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After Hours - Lake Mungo, Behind the Green Door, Sliver, and More Physical Media Talk! · Beyond The Blood: A Horror Movie Commentary Podcast

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  Speaker 5: I should say, of this conversation. We recorded an episode
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  Speaker 5: So Jordan from the movie Dan, welcome back to Beyond
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  Speaker 3: Dude, how are you hey, I'm good, guys. How are
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  Speaker 3: you guys doing? Thank you, thank you for asking me
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  Speaker 3: to come back on. Lots of fun and already just
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  Speaker 3: shoot the shit. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, So this is our physical media centered episode. It's
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  Speaker 5: our first after Hours of season three, first of twenty
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  Speaker 5: twenty six. Please excuse if my voice sounds a little weird.
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  Speaker 5: I'm kind of dealing with some congestion thing happening, but
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  Speaker 5: I want to get right in and talk about some
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  Speaker 5: physical media releases that we've been watching that are new.
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  Speaker 5: A whole bunch of these, I think, actually all of
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  Speaker 5: these except for one I got from the Movie Room,
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  Speaker 5: who sponsors this episode. I know, Jordan, you work very
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  Speaker 5: closely with the Movie Room, Steve. You and I work
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  Speaker 5: very closely with the Movie Room for the podcast, So
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  Speaker 5: thank you again, as always to them. I know Jordan,
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  Speaker 5: you and I share this first pick. So why don't
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  Speaker 5: you go ahead and introduce what we're gonna talk about first?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, it's this little I don't know it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't It's not a found footage movie. It's got found
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  Speaker 3: footage more of a mockumentary, I would say an Australian
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  Speaker 3: staple film from Umbrella Lake Mungongoes. All right, first pick,
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  Speaker 3: and Chris you said it was your your pick as well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I chose this because one like I had seen it
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  Speaker 3: before I had the second Site release, and I think
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  Speaker 3: this is a well worthy upgrade. I think this is
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  Speaker 3: the release to get. Even if you don't get the
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  Speaker 3: big chunky box set, right, you can get the slipcover
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  Speaker 3: one has all that I have, Yeah, has everything you
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  Speaker 3: need in that. But I think the big selling point
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  Speaker 3: for this is obviously the three hour documentary. Which It's
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  Speaker 3: funny because when I when I was doing my review
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  Speaker 3: that I had mentioned that this this feels like Umbrella's
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  Speaker 3: Umbrellas the Blair Witch Project from Second Sight. It's very
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  Speaker 3: similar the way it's released, with the content and with
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  Speaker 3: that documentary they added to it, and it's it's a
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  Speaker 3: great film and it looks, it looks beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: Let me ask you, guys, like, where does this fall
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  Speaker 4: for you compared to like other found footage films.
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  Speaker 5: Well, my wife and I had this conversation because she
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  Speaker 5: was kind of watching it alongside me and we were
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  Speaker 5: kind of talking about found footage versus mockumentary, and according
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  Speaker 5: to the Internet, found footag documentary falls under. So technically,
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  Speaker 5: I think according to obviously the Internet, which is the
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  Speaker 5: most reliable source.
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  Speaker 3: Don't believe everything you read on the Internet.
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  Speaker 5: There, Chris, it's considered a found footage film. It's also
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  Speaker 5: like number one through four on various high notoriety best
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  Speaker 5: found footage films of all time, because I think mockumentary
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  Speaker 5: falls under that. But I struggle with found footage, and
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  Speaker 5: I've said that before on this show. I think the
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  Speaker 5: blair Witch is sort of like my every found footage
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  Speaker 5: is compared to in some way to the blair Witch,
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  Speaker 5: which is kind of unfair because the blair Witch was
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  Speaker 5: so revolutionary. But it depends on do you consider Cannibal
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  Speaker 5: Holocaust a traditional found footage film even though half of
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  Speaker 5: its narrative is not found footage, you know what I mean. So,
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  Speaker 5: but that's also widely known on the Internet as one
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  Speaker 5: of the first.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, concerted footage films.
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  Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's a found footage movie.
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  Speaker 5: So that'll be my cost that would be my number
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  Speaker 5: one in like, if you had like non traditional found
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  Speaker 5: footage and then traditional found footage, it would be blair Witch. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: it was interesting because Jordan, you've seen Lake Mungo before,
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  Speaker 5: you had the Second Sight blu Ray, before you upgraded
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  Speaker 5: to this. I have never seen Lake Mungo. So I
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  Speaker 5: bought this umbrella. I bought just the standard edition from
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  Speaker 5: the movie Room, and I texted you pretty much right
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  Speaker 5: away because of how stunning this movie looked in four K. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: which blew my freaking mind, dude, because I'm the first
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  Speaker 5: person to be like, why do we need found footage
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  Speaker 5: in four K? When Second Site put out Blair Witch
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  Speaker 5: and the Internet was like, why not four K? I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: it doesn't you don't need it. I was not. I
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  Speaker 5: was not convinced you needed it. The improvement on the movie,
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  Speaker 5: just going from watching the bonus features which contained the
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  Speaker 5: original footage, is insane, dude. And this movie does this
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  Speaker 5: great thing where there's these wonderful moments of just landscape
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  Speaker 5: shots or just like shots around the town, shots of
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  Speaker 5: the house. Those look incredible. The shots during the interviews
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  Speaker 5: are really punchy. In contrasty, it looks incredible.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 5: This really kind of blew my mind.
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  Speaker 3: All the the And that's what I had said, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the reason this got a four K was for those
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  Speaker 3: interviews and the Burel shots, Yeah, because they were out
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  Speaker 3: of control. They were beautiful. The landscape, you could see
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  Speaker 3: the mountains. I think in the document they talked about
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  Speaker 3: the it's kind of close to Picnic or Hanging Rock,
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  Speaker 3: so you say the mountain ranges. The shots of the
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  Speaker 3: real location of Lake Mungo at night just stunning.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty incredible. And I mean I'm happy I didn't
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  Speaker 5: have to upgrade because I think if I had watched
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  Speaker 5: this on Blu Ray, I would have been like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: it's not a movie I need to own on four K,
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  Speaker 5: you know, because the movie was great. Yeah, it's not.
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  Speaker 5: I think what's tough about found footage and Lake Mungo
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  Speaker 5: in a category is that the real power of it
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  Speaker 5: is in the first watch. I think I have a
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  Speaker 5: hard time going back to them, Like blair Witch is
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  Speaker 5: like a maybe every four to five years for me,
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  Speaker 5: I put on blair Witch, and even when I put
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  Speaker 5: on blair Witch, it's a little bit more nostalgia. It's
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  Speaker 5: me kind of reliving eight year old May in nineteen
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  Speaker 5: ninety nine watching this videotape. But I'm happy I ended
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  Speaker 5: up getting this just because of the wealth of bonus features,
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  Speaker 5: and I do want to go back and watch the
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  Speaker 5: or listen to an audio commentary with Chris Stuckman. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: especially now that we're in a post Shelby Oaks world
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  Speaker 5: where his movie has now come out.
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  Speaker 3: Well, so have you seen Shelby Oaks? Did you see that?
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  Speaker 5: I have not. I've heard such mixed things. It's probably
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  Speaker 5: gonna be a vo d thing for me.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm not. I don't want to. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 3: spoil anything by saying this. Uh, Stephen, you've seen it,
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  Speaker 3: Shelby Oaks. Okay, they're the first act opening, you know,
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  Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it is, how is there's
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  Speaker 3: so much inspiration Lake Mungo. And you'll, especially especially now
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  Speaker 3: that you've seen it, Chris Stephen, I'm sure you've seen
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  Speaker 3: it that it's just the way it shot. The pacing
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  Speaker 3: is just like Lake Mungo. And he you could tell
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  Speaker 3: he was very heavily inspired by this movie for that
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  Speaker 3: opening section of the movie.
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  Speaker 5: Well, this release incredibly impressed with with with what was here,
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  Speaker 5: like as far as the bonus features, because you Jordan
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  Speaker 5: telling me about the documentary was what made me buy this. Anyway,
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  Speaker 5: that was the my push over the cliff of needing
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  Speaker 5: to get it. But I do want to talk about specifically,
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  Speaker 5: a briefly, a visual essay that's on this release called
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  Speaker 5: Dead Girl Rise Alexandra Heller Nicholas on the ancestors and
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  Speaker 5: legacy of Alice Palmer. Alexandra Heller Nicholas is incredible. Her
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  Speaker 5: insights and viewpoints and analytics are insane. This is one
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  Speaker 5: of the best possible visual essays to accompany this movie.
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  Speaker 5: I had no idea the connections to Twin Peaks. It's like,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not a big Tween Peaks fan. But then right
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  Speaker 5: when she said it, I was like, oh, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 5: Alice Palmer obviously, So that was incredible. And then I
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  Speaker 5: know that you and I have been pretty critical on
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  Speaker 5: the four part documentary that's on this We were talking
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  Speaker 5: a couple of days ago about that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: One thing I'm noticing on the case for this four
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  Speaker 5: case that it says Lake Mungle revisited an extensive four
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  Speaker 5: part experience. So what I wonder is, do you think
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  Speaker 5: they were trying to go for like a like a
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, documentary, like beyond a documentary, or do
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  Speaker 5: you think this just got a little out of hand,
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  Speaker 5: and they were like, this goes further than than we
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  Speaker 5: were possibly expecting. We should just call it an experience.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I I could see where you're going with that for sure.
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  Speaker 3: It because it doesn't feel there. I mean, it's obviously
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  Speaker 3: a documentary. It feels like a documentary, but it it
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  Speaker 3: dives into it. It feels like it covers a lot
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  Speaker 3: of ground, even outside of Lake Mungo, but they tie
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  Speaker 3: it all back to Lake Mungo. Yeah, it was an experience.
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  Speaker 3: I can tell you that it was. It was long, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it And you know what's funny is the the the
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  Speaker 3: only thing I can can compare this to is the
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  Speaker 3: blair Witch Project documentary. And I felt with the blair
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  Speaker 3: Witch it did not feel as even though it is long,
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  Speaker 3: if not maybe a little longer, I didn't feel like
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  Speaker 3: it was that long it For this documentary, I felt.
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  Speaker 5: The length for me, I think blair Witch has the
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  Speaker 5: legacy and the depth, as well as the cooperation with
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  Speaker 5: much more of the crew and the directors and the
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  Speaker 5: writers and all, and it felt more complete than this.
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  Speaker 5: And I don't want people to think like we're bashing this,
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  Speaker 5: because this is an incredibly ambitious documentary from Umbrella, and
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  Speaker 5: it's worth the long watch. There are just times where
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  Speaker 5: it does feel I think the word I used with
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  Speaker 5: you was fluffed. It feels a little padded out to
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  Speaker 5: and it just makes you wonder, Okay, if we were
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  Speaker 5: to cut this down to we were to take thirty
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  Speaker 5: forty five minutes out of this, could this have been
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  Speaker 5: a tighter, more cohesive, incredibly informational, you know, documentary instead
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  Speaker 5: of what kind of turns into like a paranormal research
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  Speaker 5: like it just you know, well, I feel like it
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  Speaker 5: could have been.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it could have And I told you
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  Speaker 3: this too. This I I come to realize with this
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  Speaker 3: movie from the documentary is this is very in the
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  Speaker 3: cultural zeitgeist of Australia and Australians in general, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: us being from the US, right, we don't have that
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  Speaker 3: kind of attachment to the way Australians are the way
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  Speaker 3: because they even talk about that, the way that characters
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  Speaker 3: are are very Australian and like, to me, that doesn't
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  Speaker 3: mean anything to me, m you know, so I think
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  Speaker 3: that's part of the reason why maybe I didn't connect
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  Speaker 3: with it, And that kind of goes back to what
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  Speaker 3: you said about legacy. I just don't connect with it
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  Speaker 3: as much as I did with the blair Witch Project.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, blair Witch we have a long, extensive history
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  Speaker 5: with and we were all very ingrained in the impact
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  Speaker 5: that that movie had and seeing the marketing versus hand
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  Speaker 5: like we all did experiencing it from you know, having
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  Speaker 5: the VHS and watching it, I feel like we're it
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  Speaker 5: holds a much more prominent piece of our past when
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: it comes to horror. So therefore, maybe we perceived that
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  Speaker 5: documentary a little bit different due to that history than
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  Speaker 5: you know. And I hope people love this documentary and
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  Speaker 5: for the most part, I did love it, and I
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  Speaker 5: hope that people pick up this release and watch that
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  Speaker 5: because Lake Mungo is a massive deal, I mean, your
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  Speaker 5: own We're only what two years away from a movie
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  Speaker 5: celebrating its twentieth anniversary.
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  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 5: Wow. Yeah, So you know, I hope people pick it
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  Speaker 5: up and people enjoy it. And you know, this is
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  Speaker 5: not at all I think us saying hey, don't watch it,
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  Speaker 5: it's not good, Not at all.
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  Speaker 3: Chris, Was it as scary to you as because because
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  Speaker 3: I hear from people saying this is like the scariest
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: move I've ever seen. Mike flanagain in the documentary talked
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: about how he was watching it and he stood up
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: and had to pace because it scared him so much.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: You know, did it? Did it hit you the same way?
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: Not not scary in the traditional sense. Anytime you have
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: a camera set up in a room and it's dark
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: and the footage is grainy and you possibly see somebody
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: walking through the frame. I think that that's unsettling.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: It's not as scary. It's not scary in the sense
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: of like hell hoalse no, totally different type of scary.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: But I'm also looking at this almost twenty years past release,
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: when the genre has changed so much, we've been exposed
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: to so much more so I can definitely see the
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: impact being greater in two thousand and eight than now.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: But I think the movie is scary in how it's
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: held up in that this feels like it it's like
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: a Netflix documentary now, like this could easily pass as
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: something that's actively on Netflix, and it looks and feels
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: that way. It's almost like this movie was slightly ahead
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: of its time in the structure of modern crime documentaries.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: I think that's what's most interesting and thinking of the
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: movie as real is scary not necessarily what it's showing us.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: I think that for me is what is scary about
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: it is. See for me, I wasn't scary in the
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: It wasn't like a jump scare or I gotta you know,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: hide under the sheets type of scary. It was a
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: very ominous, like almost atmosphere changing type of film and documentary.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: I'll call it a documentary, found footage whatever, but it
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: felt like that, and it was one of those that
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: that feeling lingered even after the movie. It just kind
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: of stayed in my head that you know, I know this,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: none of this has really happened, but it's so done
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: so well. The writing and the and then and the
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: way that they uh worked with each of the actors
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: for this was done so well, and that it's rooted
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: in true real stuff that I to me, it stayed
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: with me well after the movie, kind of just at
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: a at a heightened sense of my sirs walking around
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: even though I know it wasn't real, but it still happened.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: That's what I think this movie did so well.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: It has the impact of like a negative news story
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: that you catch somewhere.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I don't they have twenty twenty or
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: something like that.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, the news isn't on in my house, but
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: if I walk in, if I'm somewhere and the news
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: is on and they're talking about a tragedy that you know,
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: you kind of hear it and you're like, oh man,
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: that just kind of sits with you, and it doesn't.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: It kind of feels like it travels with you a
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: little bit. That's more so how I felt about it
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: pre spoiler alert. The scariest part for me is when
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: she comes across the dead version of herself.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: That to me were talking about at Lake Mungo.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, when she's at Lake Mungo and a figure comes
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: essentially out of the water and it's her, She's seeing
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: herself dead. That was an incredibly creepy image. So yeah, Yeah,
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: I think I think the movie was good. I'm very
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: happy to have it. I think it's I think I
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: have it more. I'm happy to have it more as
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: a curation piece, like a very essential, I think important
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: piece of found footage history. It's not what I'm going
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: to go back to too often, and I'm happy to
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: have it with as comprehensive a documentary or experience as
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: umbrella as it has, you know, happy to have it
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: with that companion piece. I think I want more documentaries
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: that are I want to say, I want more documentaries
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: that are this extensive, but there always needs to be
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: a balance, and I think when it comes to lengthy documentaries,
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: it really comes down to, like, not everybody can do
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: what In Search of Darkness does, where it's six hours
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: and forty five minutes and all every minute is fun,
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: you know, like they just have it that figured out out.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: So I want to see more of this, but I
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: definitely want to see a.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Little bit more.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: Work going into like is this important, does this matter?
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: Is this information impactful?
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Steve, I feel I feel like I haven't talked
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: to you in like five minutes. We've just been chatting.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: No, I'm just I'm just taking it all in because
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: you guys are definitely selling me on picking this box
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: set up.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Pick it up.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I know the standard. The standard. I'm
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: not going to say, go out and get the limited edition, Jordan.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: You probably would because you have the limited edition, but
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: the slipcover one is wonderful. It's got a nice stick
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: slip cover, it's got everything that I felt like I
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: needed that.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Well, that's what I was saying, you know, I mean,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna knock anyone who doesn't get the limited edition.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, if you're like booklets, it's got a
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: hard back book. I actually just got three books actually
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: in it. But if all you want is like the documentary,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: which obviously I think is the main selling point, slipcovers
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: just fine.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, it was a great price. I think it
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: was like thirty bucks, like right around thirty bucks. It
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: was a great price.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: I feel like it's cool to see at least, like
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: you know, the more notable found footage films. You know,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: we've already gotten Blair Witch Project, ghost Watch at one point,
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: we've got you know, this film hell House through Umbrella.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: I mean they had that you know, nice collector set.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Just to be able to see that, like this film
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: is getting like the premium treatment. I think it's just
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: it's so cool, especially now all these years later, just
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: to see it's being you know, truly recognized and in.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: The documentary, seeing figures such as David Desmuci and Mike
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: Flanagan talking about how impactful this movie was to them
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: was actually shocking to me. I wasn't expecting that level
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: of guest appearance. Yeah, and the documentary pretty much starts
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: with Mike Flanagan, and it's awesome. It's such a great
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: kickoff to it, just hearing this modern master of horror
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: speak on the effect this movie had on him.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Well, they they they start off the documentary with like,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: I feel like a four horsemen. I mean they got
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: David Desmalcin, Mike flanagain, Neil Marshall, and I forget the
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: director they had from The blair Witch was in it.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I think his name is EDWARDO. Sanchez.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's just like one after another they showed up.
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and having him on from the blair Witch I mean,
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: I truly believe most of these movies don't really exist
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: without blair Witch Project. Yes, EDWARDO. Sanchez is his name.
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: So to have him show up, I mean he and
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: the film that his crew made with Blair Witch was
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: probably the you know, created the the genre for They
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: they walked so Lake Mungo could run, you know. So
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: I think it was very impactful to have him as well.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: And so Steve, let's talk about what you got man,
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: you got anything good for us today?
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Dude, I feel like I'm trying to mix it up
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: a little bit. You know, Lake Mungo definitely different in tone.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: I just figured for this after Hours segment I would
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: start none other than with Sean Baker's Florida project. So
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: I was very happy to finally pick this up. Had
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: a chance to watch Anora not all that long ago.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: Love that film, and so I'm kind of backtracking getting
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: into Sean Baker a little bit more. And I wasn't
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: entirely sure if I needed, you know, the box set
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: to really experience this film. But I'm so thankful that
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: I did pick it up, because even if you haven't
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: seen the film, this definitely justifies it. Second Site did
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: a phenomenal job with this. And have either you guys
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: seen this film or what are your thoughts on it? Yeah?
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: I picked up the Second Site release. That was a
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: big deal that release. I was blown away. I had
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: never seen it, and personally I thought this was better
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: than Anora. I loved I fell in love with the
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: characters more mm hmm. I think Willem Dafoe was brilliant
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: in this movie, and I like the angle that the
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: movie took.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: For sure, I don't think that this was a film
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: that I was really quite sure what to expect. I mean,
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: you know, I know we had previously talked about this
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: with you know, we're basically seeing the viewpoint from six
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: year old girl Mooney, and we're following her and her
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: her mother, Hayley, So they're basically living week to week
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: in a budget motel near Disney World. So you're seeing
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: that there's this childlike wonder that's involved with everything that
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: we're seeing, while also contrasting with a lot of like
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: I would say, instability, you know, in that environment, Pow
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: already kind of some questionable behavior that's going on over
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: the course of the movie. And I thought it was
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: just so interesting because it feels almost like very documentary
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: style in a lot of ways, like this is almost
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: like a character study of you know, Haley the mom,
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Mooney the daughter, and those that are around them. And
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: you even mentioned Willem Dafoe as the motel manager. I
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: think that that was a really nice change of pace
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: for his performance. You know, we're so used to getting
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: him betray these just off the wall characters and you
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: get something that's a little bit more toned down, but
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: the heart's still there. Yeah, it was I don't know, man,
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: it was it was.
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: Just just left to like a really really like you
• 30:48
  Speaker 8: guys know how it is you find a movie it
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: hadn't seen before, it leaves his lasting impact on you
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: in some way, shape or form.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Sean Baker is really good at just it feels,
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: I don't want to say, like a documentary, but it
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: feels like we're following real people and the camera is
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: just there. There's nothing about this movie that feels cinematic. No,
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: it's not, it's just it's it's just got this incredible
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: sense of realism, and the characters are so quirky, and
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: the setting is so interesting. The hotel is that crazy
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: hot pink color, and Florida is portrayed just as such
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: a you know, a hot spot for these weird, offbeat
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: characters that don't feel written. You know, these are people
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: that you would see at your local motel.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: It feels like.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: And I think that's where the magic is and you know, people.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: As much as I love the drama that comes with movies,
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: I almost feel like I become personally attached more to
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: movies that don't accent that drama, and the drama is
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: treated real and human as opposed to dramatize. Like I
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: just watched The Smashing Machine a couple of weeks ago,
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: and I was telling Jordan that this is like the
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: most anti triumphant sports movie I've ever seen, because my
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: real life does not come with triumph There's never the
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: rocky moment in the ring where it's a big deal
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: you defeated the villain and it's like ah, you know.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: And The Smashing Machine understood that and toned that all
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: down to a very human level. And I felt that
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: on that level, and that's kind of what I get
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: from Sean Baker's work. It doesn't have to be pushed
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: off like a movie and shown like a movie. I
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: just need to see real, seemingly real people going through
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: seemingly real, real life problems.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I don't know about you, guys. I mean
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: a lot of the performances and just the side characters,
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: it all felt very authentic, very believable. I mean there's
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: almost like a euphoric look to the settings, you know,
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: like for the various areas where this takes place outside
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: of the motel, cinematography was stunning and I just thought,
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: as a whole, it's it's between this and Anora. It
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: definitely had me very eager to dive into some more
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: of his films like Tangerine and Red Rocket, and there
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: were a lot of traces I felt like Sean Baker's directing,
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: you know, through these two movies reminds me a lot
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: of like John Cassavetti's or like Harmony Carinn in the
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: way that they have these very human yet flawed performances
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: that you're getting out of these these actors and actresses,
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: which I just just felt like it was very captivating.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I do want to real quick draw. I
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: do just want to call back to the episode that
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: we did record Ryan that we have to you know,
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: that we can't release because of Ryan's audio file. But
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: Ryan did go out of his way to tell us
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: to seek out Red Rocket, which is the movie Sean
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: Baker did, I think before a Noura, Yes, I think
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: it was before Yeah, I think it was right before Anora.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: I've never seen that one, so yeah, he spoke very
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: very highly of that, and then also of take out
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: some of his earlier films that have recently kind of
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: gotten a criterion treatment. He spoke of too, So I
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: want to make sure we got that out there again. Yeah.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: One thing that I do like about the Florida Project,
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: and we kind of touched about it about visually and
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: the way that the colors and the background is almost
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: a character and of itself with this movie, which which
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: I love, like you said, the cinematography, and he does
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: such a good choice at using the background, the canvas
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: of Florida as a character, by the colors, because we
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: are seeing it through what's her name, Moonie's eyes, This
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: is her child, like one of us. Everything has more color,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: more pop, you know, it's not as dull as we
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: would see the world today. Right, And I'm not spoiling
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: the ending, but the ending, you gotta give that was
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: an Oscar worthy performance from that actress. And the kind
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: of escapism they do a little touch at the end
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: of the movie I think is perfect.
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely think there's This is the power of
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: shooting in real settings, shooting in real locations. This is
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: what's missing from green screen or any any any false background.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: You know, just you don't get these colors. You don't
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: get this. I mean, I don't know about you, guys,
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: but I'm thirty four and I still feel like I
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: see my life through as to when I was a kid,
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: you know, And I always find myself like staring up
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: at the clouds and staring at sunsets and looking at
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: interesting colors and like really paying attention to those things.
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: It's something that I try to do more as I've
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: gotten older, and movies like this I feel like I
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: still connect to very heavily because deep down, like I
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: still feel like I see the world that way, and
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: I think your interpretation of it could be different depending
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: on your viewpoint.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: You know. Yeah, I just real quickly, I just wanted
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: to highlight I mean, obviously with this box that second
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: site definitely went all out. I mean you're getting obviously
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: like the rigid slup case box set with the get
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: new art from Michael dunbabbin one hundred and sixty page
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: book with new essays, and then you get some photo
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: art cards with it as well. Just a few things
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: to kind of touch on with this release. I mean,
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: it's got new audio commentaries in here, a number of
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: different interviews with the actors and actresses, so you're definitely
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: gettingr I feel like like you definitely get your money's
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: worth with this release, and I would genuinely be interested
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: to see. You know, we talked about Red Rocket earlier.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: I don't know if that has a physical release.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: It does, I know it has a blue Oh okay,
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: I think four released it.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, who knows, maybe in the near future, like
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: I would love to see second site, maybe do it.
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: Of course, you know, yeah, of course, Well to switch
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: gears again because we're going to go in a complete
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: opposite direction than the project. My second pick I wanted
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: to talk about is actually everyleased from Aero video and
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: this is Evil Dead Rise out on four and this,
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: just in case people aren't as ingrained deeply as we are,
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: Evil Dead Rise. Warner Brothers initially gave it a Blu
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: ray of four K release, but there were no bonus
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: features on the US release. There wasn't overseas four K,
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: where there was a commentary track as well as some featurettes.
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: And since then we've been kind of living with this
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: movie just how it is, and I thought that was
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: incredibly shameful. So when Arrow came out and announced this,
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: it instantly became a buy for me, strictly on a
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: bonus feature standpoint. The movie's only just about to be
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: three years old at this point. It came out in
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: twenty twenty three, and there's nothing new you're gonna do
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: to it. As far as the restoration, it was shot
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: digitally as far as I know, you know, I don't
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: think there's a lot of restoration or resolution talk around this,
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: But the fact that we finally have a loaded release
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: full of bonus features is what's most important to me. Also,
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: I do just want to mention that I liked Evil
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: Dead Rise when we saw it in theaters. I especially
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: like the opening title card. I think that was the
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: coolest with the rising. Yeah, I thought it was very good.
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: I remember liking it. But I was recently kind of
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: reworking my letterbox rankings, like I was deleting a whole
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: bunch of old ones that I had, and I actually
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: put Evil Dead Rise in my last place in my
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: Evil Dead ranking back when I saw it in twenty
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: twenty three, and I don't think it deserves that. I
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: actually liked it much better on this viewing.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Where would you put it now?
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: I was about to ask.
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: Oh, it depends on what what part like? What side
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: of Evil Dead you like? You know, I love Army
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: of Darkness, but that's not my favorite form of Evil
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: Dead And twenty thirteen. Evil Dead is actually my favorite
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: Evil Dead film, so I would probably put it. God,
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: it's so hard. How do you rank this stuff without
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: pissing people off?
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Hey, you're gonna piss people off regardless.
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: Okay, I feel like I'm gonna go Evil Dead twenty thirteen,
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: Evil Dead to Evil Dead, Rise the Evil Dead in
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: an Army of Darkness and all of those, Every single
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: one of these is like a four star plus.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: Can you guys say that this franchise is probably one
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: of the most consistent horror franchises.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Consistent inquality games like it's I mean, it's got the
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: consistent you know, through line theme of the book and
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: you know, the whole economic on thing and the nastiness
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: speak of these what are the dead Heites?
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: But yeah, it I like the idea though, of the
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: There's many different necronomicons. You know, there's not just one,
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: and that gives you the ability because it was never
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: established that there was one. I don't care how far
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: you go back into the lore. At no point in
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: the original films was anything mentioned that there was one.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: So what they're doing now by expanding the franchise and
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: letting new directors, we have Lee Cronan who did Evil
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: Dead Rise.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: You have.
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: I forget his name, who's directed the Evil Dead Burn
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: that comes out this year. Francis leu Lee No, not
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: Lee Cronan.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: I had it, I lost it.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: And then you have Francis glue Be, who's doing another
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: Evil Dead movie. I think it's a genius way to
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: get new creative you know, minds behind this franchise and
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: do new cool stuff with it. It's just by doing
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: separate stories that aren't attached. The only common theme is
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: that one of the many necronomicons were found.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: I think it's what it What did you think of
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: the different setting now it's taking place in a high rise.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: I never had a very very demons too.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: Maybe yeah, more I do like that aspect about it.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it definitely feels like somebody somebody loved demons too,
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: and I'm all here for that. Uh. I think the
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: first time I saw it, I just didn't I don't know,
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: Maybe I was just so you know, the first time
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: you see a movie is so dependent on what expectations
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: you have, and I just remember walking out of it
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: the first time thinking like, oh, the cheese grater scene
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: wasn't as bad as they made it out the bay,
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: So I feel like I sort of had weird expectations
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: going in on this watch. I was like, man, this
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: movie's intense, like it once it starts. And I love
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: the idea of there's this apartment building was built on
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: an old bank and an earthquake breaks the floor open
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: and that's how the economicon is discovered. I also love
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: the idea of them being of the enchantment being on
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: the records, the vinyl, and how once it starts, they
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: can't stop. So it's like the moment it starts, there's
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: no stopping this. And the terror of these kids seeing
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: their mom go through this this transformation and then eventually
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: to kind of leading to killing them, you know. And
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: a lot of it is through the eyes of the
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: youngest daughter, who is from Stranger Things season five. She
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: is the sister Mike's sister from Stranger Things season five.
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: So it was just cool to see. And I do
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: think there's some stuff I don't love. I don't like
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: the hallway scene when it's all through the peephole.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: I was just about to bring that up.
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: I thought that was a little silly. But this is
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: not a high This did not have the biggest budget
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: in the world, so they had to make do with
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: what they could, you know, get all this through with.
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: But I think the movie was incredibly intense. It's really creepy,
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: really eerie, really kind of just like I don't know
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: if it's like just like sticky and stinky. Like the
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: the degrading of the characters as they become dead eightes
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: and just the degrading of the apartment is so eerie
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: and gross to me. And I spoiler alert, I fucking
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: love this ending of them mutating into just one giant
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: glob glob monster with the wood chipper and oh my god.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just saying though, and I've never heard anybody
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: say this, but that scene in the garage, Yeah, I
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: felt straight Resident Evil too. I don't know if you
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: guys did. Oh yeah, but really, I don't know why. Yeah,
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: it looked like the garage and Resident Evil too the remake,
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: mainly the remake, but I saw that immediately thought of that.
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: The only thing I remember about Resident Evil Too is
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: Mila Javiovich doing a backflip off of a motorcycle coming
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: through a stained glass window in a church. Is that
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: a weird memory from Residuevil.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: That's very specific too.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: We were talking about I'm talking about the game were
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: talking about.
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: I instantly went to Resident Evil Apocalypse.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: No, sorry, I'm talking about the game.
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: The game sequel to two thousand and three is Resident Evil,
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: directed by Paul W.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: S Anderson.
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: That one, yeah, just this release was you know or
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: like she like jumps the motorcycle through the stained glass
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: window and then jumps off of it and it hits.
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that's something like that. My wife
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: will be able to tell you. So this comes with
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: the audio commentary that was available on the overseas four
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: K release. There's also a bunch of Zoom interviews on here.
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: You have a brand new interview with actor Lily Sullivan,
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: brand new interview with actor Lissa Sutherland. There's a brand
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: new interview with Gabriel I think echoles is how you
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: say her last name. Also a brand new interview with
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: Anna Marie Thomas. This is where I started really getting
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: into it. There's a brand new interview with the special
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: makeup effects designer Louke Polti. That was super cool to
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: listen to. Brand new interview with editor Brian Shaw Sonic
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: Possessions a brand new interview with sound designer, brand new
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: interview with the composer Steven McKeon which the score to
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: this movie is much less thematic than the scores for
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: the rest of the franchise, but I still think it's
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: incredibly eerie. We also have let's see there is a
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: something called the Sound of Evil, Dead Rise, a twenty
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: twenty three interview at Cronin and the sound editor by
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: Glenn Kaiser, director of the Dolby Institute. That was a
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: lot of fun. There's a featurette. There's a short film
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: by Lee Cronin. You also have a booklet in here
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: as well, which features new writing on the film by
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: Michael Gingold. So a release very packed with bonus features
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: that have been long deserved for this movie. So I'm
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: happy it finally got this treatment from Aero Video. Plus,
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: this cover art is sick. This slip cover art is
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: a good job of that, so so cool. I'm very
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: stoked to have this. Jordan. We don't have a collaboration
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: for your second pick, but let's let's talk about it anyway.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with this right here. Now. This release
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: came out a little bit ago, but it's still fairly
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: fairly recent, I think is that that is a film
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: from Avati himself. It is an errow video of household
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: laughing windows. Do you have a protector on that that
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: looks thick as hell? Yeah, dude. I so the company
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: that I use, Malco, they just released new protectors for
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: slipcovered chunky box. I'll try him out.
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: So I was like, I was like, mine doesn't look
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: that thick. What's wrong with mine?
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, and all the all the reflections it does,
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: it's very reflective. But anyways, with this, basically a painter, restore, painter,
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: restore whatever you want to call him, gets hired in
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: to go to this church to restore this painting on
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: a wall that had some hooligans got onto and finds
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: out that there's some more sinister stuff going on in
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: the town. And man, right, one thing about this movie
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: is it is a very very dark topic movie. The
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: whole opening shot with the and I love the use
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: of the recording. Just the nonsensical speech that is that
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: is being said in the recording I love. And also
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: I really like the whole the atmosphere that this movie
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: builds with the town and the people living in it.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: I think it's great. One of the twists that I
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: did not see coming whatsoever. But but I really spoiler
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: definitely does. I mean, I don't know if you want
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: to go into it that depth. But now I don't
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: have to do a spoiler, but I'll just say there's
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: someone in there you don't expect, at least I didn't.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: And but I love that.
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: One.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: This one I had never seen before. Actually got this
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: basically for your guys recommendations, that's right, we're good influences. Yeah,
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: and uh man, getting a nice chunky box like this
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: for this movie, I think is perfect. I mean, what
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: else can I start to say about this?
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: Can I just say that I think fans of Italian horror,
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, I do think that this is a very
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: fine Jello. But for fans of Jello and or Italian horror,
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: I don't think you're going to get a better collection
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: of bonus features than what you have here. This release
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: was a lot of the bonus features on here were
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: produced by Eugenio Ercolani. Yes, who is incredible. He does
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: so much work in the industry, especially in the genre,
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: and this release here, I'm just gonna start reading off
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: brand new audio commentary by Alexander Heller Nicholas, who we
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: were talking about for Lake Mungo. It just wealth of knowledge,
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: along with Josh Nelson. There's also another brand new audio
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: commentary with Troy Howarth who if you're watching a shallow
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: film on physical media, you want him evolved. But also
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: Eugenio Urklani is on that audio commentary as well. There's
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: also a brand new feature length documentary on here called
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: Painted Screams. There's a brand new visual essay by Kat Ellinger,
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: who's another fantastic person to get involved in this release.
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: It's pretty incredible the talent that went behind this, and
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: I think it's a testament to one arrows like respect
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: for making sure this movie gets the best possible treatment,
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: but also is a great representation of how this movie
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: is so important. Getting that lineup of people involved to
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: talk about it, it's a true testament to the movie.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: In the documentary they do a good job they talk
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: about and it's it's crazy the how low of a
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: budget this film had and what they were able to
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: accomplish with that. That's what blew me away, is they
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: were working with near no money and the product and
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: what the outcome of this. I think was just just incredible.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: And I heard someone had said one time that people
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: don't really like this because they come and go at
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: it at the angle of thinking of it's a traditional
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: Yallo which is not at all. No, I don't even
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: consider this as personally a jail movie. This is more
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: of an Italian horror film. There's there's some yalloi isms
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: about it, but at a as a whole, I don't
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: see it.
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: Like that, which I think is a conversation that's going
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: to go on forever. I think this movie's always going
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: to be kind of tested for what specific genre it
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: fits into.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: What I loved about this film is it feels like
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: it's a very stark contrast to most of the Giallow
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: films or Italian horror films that we typically get, where
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: this one's like more urban, a little bit further out there.
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: There's like certain sequences that are definitely a little bit
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: more isolated. And I love the fact that at the ending,
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: without going into it, that in a lot of ways
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: it kind of reminded me of how short nighted glass
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: Dials just is very unexpected. It's really I don't think
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: what exactly you see coming. And I would say this
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: film is no less like that ending is very far
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: out there, almost like fringed psychological thriller elements to it.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: But I can't tell you, guys how happy I am
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: that we finally have this in the collection because I've
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: been pounding the table waiting for this release and we
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: finally got it.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: This got announced. It seemed like we got the tease
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: for this for I don't know how many months.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: A long time ago.
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: It felt like may You're, yeah, this is kind of
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: like right up there. I feel like Steve with with
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: you waiting for a Black Belly the transula from Telly
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: Lloyd Dreams, which we finally got some word on.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: I know, I'm like, okay, so when is it coming out?
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: Please don't do this to me.
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: Great pick, Jordan, And I'm very happy that you took
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: the time to watch the movie and dive into it, man,
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: because I think I think you know, I think we
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: were we were we were kind of pressuring everybody into
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: getting it because a we wanted to sell well, but
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: be it being on physical media as a chance for
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: more people to discover it that might not have seeked
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: it out like people like us would have before.
• 54:48
  Speaker 7: HM.
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: So I'm super stoked that you got it man, It's
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: it's a beautiful release.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: Steve.
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: What else you got for us?
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: Anything good?
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: Well, he's over here talking about the house with that windows.
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: I'll one up you with none other than Luccio Folci's
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: Murder Rock, the release from eighty eight Films in all
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: of its glory. This is another one that I felt
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: like we had heard about for some time that was
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: eventually going to be getting a nice four K release,
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: and Vinegar Syndrome initially announced THEIRS first, and then there, yeah,
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: there we go for those of you listening, Jordan showing
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: off the Vinegar Syndrome release for Murder Rock, and then
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: I believe it was a few months later when eighty
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: eight Films finally released THEIRS. But this is one of
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: the I believe, one of the last films that Luccio
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: Folchi did in New York, and it actually follows a
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: series of brutal murders stalking in New York Dance Academy
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: where a mass killer turns rehearsal floors basically into crime scenes,
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: and you get a whole array of like very neon
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: lit sequences. You have like the synth score with it
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: there's definitely some Giallo inspired like who Done It? Mystery
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: to the film, and it goes in places you're not expecting.
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: This I think would probably be right around the point
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: where you start getting to the back end of Lucio
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: Fulci's career. And I still consider this maybe not top
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: tier Lucio Fulci, but it's I would say, it's like
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: middle of the road, maybe like a little bit more
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: than that. Definitely is still worth watching. And this, yeah,
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: go ahead.
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: So now I don't mean to cut you off. There's
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: just some interesting things that I'm reading about here. One
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: of those is that the producer Augusto Carmonido, if I'm
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: saying that correctly, actually requested that the movie have dance
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: scenes after the success of Flash Dance, and it was
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: initially written as a street jallo, So I'd be incredibly
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: curious to see what this would have been had Augusto
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: Carminito not gotten involved and asked them to change it.
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: But there's also an interview out there where Luciofolci stated
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: that this movie was the first part of a music
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: trilogy that would include two more giale one called Killer
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: Samba and Thrilling Blues, but due to his declining health.
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: Those movies were never made, so that that's really interesting.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: It makes you wonder what could have been, you know.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: And I have to say with this release, I don't
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: know as far as with the extras that came with
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: the Vinegar Syndrome release, but this one includes new art
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: from Sean Longmore, comes with an arc hard forty page
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: bound book with it that includes notes, handful of audio commentaries, interviews.
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you're a fan of Italian horror or giallow,
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: I highly recommend picking this up. The four K transfer
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: looks stunning and uh again, same with you know the
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: Household Laughing Windows. These are two releases. I was beyond
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: ecstatic to finally have my collection.
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: What do you like more? Flash Dance or Murder Rock?
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, Murder Rock?
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: Come on, man, I love Flash Dance. My wife showed
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: me that I love it.
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: The movie Your Rules, dude, Yeah, it's uh yeah, this
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: is a good one, that's for sure.
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: I still don't have that. I need to get it.
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: I feel ashamed as a full GI fan that I
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: don't have that.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: I'm actually surprised you didn't get it, because I know
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: you were talking about getting the Vinegar Centrome release.
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: There's just so much all the time that like whatever
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: you're you know, you're excited about, but not like overly
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: excited about, it always just ends up getting pushed back
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: and you end up putting something else. And then you're
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: in my situation now where it's like that it came
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: out so long ago, you kind of forget that. You
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: have to go back and get it, you know what
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: I mean. But I mean it was a it was
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: a great year for for Folcie fans.
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: And last year, I mean we just see Manhattan Baby, Yeah,
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: we'll be sitting good now.
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: We just got to get all the all the mid tier,
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: which is still better than yeah, you know, which is
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: still great, but all the stuff that maybe didn't hit
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: as well as some of his titan you know releases.
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we did get uh who is it?
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: Severn released The Devil's Honey. Not that that's like I
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: don't consider that, like you know, it's it's.
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: Maybe that's top tier. That's top tier.
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I put I put it probably like a little
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: bit higher. You know, his filmography, it's so The Devil's
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: Honey is just so unique. Yes, his.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: In his uh you know, his filmography. It's like almost
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: like The Psychic where it just feels it feels like
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: it's just written a little different. It's got a different
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: approach to it and it stands out, you know. But
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: that's why The Psychic is one of my favorites, because
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: it felt so there's like slashes of fault Gy in it.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Well that's that's the thing with fault Gy
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: is he almost could touch any genre and do a justice.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: I feel like every.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: Genre he I feel like it's so dependent on whoever
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: whoever was like writing, you know what I mean.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he was just and I think that's
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: part of the reason why he didn't get much recognition
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: early on. Yeah, was he didn't stick to one thing.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: He kind of did whatever that he wanted to do.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, before he was in the Horror, he
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: was doing comedy and westerns and you know what I mean,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: like it, just dabbling in all kinds of stuff, mostly comedy,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: not westerns, mostly comedy. But yeah, a great pick Murder Rock.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: I think that's still pretty available, right, I don't.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know if.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: That is like out of print or maybe what the
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: slip cover.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: Is talk about vinegar Syndromes or eighty eight's release either.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: I'm just seeing. So I'm in the movie room. There's
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: one copy of the Vinegar Syndrome release on there with
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: the slip I think it was a slip box, right,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: it was a side entry.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: It is, but I don't even I don't even see
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: it on here.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's on the movie room. And then okay, so
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: the limited edition is still available from eighty eight Films
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: through Diabolic and eighty eight Films directly and Orbit.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, Orbit as well.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so you can still get your hands on that
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: great pick man, dude, Chris.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: Get the get the one from the movie room, sell
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: them out, get the one left.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, be that guy should Well, I'll tell you. I'll
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: tell you about my next pick, which is a movie
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: that's a favorite of mine, and I am that guy
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: that this has become one of my favorite movies of
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: all time. At least for now. It's a brief obsession
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: that I'm sure eventually will taper out. But this is
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: nineteen eighty two's the last horror film, or as Severin
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: puts it, maniac too Love to Kill. I picked this
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: up way back when this initially came out from seven
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: because I did not want to miss out on this
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: slip box with this kind of maniac riff art here,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: and for those who have ever seen the Last Horror film,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: it tells the story of this New York taxi driver
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: who is a want to be director and is obsessed
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: with an actress. Janna Bates is her name, and he
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: attends the nineteen eighty one Can Film Festival and proceeds
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: to in sake of directing his movie, kill pretty much
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: all of these people involved with Janabates in some way.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: And the reason there is a maniac to slip box
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: for this is because primarily of Joe Spinell, who is
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: putting on absolute legends. And I think that this contest
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: personal favorite for my favorite Joe Spinell performance, because he's incredible. Absolutely,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: he is so sweaty, and of course in this he's
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: teamed up, not really teamed up with, but he's acting
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: primarily opposite Carolyn Monroe who plays Jana Bates, another legend.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: And what's so cool about this movie is it it approaches.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: So the thing here is that they shot they actually
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: shot a lot of this movie at nineteen eighty one
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: Can Film Festival, but without the approval of Can Film Festival.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: So you're seeing all this footage and it's showing like
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: there's a really cool shot of a Possession poster because
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: Possession was having its premiere at can Film Festival, and
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: there's like all this crowd footage and it was all
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: just gorilla style, like they were just shooting this movie
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: in the midst of it, and it has a little
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: bit of a meta tone because that's what he's doing.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: He's showing up and just kind of filming all this
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 5: stuff and piecing together this hack job of a movie.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: And what really stuck around with me this time is
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: how gnarly and in your face this movie is about
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: just Hollywood trash from like the higher up point, Like
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: every character aside from maybe one or two, is just
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: like the most despicable like wine scene level Hollywood executive,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: from agents to producers to directors. And I didn't really
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: pick up on it as much the first time, but
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: this time around, I was like, Oh, this movie is
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: really There's a moment where an agent and a producer
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: are talking and the agent or I think it was
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: the producer or the agent is telling one another like oh, yeah,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: you know, I got all this stuff on this guy,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: and and the producers like, the producers like, oh, you know,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: but Agent's like, well, you won't believe what I have
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: on you. It's just like this constant like just these
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: you know, easy pieces of trash, and you know, it's
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: kind of glorious when you see them get killed off.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: And there's some really really cool kills in this movie.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 5: There's some beheadings. There's a great chainsaw death as well
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: that I really loved. There's a great moment when Joe
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: Spinell goes and sees the premiere of a movie that's
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: being that was directed by one of the characters in
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: Janabates Life, and in a very meta moment, he sees
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: he's watching the movie. In the beginning of the movie
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: is some walking down the street and he gets attacked
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: by seemingly like a homeless lady like a hobo, who
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: cuts open his chest and rips out the man's beating heart,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: and Joe Spinell runs outside the theater physically sick, and
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: then when the director is kind of leaving out of
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: the back entrance, he begins to berate him about how
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: sick and violent this movie was and how demented he is,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: and all of this is happening in a pretty sick
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: and demented, vile slasher film, like that's what you know
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: what I mean. So it's like this really interesting little
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 5: meta point that's happening.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: And I just loved it.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: It feels there's these really crazy dream like moments, and
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: it really kind of blurs what's real and what's fake
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: and just how much this obsession is absolutely destroying Vinny's
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: character that's Joe Spinell, and I just love him. Man,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: this was so cool the second time around. I can't
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: imagine that this release could have been more comprehensive. I mean,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: it is a four K and all that you really
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: get on here is that you have two audio commentaries.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: You have an audio commentary with actress Caroline Munroe and
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: fright Fest Alan Jones, and there's also an audio commentary
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: with Joe Spinell's assistant, and then there is a illustrated
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: archival audio interview with the producer, as well as a
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: New York and Cam location visit hosted by Roomborgs, Michael
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: Gingold and David Gregory, one of the owners of several films.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: And I don't think there's really much more than that.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 5: There is a thick booklet that's part of this that like,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: this thing is one of the thickest I've ever seen
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: severn do. And this is where the real comprehension is,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: Like there's some incredible write ups in this booklet. But yeah,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: I mean this is just one of my favorites. Are
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: you guys last horror film fans?
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: Are you serious?
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: I've never seen it? God, Jordan, listen.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: Don't question Joe.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: Steve, do you have your copy within arms reach? Because
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: this other If you're a famous Monsters of Film Land fan, Jordan,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: you'll like this couple of.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: This slip box as well. Oh I've seen I've seen both.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, very very cool, man. I think you should get
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: your hands.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: On it, like, look at it.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: Oh, think you should?
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: I plan on it. I was already looking at online
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: looking at all. Right, how much is that maniac to one?
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: He's getting sweaty as.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: How much is the maniac to one? Going?
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: There's one right now for eighty dollars.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: I'm having another. I'm having another autopsy of Jane Doe
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: moment here, second time to day.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: No, that that that one Steve has is really cool.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, both are really cool. Man Severn just knocks it
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: out of the park with these movies. Man, here's still
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: one of my favorite boutique labels in the game. Jordan,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: I'm curious of what you're bringing to us man for
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: your next b Yeah.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: Let me so he lost it, can you hear me? Yeah? Yeah,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: we got you. Okay. So this next one, guys, this
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: one is a Hammer film's release and this was part
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: of their incredible year that they had last year. M
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: And this one is a actually it's a British crime
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: noir film and it is Whispering Smith Hits London. Okay,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: this was I was pleasantly surprised with this and it's
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: funny you watch this film, you could definitely see the
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: influences to the American noir genre. But anyways, it stars
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: this guy named his Whispering Smith played by Robert Carlson. Now,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: he's an American detective and he goes on vacation or
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: a holiday to London. And this guy he is a
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: very he's a popular, world renowned detective and he and
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: you know that by right when he flies in, the
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: movie opens up with him going into this airport and
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: right off the bat press fans, you know, everyone is
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: just berating him, trying to just talk to him, get interviews, whatnot.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: And he secretly likes it. He's all about it. He's
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: very full of himself. And then all of a sudden,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: this woman comes up saying, Hey, I know you're this
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: great detective. I need to hire you for something. My
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: boss's daughter. Okay, she was supposedly took her own life,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: but no, I don't think that's what happened. We want
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: to hire you to help us out. And he doesn't.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: He wants something about it and what to do with it.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: He's on vacation, so he kind of entertains her because
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: he's trying to basically get with her essentially, and he
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: eventually takes the case and it takes him down a
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: very very crazy path, a lot of red herrings. Actually,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: the actor Herbert Lohm, I don't know if you guys
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: know who that is, very very famous actor. He was
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: known for playing in basically being the main villain of
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: all of the old Pink Panther movies that that a
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: Qino just was putting out. But so that's him. He's
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: a very as a villainous look. He looks like you're
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: a typical Bond villain.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: Oh, he was the Phantom in the nineteen sixty two
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: Phantom of the Opera.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah, he just he has that look to him,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: those the eyes and everything. Well, this film, I was
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: just hooked right from the beginning. It was very well paced.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: I thought the film is incredible. Now, if we're talking
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: about special features, I think that's where Hammer Film shines.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: With these releases, It's pretty incredible the amount of stuff
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: they put it. I mean it makes sense. The production
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: company is handling their own releases, so they put everything
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: that they really have on on whatever release it is.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: You've got two cuts of the movie. You have the
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: the original Whispering Smith Hits London and the US cut
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: Whispering Smith versus Scotland Yard, which is that they change
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: it a little bit. It's what watch hits London. It's
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: it's better, but it's got some great stuff in here.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: It's got let me see, I can't remember off the
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: top of my head. Let's see here. You were getting
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: a lot of different featurettes. You're getting some interviews, two
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: different commentaries, So the the the theatrical original release has
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: a different commentary than the US cut. So there are
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: two different commentaries with that. They've got a really great
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: interview with this uh this historian. He is a noir
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: film historian, and he talks about this film and just
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: about all the the references to America noir, but also
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: talks about how this is a very interesting time with
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: Hammer because this is well before Hammer was really diving
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: into the gothic horrors, right the Frankett Signs of the
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: Dracula or Yeah, Dracula fifty two and after multi Falcon Yeah,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: And at the time they were really diving into these
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: crime thrillers and noir films and that was kind of
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: their bread and butter at the time, and this was
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: just happened to be one of This was one of them,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: along with like Blood Orange was another another one they
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: released this year that was similar to that, but great,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: great release. Highly recommend it if you're into those type
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: of films, think like the Big Heat and stuff like that.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: Great great movie.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: Listen to this run Steve, especially you. Herbert Lohm nineteen seventy.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 5: He does Mark of the Devil, which Vinegar Sindron put
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: out Fantastic movie nineteen seventy. He also is Van Helsing
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: and Count Dracula, which which I recognize him. From nineteen
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 5: seventy he was also in Jess Franco's Dorian Gray, which
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: is wait, it is this is this just for no, no, no, no,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry I was mixing up the title there. This
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: is Massimo Delamano's Dorian Gray. Excuse me for that mistake.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: So then he does murders in the Room Org in
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: nineteen seventy one. Nineteen seventy two, he's doctor Byron an
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 5: asylum in the Mannekins of Horror segment, and then he's
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 5: Sir Henry Fenn Griffin, who is my favorite character. And
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: now the screaming starts in nineteen seventy three.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: He's uh, he's documented. He is like well over one
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: hundred films or something like that.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm on his I mean this guy acted.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 5: His final role was in two thousand and four. His
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: first was in nineteen thirty seven.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 5: What a what a run man?
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: Holy hell? Yeah, he's I love him in this movie.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: And I'm sorry there's this meal spoiler. But the big
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: twist is he he's he's in on everything, but for
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: it being in the fifties. There's a shot in this movie,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: a kill scene which on the surface, it's you know,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: it's not that crazy, but when you dive into it
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: a little more, it gets pretty wild. So basically, someone
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: that he knows, they talk and he has to go.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: He has to go take care of him, right as often.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: So he goes into this guy's place of work and
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: he has radios and all this stuff in there, and
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: he goes he has uh I remember he had a gunner,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: and he goes turn on the radio and he makes
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: the guy turn on every radio and and his very
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: slow paced kill scene. It takes its time. It's very sadistic,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: and so you can't hear anything that way when he
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: goes and kills a guy, No, we can hear him.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: And I don't know what it is about that shot,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: but it is so well done, just a quick little scene,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: but I'm telling you it's it's really really good, great writing.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: Hammer's been crushing it with those physical media releases. Man,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: h yep, absolutely crushing it.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 5: Speaking of crushing it, though, I want to send it
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: back over to Steve for his next pick.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: Thanks for lining it up for me, dude.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: I just want to say I I fucking love hearing
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: Jordan talk about the bonus features for these Hammer releases because.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: Oh it's extensive.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: We preach so much on here about physical media's education,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: and I feel like in at least two more years,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 5: Jordan is going to be a hammer expert.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: After diving into those Dude, I'm telling you these hammers
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: and what's so great about these Sorry, I know we're
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: going to see them by. So great about these Hammer
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: releases is not only do they talk about the film itself,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: but they do job. They do these documentaries where they
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: even dive into the history of Hammer as a company
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: around said time that movie came out, So you can
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: not only learn about the film, but you learned about
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: the company as well, which I think is really fascinating.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: Which I think is so important that these are coming
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: from Hammer Direct, as opposed to them sourcing them out
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: to somebody else that maybe doesn't have that info or
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 5: that insight right to put in. You know, Sorry, Steve,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: we cut you off there.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, you guys are good. Okay. So the
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: next film that I want to talk about this evening
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: is none other than Sliver Baldwin Butt from nineteen ninety three.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: So I know we've talked about it before on here,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of eighties and nineties erotic thrillers,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: and this is definitely one that I have been waiting
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: a long time for from Vinegar Syndrome, same with Jade,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: so I'm happy to have both of these. Finally, this film,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: if you guys are unfamiliar with it, follows a young
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: woman play by Sharon Stone, moves into a sleek Manhattan
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: high rise, only to discover the building is basically wired
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: for constant surveillance, basically drawing her into a dangerous web
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: of like voyeurism, obsession, murder, and basically like privacy is
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: you know, an illusion. William Baldwin's in this, Tom Barringer
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: and I don't know, Like, what's your guys' take on
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: this film? Have you there? You guys seen it?
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: I have, Okay, then you can go ahead, Jordan, please
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: from what it's been a while. I saw it when
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: that Vander Syndrome came out that release, and I feel
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: like I wasn't a fan of the ending.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's strange.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 5: Well there, it's almost other ending.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: By the way.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 5: If you go thank you to four k Kings and
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 5: their live stream for talking about this. If you go
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 5: on YouTube, you can actually see the twenty minute original ending,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 5: which okay, according to them is much better, and well it.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: Had to be, because you know, see if you could
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: refresh my memory. But if I remember correctly, it kind
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: of just ends where or no, no, I think it
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: was spoiler. Yeah, I'm trying to remember when she discovers everything. Yeah,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: it was like she doesn't right away do anything about it,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: and then she kinda is with him for a bit
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: with it, and I thought that was so it was
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: at the ending. I can't remember. I'm the original.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 5: I don't know the original ending. Brief summaries After the
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 5: police assumed Jack to be the murderer of Carly and
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 5: Zeke burned the videotapes. Soon afterwards, they went atop the
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 5: Silver Building. On the her honeymoon, they fly a helicopter
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: over a Hawaiian volcano, where Carly reveals that she knows
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: he is the killer.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: That's the original or the theatrical.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: That's the original ending. She tells him that she still
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: has the tape of him murdering Gus in the shower
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 5: and that it's safe that she's willing to cover up.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 5: With their seatbelts off and Carl videotaping the volcano, Zeke
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 5: begins to lower the aircraft into the volcano, and then
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: cuts to Zeke's surveillance room, where the television is displayed
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: nothing but static and the end credits role leaving the
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 5: audience to decide whether they survive or not. And it
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 5: actually says here that the shooting of the final scene
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 5: resulted in the crashing of the helicopter. After an investigation,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 5: the pilot's certificate was temporarily suspended. Preview audience this audiences
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 5: disliked the idea of Carly turning immoral, so the ending
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: was rewritten and reshot to the one us in the final.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I had to look it up. Yeah, I
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: thought it was just kind of what was her name,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: Carly the Transtone's character. She's just kind of like, all right, Zeke,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: I'm done with you by right, and and the other
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: dude dies, and I'm thinking that that seems asked backwards
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: to me. I don't know. I just I didn't buy
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: the ending personally, but leaning up to it everything else
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: I did enjoy a lot.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you enjoy that that Baldwin butt.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: Baldwin.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 5: But dude, Sharon Stone is obviously a legend. I think,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 5: really it's tough because you're you're any any erotic thriller
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 5: that she was in around this time. You're comparing the
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 5: basic instinct mm HM, which is the king of erotic thrillers.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: I mean, absolutely, a monument of the genre, probably the
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: best example of an erotic thriller. And Sharon Stone is
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 5: just the queen of the erotic thriller. Even though she
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 5: wasn't really in all that much, she was just so
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 5: impactful in every role, and I think Sliver is a
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 5: role that she is very impactful.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: In, definitely, I mean, and it's cool to see that
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 4: these are finally getting, you know, especially with Vinegar Syndrome
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: going all out with this and Jade, to see them
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: get this premium treatment, you know. So with this release,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: it's a limited edition two discs four K blue ray set,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: so it comes with a nice hard slipcase and then
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: with the slipcover combo designed by Adam Mayata and then
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: includes a forty page book with it as well. So
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: I just remember this was a film between This and Jade,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: that were heavily speculated on for a long time, and
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: I'm a little late having a chance to like fully
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: dive in and appreciate this release, but if you guys
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: are a fan of eighties and nineties ic thrillers, this
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: is definitely one of the ones that want to add
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: your collection.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's a great release. Erotic thrillers are one
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: of my favorite genres. I'm currently doing, like a big letterbox,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 5: the ranking of a whole bunch of not great as
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 5: I'm learning great erotic thrillers on TV, but the varying
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: degrees I'm learning there's some decent ones on there, you
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 5: know what I mean. But to go from erotic thrillers
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 5: to nineteen seventies adult films my final pick, that was
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: not as well a transition as I as I thought
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 5: it was going to be. I saved the best for last.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 5: Last year, I was watching Ryan's show Reconnected and he
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 5: spoke about Vineger Syndrome getting their hands on the Mitchell
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 5: Brothers filmography as well as the rights to release them.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 5: And at the time I knew nothing about the Mitchell
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: Brothers or what this was. This was just a big
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 5: deal in the space and that obviously these are gonna
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 5: be put out by Meluscene because these are technically considered
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 5: like X rated adult films. Well months go by, the
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 5: official announcement comes out and we get the first in
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 5: the Mitchell Brothers Film Group releases, and this is Behind
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 5: the Green Door from nineteen seventy two, and I bought this.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: I want to thank Mike and Deb from the Movie
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 5: Room for sending this my way, because I was very
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: excited to see Melusine pop up on with the Vinegar
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 5: Syndrome selection. And of course now the second release, Resurrection
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 5: of Eve, is available on Movie Room as well. But
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 5: I was very excited to see this pop up because
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 5: I mainly I collect movies that I love and that
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 5: I want to watch over and over again, but I
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 5: also love to curate and kind of I want my
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: wife and I's collection to be a little bit of
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 5: like a like a like a history in film. You know,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 5: there's very important pieces here that I feel like we
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: have to own and we have to support physically, even
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: though it's something I'm not going to go back and
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 5: watch over and over and over again. And this is
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 5: one of those titles. And essentially Behind the Green Door
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: tells the story of this young woman who is abducted
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: and she is forcefully initiated into lie a series of
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 5: live sex acts on a private stage in front of
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 5: a live audience. And this movie's most known for being
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 5: the premiere of Marilynd Chambers, who went on to be
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 5: an absolute legend in the genre. And I don't know
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 5: how to approach conversation about this movie without anybody feeling like, oh,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 5: you're just talking about an adult film, because it goes
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 5: beyond that. The Mitchell brother were just so revolutionary in
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 5: their approach. These guys were sued listen to this over
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 5: one hundred and eighty times for what they showed in
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 5: their clubs. Yikes, like they've spent so much time in
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: courtrooms and one all.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: Of the cases.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 5: It's pretty incredible what Artie and Jim Mitchell went through
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 5: on their pursuit of trying to pretty much without even
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 5: though they were doing it, revolutionize the adult film industry
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 5: the seventies. And Behind the Green Door is so interesting
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 5: because there is a production value to it and an
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 5: artfulness to it that I wasn't expecting. There's like real
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 5: effort going in here, and you can see that the
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 5: intention behind this was to go, you know, beyond what
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 5: we know of the adult films of today. You know
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 5: what I mean of what you're finding your on the
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 5: private section of your Internet browser. And I think what's
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 5: most important here is I'm so happy I saw it
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 5: and that I experienced it. But the bonus features in
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 5: here are really what pushed it over for me and
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 5: what I think are so important. So you get a
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 5: full booklet with this release with some incredible write ups.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 5: But let me get there's so much stuff in these releases.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 5: I feel like it takes me two minutes to get
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: to the case, you know what I mean. Just so,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 5: in this release you are getting a feature length audio
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 5: commentary with the Marilynd Chambers biographer Jared Stearns, as well
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 5: as a two part audio interview with actor George MacDonald
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 5: moderated by Ashley West of The Rialto Report, which The
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 5: realto Report is one of the best adult film podcasts
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 5: in history ever made. The Blu ray discs this is
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 5: a four K I forgot to add. The Blu ray
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 5: disc contains a forty five minute documentary called Behind the
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 5: Mitchell Brothers Film Group Preserving the Legacy, And this is
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 5: sort of a spin off of the Against the Grain
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 5: documentary that was part of the Last Picture Show that
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 5: dove into the restoration efforts and kind of the practices
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 5: behind vinegar syndrome, and how important the restoration efforts they're
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 5: putting forth is. This feels like an extension of that,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 5: And they pretty much dive into detail about why this
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 5: was so important for them to get how special this
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 5: was and how much time and effort went into properly
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 5: restoring these movies, and that there is a love for
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: this film and these filmmakers and everybody involved, and no
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 5: matter your feel on or your opinion on this genre
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 5: of film, it is still art and it deserves to
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: be treated and preserved like that and put out into
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 5: this release, and it's incredible companion.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: For this movie.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 5: And it was such a great like it was really
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 5: the justification for me of why I took a chance
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 5: on this and why I ended up loving this so much.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 5: This documentary really affirmed what I was feeling going into
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 5: the release and what I was hoping I was going
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 5: to get. So if anybody listening to this, because you know,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 5: when I posted Behind the Green Door on Instagram, I
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 5: was really anxious about it because I was like, how
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 5: are my followers going to feel about me posting an
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 5: adult film?
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: I was intrigued, Dude.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 5: I got so many messages from people that were like,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 5: holy shit, dude, this is incredible, like this is so important,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 5: and I bought this and I loved it, and I
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 5: just felt like I kind of like had my people there,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 5: you know, like I was like, oh yeah, more people
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 5: were in like this is super cool, and it was
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 5: just really cool to spread the word and you know,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 5: still continue this conversation and there's still some bonus features
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 5: on here I have to get into as well as
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 5: I have to finish the booklet. I also forgot to
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 5: add that this comes with the CD soundtrack for the
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 5: movie as well, because the score is incredibly haunting, believe
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 5: it or not for the subject matter that's on the screen.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 5: But also Behind the Green Door was a based on
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 5: a short story that is in print in this release.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 5: It's featured on the inside of the case in a
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 5: little book in a little booklet. I believe it's eighty
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 5: page or something about eighty pages long, but you can
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 5: read the original short story it's here as well as
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 5: you get a poster and a bunch of other fun
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 5: stuff scattered in here. So Behind the Green Door from
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 5: Vinegar Syndrome and Meliosine. I know this is sold out
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 5: on the Movie Room, but it's still in stock over
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 5: at at Melo. You scene for anybody who wants to
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 5: anybody who wants to pick it up.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 5: Feel like I feel like showstopper, bro.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: I feel like I nailed that. I don't know How'm
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: gonna follow up that.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 5: Well, Jordan, you got one more. Let's uh, let's end
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 5: it on a good note.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: So this one right here, I actually picked up this one. Uh,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: you know, huge thanks to the movie Room sent this
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: one out. And that is this film from Vinegar Syndrome.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: They put out Time Crimes. Now, when I originally heard
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: of this movie was when Umbrella I think it was
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: last year released the blu ray of that and I
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: wanted to pick it up, but I just kind of
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: slept on it and it actually sold out very fairly quickly.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: I was surprised. And this was one of those releases,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: those films where I was always kind of scouring, you know,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: read it Facebook, keepay to see if I can find it.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: Never can find it, you know under you know a
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: crazy amount of money. But Viniger Syndrome announced the four
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: K and I so I really wanted to jump in
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: on this. Uh, this is a great great. You know,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: it's a film about this guy. It opens up. It's
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: kind of a simple concept. At first. He's just sitting
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: in his backyard and his house is up against this
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: forest tree line and he's sitting there with just binoculars
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: and he sees this woman in the forest and he's
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: very intrigued. Mind you, this dude's married, so then or
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: has a girlfriend, doesn't really specify. Yeah, but anyways, he
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: decides he's going to go and find this girl. And
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: while he's off looking for her, this uh this man.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: He gets attacked by this man wrapped in bandages around
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: his face and uh so the guy he goes off
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: running the guy who gets attacked, and he winds up
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: at this scientific lab that's in this forest and there's
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: a scientist there and he said, hey, get in here.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: He opens up this device that opens up. He says,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: get in here, hide, okay, cool, So he gets in there.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: The thing closes.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: Then when he lets him out, he realizes he's hours
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: and he went like a few hours in the past,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: and now when he escapes, he's looking around and then
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 3: he comes across the same woman that he saw earlier.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: But he also sees sees himself looking through the binoculars.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: So he's he's he's got another the other view of himself.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 4: Crazy.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: Anyways, this keeps happening, and I don't know how much
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: I want to go into spoilers because this is a
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: great film. All I'm saying is the concept of this
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: movie is that everything in our lives, stuff that's happened
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 3: according to this is predetermined, predestined, and nothing we can
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: do or try to do can change the outcome that's
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: already set in place. You do whatever you want, but
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: it's always gonna lead back to what is supposed to happen.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: So that's kind of the idea of the movie. You have,
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: you haven't, No, you really should. I highly recommend this one.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 5: I want to say, I think I did see the
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 5: movies unofficial prequel Clockstoppers.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, I haven't seen that one.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 5: Anybody here know the Disney movie Clockstoppers?
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: Okay, So joking, I was gonna say, over.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 5: My head, I don't know, somebody listening to this is
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 5: gonna be like clock Stoppers.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: I remember that movie. Sorry, and it's this So this
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: is a Spanish film, and I gotta say they Vinegar
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: Syndrome did some incredible work with this release, as they
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: you know, always do, so this is a four K
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: with this, You're eating a bunch of brand new stuff,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: like two brand new audio commentaries, one with the director,
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: writer and actor. Sorry if I'm mess pronounced his name.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 3: I always mess up. Nacho h the Viglando, I think
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: it's his name. And then that was one that Justin
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: Li Liberty was involved in. He moderated that interview. You're
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: getting another brand new audio commentary track with podcaster Alexandra
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: Alexandra West. There's an archival one. You're getting a new
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: interview with the director, which I thought was fantastic. What's
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: funny about that interview and I was laughing watching it
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: is he takes like the first five ten minutes apologizing
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: that his English isn't good and then proceeds to do
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: the whole interview in English. I'm like, dude, just just
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: doing in Spanish man, and it was he really wanted
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: to do it in English, and it was It's funny
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: to me that he just took that whole time to
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 3: really apologize about it. But you gave brand new visual essays.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: There's a making of an archival making of the film.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: There's just this thing is loaded. And I want to
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 3: say more, but I really want to you know, once
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: you guys experience seeing this movie for the first time,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: because I'm telling you there's so many twists and turns.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: If you're into like time travel movies that deal with that,
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: this is a really really fun one. It's not it's
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: not quite a horror film. It's I would say it's
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: more of a thriller, but man, it's it's it's really good.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 5: So this is currently sold out over at the movie room.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 5: It looks like uh kind of slipcover. The slip case
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 5: has over two thousand left in stock over on Vinegar
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 5: Syndrome right their direct website. I love this color palette.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 5: This this green outer slip box with the red slip
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 5: cover on the inside.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm yeah. So you see how if you're looking
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: at the picture. Sorry for people listening, but how the
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: way these slip boxes are they have that notch m
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 3: m and just the design. They don't have it on
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 3: the picture. But if you reverse the slipcover around, so
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: there's the there is the front of the slip cover.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but if you flip it so they have
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 3: it in. They have it in like this with the red.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: But what's really cool is if you flip it around,
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: it just it lines up. Oh and that's my Yeah,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: it's just something a cool, little out of touch. There's
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: a great booklet in here as well, just different write
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: ups about the film.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 5: This was released from them. Seven thousand units they released
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 5: of this. It's a big deal. I mean this movie.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: You know, when I when I uploaded my video on it,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: I had a lot of people talking about how much
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 3: they loved it and this. I had never heard of
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: this movie obviously before Umbrella you know, announced it. But yeah,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: definitely a must watch, a must own. I think, yeah,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: it's it's It's a great one.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 5: Damn I'll have it linked below directly from Vinegar Syndrome's website.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 5: Still available, over two thousand left in stock of the
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 5: limited editions case so very very good. Pick Jordan, see
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 5: how are you gonna? How are you gonna? How are
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 5: you gonna take us out of here?
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna have to hitch you guys with none
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 4: other than nineteen ninety six is bound and the Wachowski's.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 5: Is not Kanye West, not even close.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 3: I'm out then, wo.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: So this film obviously came out before the Matrix, and
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 4: this was their debut film. Have you guys checked this
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 4: out from Criterion?
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 5: I told you before I see it, haven't and you
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: were upset with me.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, neither have I. And actually, Steven, you're the one
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: who told me to check this out as well at
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 3: one point. I see it every time I'm at Barnes
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: and Noble during you know, June or July, whenever it is.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 4: You have no excuses.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: I know I see it every time, but there's other
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 3: ones that just jump out at me.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 5: I not to tell you listen to make it worse
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 5: to Jordan.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: I own this.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 5: I think I bought it during the last Bogo sales,
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 5: so I might have to watch it as soon as
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 5: we're done. I actually said that Chris recorded this that
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 5: I was going to watch it after the episode, and
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 5: I didn't, and.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 4: It still hasn't happened.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 5: So I I look, I pinky promise you cross my
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 5: heart that I will watch it.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 4: Listen if you enjoy Behind the Green Door. This is
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 4: not that far removed from it, I promise.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 5: Right up my alley.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 4: So the film stars Gina Gershan, Joey Pants, Jennifer Tilly,
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 4: and it's it's basically about x con trying to escape
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 4: her past, and you also have the girl, the girlfriend
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 4: of a violent mobster, as their unexpected romance sparks a
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 4: daring plan to steal millions of his illicit money. So
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 4: it's almost like a neo noir type film. You've got
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 4: elements of like eroticism, tension, you know, there's the crime
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 4: thriller aspect to it, betrayal. The whole film feels like
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 4: these characters, it's you're seeing how far their trust can
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 4: be tested if you've got desire basically survival at every
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 4: turn throughout this film. And what I love about it
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 4: is I feel like it's a movie that doesn't get
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 4: talked about enough. I know when this four K came out,
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 4: there was a lot of physical media collectors that were,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 4: you know, bringing this up in discussion, and I just think,
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 4: for as impactful as the matrix is in its own right,
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 4: I think this is a film that definitely deserves to
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 4: be talked about more, especially when it comes to nineties films,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 4: let alone erotic thrillers. The four K looked incredible and
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 4: on this release there's an audio commentary featuring both of
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 4: the directors, actor actress Gina Gershan, actor Joey Pantalon Pantaloni,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 4: and Jennifer Tilley on it.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 5: You got joe Pandala. He's my favorite character in the Matrix.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. I always remember from from The Sopranos,
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 4: so it's kind of kind of the same. Yeah. And
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 4: then you have the interview or the audio commentary with
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 4: uh edan editor Zach Steinberg and technical consultant Susie Bright.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 4: You have a new video essay on here by film
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 4: credit Christina Newland, plus six interview programs with a multitude
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 4: of the cast and people behind the scenes. So if
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 4: you're looking for a really solid movie to pick up
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 4: during the next Criterion sale, I highly recommend this one.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 4: This is probably top of the list for me. If
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm trying to make suggestions for anyone.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 5: Did you check out the visual essay that's on here?
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: Just just curious.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 4: I haven't had a chance to dive into it yet.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 4: I want to.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 5: I love criterions visual essays.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they I feel like they definitely deliver. I mean
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 4: this is these are releases basically for film you know, lovers,
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 4: and I feel like that this release is no less.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 5: Do you think that this movie inspired Kanye West Bound.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 3: Let's see. I'm going to google it right now.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 5: Before the Bound movie.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 3: I inspired by the movie by the Wachowski's Bound.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was actually Behind the Green Door, Let's See.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 5: No, the nineteen ninety six and Neo nor Throw Bound
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 5: did not inspire the twenty thirteen Kanye West song Bound two.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 5: All right, and then oh then there's a Bound three,
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 5: which was this death Rogan James Ranco music video. Very nice.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's uh. I felt like this was a
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 4: very well rounded array of selections we picked out for
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 4: after ours.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I'm very happy with what we got a
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 5: chance to talk about. Especially there was some stuff that
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 5: I really wanted to kind of get out in the world,
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 5: and I think that's that was like, especially Behind the
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 5: Green Door. I was very nervous to talk about it.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 5: But I feel better now that I just you know,
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 5: got it off my check, don't Chris, thank you, thank you.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 5: I do wish though, that I could find a way
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 5: to cut in all of the the you know, inappropriate
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 5: ways that I in the last episode that we recorded
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 5: with Ryan that unfortunately is gonna be lost. The time
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 5: when I was talking about Behind the Green Door I
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 5: made several references to very explicit sexual acts that were
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 5: completely accidental, that just happened. Sometimes when you're talking about
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 5: movies like that, Jordan, you would.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 3: Have loved it. I wish I was there.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 5: Well, gentlemen, thank you so much for doing this episode
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 5: of After Hours. Jordan. Thank you for jumping on at
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 5: the last minute, coming in to save the day.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you well.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. I always always happy to
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 3: be be on here, and anytime you guys need me
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: let me.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 5: Know, of course. Man, we love and appreciate you so much.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 5: Let people know what you got going on. Maybe where
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 5: they can find you anything like address, social Security number,
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 5: credit card, motion, Yeah, where they could actually find you.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 9: Yeah, the the actual Google maps, latitude, longitude numbers, a
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 9: pin drop a pin I'll just no Jordan, the movie den.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 3: You can find me on Instagram or YouTube or them
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: two main that I frequent. I'm put someself up on
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 3: TikTok every every now and then. I dabble with that,
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 3: but yeah, I come hang out. Talking about movies is
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 3: pretty much all I all I do, and coming up
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: not not a whole lot. I'm gonna be going. Well,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 3: we've got our coming up. So we're almost at the
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 3: end of January rebody, so next month we're gearing up
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 3: for what is it year in nineteen eighty three. Yes,
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: so we have some great, great films to talk about
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 3: in that one every year for that, every time we
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: do one, the next year gets harder with the with
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 3: the releases, I swear, but no, I just did a
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 3: video today kind of going over some titles that I
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 3: think don't have the releases that they deserve, that there
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 3: needs to be more different type of whether it be upgrades, packaging,
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 3: you know, whether that they need more than what we
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 3: currently have. So that video just opened or just came
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 3: out today, and uh yeah, not not much else. We
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 3: just have that live planned and just kind of trucking
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 3: along with everyday videos. That's that's really about it. Come
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 3: hang out. They have a lot of fun.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, I'll make sure I have everything for Jordan
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 5: linked down below. I think my favorite thing about outside
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 5: of your beautiful personality and you're it's stunning good looks
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 5: about being friends with you for all these years has
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 5: been the growth of that collection behind you, which has
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 5: quite literally evolved over the last I feel like twelve
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 5: months or so it's pretty incredible.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 3: It's definitely uh turn into its own beast for sure.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 5: I just realized we have the same carry poster hanging
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 5: up too. It's to microw Do you really?
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gotta be one of my carrier which, by
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: the way, I'm gonna take this time because I know
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 3: I know boutique labels listening to this podcast, I just
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 3: got to get on my soapbox. We want posters, art cards?
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 3: You can save those for later. Yeah, I'm telling you,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: there's there's a couple labels out there that they do
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: art cards, no posters, and it drives me nuts because
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 3: I like to put my posters up.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 4: You don't frame the art cards.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 3: What are you gonna frame the art cards.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 5: In those guard frames? Heck, come on, man, It's like
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 5: I actually thought about that before. I was like, I
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 5: wonder what I can do with these art cards. It's
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 5: just literally nothing, Like I don't know, they.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 3: Just sit in the box as a spaceholder. Really yeah,
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: so the rest of them fall out.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 5: I was gonna say, Yeah, they're there to prevent the
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 5: case from banging back and forth in the box when
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 5: I move it, exactly, Ye, Steve, let people know as
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 5: always where they can find you at.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 4: You guys can find me at after Hours video on
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 4: social media. Ours is abbreviated co hosts Beyond the Blood
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 4: and we're definitely busy over here.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah go check that out.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh yeah, outside of that, I mean those
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 4: are those are really two main focuses.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, and you guys always find me at Bearded
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 5: film guy over on Instagram, always talking about physical media.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 5: Actually going to be on co hosting The Shelf Shock
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 5: Rewind Awards. Damn, that's coming up in February. We're gearing
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 5: up for that right now, so please please come check
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 5: that out. Is my awards show debut. I hope I
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 5: do a good job. You're gonna wear tucks.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 4: I was gonna ask that.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 3: I am not.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 5: I have not not doing that. Man, if it was
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 5: physically in person, I would definitely maybe throw on a
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 5: tux t shirt, you know, the one that has the
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 5: tucks printed on the front, that looks like you're wearing
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 5: a tux. But I think I'm just gonna be attending
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 5: this event casual attire. I don't want to outshine our stars,
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 5: which are the physical.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 3: Well, then you need to wear then if you're gonna
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: go casual. You need to wear shirts talking about print
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 3: screen printed shirts as like all the muscles on the.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was sinking about wearing the one that like
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 5: makes me the wearing a bikini.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 3: There you go. What do you think about that? Yeah?
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 5: Or I might wear like a Blockbuster polo.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 4: I could respect that.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 3: There you go, it's pretty good. Hollywood Video t shirt.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 5: Hollywood Video was where I predominantly went over over Blockbuster
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 5: because it was a closer walk. Yep, we had across
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 5: like four lanes to get to the two most attended
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 5: establishments aside from our home, which was Friendlies and Hollywood Video.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 5: And that It's funny because when I got older, and
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 5: I was when I would revisit the town that I
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 5: partly grew up in, I realized that the Blockbuster that
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 5: my dad would have to drive us to was only
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 5: like on the other side of the shopping plaza and
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 5: we weren't allowed to go that far. So yeah, to
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 5: drive us there, I'm like, it's right there. I had
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 5: no idea the whole time. Crazy how that happens. Well,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 5: thank you everyone for all of the love and all
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 5: the listens so far in twenty twenty six. If you're
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 5: listening to this and you haven't, please go back listen
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 5: to our main episode this month where we covered Sergio
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 5: Martinos Torso from nineteen seventy three. Ryan from The Disconnected
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 5: was on that. And looking forward, February is a pretty
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 5: packed out month. We're going to be covering for our
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 5: main episode, Paul ws Anderson's Event Horizon. The commentary track
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 5: for that we're gonna be diving into, as well as
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 5: debuting a new series from us that we're calling Staff Picks,
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 5: which will be kind of popping in month to month.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 5: Not gonna say it's a consture. What's that what I do?
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 4: Popping in?
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there we go.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 5: I didn't even realize I did that. It's going to
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 5: be popping in month to month on any months that
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 5: we don't have any interviews going up, and that's designed
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 5: to be a little bit more of just a conversation
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 5: based podcast. We're not going to be covering any commentaries
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 5: on there or anything, just talking about some of our
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 5: favorite movies. I don't know if I already just said yet,
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 5: nineteen ninety one's Popcorn and we're gonna be hanging out
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 5: with my wife on that episode. Hell yeah, so incredibly
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 5: excited for that, very happy to have heron, excited to
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 5: have that conversation. So thank you for all the love,
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 5: all the support. Remember physical media is education. And a
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 5: huge thank you to the Movie Room as always for
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 5: backing us for these episodes of After Hours. We'll see
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 5: you guys on the next one, see you guys later.
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