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9/11 at 25: Where Were You and How the Country Changed, Plus a Pro-Life Safety Net · KSEV Mornings with Craig and Wayne

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  Speaker 1: A.S.E.V.
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  Speaker 2: Mornings with Craig Collins and Wayne Dolcefino.
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  Speaker 3: Did you say anything stupid?
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  Speaker 4: By anything stupid, I mean anything at all.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's crazy. Welcome to the Thunderdome, people.
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  Speaker 4: News, opinions, politics, and the stories that matter to Texans.
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  Speaker 1: I shaved for this?
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  Speaker 4: Here are your hosts, Craig Collins and Wayne Dolcefino.
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  Speaker 1: Remember, everyone, just don't be yourselves.
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  Speaker 3: On KSEV AM 700, The Voice of Texas.
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  Speaker 5: Yes!
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome! Ah!
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  Speaker 6: And now Craig Collins and Wayne Dolcefino.
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  Speaker 4: That's right. It is KSEV mornings. My name is Craig Collins.
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  Speaker 4: He is Wayne Dolcefino. Wayne, how are you doing today, buddy?
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  Speaker 7: I'm great.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning.
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  Speaker 4: Are you doing great? That's awesome. I am also doing great.
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  Speaker 4: Did you watch any of the Republican National Convention last night?
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  Speaker 1: I went to dinner with my daughter and her fiancé,
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  Speaker 1: but I did come home to hear part of President
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  Speaker 1: Trump's speech, which sounded eerily similar to the speech he
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  Speaker 1: made the night before. I was for a piece of advice,
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  Speaker 1: and I know he's the greatest president in the history
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  Speaker 1: of America, but I probably wouldn't have done two speeches.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I might have done, like, an opening, like, five, 10 minutes, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, welcome to the Thunderdome. We're going to kick
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  Speaker 1: the commies butts and gotten off. And then, and then,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because supposedly J.D. Vance was supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: the keynote speaker.
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  Speaker 8: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Last night.
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  Speaker 4: I think so. And then he bumped him.
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  Speaker 1: Normally the keynote, just another tip from my vast knowledge
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  Speaker 1: is that when you're the keynote speaker, you're supposed to
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  Speaker 1: go last.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But it's supposed to be the, The big.
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  Speaker 4: I guess the thing I would say, because I agree
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  Speaker 4: with you, that the biggest problem last night with speech
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  Speaker 4: number two is that it was too close to speech
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  Speaker 4: number one. If it had been like a totally different thing,
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  Speaker 4: maybe there's some way to argue that it makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Too close? What do you mean too close? It was
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  Speaker 1: like almost exactly the same words.
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  Speaker 4: It was pretty close. Although I would say that, again,
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  Speaker 4: he's Trump. He's President Trump. He decided to do this.
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  Speaker 4: He's the one who wanted to do the midterm convention.
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  Speaker 4: He likes the spotlight. I'm not, and I doubt you are,
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  Speaker 4: remotely surprised that he decided to close both nights. I
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  Speaker 4: just wish he would have riffed a little bit more,
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  Speaker 4: followed the script a little less, and maybe did less
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  Speaker 4: overall time on night number two. You don't have to
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  Speaker 4: do two hours twice.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I thought all in all, though, to be fair,
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  Speaker 1: it did accomplish, I think, what they were trying to accomplish.
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  Speaker 1: which was not to convince the haters, right, was to
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  Speaker 1: convince the base, right, the sort of loyal follow him
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  Speaker 1: into the fire kind of folk that they've got to
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  Speaker 1: get out even if he's not on the ballot. So
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  Speaker 1: I got that. The begging and pleading and bribing over
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  Speaker 1: the last few days, though, to me was, it's to me,
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  Speaker 1: it smacked a little bit of desperation.
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  Speaker 7: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: And this morning, of course, when I turned on, I
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  Speaker 1: woke up, turned on the TV, obviously thought about you.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder what my buddy Craig's doing this morning at
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  Speaker 1: five 30. And, but I, I turned on CNN and
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  Speaker 1: their lead was that the president was begging and pleading
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  Speaker 1: last night. And look, I, and I've said this before
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  Speaker 1: a lot. It was funnier the first night than the
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  Speaker 1: second night.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But, but he is, he is funny and he's, I
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  Speaker 1: always say he's kind of like the comedian that just
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  Speaker 1: goes too far, right? That, that there's a couple of
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  Speaker 1: real funny jokes and then he repeats it a lot.
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  Speaker 1: You notice he repeats the same thought two or three
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  Speaker 1: times because I guess he thinks, and I'm very similar
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  Speaker 1: in that respect to him that I, I sometimes feel
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  Speaker 1: the need to say something more than once because I
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  Speaker 1: want to make sure that there is no confusion that
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  Speaker 1: I said it. Look, There's a lot of things about
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  Speaker 1: him that are really funny and entertaining, and you have
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  Speaker 1: to have a sense of humor and be willing to
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  Speaker 1: understand trolling. I think even those of us who do, though,
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  Speaker 1: kind of just wish he would stick to the script
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  Speaker 1: a little more.
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  Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing. President Trump, to me, is the
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  Speaker 4: greatest running-for-office politician of my lifetime. If he is someone
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  Speaker 4: who's trying to get elected to something— The way in
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  Speaker 4: which he goes about it is perfection. And I think
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  Speaker 4: that those trolling moments work so well on the campaign trail.
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  Speaker 4: Once you get into the office of president, they have
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  Speaker 4: less value to the party. They might still have value
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  Speaker 4: to you. They might still have value to some of
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  Speaker 4: the supporters of you, as you're saying, Wayne. But the
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  Speaker 4: party itself wants a person at the top to be
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  Speaker 4: the guy that acts different. And you just can't put
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  Speaker 4: Trump in that box, I guess. But he's incredible if
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  Speaker 4: he's running for something. That's why he's incredible when he
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  Speaker 4: does conventions and when he does the big giant rallies.
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  Speaker 4: Those are his moments to shine. He just doesn't turn
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  Speaker 4: that person off during the years that he's in office.
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  Speaker 1: No, I think he feeds off the crowd.
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  Speaker 5: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: I get it. I've said things in speeches. I've gotten
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  Speaker 1: sued before, and somebody quotes a speech I made that
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  Speaker 1: somebody recorded, right, because they were trying to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: get me in some moment, you know, admitting some evil
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  Speaker 1: thing about myself. And you just got to be... Like
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  Speaker 1: I said, I get the humor. Right. I'm not sure...
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  Speaker 1: the vast majority of the country gets the humor. And
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  Speaker 1: even if they do get it, I think like anybody else, look,
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  Speaker 1: I've been in TV and radio in this town for
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  Speaker 1: 50 years, right? I'm sure there are people that like
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  Speaker 1: me back in the eighties who say, really, you're still,
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  Speaker 1: you're still talking. Would you shut up already? So I,
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  Speaker 1: I understand that you, that the longer you're around a scene,
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  Speaker 1: the less popular you become. And I understand people's frustrations,
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  Speaker 1: but all in all, things are okay. Although today, and
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  Speaker 1: I think we'll probably talk about this more after the break,
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  Speaker 1: but obviously you wake up this morning and the very
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  Speaker 1: first thing you are reminded of is that it's September 11th.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just one of those days where... Very much
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  Speaker 1: like Pearl Harbor, but very much one of those days
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  Speaker 1: where you remember, and I don't know about you, how
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  Speaker 1: many folks you knew up in New York around the towers,
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  Speaker 1: but my cousin, Anthony. Anthony Sharippa, another Italian guy, but
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Sharippa owned an architecture firm on the 21st floor
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  Speaker 1: of the World Trade Center. I think it was the
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  Speaker 1: South Tower. And they all got out. But he wandered
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  Speaker 1: around the streets of New York covered in dust and
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  Speaker 1: all shocked and confused and couldn't for hours even figure
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  Speaker 1: out how to call his because it wasn't, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a huge cell phone thing then. And so I remember
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  Speaker 1: him walking miles to my other cousin Dominic's apartment in
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  Speaker 1: New York. But it was hours and hours when nobody
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  Speaker 1: knew for sure whether or not he was alive. I've
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  Speaker 1: been out of New York long enough to where luckily he,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have anybody in there that didn't make it.
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  Speaker 1: But we were talking before we went on about just
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  Speaker 1: how weird it is, how much in many ways the
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  Speaker 1: country has changed from how unified it was after that event.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and the thing I think that we both mean
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  Speaker 4: when we use the word changed is, I think, and
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  Speaker 4: I'll speak for myself, but I think you'd agree with this, Wayne,
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  Speaker 4: We don't think that the country would come together again
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  Speaker 4: in the same way, even if we had a terrorist
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  Speaker 4: attack happen again, which is really, I think, significant to
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  Speaker 4: say that the separation between the parties and the way
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  Speaker 4: that people identify themselves with their political affiliation in today's world,
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  Speaker 4: it feels transformatively different in a very negative way. And
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  Speaker 4: I don't blame President Trump alone for that. I know
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  Speaker 4: that his rhetoric probably alienates people on the other side
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  Speaker 4: that definitely already hate him. But I do think that
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  Speaker 4: there's a lot of examples you could pull on both
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  Speaker 4: sides of things that essentially vilify the other people. And
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  Speaker 4: that makes it much less possible for America to come
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  Speaker 4: together as a country where we all can recognize we're
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  Speaker 4: on the same team. We're all Americans. It just it
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  Speaker 4: feels like we're at a place where, unfortunately, that lovely
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  Speaker 4: response to a horrible thing. probably would not happen the
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  Speaker 4: same way.
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  Speaker 10: No.
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  Speaker 1: And I also think that if the same thing, God forbid,
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  Speaker 1: happened again, that there would be far more people that
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  Speaker 1: blamed us.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Everybody on the other side would blame Republicans for it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. And I think part of that's the education system. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I think because we have in universities all over this
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  Speaker 1: country professors who teach our children really stupid things and
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  Speaker 1: make them believe that the oppressed are them.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right. That that when we have no interest in going
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  Speaker 1: up and blowing up their schools and and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it's partly Israel's fault to a certain
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  Speaker 1: degree because of the settlements.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what they say.
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  Speaker 1: Sort of the overreach.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I would also say that there's an obsession with media
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  Speaker 4: to blame a Trump supporter for a violent act. When
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  Speaker 4: when someone does something violent, they look into the history
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  Speaker 4: of this person obsessed with the idea that they're going
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  Speaker 4: to find out they're conservative. And when they discover that,
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  Speaker 4: it becomes a huge part of the reporting of a story.
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  Speaker 4: We see this all the time. This person who seems
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  Speaker 4: like they're MAGA. And then the opposite happens if they're
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  Speaker 4: a hardcore Democrat. They try to bury it or they
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  Speaker 4: say it's not really important to talk about affiliation. LGBTQ
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  Speaker 4: people that do horrible things, trans people that do horrible things.
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  Speaker 4: They try to bury. That part of the narrative. So
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  Speaker 4: I do think it's it's education and the way that
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  Speaker 4: certain people think, especially when they're younger. But I also
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  Speaker 4: think there's a societal conditioning that's been happening that sort
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  Speaker 4: of causes people to look for blame. I've talked about
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  Speaker 4: my college roommate's mom before on the show. So weird
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  Speaker 4: person to bring up. But she was such a nice person.
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  Speaker 4: That's this radical, crazy liberal on social media now. What's
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  Speaker 4: her name?
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  Speaker 1: I shouldn't do that.
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  Speaker 4: But I remember in college, like, she'd bring us cookies
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  Speaker 4: and stuff. Like, just so kind and just, like, so caring.
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  Speaker 4: And now she's insane on social media and, like, attacking
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  Speaker 4: the right all the time and saying how they're the
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  Speaker 4: devil incarnate. And I'm one of those people. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if she even knows that about me. I assume
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  Speaker 4: she does. But it's just kind of crazy to watch
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  Speaker 4: people be so much more angry and at the voters
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  Speaker 4: on the other side than I think they were years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think, look, we think they're crazy, right?
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  Speaker 1: Common sense over crazy, right? That we're the ones that
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  Speaker 1: have common sense and they're crazy. But they hate us
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  Speaker 1: in ways that I don't believe we hate them.
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I just think they're stupid. I think they're
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  Speaker 1: crazy people. And insane and somehow believe that they all
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  Speaker 1: have permission slips to, like, you know, be freaks. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And we're supposed to go, you know, okay, let's have
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  Speaker 1: special rights for the freaks. Right. Right?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we're supposed to make them feel better about
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  Speaker 1: them being freaks.
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  Speaker 4: I never hated the stupidest kid in class. I always
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  Speaker 4: thought the stupidest kid. I felt bad. OK, I hated him.
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  Speaker 4: All right. We got to take a break. A lot
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  Speaker 4: of stuff to talk about. The lieutenant governor did give
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  Speaker 4: a speech at the Republican National Convention yesterday. The way
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  Speaker 4: I think it was reported locally was that one of
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  Speaker 4: the first Texas politicians to speak. was Lieutenant Governor Dan
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  Speaker 4: Patrick today, or yesterday, excuse me. But I thought there
• 13:05
  Speaker 4: were some really great things that he put into his
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  Speaker 4: comments that he made. And honestly, other people yesterday did
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  Speaker 4: a good job. We might get to some of that audio.
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  Speaker 4: Who knows what we'll do? We'll definitely talk about 9-11
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  Speaker 4: a little bit more when we come back. Wayne Dolcefino,
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  Speaker 4: We are both from the East Coast originally, which I
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  Speaker 4: think sometimes the people in charge here have told us
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  Speaker 4: to stop mentioning.
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  Speaker 2: But.
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  Speaker 4: Why? I don't know. Because, like, Texas, everybody wants to
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  Speaker 4: be a Texan. I'm not going to.
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  Speaker 1: We're not like a trans-Ecuadoran illegal immigrant.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 1: We're... We moved here. Our families moved here because this
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  Speaker 1: is a great place to be and make money and
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  Speaker 1: live your life.
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  Speaker 4: It's the best state.
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  Speaker 1: And I was one of the first. I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 1: older than you, obviously. And I was like the first
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  Speaker 1: wave in the 60s, 68. Yeah. We were like the
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  Speaker 1: first wave of the Yankees. We were like the pilgrims.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That discovered. Texas.
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  Speaker 4: There were people here who called me a Yankee. Gary
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  Speaker 4: Elliott used to just call me the damn Yankee every
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  Speaker 4: time I'd walk in. Very nice guy.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: No, I love Gary. Let me say this, though. This
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  Speaker 4: is the reason I mentioned it. 9-11, I did know people,
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  Speaker 4: not that passed away, but people that were in the
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  Speaker 4: city on that day, people that are not as close
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  Speaker 4: in proximity to you. I didn't know anyone that was...
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  Speaker 4: There were two people in our family that should have
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  Speaker 4: been in the tower that weren't, which was kind of amazing.
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  Speaker 4: But nonetheless... I think there's something about having grown up
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  Speaker 4: around the Twin Towers.
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 4: And then watching them fall down on television. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know where you were. This will age me. I was
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  Speaker 4: taking a PSAT test. I was a sophomore in high school.
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  Speaker 4: So I was taking the preliminary version of the SAT
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  Speaker 4: a year before. And one of the guidance counselors, I
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  Speaker 4: was in Indiana at the time, knew that I was
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  Speaker 4: from Jersey. So he leaned over and he said to me, hey,
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  Speaker 4: the Twin Towers just fell down. And, like, the rest
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  Speaker 4: of the PSAT was screwed. He didn't even know that
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  Speaker 4: they were attacked, I think. I think he had just
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  Speaker 4: thought that, I don't know what happened.
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  Speaker 1: At first, the initial reports at first was that it
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  Speaker 1: was a small plane.
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  Speaker 4: Right, and an accident.
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  Speaker 1: At least that's the first thing I remember of that morning.
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  Speaker 1: I was traveling, like I always seem to be. So
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  Speaker 1: I think I was at an airport somewhere watching it.
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  Speaker 1: And I know that everything stopped and you couldn't go anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you that one of the stories my
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  Speaker 1: cousin always tells me is that they had an architecture
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  Speaker 1: firm and they were doing all kinds of really big
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  Speaker 1: projects around the country. And besides for the human tragedy,
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  Speaker 1: that 9-11 affected his firm for never recovered. in part
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  Speaker 1: because all their plans were in the vault, in the
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  Speaker 1: basement of the World Trade Center. So everything they had
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  Speaker 1: been working on, all the months and years of getting
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  Speaker 1: ready to do big projects, I mean really big projects,
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  Speaker 1: were all destroyed. And their company never recovered financially from
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  Speaker 1: the hit, which I know obviously is not near as
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  Speaker 1: horrible as somebody dying.
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  Speaker 7: But.
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  Speaker 1: it carried on and we don't often talk about the
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  Speaker 1: financial consequences of what happened. Had you ever been in
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  Speaker 1: the World Trade Center?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I had as a little kid. I had too.
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  Speaker 1: Not as a little kid. I'd been there as a
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: crazy wild guy. But look, I was really more shocked
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: and I'd be curious if we invite some of our
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: listeners to call in too this morning to To talk
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: about the change in the country since then.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the difference in ability to come together then versus
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: now after something that horrible.
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: 281.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Is that phone number. 281-558-5738 if you want to join
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: in and talk about even just your memories of 9-11.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: And actually, I will specifically ask veterans if they want
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: to call in and talk about it, too, because I
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: think the perspective of veterans always... adds an additional layer
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: to it. What else did you say?
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say, I think the separation
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: began very early on. I think all of us, except
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: for the few conspiracy freaks, we all were ready to
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: go kick some you-know-what.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: 100%. But I think the first big mistake was made
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: early on when we attacked and didn't get Osama bin
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Laden then, that we had opportunities to finish the job then,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: and we don't do it. In many ways, we make
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: the same mistakes. I think it's the mistake we made
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: in Iran. And I don't talk about doing it. I
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: talk about not finishing it. If you remember the first
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: battle there in Afghanistan, I don't remember where it was.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not a big, you know, Afghanistan geography guy. I'm
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: sure it was a desert with some rocks, right? because
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: that seems to be where we fight these people in
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: caves and who seem to, you know, because they're fanatics, right?
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: We're not. I think we should become some. I think
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: we should become fanatical.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: By the way, I think it's Mazar Sharif. Was the
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: Mazar E. Sharif or something? That's the city?
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: The fall of that city? Yeah, go ahead.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Remember that? And then we just didn't, we didn't finish it, right?
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Like we sort of hesitated. And I think it's all
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: part of the, the psychology of what's happened to us
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: even since Vietnam, right? Because we, we, we just, we,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: we've had some bad experiences in war because the reality
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: is some people we fight are, I said the word fanatics, right?
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: That they're religious nuts. And to them, they, they like
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: getting blown up, right? They like, they'll fly a plane
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: into a building. I mean, how many people, you know,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: that aren't, totally insane, are going to wake up in
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: the morning and say, I can't wait to go.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, the other thing that I find interesting
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: about what you're saying, too, is I think back then
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: after the attack on 9-11, it was much more likely
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: that everyone in America would acknowledge that they were radical freaks.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: And now you see this happen, whether it's the Hamas
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: group that is a literal terrorist group that is attacking
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Israel or You have people siding with them and siding
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: with them because I don't think they fully understand the message.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Like you and I have joked before about gays for
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: Hamas and how stupid that was because Hamas would kill
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: you if you were gay. And that's that's just one
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: of several groups that that acts that way, that people
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: here in our country now apparently don't seem to understand
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: or grasp the reality. They wouldn't be able to hang
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: out with these people they support because the people that
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: they support hate them. And we understood that better as
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: a country a few years ago, that there are a
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: lot of places that hate all of us. They don't
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: just hate some of us.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Well, you think about it like I was I was
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: at dinner last night with my with my daughter. And
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I it's no secret that I have a son that's,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: you know, conservative, very conservative. And I have a daughter
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: that's very liberal. She's a tick tock. She she streams.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: She's a tick tocker. And I get it.
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: But.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Her whole experience has been shaped either by school, although
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: she was a COVID kid, so she didn't really go there, right?
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: But it was shaped by this idea that Israel, by
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: turning Gaza into a parking lot, went too far. And
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: really all the Israelis did is the stuff that we
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: should do when someone messes with us and not be
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: so sympathetic to what we're blowing up. I mean, if
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Iran wanted us to teach them a lesson, let them
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: fire their 10 or 15 missiles or their 20 missiles
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: a day. We could hit 1,000 targets a day. We
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: could start carpet bombing. Look, I'm not advocating napalm, but.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Let's— Yeah, let's win the fight. If we're going to fight,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: let's win, and let's win quickly so that this— ends.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: I agree with you on that.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: And that's when people get frustrated, I think. And then
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: we sold this war in Iraq, and do I believe
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: that he may have had weapons of mass destruction and
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: shipped them all out in the two months we were
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: screwing around before we went in? Sure, I believe it's possible.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I also believe Saddam made the same mistake the Iranians did,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: is telling us that they had it, right, is daring us.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: And Iran did the same thing, right, by walking into
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: the negotiations saying, well, we have 11 bombs in two weeks.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Well, and also the Iranians had already been sanctioned multiple
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: times by the IAEA for not complying with any sort
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: of ability to be transparent and see if they did
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: have weapons or not. They were being purposefully noncompliant, which
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: would worry us. It would worry Israel. It would worry anyone.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: What's the reason that you're refusing certain, you know, reviews
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: of your material or your facilities? They also place a
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: bunch of fuselage things all over Iran, which is weird.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: They just they do the craziest stuff you could possibly
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: do as an organization that then may not actually have
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: a nuclear weapon, but they're trying to get close to one.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: I think the same thing was happening with Iran. They
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: were trying to be as deceptive as possible. And that
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: that worries us. But I do think you're right. Part
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: of that narrative was probably overly displayed to the American
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: people to justify a conflict we didn't need justification for.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: If you told us you were going after terrorists, that's
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: all we needed. We didn't need more at that point.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: You could have told us you're worried that there are
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: nuclear weapons somewhere, but I didn't care. Go get the terrorists.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: Wherever they are, go kill them.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Look, I also, as you know, was not a fan
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: of the way we did the Iran– fight by not
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: selling it, or at least attempting to sell it to
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: the American people. This was a regime, and maybe they
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: didn't want to say this, but this was a regime
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: that will never have been weaker than it was. After
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: we blew up their sites, after we took out their leadership,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: there was an opportunity to take out the Ayatollah, who
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: had been like up our butts for 20 years, killing
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: us and doing all kinds of stupid stuff and sponsoring terror.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: And it was a gamble, but I understand why the
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: gamble was taken. It was an opportunity to decapitate their
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: leadership in hopes that the people would then rise up
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: and go back out in the streets. The problem is
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like Tiananmen Square where there's some guy in
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: front of a tank, right? And they, And he's trying
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: to stop the tank as a show of, you know, opposition.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: That dissipated quickly. They had to kill 30 or 40,000 Iranians,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: like gun them down, move them down. And that kind
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: of trauma is hard for people to recover from. And
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: we probably should have started earlier trying to foment more,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: you know, opposition.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: And we didn't do it.
• 27:55
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• 27:58
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• 28:00
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• 28:02
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  Speaker 4: My name is Craig Collins. He is Wayne Dolcefino. We
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  Speaker 4: will chat with a guest now. She is the executive
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: director of Her Plan. It is America's pro-life safety net.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: Autumn Stevenson. Autumn, welcome to the show.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: Hi, thanks for inviting me on today.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Thrilled to have you on with us. Lots of questions,
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: but before we get into it, why don't you tell
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: us a little bit about the organization itself?
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: Sure. So her plan is really built off of the
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: idea that what women who are considering resorting to an
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: abortion need is a community of support around them, truly
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: a pro-life safety net, meaning local businesses, local churches, local individuals,
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: who are ready to wrap around them and meet the
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: unique and specific needs that moms who are pregnant or
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: have young children and are living in difficult circumstances really,
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: really need. So a response to the social safety net
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: that is much more local, much more private, and much
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: more personal.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Wayne, do you want to ask your question?
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Well, no. I was going to say I was looking
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: up the website last night, and it's actually a write-on
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: kind of thing. I think a lot of people who
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: get into this situation, especially young people, you know, like
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: their college boyfriend or high school boyfriend or whatever, just
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: are so feeling so much pressure. And that's really, I think,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: where the organization comes into play, right, is to sort
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: of show them the options and that there are people
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: out there who are willing to help if she makes
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: the right decision. Is that a fair way to describe
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: what you guys do?
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: Yes, exactly. So if you go to HerPlan.org, you will
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: see our resources and the concept of the pro-life safety net.
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: And really what we're demonstrating is that it is true.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: It is a reality that those abortion drugs are flowing
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: into states just like Texas. Liberal left-wing states are mailing
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: these drugs. to women who may or may not be pregnant.
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: May or may not even be women, and.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: They're giving those drugs to individuals who are then, like
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: the boyfriend you said, or the parents of the boyfriend,
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: or the supposedly well-meaning friend are like, here, I've got
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: these pills, just take these pills. And so it really
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: becomes a countercultural decision to choose life when all of
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: that pressure is facing them. And I think it's really
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: incumbent on us as pro-life Americans and as people of
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: faith to say, no, no, when you make that decision
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: for life, when you buck the culture, you buck Hollywood,
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: you buck the liberal media, and you say, nope, I
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: know it's going to be hard, but I'm going to
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: push through and I want to give this baby life,
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: then we have an opportunity to jump in and say, great,
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: I'm there for you. Let's address each one of those
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: barriers that you're facing one by one. Because the reality
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: is women who have abortions actually say that if they
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: had had the resources they need, 60% of them say
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: if they'd had the resources that they needed at the time,
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: they would not have chosen abortion. So we have a
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: chance to be involved in some pretty unusual ways, I'd
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: love to share, that you might not normally think of
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: to support those moms who courageously choose life.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and just real quickly, where does that stat come from?
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: Because I've heard that stat before, and you probably know this,
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: but how do you know that 60% of women who
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: chose abortion regret it? Yeah.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: So when you look at a recent study published by Dr.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: David Reardon in a journal called Curious, it is a
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: peer-reviewed journal. It is not a pro-life journal. It is
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: not a conservative journal. So it went through all of
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: that academic rigor that's necessary to demonstrate that It was
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: a well-produced study, and his research demonstrated that 60% of
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: those women said that they would have chosen differently if
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: they had had the financial and the emotional resources that
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: they needed at the time. And what that really demonstrates
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: is that women are believing that they're making the least
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: bad of all of their bad choices when they choose
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: an abortion, which is just false. The resources are there.
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: They don't need to resort to an abortion. But when
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: the circle around them, the boyfriend, the parents, the friends
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: are saying, you're going to ruin your life. You got
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: to take this pill. Just take this pill. That pressure
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: is really, really extreme. And so it gives us a
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: chance to get involved and say, nope, there's another way
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: and you can do it and you can thrive with
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: your child. You do not need to give up on
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: your hopes and dreams. You can pursue a future. without
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: resorting to an abortion and the traumatic experience, especially of
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: an abortion drug, where your home becomes the site of
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: your abortion.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you want to ask her another thing, Wayne.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: No, I think it's right. And I have a real quick,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: just personal story. My son, Anthony, as you know, maybe
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: you don't know, is a Mardi Gras baby. I met
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: my wife at Galveston Mardi Gras. We had too many
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: kamikazes and had a great time. And we made I
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: made my son, and I can't even imagine in a
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: million years having made a decision opposite. I mean, he's
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: now a lawyer in Austin. He's given me three. He's
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: going to be four grandkids in nine months. And I
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: just can't imagine none of that joy would have been
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: there if I had just decided to be a weasel boy, right,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: and try to pressure my kids. girlfriend who I knew
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: for like a week at that point, or two weeks,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: to not have our son. And I think a lot
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: of women need to hear what they will miss, what
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: they will lose by denying life and by their whole
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: life will change, but it will change in such great ways.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: And I think that's why these kind of groups are
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: exactly the right kind of groups, to try to talk
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: to people and show them that there are options that
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: they may not have considered.
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: You know, that's what a beautiful story to a man
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: stepping up, right? And being there for that fragile relationship
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: at the beginning and that unexpected outcome from Mardi Gras. And,
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: you know, one of the things that I really would
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: love to share with your audience is the opportunity for
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: men to be a part of the pro-life safety net.
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: So for our listeners out there who think, Oh, pregnancy support,
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: that's really a woman's thing. I just want to point
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: out that the majority of women who have abortions or
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: have chosen life but have struggled, the things they need
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: help with the most are housing, child care, transportation, and
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: mental health support. And transportation is a fantastic opportunity for
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: men to get involved and selflessly support moms who courageously
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: choose life through things like doing oil changes for moms,
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: if that's something that you're good at. If you have
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: an oil changer mechanic company and you want to serve
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: moms in the community, we've helped people. at churches put
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: on car maintenance days and take that cost of car
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: maintenance away for moms, which is so important to maintaining
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: a job and maintaining housing. So on our website, we
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: have a quiz that anyone can take that'll help you
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: find your place in the pro-life safety net. And then
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: there's a whole menu of ways to get involved, some
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: that might feel really unexpected. that you can choose from
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: and favorite and put on your list and pray about
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: and consider for ways that you could be a part
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: of that safety net for moms in your own community.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: And some of them are a bit surprising when we
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: start talking about cars or we start talking about maintaining
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: homes or legal support. So whatever your gifts are, they're
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: probably a gift that a mom in your community could
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: really use help and support for. And they may not
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: be the things that you would immediately think of. But
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: moms who are pregnant are thinking about all of those
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: things going on around them. The fact that their job
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: hangs in the balance, the fact that they can't get
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: the children they already have to daycare, the fact that
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: they don't have enough money to make ends meet. And
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: so the solution sits right within our own communities. And
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: all we have to do is step up and find
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: our place.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: How big is your organization? How many, you know, like
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: vendors and other connections have you made? out of curiosity?
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, great question. So we have over 8,000 listings on
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: our directory of services. So you can go onto our site,
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: you can peruse the directory, you can hone in on
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: your own community. We're always looking for more organizations and
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: businesses and individuals who want to step in and be
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: a part of the pro-life safety net in their community.
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: So that directory is 8,000 resources across 29 states. And
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: most of those are the pro-life conservative-leaning states that have
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: protected life. Those are the states that we are especially
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: involved in and very excited to get to be a
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: part of. So that's where we start. We have several
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: dozen resources and even more coming up on our website
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: for individuals to click on and get a step-by-step guide
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: to to the way in which they can start up
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: even more resources in their own community.
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: Sure.
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: We're almost out of time. I do want to ask
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: you one other question, though. I know you're a faith-based organization,
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: and I think another interesting stat that I've seen, and
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: you guys might have sent this to me, like four
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: in ten women that wind up having an abortion attend
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: church regularly around the time that that is happening in
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: their lives. How do you understand that from your purview?
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: You know, that's exactly right. Attending church at least monthly,
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: you know, I used to hear statistics that were, you know,
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: a high percentage of women are Christians. And I thought, well,
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: they must not be Christians who go to church regularly.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: But once a month is pretty regular in our culture today.
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: And so what they believe and what they think is
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: that people in the church are more likely to gossip
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: about them than help them. So the way to make
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: the church a welcoming place for moms who are in
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: crisis and they're silently in isolation, considering what their options are,
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: is for your church to be a hub of activity, supporting, loving,
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: embracing moms who have chosen life to demonstrate for that
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: mom who's looking around her and saying, what do they
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: do when someone's pregnant? What do they do when someone's
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: made life decisions that have led to a really, really
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: difficult situation? How does this church react? And if you're
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: demonstrating the church reacts with love and energy and support
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: and that's going to give her the courage to ask
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: for help and not to resort for that abortion pill.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what's amazing about that? I was raised
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: by a single mom. Me and my other three siblings were,
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: and the church was a huge conduit to support for
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: us in a lot of ways. I remember we used
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: to go get, like, clothes there or food there or
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: a lot of things early on before she wound up
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: in a better place professionally that made it easier. So
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: it's amazing to think that that could be a big solution.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: What else should we know before we let you go?
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: Places people can get involved? any sort of, you know, appearances,
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: you guys, what's going on?
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: Well, I absolutely love your example of food and clothing,
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: because that is one of our pathways, and our pathways
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: guide is that a church can be a place where
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: you have a baby pantry, where you have resources for
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: moms right there in the church who can come in
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: and they can get resources right there. It's a great
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: way to show love and respect. I would invite your
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: audience to go to herplan.org, so herplan.org, And click on
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: right across the top, you'll see a banner for taking
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: our quiz. Click on that quiz and take a 10-question
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: quiz that will start to point you in the direction
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: of where you might be able to step in with
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: your unique gifts and talents to support pregnant moms in
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: your own community. And I invite your audience to join
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: us in that. And we look forward to working with communities.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: And really, it's one by one, relationship to relationship. That
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: is how we change the culture.
• 42:36
  Speaker 7: Cool.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: Well, thank you very much. Anything else you want to
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: ask her, Wayne?
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: No, I just wanted to, aren't we going to a
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: conference soon?
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Texas Faith Fest, which I thought, Autumn, are you
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: a part of that? I thought you were connected to
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: that organization.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: We work with a number of organizations. That is not
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: one that I know that we will be at, but
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: I will definitely check it out. Sounds like somewhere where
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: we should be.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: Okay. Yeah, maybe some wires got crossed because we got
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: your information from someone who's also sending us people that
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: are promoting that conference that's coming up in Austin. But
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: thank you very much then, Autumn, for the time.
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: Well, it sounds fantastic.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like a great thing. We'll talk about
• 43:13
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• 43:15
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  Speaker 11: Hey.
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  Speaker 4: We are The Mob Guys. He is Wayne Dolcefano. I
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  Speaker 4: am Craig Collins. It is hard for, I think, you
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  Speaker 4: and I to mentally walk too far away from 9-11.
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  Speaker 4: on any anniversary, especially the 25th anniversary of that day.
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  Speaker 4: I think you were watching Fox during the break, and
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: they're doing a big thing commemorating or discussing it, remembering it,
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  Speaker 4: I should probably say. I don't know. There's a couple things,
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  Speaker 4: because one thing we were talking about earlier, and I'll
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  Speaker 4: call in if you'd like to talk about it, because
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: the world is different, and our country is different than
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: it was before and after 9-11. And unfortunately, it's not
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: for the better now. It was a much better place
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  Speaker 4: right after 9-11 because of the way we came together
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  Speaker 4: as a country. 281-558-5738 if you want to offer your
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  Speaker 4: of willingness to hear the other side's explanation for anything
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: has changed. What I mean by that now is We
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: had a caller call into the show a couple weeks
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: ago who quoted the Iranian government in what he said
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: they thought or they claimed was happening as far as
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: their proximity to a nuclear weapon. Why do we give
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: a crap what people like that say? And why don't
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: we care more about what we say and what our
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: intelligence believes? Why do we think that we're less likely
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: to be trustworthy than the enemies we have throughout the world?
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: I know that distrusting is a common thing.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Wayne.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, people just don't trust government, right?
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Because they have lied to them before.
• 48:28
  Speaker 7: Sure.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: And so they just don't believe them. Sure. And I
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: think more and more people are buying into this, which
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: is probably a true narrative, that really rich people have
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: a lot more influence than people who aren't, right? Who
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: are just living their lives and not controlling multi-billion dollar
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: corporations and stuff like that. I was thinking this morning...
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: if this is what's happened in 25 years since 9-11,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: can you imagine what it's going to be like in
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: this country 25 years from now? Don't you, like, really
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: freak out about the notion that... I talk to people,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: whether they work here, because I pretty much live here, right?
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: So I talk to my employees, sadly, more than anyone
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: else in my life. And I hear the... and I
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: hear my own daughter, I hear people that I love
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: dearly thinking so badly about us and I just don't
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: know 25 years from now I mean, are we going
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: to be living in Finland or something? I don't know.
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: What the hell. I can say one thing in response
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: to that because I'm a millennial. I'm a 40-year-old guy,
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: and I have a lot of friends that I think
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: fall into the bucket you just described of people that
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: aren't where they thought they'd be, say, in their lives financially,
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: that are now blaming people that are more successful than them.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: And I think part of it was growing up and
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: being told, if I go to college, if I do this,
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: if I do that, I'm going to be incredibly successful.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: And that not being true. And I don't blame the
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: people who told me that message. I blame my generation
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: for thinking it would just be given to us. The
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: other component that was missing in that message when it
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: was portrayed on like television as a after cartoon, you
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: can be anything you want to be sort of thing
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: is you got to work really freaking hard to get
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: to the places you most want to go. And that
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: was absent from a lot of the people now who
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: I think are also saying it's not fair. The rich
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: people of all the influence, I think they worked pretty
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: hard to gain that influence, and you probably didn't put
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: as much time in.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: When I went into TV, it was 1985. I was
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: successful in radio, but I'd never done TV. I was
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: working weekends and weekend nights, all that kind of stuff
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: you do. I used to spend most of my free
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: time working on stories that I wanted to do. without
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: any expectation that anyone said, hey, Wayne, go out and investigate,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: you know, Craig, and come back with a story. I
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  Speaker 1: would say, Craig is so boring. But seriously, I would
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: work on stories that I got tips on or that
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: I was interested in, and after I got it together,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: which was a long time of effort at the beginning
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: by myself, they said, All right. And then the next
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: time they said, Hey, why don't you work a couple
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: of days on this? Yeah. Right. People see people that
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: want to do more. And, you know, as a boss,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: I understand why they rewarded the efforts I made, especially
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: early on to carve a niche for myself. And I
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: didn't do it with the expectation that I was going
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: to be like a big star at local TV or something.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I did it because I, I gave a crap and
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: I wanted to expose certain things. And the more you
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: show that effort, and today, and again, I live in
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: a bubble here. This is why I live here. I'm
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: here all the time, right? And so I see my
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: people that they just don't want to work past 5 o'clock.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: They view it as taking away from their lives. And
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's going to be an impediment. to
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: people being successful.
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think wholeheartedly, because there's two things you
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: mentioned right there. First, and if I'm not going to
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: take the direct shot at your staff, but it's out there,
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: but like they would get paid to also work overtime.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: What you were talking about from your own experience, and
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: that feels very similar to some things I would do
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: early on in radio. I also had a full-time job
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: doing sales at like a Groupon, actually, and a couple
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: other places like it while I was trying to make
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: it in radio right after college. And you dedicate your
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: mind to something in a way that you want to
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: eventually have the capability of succeeding. If an opportunity comes,
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: you can't just expect an opportunity. So, like, I think
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: what we're both trying to say is that it's not
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: even just the people who'd be offered extra pay to
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: work overtime hours. It's the dedication to a craft that
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: does feel like it's missing from a vast majority of people.
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: The bump song is playing. We got about a minute
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: to go here. But a vast majority of people don't
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: seem to have the commitment to succeed in the way
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: that I think previous generations used to. They care much
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: more about if they're being treated fairly along that path.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, they just don't want to do it. Right.
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: Unless you pay them a bunch of money. And then
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: even then, I don't know if they'll do it as
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: well as they should.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: I offer overtime every day. I say no tax on overtime.
• 53:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 53:53
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: And you can.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Make more money. They just don't care.
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy. All right, that's the end of the
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: first hour. We are the Mob Guys, KSEV Radio. Hey,
• 54:02
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• 54:07
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