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Skyhooks, Guy Fawkes and the pointy end of the Super Netball Season · No Dribble

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to a DM podcast.
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  Speaker 2: We'll try to keep it as nice as we can,
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  Speaker 2: but you might hear the occasional swear word in No Dribble.
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  Speaker 2: Don't tell Mom Hello and welcome to No Dribble, the
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  Speaker 2: podcast where we talk about netball, but we talk about
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  Speaker 2: so much more. It is a glorious winter day. I'm
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  Speaker 2: Carolyn Swindle. I'm here in Sydney, bright nearly and see
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  Speaker 2: you next to me, looking resplendent in pink.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, Catherine Cox. It is chills though, isn't
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  Speaker 1: it chilly on the Willie this morning?
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  Speaker 2: And that must be nice up north.
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  Speaker 3: So it's a little bit cold, lizell Us here from
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  Speaker 3: the northern Rivers of New South Wales, a little bit cold,
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  Speaker 3: but long weekend and it has and I say this
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  Speaker 3: very carefully because I know there are lots of parts
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  Speaker 3: of Australia that are in drought. But we have had
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  Speaker 3: nothing but rain for the last six weeks. So we
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  Speaker 3: had a weekend of no rain, and so we had
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  Speaker 3: a bonfire on Saturday night, which was great at a
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  Speaker 3: friend's place. But do you remember back in the day,
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  Speaker 3: the June Long weekend was bonfire night, wasn't it and
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  Speaker 3: you had firecrackers.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I grew up in Queensland where everything was illegal. No,
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  Speaker 2: you never had it?
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  Speaker 1: Was it called I've got Skyhawk Day in my head,
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  Speaker 1: Guy Fawk's Day or something.
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  Speaker 2: Sky Hawks, sky hooks, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Sky hawks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Guy Fawkes tried to blow up British Parliament in
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  Speaker 2: like for fourteen hundreds or something.
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  Speaker 3: But that's I Do you remember that, Coxy though, Carolyn,
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  Speaker 3: this you will just remember nothing obviously, but living in Queensland.
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  Speaker 3: But do you remember when you were a kid and
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  Speaker 3: like my dad used to get bags of firecrackers from
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  Speaker 3: someone at work and he'd come home from work like
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  Speaker 3: the week before, and he'd have all the firecrackers, like
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  Speaker 3: you'd have it like in your bag, and then I'd
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  Speaker 3: take the bag. There's no way you'd let your kids
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  Speaker 3: do this now. I would used to take my bag
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  Speaker 3: into my room and sort through it all. Yeah gunpat yeah,
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  Speaker 3: explosives in their room and I would sort through everything
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  Speaker 3: and then i'd like have a little stash and keep
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  Speaker 3: it in the suitcase. Fig use later in the year
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  Speaker 3: when it was really unstable.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Oh it was the best though, wasn't it?
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  Speaker 1: And touch would we were because we did it every
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  Speaker 1: single year without fail. We were never involved or with
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  Speaker 1: the group of people, were never involved in any incidents.
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  Speaker 1: But obviously there was a stack of them because you
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  Speaker 1: had to go right up to them like them, and
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  Speaker 1: then you know.
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  Speaker 2: You seem to have all ten fingers and well yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but it was the best. Wasn't that so fun?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I've got a scar on my foot from an incident.
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  Speaker 1: What happened?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, just what happened? Well, I was ten and stupid
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  Speaker 3: and I lit one and held it and then when
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  Speaker 3: it got hot in my fingers, I dropped it and.
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  Speaker 1: Fue. No, I wonder it was banns.
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  Speaker 2: We had to do in Brisbane was find some vacant land,
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  Speaker 2: start a fire and throw aerosol cans in it. That's
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  Speaker 2: what we had to do for fun, which was highly illegal,
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  Speaker 2: obviously and very poorly advice. So you just had to
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  Speaker 2: go tell you you know, you could just say to
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  Speaker 2: your parents, so we're off, see you later, yeah, and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: go off and do all this stuff. Now I can
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  Speaker 2: track my son wherever he is. He was in Cannable
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  Speaker 2: on the weekends, nearly seven hours drive away, and it's
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  Speaker 2: like I could see where he was from his phone
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  Speaker 2: the whole time.
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  Speaker 1: No idea, the old stalking in Life three sixty or
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  Speaker 1: whatever it is. I love it, Liza. I do remember, though,
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  Speaker 1: when I finally got to the Institute Isustralian Institute of
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  Speaker 1: Sporting Camera that all the talk was around if you
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  Speaker 1: wanted fireworks you could go to Fishwick. I think fish
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  Speaker 1: Wik was the place.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes you needed them together. That was only one weekend
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  Speaker 3: the year, I promised. But that's right. And the thing
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  Speaker 3: is though, like you need if you have fireworks, you've
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  Speaker 3: got to have a bit of space to let them off.
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  Speaker 3: But now we live on a farm, I'm like, fireworks
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  Speaker 3: are the devil that would send our cows nuts. People's
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  Speaker 3: dogs used to go insaye, I get it, Like my
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  Speaker 3: dog would be so scared if they were fireworks. Like
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  Speaker 3: when you think back to the seventies and eighties, you're like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my god, everything was so unregulated.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah and simple, yeah, yeah and dangerous. But yes, no
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  Speaker 1: one had a clue at the time, did they. Yeah. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: now listen, because of the barrage.
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  Speaker 2: Of abuse that I've copped from you, performance feedback is
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  Speaker 2: what you have. I have lovely okay to us, Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you belated you didn't make those.
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  Speaker 1: No, But I tell you, the happiest person in the
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  Speaker 1: room about this is me, because Lizzellasis will shock you
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  Speaker 1: more than anyone. I forgot to eat this morning. Wow
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  Speaker 1: what I know never in my life. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how it happened, but I bought these and I had
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  Speaker 1: them next to me in the car. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh god, they look really good. I might crack one
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  Speaker 1: in a minute. Then I thought, it's because I haven't eaten.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm slowly losing my mind.
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  Speaker 3: You are, because you know, we used to have conversations
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  Speaker 3: where we laughed at people who said they've forgotten to eat.
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  Speaker 3: I forgot that I don't have time to eat. We're like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my god, who doesn't have time to eat? Well,
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  Speaker 3: now it's twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: Or the girls who order a salad at the pub.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, come on, I know, really, yeah, a salad,
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  Speaker 1: but then a bottle of wine on the side. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's a balance, died, isn't it. Yeah? I mean I
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  Speaker 1: think about breakfast when I got to bed.
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  Speaker 2: Actually it was when I was I was going to
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  Speaker 2: a meeting at mcquarie Banks Sports about it wasn't It
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  Speaker 2: wasn't about the because I didn't have the kids at
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  Speaker 2: that start and have my son at that stage. But
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  Speaker 2: it was about something to do with your foundation, Liz.
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  Speaker 2: I think when Lewis was about eighteen months old and
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  Speaker 2: it was just one of those chaotic mornings and I
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  Speaker 2: had to drive into town. He's in the back seat.
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  Speaker 2: It's like he hasn't eaten. Pulled into a cafe and
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  Speaker 2: it went, yep, sure mate, it's a cupcake for breakfast today.
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  Speaker 2: This is the life of a working mother. Hey. It's like, look,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes sometimes you'll have a cupcake for breakfast and you'll
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  Speaker 2: be okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope that's the case, because I'm about to
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  Speaker 1: take a bite. You guys just talk among as.
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  Speaker 3: Long as over the course of the week, they sort
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  Speaker 3: of get exactly questable. It doesn't matter if it's a cupcake.
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  Speaker 3: Every now and then it was every morning that would
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  Speaker 3: be an issue, but every now.
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  Speaker 2: Well it does it does? They do tend to get
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  Speaker 2: excited though, it's like, oh, great, are we got to
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  Speaker 2: do this every day. We live not far from a
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  Speaker 2: primary school, and when he was about three, he went
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  Speaker 2: up to a fate and had a great day and
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  Speaker 2: then the next day wake up and said, can we
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  Speaker 2: go back to that thing? It's like, oh, mate, that's
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  Speaker 2: just that was like brigadoon, that thing that's once a year,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't that's he could didn't believe. We had to take
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  Speaker 2: him up and show him that the school was now empty.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a normal school. The school fate is over,
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  Speaker 2: the rides are gone.
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  Speaker 1: How good were school fades with the toffees? They are
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  Speaker 1: one hundred?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Did you have to be involved in planning one
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  Speaker 2: at all? Quite?
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  Speaker 1: Only on in.
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  Speaker 2: Lewis's primary school era, I was on committees and things.
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  Speaker 2: Oh a nightmare of organization these things. So thanks to
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  Speaker 2: everyone who does that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just reflecting on how motherhood is changed. So you,
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  Speaker 3: when Lewis was little, what fifteen years ago, you were
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  Speaker 3: beating yourself up because you gave him a cupcake for breakfast.
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  Speaker 3: Back in the seventies, no one beat themselves up for
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  Speaker 3: a lamb and their children to sit in their bedrooms
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  Speaker 3: with a bag of explosives.
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  Speaker 1: Or the parents smoking in the car with the windows yes,
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  Speaker 1: and the kids just in the back seat and hailing
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  Speaker 1: at all no seat belts. They were probably driving home drunk.
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  Speaker 1: Half the time from partisan barb bread. Yeah, I made
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  Speaker 1: the list go all the.
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  Speaker 2: Things, and here we are exactly caswine still having a
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  Speaker 2: cupcake for breakfast.
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  Speaker 1: Correct, and it was delicious and just had a bit.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks you.
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  Speaker 3: Inhaled that they didn't even touch the station.
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  Speaker 2: She's only had half of it to be here, but
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  Speaker 2: I did inhal it.
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  Speaker 1: You're right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was a great long weekend and I
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  Speaker 2: had fire too. We had cocktails by the fire last night.
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  Speaker 1: I saw that, No, I do have a fire on
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  Speaker 1: my television show. Yeah, yea, it's so good that I
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  Speaker 1: put that on sometimes. It's amazing how much warm you
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  Speaker 1: feel was watching it.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting, isn't it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a big glass of red, But no, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: have it. What were you drinking in your photo?
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  Speaker 2: That was the cocktail. It's called a boulevardier. It's like
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: a Negroni, but instead of gin, it's made out of bourbon.
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  Speaker 1: Delicious.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, very nice, get around it. Folks, highly recommend it,
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  Speaker 2: But yes, I did. I spent quite a lot of
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  Speaker 2: I had to extract myself from the TV yesterday to
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  Speaker 2: go and sit in front of the fire for a
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  Speaker 2: while because quite a lot of interesting netball happened on
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  Speaker 2: the weekend a lot.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of well, I don't know if the fever
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  Speaker 1: Swifts was considered an upset. I actually checked double check
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  Speaker 1: the extra time rules before that one, because I thought
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  Speaker 1: that's where we might be headed.
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  Speaker 2: But no, no, it's nowhere near. They could have probably
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  Speaker 2: wrapped it up fifteen minutes early. In fact, with the
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  Speaker 2: same result. There's some very interesting I imagine that there's
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  Speaker 2: some big conversation has already been happening in the Swifts
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  Speaker 2: over the last couple of days, because it's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: well things are good, but this is a this is
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  Speaker 2: a good, good shake up for us.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so needed. I reckon. We've said this
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  Speaker 1: a few times, but even Helen Howsby at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the game when she was interviewed, said having a
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  Speaker 1: win is great, and they've been doing that obviously consistently.
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  Speaker 1: Having a loss is a great reminder of what needs
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  Speaker 1: to be done, and they weren't disappointed about that, and
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  Speaker 1: they'd go back and have a good look over things
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  Speaker 1: and all the rest of it. So the fact that
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  Speaker 1: they lost three quarters is probably an area they need
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  Speaker 1: to look at. Only three games as well, so they
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  Speaker 1: just weren't winning ball back. Aside from that, it was
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  Speaker 1: so clinical. There was only twelve mistakes made from the
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  Speaker 1: swifts and ten turnovers from the West Coast fever. That
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  Speaker 1: is super low, even though it did get patchy at times.
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  Speaker 1: That's super low in terms of turnovers.
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  Speaker 2: I'd like to say, that's.
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  Speaker 3: Like Grand Final stats, isn't it like you would expect
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  Speaker 3: those stats from the two best teams in the league. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and lots of people pointing to the fact that this
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  Speaker 3: could have been a bit of a prelude to the
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  Speaker 3: Grand Finals. So yeah, that's super impressive from both teams.
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  Speaker 1: How crazy to think though, that that's the second bite
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  Speaker 1: of the cherry on each other. Now it is the finals.
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  Speaker 1: Next time they meet will be the finals, not where's
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  Speaker 1: the season.
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  Speaker 2: God, I'm going to say something controversial, and as we know,
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  Speaker 2: I've a very little time in a goal circle. I'm
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  Speaker 2: a bit bored with the holding shooter. I like to
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: I really enjoyed watching Lightning a little bit more movement
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  Speaker 2: in the goal circle there and things. It's just a
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  Speaker 2: little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that's controversial at all. I think most
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: people would agree with you. Yeah, there was plenty of
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: chat after that game around that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but here's a question for you. What would you
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: do about.
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  Speaker 2: It on a podcast?
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: Like you're not going to be able to say to teams, sorry,
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: you can't you can't recruit anyone over sixteen two. Yeah,
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: that's all there is to it. So like, then do
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  Speaker 3: you look at changing the rules? So what do you do?
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  Speaker 3: Do you say? Well, in that I don't know, do
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  Speaker 3: you say that the shooter can't stand in the circle
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  Speaker 3: for longer than five seconds at a time, which sounds.
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  Speaker 1: Basketball?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but what do you do about it other than
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  Speaker 3: prove that the moving circle is more effective? And I'm
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  Speaker 3: with you. I love watching like Vixen's and Lightning and
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  Speaker 3: just the speed of that ball movement. But until until
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  Speaker 3: they're winning, then, you know, I don't know what you can. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I genuinely do wonder about this, Like I hear people,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I hear that complaint that it's boring. What
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  Speaker 3: do you do?
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  Speaker 1: Well? The super shot was meant sorry, I got cupcaking.
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: What do you do? You keep calm and eat cupcuts?
• 11:41
  Speaker 3: That's exactly what.
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  Speaker 1: But that was the whole point for the super shop
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  Speaker 1: being introduced, wasn't it?
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  Speaker 3: Because it was and we do we see a lot
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  Speaker 3: more long range shooting now.
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  Speaker 1: But it doesn't hasn't stopped the tall shooter.
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  Speaker 2: I can't imagine that you would get Georgie Horge's shooting
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  Speaker 2: if there wasn't a super shot, would you, Because it's
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  Speaker 2: like she would just it would be so easy to
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  Speaker 2: shut her down, or easier to shut her down closer
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  Speaker 2: to the post, whereas when she's back at there. So
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  Speaker 2: it is. I think it is useful in that regard.
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  Speaker 2: I reckon, that's a team that'll be having even more
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  Speaker 2: serious conversations and the Swifts this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Well, funny you mentioned that because they shot two from
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  Speaker 1: sixteen super shots, that's it. Georgie sunk both of them. Yeh,
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  Speaker 1: Georgie Horgeous. The one that's not meant to be playing
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  Speaker 1: in the circle was the one that sunk the two. Interesting,
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  Speaker 1: how bad's that the Thunderbirds had twenty two more attempts
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  Speaker 1: and only lost by three. It was across the board
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  Speaker 1: stats were all almost exactly the same. The shooting percentage
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  Speaker 1: is where they lost the game.
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  Speaker 2: And this is not Shamira's Stirling Humphreys being on maternity leaf.
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  Speaker 2: You know she was nowhere near that end of the circle,
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  Speaker 2: not the end of the court.
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  Speaker 1: No, because they still got a ton of ball back.
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  Speaker 1: They still had like fourteen games, sixteen deflections and only
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  Speaker 1: eleven turnovers, and they were incredible everywhere else apart from
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  Speaker 1: the shot. I don't think I've seen the game as
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  Speaker 1: clear cart as that, as to where a team's lost
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: it before as that one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm too scared to sort of point to the shooters,
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  Speaker 3: because you know, my best friend's a girl shooter, and
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  Speaker 3: she'd always say to me, it's not just the shooters
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  Speaker 3: who lose it. So any of my best friends say,
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  Speaker 3: it's really clear cut, it must be really clear cut.
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  Speaker 3: But Ramalda had ten rebounds, right, so they had twenty
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  Speaker 3: two more shots, but they got the ball back what
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  Speaker 3: ten times? Yeah, so that's probably what might make twelve
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  Speaker 3: more shots. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they lost by three by three. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: percentage was seventy four versus ninety five. Well, yeah, the
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: Giants were fantastic. They completely deserved to win that game.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny, isn't it how there's just sometimes there's one
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  Speaker 1: team that's your bogey team? Yeah? Hows was the Thunderbirds
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: in the early days. Wasn't at least we struggled to
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  Speaker 1: beat them.
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  Speaker 3: Early days, middle days, later days used to be that true.
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  Speaker 3: We had like seventeen losses in a row to them
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  Speaker 3: from the start of what would we play then coming
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  Speaker 3: off bank trophy.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, back in the day, seventeen losses in.
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  Speaker 3: A row, Oh my god. Yeah, and you might play
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  Speaker 3: them twice or three times a year with finals like
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  Speaker 3: it took us years to beat them. And I remember
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  Speaker 3: the first time we beat them. I was driving out
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  Speaker 3: to Olympic Park and I'd finished work and I was
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: running late, and there was traffic, and I just had
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  Speaker 3: so much adrenaline. I remember pulling into the car part
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  Speaker 3: with my heart was racing, steam was coming out of
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  Speaker 3: my ears, and because I didn't have time to think
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  Speaker 3: about it, we just went out there and played and
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: it was just amazing. Just that first win was such
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: a watershed and we barely lost to them. We didn't
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: lose them a lot after that, like a few more times.
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  Speaker 1: But that's the whole mental thing, isn't it though, Like
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  Speaker 1: you get over and you're like, oh, we can beat them.
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  Speaker 1: So I wonder with this Giant's you know, thunderbirds thing.
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  Speaker 1: The Giants had only had one win before and it
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  Speaker 1: was against the Thunderbed. So did they go into that
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  Speaker 1: game going, oh, we've done it before, we can totally
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  Speaker 1: do this. Yeah, it's fascinating, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: So when you are so seventeen games that you haven't
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  Speaker 2: beaten this one team, so at game twelve, thirteen, fourteen
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  Speaker 2: that you've got, how do you keep I went on.
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  Speaker 1: The pisce the night before those ones.
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  Speaker 2: But like, how do you how do you keep the
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: faith that it's like this is because it must just
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: hang over you. It's like, oh my god, we can't
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: make it fifteen in a row. Now it'say, oh my god,
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: we can't make it sixteen in a row. But you
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: have to put that out of your head and play
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: the game that you're playing, don't you. It's like you
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: can't play those other sixteen games.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: You don't have a time machine.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: And we used to talk about the fact that we
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: started off seven players on court scores were even, and
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: he just said, yeah, but you sort of know, like
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: I got to the point and I thought it might
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: not have been seventeen, it might have been fifteen. It
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: was a lot, right, but it was I just started
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: to think, with every lost wrings is closer to the wine, right,
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: So eventually we had to win one.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: And you just learned a little thing extra every time,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: don't you.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and every time you sort of go and it
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: was mental like it was Thunderbeer's back then played a
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: really physical style of defense. It was Sarah Sutta and
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: kath Harvey and I think Vicky Neil might have been
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: their wing defense and it was their trademark and they
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: were so good at it, and we just had to
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: harden up. We just had to deal, right, You can't
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: just winge about it. You've actually got to do something
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: and deal. So we tried a few things.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: We had umpires come in because I remember Harbs was
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: quite I want to say dirty, let's say it, because
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: she was. She was probably one of the first players
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: to pull dresses down, you know, push shoulders down to
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: get herself up in the air and stuff like that.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: And it's so clever, right did it?
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: So no one saw like super clever And that wasn't
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: the only part of her game. She would also fly
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: for these beautiful intercepts. So yeah, just an amazing defensive unit.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Correct, But we also it was so frustrating in that well,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: like they're clearly being dirty, why not on all occasions?
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Just to say that first, But how do we then
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: show the umpires that's happening. And we had the umpires
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: come in and talk to us and they were like, look,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: we can't pull it unless we see it, so you know,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: if you guys can position yourselves in different And that
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: was the first time I thought, my god, that's so true.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Why has it not ever occurred to me the umpires
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: although they probably know what's happening, they have to see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: never occurred to me. I was It's like, what's obvious
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: that's happening, And it was obvious, but unless you see it,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: you can't just make calls. Fascinating.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: It's interesting, isn't it. But you know that we got
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: that first win and then we went to Adelaide and
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: we went into overtime in the semi. We were down
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: by seven in the last quarter and then we caught
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: it back when it overtime, won the semi, then won
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: the Grand Final, won the right to have the Grand Final,
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: and sitty and then we won the Grand Final. Like
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: it was just it was like this watershed moment, the
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: moment we got it was oh, that's what we do.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: It was amazing, right, and so it's fascinating then to
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: see like these things still playing out and Julie Fitzgerald
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: was our coach right now, she's still She's got this
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: history that sits on the other side now with the Thunderbirds.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: As the coach of the Giants.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: I might get it, just might talk to my under twelves.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: I've had to resort to saying when we win, I
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: will buy you war mcflurries at the following training. Really, yeah,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: that sounds good. Yeah, So what how are the Giants
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: feeling now? Are they like, are they thinking, all right,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: this is the you know, this is we've beaten seventeen
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: times in a row by the Thunderbirds, We've beaten them.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Now we're going to win everything. Are they now thinking
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: this is our win, We've done it. Where things are
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: the rest of our season is looking up? But where
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: are they?
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Do you think? Oh, they'll be very positive by that,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: And particularly with Casey Corpoy, that was only a second
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: game and she got a couple of big moments right
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: at the end too. She got the rebound that was
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe I've got the Thunderbirds another shot and
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: potentially taken the win. But those sort of things like
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I think the week before she's just trying to fill
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: it out and work out where she is and the
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: scheme of things and the contest and how hard it is.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: And she was good this game, she was better. I
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: think she's brought a lot of confidence to that side
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: that was probably down in a bit of a hole
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: after losing Jody Anne Wards. So I reckon there's a
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: few more wins in there. For sure. They're run homes,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: not great, but.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: At home against the Swift's next, I think.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: They've got yeah, and then the Swifts yeah. So I
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: mean it's not easy, but no week is easy. But
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I think they'll be feeling a lot better than they
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: were before that, for sure.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I just loved seeing Aeron O'Brien and Aaron was a
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: training partner for the Giants last year, I think, and
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: this year like this is her year. It's like this
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: is you know, Sharne Lambdon had so many years waiting
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: for her moment. Now she's having her moment. Aaron O'Brien.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: It's like, I just I love it. I love it
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: so much and it's just so great to see her
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: as player. Of the match. For what it's worth, that
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: would have been my player of the match too, making
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: it Aeron O'Brien. But yeah, it's yeah, fabulous, good good work.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Was nice that we met her mum at our function last.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Year, Yeah, that's right. Yeah. And second week she's playing
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: out of a position she was out at gold Defence. So
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: unreal to see the ladder though, so interesting now because
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: it was getting pretty chokers. Now it is literally spread
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: out by a win, so Swift's thirty two down Fever
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: down to Lightning, Vixen's Tea Birds who've just fallen out
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: of the top four, and then everybody else is on eight.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: That's where it's congested down the bottom. It makes it
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: very interesting.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: When you see that that ladder and Vixen sneaking up.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: There were the other two games this weekend, whether the
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: local local derbies derbies what do you guys say derbies
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: or Derby's.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I say Derby, but I don't know, I say potato potato.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, so two local potatoes, the Battle of the Bruce,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: and interesting to see Lightning did that reasonially easily in
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: you know the on the five Birds time ground seven.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: That seems sort of consolidate that third position. But you
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: know that that Vixen's Mavericks game, there's always just something
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: that little bit extras in there in the in the
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Derby's and you know Vixen's that was such an important
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: win for them to sneak up into that top four.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: So I reckon they're still a little bit to go
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: in the makeup of this. We've still got what six
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: rounds left, so five five rounds left, So I don't know, Catherine,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: do you? I mean, who can you count anyone out?
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: At the moment. You've got MAVs, five Birds, Giants on eight.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: That makes them what three wins out of the out
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: of the top four, So that makes it hard for them.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: But Thunderbirds are still there or thereabouts, aren't they?
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they are. I can't see any of the top
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: four slipping out of the top four. Now. I wonder
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: when the Vixens, one of the Vixens and t Birds
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: play each other next, that'll be that'll be a telling game,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: that one. I reckon. But the Vixen's talk of the
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Vixens MAVs game, Liz, because that's obviously a Newish rivalry
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: and that only played each other three times prior Vixens
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: had taken all three wins. It was that first quarter.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: It was seven zip to the Vixens within the first
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: five minutes. They came out of the blocks, but that's
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: where the margin stayed the entire game.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: So had it not been frustrating, we just had have
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: started better.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: So it had not been for that first five minutes
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: of the game it was, so it was only won
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: the difference in the second third and sorry, the second
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: third and fourth quarters after the blowout at the start,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I mean devastating that MAVs will learned from that. Obviously,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Kim Brown in a one hundredth game or so in
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: that one.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Was it Courtney Bruce's one hundred and fifty one fifty?
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The press conference after that game was fascinating too, though,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: because she talked a lot about how it was quite
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: a dark time when she was going through that injury.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I reckon it was worse than we all thought, and
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: she even talked about, you know, the potential that she
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: didn't get back from it and that could have been
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: the end of her career. And she talked about the
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: youth coming through and how they're the future of the
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: club and that she won't be there forever. So it
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: was all really it sounded quite final. So I don't
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: know if she's looking to this being a last year
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: or she's just you know, grateful that she got through
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: those injuries unscathed.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I just think, what is she thirty one?
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's not. I mean she's the same a just
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: most of the Australian team. I think they're all similar
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: in age. And now she's back to playing a best.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I'd hate to think she was going anywhere, but crazy
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: to think what the athletes are going through when they're
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: often injured and we just get on with it. We
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: talk about the ones that are on the court and
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: she's she you know, said a few times just how
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: difficult it wasn't a time for her.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's interesting, and you know, you wonder if she's
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: had to sort of look the end of her career
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: in the eye, that might just make a bounce back
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: a bit higher. Like you know, when I did my knee,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: I really had to had to ask myself, is if
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I played my last game in Nettie and am I'm
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: going to come back? And you know, you go one
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: of two ways. You just accept it and you just
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: you know, fade away or you go nah and bounce back.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: And I wonder if Courtney's had a good look and
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: she's you know, she's pretty relaxed about the fact that
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: there is youth coming through. But given that she's come
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: back and she's playing well, it's like maybe she's gone, nah,
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: I'm not over yet. Interesting to see.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: You knew you would always be coming back from your knee,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: They didn't you.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, eventually I did. But you know, the first couple
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: of weeks after you have a major, like after you
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: sustain the injury, you just don't know. And I had
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: I had a couple of people ring me who I
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: really respected and said you could retire now and there
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: would be no shame in it. There would be You've
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: done everything right. And and I had to sort of
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: sit and think, well, is that good advice? Do I
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: take that advice? Do I just accept that this is
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: the end? And I made the decision and thought, now,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: this is not the end for me. But I am
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: very comfortable with the I've got myself comfortable with the
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: fact that if I did everything that I could and
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: I didn't get back to where I wanted to be,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: that I would be okay.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: With that.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: But if I didn't try, then I would never be
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: okay with it, right, So you've got to like it
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: took me two or three weeks, and it was really difficult,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: as you know, Catherine, because the Commonwealth Games were coming up.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: The team had to move on because.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: They got the Naice track suits.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: They got the good track suits, even though a silver
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: socks from Coxie that I've still got in one war
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: drive that I pull out and laugh at. Anyway, that's
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: whole another story. But you know, you have to sort
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: of sit there and go You have to get comfortable
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: with the fact that you might not and the moment
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: you get comfortable with that, then you can. It gives
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: you the freedom to go hard and try because you
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: know that if you give it your absolute best and
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: it doesn't work, then that's okay. And so you know
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: he caught me talk about that. Maybe she's stead in
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: the face and gone, yeah, okay, I'm comfortable with that,
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: but I'm not going to accept it. That's probably the thing,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: and I'm going to go hard and see how good
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: I can be and how long I can play for.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: And I know I was also like that with my retirement, right.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: I knew I was, as Catherine knows, I had made
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: the decision earlier in the year, but I hadn't told anyone,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: But I knew that the World Cup was going to
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: be the end of my career. When people say, well,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: what if you had a lost and I was like,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: I got comfortable with that well before I made the
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: decision that if we had lost that World Cup final
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: or that World Cup, if we didn't win it, I
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: would have been comfortable because knew I gave it everything
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: that I had. Once you get comfortable with the worst,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: then you go now I'm ready to take on the best.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: I wonder too, because you had thank.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: You for coming to my Ted Talk, my Ted Talk.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: You had told me that that was going to be
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: your last game. And I wonder whether there were like
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: a few people like I'm not I was not in
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: your inner circle then or anything, but whether that was
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: part of you going I'm committing to this. I've made
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: this decision. I want to make sure I hold myself
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: to it, so if we don't win the World Cup,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: that I don't then try to go back. And you know,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I wonder whether in sharing that with a few more people,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: you know me completely irrelevant to your career at that stage.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Now absolutely integral to your career obviously, but whether you
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: were actually somewhat subconsciously going I am committing to this
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: and I'm going to hold myself to it by making
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: more people aware.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Possibly, And you know a few people did know,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: so Coxing you, I mentioned it to you, like my
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: agent knew, my family knew, Julie Fitzgerald knew, and You're
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: right like you sort of and you tested out to
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: say it to see if it actually makes sense. And
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: I remember when I told cox Is she did not
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: take the news.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Well, no, it did not make any sense.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: No, and we had to have a long lunch to
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: sort of work through it all. But I was pretty
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: committed to that was exactly what was going to happen.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: So it was awesome. So yeah, and like.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: It'll be interesting just watching Courtney then if she's she's
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: done that, I'm fascinated to see how well she goes
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: in in the next few years.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: So, speaking of fairy tales, we need to talk about
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: the Valor Ribber's chipping comp and what is happening there
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: so very few people I think it was the giants
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: when very few people anticipated that this weekend, So only
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: six people got bingo this week.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's amazing. I believe it. Yeah, that's good.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have expected that.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I was looking really good up until I got that.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I got the margin right, No, no, I did. I
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: didn't get these I tip the MAVs. I thought the
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: MAVs were going to get up to which you know,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: hindsight right twenty twenty. But anyway, so we had six
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: people got bingo. We have Dimmy who got the Valor
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Dribbler's weekly tipping comp. There three hundred and six people
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: got two points this week.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: That's all.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: That's what you got, is what I got. I think
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Lizzie only got one. Was only one home game that
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: was that went?
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, it would have been the Vixen's.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, that was a Vixen's home game, wasn't it? Yes?
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: So that was a So I prefer Quidditch is still
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: clear in top position and interesting on thirty seven points.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I prefer Quidditch has had bingo six out of nine rounds.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: So what are they? What do they want? We don't know.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Hayley, tell us your secrets. But there
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: are three people, four people sitting on thirty five points,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: one point behind her, and they have had been go
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Two of them have had it five out of nine
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: times and two of them have had it four out
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: of nine times. But I want to talk about something
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: much more import now, and that is the Golden Turkey.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: We have one person who is sitting clear in last place.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: That is Melly on twelve points. Now, you might think
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Melly just doesn't put her tips in Melly tips every
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: single week.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: One of Mellie's trying to lose.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but anyway, well so.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: And Melle, if you're not trying to lose, I'm sorry.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I think it's terrific.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: So as someone who's sitting in four hundred and twenty
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: first place, I want to be there with Melly at
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: five hundred and fifty first. So she's on twelve points,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: there's two people on fourteen points. That's soap and cozy.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Now they've had two rounds where it's just been the
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: default tips, but have also been tipping every other but
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Mellys has fastidiously and religiously entered tips every single week
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: and after nine rounds, has a score of twelve points. Melle, time,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: mel salute you as a lover of the game, and
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: we know that not all joy comes in winning. But yeah,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I think you're looking really good for the Golden Turkey
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: and I am rooting for you.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well done. I'm not sure what to say. I'm
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: just hoping that you're trying to tip the losing size. Dear,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Where am I these days? Where are you?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: You're sitting in eighteenth place, which is good. So Lez
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: is on seventeen points. So tipping only the home teams
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: has not is not the easy art. So you know,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: you would think generally it's a much stronger home ground
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: advantage than it is so to be. Yeah, so you're
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: sitting in eighteenth, Gordy's on three hundred and sixty sixth,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I'm four twenty first, Liz five hundred and forty third,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: And in our little sexy comp there are five cats
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: in the top ten. Yeah girls two Carolyn's two, Susan's
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: one Elizabeth. So yeah, so that's an interesting study of
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: our names versus our tipping competence.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Well done, everyone. Now I've got I've got some shout
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: out that's from socials. I still can't get hold of
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the messages that are in there. There's now six of them,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: and it's driving me batty because it's probably interesting stuff.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: What I can see those are the messages that go
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: on after we post something, so not the private messages.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: So off the back of the word will chat. Last week,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: so many people wrote up what their words are, and
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: this one made me laugh my head off. So Lisa Yop,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: her mum always chooses her word based on what's happening
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: that day, so she changes her word every day. So
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: she had a wedding one day, so she put lover
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: as her first word. She got it into it was
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: actually loser.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I cried.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I thought, I hope that's not a theme for the wedding.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: And then Lisa Green. I'm not sure if Lisa needs
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: a little hug or something, but the two words she
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: always starts with are steel or cheat. Be a tough
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: week for Lisa anyway, Thanks guys. It was very interesting
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: some of the words that came up there. I'm going
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: to use them.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: People feel very strongly about it. Someone suggested we play
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: a game and it's called Semantle, and I appreciate the recommendation,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: but this thing, it's like doing a two thousand word
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: jigsaw puzzle that you just go I can't stop this
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: because I've started it, but I'm hating this, so yeah,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: so I've done I tried Semantle a couple of times,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: couldn't do it. Tried Semantle Junior, couldn't do it. So
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: it's like, look, I'm I'm out, so you just have
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: to be I don't really understand how it works. It's
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: not based on the letters in the word. It's based
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: on the meaning of the word. And then you get
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: told whether you're cold or warm, and then you can
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: have as many hints as you want. By the looks
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: of things, I know, Yeah, it's just it's it's hard,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: and it was not good for my self esteem because
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I do tride myself on being reasonably good at these types.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: It's like, I don't even understand what's going on here.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, of course, first time I did it, I
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: didn't read the instructions because well, why would you. It's
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: just an online game you work out apparently not apparently
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: I couldn't do that.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, hey can we chat about quickly? To the World
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Cup format changes the world that's been released and it's
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: now they're playing for a World Cup, and then there's
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: a plate on offer. So what that means is that
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: the top so after the first round, where you basically
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: play your own pool, it kind of decides who the
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: top eight are and who the bottom mate are. The
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: top eight obviously play out for the World Cup and
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: then the bottom mate have their own competition then and
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: they will play for the plate, which is I think fantastic.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: So it keeps competitiveness across the World Cup going a
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: lot longer, and also fan engagement so you know, supporters
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: of whichever country can still go and see something fantastic
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: playing off, which I love. I also love that it's
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: going to be one venue only, so every single country,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: every single game will be on the one court, which
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: will be amazing. So some of the smaller countries get
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: to play on the court that will eventually have the
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: gold medal game on it. But the best bit is
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: it's now played across twelve days, which for player welfare
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: well being, I think it's firstly so important because otherwise
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: it's every day, and by the end of it, when
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: you get to a gold medal game, it's literally survival
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: of the fittest, isn't it. Whoever you can get on
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: court with all their limbs still attached and can get
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: through that final sixty minutes wins the gold. But I
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: also think it's really good because the hype of a
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: World Cup is so great, but then its ours is
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: over so quickly. So I love that this is going
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: to have a little bit longer for people to get
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: on board the train, enjoy you know, what's happening all
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: around it, and the hype of it all I think
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: is really cool.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: So I hope it is sustainable from a crowd perspective, so,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: you know, like the men's sports. So I got on
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: a queue last week and got some tickets for the Ashes,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: and when I got online the pre sale, I was
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: nearly one hundred and seventy thousandth in the play. We
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: don't get those sorts of numbers for our sport. Yet
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: it's growing and it's certainly, you know, certainly improving, but
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: I just worry about if you extend it. You know,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: people have been traveling and they go, I mean, I'll
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: go for the whole time. Can they go for twelve
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: days of it? If it's all in one place, and
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: you know, like the Rugby World Cup, they have games
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: in different places and things, and crowds will move around
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: and follow it, or you've at least got the local
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: crowd from you know, the Melbourne people and the Geelong
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: people will go to the games that are in Melbourne
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: and whatever else and everyone will travel for the finals.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: So I just I really like the sound of it,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: but we need to get behind it, you know, we
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: netball fans need to need to physically show up to
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: this stuff.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Like it's just.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: My lesson is now over.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: I do think though, it's an important change with the
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: cup and the plate, for like, for those lower rate
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: nations to a still be playing for something. But if
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: you're rate ninth in the world, but you can go
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: back to your government and say, yeah, we want a plate,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: it actually helps you out when you're looking for funding
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: and investment from your government. So it's actually a really
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: important thing for those lower rate nations to be able
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: to create that second tier so that they are competing
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: for something and they can come home with some silverware.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess it's tough though, if you if you
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: come eighth in the top tier and it's like, well
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: we'd come ninth, we would have had we'd have a blake,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: but we have nothing.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: But that's interesting because I wonder if people will jostle
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: for that. I mean, I guess you'd have to keep
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: an eye on the scores because also the scores that
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: accumulate in the first round of the pool, then it
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: goes back to zero after that when you move on
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: to the next one, so it starts again. That's how
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: they will determine eventually who wins the thing. So it's interesting,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: but I love the changes made. Yes, I think that's
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: very exciting.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: I think the crowd stuff is interesting too. So back
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen there were bumper crowds and I'm actually
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: quite confident that those bumper crowds will turn up again.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: But then it's just, you know, the new CEO has
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: been announced. He's seen how Football have run their Women's
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: World Cup, and the way you sort of attract those
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: crowds is to create a real carnival sort of atmosphere
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: around the game. So to make sure you've got something more,
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: you know, than just turning out to a netball game.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: There's lots to do and Sydney's a big enough city
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: that I think we could sell it out and then
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: you get people traveling probably for the start or for
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: the end. So it's just about making sure the offering's
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: really good.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Well, I hope so, yeah, I mean twenty fifteen was amazing.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: But anyway, it's just an observation that it's like we
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: are not and we're not. No one's spending as much
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: on netball tickets as they are on AFL and rugby,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: and that's good. I think it's good. I don't want
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: the sport to start pricing it, you know, astronomically like
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: those are, But I just I hope that the crowd
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: will move with this. But you know, like you, I'm confident,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: we're loyal, we're.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Dedicated, and start saving the money now, because you'll also
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: a live event for No Dribble somewhere in the mix.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Very good.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: So we are. We are having some trouble here with
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: the connectivity. Obviously, the fine weather up in the northern
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: New South Wales is making the internet go a bit haywire.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: So but I think that that's probably almost all we've
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: got time for anyway. Today, it's yeah, it's been another
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: great week Round nine. Only got a few more weeks
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: to go, and yeah, it's just getting more and more exciting. Oh, Liz,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: I do want to point out last week you said
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: the bottom four ranked teams will have a huge say
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: on who the top four are. And did that not
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent come true on the week that we
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: have just seen. So every game is.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Exciting and yeah, go.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Netball, Go netball, and thanks for the cake, Oh pleasure.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: I do feel sick. I do feel sick. Just how
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: good was the icy butter cream?
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: But in my happy birthday to us? So just final shout,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: We've got to talk about Patrick the Mopman being on
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Sunrise and giving the podcast a shout out. God love him?
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah you Patrick, and he did a little dance.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: You had a little thing going on. Yes, So I
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: have a plan, And Liz, your internet isn't working so
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: I won't be able to hear if you refuse to
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: do this. But I'm going to get Patrick to choreograph
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: a dance for the three of us. Oh Jesus, oh God,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: oh your frozen. So I can't hear you. Yeah, okay
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: in favor say nothing, okay, so passed.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: No, I'm saying lots. I'm saying lots. I'm talking. I'm talking,
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: I'm talking, I'm talking.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: We got ere you.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: I need instant to warm up though, because he has
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: got a high kick on him, he does hammy snaps.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Oh gee. I laughed though on Sunrise that they he'd
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: just come off doing this very athletic little performance and
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: then they go straight into an interview and yeah, so
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: my thoughts went out to you, Patrick, because that's how
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I feel every time I wring my mother if I'm
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: out for a walk, I hang on mum. Now I'm
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: just gotta you talk.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: For a bit.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Alrighty well, everyone, have a great week. Don't forget to
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: put your tips in for the Valor Dribblers tipping camp
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: and uh yes, stay six see guys. Bye bye,