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398: You Don't Have to Take Our Word For It · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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Track Cuss the Galaxy's Most Unpredictable Star Trek Podcast. Hello, and I'm one
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of your hosts. Dan Lombardo with me as always, Daniel Reyes with me
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when he feels like it. That's right, Uh Scott. Uh, what's
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the other guy's name? Strong? Something some Yeah, strangely miss strong a
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strong face? Yeah, face Facebook. I don't know what is Davis?
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Where is? He's on a cruise or something tonight. You know he had
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a he had a rough night of partying, is what I understand. Oh
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yeah, all right, he's just messages. As soon as I get over
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the hiccups, i'll be I'll be on. Oh okay, he's gonna grace
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us with his uh, with his presence. I guess the cruise the cruise
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ship he's on has that like what's that? What's that elon musk like Skylink
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or something? It must oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I
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was thinking the hiccups for a negotiating tactic for a bigger contract. Yeah yeah,
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well, you know, right, exactly exactly right. You know he
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needs he needs to learn that. Uh, you know, I make I
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make the big box. That's right, you make you make a little less
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than I do exactly and what's left over? You know, you can ask
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about it. But it's great. How you doing, man? All right,
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yeah, I'm okay. Dressed up after the convention and all that craziness.
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Yeah, yeah, it was a long weekend. I mean, it
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was a good weekend. It was it was fun. But yeah, yeah,
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I've got some pictures that we can share with the people. Oh cool.
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To be fair, I took these from Devall's Facebook page and in bronze
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because we didn't really take much, I know, we were so yeah,
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we're new at this after five six years. Yeah, all those people we
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interviewed, that's right, we got microphones, interviewed, talk to a million
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people. Yeah, talk to a million people. Friends. Yeah yeah,
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there's us with at our booth, with our side mm hmm yeah. And
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then uh there we are all together with his girlfriend as well. You guys
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needed a moment apparently, yeah. Yeah, well it was supposed to look
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like the joke I was making here is, oh, let's make it look
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like a prom photo, and it just that's right. It looks my hands
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did a moment alone. My hands would have needed to be a little lower.
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And you know, I like the guy, but I don't know him
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that well, right, you know, before before I do that, you
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know, maybe next year, maybe next year, next year, that's right.
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And then we all went out to uh was David Busters Dave Busters.
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Yeah, so there's there's Bronson and his family and us and deals and yeah,
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so it's pretty great. It was pretty great time. I had a
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good time. I had a good time. You had the uh I didn't
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get to do it, but you got the chop cheese. That's right,
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what I did. What's what's the what's the verdict on the chop cheese?
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I mean I saw that I did make my own, so you must have
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you must have felt like that was a worthwhile endeavor. I mean I I
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liked it home. Yeah, let me let me put up the picture.
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I went to my Facebook page to get it. So the top image is
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the actual chop cheese. The bottom one is my attempt at home. You
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know what, man, it is a phenomenal sandwich. I loved it.
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I absolutely loved it. I did talk to the to the cooks, and
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I asked them, you know, kind of like, how could I replicate
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this because I live in Idaho and there's no way I can just come back
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here again m hm. And they told me what the trick was, that
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I needed to get something called a dobo sauce or and so I bought some
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because you can get that in Idaho. Yeah, were you familiar with Were
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you familiar with? I had heard of it before, yeah, yeah,
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all right, And so so I bought some and and I made my chop
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cheese and honestly, I would say my home version is about ninety five percent
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accurate. Okay, I used different bread, yeah obviously, yeah, but
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yeah it was it was really good. So I've never had a dobo seasoning.
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But the I remember the commercials from the nineteen eighties. You know,
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I don't know if you remember it, but you know, this is great.
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Oh this is great? What you know? What is this? And
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Mom's like all I did was a dobo the chicken and yeah, she's just
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throwing a bunch of this stuff on there. So never had it. Yeah,
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but you know, I remember thinking, wow, those those white people
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are really excited about that. I should probably I should probably try that.
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Sometimes. Well they sell it, yeah, what's that They sell it at
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the Hispanic grocery store here. Yeah. Yeah, so that's where I got
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it. So it's it's beef a dobo's. Yeah, that sort of cheese,
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you know, I mean at at at the at the bodega I went
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to, they had any kind you pretty much wanted, but I put cheddar
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on mine. Okay, you know, it's just shredded cheese, and then
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I had peppers and onions chopped up iced and then just all you know,
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they grilled it on a flat top. So if you have a flattop at
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home, great, you're you're already there. They toasted the buttons on the
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flat top as well a little bit of shredded lettuce and onions and put it
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all together and it's it's really tasty. Yeah, okay, all right,
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cool, Yeah, I highly recommend congratulations on flying straight across the country for
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a sandwich. That's right, a five hour flight just for a sandwich.
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Absolutely. Which So speaking of chopped cheese, that that kind of reminds us,
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you know, we should bring up. We recently launched our new merch
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store in partnership with Chopped Teas, who we found out through Dicky Bird.
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That's that's why he named his show is Shop Shop. This was the chop
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Cheese. So yeah, these are our new our new merch. You know,
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if you go to trek cash dot com and click on the store,
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it'll bring you here. But yeah, I like that. That's that's that's
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tight. Yeah, yeah, that that seems to be the popular one.
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It's all high quality stuff. The cool thing is these are the prices that
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you pay, so taxes has been figured in in in a lot of the
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uh, North American and European countries. It's for shipping. So yeah,
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it's pretty great. And and uh, from what I understand, the they
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ship almost directly from those countries, so like the turnaround time has been really
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quick. So if you're you're you're in Europe or Australia or you know,
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North America, it's pretty quick timing to get your stuff. So now what
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if you're always on a cruise, where do you have your your teas shipped?
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I believe the drone sends it out at that point, yeah, and
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drops it off and just you know, drop it. Yeah all right,
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yeah, we'll have to find out, you know, just in case you're
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always on a cruise and not able to participate in other things, you might
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need to know how to get your trek cast march. That's right, that's
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right, yeah, so pissed. Oh here he comes, here he goes,
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it's loaded up. Oh oh, he's got stern dad face. He's
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got a stern dad face. There he is. Good morning, Hey,
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good morning man. How are the hiccups? Uh, hopefully they're gone.
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Okay, okay, yeah, they say you should come above deck to get
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rid of those. Oh okay, okay, gotcha, got ya? Yeah,
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yeah, I can only imagine the crappy guys been talking. Yeah,
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I have no idea what you're talking about. Uh so I noticed I noticed
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the glasses. Yeah, a lot more, Yeah, lately, and it's
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I'm older thinking. Yeah, but it's like you're moving from you're moving from
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riker to director. You know when you see Freaks now you know director Jonathan
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Frakes, He Jonathan Frakes. I thought that the rady's progressing by like the
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time that Strange the Worlds comes out, we have seeing I dog wow.
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Wow. Yeah that's right. Oh, so are we done? And we
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we are? We are never Well, it's been a good show, everybody.
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We'll see you guys next week. Uh. I just realized I didn't
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turn the lights side of my office. Yeah, right back, Okay,
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Well, I don't think he realized when he signed up for this position that
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you know, I used to bust Chad's balls pretty heavily for sure. Each
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episode he slides out, This guy slides it. That's how it goes,
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all right, Yeah, oh, what's the shirt today? So we got
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from J. J. Abrams the original Star Trek movie. Okay, so
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this was a gift from somebody I don't remember who give you. It's hard
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to remember them. So, so what you've been up to. We haven't
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talked to you in a little while, I know it. Yeah, yesterday
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we did my uh, my son's graduation party. Uh So he graduated high
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school and moving on to college in the fall. So that was a lot
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of hard work and mostly by my wife. And yeah, it was a
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good time. Can't you just compete in the state too, Yeah, yep,
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yep. Uh. He did track and he's gonna go on the track
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in college. So it's been a bit a few weeks for him. Very
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very much, so very much so right on. Yeah, we got the
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uh our cruise coming up week after net that's right, the three hour cruise,
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right, just like the uh just like yill three our cruise. Yeah,
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why is he laughing. What do you look at yet? He has
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crap talking? Ten minutes before you came on the show, about eight and
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a half of it was you know, yeah, I bet, I bet.
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I can't wait to listen to it. It's fun. Anyways. So
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did we watch the uh lit Our Burden documentary? I did, No,
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I didn't see it. I didn't see it. Hey, am I looking
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at my name? Did I frame that? Just right? That's right?
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Our bird? Oh wow, I gotta look through the right lens. I
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got bifocals on. So okay, boy man, So what kind of scene?
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Iye, dog? Are you don't want then? Yeah? Yeah?
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Oh no, no, no, no, no, keep keep keep crap
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talking on me. Okay, that's it. Never we sprinkled that throughout a
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little little all right. So our first news story comes first today from the
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New York Post, and I don't know if you guys have seen. We
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took a week off. So things have have developed in the ongoing saga of
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who's going to buy Paramount and the latest the latest turn has been uh Paramount
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has completely backed away from Skydance's proposals and negotiations. So we're back to square
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one, baby, yeah, Sony is still in there, but basically a
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lot of people are left scratching their heads, and now all the opinion pieces
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are starting to come out, going what the hell is going on with paramount?
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Does Shery Redstone even know what she's doing at this point? And it's
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fun, it's fun. Yeah. What's really funny is they have pointed out
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that in this article, Sherry Redstone inherited the company, and sky Dance is
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a company that is basically funded by another billionaire's sun. So it's two children
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of billionaires who never had to build their own companies are now kind of like
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fighting each other to figure out who's gonna who's gonna take over barramund I want
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to buy CBS? No, I want to buy CBS. Yes, yeah,
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it's kind of that, yeah yeah. So meanwhile their parents are like,
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we have CBS at home, right, right, literally literally we have
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CBS at home. Yeah, so that's neat, but yeah, Sony's still
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at it. But this article specifically says like, after Sony and Skydance,
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no one else has left. Nobody wants this thing, So what are you
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gonna do? Lady? At this At this point, I'm kind of hoping
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they chop it up. Yeah, yeah, that may happen. Man,
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that may happen because in the big in the big scheme of things, you
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know, Paramount isn't Star Trek, right, and people are when these people
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are looking to buy Paramount, Star Trek is not better. Excuse me,
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Star Trek is not the top of their mind. So if they split it
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up and they sell it off separately, that entity that buys it, it
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is the top of their mind because they're specifically buying that. So at this
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point, I think that's a really good point. Yeah, I think that
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that's what would be best for us. I guess we'll see so that the
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saga continues, but look out for a lot of these opinion pieces to come
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out in the next few few weeks because nobody knows where this train is going.
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So yeah, speaking of trains, and we don't know where they're going.
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Our next news story comes to us from trekmovie dot com, and we
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are getting a little bit of teasing about what is up with the next season
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of Strange New worlds Anson Mount says that season three will take bigger swings than
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a musical episode. So does that mean that's a bold statement? That is
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a bold statement? Well, remember they they said that last time when season
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two was being shot, they said, we're taking a lot of big swings,
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and it was vastly different than season one. So does that mean season
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three will be different from what we've seen before? Probably? Big swings tends
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to translate into I think the internet is going to be mad at us said
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a few things. That seems to be the new translation. Yeah, so
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what they're trying? Uh, Personally, I'm hoping for strange new worlds,
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in strange new worlds, in moregs. You know, let's get back to
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exploring. But you know that'd be good. Yeah, what are you guys
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thinking? You know, season one was a nine out of ten, season
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two was eight out of ten, and I just don't want them to go
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in that direction. I don't want it to get worse, right, right,
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So you know, I guess we'll see. I mean, if the
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company doesn't know where it's going, how can we expect the shots set?
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Yeah? Yeah, well, and that's that's a good point. You know
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what what with the company, the company's future, you know unknown, how
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are these studios reacting to it? You know when they're producing content, right
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because you don't know, like who's you going, who's going to be your
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boss in two years right by the time this comes out? So yeah,
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it's rough, but yeah, I guess we'll see sometime next year. They
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just basically finished shooting everything. So, speaking of shooting, our next news
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story comes to us from TV insider dot com and it is now official.
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We have my first lead Academy and it's Paul Giamoni and do not give him
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more low. I've seen so many Sideways funs and jokes, you know.
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Okay, I'm glad you brought that up. Yeah, Sideways is a movie
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that It's one of two movies in my entire life I ever walked out of
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the theater because I was bored. Oh wow, okay. The other one
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was Batman Forever okay, okay. I hated Sideways, okay, and it
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left a bad taste in my mouth for Paul Giamatti. Mm hm. So
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you know we'll see. You didn't like him as the Rhino, Yeah he
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was. Uh no, I didn't. I haven't liked him anything he's been
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in since. Oh no, no. So one of two movies that I
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walked out of, okay was Batman and Robin Oh wow. You know,
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I'm not saying Batman Forever was was a good movie. But yeah, when
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you put it side by side with Batman and Robin, they're the same movie.
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It's It's Citizen Kane. Yeah right, yeah, yeah. So we
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don't know much about his new character. We're told that he's going to be
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the villain, then he'll be an admiral. It's star check pretty much apparently
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has some sort of connection to the to the Academy. So I don't I
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don't know, man, I guess we'll see what they have shaped up.
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But I can't imagine being mad at a school, like, especially in that
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time period, like just go somewhere else. Yeah whatever, I don't know.
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Yeah, I guess we'll see. So and then are are you?
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Are you? Are you? Are you excited about this show? Me?
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Yeah? Uh, well either of you, both of them? Yeah,
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no, No, I'm not excited. I'm curious. And I will only
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say that because I I know Tawny Newsome is very much a fan, and
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she's in that writer's room, and I'm very curious to see what she helps
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come up with. But I'm wondering how much of her voice will be in
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the show, or if it'll be just they're gonna do what they want to
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do, and she eventually just you know, just follows them. Yeah,
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she has some chops, right, yeah, and she and she seems to
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know things right like yes, yeah, so she's a Star Trek fan.
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She's funny. From what I understand, they do a lot of improv on
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lower decks and she's she's a big part of that. So yeah, well
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we will see, I guess, but I'm not. I wonder what direction
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they're taking that show. Then, I'm like, if they if they hired
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her, are they taking it in a I don't know me a modern family
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direction. Yeah, that's that. That would be interesting to know that.
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That was actually, uh one of our big questions this week was what what
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kind of inspiration do you want for Academy? And I had put up a
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few options, like, you know, the current school type shows are like
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a Euphoria. Oh here it is, I'll bring it up. You know.
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I had a few different options up for people, so like Euphoria is
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the big one right now, that's the big teen show. Then I had
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like a House or Saved by the Bell or de Grassi, like those are
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kind of figure kind of all different types of shows. And you know,
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get what people thought. A few people say they wanted something more like Boy
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Meets World. I guess something more like a dramatic comedy. That's the direction
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that I think they're gonna go in. Yeah, I could see that.
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I think Dan put or no Scott but sky high. So uh. I
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had a few people put in the Wonder Years, you know, start singing,
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Dan, Yeah, what would you do if I sang out of tune?
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We'll just stand up and walk out on me. I mean yeah,
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I thinking if they did something more along the lines of like Scrubs, like
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that kind of dramatic comedy, they might have something. But I'm I don't
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know. I don't know, man, Like I'm I'm not that excited about
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you know, a teen star trek show. Yeah, oh yeah. We
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had the phone going, oh yeah, sorry, this was my wake up
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reminder from my phone to let me know that I'm about to do treck cast
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great when when we aired at eleven o'clock, that's time. Yeah, it
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sounds like it's a little bit till till people realize the new time. But
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cast now at a new time, that's right, that's right. So yeah,
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I I am not excited okay about this show. Yeah, And I've
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been devoting a lot of time to thinking to myself, when when do you
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get off the boat? You know, if if you don't like what's happening,
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at what point do you say? Why am I? Why am I
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watching this? Right? And you know, there's a part of me that's
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like, you gotta support the franchise. You got to support the franchise.
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But then there's another part of me that's like, yeah, but if you
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keep supporting it when they produce garbage, you're going to get more garbage,
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right, And you know, like like I'm at the point right now.
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Star Wars Acolyte is three episodes in. Yeah, first two episodes were okay,
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they were not they were not good. They were okay. That third
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episode was straight up trash. It's absolute trash. You know, they said
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six months ago, we're not gonna do this kind of stuff anymore. We're
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going to concentrate on just telling good stories and giving people what they want,
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and they completely reversed course. And so at what point do you stop being
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curious and say, I'm not I'm not going to consume this content because this
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content is not good. I'm not going to finish this. I don't care
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how this story ends. Because here's here's the thing. If you watch it
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just to watch it, and the day that, the day after the last
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episode airs, you you say, I'm gonna cancel my subscription to Disney Plus
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until uh Mandalorian season four or whatever comes out. They expect that when when
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people cancel in the middle of a season, that sends a that sends a
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message that you know, they it's all you know, their algorithms know what.
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I've watched their algorithms. No, I've watched the original trilogy on Disney
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Plus a thousand times. I've watched the sequel trilogy one hundred or the prequel
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trilogy one hundred times, and I've watched the sequel trilogy twice. I've watched
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The Mandalorian over and over again. I watched Boba Fett two or three times.
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I watched Ahsoka twice. He canceled halfway through accolyte mm hmm. And
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I think we need to stop like just watching it for the sake of the
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franchise. So that's my that's my soapbox. I'm gonna get off. I
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guess I'm kind of I guess to tie this back to Star Trek. I'm
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kind of saying I gave Discovery five years of my life. I'm not giving
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I'm not giving Academy five years of my life. If it's garbage, you
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know it's garbage. It's garbage. I got better things. Let me give
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you an idea of let's do the big picture kind of looking thing. So
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I went on Google Trends while you were talking, and I just typed in
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Star Trek, Star Wars, and the NFL. Right, And this is
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the interest over a year, twelve months, right, And the blue line
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is Star Trek, the red line is Star Wars, the yellow line is
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the NFL. The way Google trends works, just so people know, one
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hundred is the most popular it's been in relation to where it's been before.
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Right, look at how flat Star Wars and Star Trek are in relation to
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the NFL. Now, yeah, there's a giant you know, during the
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season, right, because the NFL is like the biggest sports, right,
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and then a little bit during the Super Bowl it looks like but then or
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no, that's trades. Maybe I don't know, but look how dead it
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is. But now let's let's remove the NFL and just do Star Trek and
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Star Wars. Okay, same time period. Look how much more popular Star
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Wars is than Star Trek over a year, and look how flat Star Wars
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or Star Trek is. The the interest over a year is just not there.
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So something is going on, and it's it's sad, you know,
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so explained it for for those that are just listening. We've got a graph
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here that's that's showing Star Trek and Star Wars as far as uh uh,
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just how much on search results and search requests for Google. Okay, right,
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so this is just through Google. But Star Trek over a year or
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Star Wars over a year is far more popular than Star Trek, which that's
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kind of always been the thing, right, But but it is you know
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where Star Wars is at a sixty three, Star Trek is it at twenty
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two. You know that's not percentages of how many results, but it's just
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in relation to popularity against all other trends going, right, So basically like
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a ranking, right, like essentially Star Trek is the twenty second place or
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the higher the number, the better it is. So what you're saying is
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I need to get onto War's cast. That's right, that's right, gotcha,
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that's right, put their hosts in basements. Yeah, that's right.
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So this is a one year period. Yeah, this is just a year.
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So now, yeah, we can do a custom range, So we
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can do from six twenty two. Okay, So Daniel is is he's got
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a graph on the screen. I mean, that's that's showing the basically the
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popularity of Google searches for Star Trek and Star Wars, and he can customize
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the the range as far as time period goes what each one of them looks
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like over a two year period. And it's fairly obvious that Star Wars is
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a much more popular searched thing than Star Trek, and it has quite a
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few peaks. And yeah, it's so what are these So the blue Star
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Trek right at the beginning there? What is that peak? Is that Picard
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season three? It's gotta be okay, so can these idiots look at the
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same graph that you're looking at. I don't think that's possible, Dan,
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I you know, even they might not have access to this kind of information.
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But what I'm saying is, okay, so Star Trek is never going
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to have those numbers that Star Wars has, Right, I get I get
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it. Yeah, but look at your best numbers over the last two years.
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Yeah, and correlate that to what caused that and two more of that.
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Yeah. Yeah, huh uh what Yeah, it's it's it's an interesting
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thing. Yeah, They've got to have other metrics that they're looking at,
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because this is not good and this is like the closest thing that we get
31:29
to ratings. Really it's just overall interests. But they also look at social
31:37
media impressions, they look at sales and merchandise, which they're scaling back of
31:41
merchandise for Star Tic, right. They they just stopped selling the toys because
31:45
they weren't selling you know, it's it's roight again because they because they made
31:49
poor decisions yeah doing that. Yeah. They they put out two or three
31:56
of them at a time, and they did the same characters that everyone are
32:00
already has in the same style that everyone already has. Yeah, instead of
32:05
instead of putting out twelve characters and give us those three and nine that we
32:10
don't have that everyone's been asking for for twenty five years. Yeah, yeah,
32:16
come on, it was it was a botched launch. And then I
32:19
don't know if you saw that report that just came out this week that said
32:22
that officially, adults have taken over children for toy sails, so like we're
32:28
the ones to cater to so because kids have iPads? Yes, yeah,
32:35
yeah, all right, well that's all the news now that we're all depressed
32:39
and angry. Oh I should say Happy Father's Day to you guys. Hey,
32:46
thank you, Hey, yeah, thank you. Yeah. Well let's
32:52
let's get to our main topic. Fun will now come out, all right,
33:04
talk Yeah, Scott, Scott's got some moves there. Huh, a
33:07
little bit bobbin. You know, the dance instructor on the ship taught him
33:13
that move. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Oh man, it's new
33:22
how the cruise ship. It's just like your house. It's really great.
33:28
It's a green screen. Oh is that what it is? Yeah, you
33:30
took he took a photo of the area behind his desk and then you think
33:35
straight in that picture. Yeah. Yeah, he wants he wants it to
33:37
be authentic. Okay, ugh, got us all fold it's right. So
33:45
yeah, so we watched uh Butterfly in the Sky. It is a documentary
33:51
on reading Rainbow. It came out in twenty twenty two. It did have
33:54
a brief limited theatrical run in New York and a few other selects cities.
34:00
It was debuted at the Tredebeca Film Festival, but it is currently on Netflix
34:07
and a few other VOD services. But yeah, it it just came out,
34:15
you know, for for digital maybe a month ago. But it's the
34:20
story of Reading Rainbow. The reason we're covering it is because LeVar Burton is
34:25
such a big thing for Star Trek and he hosted Reading Rainbow, passion project
34:30
of his. It seems like, but, uh, did you guys watch
34:32
the documentary or okay, I'll watched yesterday, yep, Okay, what did
34:38
you guys think of the documentary? What was your impressions? I was very
34:44
taken by LeVar Burton's afro that's right, epic. Yeah, I liked it.
34:54
I liked I like LeVar, I always liked I've always liked LeVar are
35:01
He has a very calming voice, and I think that's and I think that's
35:06
why children respond to him on Reading Rainbow. I think it's why I responded
35:13
to him as the chief engineer of the USS Enterprise. You know, the
35:19
ship's about to blow up and he's you know, he's got that calming Sure,
35:30
needs to rejective, but it's fine. And he's a phenomenal actor.
35:34
I mean, for seven years he acted from behind a blindfold and we're still
35:40
and we could still pick up his emotions. Yeah, you know that that
35:46
thing, right, Well, I think it's more of we couldn't see his
35:52
eyes, right, how much how much emotion you project just with your eyes?
36:00
Yeah, you're blinking patterns, where you're looking, how long you're looking,
36:05
Yeah, you know how wide your eyes are open. You know,
36:12
he couldn't do any of that. He was essentially acting from behind a mask.
36:16
Yeah, and and he did phenomenal Yeah, he did. So that
36:22
just goes to show his skill as a Yeah, thesbian I thought it was
36:28
interesting in the documentary they point out that acting was not something he was like
36:32
regularly seeking out to do. It just happened, you know. No,
36:37
he was going to be a preacher. Yeah, that's right, that's right.
36:42
He was going to seminar or I think, Yeah, and he got
36:45
roots and it it took off from there. Yeah, it was interesting to
36:51
see that, you know, the behind the scenes conversations that happened. Yeah,
36:59
he he shot the pilot and then he showed up for the first season
37:02
and he had a mustache. Yeah, and you know they told him to
37:06
shave it off and he said, no, I don't want to. Yeah,
37:08
And so that season he had a mustache, and then the next season
37:12
he didn't, and the season after that he had an earring, and then
37:14
he showed up with a beard, and you know, he just he looked
37:17
different every every season. And initially they were like, you know, he's
37:22
the host of the show. He's supposed to be a constant. These kids
37:24
are not going to know. They're not going to think it's the it's the
37:28
same guy. And it became a thing where the show was on for was
37:34
it on for like sixteen years or something something like that, and you know
37:40
we all watched LeVar Burton age yeah on the show, and and I think
37:47
it was actually more genuine that way. You see the different clothing styles,
37:57
the different fashions, the different hairstyle, the different facial hair style. Great
38:05
colorful sweaters in this yes, yeah, yeah, some of them. Some
38:08
of those sweaters, I'm like, did he take that off the TG set?
38:14
Yeah? Yeah, that looks like that looks like something Jordy war to
38:19
tend forward. Yeah, And we did get a little bit of Star Trek
38:22
in the documentary. Yes, it was actually quite a bit. Yeah,
38:27
talking about his time on Star Trek and how he was also on Reading Rainbow
38:30
at the same time, and yeah, was in the dock. They thought
38:36
they were going to lose him when he had the part on Star Trek and
38:39
he stayed Yeah, yeah, because they showed that last goodbye and you can
38:47
kind of hear it in his voice that he thinks it's over and yeah,
38:52
yeah, right, yeah, it's it's pretty sad. But then they made
38:55
it work and yeah, it was obviously a past project for him, and
39:00
yeah, you know, like Dan said, he was he was very genuine
39:06
in doing that and you could just tell that that he that LeVar Burton was
39:14
in love with that program. Yeah, he really he felt a lot of
39:19
ways about it. And you know, I grew up watching it. You
39:23
know, the TVs was, you know, a thing in our house.
39:27
Yeah, so yeah, I remember pretty much everyone they had on the documentary,
39:34
all the kids that had grown up, I remember every single one of
39:36
them. Oh yeah, so it was a big part of my life grown
39:38
up. Yeah, yeah, that that was a big show for us.
39:44
I know, my brother especially really liked it and would watch it so,
39:51
but I had forgotten just how long it's been off the air, Like,
39:53
yeah, it was, you know, we said it was on for what
39:57
sixteen years? It feels like it was on for a lot longer. I
40:01
feel like there was a there was some sort of GoFundMe for reading Rainbow not
40:07
too long of them. Yeah, I think there was an attempted revival a
40:09
little while back. I'm not I'm not sure how that how that worked out.
40:15
I'm not too sure about that either. But yeah, the show has
40:21
just been this legacy for a lot of people, and so I thought it
40:25
was neat to see all the behind the scenes, Like yea, when they
40:29
first were talking about, like we're going to make a show about books,
40:31
and people were like, what would You're crazy? No? Yeah, yeah.
40:37
The publisher that they visited who was like, how's this gonna help us
40:40
sell books? Yeah? It's like, are you an idiot? Yeah,
40:45
it's a it's a thirty minute commercial for books. How are you not?
40:51
Yeah? How are you not picking this up? Yeah? Yeah, essentially,
40:57
right, which which was great to see that, you know, towards
41:00
the end of the run, publishers were just mailing them books. Yeah,
41:05
you know, promotional books. They've rooms full of books just showing up like,
41:07
hey, please, please please do a thirty minute commercial for our book.
41:12
Yeah please. Yeah. I guess like Jumanji was covered in Reading Rainbow
41:16
before it was a movie. Yeah, so that was neat. That was
41:22
really cool and just how many people had inspired Uh yeah, like you were
41:25
saying, Scott WHOOPI Goldberg was the documentary. She's also one of the producers,
41:30
So I'd never realized that, you know, he had a relationship with
41:38
mister Rogers. Yeah. I think like he was just on, like just
41:44
visiting, like guest starring, you know, not Yeah, but yeah,
41:47
I guess they were friends. So that's cool. So what's what's funny is
41:53
I did not watch a lot of Reading Rainbow okay growing up, but I
42:00
was very aware of it. My mother ran a daycare in our home,
42:05
so it was on in the background quite a bit. And I specifically remember
42:10
the episode where they visit Star Trek, which which is funny because I don't
42:21
remember a lot about mister rogers neighborhood, but I specifically remember the episode where
42:28
they visited the Incredible Hulk set. So it's just funny to me that,
42:34
you know, the two that stick in my mind were were those two.
42:38
I was nerdy at such an engage. Well, that was one of the
42:42
things they brought up on the documentary, is like their their plan of attack
42:46
too, was like to let kids experience all sorts of new things. Like
42:50
they went to a volcano as it erupted, you know. Yeah, they're
42:57
like, people are going away from it and we're like driving out the mountain,
42:59
like yeah, let's get closer. Yeah. Yeah, So yeah,
43:05
it was good. You know, it was funny. He he always spoke
43:08
to the camera. He always spoke directly to the children. And when the
43:13
producers was saying in talking to kids, they did feel like they were there,
43:17
They were with they were with him. All I went to such and
43:21
such with LeVar, Right, So except for that bat cave LeVar would I
43:30
must have missed that part. I have to admit. It was late last
43:35
night. Okay, for about for about ten minutes in the middle, Okay,
43:39
there's a whole set about. Yeah, there's a whole sequence about how
43:44
they wanted to go inside of a bat cave, like an act cave just
43:46
full of bats, and they wouldn't like, no one wanted to go in
43:52
because there's literally like the no, the the floor is covered bat and it's
44:00
like knee high, right, yeah, and so you're trudging through that.
44:06
But that's not even the worst of it is. There are like these little
44:09
like worms that are flesh eating. So like if a if a bat falls
44:15
into the guano, it's got to get back up right away or else the
44:17
worms will literally eat it to death. And so like they're showing like skeletons
44:22
of bats. So, yeah, flesh eating flesh eating ship worms. Yes,
44:28
yeah, like no, no, So they got one camera guy to
44:35
go in yeah, and uh and an audio guy and the audio guy like
44:38
left midway through it. Yeah, not banks. Yeah, no, I'm
44:44
good. Yeah, I thought it was a good documentary. If you guys
44:50
grow up with Reading Rainbow, definitely would recommend. So, yeah, Reading
44:55
Rainbow and mister Rogers Neighborhood. That's that's kind of how I grew up.
45:00
So did your kids watch that show? Those shows? Uh? No,
45:05
not so much, not so much. They know who they are. Yeah,
45:12
how about yours? Dan, did they grow up with that stuff?
45:15
No? No, my son watched Daniel Tiger's Neighborhood, which is a continu
45:22
it's a continuation of Mister Rogers neighborhood. It was the it's an animated show,
45:28
but the the Daniel Tiger character that was a puppet on Mister Rogers.
45:35
It's uh, you know, revolves around him and his family. Okay.
45:38
Yeah. Also, our kids had something that we didn't like, the Internet
45:43
and cable right right, My kids were watching the Disney Channel. Yeah they
45:47
had options. Yeah, I had TBS, ABC, NBC and uh BBS.
45:58
Yeah that was it. You know. True Fox came in there sometime.
46:00
But yeah, yeah, okay, Well I guess that's that's pretty much
46:07
it for for the main topic. So let's get to listener feedback. Listener
46:16
feedback, listener feedback. Uh so, yeah, I guess it's still early,
46:27
so we're not kidding a lot of people calling in, but uh we
46:30
We did get a piece of listener feedback from Paul Chen who did mention that
46:36
he remembered watching Reading Rainbow and he will remember watching it before watching Newton's Apple
46:42
when he was a kid. I do not remember Newton's Apple. I do
46:45
not remember Newton's Apple. Yeah, I vaguely remember it. There was there
46:52
was a program on PBS that yeah, came before or after Reading Rainbow,
46:55
so okay, and then Duval sent me an email he shot a video while
47:01
we were at the convention, and so I'm gonna be posting that on the
47:07
trek cast YouTube channel in a little bit so people can watch that. Was
47:12
there a Star Trek convention, Yeah it was, yeah, yeah, you
47:15
were on the cruise though, so yes, still am still am Captain Scott
47:21
on his cruise. Yeah yeah, so yeah it was. It was a
47:27
fun time out there, as we had said, so uh so. Yeah.
47:30
So that's basically all the listener feedback. I didn't see any other ones.
47:36
Did you guys get any any emails or anything? I did not,
47:40
let's see. No, okay, I guess I should have checked before the
47:46
show. That's okay, all right, that's cool, Like we get yeah,
47:52
well, do you guys want to bring anything else up or no,
48:00
we can just we could just end it awkwardly. It's okay, sounds good.
48:04
So next week I'm working on an interview, so we should have that
48:10
release next week. Cool. Yeah, okay, that'll be fun. So
48:15
keep an eye on our social media's and I'll let you know who I'm interviewing.
48:19
As again, what's our trek Cast schedule? For next week, I'll
48:22
be out of town, but I've got I've got good internet at my airbnbook.
48:27
So well, I was thinking I would just do that interview and release
48:30
that on Sunday next week. Oh okay, I'm shooting the interview Saturday,
48:35
and then I'll release it Sunday in place of Trek Cast, and then the
48:39
week after that we'll figure it out. So well, week after that,
48:43
I will be literally on a cruise. Yeah, we discussed this. Yes,
48:50
yes, we made friends with a PR company and at the convention,
48:54
so we're gonna try to have a little bit more interviews. So okay,
49:00
you're good. Yeah, so I can just go f myself. Oh no,
49:06
I'm also working on some crossover episodes with some other Star Trek podcasts.
49:12
Oh cool. Yeah, so that should be fun, right yeah. But
49:16
all right, Well, thanks everybody for listening, and we'll be back next
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