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How the Bears can beat the Rams and advance to the NFC Championship · Da Windy City Sports Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Wendy City podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You see that man right there Alex Shapiro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am kind of Dave's and this is presented by fan side it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost time ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been waiting for this!
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[SPEAKER_01]: Toms like this!
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bears, rams, lakefront.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sean McVay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We kind of let you get away with who wants to be as bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in the back for that, you know what, you know, Bill Belichick took off from the big fangeo formula.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, to beat the Rams, he did, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stone from us, now we shall steal back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, anyway, Barrett's versus the Los Angeles Rams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, the evening game with 530 game, I believe Alex.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's a late game, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe, Mike Thoreco and B.C.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you knew you were getting that because it's bears period but also you put a ram on there like it wasn't going to get more eyes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, you have one, you have one of the better teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You look at where Mattford's safford was a couple of years ago with the back injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you look at the fact that the contract negotiations that he had to go through one and more money kind of a chance to perhaps go to the Giants and the offseason ended up saying, look what happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to go to the Giants?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What opportunity to win a Super Bowl who won the smartest young head coaches who still isn't 40?
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[SPEAKER_01]: As long as Simon Bay has been in the NFL, he still is not 40 years old, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Raised.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Read, read them defense after the greatest defensive tackle of all time retirees.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think I can say he's the greatest and I've seen some good ones here in the NFC center when John Randall was Randall and then Warren sat left to go to the South when they split up the divisions just to name a few.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And a blip of Tommy Harris who when he was healthy was extraordinary but he wasn't
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[SPEAKER_01]: didn't have the career that the two gentlemen that I say at prior had, but Aaron Donald looking lured while for his sustainability for all those years in D.C. ridiculous, but to the present.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, Jared Burst, you know what that defense looks like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, that offense, you got two of the best receivers in NFL and Pook in the Kutua and Devont say Adams who we know here in the NSC North when he was one of the packers, best wide receiver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you have Kaeran Williams now standing young, running back and you have one of the most talented arm talents to ever reside within NFL and Matthew Stafford.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the craftiest savants.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is something to overcome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know the last game versus Carolina.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, well, look at the last game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That happens to us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That happens to anybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Matchups, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Carolina has been better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We kind of look at them as the Carolina they've been the years prior to this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were a better team this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: thousand percent and now it's time for the bears to show improved against a really good office.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This office isn't going to leave many points on the board when it comes to empty drives if you give them a chance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Alex, your opening thoughts on this playoff game is the vision of playoff game with the Los Angeles Rams coming to Chicago to face the beloved bears.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Things are leveling up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Things are leveling up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let me first say, I truly believe the bears can beat any team in the NFC.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What they've got going?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got something special.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The head coach is special.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The belief in that room is special.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The ability to adjust and adapt on defense is special, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: For all of the shortcomings that the defense has had, Dennis Allen and the players have risen to the occasion when they've needed to rise to the occasion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb Williams with the game on the line has been special.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These are requisite things to make noise in the playoff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I do think that the bears can go toe to toe with these teams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But as you go through the playoffs, round by round, obviously things level up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I want to dig a little bit deeper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we can tell you, oh, Pooka Nuculin, Devonta Adams are great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Matthew Stafford is great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Byron Young and... Like I just did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I just did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But let's dig in a little deeper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Matthew Stafford, who could be the MVP, probably will be the MVP.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably will be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 47 100 passing yards this year, led the NFL, 46 passing touchdowns this year, led the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you have from a number standpoint.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the best there was in the biz.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you also have a guy who, as you said, is a vet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What has Dennis Allen been able to do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been able to disguise coverages.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been able to bring pressure from different areas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He really ramped that up against Jordan Love and the Packers in the second half.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for some reason, the Packers just kept pushing the ball down field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that pressure, I think, affected Jordan Love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not going to affect Matt Stafford in the same way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot harder to confuse Matt Stafford who's seen everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot harder to heat up Matt Stafford than it is, to heat up Jordan Love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about Pukiniku and Devante Adams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pukiniku a 129 catches this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: lead the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's correct.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 1715, 115, 1000, 715, receiving yards this year, second in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Devante Adams, who missed the last three games of the season and did not look 100% last week, missed the last three games of the season, led to the NFL with 14 touchdowns, playing 14 games, 14 games, 14 touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Another week if he gets another
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[SPEAKER_00]: another week, a rest under his belt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He shook off the rest last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You cannot, you cannot take for granted that Devonti Adams is not going to be 100%.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bears fans know all too well, but Devonti Adams can do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the best route runners in the NFL with him and Pukina Kua outrageous.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How about four tight ends, four tight ends with 200 or more receiving yards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Four tight ends with 200 or more receiving yards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're talking about spreading the ball around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the running game, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned Kiron Williams, 4.8 yards per carry this year that was tied for 10th in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Blake, core, I'm though, 5.1 yards per carry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This year tied for fourth in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you have two in terms of yards per carry, two top 10 running backs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This offense is no joke.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the bears are going to have to come correct.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to have to clean a lot of stuff up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dennis Allen is going to have to really be in his bag with the play calling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I have one bit of good news for the bears though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One thing that I think can help.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We know about the injury to TJ Edwards last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be done for the
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[SPEAKER_00]: Demarco Jackson comes in and honestly has been a God sent for this team all year when called upon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And one thing I think that will help the Bears, and I think this really showed up when I was rewatching last week's game, it's due to as fast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The student is really, really fast, which is maybe exactly what the bears need in this moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just a really, really fast linebacker, and he triggers quickly, plays instinctually, triggers quickly, gets to the ball quickly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's gonna help their run defense, which has been kind of banged up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It can also be a bit of a detriment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It can also be a bit of a detriment because when he triggers so fast, he can kind of over pursue or misdirection plays, counter plays, you know, can beat some of that really aggressive trick ring.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that's a guy to really, really watch here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: With the huge, huge,
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[SPEAKER_00]: defensive, defensive challenge ahead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's going to be really interesting to see how Demarco Jackson put in this position out of need now does as a super speedy linebacker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Kenneth, I'm going to kick it back to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what do you do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: With this enormous challenge that the Rams pose on offense?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Try to keep their offense off the field with run position.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that one thing just going over some stats, they're like the top 15 when it comes to Russia as a loud, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that means they can't be run on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not top 10.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like hovering around 12.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They can't be run on, but you really, either there's two, well, there's one thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's time for possession.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's also be what the bears have been.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really bindi and don't breaky as far as
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[SPEAKER_01]: from 20 to 20, I let you do what you want to do, get you to that when we're getting their red zone, I stop you out stifle you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you can do that, this game is had.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you can sit there and have them kick more field goals and get, there can't be turnovers too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying like, that can't be turnovers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've met through Stafford.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you can do what you've been doing, let's just shut them down occasionally.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like you think about last week's game, the first half.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Packers Day, whatever the hell they felt like doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They just kicked open the door to the house and just rub their filthy feet all over our couches, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just nasty style in the fridge, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And didn't even wash their hands after coming from the outside and just all over German, everything up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And a half time, dinner salad was like, get the hell out of my house.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, you know, and you're gonna need that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I know it sounds simple, but this is a different team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This team, offensively,
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[SPEAKER_01]: overall is better than the Packers like they are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have a bed of quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Running backs, I can say as good or whatever, you may prefer counterwinds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to remember Vegas let Josh Jacobs go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Josh Jacobs has been better with the Packers receivers though, like receiving core perhaps, but him you throw in those tight ends that kind of balance that out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Receiving core can be the pack, but it's not even close with the they have two elite receivers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, two elite receivers with a deadly quarterback, anything can happen at any time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You saw the pass to the Titan Cobb on the sideline.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about it the last show, just the type of arm angle in that Matthew said.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we all know here for when he was in Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, like the dude, armed talent wise is unparalleled almost in history in a film.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's in that rear air of the top 10 of 15 guys, where it's like, I can spin it and I got armed strength.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he's up there and different arms slots to go along with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they can't be had.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What thing that you said?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've said this for weeks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Excuse me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You barely can beat anybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not us being bears, meatballs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just the fact of look at your television screen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to beat the 49ers, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Their only team has really had their number this year for the most part has been Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And guess what Detroit ain't here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, like...
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[SPEAKER_01]: I see only the bears hadn't been able to one up basically, so I mean, of course they have losses, which you do what I mean, teams that are in the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's time of possession.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, think about the bears really haven't been successful running the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they've been situational, successful, but the last couple of weeks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They haven't been, this is a chance to get back to the bread and butter and pound a living hell out of that Ram's team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The difference has some guys on it, but isn't as good as it was last season, but yeah, you got to beat the hell out of them and keep just one thing the bear's got to get back to is the Philadelphia game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and it's the physicality.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll get lead it back to you on this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'll wait to talk to you, friends.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they gotta get that offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so let me ask you this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Theo Benedict or he does stuff
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Brax and Jones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's really interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You say that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you have to go feel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not even sure have they opened up the window for Brax and Jones and I feel bad that I don't know that off the top of my head.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned the physicality, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as soon as you said physicality, before you even pose this question, you said physicality and I thought, well, it's kind of interesting that Theo Bennett is probably in line to start this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because what do we know about Theo Bennett from his stretch as the starting left tackle earlier this year before he got him?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Moller, Moller.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Moller, his past pro, was a little suspect at times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Asitra Pillow actually did a better job of protecting the blind side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but Theo Bennett did an excellent job of where he has the point of attack, getting out of space, getting out in space and creating huge lanes for the running backs on the left side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a guy where I feel good like if I wanna move the line of scrimmage and control this game on the ground, control the trenches from a physicality standpoint, I feel pretty good about having Theo Bennett is my left tackle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if Caleb Williams has to drop back and pass 48 times, again, as he did against the Packers, then I feel less good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then I feel less good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if Deandre Swift and Kalmanungai between the two of them, if they're running the ball 30, 35 times, now I feel pretty good about Theo Benedict.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So from a physicality standpoint, Joe Toney, I'll pro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get to that later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Drew Dalman had it his iffy moments in past pro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he has some iffy moments in the run defense as well in that game against the Packers, but overall has been really good about that combo block ceiling it off early and then getting that second level.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jonah Jackson
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, when he's healthy, he's been solid and then darn all right, it's been really, really good as a muller.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So with Theo Bennett at in there, not you're talking about, hey, this is a physical offensive line that can move the line of scrimmage 2 to 3 yards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Kenneth, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is your key to victory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think 79 could be a really good guy to get that done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like I like that you say that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's too full.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You won't Caleb to be protected, but Caleb's ability to scramble think about we really haven't seen Caleb break tackles like he was early in the season lately, I'm out to something wrong out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, my frozen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, okay, I was on Twitter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was on Twitter scroll.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay, so I was like that just since you've come in 23 hours ago, the Chicago Bears tweeted out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: they have activated, uh, brass and Jones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, doesn't mean he's going to start, but he is activated off of IR.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have, but he has to be activated as an emergency guy anyway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That has more to do with Aussie Trapillo being done for this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he has to be activated as an emergency guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I was going to say this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The fact that your quarterback can break tackles, um, and lately, it damn there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like, uh, when it comes to 300 pounds, two, two,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then, like body mass, like body fat is what I'm trying to say, 280 pound men, yoking him up and he breaks free like he's oiled to the teas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's something that is ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I like that you said that as far as running a ball on the foot side too with that, is what could also help the ability is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we know this is a bread and butter for Ben Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of times you're going to be going to play action off of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that kind of helps you a benefit you a little bit going up against that defensive end when it looks like it's going to be a run play and then you sit there and it's actually a pass play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, listen, he played well enough this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I would love Phil's Aussie to Kilo and he'd crazy part is we at this party year we're going to actually, I would love his Aussie to Kilo came out of my mouth that you know that the rookie had a pretty decent year and I'm more than decent year actually, but we, we, we great heart around here, but more than decent year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and we've said this and I was in foreguided then get a lot of reps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got reps but not a lot of reps during the preseason and I'll try to camp
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just hope he plays well enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See this is the problem with it though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What if it turns into the bears are down and you have to pass the damn ball?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now of course, and one thing that's good about Ben Johnson, he does not abandon the run because even when you're down like they were the last weekend, you still have to run the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to be, you can get three and out real quick by going pastly, pastly, pastly, pastly, pastly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you still need to have some thirds and shorts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: they have an opportunity to win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll definitely tell you what we think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, how many times at the end of this show over the last eight weeks have we said the bear's going to lose hit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a thing getting back to what you're saying about like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, if Caleb does have to throw the ball 50 times and does that less in their chances of winning and how do you cover up the Obedded it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen Ben Johnson do creative things to help out tackles, to help out blocking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And to honestly do cool things out of the backfield, something he did a bunch against the Packers could help a lot, a lot of 13 person, a lot of three tight ends, that's so not just
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[SPEAKER_00]: also impressive as a blocker when needed to be as a rookie tightend has been impressive in moments at Durham's wife who can definitely get the job done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So not only has he been doing some cool three tightend sets, which helps with the blocker, hey, let's chip, let's get Theo some help over here on the edge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's also done some funky stuff out of the eye formation that I kind of want to see more of
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[SPEAKER_00]: where he's had like receivers lining up as the quote unquote fullback in the information.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's definitely had tight ends lining up as the fullback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen I think all three guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we've seen Colson Love and Colcomet and Durham Smith in that information fullback spot and what that does is a it helps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It helps a blocker, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: If Theo gets hurt or if a blitzer comes, okay, you got a guy there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then what we've also seen him do is use those guys out of the backfield as if they're going to block and all of a sudden they're running a wheel route.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All of a sudden they're going out to the flat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So things like that, things like that, this is how
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ben Johnson can also scheme up some ways to help feel better than it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, Theo, you can't beat by Pairon Young all day.
19:05
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Theo, you're getting beat by Jared Vers.
19:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Because these two guys, right, you hear Jared Vers, Jared Vers, deserves all the praise.
19:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Byron Young, these are team and sex.
19:13
[SPEAKER_00]: 12, sex.
19:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're coming at you.
19:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Multiple, you want to talk about the scene doesn't got waves.
19:19
[SPEAKER_00]: The Rams got guys.
19:21
[SPEAKER_00]: The ram's got guys that could heat up, that can heat up the password.
19:24
[SPEAKER_00]: The guys, it ain't just pair of bursts.
19:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Byron Young is also a dude to contend with a serious dude.
19:31
[SPEAKER_00]: So if theos out there struggling, there are things that Ben Johnson's going to do.
19:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, let's roll out to the right.
19:37
[SPEAKER_00]: What's just?
19:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb can do that though.
19:44
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a guy where you if you need him to stand the pocket and deliver some Chris throws one, two, three.
19:49
[SPEAKER_00]: He could do that.
19:50
[SPEAKER_00]: If he's got to do a little spindle is left.
19:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they move.
19:56
[SPEAKER_00]: He can do that.
19:58
[SPEAKER_00]: If you need to run them out to the right and just say like we're taking whoever's coming from the left out of the picture, he can do that.
20:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the formations, the personnel, I do think Ben Johnson has a lot at his disposal where is it plan A?
20:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that it's like what they really, really, really, really want to do, but they have some stuff in their back pocket.
20:17
[SPEAKER_00]: They have some break glass in case of emergency things that they can go to that I believe can help if it's all of a sudden we need to be able to go through the
20:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, first of all, Durham smite, that's a bad ass name, like, do smite this while already something but Durham, you name your son, Durham.
20:36
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to give props for that.
20:38
[SPEAKER_01]: There was something you said, oh, this is what I was going to say.
20:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, not, not any of the, um, the jet sweepish or tosses, the tosses by outside the, towards the tackle being, I don't want to see none of that, right?
20:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to see that.
20:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And you could hold some of the sweeps.
20:56
[SPEAKER_01]: But now,
20:57
[SPEAKER_01]: It's time for the Razzle Dazzle Baby, because it's time to dig in that bag.
21:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we got three games left, right?
21:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It's time to just die.
21:06
[SPEAKER_01]: You never seen this before.
21:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Quarter out of the bag, but from behind the ear, like it's time for everything.
21:13
[SPEAKER_01]: So, taking the different color of tanker chiefs from under your sleeve, under the sleeve, yeah.
21:21
[SPEAKER_01]: All the tricks now, but listen, Nick, we think you're worried about this next year where we go and come up with, but now you're right now, it's time for the trickery, like it's been like here, right?
21:35
[SPEAKER_01]: You got three games, and that's so cool.
21:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Just, and we'll continue, we're going to get on a defensive side.
21:43
[SPEAKER_01]: But man, we are here, Bear's fans.
21:46
[SPEAKER_01]: At this part of the year,
21:48
[SPEAKER_01]: that nobody named mama except the most crazy bears fan actually thought that we can get here like that fan always thinks they're going to the super bowl.
21:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me really thinks they're going to the super bowl.
21:59
[SPEAKER_00]: The guy who's bought the over ticket for the past five years.
22:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I think he's floating.
22:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
22:05
[SPEAKER_01]: He's making a float.
22:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, his bear's fans.
22:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the city, the way the city is so engaged, going to work and talking to the people that chose the pat.
22:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, it's nothing.
22:19
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's one of the best parts of life in sports.
22:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know, because I'm not a heavy gambler.
22:24
[SPEAKER_01]: So people like, yeah, when I'm gambling, and I win, that's what I love, right?
22:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, understand.
22:29
[SPEAKER_01]: But when somebody tells you that your team is going to lose, and you don't just think your team is going to win because it's your team.
22:35
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, logically, no looking at this.
22:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Michael Parsons is out.
22:40
[SPEAKER_01]: They almost beat them with Michael Parsons, even though Michael Parsons got hurt that game.
22:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So that let you, again, know, Michael Parsons important of what could have been.
22:49
[SPEAKER_01]: But Michael Parsons is out.
22:50
[SPEAKER_01]: They should probably win, right?
22:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and trying to be logical and talk to people that are saying the packers, all of a more packers fans, some of them were just football fans was like, I don't know if they're going to be able to beat them.
22:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I think they're going to pull it off.
23:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're watching the game thinking, man, I got to see that person in whatever number of days you got to see them.
23:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you're going to be right at me.
23:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're a good sports fan, you just got to take like, I hate people that I'm not just just take it, but whatever.
23:13
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're going to dish, you got to take.
23:16
[SPEAKER_01]: That part right there and one of my co-workers she's like, they got lucky in the fork even doing that all year That's why I told you they were gonna win is it not lock though.
23:26
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
23:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well point is it not luck when you've done it ten times.
23:29
[SPEAKER_00]: It actually lucky
23:30
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's what you do, right?
23:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And listen, this is something we talked about Alex.
23:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, you can't go and do that all the next year, right?
23:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Or at some point, you end up being a team that that falls off and you're never going to reach your potential because you never learned how to win from the first quarter to the third quarter, right?
23:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Like at some point, you do have to be a team that doesn't put all that pressure on yourself at the end of the game, right?
23:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you do, right?
23:56
[SPEAKER_01]: But right now, you know, because you're learning
23:59
[SPEAKER_01]: and to walk in the work and be like, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
24:28
[SPEAKER_01]: who has been doing the business, we just need you to do this three, okay?
24:34
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right, Austin.
24:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Austin, keep that up.
24:39
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, this is where I listen.
24:41
[SPEAKER_01]: This is where legends are made, right?
24:44
[SPEAKER_01]: You can be a bust.
24:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And we will be talking for the next two years, waiting for you to reclaim what you did, the latter half of this season.
24:52
[SPEAKER_01]: We do that, man.
24:52
[SPEAKER_01]: You know Austin, to turn it on again.
24:54
[SPEAKER_00]: People are still talking about the pal Schwabber statue.
24:57
[SPEAKER_01]: do.
24:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, right?
24:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And man, when it got away, some Chicago teams should have signed up.
25:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd say that much.
25:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody should have signed his ass, right?
25:08
[SPEAKER_01]: But still, I mean, if Austin Booker can keep doing what he's doing.
25:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And another thing, too, about time and possession, man, y'all can't leave that defense out there like y'all did at the end of that game.
25:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And they would just, they were burned.
25:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you can't say this, we've criticized this
25:27
[SPEAKER_01]: bus in the ass that last game, particularly in the game.
25:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but they got get it.
25:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm listening to negative.
25:33
[SPEAKER_01]: They got gas.
25:33
[SPEAKER_01]: They got gas.
25:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you also think like Andrew Billings got heard early in that game.
25:38
[SPEAKER_00]: You've lost it in part of that rotation.
25:41
[SPEAKER_00]: So you've got a great e-gerat and jerk on.
25:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Ducks are like really taking really going on.
25:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
25:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
25:48
[SPEAKER_01]: It's sick.
25:49
[SPEAKER_01]: It's
25:53
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so that, if that defense of line plays similar to what it did last week over the all four quarters of Dennis Allen adjustments take place earlier, even if they have to happen to have time fun.
26:06
[SPEAKER_01]: But like, and if the defense can just slow them, defense can slow them down and it's could be a beautiful thing.
26:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Seriously.
26:13
[SPEAKER_01]: This could be that you have your defensive backs are really situational right now.
26:19
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not game covering guys.
26:21
[SPEAKER_01]: They're guys that can pop, and I'm talking about your hurt guys in your star, highest pay guys in Jalen Johnson and Kyla Gordon.
26:29
[SPEAKER_01]: But maybe another week, maybe they're a little bit healthier than they were.
26:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Tyre Stevenson has to be on deck just in case this week.
26:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody anybody goes down and you're going to need healthier, younger guys out there to try to keep up with these guys, because what I mean, both of them are crafty receivers, but Devontay Adams is one of the craftiest route runners.
26:49
[SPEAKER_01]: in the NFL, Pukutaku was just a beast.
26:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, he's good.
26:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even understand.
26:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's helped me in the past in fantasy, but what Pukutaku was so good, that he kicked their own favorite while receiver off the team basically.
27:05
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, you got, yeah, we got a guy.
27:07
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to go, right?
27:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I heard maybe in Seattle or something, but you got to get up out here, Cooper Cup, right?
27:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, running game, man.
27:16
[SPEAKER_01]: That run a game is something, but the bears have been a team where they've been situation with the run.
27:22
[SPEAKER_01]: They haven't been great with the run.
27:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes they've been given up.
27:24
[SPEAKER_01]: They've been gashed a lot.
27:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And in fact, the Andrew Billings is was injured.
27:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, that could be a problem when it comes to stopping an offense that has a great passing game, but also has a really dependable running game.
27:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it'd be interesting to see what Dennis Allen does to cover up for Billings, um, not being available.
27:47
[SPEAKER_01]: How injured.
27:48
[SPEAKER_01]: How hurt is that your Billings.
27:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Do we know?
27:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me google that for you.
27:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Please, because I mean, if it's he totally out, but I mean, that will be up.
27:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I would definitely want to know that because not having that basically knows tackle there.
28:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, could be a huge issue of getting blown off the damn ball during the run game.
28:08
[SPEAKER_01]: But, man, that's another thing.
28:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the bears were really good with depth this year, but that's another place you're going to have to add depth.
28:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Then we kind of talked about Angie Billin's kind of getting older.
28:21
[SPEAKER_01]: We all get old.
28:22
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a knock on him.
28:23
[SPEAKER_01]: He's, I think he was undervalued when the bears initially brought him in.
28:27
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's it.
28:28
[SPEAKER_01]: He got to look for somebody to compensate if you keep him and take the job.
28:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe have him as a back in the rotational guy.
28:39
[SPEAKER_00]: not finding much on Andrew Billings injury updates.
28:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
28:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's suffered a hip injury.
28:52
[SPEAKER_01]: But nothing as far as he if he's out or anything like that.
28:56
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think there's I don't think there's anything latest as we're recording this.
29:01
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no, there's no injury report yet from the bears.
29:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So you might be listening to this.
29:06
[SPEAKER_00]: You might be saying, there is a dribbling news, how did you miss this?
29:10
[SPEAKER_00]: The bears tweeted it out themselves as we are recording this right now.
29:15
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no bears injury report out just yet.
29:17
[SPEAKER_00]: So we don't know if Andrew Billings is limited if he did not participate.
29:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Or if he's a full participant, but he exited with that hip injury, he did not return to that football game, obviously.
29:35
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, we don't know.
29:36
[SPEAKER_00]: The bears may be with up big bill.
29:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they'll get him back.
29:41
[SPEAKER_00]: When we're recording this right now, it's a mystery.
29:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, officially questionable.
29:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's just the game like you said.
29:48
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the game again.
29:49
[SPEAKER_01]: You're right, mate.
29:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
29:52
[SPEAKER_00]: So,
29:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the other thing.
29:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Just like we said, hey, Devante Adams with one extra week to get a little bit healthy with one week to shake off the rust.
30:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I do wonder if we see that with Kyler Gordon, because Kyler Gordon did not play for the majority of that first half.
30:16
[SPEAKER_00]: It seemed like he was a break glass in case of emergency type player just because he wasn't starting.
30:21
[SPEAKER_00]: It was Nick McCloud starting and then they went to the guy they called up off the practice squad at Sam before we saw Kyler Gordon and there were moments where Kyler Gordon was shaky against the packers.
30:32
[SPEAKER_00]: But then to me it looked like when he got his legs under him a little bit, he started to make some plays.
30:37
[SPEAKER_00]: was he getting challenged and was he getting beaten sometimes?
30:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, but he also was he was in there mixing it up and it seemed like he got a little bit better as that game went on.
30:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if getting that game, those game reps last week will help him be better this week because he got to imagine the bears are going to turn to him again, right?
31:00
[SPEAKER_00]: The bear's turned
31:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So you got to imagine that Kyler Gordon should be a part of their plans.
31:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, this week and from a bear's perspective, you just have to hope that
31:16
[SPEAKER_00]: that that path of game, that half a game of of those live bullets hitting running really planet because you can't replicate game stuff for real, for real, for real, for real, right?
31:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Practices practice, going live and practice helps, but there's nothing like playing the game.
31:35
[SPEAKER_00]: So,
31:37
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think I think it would help the bear's defense a lot if if Kyler Gordon maybe takes a step up.
31:43
[SPEAKER_00]: If Kyler Gordon can not shut his play in the middle and play closer to the Kyler Gordon, where it's, you know, used to seeing one of the best nickels, especially near the line of scrimmage, a great nickel in the blitz.
31:57
[SPEAKER_00]: That could be huge.
31:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Also CJ Gardner Johnson.
32:01
[SPEAKER_00]: If he is back from his concussion, if he gets cleared, if CJ Gardener Johnson gets cleared from his concussion, that helps a lot too because now you've got your top two guys back instead of relying on your third guy Nick McCloud.
32:15
[SPEAKER_00]: So there are there are some reasons to be optimistic about the bears in the middle.
32:20
[SPEAKER_00]: uh and how it can help.
32:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I already went over to Marco Jackson, dude, super fast.
32:24
[SPEAKER_00]: He triggered super fast.
32:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the bears can take advantage of that aggressiveness, take advantage of his speed to slow down that Rams running attack, uh, to keep up with guys in the middle of the field.
32:37
[SPEAKER_00]: He played really, really well.
32:40
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... in the middle of the season when german admins and how a soul and tj ad words when all three of those guys were out and we were like what the best you do they don't have any linebackers to mark o jackson played well so that game experience i think should help him it's not
32:58
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not all woe is me with the bears in their secondary.
33:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know what the ram's got issues in their secondary as well.
33:03
[SPEAKER_00]: The bears got issues in their second, or the ram's got issues in their secondary where if the bears can slow down Jarod verse, if the bears can work their way around Byron Young and take some shots down field and the bears have taken all plenty of shots down field.
33:15
[SPEAKER_00]: They've been super explosive.
33:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like for all the opportunities, the ram's offense will have the bears offense should also have those opportunities.
33:22
[SPEAKER_00]: It could really be a shoot out again, man.
33:24
[SPEAKER_01]: It could be a shoot out again.
33:28
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no question in that.
33:30
[SPEAKER_01]: The great part is that we actually got a pistol.
33:32
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, back in the days, we was throwing rocks.
33:36
[SPEAKER_00]: They were bringing rocks to the gunfight.
33:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Now they got a gun in the gunfight.
33:43
[SPEAKER_01]: like, man, like, we actually, that we got yoppos.
33:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It's there, there are things in the back here.
33:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Drakos are on deck and ready to be used.
33:53
[SPEAKER_01]: We're in the past.
33:54
[SPEAKER_01]: We were sling shot it up.
33:56
[SPEAKER_01]: This was, we were David in this piece.
33:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And it is time, right?
34:00
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's one thing.
34:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, even from a shootout where our gun is jammed for three quarters.
34:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you ever seen Transformers the movie, I know that maybe a little bit over you.
34:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
34:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I've seen Transformers.
34:20
[SPEAKER_01]: So do you remember where Omega Supreme was trying to open up the Matrix and he was like open damn you and the sweeps were coming and they killed him?
34:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh no, I'm not the cartoon, you're talking about the Alive Actual.
34:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay, so I love the cartoon.
34:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the cartoon, like the TV show.
34:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Was there a cartoon movie?
34:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, there was a cartoon movie.
34:45
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was about to cry.
34:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I was probably I killed in the cartoon movie.
34:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is real quick and we'll get back to Barry's football.
34:53
[SPEAKER_01]: They wanted to come out with new toys because people had bought it all the toys.
34:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So they were like basically get rid of those and they came out with this character.
35:01
[SPEAKER_01]: His name was Hot Rod and he turned the Rod and his prime was trash.
35:04
[SPEAKER_01]: But uh, they had to bring it was nothing like a school day finding out.
35:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Optimus promise a lot, but like you cry, it was like, Optimus gets out.
35:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry for ruining so this is what you know.
35:15
[SPEAKER_01]: He should sit on the morning on the old animated.
35:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, great.
35:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Because that's because our attacking the Autobots and Optimus prime is like Stone Coast Steve Austin.
35:25
[SPEAKER_01]: He's beaten everyone's ass going to the rain.
35:28
[SPEAKER_01]: to get to him and Megatron having a fight.
35:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And he beats Megatron, but they both are fatally wounded in that they're the battle.
35:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's enough of the transform.
35:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate to accept a cause.
35:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate to accept a cause.
35:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And so does New York, A.E.s gang members back in the days.
35:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I do have one thing.
35:48
[SPEAKER_00]: My bread and butter specifically for me and this is gonna age me a little bit.
35:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Beast Wars, dude.
35:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
35:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I was a transformers beast wars.
35:59
[SPEAKER_01]: That was my house and I was in the streets when Beast Wars was a beast.
36:02
[SPEAKER_01]: That was a little bit, but I was like, not enough time for cartoons, back in the middle of the round of time with Beast Wars.
36:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out Transformers Beast Wars.
36:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the best television show of all time.
36:14
[SPEAKER_00]: That's at least how I remember it.
36:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember it as the best television show of all time.
36:19
[SPEAKER_00]: But anyways, back to the bears, who's going to be the beast role or who's going to be Optimus Prime for the Chicago Bears offense?
36:27
[SPEAKER_00]: How do we even get talking about?
36:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you know who Optimus Prime will, okay, this is the, I will say this.
36:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Optimus Prime would have to be, it would you want to say Caleb, but it's not Caleb.
36:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It would have to be because Caleb is still too young and too immature in some ways.
36:46
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I'm trying to think who's a young Autobot that was like, always kind of into it or whatever.
36:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Joe Thunny is probably Optimus Prime on all this.
36:57
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
36:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Like this is the wild that that sets the course and comes through or whatever And they're done that.
37:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I got the right.
37:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Like it like it and it's not a apples to apples comparison Caleb was like grim lock like me let me take over the job.
37:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the best out here.
37:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I leave Like oh I'm trying to think or it would be hotrod even though we didn't get a lot of hotrod and again enough of the transform
37:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Any other thoughts on a defense, Alex?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, bears got to find their Optimus Prime.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They need to, or do they need their Starscream?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't, you know who Starscream now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have a star screen was kind of be where, I mean, I like them because he was such like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was talk the character was such the character, but he won the tablet too much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think we have a...
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a long time ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really remember the ins and outs of all these guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still need Megatron.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in charge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, you had, you wanted to go over to all pros.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't get to go over because of the Packers game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So go right ahead, Alex.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we didn't talk about it because that game was just too crazy, but shout out to three bears all pros first team all pros mega tron.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Joe to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Optimus prime.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Call them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Optimus prime.
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[SPEAKER_00]: AKA Joe to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: heaven bired first team all pro for his phenomenal season and team second team all pro darnal right who is who has now officially realized the potential when the bears drafted darnal right the talk was hey upside is this guy isn't all pro right tackle and now he's an all pro right tackle and shout out Ryan Pulse
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ryan Polk has drafted and all pro all three of those guys very deserving and I think it's it's great that these three guys are all pro because it's like okay here's the guy we brought in to sure this up we brought in Joe Tune because he can be an all pro because he is Optimus Prime because he has won the championships with the two greatest franchises of the last 30 years with the
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[SPEAKER_00]: all pro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Donald right, we passed up Jalen Carter because you can be an all pro right tackle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We passed up Jalen Carter because we got to protect our next quarterback and you are extremely important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Congratulations, you're an all pro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it is,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's obviously great for these players who had great seasons, but I think it's almost like a proof of concept also for what Ryan polls did with this line, and then Kevin buyer just Kevin, you brought Kevin buyer to be Kevin buyer and Kevin buyer was Kevin buyer so his best season is a bear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Without doubt without a doubt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great free time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My only problem, again, that's not a problem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Congratulations to all of them, is the people that are like, oh, yeah, they just definitely should have drafted down that right over Jalen Carter, like down a rights complaint like this, since he's been in that fail.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know who's been playing like that since they've been in NFL, Jalen Carter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's, but this is not true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now this is not a you thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just sometimes, and like because we've had this debating people know people want to say to me like, yeah, it's just like listen, you can say you prefer something, but when you're talking about what they've done on the field, the entirety of their careers, Jalen Carter has fulfilled what he was supposed to do since he entered into the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And see an ass?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I will not argue with you about that, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But this isn't about who's an ass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's about what do you do on the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he has been a phenomenal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the better DTs in the NFL, basically since he's entered the league, this is the first year Donald Wright has been one of the better Wright tackles in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just the truth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can try to agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, this isn't, again, this is has nothing to do with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is like the streets, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a throw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing to do with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But just people like to sit there and try to pull a fast one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the fast one's never going to be pulled.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stop playing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all I had to say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm ended in the case of like, it lessons the sting of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like, okay, at least the guy that we chose is also in all
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, no, no, again, this is, this is nothing to do with you, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I, a couple of times, and just like again, you can say, look, I, I just wanted them to do that, and that'll be fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you negate what Jalen Carter has done since entering the NFL is being,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not honest, all right, untruthful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess is the word that I'm looking for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jalen Carter has been very good at football.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been in a mess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He did, he has been kicked out of games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have seen it, he has had his ups and his downs but he has been good and he has won a Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has a Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then one of the main reasons that his team is where they're at consistently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you looking at a sack in I'm just looking at his playoff numbers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He've been really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a phenomenal athlete.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be back after the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe a little later because I had to catch up since I will be a work for part of that game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we will be back after the game to chat and
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[SPEAKER_01]: about everything good, about what the bears did on the lake front to the ramps, whether it's going to kind of be a little up and down the next day or two, we got, did you see that blizzard that we had this morning?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you guys see it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I drove through it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some man, little.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man, that was it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't, they didn't, the meteorologist didn't give us the heads up on that one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, I was like, it's a blizzard outside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll guess there is, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so we'll be back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We safe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as always, we appreciate you taking a little time to join us here on the Winni City podcast.