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🍊 RHOC Premiere: "The Big Blogger Bonanza" · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Drama, Darling Drama, Darling Drama, Darling.
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome in Darlings. It is a recap of
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: the premiere episode of the Real Housewives of Orange County.
• 0:31
  Speaker 3: And look at me over here if you can see
• 0:35
  Speaker 3: in the opening credits of the song I was decorating
• 0:39
  Speaker 3: for Orange County season. Sure tell us telling out the
• 0:43
  Speaker 3: Collette champagne bottle for my background. Thank you putting it forward.
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: It is. Yes, you brought it to the forefront, which
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: you should. Now for those of you, well, do we
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: even need to explain what Collette is? I mean, do we.
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: Go on?
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  Speaker 3: Amy, go on and tell the listeners.
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  Speaker 2: It's my champagne that I named after my daughter.
• 1:15
  Speaker 3: And it was lovely Heather. It's not still in production.
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: Right, I don't think so. There's no one was really
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: drinking up that call out, you know what I mean
• 1:29
  Speaker 2: for that to keep going. I don't think of that, right, No.
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  Speaker 3: And this is the bottle that we had when you
• 1:37
  Speaker 3: came on the Kiki Show. Oh, I'm just realizing that
• 1:43
  Speaker 3: when no way, that's when we first met Emily. This
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  Speaker 3: champagne bottle.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, you guys, yes, really, you know, before we get
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: into the ladies and their relationships. Let's talk about hours
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: because an organic situation. Yeah, Emily used to have a
• 2:04
  Speaker 2: podcast called The.
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  Speaker 3: Real Housewives Kiki Show with a friend of the pod
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  Speaker 3: of Drama Darling, Jessica Joy and also Mary Soon.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and I was a guest on the podcast because
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: I was friends with Mary Soon and I knew Jessica Joy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. This is one hundred years ago, by the.
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  Speaker 2: Way, Yes, of course.
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  Speaker 3: Uh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And so during that episode, you popped open that bottle
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: of yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Because we would we would like always like sample a
• 2:34
  Speaker 3: Housewife product when it would come out, we would get
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  Speaker 3: it and we would wow break it down.
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  Speaker 2: And so that just goes to show whenever that came
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  Speaker 2: out is how long ago we met.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's no way we could figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: By the We're not going to do it.
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  Speaker 3: We could not do it.
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  Speaker 2: We're not going to google it. What do we nuts?
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  Speaker 2: We got stuff to do here. We had to welcome
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  Speaker 2: ourselves in, well, welcome in. By the way, there was
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: a welcome in in this episode.
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  Speaker 3: I caught it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'll get it. I'll have to go back and
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  Speaker 2: record that because I did not get it. Yeah, was
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: it at Beach Bunny the bathing suit shop that Ryan
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: and Jen went to.
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  Speaker 3: Well, now here's the thing, great question, Amy, because you
• 3:20
  Speaker 3: were so hard to get your business on the show. Again,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know your business because you wasted time saying
• 3:26
  Speaker 3: welcome in instead of welcome to beach Bunny. I have
• 3:30
  Speaker 3: no idea where that welcome in was. And I don't
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  Speaker 3: know where they got their bathing suits.
• 3:34
  Speaker 2: I don't think they got them there. Emily really comes
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  Speaker 2: hard for the welcome ins. But I you know, I
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  Speaker 2: stand by. It's a lovely to have a welcome in.
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  Speaker 2: But she's saying you need to put when you're on
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  Speaker 2: a show, and you're right, you got to put your
• 3:50
  Speaker 2: business name in it. Welcome in to Beach Bunny. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we'll never forget now we got that nice static shot
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  Speaker 2: of it. But say you're say you're in something else.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, let's welcome ourselves into this Orange County recap
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  Speaker 2: yet again. Welcome tight. Okay, Well, Shannon has a new house.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what, Emily, I know you like the
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  Speaker 2: other one, but I just could not. The other one
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  Speaker 2: was very confusing to my brain. I couldn't with that.
• 4:20
  Speaker 2: It was just a little too nautically. I couldn't get
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  Speaker 2: a handle on the way that the layout was fell
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  Speaker 2: a little claustrophobic, and then that apartment that she was
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  Speaker 2: in or some condo she was renting.
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  Speaker 3: But now she's yes, it's nice everything. Yeah, everything's coming up, Shannon.
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  Speaker 3: This is her time to shine. This is her time
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  Speaker 3: to Shannon.
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  Speaker 2: It's my time to Shannon, it's my time to shine in.
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  Speaker 3: And they filmed this in January of twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 3: is when they started filming it. So I'm like, has
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  Speaker 3: she fully ended things with Earl? Is this post his
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  Speaker 3: trip to the OC where he overstayed as welcome.
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  Speaker 2: He overstayed his welcome in Yeah, I think absolutely. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, Emily, we didn't you didn't recap Miami with
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  Speaker 2: me this week, but I don't know if you'd seen it.
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  Speaker 2: But they were filming at the same time that Love
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  Speaker 2: Hotel was filming, so they had to deal with the
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  Speaker 2: hurricane as well.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, right, of course.
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  Speaker 2: Right, But they were fine in Miami, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: Earl's places weren't. So but everything's okay.
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  Speaker 3: They were all checking on Earl though. That's the weird thing.
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  Speaker 2: Even even Lisa like it was weird. Lisa and Jodi
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  Speaker 2: were like, we have to check on Earle, you know. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: So Shannon's got this new house. I'm very happy for her.
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  Speaker 2: Seems like her daughter Stella is really living her best
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  Speaker 2: life at these raves.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody's doing great except for David.
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  Speaker 2: It seems, oh my god, the Dealer and Leslie Badour
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  Speaker 2: are really in the thick of it. You know. Isn't
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  Speaker 2: it kind of nice though to see I mean, I
• 6:17
  Speaker 2: don't mean to wish well any I didn't me know
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  Speaker 2: like that. I meant, isn't it kind of nice to
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  Speaker 2: see Shannon out of a toxic relationship from the men
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  Speaker 2: that she's been with, you know, yes, John Jansen, and
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  Speaker 2: then you know, Earle wasn't the one for her, So
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  Speaker 2: she's out of that. But she had an experience and
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't that bad. It was kind of fun. She
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  Speaker 2: made a connection, she made a connection, and they closed
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  Speaker 2: it off right right, and really it went horribly wrong
• 6:50
  Speaker 2: at the end there. I mean horribly wrong. Like she
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: was crying on Love Hotel, like no doubt.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's like fifty to fifty. That is, she
• 6:58
  Speaker 3: was feeling her inner hood in that moment, and I'm
• 7:01
  Speaker 3: like in her hood of you know, I yeah, like
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  Speaker 3: she was just not able to land on a lot
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  Speaker 3: of logic, but it was fifty to fifty.
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  Speaker 2: Earl was also what you know, Yeah, yeah, it just
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  Speaker 2: it really blew up towards the end there. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad she's out of that. So it's just nice
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  Speaker 2: to see her with Archie and hopefully we'll get to
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  Speaker 2: see Archie's new puppy brother.
• 7:27
  Speaker 3: Oh right, looking.
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  Speaker 2: Forward to that. I hope we get to see it.
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  Speaker 2: But I digress. Katie and Shannon are at the BMW dealership. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: and it's for Katie, not Shannon. Shannon's not like I
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: got to get another car to get pulled.
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  Speaker 3: Over, and.
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  Speaker 2: She didn't like she just got pulled over. We just
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  Speaker 2: did the news the other day. But about her, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: distracted driving.
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  Speaker 3: Distracted twenty dollars citation which was is due today. Oh
• 8:00
  Speaker 3: my god, all her twenty dollars fine is due today.
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  Speaker 3: It's a I hope she got my calendar alert.
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  Speaker 2: I hope she did too.
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  Speaker 3: She's running out of time. This is ours are almost over.
• 8:12
  Speaker 3: Oh boy, oh boy.
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  Speaker 2: She's gonna go down there in person and be like,
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  Speaker 2: I am going to write a check. Who do I
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  Speaker 2: make this out to the Orange County Citation Department twenty
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  Speaker 2: spelled out dollars one zero zero over one hundred line
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: cursive Shannon storms be door.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, let me du screen grab it and post
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  Speaker 3: it on Instagram like she did the John Jansen.
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  Speaker 2: Good luck.
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  Speaker 3: There's something across have fun, That's what it was.
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  Speaker 2: Something like that.
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  Speaker 3: That's so funny that, yeah, I was somebody pay for
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  Speaker 3: John's wedding, and now I'm paying for someone's lunch Panera
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  Speaker 3: twenty dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's hilarious. Do you ever write checks anymore?
• 9:12
  Speaker 3: You weauzy? Do you ever write to Shannon? All the time?
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  Speaker 3: I write it's but I got a new stationary for
• 9:18
  Speaker 3: uh a casion. I would say once every two years,
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  Speaker 3: I have to write a check, if that, and it's
• 9:29
  Speaker 3: always for something that I could have worked a Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know if it's that. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: I've written a check in three years, because now I
• 9:39
  Speaker 3: use the auto check thing through my bank, so you
• 9:42
  Speaker 3: can send a check electronically, so it's not even like
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  Speaker 3: I'm writing a check yet.
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  Speaker 2: Oh right, like like the bill pay you mean yeah right,
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: oh bill pay? Yeah, okay, yeah yeah I thought you no.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, they will mail the check. They will mail
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  Speaker 3: a paper check.
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  Speaker 2: You write, Okay, yes, I used to do that for
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: my old rental. That's right. I used to do that
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  Speaker 2: for the rental. Yeah, because they were like, no, we
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: have to have a check. I forgot about that option.
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  Speaker 2: That's so interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't think I've done that in three
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  Speaker 3: years even that, like I so.
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, I don't use that anymore. Clearly forgot that
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: anything existed. But I have written a check at times.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember where. But it is wild that I
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: still every once in a while get a random thing
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: where they're like, no, we need a check, and I'm like, weird,
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  Speaker 2: like why you know? But I guess it's just sometimes
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: it is what it is. And it's weird for me
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: to not write in cursive because that's how I was taught,
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, eight hundred so back in my day.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you learn cursive and you write your checks incursive.
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  Speaker 2: And it just dawned on me, you know, within the
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  Speaker 2: last twenty years. Like some people print, they print on
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  Speaker 2: their checks, like they just use regular print. They're not cursive.
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: It up animals, I know.
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  Speaker 3: That's such in a like a weird like highbrow, Like
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: I don't even know if it's high brow. It's just no,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is you print on your
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  Speaker 3: handwritten checks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I feel like I was, like, where
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: was I born in the eighteen hundreds that I can't
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  Speaker 2: wrap my head around it, you know, even still to
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  Speaker 2: this day. So when I do write a check, now,
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  Speaker 2: I don't write in cursive because I'm like everyone else
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  Speaker 2: is just printing.
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  Speaker 3: On my kid.
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  Speaker 2: I guess I gotta be with the cool guns and
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  Speaker 2: write a check the way they do.
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  Speaker 3: The other grandma's.
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the grandma's glamas, thank you. I'm not a glama guys. Okay,
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: So anyway, we're at the we're at the dealership. But yeah,
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: so but what Shannon talking about how she settled with
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: John Jansen for sixty K because she just wanted them
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: out of her hair. Was a nice button on it,
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, it's nice to close the door.
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: It just sucks she had to pay him that amount
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  Speaker 2: of money. It just sucks.
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: It sucks. I don't get it. I feel like every yeah,
• 12:11
  Speaker 3: it's just so unfortunate, but it is what it is. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: And I guess like she all needs to better than
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: what's that that we all need to move on as
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: a nation. Yeah, she paid the price for all of us,
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: and we were all willing to pay a hundred grand
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: actually to get him out. So this is a good
• 12:30
  Speaker 3: deal for Shannon and a good deal.
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: We had a GoFundMe going.
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  Speaker 3: And all the money we raised now can almost cover
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: her fine of twenty dollars.
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: Oh almost, and maybe a drink at Stella's Rave maybe.
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: And then oh, I love how Shannon was like, can
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: can you put some time air in my tires?
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  Speaker 4: I need airs as long as I'm here because it
• 13:03
  Speaker 4: is kind of a pain in the asta because you
• 13:04
  Speaker 4: got to get that like special hydrogen or whatever.
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, you know that special air.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, but I mean, Shannon, even if even if they
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  Speaker 3: didn't have it there, Shannon would be requesting it there.
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  Speaker 3: She would be She's like requesting. She's kind of like
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  Speaker 3: she just pulls up and starts requesting.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, can you put jewels in my tires? You have
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: jewels in my teeth?
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, what did she say or dead teeth on love hotel?
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: Oh that's hilarious, that's right. She said something really dark
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: holes in my Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. The roots,
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: and the roots are just dark, dark and uh grotesque
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: or something along the lines.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you didn't see it, this is Shannon flirting
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  Speaker 3: with a dentist.
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  Speaker 2: I I see a dentist all the time. I have
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: root canals that have you know, they're not like the
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: venice canals that are beautiful. No, mine are dark. And
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: it's like Willy walk on the chocolate factory when you
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: go when he goes through that thing and the worms
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  Speaker 2: and the caterpillars and the spiders.
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: Have you ever heard of the upside down and stranger things?
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: Those are the dead roots hanging down in my dark,
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: decaying face. Cool? Do you want to make out?
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: Get alo of this? Oh my god, this whole episode
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  Speaker 2: was so rought and just crawling with bloggers and social
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  Speaker 2: medias and podcasters that I can't even see straight with
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: what happened here, with the amount of people that have
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: gotten their hooks. The housewives give social media people so
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: much power on this show that it's absolutely infuriating. What
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: are you doing?
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they caught the Salt Lake City virus. Yes, it's it.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't think that I think that they all
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  Speaker 3: all the wives think that they are operating on a
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  Speaker 3: different plane than the rest of the cast, and that
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  Speaker 3: they're the special one that's going to be able to
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  Speaker 3: like manipulate and control the narrative on the outside. And
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: they're you know, be friends with the quote unquote press
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  Speaker 3: or whatever. And it has backfired every time, every single time.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: You'd think for one second that they would have nothing
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  Speaker 2: to do this, but is Katie just doesn't understand because
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: she's new. Is that what it is?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Man? And she's new in the worst way I've seen
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: because like I think she legit thinks that they're all friends.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: That was kind of crazy. It was kind of like
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: it was kind of like talking to like a like
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  Speaker 2: a four year old that's like this is this is Alfred.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: They're like, oh, Alfred, yeah, sitting right here. It's like oh.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: And then it's like you're talking to the parents. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: their imaginary friend is so cute. That's so cool that
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: they have an imaginary friend, you know, and like Katie's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the bloggers my friend. It's like girl, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's so bad. I guess it makes me Tamra hit
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: on something with Katie that I was like, that's probably
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: something there where she said about needing like Tamra's therapy
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: journey and she saying, well, maybe Katie just really needs
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: uh like love or something along those lines. But it's
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: more I read it as like Katie just needs these
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: constant affirmations or this approval because she did have a
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: rough time there, and so maybe she just needs like
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: not so much control as just approval and control and
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: feeling like that she can handle this situation. There's something
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: going on there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that when a housewife, they
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: all do it to some degree, get involved with certain
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: accounts and if they budy up with them, they can
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  Speaker 2: use them to their advantage. So what a lot of
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: housewives have done in the past is they really throw
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: their net pretty wide and then they message with these
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: people and the people are like fanning out because they're
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: texting or they're messaging with a housewife that's giving them
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: time and so because of me and Tea, and then
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: they are excited because then that gives them their allegiance.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: They won't write anything bad about them or negative on
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: their blog or their social media. So the housewife is
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: using the account holder, and the account holder thinks that
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: they're special because this housewife is giving them time. When
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: they're just a pawn in their game. And if they're
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: they if they're not already upon, they will be down
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: the line because housewives will play the long game with
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: these people. And so you just really can't trust the
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: motivation of a housewife, you know, you just can't period
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: dot When you are someone on social media, they're using.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: You well, and it's just I mean, it's like that
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: in press and everything else, Like the second a politician
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: is befriending someone in the press thinking that they're friends,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: and it's like no, no, I mean they're going to
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: they're they're there to expose and you will be exposed,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: so right.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: But also by the way, yeah go ahead, Oh, I
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: was just.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Gonna say, it's just like chess. I mean I in that,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: I like, there's it's a it's a game.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: I just think housewives should get out of the dms
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: of every single social media person and let them do
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: their job. Let us do our jobs as podcasters, let
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: people on social media do their jobs as social media
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: people or bloggers or what have you, and the housewives
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: should go about their own business and create drama between
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: the group that they are with instead of having to
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: get all these other people involved that are watching the show.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: It makes for very complicated storylines one and really annoying
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: storylines with the exception of Monica and Salt Lake City
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: because that is legendary.
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  Speaker 3: Know I No, I guess, like I don't feel that
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  Speaker 3: way because I feel like these bloggers are kind of
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: like the modern day gossip columnists or whatever. So I
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: guess I'm kind of and where I'm thinking, like they're
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: always like people leaking stuff to the to the rags. Yeah,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: so I like that it's being exposed. Okay, now I
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: do feel like what's being exposed like these shitty little accounts,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: it's a little different, but like then it like, you know,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: you having something like in I don't know, some big
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: publication or something, some hot gossip, but I I don't know,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: I kind of love it. I kind of love that,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: like because I not a shitty little account. But I
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: did see like Bravo Babe posting something the screenshot.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: So I was gonna mention that, Yeah, so Bravo Babe
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: is which is.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Not a shitty account. I'm not gonna say that's not
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: the account I'm thinking of.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, So Bravo Babe, who I know, because she's from
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Chicago and she was at our show. Ye so yes,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: so she was one of the accounts that has been
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: referred to, the one that Katie is saying she did
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: not call, and Bravo Babe posted receipts saying that she
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: did call her, and she has the screenshot of Katie
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: calling her on over the dms of Instagram.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, which I totally believe.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Well, of course, I mean so many times Katie has
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: been caught in a lie, so many times, including the
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: very end, which will obviously get to where she's like,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I have no signal, I have no signal. Oh well,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I mean she clearly is trying to hide it.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: I think she could have not had a signal because
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Shannon was also saying she didn't have a signal. But
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: the other thing that Katie is doing that they are
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: not clocking yet and hopefully they will. We as the audience,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: have the advantage is that Katie is a real stickler
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: for words. So when she's saying I don't even know
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: her number, well yeah, because she called her over Instagram. Oh,
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: She's like, yeah, I don't even know her name. Well,
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: that's because she goes by the name of Bravo babe.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: So you didn't know her name, but I thought you
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: guys were friends.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: It's either. But I so I would like to ask
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: you because after last season at the reunion, when Emily
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: brought up all of Katie's custody stuff, which was I
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: think about my look, Yeah, it was really dirty. It
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: was not Emily, yes exactly.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: So I think with Katie, you know, coming for her
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: and her kids in this way with the nanny is
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's just retribution for how she was
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: treated at the reunion. And I feel like it's definitely
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: tit for tat and I kind of don't blame Katie
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: for it, to be honest with you, because Emily came
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: so hard for her at the reunion. She exposed something
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: so so big, and it was really not women supporting women.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: We were left to our own device of having to think, oh,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: is she some sort of bad mother? And we don't
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: know the backstory, truly don't know what happened, and I
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: don't know if Katie will ever explain what happened. But
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: you know, as we took that information in, people can
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: think what they want, and we tried to give you know,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: we give her the benefit of the doubt, you know, who
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: knows what was going on, but it was not.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: She had a women's shelter. I mean, I don't think
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: it was good and I don't know the sex, but
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: it doesn't sound great, right, Yeah.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: So I just that was a bad look for Emily,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: and so I kind of don't blame Katie for going
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: after her this season, do you?
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: I don't. I just my my don't. I don't know
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: if it'll stay the whole season. I just think that, yeah,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: I don't. I kind of was like, Emily, why are
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: you still coming after Katie this hard? If anything, I
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: was really thinking, did I miss something because she was
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: coming after Kate's so hard. Meanwhile, like Emily, I thought
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: we all thought played the dirtiest at the reunion that
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: we'd seen in a minute from Emily or oc like
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: it was just like whoa, because she kept coming for her,
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: coming for her, and it was all I thought motivated
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: because remember we kept going back and forth about like
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: surely Emily's kids have heard about the show, it can't
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: all be Katie's daughter, right, and talking about Heather. And
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: then also they came for because Katie denied saying this
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: stuff about Heather and the Pepparazzi being planted or whatever. Yeah,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Katie really isn't going to do herself favors, and I
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: get why she's doing it, and they're going to destroy her.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Well there, and they're destroying each other because they're bringing
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: the kids into it, you know, as messy as Emily
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: was last season at this reunion bringing that up, you know,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Katie stooped to that level. And it's like, has this
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: ex nanny I mean, the fact that this ex nanny
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: came and sought out Katie, which I'm curious about that too.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Did Katie seek her out? You know, I don't know
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: how that would have happened, but it seems more likely
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: that the nanny did reach out to Katie and was like,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: you're not you know, crazy, Emily's crazy Da da da da.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: But like for her to then take that information and
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: first having her letting her daughter be on a podcast
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: is weird to begin with, Like that ful to me?
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: The daughter, I.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Don't know, I mean, I know she's not like fourteen,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: so she's probably like what seventeen maybe I don't know
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: if she's eighteen.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Didn't she say she didn't let her be on there
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: she what was that vibe? She did a letter on
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: the podcast.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she let her on the podcast.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: So I just think it's weird that she had her
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: do this podcast tell her side of the story. I
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: just think that's so bizarro. And then furthermore, had this
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: ex nanny's information sent over to the same podcaster. I mean,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: it is about as messy as it gets. You know,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: you're bringing your kid into it because and you're bringing
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Emily's kids into it. So she heightened it, she really did.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: But you know what, Emily never apologized to her. She
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: never apologized to her for what she did at the reunion.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Had she done that, maybe this wouldn't have happened, because
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Katie said, I mean in this episode, I haven't gotten
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: an apology. Where's my apology for that? You know, she
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: just went hard and she went dirty and she just
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: went there. Now Emily is pissed, you know, she's like
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Susan decays, go my lawyer, which I don't know. I
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: don't blame her. She did the right thing, like you know,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: this ex nanny, who can you trust? Someone is babysitting
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: your kids and now they're going out and talking about
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: you and your kids. That's a dangerous katy. Yeah, Neather,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: how dare you bring me into this? So she did
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: the right thing by getting a season assist. I think
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: that's in the whole slander thing. I think that's terrible
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: that she did that.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think everybody's big issue, as maybe
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: even like the viewers too, is that Katie looks like
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: a deer in headlights when she's confronted with something, and
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: it's so confusing. It almost feels like she's gaslighting them.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Like I have no idea what you're talking.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: It's like she's playing powsome. Yeah, but really like react still,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: she's just like still pretending that. She's like I'm dead,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I'm frozen, I'm dead, I'm not here, I'm not here,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: don't see anything. This isn't happening. She's like dissociating from
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: her body. Yes, it is a wild reaction, so you
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: automatically think she's lying and she's covering up because she's
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: not reacting at all.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's so confusing, and it might be like she's
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: on xanax or something. I don't know, but like I'm
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: la la, la la. But that's the vibe I'm getting.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: I don't think that she is, because that is her,
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: that's her baseline. I've never seen her like not chill.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Right right, right, so, but yeah, she is probably the
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: most chill one note housewife that we've ever had.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's confusing, and it's got to be confusing against
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: someone like Emily. And that also could be just from
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: whatever trauma she went through. That's how she controls herself.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, I don't know absolutely. I like her on
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: the show though, Yeah, I do too. And and Shannon
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: at this Stealership, you know, when she's getting her air
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: and her tires filled up, she does say to Katie, like,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: you know, we don't have kids to do. We don't
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: bring the kids into it. You had your on a
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: podcast that we don't we don't do that here. That's
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: not what we do in Orange County. We don't do that.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Are you okay with that? So I'm glad that she's
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: slightly brought it up to her, you know, like, I
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: do have a bit of a problem with this, but
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be by your side and it is me trial.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Katie's like, oh no, one does cut to Next
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Generate Next Gen the show where people are putting their kids,
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Bravo Kids straight up like, oh yeah, you know what
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, Like it's going to happen. So she's just
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: getting ready for next gen.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: That's funny, getting her ready for next gen. Uh yeah,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: It's like it was interesting in getting a flashbacksem like
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: why are Katie and Shannon hanging out so much? And
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Shannon just by just squeaked in barely defended her, you
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: know at the reunion, just a squeak, but enough to
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: where Katie's like, Okay, we can hang out, Yeah, we
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: can do scenes together, but you know what, that's biler.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: At the end, Shannon gets really mad at Katie again. Yeah.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I think that Katie's going to have to answer to
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: a lot of this at some point. She's got to
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: because even I, who am like I enjoy her on
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: the show, I'm like, but she's fucking I don't want
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: to be friends with her. It was wild that Jen
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: called her a con artist and also didn't like fully
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: stand in it either.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Don't remember did I would I say that? That's crazy? Wow,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: that's like so harsh that I would say that about you?
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Did I say that? I don't know? That's what I
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: was told? Did I I you tell me. It's like
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: the weirdest conversation we tuned two robots.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Who are best friends?
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Right, con artist? Meanwhile, I'm like, Jen, look to your left,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: you're with this guy named Ryan who you know. Well,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I just bookended by con artists. Apparently, I just feel
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: really comfortable when I'm in between con artists because it
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: makes me feel pure, like I'm not doing anything wrong
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: and everyone else is.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Does con artists mean with art that conn a con.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Art I love art and I have some in my
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: yoga studio, and I just really enjoy supporting art. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: so okay. I because I haven't really been following Gina.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: I mean I followed Gina, and I like a lot
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: of her like real estate posts and stuff like that.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: I did not know. She was like, I got anyhowse
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Ean and Tramy's movie, and I was like, what when
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: did they move back in together? They like reblended their families?
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Oh my god?
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. For some reason that wasn't news to me.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: But I don't know why. I don't remember.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: At some point because you and Gina are best friends,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: A bloger close so close.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. You and Travis are best friends.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: I'm friends with Travis's X. Yeah. No, I uh, I
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: don't know. Maybe because they were at the reunion talking
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: about that they are working things out.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Or so there was some news it's suppressed.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: I was not surprised. You gotta tamra disgusting. This episode,
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: by the way.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: De disgusting. I know, I loved it. It was like
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: right out of the gates too, and it was a
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: hard disgusting. It was right out of those like behind
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: the gates gates, you know, just boom they opened up
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: and she's like discuss sang Na. It was amazing.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, anyway, I guess so no, I I guess,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: like I wish we had more of an update, not
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: so much on Gina Andravis, but on Ryan. I really
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: want an update on that dude.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: But whatever, I can't even believe they're still together. It
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: blows my mind. Blows my mind.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: All Right.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: So we got a very very compelling scene, very deep
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: scene with Emily sharing about Luke's eating disorder called ARFID,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: which I had heard of. And I actually just want
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: to mention this because so there's this podcast it is
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: called at Parenting Survival. At Parenting Survival, I found this
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: a long time ago. It's this therapist, this woman she
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: actually she's got kids. She's also a child psychologist, and
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: her whole podcast is on like kids with OCD and anxiety.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: That's how I found out about what ARFID is is
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: because I, you know, there's just there are so many
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: things these days, and it's like one of the things
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: that I've experienced is that like all kids have something,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Like everybody's got something, all kids and adults. But it
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: is such a fascinating journey to to discover something like
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: this because when you're when you have a child, you know,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: kids are just notoriously picky eaters, right, so why you know,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: why would you think anything different, that there would be
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: something wrong? And so it's just it's such an interesting
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: journey that now they're going on and they're taking us
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: along with them. I have mixed feelings about it because
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I want him to have privacy so that I you know,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: that's tough to watch. You know, it's a child. He
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: hasn't like consented to this. And on the flip side,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: I think that this will really help a lot of parents.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: It's it can be relatable in many levels. It can
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: normalize certain conditions that children have that people don't know about.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: It's a tough place to be in. What are your thoughts, Emily.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I hear both sides. I think what I
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: have to hear all But like I this episode, Emily
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: is talking about her kids being affected by what people
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: say at school and everything, and I I'm kind of like, yeah,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know what you do. I mean, Emily is
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: also the kind of person that lives life very openly
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: and that's just who she is. So those kids are
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: a part of that. So it will help people.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: But I can tell a sense of potentially his privacy,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: which is tough.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: What she's acknowledging is why she's pissed at Katie, Like, like,
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: I guess right, it's a full circle.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that you make a good point, you know, when
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: you start to draw the lines out, they connect in
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: an odd way.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And she's really isolating him. And that's where
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: I feel kind of bad, because I mean, I had
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: a sibling, and the more siblings you have, the more
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: you want to not be the one that gets isolated
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: in a bad way, I think. And so I just
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: and I don't know if it's a bad way, that's
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: a bad way. To say it. I'm just saying when
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: you go to school, you don't want to be the
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: one people are talking about in elementary school and middle school,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: after that in high school, I guess, but after that,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: like anyway, whatever, I might be totally leaning in the
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: wrong direction on that. Maybe it's great. I have no idea.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: I just think Emily's really sensitive to what people are
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: saying at her kids' school.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: So yeah, And I'm also worried that, like as housewives
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: always do, though they say they don't want to talk
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: about the kids, they end up weaponizing things that happen
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: in their children's lives. So it's like, I'm a little
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: bit worried about that. Yeah, But on on a note
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: of support and vulnerability of of what this scene was,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: you know, I did appreciate Gina really empathizing with her
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: about what it's like to be a parent in the
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: situation because of her child had the sensory issues and
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: she didn't know at first. But it's it's hard to
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: be a good observer of these types of things unless
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: you know these things exist. It's hard to see something
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: when you don't even know that it that something like
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: that can present itself.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: So that was a weird flashback scene that I forgot
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: by the way with Gina, and like the teacher, I
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: was like, it confused me a little bit, like was
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Sheina having like a parent teacher conference with me?
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: No, that was a physical therapist. That was that was
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: a therapist.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Well still, I'm like with the crou I see with
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: like to film, I just thought, like I again, like
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: I hear you, they're probably doing way more helpful than
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: harm in terms of on a broader scale. I don't
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: know if I would want to do it.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, I wouldn't do it for a second.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I can see weighing it. I can get
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: I get it. I don't want to judge them for it,
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: for choosing to do it.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Well, because if there aren't people out there sharing their stories,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: then we've got no stories to look at as a
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: regular human being to hear about stories if you're not
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: telling the stories. So there's that aspect of it too,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: which I totally get. I just you know, and I
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: think that's why Gina did it. And I think I
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: feel like that is was her being extremely vulnerable too,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: and she was blaming herself, you know, she was saying,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: you know, was it me? I didn't notice it and
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: she's gone this far. Well it's not you know, it's
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: not far. It's just also she was in the hell
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: of a urage at that time. That my god. So
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: but kudos to these all these parents that are being
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: proactive and getting the help that they need. And I
• 39:09
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  Speaker 2: Let's go to therapy with Tamra. Let's go Yeah.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: I love that She's like, Hey, Bravo, can we open
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: up this season with me clearing up my autism diagnosis?
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: And not just that, but her therapist being like, hello,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: I am a doctor Jones, and we have not assessed you.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: I will assess you. We have not assessed you yet.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: We need to do an assessment. So I did not
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: say that. I did not say that thank you right
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: out of the gates.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, like that? I mean it was needed, especially
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: when you consider what Emily's dealing with in terms of
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: what you know with her son. I was like, I
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: bet this could have been really awkward if Shannon doubled
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: down or tamoron doubled down on this, but like, I
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: think it was good. I'm not one for therapy scenes
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: on these shows, but I needed that one.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Oh and the therapist needed that Damner needed that, everybody
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: needed that. When she was crying though, like I actually
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: thought she was crying about Teddy, But at that point
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: she didn't. We didn't even know yet. She didn't even
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: know yet until we got to that retreat, and that's
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: all she knew. And I was like, oh, because she's
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: crying about what she's going through and her her issues
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: and all that stuff. But then it's like.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: I think, I think she knew Teddy was not well,
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: but I don't know if that's why she's I think
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: there's yeah, but I don't know.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: She didn't know because it happened in like a second.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: She had headaches and all of a sudden. Yeah, she
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: may have known she had headaches and was tired, but
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: she didn't know anything about brain tumors. She just went
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: to the hospital and it was like boom there they were.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right. I mean yeah, I
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: mean she was a therapist. Now that you're saying it,
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: I'm sure she was just crying because America hated her.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like, I mean it was yeah, she threw
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: and she threw out all of the the language, the
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: language that we use, you know, in therapy about and
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: just that thoughts and censory. No, I don't, I'm not.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: I look, it's real stuff, but it's just it's hard.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: To oh for camera. We've turned her the tailor and
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Clark of the show. And by the way, again, I
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: want to say I'm sad that Taylor and Clark are
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: now off Love Island. Anyway, go oh.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Emily. I'm surprised it took you thirty
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: minutes to actually mention Love Island. But so congratulations, you're
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: you're getting there. Yeah. Yeah, So she tells you she's
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: like as annihilated as annihilator percents on the Speham and
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: so she was upset, and then we go through the
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: list of things that you know, she's got anger and
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: she's got all this trauma and we know, we know
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: all about it, we know, you know, we know.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And by the way, I mentioned Houdah earlier, so
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: not quite.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Oh that's right, right, you're right, Oh my god, you
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: did within the first three minutes.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can you remind me Darlings and or Amy, I,
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: for the life of me cannot fully land on why
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: Tamra's upset with Shannon. Was it just because of the
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: David cancer thing?
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: What David cancer.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Like that she didn't David reach out or I mean
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: Simon cancer thing.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's all last season Tamor was riding
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Shannon's ass about the drinking and driving.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: I know, but prior to that, there was something that
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: that Shannon was insensitive to and they alluded to it
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: on this show, and and that she didn't reach out
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: when Simon was sick or something like that.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, because.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: I was I wasn't pest at him that week, but yes,
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: and then it and then it really became about the
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: drinking thing. There was a baseline she mentioned and I
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: was like, wait, what.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: She mentioned a baseline at some point? Oh interesting, I'm.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Just thinking about, yeah, Shannon being insensitive or something.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Sure, I mean they're all insensitive, and what are we doing,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: like this is the Housewives. Here's your orange, here's your insensitivity.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Let's go, here's your rage. That's so funny. Yeah, I
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: don't I don't know. I mean, believe me, I don't
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: want to see anybody crying and in pain over real stuff.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: So it's not like I'm laughing at that. I just
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: like it's kind of funny.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: Some censory issues.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, guy, I don't know, man, Okay, but uh oh,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: we got Ryan and Jen shopping. We did kind of
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: mention beach bunny or Bunny Bunny beach, I don't know whatever,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: And uh yeah, Ryan says Camera's therapy is bullshit, and
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: then he goes on to reference her baptism by saying
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: that should have been enough for a change. And I
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: gotta say, Ryan, welcome in. Oh my god, a fan base.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: You've been watching this show for as long as I
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: can tell, waiting to get on it, you know what
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, Like, this guy's been a fan of Orange County.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: He knew about that baptism police.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, he's in the mornings. He trains with Slate.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: He's going over there. He's like, how do I get in?
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: And then it's like, I'm coming back, buddy.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Speaking of Gretchen's coming. I know, it's so crazy. We
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: haven't gotten that yet.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: But the fact that Ryan thinks going to therapy equates
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: to a baptism ceremony is tells.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: You that is hilarious. Like I'm like, it wasn't an exorcism,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: by the way, that's different. And it also, you know,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: I guess I think his point and I can't. I
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: can't argue with him because it's kind of funny that
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: he would even bring it up. Is that a lot
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: of it's very performative, you know. Yeah, mean, here you are,
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: you're getting dunked in a pool, and then you're just like, yep,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: fucking batch. You don't even taut your kads like you know,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just hypocrisy, is just amazing.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's why I'm like, buddy, the more you
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: talk about Tamra and deflect, oh, the more I need
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: to know why you need to talk about Tamra so much,
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: Like what's going on?
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how are we not addressing his monumental errors with
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: the law and money allegedly allegedly? Thank you?
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: So uh Okay, So Heather and Emily and Tamar have
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: dinner and they're like blogger this blogger at Charles Charles,
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: Charles rules, bloggers, podcast, podcast, con artist. It's just like
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: it's so many things all at one time. And this
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: is when they're just talking about Katie saying that someone
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: reached out to her. Okay, but then we move on
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: to Gina, who bombards Katie with Emily's appearance.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: Yes, the ambush.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: The ambush was funny.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, perfect example of Katie zero reaction, like zero, like yeah,
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: I mean she reacted, but it was not it was no.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: It was nothing. She'd be a great poker player, is
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: what we're saying.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she would be the best. Yeah. And she like
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: had just a very chist well or just chill and
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: being completely naive.
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: Hm.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say she's completely naive. She knows
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: what she's doing to a point, and then I think
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: she totally knows what she's doing. Actually, now that I'm saying.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she completely knows what she's doing. But that's okay,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: that's neither here nowhere. I mean it is here, is there?
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: It's both places it But but Gina's like, yeah, I'm
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: a surprised Emily's here. She's like, your birch, you can roll,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: but your care hid in your pockets. Yes, yes, that
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: was awesome. Katie's like, okay, well, your ex nanny reached
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: out to me. I guess I should have ignored it. Sorry,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: She's like, go watch you to apologize. I just did.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: More. I will say. When Katie is like not reacting,
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: she's always saying the perfect thing, right, I hear you,
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: and I'm learning from you and I'm not going to do.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: It again to their faces. Then she runs out and
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: she's like, fucking here, we go plan them and to
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: do all kinds of shit. But Shannon and Tamra have
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: not talk since last season and anyway, but we already
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: kind of talked about that. But let's go to the
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Golden Door because and Shannon's Zen retreat, which she has
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: gone to so many times that if you go there,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: what does she say? If you're there for ten to
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: twenty five times? I'm like, how is that a number
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: that you can assess? Like why does it stop at
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: twenty five times that you can hang a little you know,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: tile on this chandelier? Like She's like, if you're there
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: for ten to twenty times, you get to hang this
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: on the chandelier.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: Did that make sense to you the shannondolier. Yes, yes,
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: no it didn't. But I mean, like a lot whatever
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Well, Shannon had every I just can't believe it cost
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: twelve thousand dollars for eight days. And she's like, yes,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: I've been here so many times. David sent me here,
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: John sent me here, and I always come back a better.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, for that amount of money, I'd expect just
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: one change, just one chill vibe, nothing.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Sticks, but she can. She can really drum those drums though,
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: and that stuck so good on her. Well, this is
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: where Shannon was going to talk to Tamra, but she
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: couldn't because we found out about Teddy's brain tumors, and
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: so now she's gonna, you know, step off, which is nice.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: But we eventually have the big conversation and Emily talks
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: about how Katie should never have done that and she
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: had to you know, put a cease and assist against
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: this ex nanny, and it just blows up. What were
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: your thoughts at the end of this final group scene.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Katie's fucked. I really like Katie. She's fucked, and yours
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: My my bigger thoughts were going back. I still was
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: thinking about it this morning. Wow, Jen's daughter doesn't know
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: who Oprah is. I huh was stunned.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's crazy. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, I
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: didn't register with me.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: Jeez, oh it registered, it kept registering. It's got it's
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: registered in deeply into my brain. I was like, oh
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: my god, that's nuts.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost as nuts as Heather's asbestos and that
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: tear down. Can you believe that? Like, seriously, I'm.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: So mad she tore out that beautiful home that could
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: have stayed and not the.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: People they have done though not I say, it's a
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: total tear down with all that is beestos.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: Well, but if you don't disrupt it, it's okay, right
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: the asbestos. If it just sits and it's.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: Not well, once it's detected, nobody wants to live there.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: You know, how did they not detect it? That's the
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: other question, Like once because.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: It's not all they took down walls to do some
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: construction and that's when they found it.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: I know. But like you know, I have a lot
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: of questions in the state of California, like you could
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: have known that, I guess because like I know, like
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: the people next to us, they they were allowed to
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: like figure out what was going on there because they
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: were going to do a whole remodel and they could
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: figure out about that ahead of time.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: It might have been one of those properties that's like
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: no contingencies, like you can't you buy us? Is you know?
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Oh that's true, which has been all over California for
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: many years. That made me see the case now, but
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: it was for a while. Well, listen, we are gonna
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: stay at the Golden Door until Shannon just drums her
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: way to another golden door.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: God Amy, I was called the golden.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, golden door. Damn it, damn it was staring at
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: me right right in the face. You need to do
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: tai chi, all right, I'm gonna do some tai chie,
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• 56:47
  Speaker 3: Listen,