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3 Guys Before The Game - Rich Rod Visits (Episode 612) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, here we go. Welcome in everybody. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: time for three Guys before the Game. We got one
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  Speaker 1: for you. Rich Rodriguez is our special guest. It is
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  Speaker 1: episode number six hundred and twelve. Three Guys Before the
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 1: here we go, let's do this thing. We are We're
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  Speaker 1: pleased and honored to have Mountaineer football coach Rich Rodriguez
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  Speaker 1: with us, and I'll tell you what, man, you have
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  Speaker 1: been one busy dude. You were in Florida. You were
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  Speaker 1: in Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Yesterday, yesterday, back last night. But here's the first question.
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  Speaker 2: I have six hundred and twelve episodes. Either you're really
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  Speaker 2: old or you're doing ten a day, which one isn't.
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  Speaker 3: Here's what's interesting though, it's not his first appearance on
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  Speaker 3: this podcast. It's your second appearance. You joined us from
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  Speaker 3: the phone backs what four or five years now?
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  Speaker 1: Do you have a house in South Carolina? You were
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  Speaker 1: somewhere at the Georgia Georgia where were.
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  Speaker 2: You had a lake house there? Stupid and so so
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  Speaker 2: I don't have anymore. But no, I've been on a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of a countrywide tour for seventeen years, out
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  Speaker 2: in the desert, down in the bayou, in the on
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  Speaker 2: the lakes of Georgia. So now happy to be home. Thanks.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, dude, there are still days
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  Speaker 1: over the last couple several weeks, we're just like, for
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  Speaker 1: whatever reason, during the course of a day, I'll just
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  Speaker 1: stop and I'll just think Rich Rodriguez is a football
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  Speaker 1: coach at West Virginia. I mean, it just it just
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  Speaker 1: blows my mind that it's happened.
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  Speaker 4: It's just it's like.
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  Speaker 2: It is, it is. You know, we mentioned it, We
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  Speaker 2: talked about it for being a little surreal, and it
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  Speaker 2: really is because it doesn't happen that often, and particularly
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  Speaker 2: with that long of a gap in between. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm very fortunate, as I said before, blessed to be
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  Speaker 2: able to do it and excited. And then I walked
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  Speaker 2: into the building. I hadn't been back in the building
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  Speaker 2: in seventeen years, and I'm like, boyd, look what they
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  Speaker 2: did with the place, right It's it's amazing. So and
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  Speaker 2: we've been so busy. I probably it's been good because
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to reflect too much anyway, but it's
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  Speaker 2: like today, we had work out today and Dan Moses
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  Speaker 2: was there, you know, and a lot of our young
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  Speaker 2: guys they see his picture, but they don't know who
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  Speaker 2: he is, you know. And I hadn't seen him in
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  Speaker 2: years as well. But that's so it's kind of neat
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  Speaker 2: to do that. But at the same time, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to reflect, but you got we got a
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  Speaker 2: job to do now, and we're My focus is totally
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  Speaker 2: on what's going on right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, You're one hundred percent right, because obviously, as you
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  Speaker 1: said in your press conference when you came back in,
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  Speaker 1: you said, I I've got unfinished business, which is exactly
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  Speaker 1: what you feel and was exactly obviously the fan base feels,
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  Speaker 1: because you're not coming in here to retire. You're coming
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  Speaker 1: in here to crank the thing back up and win
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of games.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think maybe a little bit of what
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  Speaker 2: we did in the past obviously helped me. You know,
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  Speaker 2: no West Virginia know what this place is about, and
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  Speaker 2: gave me a chance to maybe come back. But I
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  Speaker 2: think more than anything, I probably got this job because
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  Speaker 2: of what went on the last few years at jack
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  Speaker 2: State and be able to win. You're not going to
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  Speaker 2: hire rent and the folks aren't going to hire somebody
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  Speaker 2: just for sentimental reasons. They're hiring somebody they expect to
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  Speaker 2: win football games. And I know that pretty well. And
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  Speaker 2: I like to think, you know, you know, as I
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  Speaker 2: know we talked about it before. I'm a better coach
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  Speaker 2: now and I was seventeen years ago. I'm a better
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  Speaker 2: coach now and I was last week. I'll be better
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  Speaker 2: coach next week. As I learned my players each and
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  Speaker 2: every day too. So that's kind of the expectation I
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  Speaker 2: have for our program is we got to get a
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  Speaker 2: little bit better every day. And we haven't almost a
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  Speaker 2: whole new team, you know, because there were a lot
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  Speaker 2: whole bunch of seniors that you know, really good players
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  Speaker 2: that left, and we had a handful of getting a portal,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't know, we replaced about twenty seven twenty
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  Speaker 2: eight in a portal. We're going to sign a few more.
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  Speaker 2: There'll probably be a handful more in the spring, and
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  Speaker 2: then we got to coach them up.
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  Speaker 1: Easier or harder to rebuild this roster than you thought
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  Speaker 1: the day you took the job.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably easier than maybe it was twenty years ago
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  Speaker 2: because of the transfer portal. Harder. From the standpoint is
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  Speaker 2: that now you know, there's other things in play when
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  Speaker 2: guys choose a school. Let's not be kidding the kidding
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  Speaker 2: ourselves about it. You know, before it was like your environment,
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  Speaker 2: your education, you know, your facilities, your schemes, and that's
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  Speaker 2: all a little bit part of it now, but it's
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  Speaker 2: also about you know, what kind of deal am I
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  Speaker 2: getting from a transfer guy? And so in the team
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  Speaker 2: culture is what's sacrificed. And that's the thing that we
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  Speaker 2: have to make sure we don't sacrifice our team culture
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  Speaker 2: for any player, no matter who it is. And it's
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  Speaker 2: hard to do that. So I see a lot of
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  Speaker 2: coaches they say I got them all about culture, this
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  Speaker 2: and that, but they're not because you see them sacrifice it,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's through transfer, portal guys, or their methods or
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  Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it.
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  Speaker 3: That's the part that was so wild though about this
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  Speaker 3: rebuild is you were, in essence building the plane. While
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  Speaker 3: flying it, you were not only trying to get players.
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  Speaker 3: You needed bodies one, you needed good players too. You
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  Speaker 3: were assembling a staff three. You were trying to put
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  Speaker 3: nil packages together. But yet you don't totally know where
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  Speaker 3: that's going to land. That's a lot going on at
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  Speaker 3: one time other than just taking a new job.
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  Speaker 2: And the culture is an everyday thing. People have said, well,
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  Speaker 2: it's like it's just something that's created and then everybody
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  Speaker 2: adapts to it. It's something that you have to work
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  Speaker 2: on every day. You know. Here, I think it's probably
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  Speaker 2: better a place like West Virginia because football is important,
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  Speaker 2: it's important to the state. You got a hard work
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  Speaker 2: and culture already built in in the environment, so to speak,
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  Speaker 2: but you still have to work on it every day.
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  Speaker 2: And today was our first day of what we call
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  Speaker 2: toward do. That helps, and that helps to have a
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  Speaker 2: culture too. But I'm also got you know, I've got
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  Speaker 2: a really good staff, a big staff, but I've got
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  Speaker 2: a really good staff that you know, a lot of guys.
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  Speaker 2: Guys are new I say new, they're they're guys that
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  Speaker 2: are haven't I haven't coached with before. So they have
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  Speaker 2: to learn what we're doing too. So it's the first year.
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  Speaker 2: The first six months is always the hardest, and then
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  Speaker 2: if we do our job, then after that the only
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  Speaker 2: people is the handful of new guys every year. They
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  Speaker 2: got to learn what we do coach.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to believe the point, but I do
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  Speaker 4: want to ask you about December two thousand and seven,
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  Speaker 4: and you said over and over you said that leaving
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  Speaker 4: was the worst professional mistake and how you left was
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  Speaker 4: the worst personal mistake. And I don't believe you have
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  Speaker 4: to spend your whole life saying that.
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  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I won't, but I have I will,
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  Speaker 2: you know, at least the first year, right, you know,
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  Speaker 2: but uh, you know, they deserve everybody wants every everybody wants,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and really not a lot of people. I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna cut you off, but a lot of people haven't
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  Speaker 2: asked that I thought they would ask. But I don't
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  Speaker 2: blame I don't blame them if they do, So you know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't mind talking about it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Well, here's here's one thing I'm curious about, is
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  Speaker 4: that everybody was devastated, particularly about the about the Pit loss,
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  Speaker 4: and then the Michigan job came along. And I'm just
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  Speaker 4: wondering whether it was the lure of Michigan, whether it
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  Speaker 4: was differences with the administration, whether it was the Pit loss,
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  Speaker 4: whether it was other issues, what specifically tilted you in
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  Speaker 4: the direction of leaving. I mean, you had the Alabama
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  Speaker 4: job previously, didn't you for that?
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  Speaker 2: So what what?
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  Speaker 4: What were the weighing factors on you?
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I didn't I didn't go to Alabama.
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  Speaker 4: No I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, that was the year before then, you know.
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  Speaker 2: But uh, you know that that is a loaded question,
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  Speaker 2: and it's probably not. There's not as simple as the
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  Speaker 2: Pit loss. As was the worst professional day of my
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  Speaker 2: career and always and it has been, and probably hopefully
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  Speaker 2: I always will be the worst to he want anything
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  Speaker 2: worse than that, right, But that that really didn't have,
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  Speaker 2: That was non impactful on anything that happened afterwards. There
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  Speaker 2: was some frustration I had, you know, it wasn't as
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  Speaker 2: much administrative frustration as maybe what was out there, but
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  Speaker 2: there was some frustration because I was losing coaches and
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  Speaker 2: we thought we had built one of the best programs
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  Speaker 2: in American and I wanted to keep it there, and
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to keep my coaches and my staff there.
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  Speaker 2: And well, I thought what I was asking for at
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  Speaker 2: the time was was reasonable. Like I can remember, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't know all the factors. I do remember asking
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  Speaker 2: for fifty thousand dollars more to pay for my staff total,
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  Speaker 2: not individually total, And I thought, geez, you know, we've
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  Speaker 2: had a great year. We could probably get that. And
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  Speaker 2: and I was told not by not by Eddie, but
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  Speaker 2: by administration above him, that we've done all we can
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  Speaker 2: for you take or leave it. And they wouldn't, and
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  Speaker 2: they wouldn't give me the fifty thousand. And that was
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  Speaker 2: I was a little bit and I was already kind
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  Speaker 2: of down because we had lost a pitt and and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I still think I got a great staff.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to lose these guys. And so that
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  Speaker 2: that was that was maybe the tipping point for me.
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  Speaker 2: But UH had had I had had I calmed down
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  Speaker 2: from the frustration from that, and then UH saw where
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  Speaker 2: we were at and realized, hey, I had it better
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  Speaker 2: here then Michigan had it. Had I visited Michigan, I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't take the job because our facilities were okay, but
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  Speaker 2: Michigan's had a Michigan had a whole lot of work
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  Speaker 2: to do too. They didn't want to hear that because Michigan,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they like to be Michigan and they don't
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  Speaker 2: have to do anything right. But so, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: I had some things and there were some other things
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  Speaker 2: that we had that I was a little disappointed in
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  Speaker 2: with some of the fundraising money that we had gotten
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  Speaker 2: in the eleven hundred club, and it wasn't going to
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  Speaker 2: where I thought it was supposed to be going to,
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  Speaker 2: and some other things. But I just I probably made
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  Speaker 2: I think I matched. I probably made an emotional decision
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  Speaker 2: at an emotional time when I should have just probably
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  Speaker 2: settled down a little bit and talp thing through.
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  Speaker 4: One other questions on that. Was there any point when
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  Speaker 4: you went to Michigan that day or a week later
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  Speaker 4: or a month later, when when when you thought yourself,
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  Speaker 4: oh oh yeah, how soon?
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  Speaker 2: Well it might have been the opening press conference. We
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  Speaker 2: were misreading and I were walking in there and a
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  Speaker 2: gentleman said, boy, we sure hope you guys can fit
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  Speaker 2: in here. I'm like, what is this a cult or something?
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking about there? So you know, but I was,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't, you know, that was just a minor thing.
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  Speaker 2: But uh, I'll say this way. The ad that hired me,
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  Speaker 2: Bill Martin's a great guy and and he kind of
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  Speaker 2: knew what we were going into. And you know, kind
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  Speaker 2: of without reflecting. I am reflecting, had Bill been able
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  Speaker 2: to stay the a D and we were we we
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  Speaker 2: have been okay there. You know, it was kind of slow.
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  Speaker 2: It was a lot slower build thing they wanted. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't blame them because they're used to winning, but
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  Speaker 2: I thought we we had to build a lot more
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  Speaker 2: than I thought. But we were getting there, and especially
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  Speaker 2: about a third year. But then when the new ad
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  Speaker 2: comes in it's not Bill Martin. It changed everything and
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  Speaker 2: so you know again that you know, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: you know, the West Virginia folks probably don't want to
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  Speaker 2: hear about all that, but it uh, you know, we
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  Speaker 2: you know, my frustration here was not anything to do
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  Speaker 2: with obviously the state or the program or you know,
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  Speaker 2: and even the administration. There was some stuff of it.
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  Speaker 2: I just thought that, boy, I want to win a
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  Speaker 2: national championship and it was getting harder and harder and harder,
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  Speaker 2: and I wanted to make it easier and easier and easier.
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  Speaker 2: And so emotions played a lot in that.
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  Speaker 1: With that being said, you know, they always say rich
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  Speaker 1: that West Virginia is a unique job. Well, now you've
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  Speaker 1: been to Michigan, you've been to Arizona, you've been Louisiana,
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  Speaker 1: you've been to Jack State, right, uh, and spend the
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  Speaker 1: whle miss as well. So knowing how it happens at
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  Speaker 1: other places, how unique is this job? And the intellectual
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  Speaker 1: property that you probably have to have to know this
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  Speaker 1: place in order to win here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think knowing the place helps. But I think
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  Speaker 2: if you're a good coach, you you know you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: learn pretty quickly no matter where you're at what you
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  Speaker 2: got to do to win. If you're a competitor, you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna You got to know what the answers are, you know,
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  Speaker 2: to your problems. The biggest thing about this place for me,
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  Speaker 2: especially now as I already know where all the bodies
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  Speaker 2: are buried, the traps are laid, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: So that helps. Every place I've gone. Else I've gone to,
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  Speaker 2: you had to learn it, and you would try to
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  Speaker 2: learn it quickly. Here you still some learning to do.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we're in a new conference, we're in a
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  Speaker 2: new era with the Niel and all that kind of stuff,
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  Speaker 2: the portal, but uh, it's easier for me to kind
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  Speaker 2: of understand what this state's about, what the people about.
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  Speaker 2: You know, West Virginia has always been, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 2: always been kind of an underdog state. You know, people
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  Speaker 2: that do something that nobody thought they could do in
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  Speaker 2: all walks of life. You've got very very successful people
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  Speaker 2: in the state that have made you know, great careers
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  Speaker 2: and nobody thought they could do it here. And to me,
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  Speaker 2: that's what West Virginia is. You know, the hard working
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  Speaker 2: people that do something but people didn't think they could do.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, we've done that here in West Virginia
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  Speaker 2: in several sports. You know, we've done it as a university.
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  Speaker 2: People have done it in their personal business and and
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  Speaker 2: so I understand all that part. And that's I think
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  Speaker 2: gives me advantage here. And it's not a big state
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  Speaker 2: from you know, Division one talent. There's some players every year,
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  Speaker 2: but we're close enough to a lot of good players.
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  Speaker 2: But I think at the same time, the West Virginia
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  Speaker 2: is unique is that there is no you know, other
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  Speaker 2: no professional sports, no NBA, w n b A, in
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  Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, NFL. We're the only power for school
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  Speaker 2: obviously in the whole state. And that makes us very,
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  Speaker 2: very unique, and it gives us the attention in the
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  Speaker 2: audience that's unique across the country.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk offense for a second. When you were here
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  Speaker 3: last that last stretch of three years was unbelievable. Combine
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  Speaker 3: your innovativeness with elite skill, and when we saw where
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  Speaker 3: that took this program. What's different about you as an
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  Speaker 3: offensive play caller and the offensive system in general since
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  Speaker 3: we saw it last year in Morgantown.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we're still going tempo. In fact, we're probably going
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  Speaker 2: faster now than we have is because everything you learn, like,
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  Speaker 2: oh geez, you know this, you coaches all copy right,
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  Speaker 2: You know, they see somebody else do something that's really good.
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  Speaker 2: We need to see if we can do that, right.
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  Speaker 2: But there's other things that you hold to that you
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  Speaker 2: think are unique or at least something that gives you
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of an edge, anything that gives you
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  Speaker 2: an edge, right, And the tempo part, I'm thoroughly convinced
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  Speaker 2: that that is the one of the unique things that
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  Speaker 2: we do that we won't sacrifice on. Now, that doesn't
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  Speaker 2: mean we still won't huddle much because who wants to
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  Speaker 2: watch a bunch of fact guys hold hands, right, But
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  Speaker 2: when we do, you know you're not going to when
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  Speaker 2: we break the huddle, you know, So the tempo of
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  Speaker 2: I guess, I guess the temple when we snapped the
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  Speaker 2: ball is always going to be unique for us. How
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  Speaker 2: we control that, I think that's one thing that that
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  Speaker 2: you can control offensively and then scheme wise, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we've gone from more. You know, everybody wants to throw
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  Speaker 2: the tight end right, tight ends always opened. Well, you
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  Speaker 2: know I've heard that for fifty years, the tight ends
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  Speaker 2: always open. But the truth is we're probably we're using
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  Speaker 2: more eleven personnel with a tight end than we ever have,
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  Speaker 2: you know, So it's eighty percent, probably seventy five percent
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  Speaker 2: of the time, we're eleven personnel, and they were using
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  Speaker 2: even some twelve and thirteen personnel with two and three
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  Speaker 2: tight ends, so that that's changed a little bit as
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: well with that, and then the run game, you know,
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: is very sim We're still always going to play with eleven.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: You know, our quarterback might not run it thirty times,
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: but he's you know, have the ability to run a
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: thirty times if we have to to win the game.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: So we're a little bit you know, unique in that.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: But it's what's kind of funny. I love watching the
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: NFL games when I get a chance. And it used
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: to be college in high schools used to copy off
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: the NFL, and that's what they get. Now the NFL
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: is copying off of college in high school. And you
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: watch Jalen Hurtch, you know, they're not running that guy,
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: you know, thirty times a game because he's seventeen percent
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: of their salard cap, right, but they're gonna run him
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: enough to win the gate. And you're seeing athletic quarterbacks
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: last longer than unathletic ones because they're not getting tackled
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: by the big guys and so we've always gonna you know,
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: whether whoever our quarterback does well, we're gonna feature, but
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: we're always gonna play with.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: Eleven coach on that. Let's expand on that because at
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: jack State, your second leaguing rushing last year was your
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: quarterback like twelve thirteen hundred yards. So as you figure
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: out who the quarterback is going to be for this year,
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: are you looking for a thousand yard rusher in a quarterback?
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: That's a good question. And Tyler Huff, who gained twelve
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: hundred yards, was about six foot two hundred and fifteen
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: pounds around a four to eight forty downhill with the wind.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: But he was tough and he was competitive and he's
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: a willing runner. And we didn't tackle why much. You know,
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: he just got and he's just one year guy, came
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: up from firm, and then we really didn't know what
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: we had with him as a runner because we don't
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: have our quarterbacks live in camp. And then all of
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: a sudden, a couple of games you start seeing him
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: and he had just enough willingness, just enough wiggle to
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: make a five yard run, an eight yard run and
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: it gave a hold. He know, he was player of
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: the year in the league, and he gave us another dimension.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: So you don't have to be the Pat White fast
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: to be the dominant or Rashid Marshall fact to be
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: the dominant quarterback on our offense. We'll feature other things,
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: but the fact that you're willing and that they know
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: he still has the ability to keep it, we will
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: do that. And all the quarterbacks we have now all
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: have that bill. They're all at least as fast as
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Tyler Huff was last year and some other guys I've
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: had in the system.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: And yet in the bowl game then Huff goes and
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: throws for nearly four hundred yards, so he could obviously
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: do both of those things. So when you say you're
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: going to take what you have here at West Virginia
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: with those quarterbacks, and you're gonna start evaluating them soon,
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: so you may be more pass or run base based
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: on what you see individual skill wise, is that where
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: you sit today.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and a little bit how they play us too,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: But you have to be able to do both. But
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: the biggest thing for us is that if you can
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: run the ball, and this has always been the case though,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: but if you can run the ball at a tempo
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: and they have a hard time. It's really demoralized if
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: somebody throws. If you get four hundred yards where you
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: throw to run it, you know, your feelings get hurt
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: on defense, right, but they get hurt a little bit
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: more if you're running for four hundred and you're kind
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: of controlling the clock. I always believe that our tempo,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: we want to control the clock with our tempo unless
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: we until we get a two score lead in the
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: fourth court, and then we'll milk it. You know, we
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: would have led the country in the last three years
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: by far, and plays got in a number of plays
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: run the fasten the country if we'd not milked everything
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: we get in the fourth quarter. I'm like head coach time,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, we'll start taking the whole forty seconds
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: with about thirteen minutes ago in the game. You know
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: you got to be game management smart with that.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, is your number rich rushing the ball? Still, if
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: you can get to two hundred, it's going to be
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: a good day. Is that what number is in your head?
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Then we gotten five hundred before, but that was good.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: But uh, we really more look at first downs, you know,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: from my I look from the stad, if we're running
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: the ball for over two hundred, you got to you
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: got a chance to get control the ten. But for us,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: the biggest that we look for obviously controlling the Temple's
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: first downs. We get twenty five first downs, we normally
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: are winning the game.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Twenty five still your number.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: It's because we're controlling the pace, controlling the tempo and
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Rich When you first came here, you inherited, obviously coach
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Neelan's players in that quarterback room, and Brad Lewis was
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: not the perfect fit for what you wanted to do.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: What has changed from the first time you transitioned into
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: this time? I can think you might have answered you said,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: you feel you have right now? You got seven dudes, right,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: seven quarterbacks?
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Well might I had a couple more too. I'm not,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: you know, I said, why do you got to have
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: seven or ten? I had ten on one time. I said, well,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I got to find two or three that can play.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: That's what I thought. That's what you're doing.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Odds are better with ten than they are six or
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: five or four. But yeah, but they're all really good.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I like the competition and the fact that you run
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: them a little bit more. You know, you think maybe
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: going there's not so much as keeping them health, He's
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: just keeping them fresh, you know. And we rep the
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: way we rep our practices, and I think it's gotten
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: better over the years is that most teams will give
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: their first team maybe four or five reps and their
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: second team a couple reps, and the threes don't get
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: no reps. For us, our ones and twos get the
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: same amount of reps every practice, and we'll give a
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: threes about a half amount of reps. So we'll in
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: a typical five minute period, most teams will maybe get
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: six or seven plays run during practice, We're gonna get thirteen.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: So it's I tell that guys, even if they screw
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: up my yello at them, it ain't gonna be long
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: because we're we're moving on to the next play.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: So uh.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: And one of the biggest difference we're doing now is
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: over the years, every year we try to study, we do.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: We have a lot more variety of our quarterback run
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: game than we did when when Pat and Rashid was here.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: You know, it's just just a whole little different dynamic
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: of because it used to be and then I'm talking
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: football here. It used to be ahead. This is the
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: way defenses used to be. They fit the runs a
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: certain way on the front side where the play was going,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: and on the backside you just tell them pursue the
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: ball and watch the cutback. You know, I mean front side.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: This is how you fit the backside you're away from it,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: you know, pursue the ball, watch the cutback. Well, now
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: defenses are getting creative, so they'll fit the front side
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: one way and then fit the backside the other way
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: in case the quarterback keeps it. So they're doing more
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: things defensively to challenge the quarterback run. But if you
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: if you tempo it aren't having enough variety to know
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: what they're doing, then you can have an answer to it.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: So it still comes down to execution. And as much
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: as it is a team game, our quarterbacks all will
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: understand the game to another higher level than they've ever learned,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: not just how they fit on the front side, how
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: they fit on the backsip, but how the structure is
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: totally to stop the offense.
• 20:31
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• 20:33
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• 20:40
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• 20:43
  Speaker 1: start playing today. You've probably had a boat or two.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, all the travels, all these different places, did
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: you have a boat?
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Ye?
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I had one one here and then sold that and
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: then no water in Arizona. That was a long way
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: from water. There.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Plans to get a boat here?
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Uh well, first plans to get trying to find a house.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I know I heard here. I heard this a little
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: a little slow on the on the pickups.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: No, it's been it's great. The growth of more towns grave,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: but fifteen doctors is taken up, taking up the inventory.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: But yeah, we had a boat when we had our
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: lake house in Georgia's Sole. I missed that.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'll tell you what. Lou Wendell Marine
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Sales is the official pontoon boat Yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Here, and so that's the place where I need to
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: go if I.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Get Saint Albicus. I mean, you recruit down kanav Valley.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: It's the number one pontoon boat dealer in the state
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: of West Virginia. Lou Wendell recognized as the experts. Plus
• 21:32
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• 21:35
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• 21:39
  Speaker 1: So you say that you've changed as a coach. However, however,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: my reconnaissance and my information, my information people have been
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: down to jackson Jacksonville stayed over the last couple of years,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: and they say, like, dude, he ain't changed a bit.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he ain't.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: But that's a good thing.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know, I don't know what I
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: What did I talk about when I was changed? Maybe
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know what they help.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: You still are animated too much, so probably well, okay,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: but that's never changed. I get a sense from you
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: that I hear you saying this. I don't care that
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: there's an IL now, and I don't care that the
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: transfer portal allows players to leave without sending out a year.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I don't care about that. I'm still going to coach
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: them exactly like I used to because I don't care
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: if they get their feelings hurt. I know what I
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: need to do to.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Win, That's right, I think from that standpoint, I definitely are.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I'm still not your touchy feely guy. You know, I'm
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: still people thought, well, these guys, this guy's a players coach.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what the hell is that? I mean, players
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: play coaches, coach, administrators, administrate, you know, and that's the
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: way it's going to be. This is funny with talking
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: when all these guys they're talking about you know, when
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: I talked to a bunch of players and some of
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I don't want nobody going to portal, you know, especially
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: if you're a good player, right because sometimes it's like geez,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: why don't you give us a chance? But after talking
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: to them about twenty minutes, like what you're going to
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: do for me here and what you're going to do
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: for me are there? And then they're like then then
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I go through the whole spill by how we're going
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: to develop them and teach them this and that, and
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: then they're like, well, I want to explore my options
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: in a Portland Like damn, what you why do you
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: tell me that twenty minutes ago? What is waste my time?
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: But my point is that that uh, good players still
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: want to be coached and and what I would like
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: for that player to do sometime in that twenty minute
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: talk would tell me this is what I want to
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: do for the team. This is what I like for
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: the team to be. You know, where somehow the team
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: part got lost in the translations all about the guy.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: You could still have a team culture and have individual
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: success and manage both of it. What the players have
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: to do is there the team success always should come first.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: It should always come first. And when that happens, individual
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: success is going to follow with that. And and all
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: the good teams in any sport always has that kind
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: of element, you know, at anything level, and that's one
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: thing we're going to have. We're gonna have. The team
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: success has to come first.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: Coach. One of the challenges this was Virginia team had
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: last year in particular, was stretching the field. And you
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: brought in a guy, Cam Vaughan, who was big for
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: you last year. He caught eighty forty eight passes, average
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: seventeen yards to catch six nine, has three years left.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: Is he a guy that can stretch the field?
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Tam was our most explosive player that we had
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: there in three years outside and he was still learning.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: He was a high school quarterback, so we signed so
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: last year it was the first time he really paid much.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: He can do that and we're gonna have some other help, dude.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: And we've got to get faster generally as a team,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: not just on the outside. We've got to get faster
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: on defense. You know, I've watched a couple of games
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: and there were times we're close to being in position,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: but we're not quite fast enough or physical physical enough
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: to get there. And so we're we're trying to correct
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: that as well. And you used to be again, I
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: think sometimes you know, everybody gets too excited with the portal,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: think it's immediate fixed. But there are some that are
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: immediate fixes too. So you know, it's all about if
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: you're going to get guys in a portal and you're
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: going to start paying guys a certain thing, you got
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: to make sure you get the right guys and make
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: sure you pay the right guys. And you what you're
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: seeing in college football now, teams that are paying the
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: wrong guys or getting the wrong guys are getting crushed.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: So it's all about getting the right guys. And those
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: guys have even though they may have just one year.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: That's the hardest part. Those guys that just have one
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: year or whatever or quick fixes, so to speak, they
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: still got to fit into your culture. They still going
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: to get coached, and we tell them that when I
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: recruit him night, it ain't gonna be like you know,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: we're gonna take care of you. We're gonna do everything
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: we can for you have a great experience, but you're
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: playing for West Virginia and you still got to fit
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: in our culture.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Let's talk defense for a second. Zach Alley comes in
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: from Oklahoma most recently. He had experience with you previously.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: What do you want to see from the defense, What
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: will the defense look like? What are you looking for
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: player wise to fit into this defense.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Zach does a lot, and I sometimes worry because
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: he's does so much. He's a really really smart guy
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: and you'll see every bliss coming in some that you've
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: never seen before. But he's really really well prepared as
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: kids play really hard, and part of his duties, and
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: really all of our duties, is to teach our guys football,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: you know, more situational and sometimes when I watch even
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: in the NFL and in college, you know, the lack
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: of awareness of situational football, like understand the down and distance,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: what may happen, formationally, what's going to go on, and
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: what Zach's always been able to do when I was
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: with them, is you know, they do such a great
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: job of the situation, the formation, the personnel, and what's
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: going to come next. And you may not ever guess
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent of the time, but he will have
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: them in a position a lot of times. But we
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: will be very aggressive. I hate you know, everybody says, well,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: you know the slow death. Guys, there's nothing worse than that,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean just the three and outs. I
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: love three and outs, so not only because it forces
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: them to get off the field, but put forces their
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: defense to get back on there and play again really quickly.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: So for us, and you know, the magic number I
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: guess on defense will be at least six to three
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: and outs. You get that, and that's six times that
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: their defense has to come on the field really quickly.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: And Zack did a great job of building that into
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: with what we were doing on offense.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about Jack mcnell. I mean,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: you remember, right in nineteen eighty four, he was on
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: the field when you were on the field. Yeah, you know,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: crazy Rich, that's forty that's forty years Rich, that's forty.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Years, forty years ago. And I remember that game because
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I was a backup and then the starter got hurt.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: So I played the whole second half. And then I
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: reminded Jack that, you know, at halftime we were you know,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: we were down, you know, like twenty and nothing. But
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't play in the first half. The second half
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: we came out and shut him out. I do remember that,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: And I said, I remember having a free safety blitz
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: a little bit, and they had this slow center that
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: could not move and block anybody, had big thick shoulder
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: pads in a big thick neck roll. And is that
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: you Jack? Yeah. His claim to fame was the Hail Mary.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: But I said, you didn't even block anybody there either.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: He just danced around up. I said, oh, well he
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: was and five against West Virginia, by the way, on five?
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Why him?
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Well, Jack? And the biggest things I worked with him
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: at at Ole Miss.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So what did you like when you saw him there?
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: You know his uh, you know, he's been you know,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: he's obviously he's been around his whole life with his
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: dad being a co coach, and you know he's been
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: very successful line coach and his NFL experience. But I
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: liked him more than anything because his willingness to learn,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: because when I went to Ole Miss he been in our
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: system and he learned it real quick and had a
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: great way with the players, you know, just a great demeanor.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: He could be demanding, yet they love playing for him.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: And so I was very fortunate that he was available.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: And he's just a great guy. He's a great and
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I was able to bring Derek Dressler, who's was my
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: assistant online coach the last couple of years, with him,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: who knows our system. So Jack knows it. You know,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: he had been in four or five years, but he
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: knows it. And Derek, with those two guys were set
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: go ahead.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: Is your coach you talk about you got six or
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: seven quarterbacks? You might get a couple more. Is your
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: goal to come out of spring ball with a number one?
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Good question. I want to come out My goal to
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: have come out of spring with two, maybe three, three
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: would be ultimate that I know I could win with.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: You know, it's not even so much like who's one,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: who's two? S three? I'm a little bit different. People say, well,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: if you've got two, you got none? No, No, if
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: you've got two you can win with, you're in pretty
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: good shape. If you've got three that you feel comfort
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: you win with, you're gonna be good to go. And
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: that's what we had last year at Jack Stay. We
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: were we struggled at the beginning, but I wasn't worried
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: because I thought we had a couple of quarterbacks that
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: we were gonna be good enough to win with over
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: the long stretch of the season. I think we have
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: it right now with the quarterbacks we have on the
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: roster just a little bit. I've seen, you know in
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks. We have enough talent there
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: to find three that we can win with.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Last time in Mike Barrowis was your strength coach, and
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: that is a unit, as you well know, that has
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: more access and more dealings with the players than the
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: coaches do. It's just the nature of the business. So
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Mike Joseph remains, you bring a couple of guys with you.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Walk me through what your message has been to those folks,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: because that is your that's your secret sauce is what
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: goes on there and that whole heart edge. Walk us
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: through what's going on.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Bael and Herring, Mike, who I think is
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: so were I respected, not only about the players, but
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: everybody that's worked with him, and I've known him for
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: years two and and he's really really good. And then
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: bringing Parker Whiteman, who's been with me and knows and
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: do with things that we're doing, you know, So now
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's not just about strength, it's also about
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: speed and conditioning and all that kind of stuff. And
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: we've got a really good strength staff. They're they're with
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: the players all the time. And then the summer. It
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: used to be really nervous time for coaches because we
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: used to not be able to do anything. Remember, we
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: couldn't even ask the strength coach how it was going,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: so it was completely reliable relying on the strength coach
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: to get him. Now we're allowed to work with him
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: the summer, so not a month of July. I'll give
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: them a couple of weeks off away from the coaches,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: and the coaches away from them. We need a break
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: from each other. But the month of June, we're working
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: with our players quite a bit during the summer, and
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: so that helps to get the strength coaches on the
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: on the same page of what we are and and
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: and I again, you know, with with the way Mike
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: has runned. He even sounds like Mike Borrows a lot
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: if you hear his voice, you know, And the longer
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: the you know, the weeks ago, the harder his voice
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: is going to be. But he does a great job.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: And I said, Parker does a great job. And we've got,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: you know, tremendous facility. I didn't you know. The weight
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: room is pretty similar to add a few things. But
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: the recovery room we have all the red light there,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: I mean the trial chamber, and you're going in that chamber.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: I'm going and they say this one for anti aging.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: So hell, I wonder if I go in there ten
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: times a day, But I, well, I look ten years younger.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: It will because then I'll come back. It's nice to
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: come back. And then, you know, but everybody that come
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: come back with looks older other than you guys. And
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: then and then then a couple of already people have
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: looked at me like, well you look a lot older.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for that. I am older.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Happens, Yeah, natural time goes by there. Scheduling, it was bad.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Playing two Power Fours non conference out of three games
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: was the wrong thing to do. Fortunately, down the road,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: that's going to adjust you would agree with that.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got an ad that gets it. You know,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Rent understands and and uh, you know, your goal every
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: year is to win the league. Now the girl is
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: going to win the league and get in the playoff
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: and win a national championship. So, you know, I think
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure what the schedule is in the
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: in the next in four or five years, but I
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: think it looks like we've got a plan to play
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: a power for to play a group of five to
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: baby player one double way, and then you know the
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: way the nine games in the Big twelve. Yeah, the
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: se season not playing nine games for a reason, right,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: they don't want that extra loss. So, uh, the Big
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: twelve is doing it. That's fine. But uh rn has
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: a good plan and we're going to be you know,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: pretty well scheduled out there for the next seven eight years. Yeah, what.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: Have you had any chance to do things anything other
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: than football? Have you looked around town to see what's changed,
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: or looked up old friends or anything, or has just
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: been all football?
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: No, it's been I let uh miss Reeds try to
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: find a house. I've been staying at the waterfront. Thank
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: for my buddy Phil Weezer and that's been very convenient.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: But I still haven't, like I said, I haven't get
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: got in the therapy room yet. So you know, I
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: got to try the venue.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Go down to the SA perception thing they say, you
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: go in there and it just like completely totally relaxed.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, we had those that the first week
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: and a half I was here was crazy because we
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: had we signed twenty eight guys in the portal. We
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: had forty visits like speed dating, right, we were speed
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: dating every kid, you know, and it was it was
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: it was a wild time. But uh, it'll settle down
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: here a little bit after next week, I think, and uh,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: all the new staff gets settled in as well.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: You were in Florida yesterday recruiting. So when you go
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: out now on the road, what is your pitch to
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: that kid that might not know specifically West Virginia. You
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: were away from home. What are you selling them?
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Well, thankfully we've got to we do have a national
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: brand name for the most part over the years in
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: all sports, and so that the biggest thing we I've
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: always felt that about our place is if we can
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: get them to visit, you know, because people you know,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: everybody negative recruits and they'll say there's nothing in West Virginia.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of things in West Virginia is it's
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: one of the most beautiful states in the country. If
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: we get you to visit, we're gonna be able to
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: get you because the facilities there, the people are tremendous
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: and it's not like that everywhere. You know, I've been
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: blessed in places I've been most of them. You know,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: the people love football, and they're really friendly, and it's
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: a great environment. And this is as as good as
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: better than most most any place in the country. With that, well,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: football you want to be I don't want foot Football
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: is the end all to be all. It's not gonna
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: be more important than your family, your religion, or your health,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: but it kind of needs to be next right, and
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: we want guys to see that. When they come here,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: they sense that, you know, they sense the importance of football.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: They sends the importance of w as far as the
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: role within the state, and that helps us recruit.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: You got the flying WV on Now, did you have
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: any piece of WVU swag remaining good your class anywhere
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: in the house, even in the garage, like as a shammy.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Did you have anything with the flying WV remaining?
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: I did have some pictures, ould pictures and in ret
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: you know, was in our Arizona house and he said
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: he found eleven hundred club jacket. He already took it
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: I wanted. And then I had a T shirt that
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: said spotted the ball. I forgot about spotted.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: You, forget about spotting spot brand on you.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I like their hair is on fire.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: And hold the rope. Yeah, we're holding the rope and
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I actually, I'm told to stay. I want
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: to get the biggest rope in America. I want a
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: hundred yard rope and we're gonna hold that damn thing.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like one of those American flags about Perkins Restaurant.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Like just now, in his defense, the gear has come
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: about four million miles from where it was back when
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: you left. Gears much better now.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Oh there's all kinds of difference. But you know, I'm
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: not into the skinny jeans. I don't know if you
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: get you might be wearing not wearing skinny jeans. And
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: everybody wears hoodies now, I don't remember who hoodies hoodies.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: You're not out on hoodies, are you, I.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Don't wear them, but the kids love them. You know
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: what they else say. They like the sleeveless hoodies. That's
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: kind of a thing now, so big. You know, we
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: got great Danny Neeland. You know the equipment calf forever
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: and Danny's been but he's always been a little tight.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: Dan.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: I need a pair of socks, I asked Danny. Everything
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: was like black socks and blue socks. Said, what the
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: hell happened to the white sox? We don't wear white
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: sox anymore? Right, But Danny's right on. He got me
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: white sox already, so we're a good shape.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Now, hold on, you're out on black and blue socks.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: I just don't. It didn't look like it like for
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: people my age. You know, do you wear black socks
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: your my age?
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: He's an old jockey, her up with white sox.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Have you told the team that if they were anything
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: in the building that doesn't have that's any other school,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: that they will be absolutely eviscerated.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: You know, I'd have it, but I probably need to
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: remind him that. I would hope they get enough gear
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: they wouldn't have to do that.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: You know what's coming, dude, some guy's gonna walk in
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: that building one of these days wearing No one's doing
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: that happen.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: They're gonna leave a piece of trash on the floor
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: in front of the locker, and that's not gonna be
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: a good day for him. Where the you know, they're
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: gonna uh dance on TikTok. They did that already dance No, no,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: not that it's the worst to be all, but I
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: mean it's like, I mean, are you are you kidding me?
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: You were dancing on TikTok. And then then I did
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: have to do with the uniform check because you know,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: sometimes the guys wear these long tights whatever huh, and
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: sometimes you have any problem you got to wear one
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: on one leg and one guy had you know, had
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: a long black tight on one leg but nothing on
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: the other leg. And I'm like, well, you're trying to
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: be Angel Reese or something. I'm like, what's the fashion statement?
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I don't get it, you know what I mean?
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Two legs? Yeah, you'll go for two legs or two legs.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: And it's only year that we hand out, so we're
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: not handing out you know, one long leg and one
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: short leg deal unless you have an injury or something
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: like that. So yeah, we're slowly educating our guys on that.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: What's the plan for spring ball when you're on the
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: field when, uh how Because.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: It'll be the shortest spring I didn't even know if
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I have enough for have a spring game, but it'll
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: be the shorter spring game in history. It might be
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: fifteen minutes. So a lot of promos before during, and
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: then then I'm gonna get in the crowd like I
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: did another place, getting the crowd with a microphone and
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: let somebody else call the play. And then once they
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: call the play, I'm gonna be That's the worst play
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: call I've ever seen in my life. You're awful. You
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: know two men I've heard Channel say that she bought it.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: He said. Every man in America thinks they can do
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: two things. Coach football and worker grill. I can't work
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: with grill. And the other thing's up for a question too.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: You can call plays, yeah, you can co plays. Your
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: ultimate goal right now for this, we're in the end
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: of January. Let's just call us February. You got basically
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: three you got two months. You got seven weeks really
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: before you go start to go out onto the field.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Right about seven eight weeks what has to happen within
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: your this this team right now.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Right now. It's it's a little obviously building strength and
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: conditioning right now as well, but also building culture. I
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: think that's the thing you have to do the most
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: in your first spring is build the type of culture
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: and attitude the atmosphere I guess you should say in
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: our in our program going forward. And so that's happening
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: like now, and it's gonna really start happening more. Today
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: was the first tour duty. But after the Sunday day,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: come next Wednesday that all the coaches are around because
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: we only have two more weeks and then we start
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: spring ball end of February, and we're starting at early
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: and be done by the first of April. So Spring
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: pro whohahaa April fifth.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Wait a second, your spring games April five.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we moved it up a week. Didn't tell you.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: I didn't know.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: So you're gonna go. You're gonna go early. Eerly, we're
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: gonna go.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I like to go, like have a day off in
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: between each one, so you have meetings and lyft in
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: between your practices. So we'll have go like Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, Tuesday, Thursday,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Saturday all the way up until there's a week of
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: spring breaking there, and so.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: You do realize you're not in Alabama anymore now the
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: weatherwise and global warming and things like.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: That, and I'm getting old. If it's like cold, I'm
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: not gonna be like mister tough ding outside, how I'm
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: going in the indoor. So you're good, No, you're good
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: with that then, Yeah, and it's like the same thing
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: like six I used to be six am workouts, like
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: be mister hard ass. You know, I'm gonna work them
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: out six am. Like oh, you know, I found out
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: that just makes you tire, you know, I mean, sleep
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: is really really important. So our schedule right now is
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: built where our players have classes in the afternoon, So
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: we have eight am workouts at nine am workers. But
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: starting in the summer and next fall, it'll be we
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: don't play games at seven am, you know what I mean.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: So we'll we'll we'll meet in the morning, well, the
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: coaches will meet in the morning. We'll practice in the afternoon.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: So you will go to afternoon practice.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: We'll go back to the afternoon practice. Okay, but uh
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: but yeah, we're we're you know, we're gonna we're gonna
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: find out what we got, teach and evaluate and and
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: all that this spring and then by the really one
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: reason I'm finished in early is April fifth, will give
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: us another week before the portal opens. Uh and hopefully
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: we don't lose too many, but we'll probably need to
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: gain some. And then uh, you know, had that ten
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: day portal pier to try to uh fix the roster,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: so to speak, and then go from there.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: You're good money wise and il wise, you feel good
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: with what you got.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've we've been. We've got some help from a
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: lot of good friends to help us get through to
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: uh hopefully uh, well, I don't know but for sure,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: but that the red Sheriff thing is going to take over,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: you know, at the end of summer for school, and
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: who knows what the roster's gonna be. We think it's
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: gonna be one O five roster limit, but it may
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: not be. And everything's kind of up in the air
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: right now. So we're kind of the go take the
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: goal poster, keep moving, you know, we gotta keep moving
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: with it.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: You know, whatever that puzzle you've been putting together, that
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: that seems like a heck of an ask there and
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: we're going to put it all together without definitive ideas
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: on what's next.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the hardest part is like people realize it's
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: you know, you we are more NFL is more pro style.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: But the NFL, if you will follow them, they have
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: more rules than any organization in in the country, and
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: that's why they're so successful. I mean, every day there's
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: a rule for you to follow and if you tamper,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: if you do something, you're gonna cost you millions of
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: dollars in draft picks and everything like that. Right now,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: the nc has no rules and they have no rules,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: no rules of this podcast, and no teeth in the
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: rules that they have. I mean, it's kind of it's
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: it's ridiculous. So hopefully maybe now that they'll get some
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: congressional help and I thy guess what's gonna happen. It's
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: kind of hap to because as long as it goes
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: state by state, you know, if the state loves football
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: or the state loves athletics, they'll they'll fix the rule
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: to that. So it's kind of crazy.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Hey, one last thing before it cuts you loose soon,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: and I do appreciate your time. Walk us through your
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: organization within your general manager and your recruiting staff, because
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: now that's a whole that's pro I mean, you're going
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: to use a pro model there. So you bring the
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: dude in from Oklahoma. I hear really good things about him.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: What are you powering him to do?
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: What are you doing?
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: He's kind of helping with roster management, obviously helping evaluate
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: our recruiting staff and how we're recruiting. That's a big
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: part of it. Is the biggest important part of recruiting
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: is not just finding players, but really evaluated. And that's
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: part of coaches too, the same way as the head coach.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: My number one job is evaluating players. You know, the
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: players that we have and the players that we want
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: to get. And that's probably always going to be the
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: top job for the head coach because he's the final
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: guy on saying that. But I hired Chuck Lilly. He's
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: the general manager. He's got a good personality, he knows
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: how to manage that recruiting staff. But he also knows
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: the deal with agents. I don't want to deal with agents.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I've dealt with him. I dealt with him that whole.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: We can have a speed dat and then it was
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: enough to drive me crazy and you got to deal
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: with it. I don't, but I kind of like, we're
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: more like, this is the deal, and this is the way.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: It's one fair price, you know. And it's like my
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: buddy Paul astorg And has astrog Motors. He's got a model.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: It's one low price Asstrog motor. That's they don't negotiate.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: It's one low price. Well, ours is one fair price,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: and that's the way we're going to do it. And
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: I don't want players that are making a bunch of
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: money standing on me on the sidelines and the guys
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: on the field not. So it has to be an
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: earned success type of deal. And so Chuck is helping
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: us manage that. And hopefully with the rev share thing
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: comes in June, we will have a salary cap. It's
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: kind of a deal that we'll adhere to and then
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: follow that every year.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Would you are you in favor? Then, Rich, Let's say
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: you get a kid, Bobby Smith whatever, and he comes
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: in and he's got his number, and then he turns
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: out to be like, whoa will you you an advocate
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: of cranking? Okay, Bobby, come on, and you're doing better
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: than we thought. Now we're going to take you to
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: hear that's right.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: You got to have enough left over to be able
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: to reward success. You know, before it's called paper play.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: You couldn't do that right and pay for play deal.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: But now with the rev share and you're going to
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: have a certain cap and you can manage it within
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: that cap whatever you want to do, so you know,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: it may not be as much as maybe they would
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: like we'll go. But I had this and I'm not
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: going to tell you who. There's there's a guy that's
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: that uh is committed to another school and he's got
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: an agent, handler whatever, and he's wanting to know if
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: we're going to recruit him. And he sends me this
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: long agent not the coach, not the kid, send this
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: long text message about you know, I want you to
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: think creative like cash or crypto or or or gold
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: bars or something like that, and what you're gonna do
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: for me as well? And I'm like, I didn't respond
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: because he didn't want me to respond. Think he wasn't
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: a phone call. But but I'm like, this is this
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: is funny.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that old he's got out there with gold bars,
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: he's got he's.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Got, he's got me confused with somebody else.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: I think. And another question on that do you have
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: in mind Rich and again you've turned this over to
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: your gym, but that a left tackle is worth talks
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: with this, and a quarterbacks for this and the d
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: backs forth this.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have we have, we have, we have our
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: our scripted cap and we're gonna we're a po So everybody,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: the coaches a GM, myself. You know, GM doesn't do
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: anything that I don't check off on.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: But we have it.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: And you could vary from a little bit, but we're
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: not very very much. That is the way it is now.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna pay the quarterback seventeen to eighteen percent
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: the salary kick like the NFL does. I mean, they'll
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: pay you know those guys forty to fifty million dollars
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: a year. And in the second team guy won't get much.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: But because we're gonna we're gonna need more than one quarterback,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: but we will still have a model where left tackle
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: one is going to get more than slot receiver number two.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: So to say, okay, what do you think about needs
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: at this point position group wise?
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Where do you think that we gotta get faster? We
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: got to get faster, faster all over the place. We
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: gotta get faster on the premier and wide out, getting
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: where somebody scared. We got one on one guy.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Defensively, we got to get a lot more physical and quicker.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: You know, it seems like we're a little step behind
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: here and there, but I think there's we have some
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: talent on both sides. You know. The old line is
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: a big concern because we lost a lot of good
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: seniors and lost them in the portal. But I like
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: some of the young players we got and what we
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: got coming in, you know, and it sounds like coach,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: But I'll tell you after about three take me about
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: four spring practices, I would come back on here and
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you exactly where we're good or bad or indifferent.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: Look forward to that mark that down to I knock
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: it down.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: And that's what I mean in all seriousness, that's what
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: your years of experience do you know what you need
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: to be successful?
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah? And again if yeah, if if you didn't, if
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: I didn't learn or grow and listen, you know, I
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: didn't learn how to evaluate over the years. You know,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: you don't stay you know, active very long in this profession.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I think, and I've been
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: very fortunate that I've I've had a lot of good
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: people around me, but I've also taken pride in the
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: ability to evaluate someone and see that, uh what kind
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: of role they should play.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, budd, you're gonna go back, You're gonna
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: go to.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: You're gonna go recruiting now, recruit right now.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Special thanks to uh Rich Rodriguez for being with us,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Mike Montora, Mike forguil over at Sports Communications for making
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: it happen. Rich is gonna leave. We're gonna put a
• 46:51
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• 46:54
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• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Everyone's assumed their station. Go ahead, Jake cut camera on.
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  Speaker 1: Look at that.
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  Speaker 4: Jakes around to very good. That was nice, It's fine,
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: very nice.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: There was a boatload of info.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: There was a lot of info in there, a lot
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: to unpack it. Just again, I think for Rich Brad
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: talked about it being surreal. It is just it's just
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: we're all like twenty years older, yet we're all still together.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: It's it's such a movie, man.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: That's why I just told That's why I just told him.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: On the way out, I said, just for old time's sake,
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go get him here, and today we're gonna
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: drive over to United Bank and say hello to everybody
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: like we used to be back in the old days.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: So it's it's but you know what again, Prisoner of
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: the moment, statement of the obvious. He seems really happy
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: to be back, you know, he seems content. I was
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: gonna say content. Yeah, you know, it doesn't he doesn't
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: seem to be weighed down by I've got to fill
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: this roster with all these guys and I've got all
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: these He just seems like, hey, here I am, and
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: I'm back under these these unbelievable circumstances and I got
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: another chance and I'll get the coach. And he just seems, yeah,
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: like he's where he should be.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: It's a great point about because again, I feel like
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: he's under selling the last couple of weeks and all
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: of the things that had to go in to staff roster,
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: nil contra all that.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: That was a ton of stuff.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: Guys, that was a lot going on, and yeah, he
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: seems non plus.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: By it all.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all right, guys.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Quarterback got to go, get speed to get quarterback, got five.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Okay, here we go.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: We're fine.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: And I think that some of that comes from where
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: he's been, like go all the way back, like and
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: he was trying to put a roster together at Salem
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: at Glenville, right, like, it doesn't get more difficult than
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, soud. So that's why at this point,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: like I can do this and then you all throwing.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: We can also pay kids, come on in.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it's just so many moving parts. That's what
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: I can't get over that. That's a lot of individual
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: players and coaches being built at the same time.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: Look, you're going to be as always, you're going to
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: be judged by wins and losses.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: We know that.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: But he sounds like a guy who is confident in
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: his ability to do the things need to be done.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just like, oh, Okay, I gotta do this,
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: go do this, go do.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: This, and should be listen, it was Jacksonville State versus here,
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: but given what they did there, right, that was a
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: complete reconstruction and recently two fifty new guys on that
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: roster last year that got himTo a conference championship in
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: a bowl. And again, different levels and the schedules are
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: going to look different, but process very similar.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: So hey, he just says, Okay, put a new jersey on,
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: putting new shirt on.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Let's go.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: And also when he says, and I never you know,
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: going back. That's the first time I've seen him in
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: person in twenty twenty years, wouldn't it. Yeah, But when
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: he says, I know, tell him, I can evaluate. I
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: mean that to me. To me, that's not braggadocio. That
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: is a guy who has evaluated talent and is confident
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: in his abilities to evaluate talent. Agree.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's always had that. But I met a
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: first time he was here. He would look at certain
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: guys and say, he come play dead in the Western.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: That was one of those. That's the ones that couldn't
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: make it. And he knows that he's got a guy here.
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  Speaker 4: That's the whole big plastical about plastic.
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  Speaker 3: To be honest, we've got big plastic on us now.
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  Speaker 4: It's a lot of plastic around us right now. Probably
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  Speaker 4: Are we doing? Uh? Are we doing the game? Are
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  Speaker 1: Brad's got seam release, Brad's go get you good for
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  Speaker 1: ten more? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: taste my chicken. Thanks for what you guys.
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  Speaker 3: You're out on that trip though, because you'll be in Guttenberg,
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  Speaker 4: That's right, is a Guttenberger Gutenberg gutting good to know
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• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Went to the game last all night. Sorry, my undefeated
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: in person street came to an end. Still plenty of
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: season left, albeit Cincinnata Sunday. Maybe I'll see you guys there.
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  Speaker 1: Rate my dessert Reces peanut butter pie from Murials. Oh
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  Speaker 1: it was so good. Signed by Elite one Jennings And don't.
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: Need to say it, but I was Jennings. I saw
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  Speaker 4: him last night, and I make one observation about the
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: game last night. One obvious I watched the game. Listen
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: to you guys, is that and there's a lot to
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: be unpacked. I know we don't have time, but usually, Brad,
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: when you think about one person making a difference in
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: the game, it's about a guy who goes off and
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: scores twenty or twenty four points or something like that.
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: In the second half. It was Sincere Harris who made
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: a difference defensively in that game. I mean West Virginia
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: defensively turned it up in second half. Obviously, yes, but
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: sincere Harris ignited the defense, ignited the crowd, made a
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: difference in the game.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: He did, He was elite defensively. Had us on from
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: Houston totally flipped out and flustered. There the other part
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: of that, and we'll talk about this maybe on another podcast.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: The switch that Darren made at halftime offensively, philosophy wise
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: and scheme wise, absolutely elite. I know it didn't get
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: you all the way to the pay window there with
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: a win. The man you were coming and that switch
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: had Houston confused with no answers, and it was a
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: brilliant schematic switch. At some point we'll go into a
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: little bit deeper, but you were right there. That was
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: there for the taking had you not started the way
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: you started. Unfortunately, that's been a little mini trend here.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: You just got so far behind against what is a
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: very good team that the energy expended to get back
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: in led you a little bit short. But man, that's
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: second half. That's how you want to be playing. Hopefully
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: this group walks with that second half performance and can
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: push that part of it forward.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: By the way, I know that West Virginia did a
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: good job with them on the spoke on the second hand,
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: but LJ Criers should get a West Virginia driver's license.
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, how many times that is I looked at
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: a quick search, Tony I think that's the sixth time
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: the Criers played against West Virginia with Baylor and with
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• 57:04
  Speaker 4: he scored one hundred and nineteen points and averaged twenty points.
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  Speaker 4: And you got to see him again next month.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: Twenty five threes and six games against West Virginia. But listen,
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: he got loose there for those two early threes. Did
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: not have won the rest of the game. It was
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: just that first you know, And it was really if
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: you go back, I watched the first half again this morning.
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  Speaker 3: It was really like the first five or six minutes
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• 57:31
  Speaker 3: middle part of the first half. Defensively, you were right there.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: It was really a small window when they took advantage
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  Speaker 4: of tune out for a while because the kid will.
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  Speaker 1: A lot to do. Text her. Can we please get
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  Speaker 4: Elite?
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  Speaker 1: She she went five bowls last night for her final kick.
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  Speaker 4: Incredible.
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  Speaker 1: Got pissed off, She got pissed. I was looking right
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  Speaker 4: She did it.
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  Speaker 3: I've told this story real quick. I know we're unlimited
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  Speaker 3: One of her appearances when I was still working there,
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  Speaker 1: If she wasn't on the cycle, we had to.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't care about schedule. Didn't care about match, just
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  Speaker 1: She's a lead Kyle from Morgantown rights. I love when
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  Speaker 1: there there was perfectly lip synced. You were complaining about
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  Speaker 4: What he said? You guys? Were you guys?
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  Speaker 1: what do you?
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  Speaker 3: In fact, I got a call from somebody today that said,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: well Ton, he was really losing his mind on the officials.
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  Speaker 3: Don't try and pin that just on me. All own it,
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  Speaker 3: but don't you try and run from that?
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  Speaker 1: Which call? In all seriousness? Which one did I lose
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  Speaker 1: my mind?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: Well? The court, the back court, over, over and back.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: I like pulled back on that one because the official
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: acknowledged that he blew up SOS someon as he did that.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: I went, okay, fine, as long as you eat.
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  Speaker 3: Half lost though, bred So don't get on just me.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: I'll own it, but don't you run from it.
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  Speaker 4: Brad was the guy that said tackle the guy into
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: the bench.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, might have got man. He was thinking about Rich
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  Speaker 1: coming on the show tonight. Wanted to There was no
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: foul on that play. That's exactly what I wanted to say,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Darren want to say.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you this.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: You're getting beat.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: You line up and you put somebody into the bench.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: Is exactly what you do. And things got better, didn't they?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: Did things get better?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: They did.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, you're gonna be I don't care if you get
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: five thouls on one player or not. You put somebody
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: into the bench and here we go.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: But here's what you did. You fell into pattern and
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: said you did this. He said, you said, here's what
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: you gotta do. Here's what you need to do. Line up,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: knock them right into the bench.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised that didn't go. That could have gone. Joan
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Robbins is a big dude. I'm surprised he didn't.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: Well, there were multiple skirmishes at that point. Toby was
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: getting tackled in the middle of the lane. Yes, if
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: he was on the other side, just line up.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Texter says in game two, know what you need to
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: do against.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: A team that's physical and wants to push you around.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: You know what you need to do to that.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: I know, you push them right back, sit over there
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: and way down and you put them right in the
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: third row.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to see that onto Thato. We'll defend hard
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: line up.
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  Speaker 4: You want to go, we'll go.
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  Speaker 1: In game text Houston forty seven, West Virginia forty two.
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  Speaker 1: It's maddening to watch Houston get their home whistle on
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: our floor. Devreeze makes such great adjustments.
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  Speaker 4: Just thankful you know you did late got to the line.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: That was the problem too. Where I already mentioned is
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: at that point where you had the fun end of
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: the one and one, you missed the front with three
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: fun ends of one on one, but you missed the
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: fund in the one on one, and then they came
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: down and got the conventional three.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: That was a big turn in that game. What's the
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: biggest case, Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: I think, I think it's that physicality that you saw
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: in the second half. Can West Virginia because it has
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: not had that the start of the last three games,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: and I think it's cost.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: You in each of those.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: So can you come out and play with that physicalness
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: on defense? And I get what Darren's saying West Virginia's
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: offense comes as a result of getting after you and
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: being physical defensively. You saw that points off turnovers in
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: the second half. You run JP out, you get him
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: going from three. It all hinges upon defense, So start
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: there be physical. Learn from this game. On the offensive glass,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: you've got to go find a body because Cincinnata is
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: going to come at you on the offensive glass. They'll
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: probably miss a bunch of shots. Not the best shooting team,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: but they'll get after you on the defensive end in
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: offensive glass. If they want to ugly it up. Ugly
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: the thing up. You want to get in the mud,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: Get in the mud and go wrestle.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: This could be.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: This could be fifty eight fifty three because both teams
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: are averaging inside of seventy in league play.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: So match it.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: They're gonna come out. This is another desperate team. This
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: is not where this team thought it would be. As
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: we get right a round into February, they're at home.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: They're probably gonna get a rabbit bunch here that comes
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: out after you.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: You have got to match that.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: If you're West Virginia right from the very start.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: This is gonna be a fight. Yeah, this is gonna
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: be like a like a boxing match when both fighters
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: when the bell rings the first round, they go straight
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: to the middle of the of the of the ring
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: and just start throwing haymakers. I think that's what happens
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Sunday to start this game, because both teams, as you said,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: they're bummed out. They thought they were going to Utah
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: this week and getting to w They are bummed and
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: they're miserable, and they're two and seven in the league.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: West Virginia three losses in a row. They know why
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: they've got three losses in a row. It's because their defense.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: This thing's gonna go. There better be some good arbiters
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: on the floor Sunday because it's going to be really,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: really physical.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: I do think you should get a desperate West Virginia
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: team too. Yeah, I mean right now, you got to go.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: You got to get some wins. That ncay birth is
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: still out there. You've got to go after it and
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: go get it. I'm interested to watch here. The last
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: thing on this West Virginia found something there in the
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: second half. Offensively led to one point two points per
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: possession in the second half, which, if you average that
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: for a season, you lead the country in points per possession.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: That was against the number one defense in the country
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: efficiency wise in Houston, and you carve them up in
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: the second half without making a ton of threes. West
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: Virginia's offense now got a lot more diverse. It shows
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: the ability to make threes earlier in the Big twelve season,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: and it's now shown the ability to attack you in
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: a different way that you hadn't seen. So you go
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: back to second half k State, second half Houston, it's
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: a more diverse offense. Can can they build on that
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: and give Cincinnati something else to think about?
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: One of the most entertaining that second half was entertaining.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: One of the most entertaining parts even though you watch
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: the game was how many times and I'm listening to you,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: But in the TV cutaway they showed Samson, coach and
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: just yelling at guys like what are you doing? What
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: are you doing? He was frustrated, They were frustrated.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: In the second hand, they were clearly on the ropes.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: They were absolutely on the ropes.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: You just couldn't get over that hump you mentioned at
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: that point when you had when you were down six
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: with however much Tiger was left in that and you
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: had three opportunities there for incluting that JP three Tony.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: That you called good.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: Right, you said good, I mean that thing was in.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: That's his in and out as I've seen a ball
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: that was in. Then you had a turnover on the
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: next possession. Then you missed a Toby o'connie, just little jumper.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: Toby had a great game, but he was right there.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: On another one, you had three shots to cut that
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: under six and couldn't get there. That was probably the
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