduced motion will all go
- 21:28away. You got to take into consideration corrective
- 21:32measures for your well -being and your health
- 21:34with your wheelchair. And some of these are specifically
- 21:38designed just for that, you know, going back
- 21:41to what you stated in the beginning, talking
- 21:43about the posture, you know, someone who needs
- 21:46to be healing, like maybe from a spinal cord
- 21:50injury, you know, they can't be in a wheelchair
- 21:54slump, you know, there's chances for them to
- 21:57regain some kind of mobility, you know? Yeah.
- 22:00I, yeah, I get it. All right. And now, folks,
- 22:05we're moving on to sports chairs. A lot of these
- 22:10chairs tend to be non-folding chairs to have
- 22:15increased rigidity, which is important, especially
- 22:18in contact -type sports. Think wheelchair rugby
- 22:22or football, hockey, whatever you might be playing.
- 22:34They have a pronounced negative camber a lot
- 22:37of the time, which increases stability and allows
- 22:39for sharp turns. Very important for people who
- 22:43are doing various track and field type turns.
- 22:50They're often made of extra lightweight composite
- 22:53materials. And this is to help enhance the speed.
- 23:02that someone might be able to propel themselves
- 23:05that. They're often customized to the sport.
- 23:09So like, you know, some types of chairs, they're
- 23:14designed for the user to be seated, you know,
- 23:17like in a wheelchair rugby type chair. And racing
- 23:22chairs are generally designed for the user to
- 23:24kneel. And actually one notable person that I
- 23:29want to mention here, is Bob Hull (Mispronounced, should be Hall), who he participated
- 23:34in the Boston Marathon in a self-designed wheelchair.
- 23:39And this wheelchair was necessary for him because
- 23:44he had polio as a child and reduced mobility
- 23:48as a result in his adulthood. Yeah. And this
- 23:59was actually a wheelchair that was put on display
- 24:01at MoMA in the 1980s, as people might remember
- 24:06from the last episode. Okay. So a very important
- 24:12individual. He designed several wheelchairs,
- 24:15including some non-sports type wheelchairs as
- 24:18well. But the sports wheelchairs are probably
- 24:22very notable because those are very similar
- 24:27to what you would see today, like a Paralympian
- 24:31may use. And there are power chair sports that
- 24:36exist like hockey or, or power chair football
- 24:40or soccer here in America, us damn Yankees. But
- 24:50yeah, so let's move on to some all-terrain chairs.
- 24:56There are two formats. There's like the wheelchair
- 25:03mountain bike hybrid, which this is a wheelchair
- 25:06frame that generally has like four mountain bike
- 25:09tires. So instead of having caster wheels, there
- 25:13would be two bike tires on the front as well
- 25:18as on the back. Generally, there's no push rims
- 25:22and the propulsion is by pushing directly on
- 25:24the tires. So, you know, your hands are probably
- 25:29going to get a little bit dirty. But, you know,
- 25:31if you're off-roading, it probably doesn't matter
- 25:33that much. And then there are beach wheelchairs,
- 25:39which they either will have, like, extra wide
- 25:43balloon wheels, you know, that, like, allow the
- 25:50weight to be spread out a little bit more. So
- 25:52that helps with things that are easily compressible,
- 25:54like sand. Or snow. It helps increase the stability
- 25:59and decrease the pressure on the ground. And
- 26:04the other type of tires that you might see would
- 26:07be like a track tire, something similar to like,
- 26:10say, a backhoe or a tank. Right. And then there
- 26:18are also like smart wheelchairs. which are like
- 26:22any power chair that uses a control system to
- 26:24augment or replace user control. Generally computer
- 26:29controlled in some fashion. There's often a suite
- 26:35of sensors that apply mobile robotic techniques.
- 26:39Things like ultrasonic acoustic range finders,
- 26:43something that you might think of more colloquially
- 26:48as SONAR even though that is like a brand name,
- 26:53I think. Right. And, or an infrared red range
- 26:58finder, which, you know, when you think like
- 27:02IR sensors, like think like a TV remote. Wait a minute, hold
- 27:06on. Okay. All right. Yeah. Yeah. So, and the
- 27:11interface can be one of three different types
- 27:15of things. Generally a joystick, you know, like,
- 27:19on other power chairs, uh, a sip and puff device,
- 27:24which you know, when, when you think about
- 27:27those, those are like those little like
- 27:32mouthpieces that some wheelchairs might have.
- 27:37There's like usually...Yeah...it comes up and,
- 27:41and goes to the user's mouth. Right. And
- 27:45for people who have like basically no, And others
- 27:50like him have that same. Yes. And then, you know,
- 27:57for people who maybe don't have like the ability
- 27:59to use a joystick, but have some range of motion
- 28:02in their arms, a touch sensitive display could
- 28:06be used. So, you know, this would be like, you
- 28:10know, a touch screen in front of their face or,
- 28:13you know, close by that they would. used to power
- 28:18the wheelchair and propel it. Right. And
- 28:23now we're going to get into, I think one of the
- 28:25more interesting parts of all this stuff, there's
- 28:28like accessories that, that go along with
- 28:32wheelchairs. So there are like powered devices
- 28:36that you can attach to manual wheelchairs,
- 28:41self propelled wheelchairs. So there's like
- 28:45some powered and you know, less powered.
- 28:51You know, one of the more common type of power
- 28:55devices that, you know, you might see would be
- 28:58something like the Smart Drive, which is a motor
- 29:02encased in a housing with a wheel on the back.
- 29:06You attach it to the back of the wheelchair and
- 29:10it helps people who are using their wheelchair
- 29:15to move about more easily through the world on
- 29:18relatively level surfaces. This is good for people
- 29:23who have, you know, some ability to use a manual
- 29:27wheelchair, but maybe need a little bit of help
- 29:30to get through their day or, or, you know, have
- 29:36some, you know, requirements to move around a
- 29:40lot in a way that maybe is very tiring for them.
- 29:46There are also things called hand cycles, which
- 29:50they clip to the front of the chair, usually
- 29:54like on the foot plate. They have pedals on the
- 29:59front and usually you would use your hands to
- 30:02propel them that way. And then there's also a
- 30:10device that's similar to the hand cycle. called
- 30:13the Free Wheel, which is like a dolly wheel that
- 30:15is often attached to the front of a manual wheelchair.
- 30:19This improves the performance over rough terrain.
- 30:22So like, you know, people who have like maybe
- 30:26a rigid wheelchair that normally you wouldn't
- 30:29want to go off -roading with, but they want to
- 30:31go hike or something on like a, you know, unpaved
- 30:37path of some sort, that could be a good option
- 30:40to work with. Okay. You would propel the chair
- 30:45using the rear wheels of the chair. So it, you
- 30:48know, it's literally just a wheel that's on the
- 30:50front. And then there's like some other wheelchair
- 30:55designs that, you know, are really kind of interesting,
- 30:58like the Leveraged Freedom Chair. You know, this
- 31:04was designed by the MIT Mobility Lab. It's low
- 31:08cost. Intended to be used in like places in developing
- 31:15countries that are like rural. So like, you know,
- 31:19think like rural India or, you know, Africa or
- 31:25even, you know, maybe more impoverished places
- 31:28and places like South America would be good examples
- 31:32of where these would be intended to be used.
- 31:36They they use local materials often they share
- 31:40a lot of parts with bikes which are...Right...you
- 31:45know and this makes it so it's very easy for
- 31:49people who get stranded somewhere with their
- 31:53wheelchair to be able to fix it because they
- 31:55don't need to have specialized wrenches they
- 31:56can literally just go you know have a set of
- 32:01wrenches that would work on bikes do all the
- 32:03same kinds of fixes on them that they would
- 32:07need to for a bike and some of these chairs
- 32:12you know if you watch videos of them some
- 32:15are you know propelled by using the wheels by
- 32:19pushing the wheels others have hand controlled
- 32:22levers and the hand controlled levers often allow
- 32:26for a little bit more off-roading ability because
- 32:29you can have just the one wheel in the front
- 32:31and it'll more easily kind of bounce up and
- 32:36down through on rough roads, which, you know,
- 32:41in, you know, rural areas in less developed countries
- 32:47is very important. And then there's also, moving
- 32:54on, geared mechanical wheels that you can get.
- 33:02like a reduction gear into the wheel design so
- 33:05think kind of like a mountain bike or or even
- 33:08like a street bike where you have like multiple
- 33:12different gears to be able to more easily get
- 33:15up and down hills and most of these wheelchairs'
- 33:21wheel designs have a two speed ratios a one
- 33:25to one which is no assistance and two to one
- 33:27which is a 100% increased assistance
- 33:31to go uphill the low gear does incorporate
- 33:37a hill hold function that's automatic to hold
- 33:40the wheelchair in place between pushes so
- 33:44like if you're in the middle of like a push and
- 33:46you get like for whatever reason there's a delay
- 33:50you're not going to go rolling back down the
- 33:52hill that you've already gotten back you know
- 33:54it's not going to be you know some uh Sisyphean
- 33:59task. For those of you who don't know that reference,
- 34:08check out Sisyphus in Greek mythology. Just Google
- 34:12it and get to the Wikipedia page. It also provides
- 34:17downhill control on descent. And if you do need
- 34:22to push backwards while going uphill, it does
- 34:25allow you to override it. If you are using one
- 34:30of these types of wheels. And yeah, so that's
- 34:37like kind of a really quick, basic kind of dirty
- 34:41sort of overview of the different types of wheelchairs
- 34:45that are available. You know, I will say that
- 34:49unfortunately, a lot of these types of wheelchairs,
- 34:51especially the more technologically advanced
- 34:56with more bells and whistles type wheelchairs
- 34:58are not covered by insurance here, at least in
- 35:01the US where we are located. But, you know, the
- 35:07fact that these chairs exist is, I think, important
- 35:09to recognize because it shows that there is potentially
- 35:15hope for them to be more easily available and
- 35:19practicable for more everyday users of wheelchairs.
- 35:26So, and, you know, I think it's important as
- 35:31well, like I said, to kind of think about all
- 35:33the different people who design these, you know,
- 35:35even some of the non-disabled individuals, because
- 35:39it shows that there are a lot of people who are
- 35:41trying to work on making the world more accessible,
- 35:45even if it isn't directly affecting them right
- 35:47now in this moment. Ray. Do you have any other
- 35:53thoughts, additional thoughts on this topic of
- 35:56wheelchairs that exist and the people who designed
- 36:00them? No, no, no. That was pretty informative.
- 36:05And if there's a deep dive for any one particular
- 36:07subject that was mentioned, I mean, hey, we can
- 36:10hear, you know, request a response from the different
- 36:13listeners, you know, and maybe do a deeper dive
- 36:16on one particular thing. But no, I can't think
- 36:20of anything else. Feels like you covered a lot,
- 36:23you know? Yeah, and unfortunately, anyone who
- 36:26wants to hear more about Sisyphus, you're going
- 36:28to have to do your own research on that. I don't
- 36:31think it's going to quite fit into the podcast
- 36:32theme. Yeah, no, it's not exactly, yeah, no.
- 36:36I mean, you can make the argument that he is
- 36:38disabled in one form or another, but I don't
- 36:41think it's going to, it's going to be a real
- 36:42stretch. You're going to be splitting hairs at
- 36:44that point. Exactly. Well, thanks for coming
- 36:47on, Ray. I really appreciate it. And I appreciate
- 36:51being here. Yeah. So, folks, that was our second
- 36:56episode of Season 2, Wheelchair Part 2, all about
- 37:01the development and types of wheelchairs that
- 37:04are available for people to use. If you have
- 37:09any thoughts, comments, or any sort of other
- 37:15topics that you might want to see covered, please
- 37:18let us know. And come right back here to listen
- 37:23all about more disability culture and, you know,
- 37:28the history of other types of assistive technology
- 37:31being developed. All righty. Bye. All righty,
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