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BEAUTIFUL CO-ED FOUND IN POOL OF BLOOD, USC FRATERNITY ROW NEIGHBORHOOD · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: A beautiful co ed found dead in a pool of
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Speaker 2: blood USC Fraternity Row neighborhood.
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Speaker 1: What happened to Logan? I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.
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Speaker 1: I want to thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 3: Logan Federico is a twenty two year old girl with
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Speaker 3: a promising bright future ahead, but a weekend trip with
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Speaker 3: friends takes a deadly turn.
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Speaker 2: You know, I don't like what he just said. It
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Speaker 2: takes a deadly turn, like she just got lost somehow
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Speaker 2: and now she's dead in a pool of blood. It
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Speaker 2: was not a deadly turn. She was murdered. At first,
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Speaker 2: we were told she was killed in her sleep, just
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Speaker 2: like we were told in the Coburger prosecution. Oh, the
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Speaker 2: four victims were killed in their sleep, like they fell
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Speaker 2: asleep and they never woke up. That's not what happened there,
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Speaker 2: and that's not what happened here. She was forced out
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Speaker 2: of bed, naked, to kneel, to kneel at the feet
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Speaker 2: of her chiller before she was executed dead in cold blood.
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Speaker 1: That's what happened. Listen to what we know.
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Speaker 4: Investigators believe the suspect breaks into one of the Cypress
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Speaker 4: Street homes and he steals keys to a vehicle and
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Speaker 4: several items, including a firearm. The suspect also breaks into
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Speaker 4: the home next door. These houses are side by side,
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Speaker 4: and he steals several items, including a wallet and credit.
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Speaker 5: And debit cards.
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Speaker 4: While in this residence, we believe that he enters a
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Speaker 4: room where this Logan is located and fires a fatal shot.
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Speaker 2: That from our friends at WLTX and blunt forced media. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: everything he said was right, but it's not like he
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Speaker 2: enters a room where miss Logan is located and.
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Speaker 1: Fires a fatal shot.
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Speaker 2: No, she was dragged, forced out of her bed where
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Speaker 2: she's asleep, buck naked and forced to kneel down on
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Speaker 2: her knees.
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Speaker 1: This young co ed girl in the fraternity.
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Speaker 2: Row neighborhood, mining her own business, kneeling down in front
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Speaker 2: of the assailant and he shoots her point blank. That's
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Speaker 2: a lot different from he the enters a room where
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Speaker 2: miss Logan is and fires a fatal shot.
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Speaker 1: It's no, that is not the way this went down.
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Speaker 1: What more do we know?
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Speaker 6: Twenty two year old Logan Federico takes a break from
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Speaker 6: her two jobs in classes at South Piedmont Community College
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Speaker 6: and wax on North Carolina to spend a weekend visiting
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Speaker 6: friends who attend USC and Columbia. South Carolina is firing teacher,
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Speaker 6: let's loosen with their friends. Returning home on Cyprus Street,
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Speaker 6: the group quickly dispersed to their rooms, planning to sleep
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Speaker 6: late Saturday morning, joining us an all star panel.
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Speaker 2: But first, I want to go out to a special
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Speaker 2: guest joining us. We've all heard a fit news before.
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Speaker 2: Fits news leaped to the forefront of the national consciousness
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Speaker 2: when Alex Murdog murdered his wife and son.
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Speaker 1: And joining me right now, Jen Would.
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Speaker 2: Director research at fitsnews dot Com. Jen, thank you for
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Speaker 2: being with us. First of all, where was this? I understand?
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Speaker 2: Is there University of South Carolina forraternity roat neighborhood.
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Speaker 7: So it is a neighborhood that's very popular for students.
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Speaker 7: It's about a half mile to a mile from the
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Speaker 7: University of South Carolina. I'm campus right by five Points
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Speaker 7: where all the kids go to the bars, and a
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Speaker 7: lot of fraternity members have houses there. So yeah, it is.
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Speaker 7: It's you know what, as a parent, you would hope
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Speaker 7: it would be a safe place for your kids to be.
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Speaker 2: Jen would the way this is being portrayed. It makes
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Speaker 2: it sound like she was asleep and then she's dead.
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Speaker 2: That is not at all what happened.
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Speaker 8: No, it is not at all what happened. It was
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Speaker 8: a brutal, brutal homicide. It was so unnecessary, and you know,
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Speaker 8: just seeing this this young woman, you know, starting her
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Speaker 8: life out die in that manner.
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Speaker 9: And then her.
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Speaker 8: Father, Steve also told me that not only did she
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Speaker 8: die that her epid death, but she'd laid there for
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Speaker 8: seven hours before anybody discovered her.
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Speaker 2: You know what's really interesting too, Mark Pepper joining us
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Speaker 2: from this jurisdiction, a veteran trial lawyer, I might add
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Speaker 2: at the Pepper Law firm, Mark, why is it that
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Speaker 2: we heard so much about the Coburger case, which rightfully
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Speaker 2: we should have because it never did go to trial.
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Speaker 2: No telling them what would have happened if we hadn't
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Speaker 2: been watching it. But nobody is talking about Logan's case.
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Speaker 2: And it's essentially the same scenario. A PERV who goes
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Speaker 2: from house to house to house burgling, and doctor Sherry
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Speaker 2: Schwartz is going to explain the weird thrill burglars get
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Speaker 2: from pilfering around in your home like coburger. He comes in,
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Speaker 2: finds this beautiful girl, a co ed, and murders her.
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Speaker 2: And at first we're told, oh, it all happened in
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Speaker 2: her sleep, like somehow that's going to make it better.
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Speaker 2: But that's not what happened. She knew she was being
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Speaker 2: attacked and was even forced to kneel naked in front
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Speaker 2: of the killer.
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Speaker 5: Tragic set of events snow down, and I commend you
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Speaker 5: for bringing attention to it. I will say that it
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Speaker 5: is early in not only the investigation, but the prostitution
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Speaker 5: of the case. And I don't think that this is
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Speaker 5: just a problem that our system provides here in South Carolina,
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Speaker 5: but nationally, law enforcement has to perform their due diligence,
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Speaker 5: just like the defense is entitled to build a defense.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I just right then, but put him up
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Speaker 2: due diligence, my rear end, do you diligence? This guy
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Speaker 2: has a rap sheet as long as I seventy five.
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Speaker 2: He's a career criminal, Jackie. How many entries is twenty
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Speaker 2: five felonies?
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Speaker 1: Okay? Twenty five felonies under his spell.
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Speaker 2: Due diligence and he was out on the street because
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Speaker 2: of a clerical error.
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Speaker 1: That is not due diligence, Pepper, Well.
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Speaker 5: Due diligence should have been done clearly leading up to
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Speaker 5: this event, and it needs to be done now. Nancy.
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Speaker 5: There's an investigation that's going on. We don't know the
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Speaker 5: facts and circumstances than what we've been told, which is
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Speaker 5: not a whole lot from the City of Columbia Police Chief.
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Speaker 5: To your point, I'm simply pointing out that as the
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Speaker 5: investigation continues, I think more will come to light and
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Speaker 5: hopefully maybe we start talking about logan rightfully so. But
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Speaker 5: in the meantime, you know, the defendant is entitled to
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Speaker 5: his day in court. He's going to get his day
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Speaker 5: in court. He's also entitled to the constitutional protections of
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Speaker 5: being a defendant, and I suspect that is being weighed
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Speaker 5: with the interest of the victim and the family, and
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Speaker 5: it's probably being played a little close to the vest
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Speaker 5: at this point. I suspect more information will come out
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Speaker 5: as days development.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm going to get the information and I'm
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Speaker 2: going to put it.
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Speaker 1: Out there close to the vest.
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Speaker 2: Not releasing information that's a very far cry, Mark Pepper
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Speaker 2: from releasing misinformation.
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Speaker 1: Such as she died in her sleep.
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Speaker 2: It's like she had a bad dream and never woke up,
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Speaker 2: like maybe she had an aneurism or a heart attack,
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Speaker 2: maybe a heart defect, and she just drifted off and
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Speaker 2: never came back. No, that's not what happened at all.
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Speaker 3: Listen to this Saturday morning. The brothers and their visiting
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Speaker 3: friends are awoken with a start. A gunshot just rang
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Speaker 3: out inside their home. The panic young men and women
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Speaker 3: gather in the living room, but Logan hasn't come out
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Speaker 3: of the guest room. Her friends burst through the door
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Speaker 3: to check on her and find Logan unconscious, lying in
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Speaker 3: a pool of blood. Her belongings ransacked.
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Speaker 2: So it seems as if she was shot dead and
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Speaker 2: then the room was ransacked for money or any other valuable.
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Speaker 1: That's cold.
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Speaker 2: That is cold, And I want to go out to
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Speaker 2: doctor Eric Eason board first board certified forensic pathologist and consultant.
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Speaker 1: You can find him on Facebook.
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Speaker 2: Eric august Esen, doctor Ethon, thank you for being with us,
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Speaker 2: Doctor Eson. Question, she wasn't found for at least seven hours?
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Speaker 2: Will that hander the medical examiner's quest to find out
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Speaker 2: what happened to her? And this is really important, Aeson,
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Speaker 2: because I want to clarify and confirm that she was
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Speaker 2: kneeling down in front of the killer when he shot her,
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Speaker 2: and I'm only gonna be able to corroborate that with
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Speaker 2: the trajectory path of the bullet.
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Speaker 1: Explain.
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Speaker 10: Okay, so yeah, saw it off shotgun. So there would
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Speaker 10: have been multiple pellets involved, whether it was bird shot
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Speaker 10: or buckshot. Multiple pellets would have been recovered from her
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Speaker 10: during the actual autopsy, and the trajectory would have been
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Speaker 10: all over because once pellets entered the body, they go
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Speaker 10: all over the place, and so it's usually going front
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Speaker 10: to back that it's all going up or down. Have
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Speaker 10: this thing called a billiard ball effect. All the pellets
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Speaker 10: just kind of spread once they ender of the body.
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Speaker 2: Doctor Aerry Aeson, Yes, just slowed down. Because that's a
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Speaker 2: lot of information, Okay. A shotgun releases a burst of
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Speaker 2: tiny pellets, as opposed to let's just say too or
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Speaker 2: any other handgun which releases one bullet at a time,
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Speaker 2: unless you guys try to see me, or an automatic anyway,
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Speaker 2: But even with a shotgun releasing multiple pellets, you can
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Speaker 2: still get a trajectory path. Even though there are multiple
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Speaker 2: pellets going different ways, you can get.
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Speaker 11: An overall path once they enter the body. You know,
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Speaker 11: the entrance wound for the pellets is on the chest,
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Speaker 11: on the front of the body. They're all going to
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Speaker 11: go front to back, but some are going to be
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Speaker 11: going up, some are going to be going down, left, right,
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Speaker 11: et cetera. So you can get an overall trajectory up
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Speaker 11: front to back.
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Speaker 1: That's that's sir.
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Speaker 2: Sure you mentioned a sawed off jin wood? Was the
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Speaker 2: weapon a saw off shotgun? Mary Hutchison, help me out here.
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Speaker 2: I've had cases with sawed offs. People carry a saw
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Speaker 2: off because they can conceal it. A shotgun is this big,
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Speaker 2: and a sawed off is this big? Right?
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Speaker 5: Greg?
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Speaker 2: A sawed off in itself is a crime to own
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Speaker 2: a sawt off shotgun is a crime in itself. Bury,
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Speaker 2: What is this convicted felon doing with a sawt off?
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Speaker 12: Well, you know, Nancy, to me, after reviewing the entire case,
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Speaker 12: we're looking at the schematics of the case in itself.
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Speaker 12: I'm looking at the thing as it never should have
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Speaker 12: happened to begin with.
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Speaker 13: Why is this guy on the street.
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Speaker 12: I mean, he's got like you said earlier, he's got
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Speaker 12: a rap sheet as long as your leg, and there's
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Speaker 12: just been a failure on.
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Speaker 5: The level of the judicial system.
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Speaker 12: I mean, it's a shame that this young lady lost
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Speaker 12: her life because of the incomfluence of the system. And
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Speaker 12: I mean, we're looking at everything hindsight twenty twenty from this,
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Speaker 12: but the fact of the matter is in my mind
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Speaker 12: taking place.
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Speaker 2: Hutchinson, I like you man twenty six years in LA
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Speaker 2: law enforcement, detective owner, chief investigator, burying Associates, investigative services.
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Speaker 2: But you're not a preacher. Don't preach to the choir
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Speaker 2: about this guy should have been behind bars. I'm asking you.
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Speaker 2: Is possession of a thawt off shotgun a felony.
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Speaker 12: It's a federal felony, so that would be a yes,
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Speaker 12: it would be a yes.
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Speaker 1: Pepper jump in. What is this guy doing?
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Speaker 2: A career criminal breaking in on this girl in the
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Speaker 2: shadow a fraternity row where everybody spends all their money
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Speaker 2: and their hopes and their dreams, and they get their
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Speaker 2: they get their child into college.
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Speaker 1: And then this guy is skulking around, he's the new
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Speaker 1: Brian Coberger and comes in, gets this girl out.
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Speaker 2: Of bed naked, makes her kneel down in front of
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Speaker 2: him to shoot her. And the last thing I want
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Speaker 2: to do this is get a tiger by the tail
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Speaker 2: is to argue with doctor Eric Esen. But while a
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Speaker 2: shotgun trajectory is much more complex than a single bullet
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Speaker 2: because of the pellet spray, you can get the trajectory
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Speaker 2: based on external ballistics like the pellet size, the velocity,
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Speaker 2: the choke.
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Speaker 1: The pattern, the range.
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Speaker 2: Now, shotguns are not meant for pinpoint accuracy, but you
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Speaker 2: can absolutely even though it's a cluster of pellets and
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Speaker 2: they spray out as they travel, you can still get
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Speaker 2: a trajectory path.
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Speaker 1: And why do I care?
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Speaker 2: Because I believe the prosecutor can prove whether this guy
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Speaker 2: gives a confession or not, that he had her kneeling
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Speaker 2: down in front of him.
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Speaker 1: When he murdered her with a sawt off pepper.
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Speaker 5: Which he clearly was not allowed to possess, purchase, or
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Speaker 5: even carry around with him at any point in time.
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Speaker 5: It's not only against federal law, but it's against seat
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Speaker 5: law here in South Carolina, not only because you can't
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Speaker 5: have assault off shotgun period, but because of his prior
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Speaker 5: record as a felm, he was not allowed to down
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Speaker 5: a shotgun. I will say, however, that the reason he
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Speaker 5: was able to be on the streets and be in
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Speaker 5: that fraternity row. Is because of the judicial system. He
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Speaker 5: was placed on probation for his last don't look.
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Speaker 2: Are you trying to tell me, okay, here you go.
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Speaker 2: Are you trying to say it's the system's fault. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's their fault. They let him out on a clerical error,
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Speaker 2: but nobody made him break in on Logan and shoot
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Speaker 2: her dead. Let her dead body lay there seven hours
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Speaker 2: in a pool of blood while he looks around to
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Speaker 2: see if he can find some spare change. So now,
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Speaker 2: the probation department, the sheriff's fault, is not the judge,
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Speaker 2: it's not the calendar clerk.
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Speaker 1: It's his fault.
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Speaker 5: It is clearly his fault if he's proven guilty of
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Speaker 5: this crime. But it is the fault of the judicial system.
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Speaker 5: If you're looking to place blame elsewhere regarding some types
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Speaker 5: of errors, I would make the valid argument, based on
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Speaker 5: his rap sheet that I'm not seeing a clerical error.
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Speaker 5: What I'm seeing is conviction after conviction after conviction. Yet somehow,
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Speaker 5: be it through the state, through the prosecutor's office, or
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Speaker 5: through the cinising judges, he's just never doing much time.
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Speaker 9: Unbeknownst to the sleeping college students, A burglar is on
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Speaker 9: the problem the quiet neighborhood, rummaging through nearby homes. The
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Speaker 9: neighborhood is home to USC fraternity brothers, and with each
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Speaker 9: roommate on a different schedule, doors are seldom locked. The
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Speaker 9: burglar gains access walking right through one of the doors
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Speaker 9: without a sound to alert anyone of his presence.
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Speaker 2: How does a beautiful young co ed their off fraternity
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Speaker 2: row USC University, South Carolina end up dead? She went
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Speaker 2: to her room to go to sleep, and now she's
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Speaker 2: found dead in a pool of blood.
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Speaker 6: Listen to this as the friends call nine to one.
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Speaker 6: One their next door neighbor is calling to report someone
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Speaker 6: stealing his car. Still on the phone, the owner notices
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Speaker 6: a shot gun missing from his home. Law enforcement connects
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Speaker 6: the dots and begin the hunt for Logan's killer. Just
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Speaker 6: minutes later, numerous purchases are made in Lexington and Saluta
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Speaker 6: County using Logan's debit card.
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Speaker 4: We believe that he enters a room where the slogan
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Speaker 4: is located and fires a fatal shot that from.
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Speaker 2: Our friends at WLTX straight out to Jenwood, joining us
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Speaker 2: direct to research Fitsnews dot Com. Jen looking at the timeline,
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Speaker 2: so the perp breaks in. He finds Logan asleep in bed,
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Speaker 2: starts ransacking the room, forces her out of bed, puts
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Speaker 2: her on her knees, shoots her dead. Then he takes
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Speaker 2: her credit cards and debit cards and goes and uses
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Speaker 2: the dead girls cards to just go on a shopping spree.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, he was on a spending spree.
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Speaker 14: In Steve Frederica, Logan's father said that he was on
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Speaker 14: the seventeenth to hold of a golf course and started
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Speaker 14: getting alerts from her credit card that it was being used.
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Speaker 2: Oh my stars, straight out to doctor Sherry Schwartz, joining
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Speaker 2: US forensic psychologists who specializes in capital mitigation and victim advocacy.
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Speaker 2: She's the author of Criminal Behavior, where law and psychology
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Speaker 2: intersect issues in legal psychology. He could have just taken
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Speaker 2: her stuff and left she was asleep, but he didn't.
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Speaker 2: He got her out of bed and shot her dead
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Speaker 2: with a shotgun point blank range. Then he takes her
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Speaker 2: debit cards and credit cards and goes on a shopping spree.
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Speaker 2: If that's not aggravating circumstances, I don't know what is.
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Speaker 2: She's lying there in a pool of blood, bleeding out
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Speaker 2: off front row and he thinks nothing of it and
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Speaker 2: uses her credit cards and debit cards. When I say
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Speaker 2: aggravating circumstance, I'm talking about a legal aggravating circumstance that
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Speaker 2: would support seeking the South Carolina death penalty.
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. Absolutely.
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Speaker 15: It would surprise me greatly if the state doesn't seek
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Speaker 15: the death penalty in a case like this.
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Speaker 1: Talking about going in.
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Speaker 15: And shooting her in her sleep is bad, it's horrible,
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Speaker 15: it's the worst. But the argument can be made that
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Speaker 15: it was an act of impulsivity and it wasn't intended,
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Speaker 15: but all of the behaviors dragging her out of bed,
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Speaker 15: wanting to see her suffer, because that's what that was about.
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Speaker 15: Killing her and then stealing her things and going around
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Speaker 15: and spending money in almost a celebratory manner, is a
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Speaker 15: level of depravity that warrants it to be aggravating and
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Speaker 15: warrants the seeking of the death penalty in this case.
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Speaker 2: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, You know, Mark Pepper, I'm
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Speaker 2: just waiting for you to say a burglary gone wrong,
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Speaker 2: like it's the burglary's fault.
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Speaker 1: Just go ahead and get it out of your system.
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Speaker 1: This is a gone wrong went wrong. It didn't go wrong.
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Speaker 2: You're making it sound like one of those self driving cars.
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Speaker 2: He just drives off the street and kills somebody. Nothing
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Speaker 2: just went wrong. This is steeped with premeditation. He breaks
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Speaker 2: in a lotus shotgun, sees her in bed, forces her
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Speaker 2: out of the bed, makes her.
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Speaker 1: Kneel at his knees like a Jahati.
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Speaker 2: Haven't you seen those horrible videos around September eleven where
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Speaker 2: Jahattis forced the victim to kneel in front of them
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Speaker 2: to execute them. That's what happened here. He did this,
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Speaker 2: and he planned to do it. Premeditation could be formed
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Speaker 2: in the blink of an eye. It doesn't take a
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Speaker 2: long thought out plan like poisoning someone over the course of.
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Speaker 1: Weeks and months.
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Speaker 2: It can be formed that intent to kill and the
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Speaker 2: time it takes you to raise the gun and pull
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Speaker 2: the trigger.
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Speaker 5: It can be But I would argue that the premeditation
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Speaker 5: element of murder in this instance would be much harder.
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Speaker 5: If it turns out that the gun used to commit
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Speaker 5: this crime was a gun found in the actual house,
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Speaker 5: if it belonged to someone that resided.
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Speaker 2: There another house, I'm sure you have a premeditation argument.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't found. Logan wasn't sleeping with the gun. He
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Speaker 2: stole the gun and enters her room, so it doesn't
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Speaker 2: matter he brought the gun in, he pointed it at
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Speaker 2: her after making her kneel down, and shot her execution style.
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Speaker 2: I mean, just go ahead and get it out of
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Speaker 2: your system.
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Speaker 1: It's a burglary gone wrong. I know that's what you
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Speaker 1: want to say.
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Speaker 5: It's a burglary really wrong. Okay, it's a burglary gone
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Speaker 5: really wrong. But the premeditated you.
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Speaker 1: Really you really see what was up? You get wrong?
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Speaker 1: It went really wrong?
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Speaker 5: Well, it's premeditation is going to be toughier Nancy. In
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Speaker 5: my opinion, as a trial lawyer, as a defense lawyer,
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Speaker 5: even as being as objective as I'm being today, it's
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Speaker 5: going to be tough to prove premeditation.
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Speaker 2: I asked you one quick little drink question. Would you
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Speaker 2: first of all, where did you go to law school versus.
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Speaker 5: South Drona and Columbia. And I'm very familiar with that.
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Speaker 2: Garry teach you about premeditation malicea forethought, minceorea.
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Speaker 1: Did I assume that was in your criminal so and.
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Speaker 2: You do agree with the universally held rule of law
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Speaker 2: that premeditation does not require any set period of time.
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Speaker 1: That it can be formed in the blink of an eye.
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Speaker 2: It can be formed in the time it takes you
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Speaker 2: to raise a gun and pull the trigger.
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Speaker 5: I agree, we don't have elements of murder though in
22:22
Speaker 5: South gold I do agree. Nancy. Yeah, but I don't
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Speaker 5: know that premeditation would even be needed to be proved,
22:26
Speaker 5: was my point, and I candidly I still think there
22:29
Speaker 5: will be an argument against it regardless. It's a murder charge.
22:32
Speaker 5: If the elements of murder are met a mouse forethought
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Speaker 5: with the intent to kill, which seems to be present here,
22:40
Speaker 5: then not only would it be murder, but to doctor
22:44
Speaker 5: schwartz point, it would certainly qualify for a capital death
22:47
Speaker 5: pedally prosecution.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you another question. I'm going to
22:51
Speaker 1: make it really easy.
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Speaker 2: South Carolina does have felony murder in the criminal code.
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Speaker 5: Correct, Yes, but that's typically you when it's the hand
23:00
Speaker 5: of one hand of all type issue. When it is
23:02
Speaker 5: just one actor, it would be murder. We don't have
23:05
Speaker 5: certain degrees of murder.
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Speaker 1: Do you have felony murder? That's a yes, no, Pepper.
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Speaker 5: Well, yes, murder is a felony offense. Yes.
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Speaker 2: Now, the theory of felony murder, when a death occurs
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Speaker 2: during the commission of a felony, it's felony murder.
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Speaker 13: Yes.
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Speaker 5: But typically when we look at the law here.
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Speaker 1: You figured it out. I'm not I'm just a JD.
23:26
Speaker 1: I'm not a DDS.
23:27
Speaker 2: I don't know how to pull a tooth, but I
23:30
Speaker 2: am willing to get hand me the plawyers because I
23:33
Speaker 2: am pulling his tooth and I'm doing it right now.
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Speaker 2: So in South Carolina you have felony murder. Burglary is
23:40
Speaker 2: a felony and a death occurred in the commission of
23:43
Speaker 2: a felony. And in South Carolina, felony murder does qualify
23:49
Speaker 2: as a death penalty crime.
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Speaker 5: It does. You're right, it does.
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Speaker 11: Good.
23:53
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get back to the facts. Now that I've
23:56
Speaker 2: gone round two with Mark Pepper.
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Speaker 1: Now I know why you win so many cases. You
24:01
Speaker 1: just wear the other side down.
24:04
Speaker 2: You exhaust them till they finally go fine straight probation.
24:09
Speaker 1: Now leave, I get it, now, I get it. Take
24:12
Speaker 1: a listen to this.
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Speaker 6: Investigators catch their suspect on video and recognize him immediately
24:18
Speaker 6: as frequent flyer Alexander Dickey of the nearly forty criminal charges.
24:22
Speaker 6: Alexander Dicky has only been sentenced in eight cases that
24:25
Speaker 6: involved robbery, drug possession, and larceny. In twenty twenty three,
24:29
Speaker 6: Dicky pleads guilty to third degree burglary and a sentenced
24:32
Speaker 6: to five years probation. Dicky's probation would have been it
24:35
Speaker 6: after the murder of Logan Federico, but it was shortened.
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Speaker 2: Joining me right now is a very special guest who
24:43
Speaker 2: I have waited anxiously to meet, and angry and wounded
24:51
Speaker 2: father who is distraught not only at his girl's murder,
24:57
Speaker 2: but what he has uncovered about her murder in her sleep.
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Speaker 2: Your fraternity wrote, joining me right now Logan's dad, mister Frederico,
25:13
Speaker 2: thank you for being with us, Thank.
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Speaker 13: You for having me. Really appreciate you taking the time
25:17
Speaker 13: to care about Logan's story.
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Speaker 2: Please do not thank me number one. Okay, talking to
25:24
Speaker 2: you inspires us, it angers us, It gives us the
25:30
Speaker 2: energy to keep going. So please tell me what happened,
25:36
Speaker 2: starting with the moment you learned something very horrible had occurred.
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Speaker 13: Well, obviously, you know may third changed our lives for
25:48
Speaker 13: the rest of our lives. But one thing everybody has
25:50
Speaker 13: to make I want to make something perfectly clear, and
25:53
Speaker 13: we found this out a couple of weeks ago. My
25:58
Speaker 13: beautiful daughter wasn't murdered in her sleep, Okay, when he
26:04
Speaker 13: entered the room, she woke and approached him, and he
26:09
Speaker 13: made her get on her knees, naked with her hands
26:13
Speaker 13: up in front of her, stuck a shotgun in her
26:16
Speaker 13: left cage under her breast, and pulled the trigger, leaving
26:20
Speaker 13: an itch half whole in her chest. That's what happened,
26:25
Speaker 13: was a premeditated execution. The day we found out that
26:31
Speaker 13: changed everything May third was a horrible day. But at
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Speaker 13: the end of the day, what we're finding out and
26:40
Speaker 13: realizing now makes it traumatically worse.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Logan's father is telling us what he has learned now.
27:00
Speaker 2: The obvious is, mister Federico, that a crime victim. I
27:04
Speaker 2: am a crime victim. My fiance was murdered shortly before
27:07
Speaker 2: our wedding, and I thought I knew it all, mister Federico,
27:11
Speaker 2: until I had my children. I can't even begin to
27:16
Speaker 2: think about what you and your family are going through
27:21
Speaker 2: when you put all your love, all your love, all
27:24
Speaker 2: your time, all your energy, all your money, everything into
27:30
Speaker 2: this child. I remember my dad would get off work
27:35
Speaker 2: at the railroad long days, drive back in from out
27:38
Speaker 2: of town and come to my ball games where I
27:44
Speaker 2: was just a cheerleader. Right, I was a cheerleader. I
27:46
Speaker 2: wasn't even on the court playing. He never missed one,
27:51
Speaker 2: even the ones that were out of town.
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Speaker 1: My mom too. And when I think back.
27:57
Speaker 2: About all their money to send to college, all their
28:01
Speaker 2: money to fix our teeth, just and then just like that,
28:05
Speaker 2: it's all gone. How do you learn Logan did not
28:11
Speaker 2: die in her sleep the way they wanted us to
28:13
Speaker 2: think it. This sounds just like coburger for Pete's sake.
28:17
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, let's let's not bring him up. That's a
28:20
Speaker 13: tragic story, all honest, for those families and what they
28:25
Speaker 13: went through, and and in my opinion, they didn't get justice.
28:29
Speaker 13: He doesn't. He doesn't deserve to be an oxygen chief
28:32
Speaker 13: any longer. He should be put to death immediately, be
28:35
Speaker 13: honest with you. But you know, when we learned, unfortunately,
28:39
Speaker 13: I wasn't home. I was with some friends out on
28:41
Speaker 13: a golf course, you know, when it first happened. But
28:44
Speaker 13: when we learned a couple of weeks ago, we had
28:46
Speaker 13: a meeting with our attorney just to kind of get
28:47
Speaker 13: caught up on some stuff and see where we stood.
28:50
Speaker 13: We had him spoken for, you know, a couple weeks
28:53
Speaker 13: and which is normal, but we haven't heard from the
28:58
Speaker 13: the solicitor from that district, I think it's District five.
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Speaker 5: His name is Byron.
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Speaker 13: Haven't heard from that team since the day this pos
29:09
Speaker 13: had his first bond hearing in that area. You know,
29:11
Speaker 13: Dick was able to get a fifteen to twenty minute
29:14
Speaker 13: meeting with him where we kind of said what we
29:17
Speaker 13: what we thought should happen, and that that that justice
29:22
Speaker 13: has to fit the crime, you know, the punishment them
29:26
Speaker 13: stating everything's on the table. But again, just haven't heard
29:30
Speaker 13: from him. So obviously, Dick and I met a couple
29:33
Speaker 13: of weeks ago and just had filled me in on
29:36
Speaker 13: some other the details. And that's kind of when we found.
29:38
Speaker 1: Out what really who is Dick? Who is Dick?
29:42
Speaker 5: Let me understand that Dick's are.
29:44
Speaker 13: Our attorney that's representing Logan. To make sure that all
29:47
Speaker 13: the eyes gott get crossed. I had a friend reach
29:53
Speaker 13: out to me and said, hey, I think you need
29:55
Speaker 13: some representation here to make sure logan kind of gets you.
30:00
Speaker 13: And obviously I'm not an attorney, but do you know
30:04
Speaker 13: a few people. And this great guy reached out to
30:07
Speaker 13: me and gave me two names, and I reached out
30:09
Speaker 13: to Dick and he kind of let let you know,
30:13
Speaker 13: kind of right reached out to me right away and
30:16
Speaker 13: let's meet and let's talk about this. And as he
30:18
Speaker 13: investigated it, uh, he just found out that, look, they
30:23
Speaker 13: the key word here, Nancy really is access, you know.
30:27
Speaker 13: And it can be explained in a couple of different ways.
30:29
Speaker 13: One is the sheriff's department, which they admittedly already either
30:33
Speaker 13: shrewd up the fingerprints, either they forgot to take them,
30:40
Speaker 13: or they lost to them, or they were transferred in
30:42
Speaker 13: the proper way. They don't know, and they've admitted that.
30:45
Speaker 13: And the sheriff now I don't think was the sheriff
30:47
Speaker 13: back then, and he's been great. I've talked to him
30:49
Speaker 13: once maybe twice. Then to take a look at the
30:54
Speaker 13: sled department. You know, everybody in that county from one
30:59
Speaker 13: I understand and knew who Alexander Dickhea was. And it
31:03
Speaker 13: wasn't from him selling girl Scout cookies, I can tell
31:05
Speaker 13: you that. And it wasn't from him stealing nickel pieces
31:08
Speaker 13: of azuka from the convenience store. Okay, it was from
31:13
Speaker 13: his crimes that he committed since twenty thirteen. Okay, you know,
31:19
Speaker 13: then take a look at the solicitors, you know, he
31:23
Speaker 13: they want to take the two crimes that the fingerprints
31:27
Speaker 13: happen with, Let's throw those out.
31:29
Speaker 5: He is twenty two other felonies after the fact. That okay.
31:35
Speaker 13: So then in twenty twenty three, from what I understand,
31:38
Speaker 13: he goes and commits another arm robbery. Now, like I said,
31:42
Speaker 13: I'm not an attorney, but the last time I checked,
31:44
Speaker 13: when you're a felon and your call committee a crime
31:47
Speaker 13: with a weapon, that's a pretty serious effect.
31:50
Speaker 2: So what we have to really want, man, you know it,
31:53
Speaker 2: hold on, mister Ferderco. I want everyone to understand exactly
31:57
Speaker 2: who we're talking about. Not all those arrests, but twenty
32:02
Speaker 2: five felonies.
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Speaker 9: Listen, career criminal Alexander Dickey should not have been free
32:08
Speaker 9: at the time he is accused of murdering Logan Federico,
32:12
Speaker 9: with more than a decade of crimes behind him. Rick Hubbard,
32:15
Speaker 9: the Eleventh Circuit Solicitor, at least the blame on a
32:18
Speaker 9: clerical error.
32:19
Speaker 16: He's committed plenty of other crimes that were on his
32:22
Speaker 16: rap sheet that should have justified him being in jail
32:26
Speaker 16: at the time. Whether they missed a fingerprint or missed
32:28
Speaker 16: a charge on his rap sheet or whatever they call
32:31
Speaker 16: that thing. He shouldn't have been in the streets, no
32:34
Speaker 16: matter what.
32:35
Speaker 2: From our friends at Fitzneeze, A clerical error, whoa what
32:40
Speaker 2: twenty five clerical eras where they keep letting him out,
32:43
Speaker 2: letting him out, felony after felony after felony. Every prosecutor knows,
32:48
Speaker 2: every felony prosecutor knows that when a burglar comes in
32:52
Speaker 2: and they find a person, an aggravated assault or a
32:56
Speaker 2: murder can happen.
32:58
Speaker 1: So when you go it's just a it's not just
33:01
Speaker 1: a burglary, and any part with a gun.
33:04
Speaker 2: Needs to be stopped right then, no probation, no sweetheart
33:09
Speaker 2: deal when somebody's walking around with a gun. I want
33:12
Speaker 2: to get back to how you learned that Logan had
33:16
Speaker 2: been a victim.
33:17
Speaker 1: What happened?
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Speaker 13: Two officers had showed up in my house while my
33:21
Speaker 13: wife was making some lunch. I think she got back
33:23
Speaker 13: from shopping. She saw two officers walk across the front,
33:29
Speaker 13: Like I said, we knew where our son was. He
33:31
Speaker 13: was seven minutes away. We used like three sixty a lot,
33:33
Speaker 13: so we kind of knew where he was. And honestly,
33:38
Speaker 13: you know, they opened the door and and Melissa said,
33:41
Speaker 13: is it logan, And they basically said, you need to
33:43
Speaker 13: take a seat, and then they logan. Melissa called me
33:48
Speaker 13: I was out on a golf course about twenty minutes away.
33:52
Speaker 13: Obviously immediately left. It took about an hour and fifteen
33:56
Speaker 13: minutes to get home because the traffic, and really kind
33:58
Speaker 13: of just thought it was a and just a nightmare
34:02
Speaker 13: or something mistake. The hard part is, look, you have
34:07
Speaker 13: twenty te year old kids, right, you expect a party,
34:10
Speaker 13: they're at college, and you know, maybe something else happened.
34:15
Speaker 13: But when somebody tells you she was shot, that's a
34:19
Speaker 13: whole different ballgame. Then when you find out she was
34:21
Speaker 13: shot by somebody that's only thirty years old. Thirty years
34:26
Speaker 13: old and has been arrested thirty nine times. Okay, thirty
34:33
Speaker 13: years old, arrested thirty nine times, twenty five of them
34:38
Speaker 13: are felonies, and it's only done a little over six
34:42
Speaker 13: hundred days in jail. Now here's the other thing that
34:45
Speaker 13: most people don't know, and nobody will tell us.
34:49
Speaker 5: But I know the.
34:49
Speaker 13: Judicial system knows this. Within three years of getting released
34:53
Speaker 13: from prisons, most offenders are rearrested sixty six percent of
34:59
Speaker 13: the time. Within six years, it's about seventy three percent
35:03
Speaker 13: of the time. Within ten years, it's eighty three percent
35:06
Speaker 13: at a time with state prisons, within ten years, it's
35:10
Speaker 13: eighty three percent of the time. Some convicts and most
35:14
Speaker 13: that would tell me you can't rehabilitate them. There might
35:18
Speaker 13: be year one or two when unfortunately they're the ones
35:22
Speaker 13: that have to pay the price for the ones that can't.
35:24
Speaker 13: But here's a sad thing. We would never know that
35:27
Speaker 13: about Dickie because you never spent any time in jail,
35:31
Speaker 13: at least nothing significant.
35:32
Speaker 2: When you learned from the officers that showed up at
35:36
Speaker 2: your home that Logan was a murder victim, what were
35:42
Speaker 2: you told about what happened to her?
35:45
Speaker 5: Uh? You know.
35:46
Speaker 13: I had to make a phone call to one of
35:48
Speaker 13: the detectives that was on seen. I don't remember her name,
35:52
Speaker 13: but she filled me in with a few details and
35:54
Speaker 13: I was already short and sweet. It was not sweet,
35:56
Speaker 13: but it was short, saying, hey, your.
35:58
Speaker 2: Daughter was shot so let me understand, mister Federico. You
36:02
Speaker 2: call and the detective basically blurts out, your daughter's dead,
36:07
Speaker 2: your daughter was shot.
36:08
Speaker 1: Bam.
36:09
Speaker 5: That that particularly that particular officer.
36:11
Speaker 1: Yes, what did you do?
36:12
Speaker 2: Then?
36:13
Speaker 13: You know what that that set us for a loop.
36:16
Speaker 13: That was a total meltdown by my wife and myself.
36:20
Speaker 13: That is something that might be and probably is the
36:25
Speaker 13: most shocking thing one can hear. Uh, it's it's absolutely
36:30
Speaker 13: uh to.
36:32
Speaker 5: Hear that you're you're you're you're.
36:34
Speaker 13: Now the father of a murder victim. I mean that's
36:36
Speaker 13: how age, not proudly in a way, but that's how
36:40
Speaker 13: you introduce yourself. I mean, I still have two kids.
36:43
Speaker 5: You know, what's your daughter do?
36:44
Speaker 10: Uh?
36:45
Speaker 13: You know, unfortunately she was she's a murder victim. Murder
36:48
Speaker 13: victim from a crime that never had to happen, was
36:52
Speaker 13: a thousand percent.
36:53
Speaker 2: Preventable mister Federico. After the when the officers came to
36:58
Speaker 2: your home, which is every parent's worse nightmare, and you
37:01
Speaker 2: know immediately it's logan, what did that officer tell you
37:06
Speaker 2: and what if anything, did you do?
37:09
Speaker 13: There were like I said, I wasn't home. When I
37:11
Speaker 13: got home, there were two officers from our county, from
37:14
Speaker 13: Waxhaw where we live, which they were absolutely phenomenal. They
37:21
Speaker 13: stayed here as long as we needed them to, and
37:24
Speaker 13: be honestly, they both cried like we did, true human beings, fathers.
37:29
Speaker 13: I believe they actually Logan's reception volunteered to lead the
37:34
Speaker 13: perception to her celebration of life. But they stayed with us.
37:39
Speaker 13: They you know, they comfort us. They knew the news
37:42
Speaker 13: was brutal and it shook them to their core as well.
37:47
Speaker 13: To be perfectly honest with you, two of the finest
37:50
Speaker 13: gentlemen I could have possibly asked that, unfortunately give you
37:54
Speaker 13: that news.
37:54
Speaker 2: Have you been to the scene of the crime?
37:58
Speaker 5: You know what?
37:58
Speaker 13: Surprisingly, Noah had it. My plan is to visit the
38:04
Speaker 13: scene at some point. I just didn't see the point
38:09
Speaker 13: as of now, you know, I have.
38:11
Speaker 5: I have one minit.
38:12
Speaker 2: I'll tell you something, mister Federico.
38:16
Speaker 1: I've never gone.
38:19
Speaker 2: Back to where my fiance was murdered.
38:21
Speaker 1: Why.
38:22
Speaker 2: I don't want to because it's hard enough sometimes, especially
38:28
Speaker 2: in the years immediately following his murder, it's hard enough
38:31
Speaker 2: to put one foot in front of the other. But
38:34
Speaker 2: I fear now you know, I'm raising the twins if
38:37
Speaker 2: I were to go back there, it would throw me
38:39
Speaker 2: into a tail spin.
38:40
Speaker 1: And I don't know if I could get out of it.
38:43
Speaker 2: And you've got work to do, and if that would
38:45
Speaker 2: throw you off, then don't do it.
38:47
Speaker 13: It's got a cause now. And I'll tell you what
38:50
Speaker 13: there was for a loop was what when we actually
38:52
Speaker 13: found out what happened to Logan because we were were
38:56
Speaker 13: in the.
38:56
Speaker 5: Healing process, my wife, Melissa, and jacob Son, we're all
39:01
Speaker 5: doing it kind of our own way.
39:04
Speaker 13: And I know this sounds weird, but me getting out
39:06
Speaker 13: there and letting people know what happened to Logan and
39:10
Speaker 13: how preventable it is, that's my way. That's therapy for me.
39:16
Speaker 13: And going back to scene the crime, yeah, I think
39:19
Speaker 13: it's just going to set me back to where I
39:22
Speaker 13: don't want to be.
39:23
Speaker 1: I agree, I hear you.
39:25
Speaker 2: I need to find out more to see. When we
39:28
Speaker 2: first started investigating Logan's murder, we were told that she
39:35
Speaker 2: died in her sleep. See that's also what we were
39:38
Speaker 2: told in the Coburger case. And nothing could be further
39:42
Speaker 2: than the truth. What have you learned about what happened
39:47
Speaker 2: to your girl that night?
39:48
Speaker 13: You know, when you find out that your child, especially
39:53
Speaker 13: you know your daughter, she's twenty two years old, absolutely beautiful,
40:00
Speaker 13: obviously gets that from her mom. But when you hear
40:06
Speaker 13: that she was told to get on her knees while
40:08
Speaker 13: naked and put her hands up in front of her
40:13
Speaker 13: and for no reason he executed her. I mean she
40:17
Speaker 13: was five ft four weigh one hundred and fifteen pounds,
40:19
Speaker 13: I think, I mean, what was she going to do
40:21
Speaker 13: to this guy?
40:22
Speaker 5: Nothing?
40:23
Speaker 13: So, you know, and look when they found When we
40:26
Speaker 13: found out, it was still very early in the investigation,
40:30
Speaker 13: you know, and the officers kept me up to speed.
40:34
Speaker 13: It seemed like every hour. But you know, sometimes you
40:39
Speaker 13: do need the truth to kind of move on. So
40:41
Speaker 13: now I kind of know what happened with Logan. I
40:44
Speaker 13: kind of know where her mindset was. I do know
40:46
Speaker 13: she was probably calling for me, and I'd say probably
40:49
Speaker 13: begging for her life and calling for her mom and
40:52
Speaker 13: calling for her brother.
40:57
Speaker 5: You know, I.
41:02
Speaker 13: Could prepare yourself for that, but I had to know something.
41:10
Speaker 13: Not that her getting gunned down in her sleep would
41:13
Speaker 13: have been any better, But I'll tell you what, her
41:17
Speaker 13: being executed and knowing it is a lot worse. I mean,
41:24
Speaker 13: that's premeditated. The thirty nine crime just got committed. Who
41:27
Speaker 13: couldn't see that this wasn't going to get elevated, Who
41:31
Speaker 13: couldn't see that he was going to graduate? His career
41:35
Speaker 13: resume for his criminal activities should have justified in twenty fifteen,
41:42
Speaker 13: twenty sixteen, or twenty seventeen that he did fifteen to
41:46
Speaker 13: twenty five years in prison and then him and Logan
41:49
Speaker 13: never meet. Ever. The community down there should be up
41:55
Speaker 13: in arms. I wouldn't know how many other people like
42:00
Speaker 13: Alexander Dickey are on the streets.
42:03
Speaker 2: Think about that, Nancy, You saw the alleged killer in court.
42:10
Speaker 1: What happened?
42:11
Speaker 13: Well, luckily my wife grabbed my arm because I think
42:14
Speaker 13: if any father, I wanted to go over the rail,
42:18
Speaker 13: no doubt in my mind, love to have a few
42:21
Speaker 13: minutes with him, maybe even an hour. But all he
42:25
Speaker 13: said at the end of the end of his end
42:27
Speaker 13: of his little here and there, was get me back
42:29
Speaker 13: to jail. You know, no remorse, not a care in
42:33
Speaker 13: the world, you know, just his typical way of life.
42:37
Speaker 2: Tell me about your daughter.
42:40
Speaker 13: Ah, yeah, that's a good one. Just a beautiful, beautiful
42:46
Speaker 13: young lady with a smile and a laugh that would
42:50
Speaker 13: light up a room, brought joy to people and I've
42:56
Speaker 13: said this in the past, I'm gonna keep saying. She
42:58
Speaker 13: fought for the underdog.
43:00
Speaker 5: Nancy.
43:01
Speaker 13: She was that person in school, whether it was middle
43:05
Speaker 13: school or high school or whichever, that saw those people
43:09
Speaker 13: that didn't fit in and pulled them in to try
43:12
Speaker 13: to make them fit in. She wanted to help people.
43:15
Speaker 13: She wanted to be a teacher. She worked hard, She
43:18
Speaker 13: worked two jobs. She was a huge Philadelphia Eagles fan,
43:23
Speaker 13: one of the biggest. But she also loved traveling the
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Speaker 13: schools of visit her friends. That was her big thing.
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Speaker 7: You know.
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Speaker 13: She used to go to Clemson the visitor friend Ally,
43:31
Speaker 13: she used to go to University of UNC Charlotte to
43:36
Speaker 13: visit her friend Eric and all his friends. Then of
43:39
Speaker 13: course the University of South Carolina, an APT state. So
43:44
Speaker 13: she just she just was really kind of an easy
43:47
Speaker 13: person to develop a friendship with. You know, she was loyal.
43:53
Speaker 13: She was a loyal friend.
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Speaker 1: What did she want to do in life?
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Speaker 13: Yeah, she wanted to be a teacher. She finally figured
43:59
Speaker 13: it out like a light bulb one off, probably last
44:02
Speaker 13: year around this time, she was babysitting full time for
44:07
Speaker 13: our extra neighbors too little girls, and just that just
44:13
Speaker 13: to lit a light bulb in front of her that says,
44:15
Speaker 13: you know what, this is what I need to do,
44:18
Speaker 13: And right off the bat, everything changed. Grades, working hard,
44:23
Speaker 13: going to school all the time, had structure.
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Speaker 5: A couple of weeks, probably before.
44:29
Speaker 13: She passed, we'd come up with a game plan that
44:32
Speaker 13: the University of Charleston would be her next attempt to
44:35
Speaker 13: kind of finish her schooling for teaching. She loved Charleston.
44:39
Speaker 13: She had four or five really good friends there, so
44:43
Speaker 13: it wouldn't be a strange place for her. But she
44:47
Speaker 13: was set. And uh, and you can see if some
44:52
Speaker 13: of these pictures are making my heart melt. She just
44:56
Speaker 13: was the type of person that people really wanted to
44:58
Speaker 13: be around. She would have made difference. You know, we
45:01
Speaker 13: meet people in the world that make differences, and we
45:05
Speaker 13: lost a good one, and we lost a good one
45:08
Speaker 13: for absolutely zero reasons.
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Speaker 2: Your daughter an aspiring teacher. What grade did she want
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Speaker 2: to teach?
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Speaker 13: Probably first second grade? We're elementary preschool. She liked, she
45:21
Speaker 13: liked she liked bringing around the young kids and kind
45:24
Speaker 13: of being an influence. She wanted to shape them, all
45:26
Speaker 13: them to get ready for the later years of school.
45:30
Speaker 3: Authorities investigated the shooting death of twenty two year old
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Speaker 3: Logan Federico suspecting a career criminal behind the young girl's
45:37
Speaker 3: tragic death.
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Speaker 2: You're seeing pictures of Logan with her dad. Guys, this
45:46
Speaker 2: beautiful young girl, just absolutely beautiful on the inside and
45:51
Speaker 2: the out, wakened in her sleep near fraternity row by
45:58
Speaker 2: a career chrim. Now she's dead. Her father looking for answers.
46:05
Speaker 2: I understand that you became. I understand that you got
46:09
Speaker 2: evidence that her ATM card was being used.
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Speaker 13: Yes, that was kind of I think, part of the puzzle.
46:16
Speaker 13: You know, for some reason, we still had notifications set
46:21
Speaker 13: up for her accounts, and I guess sometime in that morning,
46:27
Speaker 13: five six in the morning, Melissa started getting emails about
46:31
Speaker 13: our account being overdrawn, and I think that really kind
46:34
Speaker 13: of started putting the couple of pieces of the puzzle together. Obviously,
46:40
Speaker 13: him using the card and other cards that he had
46:42
Speaker 13: stolen just just kind of just kind of put him
46:47
Speaker 13: everywhere he.
46:47
Speaker 5: Needed to be.
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Speaker 2: Mister Federica, what is your message tonight? And do you
46:52
Speaker 2: believe the state will seek the death penalty in this case?
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Speaker 13: You know, that's a tough question. We've had, Like I said,
47:01
Speaker 13: we've had no contact with him. Since May fifth. From
47:06
Speaker 13: what I read the research I do. No, they're not
47:09
Speaker 13: going to why From what I understand, he's never asked
47:16
Speaker 13: for the death penalty in any cases. He doesn't believe
47:19
Speaker 13: in the death penalty.
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Speaker 2: Understand Well, wait, what what the elected district attorney doesn't
47:27
Speaker 2: quote believe in the death penalty.
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Speaker 5: From what I.
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Speaker 13: Understand, and and my point to that is this, if
47:33
Speaker 13: you follow the law, Okay, he dots all the i's
47:37
Speaker 13: and crosses all the t's for this punishment, like this
47:42
Speaker 13: punishment fits the crime. This isn't one of those things
47:45
Speaker 13: where you're going to come to me and say, hey,
47:47
Speaker 13: he'll admit to the murder if if, if you let
47:51
Speaker 13: him live, No thanks, no deal. He deserves the death
47:58
Speaker 13: penalty because he took someone's life. He's not he can't
48:02
Speaker 13: be rehabilitated. He's proven that time and time again. These
48:08
Speaker 13: solicitors have lessened his charges, so he spent zero time
48:15
Speaker 13: in jail most of the time. And this is why
48:17
Speaker 13: we're at where we are. This is why he had
48:21
Speaker 13: access to my daughter. This is why it's not because
48:28
Speaker 13: my daughter was at University of South Carolina. It's because
48:32
Speaker 13: that piece was okay, and there's a reason why he
48:36
Speaker 13: was there. There's a reason why he has a gun,
48:41
Speaker 13: There's a reason why he had access. The keyword to
48:44
Speaker 13: this case is access, period. And there are many people
48:49
Speaker 13: in the Lexington area that are responsible for Logan's execution.
48:56
Speaker 13: They have blood on their hands. They just didn't pull
48:59
Speaker 13: the t but they gave him the opportunity to do so.
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Speaker 5: And that is it. Period.
49:06
Speaker 13: They could back it up all they want for the
49:09
Speaker 13: rest of their lives. They should feel guilty for the
49:12
Speaker 13: rest of their lives. This should haunt them, from the
49:16
Speaker 13: frat brothers to the owner of the gun, to the
49:19
Speaker 13: Sheriff's department, the freaking solicitors, the judges that all led
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Speaker 13: a career criminal on the streets that didn't have to
49:28
Speaker 13: be there and factually should not have been there. But
49:32
Speaker 13: you know what, you know what gets votes, Nancy, What
49:36
Speaker 13: gets votes are convictions. And you know what easy convictions
49:40
Speaker 13: are when you make a deal with somebody, that's what
49:43
Speaker 13: you call padding the numbers.
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Speaker 2: Mister Federica, what is your message tonight to other parents?
49:48
Speaker 13: You know what my message tonight is this Your kids
49:52
Speaker 13: have rights one to know who they live with in dormitories,
49:58
Speaker 13: in frat houses, and how this is that they rent
50:01
Speaker 13: through frats through not frats.
50:03
Speaker 5: If they're in a frat, they're.
50:04
Speaker 13: Renting houses that are privately owned, they're still frats.
50:10
Speaker 5: Okay.
50:11
Speaker 13: They have a right to know who has a gun
50:13
Speaker 13: in that house, and they have a right to back
50:16
Speaker 13: out of living in that house.
50:19
Speaker 5: They have rights.
50:21
Speaker 13: People knew he had a gun there and said nothing.
50:25
Speaker 13: Read your bylaws of the colleges that you go to
50:30
Speaker 13: the rules, the regulations, the code of conducts. You have
50:34
Speaker 13: rights not to be surrounded with people that can do
50:38
Speaker 13: you harm or not protect you from a gun that
50:42
Speaker 13: they own, and are not willing to protect people innocent
50:46
Speaker 13: people around them by showing it the proper way.
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Speaker 5: Period.
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Speaker 2: Mister Perrico, what is next in your investigation? Are you
50:58
Speaker 2: asking for the death penalty to be.
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Speaker 13: Nancy, there is no other thing. I'm not asking, you know,
51:05
Speaker 13: and I know it doesn't I don't have the final say.
51:08
Speaker 13: We're demanding Okay, we're demanding that he gets the death penalty. Okay,
51:14
Speaker 13: that's what he deserves. Now, we are law abiding people
51:19
Speaker 13: and we believe.
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Speaker 5: In the law.
51:20
Speaker 13: He gets what he gets. But at the end of
51:23
Speaker 13: the day, he has to first start out with the
51:26
Speaker 13: punishment that fits the crime. We want the death penalty.
51:30
Speaker 13: He deserves a death penalty. He's not getting any forgiveness
51:33
Speaker 13: from me, from my son Jacob, or from Melissa or
51:37
Speaker 13: any of her friends.
51:40
Speaker 5: No bleeding hearts here.
51:43
Speaker 13: And you know what, if they can't do it, let's
51:46
Speaker 13: find somebody that can.
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Speaker 5: I don't worry about.
51:50
Speaker 13: My conscience about putting him to death.
51:53
Speaker 5: Okay, I'll be there. I'll be there with bells on,
51:57
Speaker 5: my son will be there. It won't haunt me.
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Speaker 13: What haunts me is the fact that this piece of
52:04
Speaker 13: was out on the streets and didn't have to be
52:07
Speaker 13: and that I have to make these decisions. My family
52:11
Speaker 13: had to make decisions on where to lay my daughter
52:13
Speaker 13: to rest. Okay, she was visiting friends Nancy and didn't
52:19
Speaker 13: come home.
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Speaker 5: Think about that.
52:23
Speaker 13: This wasn't cancer, it wasn't a disease, it wasn't a
52:26
Speaker 13: car accident. This was an execution style murder that didn't
52:33
Speaker 13: have to happen. And if somebody's one more time says oops,
52:37
Speaker 13: we made a mistake. You're sorry your daughter is dead.
52:43
Speaker 13: Don't say that in front of me.
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Speaker 1: I agree with us.
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Speaker 2: Tonight is a Logan's father, Mister Federko, thank you for being.
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Speaker 13: With us my pleasure, Nancy, and again, thank you for
52:54
Speaker 13: taking the time to care about Logan and getting her
52:58
Speaker 13: story out there. It needs to be told, It needs
53:02
Speaker 13: to get.
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Speaker 5: Out there across the world.
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Speaker 13: This doesn't have to happen, and I can't let this
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Speaker 13: happen to anyone else.
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Speaker 2: I can't Nancy Gray signing off, goodbye friend,