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- 0:15Welcome to Barbara Cuts, Beats and bars.
- 0:17We're a father daughter music podcast that slices into some of
- 0:20the greatest albums, one cut at a time.
- 0:22With no industry ties or formal training, just a shared love of
- 0:25music, we explore albums across genres, writing favorites and
- 0:30skips while digging into what makes each one iconic.
- 0:33I bring the beats. And I bring the bars and
- 0:36together we deliver real talk and fresh takes from both sides
- 0:39of the sound. Hey everyone, I'm Riley.
- 0:42And I'm Todd, and welcome to this week's Barber Cuts, where
- 0:46we talk about the dark. No, what are we talking about
- 0:50this week? Cut.
- 0:53Yeah, the script goes wrong. I got in your head.
- 0:56The lunatic is in your head, you might say.
- 1:00This is true. We are talking about elephants
- 1:02by The White Stripes this week so we have now switched.
- 1:08We are talking about least favorites to open us up.
- 1:11So what do you think, Riley? Least favorites?
- 1:15I'm gonna guess that our least favorites were the same, but
- 1:21they may not be. I don't know.
- 1:24I also just think that these would be most people's least
- 1:26favorites, but I could be totally off.
- 1:31The first one is Little Acorns. That one, though, you like the
- 1:37beat. That was that was not one of
- 1:40mine. And I was like, hey, you know, I
- 1:44was like, I thought an ad started.
- 1:47So I like stopped what I was doing In Sync repair time in the
- 1:51house and like, wait, an ad started.
- 1:54I don't there shouldn't be ads like, Oh no, this is a song.
- 1:57Then figured out it was about squirrels.
- 1:59It's like, I wonder if this is going to be Riley's favorite
- 2:02just because it's about squirrels.
- 2:04I know I was so rooting for it. In case anyone listening is
- 2:08wondering, squirrels are my favorite animal.
- 2:10Like I love squirrels so I was so rooting for it.
- 2:15I love the message, I love the lyrics.
- 2:17I don't love the song. Yeah, it it was a bit to get to
- 2:23it, but like the music side of it was not bad, but half of it
- 2:26seemed to be the guy I talked about it so.
- 2:30Yeah, the music side came too late, too little too late.
- 2:35And it just it. Didn't fit, but not one of my
- 2:37least favorites. It didn't really fit with the
- 2:39rest of the album, in my opinion.
- 2:41That was more of it. It was so awkward and so kind of
- 2:45just thrown in there that it really confused me.
- 2:51My, it's this one is probably my least favorite.
- 2:54That one was probably my second least favorite.
- 2:57It's true that we love one another.
- 2:59That was mine too. Yep, I it's OK respectfully.
- 3:05It was grating to me. Like to listen to I like I I
- 3:11could not do it. Yeah.
- 3:14It's just annoying. It was an annoying song and to
- 3:17end the album with it was like, huh?
- 3:21Yeah, I agree. It just wasn't it just wasn't
- 3:24one of my like it just it just didn't mesh for so, but that's
- 3:30alright. My my, but I get you.
- 3:34My my other one was in the cold, cold night and it it again, it
- 3:41was that it. And the reason it wasn't was
- 3:47because for me, it it had a very interesting sound, almost like a
- 3:54twenties, 30s slow, sultry vibe to it, but it just blended into
- 4:01the background for me. And so it didn't you know, it
- 4:05didn't do anything other than and and ironically, the
- 4:11weirdness of little acorns kept that one out and the plainness
- 4:15of cold, cold night actually probably is what got it into my
- 4:19least favorite for me, surprisingly.
- 4:21But but again, in the cold, cold night, like it as it played more
- 4:26and more. I still listen to it like it the
- 4:29last one that it's true that we love one like I would skip that
- 4:33one and move on. Especially it's also got the
- 4:37like minute long, 2 minute long empty space pause at the end.
- 4:43That was just weird too. But anyway, yeah, alright, so
- 4:50let's quickly shift over to favorite songs.
- 4:54What's your what's your favorite song?
- 4:57So I would say, sorry, can I, can I tell them what happened?
- 5:05This is this is pertinent to my mental.
- 5:09You don't have to edit out these breaks 'cause this is just my
- 5:12life right now. I had, I, I got bit by a kitten
- 5:15in the woods and I, I've had to get the rabies shots and go
- 5:20through that process and all of the vaccines and antibiotics and
- 5:24everything are making me mentally not there.
- 5:28I'm OK though. I'm 100% OK, just Spacey.
- 5:33Anyway, my favorite one of them was the air near my fingers.
- 5:40I liked the flow that was there. It really reminded me of a song
- 5:47called Two Against 1, I believe. Yeah.
- 5:52Danger Mouse, funnily enough. But it's like the way he raps is
- 5:58very. It's not rap, it's talk singing.
- 6:01But it has like a nice flow and like a little and like, it just
- 6:05has a nice little flow to it. Yeah.
- 6:07And I like that. My favorite one was There's no
- 6:12home for you here anymore. I can't remember the full name
- 6:16of the song. That's on me.
- 6:17Yeah, you got. It there's no home for you here.
- 6:22There's no home for you here this one.
- 6:26I will say I liked the beat of this one and that's why I became
- 6:29my favorite. So a little taboo for Miss
- 6:34Lyrical over here, but I really just liked how it sounded.
- 6:39I really liked how it sounded. I thought it had a nice beat.
- 6:44I thought the way like the drums kind of match.
- 6:47The voices worked really well, if that makes any sense.
- 6:50Like the part where it's like very choppy.
- 6:52There's no home for you here and like there's no home for you
- 6:56here. Go Away.
- 6:58Like it's very choppy and it matches the drums.
- 7:00I thought that sounded really nice.
- 7:04It's a song about hating someone, which is really funny.
- 7:07That's just really funny to me. It's like being mad at someone
- 7:10enough to like, be like go away. So yeah, I would say that's my
- 7:15favorite, mostly because of the beat.
- 7:18So it must have been a good beat.
- 7:19Get beat. Yeah, and and I'll mention to it
- 7:23because I'll come back to this for my favorite song, but
- 7:28there's something in there called loud, soft, loud
- 7:30switching. So where they're soft or loud
- 7:36and then switch to a soft and then go back to loud, they do
- 7:40that back and forth. But I'll I'll circle back to
- 7:43that. But the so one of my favorites,
- 7:49I mean, yes, I am going to be a Homer and go with 7 Nation Army
- 7:54because I do really love that song.
- 7:57And so you know, the the title just coming from thinking of you
- 8:05and this may not have been him, but that's what he used to call
- 8:07Salvation Army. And so thinking back to words as
- 8:12you know, you and Wesley as kids and just messing up words and
- 8:16like, that's funny to me, you know, and but so common in
- 8:22sports. So I'm pulling a story from
- 8:24soccer just because I'm a soccer fan and soccer here in the US
- 8:30football for our non-us fans, which they're growing.
- 8:34Shout out to our people in Sweden.
- 8:38So we love you Sweden. So Club Rouge fans started
- 8:43singing the the riff song or the beginning riff that everybody
- 8:48knows in a match in the Champions League in 2003.
- 8:51So like as the album came out and they start singing anymore
- 8:59after one of their players score, they end up winning the
- 9:01game and became like an unofficial anthem for that Club
- 9:07Bruges team. And so Fast forward three years,
- 9:11a team from Rome to another Italian team came to play them
- 9:17and the Italian team then took it back with them.
- 9:23So Roma is the team and then the Italian fans then started
- 9:29chanting it in the 2006 World Cup, which was in Germany.
- 9:35Well, guess who won the 2006 World Cup?
- 9:39Italy. So now you've got all these fan
- 9:42Italian fans going through the streets of Rome.
- 9:47And, of course, think for the US, people like winning the
- 9:55World Cup huge only every four years.
- 9:59Parades are insane. Go find some of them on YouTube
- 10:03and watch some of them. But Italian fans are just
- 10:07strolling through the streets singing the riff of this.
- 10:09And, you know, so somebody called up and Jack White said
- 10:14there's a quote from him. I am honored that the Italians
- 10:16have adopted this song of their own.
- 10:19Nothing is more beautiful in music than when people embrace a
- 10:22medal, a melody, and allow it to enter the pantheon of folk
- 10:26music. I was like, that's, that's
- 10:28really cool. And that's what makes music
- 10:31neat, that people just take something and something so
- 10:35simple as what he did. But anyway, back to the music.
- 10:40It's by far the most popular. Almost 2 billion streams on
- 10:43Spotify. Opening riff, simple, great
- 10:47guitar solos great. And again, going back to the
- 10:51loud, soft, loud. It's it's also in my most
- 10:55popular or in my most favorite song, which I'll get to now is
- 11:00Ball and Biscuit. I love that.
- 11:03That was third from. Me, I really love that song.
- 11:06It's so bluesy. It starts off and then with with
- 11:10a guitar RIP and then the beat of the drums, you know, and you
- 11:17know, shout out to Meg White who gets like, you know, a lot of
- 11:22people are like, oh, she's simplistic in her drumming, but
- 11:25it makes so much sense and makes it so much better when that
- 11:29drums are so simplistic. And again, Ball and Biscuit has
- 11:34got the loud, soft, loud. And so, you know, this loud,
- 11:39soft, loud is something that Nirvana really popularized with.
- 11:43Never mind, but they really got it from the Pixies in mid 80s.
- 11:51Who? Who really?
- 11:52You know, of course it's been going on before them, but they
- 11:54really mainstreamed it and in late 80s.
- 11:59And so you've got their longest song.
- 12:04It's shade over 7 minutes, but three guitar solos, which is for
- 12:11somebody that likes the guitars and, and that it was just
- 12:15fantastic. So that was the loud part of it.
- 12:19So you know, 15350 and 5 minutes in the song each of them.
- 12:25Man, those guitars are absolutely insane, bluesy rock.
- 12:34And then ironically, this song 1 of readers poll and put forth by
- 12:42Rolling Stone in 2012 as the best Jack White song, Ball and
- 12:47Biscuit, and it was never released as a single.
- 12:51So even more impressive that that's the one that that one.
- 12:57Yeah. So those are our favorites.
- 13:02So I will also say. Yeah, go.
- 13:05Yeah, I love his use of saying folk music.
- 13:12Like for his description. Folk music I say is one of my
- 13:16favorite genres because of the common name of folk.
- 13:19No, however he used it perfectly.
- 13:24Folk music is like such a weird genre because it literally just
- 13:28means music that defines a culture or is part of the
- 13:32culture or is part of the story of a place.
- 13:34Like that's the meaning of like a folk tale.
- 13:37It's like part of the culture. So like it's going to sound
- 13:41dumb, but like Memphis rap is part of Memphis folk music
- 13:44because it defines part of the culture there.
- 13:47But you would never call it folk music, right?
- 13:50Like not in today's climate and you would never call this folk
- 13:54music either. But for Italy, it's it's part of
- 13:56the folk, like it's part of the culture there.
- 13:59And that's why I love folk music.
- 14:02I love the what we call folk music now today.
- 14:05So like Lumineers, that type of folk pop.
- 14:08But I always say that I love folk music, like in the actual
- 14:13definition, because even if I don't love the genre, like I'm a
- 14:16lyric person, I'm a story person, I love when music
- 14:19defines part of the culture of a place because that's so cool.
- 14:25That's something so unique that music can do that.
- 14:29Like you can be enemies, but be like, oh, that sounds really
- 14:32cool. So I'm going to use that too,
- 14:34like in soccer and stuff like that, like, and that sharedness
- 14:39of it is so I keep saying cool. It's just impressive that music
- 14:45can do that. And so I love that he used folk
- 14:47music like that accurately. And it's neat, you know, I
- 14:51didn't mention it, but you, you're saying that people people
- 14:54take music and then assume it as their own and shift it and move
- 14:57it. You know, a lot of the clubs
- 15:00that that do this, they'll they'll take the riff and then
- 15:03they'll put their favorite players names to the words, but
- 15:06sing it to that riff. So again, incorporating that
- 15:11tune into their culture by using iconic names of people.
- 15:16And so it's it's still just neat what what music can do.
- 15:20Yeah, it's it's incredible. I do also wanna give a shout out
- 15:27to a song that I could not realistically put as my favorite
- 15:29song but was so funny to me. The girl you have no faith in
- 15:36medicine. Reading the lyrics.
- 15:41I'm. I'm going to shout out, I'm sure
- 15:43guys do this too, but I'm going to shout out some of the girls
- 15:45here. Just just the girls.
- 15:48OK, There's something. I'm a public health major.
- 15:53I believe in medicine. I believe in vaccines, hence the
- 15:56rabies vaccine. I believe in all of it, OK, If
- 16:00there's science behind it, if I have a headache, I still refuse
- 16:03to take ibuprofen. That's still the last thing that
- 16:06I think to do. Like, Mama Barber, you, everyone
- 16:11will tell me, like, don't forget Advil's your friend, Tylenol's
- 16:14your friend. And I'm like, yeah, I know.
- 16:16And then I don't take it until I'm, like, dying and someone
- 16:19offers it to me. And this, I think he just got
- 16:24annoyed enough at someone for doing this for this long.
- 16:27Like, I don't know what it is about like pain meds that you're
- 16:30like, Nah, I can go longer. I can.
- 16:32I don't need pain meds yet. I'm good.
- 16:35I'll try. I'll try something else, maybe
- 16:37that will work instead of the actual medicine.
- 16:41So reading not just made me chuckle or like hearing it and
- 16:44then reading it made me chuckle 'cause it was just funny.
- 16:48And then but, but was it also like, OK is did somebody dare
- 16:53you to figure out how to put acetaminophen as a lyric and use
- 16:58it in a song? I don't know, but he nailed it.
- 17:02Yeah, I mean, I, I'd, I'd love to say, OK, how many songs in
- 17:07the history of the world and who knows how many there are, how
- 17:11many of them have the weird acetaminophen as a weird There,
- 17:14There's there can't be that many.
- 17:16There can't be. Oh, I'm, I'm sure not, but I
- 17:20appreciate it. Yeah, I also have to say.
- 17:23And not just once, but like several times.
- 17:27It's just like you said, it just fits it.
- 17:29Just like hey, did he just say OCM elephant?
- 17:33And it's not a bad song either. No, it's got a little, again,
- 17:38one of those things that that we'll I'll talk about in a bit
- 17:42that makes this album potentially why people consider
- 17:46it so great is the song's got a little punk feel to it, as do a
- 17:50couple others. So again, they're able to put
- 17:55that in, which again is is impressive.
- 18:00I also. I, I, I, I didn't want to.
- 18:02I don't want to hijack your story if you weren't done with
- 18:04it as well. So listening to this album and
- 18:09reading a little bit more about them, I finally got to
- 18:12understand probably one of the best jokes that I did not
- 18:16understand previously on a show that I watch.
- 18:20So I watch a British game show called Taskmaster and I love it
- 18:26and it's essentially premise is not important, you can look it
- 18:29up if you want, very funny, I highly recommend it.
- 18:31But essentially this comedian gets in charge like the king of
- 18:35it all, gives the other taskmaster, like the people who
- 18:39are all also comedians, different ridiculous tasks to
- 18:43do. And they have to do it and
- 18:45compete on who does it best, right?
- 18:47And one of the task was like a team task and they had to
- 18:52interview this person and then write a song for them all within
- 18:5530 minutes and then perform it. And so obviously goofy songs,
- 19:00whatever. I never caught on until I read
- 19:04more about these people that one of the comedians, I think his
- 19:07name is Nish Kumar, go look this up, says he's Indian.
- 19:12His the other person there is white.
- 19:15It's a duo and and he says, hi, we are the diverse stripes.
- 19:21I'm Nish Kumar. This is my partner, husband
- 19:25slash brother don't ask questions and then sings the
- 19:29song. I never got that joke until I
- 19:33was reading about The White Stripes, how he was like, they
- 19:40just didn't want to deal with the drama of it being a
- 19:43relationship. So they're like, Nah, we're
- 19:45siblings. That's so funny, first of all.
- 19:48Second of all, that joke is so funny.
- 19:51And I never caught on until I was reading that.
- 19:55I was like this all makes sense now.
- 19:57And so if you go into it with somebody telling you, especially
- 20:00let's go back to our least favorite song of it's true that
- 20:04we love one another. And put that context into that
- 20:08song, especially if somebody comes into it saying, oh, I
- 20:11thought they were married. Why?
- 20:14Why is his wife saying, no, I hate him?
- 20:19Like here's another part like so it just adds into the whole
- 20:25shtick of what they what they did.
- 20:29Yeah, which they were. They're an anomaly to me 'cause
- 20:32like before, before their height of fame, they were just like,
- 20:36Nah, we're brother, sister, like to avoid any of the drama.
- 20:39Then it was found out that they were married at like the height
- 20:42of their fame, but at that point they'd already divorced.
- 20:45People just didn't catch on to that one until a little bit
- 20:47later. So they just now discovered that
- 20:50they're married. And then like you said in this
- 20:52song, he's like, Nah, She's like, Nah, I hate him.
- 20:55Another girl is saying that they love each other like this whole
- 20:57thing. And they're like, huh?
- 20:59And then they maintained being a duo together for years after
- 21:03being yes. And I can't remember and and you
- 21:06may you may know the timeline when they were recording this,
- 21:11Had they already gotten divorced?
- 21:13Yeah. Or or was it right after this?
- 21:16Or no, I think it was. Before or in they were.
- 21:18They were in the process, yeah. I can't remember the timeline
- 21:21exactly. But.
- 21:24Like they performed, they performed.
- 21:25And stayed together for years after being divorced, so it must
- 21:29have been amicable. Yeah, but the things they did
- 21:34for the music. Yeah, I guess, but.
- 21:37The you know, but so couple of things that I found interesting.
- 21:44You know, Elephant is The White Stripes fourth album.
- 21:49So a little relating it back to Memphis specifically because
- 21:55that's where I am. But also Tennessee, their third
- 21:58album is what really gained them their first commercial access.
- 22:01And it was recorded in 2001 in Memphis.
- 22:07And they're, yeah, they're the fourth album was over in in
- 22:11London. And then their fifth album was
- 22:15actually mixed at Ardent Studios in Memphis.
- 22:18So they came back to Memphis. And then their sixth album and
- 22:22their final album was actually recorded and mixed at Blackbird
- 22:26Studios in Nashville. So three of their six albums
- 22:30have Tennessee connections, two of which are Memphis
- 22:33connections, which I found interesting.
- 22:37Yeah, that is, that is really cool.
- 22:39And, and I'll see, I'm sure you probably came across this as
- 22:42well, where the liner notes mentioned this album is
- 22:45dedicated to and it's for and about the death of the
- 22:50Sweetheart. So if you didn't roll across
- 22:52that, did you pick any of that up?
- 22:54The death of the sweetheart and the lyrics, Thinking about and
- 22:59looking back at it. The death of That's a really
- 23:03funny way to word it. Yeah, it's like he he mentioned
- 23:06that he wanted people to think about how they relate to one
- 23:09another. So when he puts it in that way,
- 23:11I was like, OK, I can definitely hear that in some of the lyrics
- 23:17that that he wrote. Yeah, I think most all of the
- 23:19lyrics have some sort of reference of like this dichotomy
- 23:24or like this relationship between people.
- 23:28I mean, like even 7 nation Army is about fighting and stuff like
- 23:33that. Not actually, but you know what
- 23:35I mean. Yeah.
- 23:36And there's no home for you here.
- 23:37You've got her in your pocket, ball and biscuit.
- 23:40The hardest button to button was the one that made me think of
- 23:42the loss of the sweetheart. Yeah, well, that one's all
- 23:46about. Good song too.
- 23:47Yeah, but that one's all about growing up.
- 23:53Not really, but has stuff about growing up and like how a family
- 24:00relates to one another. So yeah, yeah, interesting.
- 24:03So again, if. Keeping track, the album itself
- 24:08nominated for album of the year at the 2004 Grammys and actually
- 24:14won best Alternative music album.
- 24:17And then that same year 7 Nation Army won Best Rock Song.
- 24:22Yeah, I mean. So won. 2 great two Grammys wins
- 24:27associated with this. With this album, you can't go to
- 24:29a. Sports game, really.
- 24:31And not hear the opening riff of Seven Nation Army like it it's
- 24:35everywhere. As someone who goes to Tennessee
- 24:37like it's it may not be a main song, but we hear it.
- 24:42So it's one of the first things people learn on like one of the
- 24:47brass instruments too. Yeah.
- 24:50I don't know why I know that so. You know if.
- 24:54You, if you, if you listen to it and that opening riff, you know,
- 24:58one of the things that that again, this is this is going to
- 25:03be me saying I got it completely wrong, but also realizing, yeah,
- 25:08I I don't, yeah, I took some piano lessons way, way, way,
- 25:15way, way long ago. So it's not that I don't know
- 25:17anything about music, but the opening riff is not on a bass
- 25:22guitar. It's so low.
- 25:24It sounds like it's a bass guitar.
- 25:26It's actually his guitar and he he's talked about how he's
- 25:32pedaled it down or turned it down an octave, you know.
- 25:37So it's like, oh, that's really neat.
- 25:39But fascinating. Just the things throughout this
- 25:43album, if, if you're a guitar fan, the things that Jack White
- 25:49did on the guitar on this album is worth listening through the
- 25:54album to hear. Yeah.
- 25:56It's phenomenal. Yeah, he's crazy.
- 26:00So. What what makes this album
- 26:03again, kind of been talking about that, but for me, I would
- 26:07I would almost say like, Hey, this album probably and and it
- 26:12was on its way, but this album probably established Jack White
- 26:18as one of the great guitarists of all time.
- 26:23The things that he did on that one and since then has continued
- 26:27to do with some of the other White Stripes albums and even
- 26:31some of the other group albums that he's that he's released
- 26:34things with and even some of his solo stuff now he's just an
- 26:38amazing guitarist, you know. And, and then even on this
- 26:43particular album, though, the way that they limited themselves
- 26:47in the creative approach and they're so they're trying to
- 26:50scale back, but yet produce this big robust sound.
- 26:56And so the the one of you know, for example, they the studio in
- 27:01London that they recorded at only had pre 1963 equipment is
- 27:07what I read. So to do some of this stuff with
- 27:10with those, I mean just crazy. And again, drums, guitar and
- 27:15vocals because it's just two of them and they produced a whole
- 27:21lot of sounds and incorporated a whole lot of different genres.
- 27:25You know, mentioned the punk like Black Math is the second
- 27:30song that had a little punk to it, Blues in there, pops and
- 27:34some, you know, some semblance of folk music, But you know,
- 27:42it's it's just crazy everything that they did on this and from
- 27:48what I've gathered, like that's what makes it and that's why
- 27:51people continue to come back to this is this is a great, great
- 27:54album. It any other songs from you?
- 27:56No. No.
- 27:59What would I rate? It So what what?
- 28:01What would you think? I would write this one.
- 28:05Yeah, so. This one's right up my alley, so
- 28:09it I know it is, but I. Know you're 10?
- 28:15Yes, yeah, my hey, that's AI just dawned on me.
- 28:19What? I'll.
- 28:23I'll, I'll have multiple 10s, you know, but but again, for,
- 28:28for me, I guess A10 for me is where I don't skip a song.
- 28:34Yeah, that's what I that's going to be.
- 28:35That's going to be. My personal, you know thing, but
- 28:40you know, this one I would skip a couple, but my personal rating
- 28:44is a nine. Like I love this album and it
- 28:47was way up there. There's only a couple like that
- 28:50last one that I would skip, and if I'm right next to it, I would
- 28:55skip in the cold, cold night. But again, I really like this.
- 28:59It's just that driving distortion guitar that, you
- 29:07know, truth be told, reminded me a lot of the grunginess of music
- 29:12from really a decade before this album.
- 29:16And so I'm personally A9 objectively an 8.5 for some of
- 29:23the reasons that already talked about.
- 29:26So what about you, I? Had those flipped, funnily
- 29:33enough. So I had the objective rating as
- 29:36a nine and the personal rating is an 8.5.
- 29:39I like how it sounds to you. I'm not if you haven't picked up
- 29:44on it. I'm not as into.
- 29:46I love grunge and I love that because you've introduced me to
- 29:49it. But the driving distortion and
- 29:52everything is not my everyday sound.
- 29:55I'm much more like we talked about last week, Arcade Fire and
- 29:59the the all of those songs were a lot more my alley.
- 30:03They were a bit softer. They were softer is maybe not
- 30:06the right word, but you know, not as like grunge driving this
- 30:11this driving sound. But it was really good.
- 30:15I'm not going to deny that. And I still really enjoy it.
- 30:17It's just not going to be like, I listen to it all the time.
- 30:21But when I do listen, like there are definitely songs in my life
- 30:23playlist. I would definitely play this
- 30:25album again. And I definitely enjoyed it.
- 30:27So that's why it's still so high.
- 30:29But it's it's not going to be as high for me just because it's
- 30:33not always what I'm going to be listening to.
- 30:36But I'll listen to it more than the Bee Gees anyway.
- 30:42But yeah, I mean, my objective rating part of it comes from I
- 30:46knew the opening riff before I even knew White Stripes existed.
- 30:50You know, like. Like.
- 30:55Well, from like sports and from you and from like people
- 30:58learning how to play guitar, like I'll be a bass guitar
- 31:02'cause that they can play it on a bass guitar.
- 31:04Like it's just such a noticeable and memorable riff that it's
- 31:10hard to say like the album didn't have an impact.
- 31:14And like, albeit there are some songs that are worth a skip or
- 31:20not, you know, like that's my opinion, but they really
- 31:27branched out artistically and I think that's what they wanted to
- 31:29do. Obviously that's what everyone
- 31:32wants to do when they make an album.
- 31:33So that might have been a really dumb statement, but like, I
- 31:38don't know. It's, it's just there is a
- 31:41reason. So that's always my thing.
- 31:44There's a reason and I know the reason and I can see the reason
- 31:47even if I can't verbalize it right now because all my stuff.
- 31:51Yeah. And then and then reading.
- 31:53You know, a lot of times when we do read like we're reading what
- 31:57experts of the music industry are saying about it.
- 32:00And I did see a lot of people where you're talking about like
- 32:02branching out. A lot of people mentioned for
- 32:06this one that, and I'll play on that branching out.
- 32:10They branched out by from what I've gathered, scaling back to
- 32:14where, But yet you don't, you don't hear that when you listen
- 32:19to it. Like they didn't scale back at
- 32:21all. Like it's like, and even
- 32:23sometimes like it's it's loud, it's fast.
- 32:25Like what are you talking about scaling back?
- 32:27And you know, for a, for a musician, I guess to come back
- 32:32to say, OK, we're going to have two people and we're going to
- 32:34focus on you play the drums. I might have played the guitar.
- 32:39And we're going to make this like that's, that is, in a
- 32:44sense, branching out to do something that a lot of
- 32:48musicians aren't going to do or weren't doing with the sound
- 32:53that they were producing. Put it that way.
- 32:55Yeah, that's a. That's a.
- 32:56Really neat thing to see happening every once in a while
- 32:58now because especially we have so many more instruments now.
- 33:02Like there's one instrument, I can't remember what it's called,
- 33:06but it plays based on the amount of light in the room.
- 33:09It'll play a pitch. And so no, it is called like
- 33:14like it's called like the thingamabob or something like
- 33:16that. But you like put it in a room
- 33:19that you can dim the lights and you play it by dimming the
- 33:21lights back and forth and it'll just play a note or a pitch and
- 33:26stuff like that. And like, it can create this
- 33:28beautiful sound or like this whole thing, but it reminds me
- 33:32of like Kurt Cobain where he was like, I don't, I don't need to
- 33:35play or learn how to play more than these three chords.
- 33:37And like Dave Grohl, I think talked about how he wanted to
- 33:40learn how to play all these instruments.
- 33:41And Kurt Cobain was like, no, I don't want you to learn that.
- 33:43You just need to play drums. Like you just need to play these
- 33:46drums. Like Kurt Cobain did not believe
- 33:48in learning new instruments. Like he he was like, no, I just
- 33:52want the music that I need. I don't need the fancy stuff.
- 33:55And there are musicians today. I think 1 is on.
- 34:01The tip of my tongue. It's a pretty popular like folk
- 34:03band. It's not The Lumineers, but it's
- 34:05one of them. But they they also have talked
- 34:07about like, all right, what can we produce with just the
- 34:10instruments that we have and not all this fancy stuff that's
- 34:13bogging down everything. Like they have their place, but
- 34:17like, let's also remember the instruments have their place
- 34:20like normal basic issues. And so I think that's really and
- 34:24a lot of. Times you you, you may, you may
- 34:26find some truth to this in and super creatives that that I've
- 34:31interacted with. Oftentimes they say I can, I can
- 34:35almost be my most creative when I have a lot of restrictions put
- 34:40on me because it's, it's, and it's, and it's so weird for, for
- 34:45people, you know, I, I can be creative, but I also know that
- 34:48there are people that are way more creative than me.
- 34:51And so sometimes it's weird to hear people say that it's like,
- 34:55but yet this, this album is an example of that where we're,
- 34:59we're going to limit our stuff on, we're going to limit
- 35:01ourselves on the equipment that we use, the instruments we use,
- 35:04and we're just going to go in and hammer something out.
- 35:08And it, you know, and out of that came quite possibly one of
- 35:15the most iconic riffs in, you know, the beginning of seven
- 35:19nation army. So it's just it's crazy.
- 35:22Excellent job to the brother, sister duo, brother, sister,
- 35:27husband, wife duo of the wife strife.
- 35:31So any anything else to add before we get to our next bit of
- 35:37our next album? I.
- 35:40Don't think so. No.
- 35:41OK. So next album, but before we do
- 35:45that, like I think we're going to do something new.
- 35:48OK. I don't know if you would have
- 35:49you. Mentioned that right now.
- 35:51Yeah, go ahead. OK, so we practiced this.
- 35:55Beforehand, yeah, but we. Also said we'd get it wrong.
- 35:58So no, we didn't. So this is not entirely my idea.
- 36:06I have to credit our #1 fan shout out Kate Horn.
- 36:10I'm not going to tell her I put that in there.
- 36:12I'm going to see if she actually listens to the episodes, see if
- 36:14she texts me first. No, I'm not, but she's one of my
- 36:19best friends and every week she sends me a song of the week, one
- 36:25that she's just currently obsessed with, that's on repeat.
- 36:29And I feel like I know her a lot better after each one.
- 36:31Even if it's sometimes the worst song I've ever listened to, it's
- 36:36just a good way to like get to know someone and what they
- 36:39listen to and what they like. So I thought that would be fun
- 36:42for you all because we give all these personal ratings and you
- 36:46have no idea what our personal music taste is.
- 36:49We give you hints, but I think every once in a while it's fun
- 36:52to see what we're learning more each week.
- 36:55Yeah. To learn more about like kind of
- 36:58where some of our personal takes come from.
- 37:00So I'll share her most recent song of the week that I got this
- 37:03morning. It was Nelly by Doctor Dog,
- 37:08which is also one of my personal favorites.
- 37:11It's a really good song. It's just a really sweet song.
- 37:14I don't know what else to say but my personal song of the
- 37:20week. If anyone has Airbuds, you can
- 37:24follow me there. But I I think Airbuds keeps
- 37:27telling me that I played it like 10 times in the last three days.
- 37:31I listen to it all the time. I don't know what.
- 37:33It's my favorite thing when a song does this, but it's called
- 37:36Light Me Up by Nikki Orr. He's the same dude who wrote the
- 37:41song Sunroof. You know that song.
- 37:45There's something so addicting about this song.
- 37:48I love it. So give that a listen along with
- 37:52the album for next week, unless you've had a song.
- 37:57But I think you mentioned that yours was just though.
- 38:00I actually. Do have a song.
- 38:03And so I was I was I was told of this maybe 3 hours before we
- 38:08recorded Hey, let's what's a song?
- 38:12And, and ironically, and I'll go back to what we're talking on
- 38:16this album, loud, soft, loud. So I was like, OK, that that's
- 38:20Nirvana, that's Pixies. So I went back and listened to
- 38:23the Pixies. So, and if you you may not know
- 38:28this one, you know from them, but you know, that's that's
- 38:35where I went. You would be shocked to hear me
- 38:37say like, yes, I really started listening song again.
- 38:40Again, here comes your man. It is not hard, it is easy.
- 38:46It is just a fun little pop song, which I don't get a lot of
- 38:52those, but yeah, really have listened to that song several
- 38:56times over the past week or so. Interesting.
- 38:59Here, Here Comes Your Man by the Pixies.
- 39:04There you go, I'm. Learning more about you now too.
- 39:09Well give those songs a listen along with the album of the
- 39:13week. Next album that I'm really
- 39:17excited for, it's Disintegration by the Cure, so give that a
- 39:29listen, let us know what you think and also let us know if
- 39:32you have any songs of the week so that we can give this a
- 39:35listen 'cause we like listening to new music too, that's why
- 39:39we're doing this. We keep forgetting the.
- 39:43Dimension but there are out there so we got Barber cuts pod
- 39:47on Instagram X Facebook join us there again talk to us in the
- 39:55comments over at Spotify as well like Kate did and.
- 40:02Wait if if she doesn't. Listen and never talks about it.
- 40:05She's going to get in so much trouble so.
- 40:09So until next. Time I'm Todd and I'm Riley and.
- 40:13This has been another episode of Barbara Couples.