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Thursday MLB Slate, NFL HOF Game, Predictive Markets & More! · Best Betting Show Ever

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in, Happy Thursday. Can you believe it?
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Speaker 1: It's August the six, which means football is back, The
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Speaker 1: NFL is back. Hall of Fame game here tonight. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna break that down for you. We're gonna talk some
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Speaker 1: college football win totals, We'll have some NFL awards, market conversations,
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Speaker 1: predictive markets, parlay of the day, sharp bets. Enjoy the
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Speaker 1: last of the Pres free zone here, because yes, there
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Speaker 1: is a nasty room of going around art this caesar
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Speaker 1: that the Pres will somehow show up here tomorrow. I'm
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Speaker 1: still banking on eh, but if he does show up,
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Speaker 1: we might as well enjoy why we got what we
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Speaker 1: got going on here today, And what we've got is
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Speaker 1: football here tonight, which listen, are we gonna watch a
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Speaker 1: lot of that game? Likely not, but it's just gonna
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Speaker 1: be nice to be able to, you know, flip through
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Speaker 1: the channels and be like, oh, the NFL is back,
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Speaker 1: and that's exactly what it is. How did it go
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Speaker 1: on last night? For the books? Let's start their art?
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Speaker 1: Was it? Yankees loss? Dodgers lost again, So it must
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Speaker 1: have been a pretty good day for the books yesterday.
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Speaker 2: It's gotta be especially when people keep loading back up
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Speaker 2: on the Dodgers, right, I mean, they're on this losing streak,
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Speaker 2: and you know, people are just blind, especially the public,
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Speaker 2: to Dodger money, Dodger lines. They don't care, especially when
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Speaker 2: they're gonna throw them in parlays. But you mentioned it, Joe,
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Speaker 2: to have the NFL back, and just even if you
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Speaker 2: watch a half a quarter or a quarter to hear
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Speaker 2: the sounds of football back. This being the number one
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Speaker 2: thing on our rundown today, the NFL Hall of Fame game.
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Speaker 2: We're there, man, So it's really nice to have.
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Speaker 1: It, really truly is man. It's good to have some
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Speaker 1: football back. Yep. We had some day games yesterday in
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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. We got more day games one under
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Speaker 1: our way already, Art, I think with Baltimore and the Angels,
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Speaker 1: two teams going nowhere quickly. And I did the under
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Speaker 1: in this game here as well, so get away game.
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Speaker 1: By the way. Both teams are on their way out
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Speaker 1: the door as soon as this game is done, Art,
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Speaker 1: I believe the Angels are heading to Miami. I think
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Speaker 1: Baltimore is heading to Texas or vice versas, somewhere along
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Speaker 1: those lines. Either way, this game will take you about
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Speaker 1: an hour and ten minutes with guys swinging at everything
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Speaker 1: to get me the hell out of here. But let's
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Speaker 1: talk about the NFL game coming up here tonight. And listen,
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Speaker 1: don't get crazy. We mentioned it yesterday, right, I mean,
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Speaker 1: you got guys who bet preseason football. Most of the
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Speaker 1: guys that I know usually only jump in on the
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Speaker 1: second half because once they have a pretty good idea
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Speaker 1: on who the quarterbacks are and what the rotation is
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Speaker 1: going to be. Most of these games are always decided
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Speaker 1: in the second half, so it would be pretty good
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Speaker 1: to have an idea of who's under center when the
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Speaker 1: game matters and when the game has decided the most. Tonight,
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Speaker 1: Pickett is starting. I believe he's going to be your
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Speaker 1: starting quarterback for well, I can't even believe it for Carolina.
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Speaker 1: But then it's gonna be Haines King, former Georgia Tech
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Speaker 1: quarterback there. And then I believe we know Carson Beck
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Speaker 1: and Slovash there's gonna be the two quarterbacks for Arizona tonight.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what are we seeing in the market here.
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Speaker 1: We have seen actually some movement and some money coming in.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: When you get to like next week. With the preseason
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Speaker 2: numbers get up, they move quickly. This Hall of Fame
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Speaker 2: game has been up for months. Crazy, you know, it
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Speaker 2: feels like this market has been there for the last
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Speaker 2: two or three months. You know, Carolina minus one thirty
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Speaker 2: five total's gone down a little bit because that always
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Speaker 2: happens with these Hall of Fame games. But I will note,
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Speaker 2: like the last three or four have gone over what
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Speaker 2: this number is tonight at thirty five. We haven't had
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Speaker 2: a really low scoring one since twenty twenty one when
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Speaker 2: he had a sixteen to three game. So you know,
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Speaker 2: the old adages all these Hall of Fame games go on, well,
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Speaker 2: hasn't been the case these last couple of years. It
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Speaker 2: feels like there's a little bit of panther money, but
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Speaker 2: it's not overwhelming. You know, when you get to this,
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Speaker 2: you made a great point. Second half bets. Even people
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Speaker 2: who are going to maybe attack the end game market
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Speaker 2: on like a FanDuel or something like that, people are
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Speaker 2: gonna be able to attack it that way as well.
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Speaker 2: You're right, don't go crazy. Just because there's a football
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Speaker 2: game on tonight doesn't mean you need.
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Speaker 3: To bet it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, just for and again, don't look into a ton
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Speaker 1: of trends because, like Art said, for years, these games
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Speaker 1: were dead unders. Last couple of seasons, you had these
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Speaker 1: teams from the West Coast coming out the Chargers. Last year,
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Speaker 1: I believe we saw a ton of points with the
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Speaker 1: total hovering right around this number, I think, thirty two
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Speaker 1: thirty three, and it did end up going over Canalis
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Speaker 1: and the Panthers. And this is his third year now,
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Speaker 1: I think, and I think he's owned six against the
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Speaker 1: number in his first two preseasons, so not exactly what
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Speaker 1: I would consider to be a harbar esque Now, he's
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Speaker 1: a guy you want to bet in the in the preseason.
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Speaker 1: But I'll also say this, the Panthers have already lost
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Speaker 1: significant guys in the you know, leading up in camps
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Speaker 1: here to blown knees. One of their top wide receivers
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Speaker 1: already got hurt. So I'm not sure, you know a
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Speaker 1: how long is Pickett even going to be on the field,
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Speaker 1: because he's the legit backup right to Bryce Young for
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Speaker 1: Carolina and it's likely going to be the Haines Kings
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Speaker 1: show here in the second half of this game. But
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Speaker 1: how many guys is he going to really put in
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Speaker 1: harm's way in the Hall of Fame game in the
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Speaker 1: first preseason game, are given, he's already lost three starters
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Speaker 1: here on both sides of the ball to knee injuries.
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Speaker 1: Probably not much.
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Speaker 2: Here, right are It's a great point obviously, I mean,
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Speaker 2: they're gonna get the extra game. But you know, now
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Speaker 2: we have three preseason games basically for every team unless
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Speaker 2: you play in the Hall of Fame game.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, the whole point all.
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Speaker 2: These preseason evaluations is to get your team as healthy
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Speaker 2: as you can leading into Week one. And I mean, listen,
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Speaker 2: the Panthers are a team who are in a division
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Speaker 2: where they feel they can win that division again, they
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Speaker 2: can make the playoffs again. So they're a team who's
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Speaker 2: obviously gonna aspire to have a good, you know year
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Speaker 2: around a five hundred team, Whereas we all know, the
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Speaker 2: Cardinals are gonna have a lot of young players. They're
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Speaker 2: gonna throw a lot of people out there, probably try
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Speaker 2: to find out what they have because they're obviously slotted
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Speaker 2: to be one of the worst teams, if not the
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Speaker 2: worst team in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and keep in mind Carson back going for the
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Speaker 1: Cardinals here tonight. We already know who the two quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: are going to be this year for Arizona. So if
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Speaker 1: they keep a third, who knows. But this is really
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Speaker 1: an audition for a forty year old Carson back. How
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Speaker 1: long did he play in Collie play like twenty years
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Speaker 1: in college as well, But yeah, Gardner Minshi's already the backup.
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Speaker 1: We know that, so there's not a lot to decide. Nless,
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Speaker 1: of course, injuries come in, so guys Carson Beck and
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Speaker 1: Haines Gang are battling for showcasing themselves. Really, so that's
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Speaker 1: really what's gonna happen here tonight. No Love, I believe
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Speaker 1: he won't play. I think they've already ruled him out
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Speaker 1: as far as that goes for the Cardinals. So a
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Speaker 1: lot of offensive line battles. There are some good battles
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Speaker 1: here with guys trying to make the team for the
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Speaker 1: Cardinals tonight. But all in all, I would not be
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Speaker 1: expecting a whole lot of craziness here tonight at Art.
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Speaker 1: I know the last couple of games have gone over,
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Speaker 1: but man, the more I look at this, the two
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Speaker 1: more I think the defenses are gonna be way ahead
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Speaker 1: of the offenses here tonight in this when it's an
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Speaker 1: under for.
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Speaker 2: Me, I don't disagree. I think the only way I
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Speaker 2: could play the game is an under. I think we
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Speaker 2: are due for an under in this type of game,
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Speaker 2: and this time kind of feels like a seventeen to seven,
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Speaker 2: thirteen to ten type of game.
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Speaker 1: I agree big time there. All right, Good to talk
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Speaker 1: NFL though, because we have a game here tonight, sharp
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Speaker 1: bets here today, a lot of Major League Baseball, there
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Speaker 1: was a one or a couple of WNBA games. Don't
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Speaker 1: know if the shops are on any of that. A
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Speaker 1: CFL game, which is always fun. Uh, what are your thinking?
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Speaker 1: What are you hearing? Art sharp bets here tonight on
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Speaker 1: the card? What are you looking at?
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Speaker 2: I got two for Major League Baseball, We got money
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Speaker 2: on the Marlins, money on the Padres, And I'll just
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Speaker 2: mention this WNBA game. It's not sharp or anything, but
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Speaker 2: it feels like there's been two groups battling this aces
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Speaker 2: fever game. You know, one team will go to the
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Speaker 2: favorite is minus one and a half, one will go
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Speaker 2: back to the favorite. Now it goes back to pick them.
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Speaker 2: So it feels like they're battling this game. It's a
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Speaker 2: huge total. It totals in like the load in the
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Speaker 2: one nineties, like one ninety three something like that. So
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Speaker 2: obviously that's a huge matchup in the WNBA. But two
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Speaker 2: sharp plays Marlins, Padres.
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Speaker 1: Marlins and the Padres. All right, Parlay of the day.
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Speaker 1: Don't ask me what we said yesterday because I do
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Speaker 1: not remember, but I think we won. Let's just go
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Speaker 1: with we won, so we can carry that over here
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Speaker 1: to tonight's card. What do you did the Guardians win?
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Speaker 1: Or was that the night before? I can't remember, Joe.
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Speaker 2: The Guardians got screwed last night, and that was my
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Speaker 2: play in the parlay of the day. They were up
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Speaker 2: six or five in the ninth they had one out
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Speaker 2: to go or I'm sorry it was up five to
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Speaker 2: four in the ninth, one out to go. They gave
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Speaker 2: up the tying run, Mets winning and extras. I have
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Speaker 2: no words for the Guardian.
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Speaker 1: The Mets understand they sold like every They're not okay.
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Speaker 1: And Guardians, do you remember you bought a lot of
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Speaker 1: people like you mortgaged the future for a lot of
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Speaker 1: pieces and nothing, absolutely nothing. All right? Not great they are,
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Speaker 1: so we'll have to readjust although I think mine was
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Speaker 1: the Nationals and Phillies Oliver, which took nineteen innings, but
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Speaker 1: we ended up getting there too at fourteen runs. So
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Speaker 1: what are we thinking here tonight? Our parlay of the day,
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Speaker 1: you kick it off? Don't tell me, Guardians.
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Speaker 3: It's definitely not even listen another team to the Twins.
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Speaker 3: They want to be.
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Speaker 2: Biased at the deadline, and now they're in Kansas City
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Speaker 2: getting roughed up. So go figure with those two teams
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Speaker 2: in the American League. I'm gonna go to a game
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Speaker 2: that features Walker Buehler as the pitcher, so that means
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the over. Give me the over in
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Speaker 2: the Padres.
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Speaker 1: Game I did. That's a I don't hate that one
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Speaker 1: at all, to tell you the truth, and I'll tell
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Speaker 1: you what I'm gonna do too. I am not buying
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Speaker 1: that we should be laying three thirty three forty with
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Speaker 1: the Phillies, who just lost. We said last night in
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Speaker 1: extra inning. Still game amazing because Sanchez is going like
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Speaker 1: you do. The top five hitters in this Washington lineup
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Speaker 1: are I think over one ten WRC plus against left
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Speaker 1: handed pitt. It's yes, they lost a couple of key pieces,
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Speaker 1: but they've been a damn good offense all season long here,
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Speaker 1: even with the guys that are left. So call me
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Speaker 1: crazy here on I'll take the run and a half
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Speaker 1: and it's probably a pretty good price with Washington. Let
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Speaker 1: me see what the spare. Yeah plus one thirty, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm yeah, not trusting a three dollars price
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Speaker 1: with Sanchez, who, by the way, is getting lit up
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Speaker 1: by right handers and they got quite a few in
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Speaker 1: that Washington lineup they can throw at him. Strange price,
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Speaker 1: just absolutely strange. I did the doctors worth three dollar
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Speaker 1: favorite the other night, had that workout and it didn't
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Speaker 1: work out well for him yesterday either, by the way,
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Speaker 1: So predictive markets here, let's talk and because this was
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Speaker 1: the big storyline yesterday art in the predictive markets, the
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Speaker 1: MVP in the National League, he Crawl Armstrong actually overtook
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Speaker 1: Otani yesterday prior to that game going on in the
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Speaker 1: markets where he is now the favorite to win the
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Speaker 1: National League MVP, and both guys I think went three
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Speaker 1: for five. Both guys had a couple of home runs.
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Speaker 1: I'm comparing the numbers from a hitting perspective. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to tell the two guys apart.
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Speaker 1: They're bolt having tremendous years. Should the pitching come into
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Speaker 1: play here? Is there Otani fatigue? Art you think with
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Speaker 1: the with the MVP in the market.
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Speaker 2: It's a great question. I we have mentioned this, and
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Speaker 2: I feel like when we talked a couple of weeks
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Speaker 2: ago about this and we said, hey, otanis obviously should
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Speaker 2: still be the guy. You still have to factor in
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Speaker 2: the pitching. I understand he's not going to pitch anymore,
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Speaker 2: but those numbers still count. He still did them in
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Speaker 2: games that mattered, so you got to throw that in there.
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Speaker 2: But maybe we're gonna get to the point where the
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Speaker 2: voters say, hey, let's just compare them like we always
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Speaker 2: compare MVPs. What are they doing against each other offensively?
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Speaker 2: And they played each other yesterday and I guess Crow
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Speaker 2: kind of outperformed Otani even though Atani was pretty good.
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Speaker 2: It's crazy to think they're both like minus one ten
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Speaker 2: right now. It feels like all the value is back
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Speaker 2: on Otani because it's Otani. I mean, you know, and
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Speaker 2: Crow might win this MVP with not winning the division.
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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of things to unpack when you
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Speaker 2: look at that MVP.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a two horse race right now. I mean,
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Speaker 1: look at that fifty three and forty eight, forty nine
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Speaker 1: yet no, I mean Pete kraw Armstrong position player, of course,
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Speaker 1: not a DH The pitching should not come into any
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Speaker 1: of it. Art that should not even be up for
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Speaker 1: the conversation. But you notice something that's it. That's the
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Speaker 1: only guys we got here are these two right now.
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Speaker 1: It's a two horse race, and I do think it's
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Speaker 1: gonna come down to the end. It's gonna come down
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Speaker 1: to it, but I worry that we're gonna start seeing
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Speaker 1: a lot less of Otani on the mound. So it's
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Speaker 1: it's good. He's gonna have to Outsloug Armstrong, and I
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Speaker 1: don't think he can. I just don't think it's gonna
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Speaker 1: happen this year because I see them resting a lot
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Speaker 1: of guys come the end of September. There are and
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Speaker 1: Otani out of sight, out of mind. I think Pete
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Speaker 1: Krawenstrong is getting love for a reason. Guys having an
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Speaker 1: MVP year. Take Otani. Take the pitch at a it
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Speaker 1: Otani pre Karl Armstrong. It's not easily Otani right, No,
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Speaker 1: And I mean.
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Speaker 2: Obviously Crow plays a top tier defensive grun so that
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Speaker 2: always helps his war yep, So we know, you know,
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Speaker 2: war is a big factor and a lot of these things,
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Speaker 2: some voters just blindly bet on war.
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Speaker 3: And they don't even do the you know, they don't.
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Speaker 2: Even do the eye test, which is crazy. But I'm
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Speaker 2: not saying war is not a factor, because it is.
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Speaker 2: But that's obviously gonna bump up Pete Crow. And we
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Speaker 2: know Otani's a good base runner. Crows an elite base runner.
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Speaker 2: So all that factors in to once again his war.
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Speaker 2: You know, I guess the Cubs don't have to win
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Speaker 2: the division for him to win. I mean, usually you
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Speaker 2: would like that, but there's no way they're catching the Brewers.
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Speaker 2: So I mean, you know, you mean still.
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Speaker 1: In a battle. I mean they are, you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean, They're still in a battle. And they have
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Speaker 1: been phenomenal, you know, going back to July first, I
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Speaker 1: think their record has been crazy. There's not a lot
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Speaker 1: not to like here about what you've seen him from
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Speaker 1: the car. I don't like the pitching staff. I think
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Speaker 1: the Brewers have them there. But it's not like the
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Speaker 1: Brewers are nine games ahead of the Cops right now. No.
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Speaker 2: I listen, Joe, if the Cubs win that division, yes,
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Speaker 2: that means they might have the best record in the
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Speaker 2: National League. I think Picrow would be kind of a
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Speaker 2: runaway at that point.
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Speaker 1: I agree, Yep, I agree. I think there's yep, I
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Speaker 1: think there's opportunity there. But it's down to a two
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Speaker 1: arch race. And again we've talked about it in the
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Speaker 1: American League. Your Don Alvarez is winning. It's he's going
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Speaker 1: to get the triple, and there's no question about it
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Speaker 1: now there could you imagine two d H's winning the
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Speaker 1: MVPs Otani and you're Don Alvarez. What a game has changed?
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Speaker 1: We don't have any position players that are are MVPs.
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Speaker 1: You have to be a d H crazy. What is
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Speaker 1: a game change? All right? Art, Before we get to
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Speaker 1: our NFL Awards segment, we're going to talk about the
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Speaker 1: rookie defensive Rookie of the Year. We talked about offensively yesterday,
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Speaker 1: some of the guys that we liked in the market.
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Speaker 1: But we do have a little business here and who
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Speaker 1: doesn't love to see the president of Leotard before he
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Speaker 1: gets back here. So today, already one game underway here.
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Speaker 1: That was one of my top plays here today and
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Speaker 1: it's one nothing bottom of a second, No that's the
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati game. I'm sorry, but nothing nothing bottom of a
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Speaker 1: second Angels in Baltimore. I gave out the first five under.
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Speaker 1: It was five and a half in that one in
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Speaker 1: a getaway day. I'm pretty happy with that play. Right now,
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Speaker 1: I have a free play coming up in the Milwaukee
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Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh game. You can grab that on my page.
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Speaker 1: And I have one best bet tonight in Major League
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Speaker 1: Baseball up there as well. WT dot Buzz forward Slash
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Speaker 1: j R. All Right, I just I can't look at that.
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Speaker 1: Let me get a new picture up there? Are there
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Speaker 1: we got that was on for as long as it
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Speaker 1: was is disgusting. Cincinnati, by the way, won nothing over
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Speaker 1: against leg spot him in the second. So let's talk.
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Speaker 1: Here are NFL awards. We did talk offense. Now let's
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Speaker 1: talk defense because I believe it was was it Sweestinger,
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Speaker 1: the linebacker from the Browns right last year? That was
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Speaker 1: about a thirty or forty to one price I think
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Speaker 1: before the season started for the Rookie of the Year award.
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Speaker 1: I believe Abdul Carter was the favorite last year because
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Speaker 1: everyone it wasn't a great year for edge rushers and
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Speaker 1: those you know guys that would make a big Abdul
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Speaker 1: Carter was the guy everyone thought he was just he
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Speaker 1: was gonna be over the top. And then he asked,
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Speaker 1: if you know Lawrence Taylor, if he minds unretiring his number,
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Speaker 1: which I still to this day is maybe one of
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Speaker 1: the most least you know aware comments ever. But this
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Speaker 1: year is a little different here because you know, some
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Speaker 1: obscure guy down the board, a linebacker likely not going
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Speaker 1: to get it done. Why well, I mean, look at
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Speaker 1: what we've got going on here right now, right We've
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Speaker 1: got huge uh edgred this is a monster edge rushing
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Speaker 1: class coming out here art this year. Not to mention
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Speaker 1: you got Downs also could very well get into the
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Speaker 1: conversation here. This is not a simple all right, just
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Speaker 1: get me the guy that's gonna get the most set.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna have some. We're gonna have some some guys
18:31
Speaker 1: that are gonna be getting money. And the prices are
18:33
Speaker 1: pretty crazy across the board here.
18:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned that they're pass rushers galore, Reese and
18:40
Speaker 2: Bailey and Baine, and you mentioned Downs as a safety
18:43
Speaker 2: sunny styles who can be very versatile and do a
18:46
Speaker 2: lot of things. Yeah, I mean that guy on the
18:48
Speaker 2: Browns winning last year, I think I even saw him
18:50
Speaker 2: as high as maybe fifty or sixty.
18:52
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
18:52
Speaker 2: And for him to win the books, the books got
18:54
Speaker 2: killed on that, yes, you know. And this year, like
18:57
Speaker 2: you said, I mean, you look at a guy like Bane.
18:59
Speaker 2: I think he's the favorite. I think him and Bailey
19:01
Speaker 2: are kind of up there as almost co favorites at
19:03
Speaker 2: like nine to two, five to one. Listen, I'm always
19:06
Speaker 2: gonna throw a little love to my guy in the
19:08
Speaker 2: Giants reach at eight to one.
19:10
Speaker 3: I don't know. They have a lot of pass rushers
19:11
Speaker 3: on the Giants, so I don't.
19:12
Speaker 2: Know does he get as many opportunities because they're pretty
19:16
Speaker 2: stacked with those pass rushers, so he might be in
19:18
Speaker 2: like a rotation. The guy a little bit further down
19:20
Speaker 2: the board, who's actually Bain's teammate, plays on the Chargers, Mesidor.
19:25
Speaker 2: I like him fifteen to one, sixteen to one, and
19:28
Speaker 2: he's old. I don't know if he's he's twenty five
19:30
Speaker 2: years old. I don't know if he's going to be
19:32
Speaker 2: maybe physically and mentally intimidated by the NFL. He's coming
19:36
Speaker 2: in as a twenty five year old rookie and has
19:38
Speaker 2: some pass rushing skills, so I think value wise, I'm
19:41
Speaker 2: looking at Mesidor on the Chargers.
19:43
Speaker 1: I I don't think that's a bad look here, but
19:47
Speaker 1: I you know, take your pick here, Art, there's a
19:50
Speaker 1: lot and I mean a lot of opportunities here on
19:54
Speaker 1: the defensive side. And I think we're going to learn
19:57
Speaker 1: rather quickly. Did the did the Jets pick correctly? Did
20:02
Speaker 1: they make the right pick? Because I think, you know,
20:05
Speaker 1: being with the right defensive system, with the right coach,
20:09
Speaker 1: all of that good stuff there right, all of that matters, Art,
20:12
Speaker 1: does it not? I mean, who are we kidding? All
20:15
Speaker 1: of that matters there? I hope he is. I really do.
20:20
Speaker 1: I mean my biases, I want to go ahead and
20:22
Speaker 1: back them. But you, like you said, there's a couple
20:25
Speaker 1: of other guys that are very much alive here. I
20:28
Speaker 1: think it's going to be great to watch the defensive
20:31
Speaker 1: side of the ball on a lot of teams with
20:33
Speaker 1: a lot of these young guys. And it feels like
20:35
Speaker 1: last year was about the offense. This year, to me,
20:38
Speaker 1: it's all about the rookies on the defensive side of
20:41
Speaker 1: the ball that can truly change. I think what's gonna
20:44
Speaker 1: happen for some franchises and some teams here. Gotta go
20:49
Speaker 1: with my Jets. Man gotta be he's gotta make a difference.
20:52
Speaker 1: He's got the right coach, does he not sure?
20:56
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and they're gonna turn them loose, There's no doubt
20:58
Speaker 2: about it. Absolutely, say hey, go get ten sacks and
21:01
Speaker 2: if he gets in that double digit range, he's right
21:03
Speaker 2: there to win Rookie of the.
21:04
Speaker 1: Year, putting him in a position to be successful. And
21:07
Speaker 1: the Jets don't have a lot of wins, so they
21:11
Speaker 1: want to win something, so that means winning the draft.
21:14
Speaker 1: We go a long long way to saving some of
21:18
Speaker 1: those guys there. So I'm with you. I like a
21:21
Speaker 1: lot of different guys, and that market is going to change,
21:24
Speaker 1: I bet you aret as we get through the first
21:26
Speaker 1: month of the season. So lots still to be determined there.
21:30
Speaker 1: We also have some college football to go over, including
21:34
Speaker 1: another college football win total to give out. Here are
21:39
Speaker 1: interesting teams that we have decided upon here over the
21:42
Speaker 1: last couple of days. I love this one that you're
21:45
Speaker 1: about to lay out for us. Who is your college
21:49
Speaker 1: team and what is the win total we need to
21:51
Speaker 1: look at here.
21:52
Speaker 2: We're going to go and I wish it was me
21:54
Speaker 2: going on vacation here, but we're going to Hawaii. We're
21:57
Speaker 2: going to take the under, and the under is seven
21:59
Speaker 2: and a half. Now shop around though, because in Vegas
22:01
Speaker 2: at Boomers minus one oh five on the under. I've
22:04
Speaker 2: seen as high as minus one forty to the under,
22:07
Speaker 2: so always make sure you shop around. They're only returning
22:10
Speaker 2: four guys on offense, three on defense, and to me,
22:12
Speaker 2: the big thing is the defensive liability that they're going
22:15
Speaker 2: to have. They lost a lot of production off that defense.
22:17
Speaker 2: And then you got to go to the schedule. No
22:19
Speaker 2: FCS games, they don't play any gimmes for their opponents
22:23
Speaker 2: are off buys. They go on the road to two
22:26
Speaker 2: Power four teams, they have six home games instead of
22:29
Speaker 2: the seven.
22:29
Speaker 3: We know how good they are at home.
22:31
Speaker 2: And it just looks like they overperformed last year. Their
22:34
Speaker 2: win total was five and a half, they won eight games.
22:37
Speaker 2: Clearly overachieved, and now you're going to price them again
22:39
Speaker 2: at that number. To me, this is a six and
22:42
Speaker 2: six team. So give me the under seven and a
22:44
Speaker 2: half for Hawaii.
22:45
Speaker 1: Oh I like it. The under seven and a half
22:48
Speaker 1: for Hawaii. We should just have to go and watch
22:50
Speaker 1: a game now, and I think maybe that's exactly a
22:53
Speaker 1: way to talk. I have to send us out there
22:55
Speaker 1: to catch that ticket live and in person. All right,
23:00
Speaker 1: I like Hawaii, I'm gonna go to the ACC. Because
23:03
Speaker 1: speaking of Paynes King, tonight starting for the will play
23:10
Speaker 1: rather for the Carolina Panthers. He of course is coming
23:14
Speaker 1: from Georgia Tech, where it also felt like he played
23:17
Speaker 1: for nineteen years. Brent Key has done an amazing job
23:20
Speaker 1: for Georgia Tech over the years, and he's been there.
23:24
Speaker 1: I think this is his fourth year. There now three
23:27
Speaker 1: straight seasons where he's won at least seven or more games.
23:32
Speaker 1: This is going to be the fourth and Georgia Tech
23:35
Speaker 1: winning eight games does not happen here a lot. And boy,
23:41
Speaker 1: what a season it would have to be for Georgia
23:44
Speaker 1: Tech in order to be able to rattle off. They
23:47
Speaker 1: went nine to four last year. The win total is
23:51
Speaker 1: set at six and a half. History tells us Georgia
23:54
Speaker 1: Tech is not the school to have sustained success and
23:58
Speaker 1: it's not going to help Brent in Georgia Tech that
24:01
Speaker 1: they only have seven returning starters and just two of
24:04
Speaker 1: them are on the offense. Not to mention, look at
24:08
Speaker 1: a schedule art in the ACC. They have eleven games
24:12
Speaker 1: against Power four teams, including Colorado and Tennessee and non
24:17
Speaker 1: conference play. They do not avoid Miami NSMU. Oh, they
24:23
Speaker 1: do avoid I'm sorry Miami and SMU, but they get
24:26
Speaker 1: everybody else. In fact, they're gonna play six Bowl teams
24:30
Speaker 1: from a year ago in eight of the conference matchups.
24:33
Speaker 1: So now you're replacing both coordinators and the quarterback that
24:38
Speaker 1: has been there forever. I don't like their defense. I
24:42
Speaker 1: just don't see them. I think it's a step back
24:44
Speaker 1: year for Georgia Tech at six and a half wins. Art,
24:48
Speaker 1: I sorry, yeah, I don't they I think even Carolina
24:52
Speaker 1: and Belichick are gonna have more wins than you. How
24:55
Speaker 1: terrible is that? But yeah, I think it's an under
24:58
Speaker 1: for Georgia Tech for me this year. But you did
25:01
Speaker 1: give Carolina Haines King and we get to watch them tonight, Art,
25:04
Speaker 1: so there's always that.
25:07
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, John, I'm with you.
25:08
Speaker 2: Anytime you replace the guy who's been basically the face
25:10
Speaker 2: of your program for the last handful of years and
25:12
Speaker 2: hates King and.
25:13
Speaker 3: Highlight of success, it's hard to replace that, man, it
25:16
Speaker 3: really is.
25:16
Speaker 2: And you know you're not in the you're not in
25:18
Speaker 2: the sun Belt. I know, you know, the ACC is
25:20
Speaker 2: in the Big ten, but they.
25:22
Speaker 3: Still play pretty good football there.
25:23
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be tough for Jerg ThEC Yeah, I agree,
25:26
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a very tough season for them. All right,
25:29
Speaker 1: we've got Major League Baseball run down. Here are a
25:33
Speaker 1: lot of afternoon games, like we said, so we'll go
25:36
Speaker 1: round tamble. We'll start with the the later games coming
25:39
Speaker 1: up here. Why don't we go with the Tigers and
25:42
Speaker 1: the Mariners. Framber Valdez taking on Miller of the Mariners.
25:47
Speaker 1: Mariners got it done last night behind Brian who four
25:51
Speaker 1: to two. What do they do here today? With Framber
25:54
Speaker 1: on the mound there the Tigers? Did they bounce back?
25:57
Speaker 2: I never loved Framber, and I think all pitchers for
26:00
Speaker 2: the Mariners are always better at home. They're stilling a
26:03
Speaker 2: dog right here to win the West. Mariners need the game,
26:05
Speaker 2: so Mariners will win.
26:06
Speaker 3: To in a row.
26:07
Speaker 1: Don't hate that. Nats and the Phillies. I told you
26:10
Speaker 1: there's no way I'm laying three forty three point fifty
26:13
Speaker 1: with Sanchez and the Phillies here. Even against Miles Michelis
26:17
Speaker 1: feels like an over. That's kind of the way i'd look,
26:20
Speaker 1: but I do like that plus one and a half
26:22
Speaker 1: there Aret in this game, you want to lay the
26:25
Speaker 1: three fifty.
26:26
Speaker 2: There in a parlay, No chance, but you know it's
26:30
Speaker 2: going to be in every parlay.
26:31
Speaker 1: Every parlay. Yes, that's why books are in business. We
26:35
Speaker 1: know that White Sox Red Sox pretty good battle. Louis
26:38
Speaker 1: Castillo making his debut here for the White Sox. Ranger
26:43
Speaker 1: Suarez for the Red Sox. Red Sox blank the White
26:45
Speaker 1: Sox again yesterday for nothing, another sunny gray masterpiece. What
26:50
Speaker 1: do we get here in this one art?
26:53
Speaker 3: It's hard to go against the Red Sox.
26:54
Speaker 2: They never lose, but I do think the value tonight
26:57
Speaker 2: is on the White Sox. Castillo comes over in know
27:00
Speaker 2: these a lot of first start guys with their new
27:02
Speaker 2: teams have not been that great. But maybe the Red
27:05
Speaker 2: Sox prices are getting a little inflated now. Honestly, I
27:08
Speaker 2: would take a shot with the White.
27:09
Speaker 1: Sox Marlins at the braves here. Listen, Martin Prez has
27:13
Speaker 1: been phenomenal. I know the sharps are on Miami, but
27:17
Speaker 1: Martin Prez has been phenylal. And guess what Miami doesn't
27:21
Speaker 1: hit very well? There? Yeah, left handed pitching not good.
27:25
Speaker 1: I do think there is an opportunity here for Miami
27:29
Speaker 1: maybe to scrape out some runs. I just don't think
27:34
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen against Perez. I think it's gonna have
27:37
Speaker 1: to happen in the bullpen. Either which way, it's an
27:40
Speaker 1: under for me in this one. Here the Royals are
27:43
Speaker 1: about to sweep the Twins or are they walker against
27:47
Speaker 1: Bailey ober And by the way, Bobby with Jr. Is
27:50
Speaker 1: back here right.
27:53
Speaker 2: I mentioned this in the parlay of to day. The
27:55
Speaker 2: Twins who wanted to be buyers and didn't want to
27:57
Speaker 2: sell anyone. Now they're gonna lose games they have to
27:59
Speaker 2: like this is a must win today. You can't go
28:02
Speaker 2: into Kansas City and lose like that. And I think
28:04
Speaker 2: they go to Milwaukee next. They did go to play
28:07
Speaker 2: someone really tough neckt so they could be in a
28:09
Speaker 2: real bad stretcher.
28:10
Speaker 3: This is a must win for Minnesota.
28:12
Speaker 1: It is Padres and Diamondbacks late game there. Listen, they're
28:17
Speaker 1: five and four right now. Diamondbacks have won five of
28:21
Speaker 1: the nine games that these two teams have played. Get
28:24
Speaker 1: this art. They actually faced one another in the final
28:27
Speaker 1: series of the regular season. It's likely coming down between
28:31
Speaker 1: these two teams here. We know the Cubs are gonna
28:33
Speaker 1: get one, Phillies likely the other, so that third spot
28:37
Speaker 1: is gonna come down to I think these two teams here.
28:41
Speaker 1: So what gives tonight Walker Bueller against the rookie Drake.
28:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I already said I like the over the game,
28:47
Speaker 2: but you mentioned this is a huge series, a huge
28:49
Speaker 2: last game, and then we got the big series to
28:51
Speaker 2: end it, and I'm with you.
28:52
Speaker 3: It really is between these two teams.
28:54
Speaker 2: Unless you think the Cardinals can still hang around or
28:56
Speaker 2: the Marlins can still hang around.
28:58
Speaker 3: Which I don't see.
29:00
Speaker 2: I lean the Padres because I think they can bounce back,
29:02
Speaker 2: and it feels like it will come down to that
29:04
Speaker 2: last series of the year.
29:06
Speaker 1: I agree, It's exactly what it feels like. Art and
29:09
Speaker 1: there you got it, guys, All done. Good news Yankees.
29:13
Speaker 1: Apparently doctors have cleared for light workouts Aaron Judge. We'll
29:18
Speaker 1: see if we'll see when what that means timeframe wise,
29:22
Speaker 1: but the fact that he's allowed to at least do
29:25
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