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PODCAST: Episode 717 - Randy Dominguez on "The New Jersey Sound" Documentary and Music's Power w/ Metallica, Bon Jovi, etc. · Ghost Cult Magazine Podcast

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  We refer to it as a love letter to the Jersey musicians.
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  It's just so engaging. I can't tell you how many times
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  I watch it. Each time, you know, I pick up a
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  little different nugget which is really quite enjoyable to me.
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  And I think the audience the so far has been very respectful,
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  appreciative and thankful for what we were able to create.
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  What's up everybodyitskefi@ghostcultmag.com.
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  I am honored to be joined by Randy Dominguez, the creator of
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  the New Jersey Sound or the Jersey Sound documentary.
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  I should say that correctly, right?
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  That's correct. Typical of New Yorkers that just
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  get it wrong right out of the gate.
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  It's all good. Welcome and nice to meet you and
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  thank you for this film. Listen, it's my pleasure.
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  I have a passion for this film that we'll discuss during this
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  interview. I think, by the way, it's not
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  just me, it's my whole team. And if I could take a moment,
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  Monica Mason, who's the associate producer, Ryan Henry,
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  who is a monster editor, the guy had think about this.
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  We did almost 300 interviews, so about over 500 hours to watch.
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  It took him a long time and I said we originally were going to
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  be a 6th episode series. It just got too long in the
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  tooth. The director, Fulvio Sassetta
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  and I, we had some creative differences.
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  He started to go in a different direction and the bottom line is
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  I needed to come up with with some product to be able to start
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  selling. So Mark Bruder, my sales agent
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  from Bri out in the East Coast, I think he's based out of LA,
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  has been sending this around to a number of people.
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  We recently got a couple of months ago into Amazon can be
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  used there to be YouTube and there's some more that are on
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  their way, but it's through these.
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  Let me sorry, I have to mention Mark Mulch, who is my music
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  supervisor, who's also a musician in his own right, Mike
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  Greenblatt, who is the voice of the narrator.
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  He also is the editor for my website, thejerseysound.com.
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  It's it's, we're getting like over 40,000 hits a month and
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  we're increasing the number of emails because we come out with
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  a newsletter once a month. We're going to start doing it bi
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  weekly. But people seem to really be
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  engaged with that and it gives them updates on what's going on
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  in New Jersey. Mike writes an editorial on some
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  musician, whatever, whoever might be at the time.
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  We actually have a calendar that a lot of promoters reach out to
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  us to put their clients. So for the next two months you
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  can view who's playing and where in New Jersey, what special
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  events. So I'm I'm really very proud of
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  my team. This was a collaborative effort.
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  You know, I have to give kudos to Fool Wheels Ascetic, who was
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  the original creator and the director.
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  It's just his he started to go in a different direction.
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  That just was sort of against me.
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  But regardless of that, I, I am glad that you appreciate the
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  movie it was made. You know, we refer to it as a
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  love letter to the Jersey musicians.
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  And it's just so engaging. I can't tell you how many times
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  I watch it. Each time, you know, I pick up a
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  little different nugget, which is really quite enjoyable to me.
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  And I think the audience the so far has been very respectful,
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  appreciative and thankful for what we were able to create.
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  Right on. Thanks for sharing and unpacking
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  all that for us. And like I said, I definitely
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  sense that depth of love. You know, I love that I
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  mentioned offline here, I love the opening giving a little
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  business to my hometown, New York City and the little older
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  brother, little brother, baby cousin dynamic Jersey has always
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  had. I have spent a lot of time in my
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  formative years in New Jersey going to shows, going to
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  concerts. Not just obviously Giant
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  Stadium, the old Giant Stadium and the new Giant Stadium, not
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  just the old Brendan Byrne Arena or whatever it's called now
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  because I haven't been back in a while, but all the little clubs
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  and I bought, I used to go to Convention Hall for shows and I
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  used to go to Stone Pony and we used to go to Images and QXT.
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  So even for me a little later on, not the 70s and and early
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  80s, but for me in the 90s and the early aughts, it was a
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  foundational place. And you could really, I mean,
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  like we used to, I don't know, we we went down to like Birch
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  Hill nightclub and had a hit. Me and my partner who owns Ghost
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  Call, we had a hitchhike back from a show once because we
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  didn't know how to get back. We didn't plan to get home.
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  We just plan to get to the show. Yeah.
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  I mean, his, his child was like at a show in utero there.
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  Like, you know, it's one of his oldest son.
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  It's insane. Like a nine month pregnant chick
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  was at an anthrax show in 2002. So like, why were we doing this?
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  Why do we do this to ourselves? Because we love music, you know,
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  and and and I also want to say yeah, like I like that you
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  really show ran the gamut, not just genres and styles.
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  The musicologist and me. My heart was pumping for all the
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  all the jazz talk and the Blues talk and then and all the the
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  history of Asbury Park. That's well documented, but I
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  don't think that younger fans know it.
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  But I love the the depth of all the clubs, like every level of
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  type of venue was represented. It really meant a lot to me.
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  Well, what's interesting in my website, as I mentioned the
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  Jersey sound.com, we're, we're getting over 40,000 hits and the
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  dead end by the gentleman who runs my social media, Jason
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  Brickhorn. He's told me in the last meeting
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  we had that our demographic, the larger portion are really the 25
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  up to 45 year olds, maybe even going up to the 50s.
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  Which resonates well for me because some of the articles
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  that I've read into current day music that younger musicians or
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  musicians and viewers and listeners, I should say, are
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  actually really starting to resonate with the older music.
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  The music that I grew up with in the 60s with The Beatles and
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  Stones. And you go, you know, then you
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  get, uh, so many other club scenes that came in White Tiger,
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  uh, Trickster, I mean, there, it's just so much stuff that
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  happened the club scene and really the seven, the 74 to 80
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  three, I think it was when they had, they lowered the drinking
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  age and that really changes dynamic.
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  There were musicians groups that were playing in the club scene
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  and they prefer to play the club scene to go to a concert, play
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  at a concert because they made so much more money.
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  It, it, it was just insane. Unfortunately, that's when too
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  many fatal car accidents and the, you know, the group of
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  women for drunk against drunk Driving was created and they
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  were very influential. But we we try to touch base on
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  that. I was able to pick up a couple
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  of clips that from news stories that's really kind of tries to
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  identify that this happened, right?
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  This is not today. This is a different era.
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  More freedom in a way, because 18 year olds today don't have
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  the same freedoms that you and I had even up to the 90s that were
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  more, more parents were a little bit more palatable.
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  Right now things are changing. The boomer are now their
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  parents. Then they don't want to see
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  their kids deal with some of the stuff they did.
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  But you know that it's a lot to do with, I think the passion.
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  I think, you know, Southside Johnny said it best when when I
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  tried to describe the movie, You know, for my me and my team,
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  it's a love letter to the musicians of New Jersey.
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  We wanted to expand and share the, the experiences that I've
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  had to my team had and being able to interview these
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  individuals. You know, for instance, there
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  are more musicians per capita in New Jersey than in any other
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  state. It's not a fact that a lot of
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  people are, are aware of. They are New Jersey and you
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  mentioned this earlier, really transcended time and genre and,
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  and the, you know, you had new music that was created by Bruce
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  Bon Jovi, the Little Rascals. I mean, I, I can go on with the
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  list, but there are just amazing individuals.
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  But their whole thing is, and you and I, just about every
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  interview, what you gathered is a sense of attitude, you know,
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  towards, you know, basically a fuck you to the rest of the
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  world. We're New Jersey and we're going
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  to take care of each. Other right on.
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  Oh, I mean, yeah, there was. There was definitely a couple of
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  very memorable quotes in the first, like literally 15 minutes
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  of the of the doc. You know, New Jersey is always
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  getting shitted on by everybody. And I was like, I understand
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  that. I really get that vibe.
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  I know again, people don't, you know, New Yorkers are said to be
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  scrappy, but you know, Jersey is always the second, you know, the
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  second fiddle. But this shouldn't be.
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  And that's I think what the point of the film is.
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  And, umm, you know, I could listen to South Side Johnny talk
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  about music and why he does music forever.
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  And he said like, if I came from Long Island or Manhattan, maybe
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  I wouldn't be doing this, no matter how much I love music,
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  which I thought was really interesting.
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  I think there's a working class roots thing that transcends even
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  Bruce and little Steven and people like that.
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  I think there's again, I talked about the history of Asbury
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  Park, which is, you know, indelible in the in the fabric
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  of the history of New Jersey as a state.
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  But at the same time, like, yeah, I mean, obviously because
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  you, I mean, I can't believe that Springsteen is still out
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  here doing better than his whole career at 75.
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  Maybe like maybe peeking somehow again for the third or fourth or
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  fifth time in his career, like all the legends do.
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  Bon Jovi is as big now as ever. They have a huge box set coming
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  out for their biggest record this year.
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  You know, Southside Johnny, you know, the list goes on.
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  And and that and that's just like a portion of it.
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  I love that you really pay. You let every single, every
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  single artist, however small or big, shine.
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  Monster Magnet. Another personal favorite of
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  mine, Zack Wylde from Ozzy Osbourne and Black Label
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  Society, started in Jersey. Maybe he's, you know, sort of
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  identified as an LA Hells Angels kind of guy now, but he's a
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  Jersey boy. So, so many, so, so many artists
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  come from New Jersey. No, I and that was a difficult
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  thing because we had, as I mentioned, I think I mentioned
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  almost 300 interviews, which made it an editorial nightmare
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  in retrospect. But if we, you know, we needed
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  to get an opportunity to really get a cross section and decide,
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  by the way, it was very difficult.
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  We still have a lot of good work that we're looking to do another
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  episode once I get through getting this one set up
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  properly. And, and it's the whole, and I
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  mean, it was, it was Southside who's you phrase the term?
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  It's it's an attitude and I think that really resonates.
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  But one of the interesting stories actually interview,
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  sorry, with Steve Brown, who, by the way, was incredibly helpful
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  in helping us connect with a number of the musicians.
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  He was. He tells the story of how his
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  manager sent his group out to LA to record a record.
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  And when he came back, he said, you know, it started to realize
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  the difference. The people in LA all about what
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  can you do for me? Where in New Jersey is what can
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  I do for you? And he goes on to explain that
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  during the club scene days and even now, I think that a lot of
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  musicians work together. They would have a gig, finish
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  their their particular show and then run across 3-4 blocks to
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  see another group to support. It's, it's just that, that sort
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  of sense of family and, and pride that I, I, we were hoping
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  we could capture. And I think we did a, a pretty
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  decent job of being able to portray that to the public.
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  As an example, one of the things that I was concerned about is if
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  we're doing a documentary on the history of musicians of New
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  Jersey, how is that going to resonate with people in New
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  Mexico, California, Oregon, right?
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  This is not their bailiwick. They grow up on, on different
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  music. There's some musicians and
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  groups they'll relate to and especially that, you know, 25 to
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  45 demographic just doesn't have and and I think we were able to
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  capture that within 94 minutes. My editor, Ryan Henry, he's a
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  monster. He's done, he did a phenomenal
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  job it being able to piece all the pieces.
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  So that one of the things, and I want to mention this is
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  important, One of the things that the rector was able to do
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  because of COVID, or actually I should say because of COVID, we,
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  we didn't have a studio to interview people like.
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  So he would go and drive 2 hours, 2 1/2 hours down to South
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  Jersey. He connected with some of the
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  clubs and they were able to do the interviews there.
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  There is a number other galleries that they were able to
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  do interviews. So when you're looking at the
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  whole film, you start to see there are no cookie cookie
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  cutter type of scenarios You're you're getting every individual
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  has our attention and they they have to say they were absolutely
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  incredible in their responses. Very candid.
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  You know, whether it was drugs or other things that were
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  involved with it and during the period and the thing.
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  I just think that really resonates well with any
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  audiences across the board and not just the US.
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  We're looking to take this international to Europe, to
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  Latin America, England, and I think it'll go well.
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  Yeah, the realness comes across and as a person that does a lot
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  of these interviews, and I'm trying to do less, to be honest,
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  and spread the wealth around to my team just for the sake of
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  quality. It's so the interview part is so
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  hard, even if people are telling their life story they're
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  passionate about like Snake Sable of Skid Row, right?
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  It was a great a great segment or amazing to see the late John
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  Zazula for Megaforce Records. They're obviously an iconic
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  heavy metal guy in our genre here for us.
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  And you know who's it was always AI got to interview him.
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  He's a great interview. I interviewed Snake like a year
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  and a half ago. Great interview.
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  But that's the hardest part is the interview and to keep them
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  consistent. So I'm sure you got much more
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  footage than you needed. But to, to whittle it down, your
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  editor, your, your decision making as a producer, to whittle
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  it down to the essence is so hard.
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  I got it. I mean, I could speak for our
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  team. It's the same struggle.
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  So hats off, you know, metaphorically off my cap to you
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  because it is so hard. Thank you.
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  I appreciate that you noticed that, you know, it was a
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  combination of all the team members who participated.
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  Ryan obviously was the next test because he has the editor
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  putting together. But Mark Mulch, my music
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  supervisor, who's also a musician in his own right down
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  in Nashville. They all contributed to giving
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  some insight into the individual episodes.
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  And once we, once we finish the final draft, it was like a
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  nightmare because again, of all these names, it took us a week
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  just to create the list of, of thank yous and, and
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  acknowledgements because it was just, even though they weren't
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  in the movie, we wanted to acknowledge they were part of
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  it, you know, and you know, it's, it's difficult on a,
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  something of this massive scale. But I again, I think my team, I
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  think they did a really great job.
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  Absolutely. I again, I I guess I'm so pumped
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  out of curiosity, not anybody that was left out or coming in
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  the next version of this or sequel.
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  Was there someone you wanted that you couldn't get that you
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  can talk about like a like well? The obvious, yeah.
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  The obvious is our Bruce and Bon Jovi.
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  We tried very hard, but we had a sort of third person contact
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  with Bon Jovi and he was approached and he really just
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  said, you know, not at this time or wasn't interested.
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  But what we found out last year, actually I found out earlier in
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  the year through some of the connections, Bruce and Bon Jovi
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  were both going to do their own documentary.
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  So it would have been counterproductive for them to go
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  in even if they were only there for 30 seconds to to really
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  engage in that. I think we were very fortunate.
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  That's the sort of the negative side with the very fortunate
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  because we got South side and South Side I think really
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  encapsulates the essence of New Jersey and its music.
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  I'm sure that if you spoke with Bruce, Bon Jovi or any any of
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  the other big musicians and you talk to them about, you know
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  what, what did you think about the film or what do you think
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  about individuals? At some point in that
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  conversation, Southside's name is gonna come up and they're all
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  gonna say he was incredibly influential because of the way
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  he approached music, because of his passion.
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  Ironically, he's actually a relatively sort of shy guy.
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  He doesn't like the limenight a lot.
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  Ironic because he's on used to be on stage all the time, but
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  it's on personal life. He keeps it quiet.
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  So we were immensely thankful to him and to his team who were
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  great and working with us to try to create the best thing and
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  actually even helping us get some of the music that we want
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  that we wanted to play in the film.
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  Right. And I know music licensing like
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  a nightmare for permissions and things like that for major songs
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  and even some of the older things that are not yet in the
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  public domain. I also love, I just want to
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  mention that I love you just also have regular people fans,
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  actor Tony Darrow from Sopranos and Goodfellas, a bunch of a
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  bunch of music publicist that I'm personally acquainted with.
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  It was great to see Metal Maria in there.
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  Also the history of Metallica coming across the country to
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  really make it their their real first, you know, making it in
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  America to get out of the Bay Area and and before that LA to
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  come to New Jersey to make it like it's a huge thing.
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  You know, we have a mostly rock and metal site.
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  My music taste is much broader than that.
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  But you know, again, it's I'm so appreciative that these things
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  were pointed out and mentioned. But also at the same time,
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  there's a lot of hip hop history in New Jersey.
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  There's a lot of jazz history in New Jersey that can't be, you
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  know, overstated. So, you know, and of course,
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  Frank, you know, you can't mention Hoboken without Frank
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  Sinatra. I was, I'm, I'm lucky enough to
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  have seen Frank Sinatra in concerts.
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  It's one of the girls of my life, one of his last tours.
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  Everybody knows. One of my claims to fame is I
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  saw Frank Sinatra at Radio City Music Hall 11 on like a Tuesday,
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  and then I saw Slayer on a Thursday destroy Madison Square
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  Garden and they were banned for 10 years after that.
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  So that's I just came along at the right time.
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  I'm, I'm not super cool. I'm just old enough, you know?
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  I got you. I I feel the same way.
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  Do you? Do you have a favorite personal
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  New Jersey moment or musical story or favorite concert ever
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  from coming up in this scene? Bon Jovi really stands out when
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  when with a friend of mine, it was a couple of years ago and
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  his passion is connected, connecting to the audience.
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  I mean both and I'll say the same thing.
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  Bruce gives an incredible concert, but and both Bruce and
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  Bon Jovi are giving to their communities.
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  I think Bon Jovi holds a, a kitchen for people in need and
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  Bruce has got a number of other charities that he works with.
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  I, I, you know, I'm, I tend not to have a lot.
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  I grew up on the West side of Manhattan.
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  I was originally born in Cuba. I came over in November of 59.
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  So I grew up in Hell's Kitchen. That was a kind of different
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  invite, certainly different environment than New Jersey.
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  So I was, I didn't at that time pay a lot of attention because I
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  really was much more into rock, whether it was a new group or a
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  current group. That's what really fascinated.
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  But I moved, I got married. I moved to New Jersey in 1989.
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  And from there I, you know, I started, I was turned on by
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  people that we met about some of the Jersey musicians.
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  I started to play, you know, play more attention.
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  I mean, for me, growing up in the Sixties, 70s and 80s in New
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  York City and in Brooklyn, without the technology we have
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  now, you know, you were you were limited to the radio or maybe
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  MTV that that started to come in and that was your really way to
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  really recognize or, or, or or identify or or discover actually
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  is a better word discover music that you hadn't heard before.
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  You know, it's again, that shows the diversity of New Jersey as a
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  state, other centers, musical centers like Detroit for the
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  Motown or. Louisiana for New Orleans, New
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  Orleans is kind of unique, but it's Louisiana because the music
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  goes across the state. But New Orleans is known for
• 20:32
  Blues and Cajun music. I mean, we didn't have a city
• 20:36
  other than Ashbury Park, but Ashbury Park, it's only a part
• 20:39
  of the story. Totally fair.
• 20:40
  And yeah, I wanna say like, yeah, people don't like, if you
• 20:44
  remember Hoboken and Jersey City before they were gentrified,
• 20:47
  vastly different. Yeah, absolutely.
• 20:49
  Vastly different, but cool. I had great times at both places
• 20:52
  and I Newark, I used to come to Newark.
• 20:54
  And then obviously the last 15 years or 20 years of the
• 20:57
  revitalization of, of the downtown Newark with the arena
• 21:01
  and clubs and stuff, although some of the stuff traces back a
• 21:05
  little earlier. And, you know, I, I think we've
• 21:07
  overlooked things. I don't want to forget a chance
• 21:10
  to mention perhaps one of the most iconic, at least visually
• 21:13
  punk rock bands and musically is Misfits from Lodi.
• 21:16
  And then, you know, of course, a whole bunch of other things.
• 21:18
  I appreciate that you paid tribute to the Aquarium as a New
• 21:21
  Yorker. We used to get the Aquarium and
• 21:23
  read it and Daydream about like, I'm pretty sure that's how I
• 21:27
  discovered half the clubs to either go to as a fan or when I
• 21:31
  played in bands and I played in places that, you know, now, you
• 21:34
  know, you know, is OK for me to play CBG BS, but I really wanted
• 21:38
  to go to Jersey and make it in Jersey in Connecticut and
• 21:41
  Pennsylvania. So those are whole things and a
• 21:43
  bunch of other experiences. So I like that you paid tribute
• 21:46
  to those things. And you know, of course there's
• 21:48
  there's also like a college radio like SOUWSOU, Seton Hall
• 21:53
  Pirate Radio, which was very inspirational to us as well here
• 21:56
  in New York City. So, so many things to cover and
• 21:59
  like I said, it's challenging to do in an hour and 34 minutes,
• 22:02
  but you absolutely pulled it off.
• 22:04
  I'd love to see a sequel to this thing.
• 22:06
  I'm sure you'll be other kinds of releases.
• 22:08
  I watched it on Tubi. It's on Amazon like you
• 22:10
  mentioned. I'm definitely going to sign up
• 22:12
  for your newsletter. We'll link everything in the
• 22:14
  description where to follow you guys and have a support the best
• 22:17
  we can. I, I think the, the passion that
• 22:21
  we saw in the interviews that we did was a little difficult in
• 22:28
  trying to get that across. We didn't want it.
• 22:31
  You know, we had a little bit of narration.
• 22:33
  By the way, the narrator and the writer of the narration is Mike
• 22:36
  Greenblatt, who's the editor of my website.
• 22:39
  He was also the editor of the aquarium from the 70s, I think
• 22:43
  his 70s and 80s. So, you know, there is.
• 22:46
  And he lived in New Jersey at the time.
• 22:47
  So there's a much greater connection that allowed us and
• 22:51
  we've talked to the the current staff of the aquarium.
• 22:53
  They love the piece, they really appreciate it.
• 22:56
  You know, for me, it wasn't to do a talking heads kind of thing
• 23:02
  where you've got a bunch as many people as you want to put in
• 23:04
  there. We wanted to those individuals
• 23:07
  that spoke, give them a platform and the spotlight so they could
• 23:13
  get their message across, whether it was a funny story
• 23:15
  about drugs or a club they were in or some of their members or
• 23:20
  other members of other clubs. I think we created something.
• 23:25
  A side note, my sales agent, Mark Bruder, is currently trying
• 23:29
  to work with a deal with a company that creates CDs, even
• 23:35
  though they're somewhat antique, antiquated.
• 23:37
  But we're going to target the schools that have a music
• 23:42
  curriculum because I think if they want to talk about music in
• 23:46
  the US or even the world, but specifically in the US for a US
• 23:51
  university or high school, having this can really give
• 23:55
  people an opportunity to understand where they're, as I
• 23:58
  mentioned, where they're in California, New York, New Mexico
• 24:02
  or whatever. In the story, we talked a lot
• 24:04
  about different cities, right? Yes, Asbury Park, Hoboken,
• 24:09
  Hackensack there, there's so many of them.
• 24:12
  And if we were to mention a name, I think people would just
• 24:15
  have a tough time like going, oh, Hoboken.
• 24:17
  Well, whatever that is. You know, that kind of thing.
• 24:19
  I wanted them to understand that each of those cities were
• 24:23
  important, especially during the club scene hosting, you know, a
• 24:28
  large number of young individuals getting drunk, of
• 24:31
  course, and moving and moving forward.
• 24:33
  Their music And what, I don't remember which of the interviews
• 24:37
  was, but he said that I think it might have been White Tiger.
• 24:40
  He said that they made more money during the club scene era
• 24:44
  right then try to play concerts of gigs in New York or
• 24:48
  Pennsylvania or any other place. So whenever they got a call,
• 24:52
  hey, can you come in and and, and play for us?
• 24:55
  Oh yeah, 1 Dorama. It was like, yeah, absolutely no
• 24:57
  question about it. And the money that they made in
• 25:00
  those days was really good money in, in in that in those days
• 25:04
  dollars, you know, inflation, they would be they be paying a
• 25:07
  lot more. But obviously the drinking
• 25:09
  became such a huge issue. I think the Mothers Against
• 25:13
  Drunk Driving, which started a movement maybe in the late 70s
• 25:19
  if I recall, really made an impact.
• 25:21
  And I can disagree. We were losing too many of our
• 25:25
  kids and I think that the country as a whole eventually
• 25:29
  made the drinking age of 21 and I have no problem with that.
• 25:33
  Hey, you know, fair enough. And I definitely luckily had a
• 25:37
  couple of sober friends that were the designated drivers and
• 25:40
  allow me to party when, you know, I could not have been able
• 25:43
  to walk straight, let alone drive a car.
• 25:46
  But you know, like I said, this films a love letter to all of
• 25:50
  New Jersey, all of music. If you're whatever fan you are,
• 25:53
  if you're watching this in the sound of our voices and the side
• 25:56
  of our faces, if whatever kind of fan of music you are, this
• 25:59
  film has a little something for everybody, which I really
• 26:01
  appreciate. And like I said, it's done with
• 26:03
  such care and respect that you know, you can't help but love
• 26:06
  this thing. So I'm rooting for you.
• 26:08
  I'm rooting for this film, whatever your goals are.
• 26:11
  And I look forward to a sequel or a Part 2 someday.
• 26:14
  I think it would be amazing. Absolutely, Keith.
• 26:16
  We're, we're, we're in the process of marketing, you know,
• 26:20
  go on my website, my social media, I have a gentleman that
• 26:23
  handles this doing a great job because I mentioned Mike
• 26:25
  Greenblatt as the editor of the website.
• 26:27
  We're, you know, we're starting to get more and more hits.
• 26:30
  More people are leaving their emails because they love the
• 26:33
  newsletter that comes out monthly, which is going to
• 26:35
  change, I think in the next month or two into a bimonthly
• 26:39
  letter because people are are, you know, really appreciating
• 26:42
  and it's hard to do something just one day out of the month.
• 26:45
  So we're looking to enhance that experience for the viewer, the
• 26:49
  reader. All right.
• 26:50
  Well, Randy, once again, thank you so much for joining us
• 26:53
  today. I'm going to share all the links
• 26:54
  in the description where people can watch watch the film and
• 26:57
  connect with you. I'm going to sign up for the
• 26:58
  newsletter. Everybody out there should too.
• 27:00
  Thanks so much for this I. Appreciate.
• 27:01
  Thank you, Keith. I really appreciate your time.
• 27:04
  It's been a good interview. Have a safe and warm rest of of
• 27:08
  the year.