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Cameron Mathison Lost His Marriage and His Home And Still Found Happiness In Chapter Two · I Do, Part 2

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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, I do part two. We're back.
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  Speaker 3: It's Daisy Fuentes and Richard Marks taking over the pod.
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  Speaker 3: And this podcast, of course, is all about chapter two.
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  Speaker 3: And for a lot of us, the road to chapter
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  Speaker 3: two can be full of bumps and twists and turns,
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  Speaker 3: but it's how you come out on the other side
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  Speaker 3: that really matters, right? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And our guest today has gone through a lot of
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  Speaker 2: those twists and turns and still chooses to move through
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  Speaker 2: his life with gratitude and kindness. You all know him
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  Speaker 2: as Drew Cain on General Hospital, and he's got a
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  Speaker 2: new holiday movie out now called A Very Arctic Christmas
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  Speaker 2: that we're going to hear about. Please say hello to
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  Speaker 2: our friend Cameron Matheson. Hey, buddy.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, guys.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: How are you, man? I'm doing well. I'm happy to
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  Speaker 1: be here and talking about all these things. In the intro,
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  Speaker 1: we went from gratitude and kindness to Drew Cain. So
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  Speaker 1: anybody that watches that show will be like, that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: add up. Or I mean, how do we go from
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  Speaker 1: gratitude and kindness? For those that don't know, my character
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  Speaker 1: Drew Cain is not, he's.
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  Speaker 4: Not super filled with gratitude and kindness.
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  Speaker 1: But that must.
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  Speaker 2: Be fun to play something that's so not you. It
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  Speaker 2: really is.
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  Speaker 1: It's the first time in my life I've been doing
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  Speaker 1: this for a minute, and that play, anybody like that
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  Speaker 1: just started. That's how excited I am. I've played anybody
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  Speaker 1: that's literally hated this much. Like I am detested. It's
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  Speaker 1: not even a love to hate sort of thing. People
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  Speaker 1: just do not like me. It's, I mean, do you.
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  Speaker 2: Find, do people like in grocery stores and stuff that
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  Speaker 2: they confuse you with the characters that still have very
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  Speaker 2: soap operas is like, I know. Cause I've had friends
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  Speaker 2: for years.
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  Speaker 1: Of course you guys, a lot of people in daytime
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  Speaker 1: through the, you know, through the years. And it's funny
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  Speaker 1: you say grocery stores.
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  Speaker 4: Because literally my two most aggressive encounters were in a
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  Speaker 4: grocery store. The first one was a woman started throwing
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  Speaker 4: produce at me. I got, I got an apple thrown
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  Speaker 4: at me. No, I guess it was mostly apples. And
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  Speaker 4: I was like dodging them.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't want to like, yeah. And she, and it
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  Speaker 1: was somewhat playful, but not really, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Like you are horrible.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, wow, wow.
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  Speaker 1: You know, trying to catch this. And then the other one,
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  Speaker 1: I was in a grocery store and, and, uh, one
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  Speaker 1: of the employees, uh, Had a rolled up magazine and
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  Speaker 1: I was looking at an aisle and she came up,
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  Speaker 1: she just started beating me on the back.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Wickedly whack.
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  Speaker 1: She said she recognized my voice and she just started
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  Speaker 1: laying into me.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. One of my dearest friends is Brandon Barash.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And he's told me, and he said it happens in
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  Speaker 2: the grocery store.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the grocery store is a big place.
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  Speaker 2: He'll just be like picking out something for his kid
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  Speaker 2: and somebody will come up and just give him something.
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  Speaker 1: Whenever you feel down by yourself and you want to
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  Speaker 1: get recognized, we just go hang out in the grocery store.
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  Speaker 1: You know what?
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  Speaker 3: You're doing a good job.
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  Speaker 2: You're doing a good job. You're so convincing.
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  Speaker 3: The show just won, what, four daytime Emmys. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It won four daytime Emmys.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: 2026. We won best show. This is the sixth. year
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  Speaker 1: in a row that we won the best daytime drama.
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  Speaker 2: That's amazing. Congrats.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I just want to say I've been on the show
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  Speaker 4: for five and a half years.
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  Speaker 1: I do the math.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm, I'm completely kidding. By no means was Drew
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  Speaker 4: Cain helping with this.
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  Speaker 2: And let's face it, before you, General Hospital, nobody knew
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  Speaker 2: about that show. It never made it. Exactly right.
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  Speaker 1: I put it on the show.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm so grateful to be the one to
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  Speaker 4: kind of get it out.
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  Speaker 1: They were like, General what?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, my first question to you is, and the way
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  Speaker 2: I'm even going to ask it is, there's obviously some
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  Speaker 2: negativity because you've dealt with, you've had a hell of
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  Speaker 2: a five years, you know, for people who don't know,
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  Speaker 2: between losing your mom, I guess, five years ago-ish?
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  Speaker 1: Yep. Sorry.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry about that.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Around the same time I lost mine, maybe just, maybe
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  Speaker 2: four years ago, right? You went through and beat cancer.
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  Speaker 1: I did.
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  Speaker 2: A separation divorce, a pending divorce, probably, or a long marriage.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but we've been separated now for almost four years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So that happened around just shortly after that time, too.
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  Speaker 2: So huge personal upheaval.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then you lost your house in the fires.
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  Speaker 1: And then, yeah, my house and everything.
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  Speaker 2: That's a hell of a five years, bro.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. And in there, too. Yeah. I, uh, I,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I lost my dog and I also lost
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  Speaker 1: my job during that time too. So it was my
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  Speaker 1: best job I ever had at home and family and
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  Speaker 1: on Hallmark channel.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Co-hosting that.
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  Speaker 2: That's where I met you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: First time I met you.
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  Speaker 1: Um, so that it was, it was a really, uh,
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  Speaker 1: it was a tough, tough stretch and, um, one thing
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  Speaker 1: after another, you know, and we've all, we've all got
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  Speaker 1: tough stretches and, and, you know, the reason why I
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  Speaker 1: love coming on and talking about this on one perspective
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  Speaker 1: is because people can relate to a lot of it
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  Speaker 1: in maybe just pieces, hopefully just pieces. Hopefully you didn't
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  Speaker 1: have a string like that, but it's really about what
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  Speaker 1: we do with it. And, um, yeah, I, um, the,
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  Speaker 1: by the time I got to losing my home. So
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  Speaker 1: by the time the fires came, this is if, if,
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  Speaker 1: for those that forget January of 2025, uh, Palisades and
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  Speaker 1: also the canyon fire, which is where my house was, um,
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  Speaker 1: I was, I was, it was, I was in a,
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  Speaker 1: it was a tough spot, right? Like my, my marriage was,
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  Speaker 1: it was something that I loved. And I, it was
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  Speaker 1: a surprise to me that, you know, it was going
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  Speaker 1: to end. And it was, it was a real heartbreak
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  Speaker 1: for me. My dog dying and my mom passing away
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  Speaker 1: and me getting through cancer and then the job. And
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  Speaker 1: there was other, a couple other little things too. But
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  Speaker 1: I had like, it might sound strange because everybody's got
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  Speaker 1: a different relationship with their home. But I had my home.
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  Speaker 1: I had the place where my kids were at. My
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  Speaker 1: kids had also left for college. So my kids had left,
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  Speaker 1: my wife had left, my mom gone, my dog, like
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  Speaker 1: this house that was full.
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  Speaker 2: Of life and energy.
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  Speaker 1: And we had been there for 15 years and kids
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  Speaker 1: were raised there.
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  Speaker 3: Married for 22 years?
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  Speaker 1: Married for 22 years, 22 and a bit years. And,
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  Speaker 1: and something about, but I had my home, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like it was a beautiful home. Everything that I, ever
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  Speaker 1: owned was in that home. Everything my kids owned were
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  Speaker 1: in that home. It wasn't the kind of thing where
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  Speaker 1: I had some stuff back with my parents and wherever, or,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I bounced around or I, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: I had a second home. Like that was, that was
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  Speaker 1: our place. It was like the home itself was a
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  Speaker 1: member of the family. And I, and I understand that
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  Speaker 1: maybe some people are kind of like, it's just a house,
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  Speaker 1: but it was really important to us. We were, we
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  Speaker 1: had that kind of connection with our home. So the
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  Speaker 1: morning when The fires were happening. I had, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I got, we all got evacuated and I'm sure, you know, many, many,
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  Speaker 1: many people that have told you similar stories. Um, I
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  Speaker 1: went down and I stayed with Vanessa, my, my ex
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  Speaker 1: in her, in the apartment that we had. And we
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  Speaker 1: were watching the news and I went up a few
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  Speaker 1: times to get stuff, but never really thought the house
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  Speaker 1: was going to burn. And, you know, then I went
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  Speaker 1: to bed and she was like watching the news and
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  Speaker 1: she woke me up at five in the morning. And
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  Speaker 1: she said, they're broadcasting from our street.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 1: The news, you know, they're brought. And so I'm now,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, what? Like, you know, you're waking up
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  Speaker 1: and I'm seeing the perspective on the street, but I
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  Speaker 1: can't see our exact corner. You know, we're like, we
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  Speaker 1: had a corner lot. And so I, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: got my car and I snuck up in the fires
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  Speaker 1: and there was, you know, houses burning around. I'm speeding
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  Speaker 1: through the street. I just kind of like, you had
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  Speaker 1: to know, cause, cause there were, sporadic houses that made
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  Speaker 1: it and i just had to know like you know
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  Speaker 1: it was probably a little foolish but my point in
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  Speaker 1: saying all this and getting back to you leading into
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  Speaker 1: this is that um the moment i come up and
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  Speaker 1: i we have a wall and you know this two-story
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  Speaker 1: house and so i could see the house over over
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  Speaker 1: the this front wall and there was nothing there and
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  Speaker 1: then i pulled the walkway and Even before this, I
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  Speaker 1: was hyperventilating. And even before this, it looked like nothing
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  Speaker 1: had ever been built on our block. It looked like
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  Speaker 1: the houses were below ground. And I'm telling you guys
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  Speaker 1: things that I know you already know. But below ground,
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  Speaker 1: there was nothing. There was chimneys and nothing.
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  Speaker 3: And you can't really, as you're saying it, you feel
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  Speaker 3: like you have to really explain it because people who
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  Speaker 3: have not seen it can't fathom the weight of it.
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  Speaker 3: Like we have a place in Malibu, so we know
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  Speaker 3: what you're talking about. You go back and it feels
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  Speaker 3: like a completely different place. Not only have you lost
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  Speaker 3: your home, you've lost your entire neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: It's absolutely true. And that's a, um, And in that moment,
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  Speaker 1: like you're alluding to, walking in, which felt like a
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  Speaker 1: war zone, it felt like a bad green screen in
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  Speaker 1: a movie. It was so bizarre. Orange sky, fires everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Like it was so surreal. But anyway, in that moment,
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  Speaker 1: I'm walking down the path and I'm videoing for Vanessa
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  Speaker 1: and I, you know, for the kid, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm videoing to show, cause I just, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: got to get in and get out of there. Cause
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  Speaker 1: the fumes and, And fire everywhere. And in that moment,
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  Speaker 1: like I've never heard those sounds come out, like hyperventilating,
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  Speaker 1: just in absolute shock. But I had little glimpses of, well,
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  Speaker 1: now it's all gone.
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  Speaker 4: Now, like.
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  Speaker 1: like almost a relief, almost like, okay, you've got nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Like I had nothing. I had five possessions. My kids
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  Speaker 1: were gone to college and wife's relationship over like dog.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's like, now there was moments where like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: This is, you know, who are you going to be?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What's this chapter going to be? It's a blank canvas.
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  Speaker 1: I do part two. Like, what is this going to
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  Speaker 1: be from now on? Now you really are going to
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  Speaker 1: sort of recreate yourself in a sense.
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  Speaker 2: You're literally forced to start over.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And those moments were rare, but like, you know, were fleeting.
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  Speaker 1: But they were there. And I remember them. And I
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  Speaker 1: remember feeling like, hmm. Now it's all gone now. And
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing that, cause I was really graspy at the house.
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  Speaker 1: Like I was like, I, it was the last thing.
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  Speaker 1: It was the last thing that I had. And then
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  Speaker 1: when that was gone, you know, here we go.
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  Speaker 2: Right. You're forced into what do you paint on the
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  Speaker 2: new blank canvas?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think that part of that had something to
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  Speaker 3: do with, because you said you were surprised that your,
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  Speaker 3: your marriage was over after so many years, but do
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  Speaker 3: you think maybe because the kids were gone, now the
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  Speaker 3: house is gone, you've gone through so much, your mom's
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  Speaker 3: no longer there. Did you feel at any point, like
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  Speaker 3: maybe this was all kind of leading up to accepting that?
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  Speaker 1: I absolutely like, there was a lesson here. There was like,
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  Speaker 1: if that's what you're getting at, like this was an
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  Speaker 1: opportunity for really deep acceptance for really like, and I
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  Speaker 1: think those were the sort of the fleeting moments. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to describe without saying like, yeah, this was,
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  Speaker 1: this was, um, it's funny cause that it seems so easy, um,
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  Speaker 1: to hear the word acceptance. I like to say patient acceptance,
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  Speaker 1: like really, peaceful, deep acceptance. It seems so simple and easy,
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  Speaker 1: but so often, and I can only really speak for myself,
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  Speaker 1: but I think in general, people resist. I can't believe
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  Speaker 1: this is happening. This isn't, how can this be happening
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  Speaker 1: to me?
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  Speaker 2: I refuse to believe this.
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  Speaker 4: I refuse, this isn't, and it's, my reality in that
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  Speaker 4: moment didn't match reality. My reality, there was like this
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  Speaker 4: disconnect and it was like, it wasn't jiving and we've
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  Speaker 4: all had things like that. but it's happening and you
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  Speaker 4: just got to accept. And in that place of acceptance,
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  Speaker 4: as people far wiser than me have been saying for
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  Speaker 4: a very long time in that place of acceptance is, is,
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  Speaker 4: you know, a multitude of solution. When you're in the
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  Speaker 4: mind of rejection, I can't believe it's tight and narrow
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  Speaker 4: and small. And there's no, you're not, you're just obsessing
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  Speaker 4: and you're stuck.
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  Speaker 3: Was there a moment where you thought like, this is
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  Speaker 3: just my new normal. I'm not getting past this. My
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  Speaker 3: life is now on a downward spiral. Was there a
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  Speaker 3: moment where you thought I can't.
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  Speaker 2: Deal with this? Or were you always with this great attitude?
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  Speaker 3: Like, did you always know that there was something better
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  Speaker 3: on the other side?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no. I was, I would definitely spiral like
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  Speaker 1: to your, yeah. Like I was like, what else? Like what,
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  Speaker 1: what else, what else can come? Like, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: almost dying from cancer, getting through it during my recovery.
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  Speaker 1: My mom gets diagnosed with brain cancer, passes away. I
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  Speaker 1: lose my job. People very, very dear to me almost died,
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  Speaker 1: which is, you know, not my story to tell. Then
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  Speaker 1: my wife wanted a divorce after 23 years, my dog
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  Speaker 1: died in my house, but like, it was, it was
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  Speaker 1: just like, bang, bang, bang. And, and so I was like, wow, like,
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  Speaker 1: What's next?
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  Speaker 2: What got you through it? I was going to say,
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  Speaker 2: did you have, for lack of a better term, a
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  Speaker 2: coping mechanism going into any of this, like spiritually or
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  Speaker 2: just from your past before this in terms of meeting
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  Speaker 2: adversity that you used to get through any of it?
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  Speaker 1: I would say yes to that. I study and practice
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  Speaker 1: and meditate in Buddhist psychology and philosophy and and really
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  Speaker 1: in a sense learning to be aware of sort of
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  Speaker 1: negative states of mind, of anger, of attachment, of jealousy,
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  Speaker 1: of fear, of anxiety and whatever, and catching them and using,
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  Speaker 1: you know, opponents, love, compassion, gratitude, patience, generosity, and training
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  Speaker 1: in these things through meditation and through study and through
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  Speaker 1: all sorts of different ways. And I, you know, I was,
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  Speaker 1: I was using those quite successfully through these different big
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  Speaker 1: life challenges that were happening where it really fell off
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  Speaker 1: was at the, it was at the, after the house,
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  Speaker 1: like after the house. And I say that, I think.
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean fell off?
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  Speaker 1: Like, like my practice of, of being mindful of, for instance, when,
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  Speaker 1: when I found out that, you know, Vanessa wanted a
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  Speaker 1: full separation and, you know, start seeing other people. I
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  Speaker 1: was at a real, real low in my life. And those,
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  Speaker 1: that spiritual practice, that, that training in, in, in meditation
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  Speaker 1: and that training in, in cultivating, you know, gratitude or
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  Speaker 1: love or compassion, or that's very powerful effect on the mind.
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  Speaker 1: It was the only thing that was saving me at
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  Speaker 1: that time. And I was really on it. Like I
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  Speaker 1: was on it. I would spiral, not sleep at night
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  Speaker 1: and won't eat. And then I would kind of get
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  Speaker 1: back to it and, and really just rely and rely.
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  Speaker 1: And it was very effective for me. Um, and trying
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  Speaker 1: to help others too. I was, I was, as we know,
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  Speaker 1: that's the real secret is just like trying to help
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  Speaker 1: others going through similar things. And then when the house
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  Speaker 1: came around and I lost, you know, you know, all
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  Speaker 1: physical things, everything, um, it was so overwhelming. It was,
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  Speaker 1: it's such a unique and strange loss, uh, that it's
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  Speaker 1: hard to describe. And I hope nobody has to try
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  Speaker 1: to figure it out, but it's, um, and, also because
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  Speaker 1: logistically it was a nightmare. Like logistically, it still is.
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  Speaker 2: We're still not done.
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  Speaker 1: You asked about my house.
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  Speaker 2: You asked about the property.
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  Speaker 1: The reason why I haven't started rebuilding and I've, I've,
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  Speaker 1: you know, purchased something else is it's still, it's, it's
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  Speaker 1: a nightmare. And, and for months and months, it was nonstop, nonstop.
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  Speaker 1: And so because of that too, you're getting worked up,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: you're focusing, you're doing logistics, insurance and lawsuits and, and
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: contents and, And, you know, structure, you got to get
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: the architect on. What was our housemate? Like you're getting
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: all these insurance, but it was so nuts. It was,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: you know, and, and I had support. Imagine for the
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: people that, you know, it's got to be so horrible.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: See, I think when you go through so much like that,
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: even if you are prepared and you have your practice
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: and you are, you know, generally grateful the way you
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: are and aware of all the things, there comes a
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: time when it's one hit after another, after another, after another,
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: where you just want to be like, Like I want
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: to wallow in this bullshit for a while. Like, like
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: I want to feel sorry for myself and I want
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: to feel like shit and just let me.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Right. But is that what you were alluding to? Because
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I felt like you didn't, when I said, what do
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: you mean it fell off? You mean that the, the,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: the aftermath of realizing the house is gone, all the
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: contents are gone and also the beginning of the nightmare
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: of insurance and like you said lawsuits and the thing
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: that's still to this day two years later going on
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: when you say fell out i'm just trying to be
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: uh clear and understand spiritual practice you went through a
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: period of why me why like so you didn't really
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: experience that before but it was really this was the
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: tipping point is what you're saying i.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I definitely handled things you know less than perfectly at
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: times before for sure but caught myself i feel like
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: i caught myself um you know, pretty.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Quickly and- Recalibrated.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, recalibrated and really tried to reframe it and understand
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: and like, you know, and use, these are not tricks
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: of the mind. These are things that are based in
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: like wisdom and logic and they're very, and they're real.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: It just takes you out of that spiral of anger
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: and anxiety and fear and into a more of a
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: real peaceful, you know, calm place. And when things got
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: just even more crazy after the fires and then like
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: logistically crazy, emotionally crazy, financially, you know, lost millions. That's
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: when I just, you know, there was more anger, you know,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: you know, I lost tons of weight. I couldn't, you know,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: it was, it was just, there was a lot of fear.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: There was a lot of what's going to happen. What's next.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: It was, you know, it, It was scary. And in
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: a sense, I mean, in a sense, there's still aspects
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: of that, of those things happening, but I'm in, I'm
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: in a much better place.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: What happened that where you realized, Oh, oh, that's why
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: all this happened? Was there a moment where you were like, oh,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: it all had to happen for me to either learn
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: this or appreciate this place or this time or this moment?
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question. I'm not sure I've fully
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: answered that. to myself, but what comes up for me
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: as you're asking it is, um, I feel like I've
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: probably been like a lot of people, maybe, um, I
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: don't know if this is going to make sense, but,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: but driven by everything, you know, going well externally. Like if, if,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: if things are going well externally, my relationship, my kids,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: my family, my house, my, things my job my my
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: my you know my whatever my respect in the business
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: my what all the if all these things are are
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: in the right place i'm good and if you put
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: your happiness and if you put your peace of mind
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: and your head you know you don't need me to
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: tell you this but in these external conditions and situations
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: and places and people and things and whatever you're doomed Yeah.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: If your happiness is in anything that can be taken away.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: You're doomed because that's, because life is, you're going to
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: go through stuff and things are going to be taken
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: away and, and we're going to get old and you,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: you know, you're bought this or you're like, you're, you
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: lose a job or you're going to lose a parent.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: You get like, of course. So I think even though
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I was practicing and I feel like I, you know, I've,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: you know, I've, I've studied these beautiful teachings for a
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: long time and meditate and try to incorporate them into
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: my life and make, there's still a part of me,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I think that was really hanging on. And, and, and
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: when the house went that, I think I, I make
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: up that that freedom that I felt at times, you know,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: at little blips was, there was kind of nothing left
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: to kind of grasp at. And, and now it was
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: up to me and that was up to me. And
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: of course, only real, true, pure, lasting happiness comes from within.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: It was from, it comes from, cultivating a peaceful, loving,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: compassionate mind, helping others, doing things. And then even in
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: the face of adversity, things are going well, right. Things
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: aren't going well, no problem. I got this because we're
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: good here. And I think I really trained like that
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: for a long time, but this was my test to
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: kind of really take it to the next level.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Well, I will say, Cameron, that had you sort of
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: immediately gone to I'm leaning into my practice and what
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I already know to be true. And I'm going right
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: to acceptance. And if that's the story you just told me,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I would have been really annoyed.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: If I said that.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Because I'd be like, okay, bull.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: No, yeah.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Because people need to hear, which is valuable in a
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: conversation like this for the people who are listening to this.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really inspiring and wonderful that you have found
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: or are still finding your way back to that feeling
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: that you had before through your other adversities. But to
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: have a tipping point, to have a thing that happens
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: where you go, oh, that's out the window right now.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I can't lean into that right now. I don't have
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: the capacity to just accept. I'm pissed. And it's okay.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: You know, it's okay. I think that there does come
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: a point. I mean, I feel this way about myself.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I feel about it with Daisy. I especially feel about
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: it with my three sons that there is a point
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: when you have to, okay, that's fine, but it's time
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: to like suck it up now. It's time to figure
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: out another path that isn't anger and that isn't pity
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: and self-pity. But it's totally okay to give yourself some
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: time to be like, I'm pissed off or I'm grieving.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: You know, on that note, and I didn't realize it,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: but on that note, because I was so programmed, you know,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: to try to kind of go to the solution quick,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: kind of like to your point, even though I was
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: having those feelings and those kind of spirals, but I
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: didn't realize. So we started talking about my character on
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: General Hospital, Drew Cain. I didn't realize like I was
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: getting a lot out there. Like I am an ass
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: on that show. And, and, and it's not that I
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: want to go around and being asked to people, that's
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: not it. But there was a, there was a release there.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: There was like a part of me there that just
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: wanted to yell and scream and cry and punch a
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: pillow or, you know, do all the things that you
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: do when things aren't, when you have horrible things happen.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: But that sort of part of me was sort of
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: coming out sideways with this character.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: I get that. I get that.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: The next day. The next day, literally after the fires,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I guess it must have been January 9th. I'm assuming
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: it wasn't the 8th. I'm assuming it was the 9th.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I went to General Hospital and I had like most
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: of the town, which is Port Charles, of people like
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: screaming and yelling at me and being mean to me.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: And after every take, they'd call a cut and they'd
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: be like, I'm so sorry.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. This poor guy's been through enough.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: But I got to give it to him back too,
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: like in that day. And.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: And there was some sort of a release there. And
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I think there still is.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But you're right. You're right.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, Cameron, we obviously can talk to you forever.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: And I think we will. I think we've run out
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: of time now, but let's pick this up. Talk about
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: his new Christmas movie and where he.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Is in life right now.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Thanks, Cameron.