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Mark interviews columnist Liz Peek. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: Now nine till noon weekdays. Mark Simone. More Mark. On 710WOR.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the brilliant columnist Liz Peek. You can read her columns, foxnews.com, thehill.com.
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  Speaker 2: Even better, go to her website. You can get everything there.
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  Speaker 2: Just go to lizpeek.com, lizpeek.com. Liz Peek, how are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: I am terrific. Thanks for having me on.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, only 33 days until the midterms. What do you think? Republicans,
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  Speaker 2: they haven't really done enough messaging and spending, have they?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I think that's totally true. It's very discouraging to
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  Speaker 1: know that there's a lot of good material for Republicans
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  Speaker 1: out there campaigning, Mark, and particularly good material coming from,
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  Speaker 1: for example, the Big Beautiful Bill, which absolutely directly ties
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  Speaker 1: to the fact that So many American families are feeling
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  Speaker 1: better off. I understand that inflation is the big issue
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  Speaker 1: and affordability and everything. But the reality is it's got
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  Speaker 1: a binary. Republicans cut taxes, giving more money to people
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  Speaker 1: to take home out of their paycheck. And what do
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  Speaker 1: Democrats want to do? Kamala Harris incredibly ran against the 2000s,
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  Speaker 1: extending the 2017 tax cuts. In other words, she wanted
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  Speaker 1: to ladle on to our economy and our population a
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  Speaker 1: massive tax increase. Wayne, have you ever heard about Democrats
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  Speaker 1: wanting to cut taxes? They don't. They oppose it all
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  Speaker 1: the time. So, you know, no taxes on tips, no
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  Speaker 1: taxes on overtime. Those are very popular measures that were
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  Speaker 1: in that big, beautiful bill. And, you know, it's just weird.
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of Republicans are running away from
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  Speaker 1: that bill, worried that they're going to be accused of
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  Speaker 1: backing handouts to the rich. It was a middle class
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  Speaker 1: tax bill. That's what it was. And frankly, they should
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  Speaker 1: have followed it up with more middle class tax cuts
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  Speaker 1: this year. And it's very unfortunate, to use a mild word,
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  Speaker 1: that they didn't have another reconciliation bill with more changes
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  Speaker 1: in it. Because yes, I know everyone is worried about
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  Speaker 1: federal spending and the deficit. Yeah, so cut spending, which
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  Speaker 1: of course Democrats hate the idea of, but also every
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  Speaker 1: time they've cut taxes, you get more revenue. That is
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  Speaker 1: the history. It's a fact. And Republicans sort of run
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  Speaker 1: with that. Anyway, look, every candidate has his own local
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  Speaker 1: issues to be concerned about, but man, I think they
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  Speaker 1: missed a big opportunity. Let's face it, they had the trifecta, right?
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  Speaker 1: The Senate, the House, and the White House And even
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  Speaker 1: though the margins were pretty narrow, certainly things like cutting
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  Speaker 1: taxes should have been first and foremost on their agenda.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the only problem, though, in the world of fake news,
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  Speaker 2: when people are watching network news, reading the New York Times,
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  Speaker 2: all they hear is the Republicans, it was tax cuts
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  Speaker 2: for the rich, tax cuts for billionaires. And they start
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  Speaker 2: to believe that that's all it was. It's certainly not
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  Speaker 2: the case. But how do you battle that fake news?
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  Speaker 2: How do you get through?
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  Speaker 1: Well, for one thing, you try. I mean, you try
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  Speaker 1: talking about the benefits, the thousands of dollars that the
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  Speaker 1: average American family took home last year because of the
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  Speaker 1: tax cuts. And the evidence is on our side. The
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  Speaker 1: facts are on our side. But I have to say
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  Speaker 1: what Democrats have is a message machine, the email. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we've all seen these things on Twitter, right, where the
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  Speaker 1: email goes out in the morning and 16 politicians say
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  Speaker 1: exactly the same words. in response. Where is our messaging, maestro?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that we have one. If we do,
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  Speaker 1: they're sure not doing a very good job. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's just an awful lot of issues that the American
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  Speaker 1: people believe Republicans have a better view on, like immigration enforcement.
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  Speaker 1: Who's out there talking about the fact that the border
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  Speaker 1: is secure? I don't think anybody is campaigning on that. Mark,
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  Speaker 1: has everybody got just a faulty memory? This was less
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  Speaker 1: than two years ago. It was one of the top
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  Speaker 1: three issues for American voters. Just because you solve the
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  Speaker 1: issue doesn't mean it's not important. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: Democrats have every opportunity, because all of that was done
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  Speaker 1: through executive action, to go in and start undoing what
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  Speaker 1: Trump has done. Is that really what Americans want? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I really am frustrated by voters' singular focus, particularly on affordability,
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  Speaker 1: which is just such a ridiculous thing. The idea that Democrats...
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  Speaker 1: who absolutely chronically raise taxes and increase regulations, both of
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  Speaker 1: which we can absolutely certify need to higher prices. They're
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  Speaker 1: the party of affordability. I don't even know how people
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  Speaker 1: can really be tolerating this nonsense.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, and the price of gas for it. You know,
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  Speaker 2: if it was up to Democrats, it'd be $ 10. That's
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  Speaker 2: what they always push for, isn't it? They raise the
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  Speaker 2: energy cost.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's true. Yes, Trump's war in Iran, which of
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  Speaker 1: course now has become unpopular, has made oil prices higher. Interestingly,
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  Speaker 1: oil prices are coming down now, but somehow nobody's really
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  Speaker 1: responding to that. And the war in Russia, which is
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  Speaker 1: certainly not Trump's fault, that basically Joe Biden green-lighted when
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  Speaker 1: he said, well, if it's just a minor incursion, meaning
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  Speaker 1: we wouldn't be too upset about Putin just taking a
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  Speaker 1: small fraction of Ukraine. Yeah, prices are high right now
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  Speaker 1: for products, but, you know, other prices are coming down
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  Speaker 1: and inflation's around 3%. We had a pretty favorable ruling
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  Speaker 1: reading on that yesterday. And where was it during Biden?
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  Speaker 1: It peaked at 9%. And yet somehow now, really what
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  Speaker 1: happened is that prices went up about, for everything, went
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  Speaker 1: up about 20% when Joe Biden was president. Trump comes in.
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  Speaker 1: foolishly saying he can lower prices because prices almost never
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  Speaker 1: go down except for commodities. And, you know, they continue
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  Speaker 1: to go up two or three percent a year. But
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  Speaker 1: we're basically eating still Biden's inflation. And that is a fact.
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  Speaker 1: During Biden's administration, a lot of things went wrong, including
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  Speaker 1: everybody felt like they were entitled to raise prices. And
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  Speaker 1: that was a really pretty bad scenario.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Liz Peek, explain this to me. The president did
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  Speaker 2: the smartest thing you could do. He got, for the
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  Speaker 2: AI problem, he got the heads of all the AI
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  Speaker 2: companies and all the Google and all the most brilliant
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  Speaker 2: people in America, the brilliant tech geniuses, tech geniuses, all
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  Speaker 2: in one room. And what did they come up with? Well,
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  Speaker 2: form a committee? That's what they came up with? I
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  Speaker 2: could have thought of that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Maybe it could have been done remotely. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I think any time you convene a group like that
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  Speaker 1: that is fiercely competing with each other, but also has very,
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  Speaker 1: very important interests that the federal government has to be
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  Speaker 1: basically addressing and that the public is addressing, you're not
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  Speaker 1: going to walk away with a resolution. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: think the answer is I actually buy the idea that
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  Speaker 1: the industry has to impose upon itself some restrictions, some
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  Speaker 1: guardrails is the popular word for how we monitor the
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  Speaker 1: behavior of new agents being spawned by these new models.
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  Speaker 1: There's a concern here. I think Trump was foolish in
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  Speaker 1: dismissing the public's concern about AI safety. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: quite possible that the AI executives are overstating the risks
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  Speaker 1: for various self-serving interests. But the reality is, these companies
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  Speaker 1: have seen these AI agents go rogue. Frankly, I've been
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  Speaker 1: talking about this for a year. The fact that they
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  Speaker 1: had not ever put out a PR blitz about the
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  Speaker 1: advantages or the positives of AI means the country already
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  Speaker 1: is scared slash apprehensive about what damage AI could do
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  Speaker 1: and really not particularly excited about the very positive things
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  Speaker 1: AI could do. This This was a major miss by
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  Speaker 1: the industry. But now we have not only concerted action
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  Speaker 1: taken against data centers, which is a completely different issue,
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  Speaker 1: and that should have been resolved. It's incredible that the
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  Speaker 1: Democrats blocked a measure trying to resolve some of the
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  Speaker 1: issues about data centers. But that's completely separate from this
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  Speaker 1: safety thing. Anyway, look, I think we'll see progress on
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  Speaker 1: this issue. I think the industry is aware that these
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  Speaker 1: concerns are real. They need to be addressed. And I
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  Speaker 1: hope they will. And I hope the white house does too.
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  Speaker 2: These are the greatest geniuses of AI though. I would
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  Speaker 2: have thought they'd come out of the meeting, maybe explain
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  Speaker 2: something to us. Like there are 80% of AI is great, wonderful,
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  Speaker 2: nothing to worry about. There's a little part of it.
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  Speaker 2: That's they call it that recursive where it can reinvent itself.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't. Why don't they just explain to us exactly
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  Speaker 2: where the problem is in AI. And if there's a
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  Speaker 2: way to fix.
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  Speaker 1: It, I agree with you. And it's, You know, have
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  Speaker 1: we reached singularity, which is when agents really become better
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  Speaker 1: empowered than humans? No one really is able to. And
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  Speaker 1: I think the problem, Mark, honestly, people aren't really sure
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  Speaker 1: where we are. I don't even think the industry is
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  Speaker 1: quite aware of where we are. They have agents they
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  Speaker 1: created that engineers have created. that are doing unexpected things.
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  Speaker 1: And you have to kind of say, well, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: how can that possibly be? We engineers, we humans set
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  Speaker 1: the guardrails, set the rules, tell these agents what to do,
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  Speaker 1: and then they do things that are not only unexpected,
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  Speaker 1: but not permitted. That is alarming, right? I mean, there
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  Speaker 1: is something going on here that isn't quite as expected
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  Speaker 1: or isn't right. And I think the industry, frankly, doesn't
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  Speaker 1: know what to say about it. I've read all this stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and I think you ought to read Ahmad Ice's Dario
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  Speaker 1: Amode's screeds and other people's writings on this topic, it's
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  Speaker 1: pretty fascinating, honestly, but it's also a little concerning, to
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  Speaker 1: be sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they could go rogue, do things you didn't expect.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, that's the same thing with Supreme Court justices, too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, or even mayors. Who can tell, right?
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  Speaker 2: Well, Liz Peek, brilliant, as always. You've got to read
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  Speaker 2: her columns, foxnews.com. the hill.com but the best thing you
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  Speaker 2: should do this is go to her website lizpeak.com everything's
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  Speaker 2: up there also great news stories every day check it
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  Speaker 2: out every day lizpeak.com lizpeak thanks for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me mark all right.
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