Latest / Brian Thomas / Ohio Treasurer Robert Sprague - Running for Sec of State
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- 0:02Speaker 1: It's 8.05, coming over at 8.06 here at 55KRC, the
- 0:05Speaker 1: talk station. Brian Thomas, wishing everyone a very happy Wednesday.
- 0:08Speaker 1: And welcoming back to the 55KRC Morning Show. He's running
- 0:10Speaker 1: for Secretary of State. He's got a name that you
- 0:12Speaker 1: know very well. Robert Sprague, welcome back to the 55KRC
- 0:16Speaker 1: Morning Show. It's good to have you back on. And,
- 0:18Speaker 1: of course, 13 days to Election Day. It's fast approaching.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, Brian. Appreciate being on.
- 0:26Speaker 1: Let us talk about what you plan on doing here. When,
- 0:29Speaker 1: I would argue, when you get elected Secretary of State.
- 0:32Speaker 1: Work to be done. I know it's in good hands now,
- 0:35Speaker 1: and I know you've had high praise for the current
- 0:38Speaker 1: occupant of the office, but things that you want to
- 0:40Speaker 1: accomplish going forward, work to be done. For example, insofar
- 0:47Speaker 1: as elections are concerned, let me just pivot over this
- 0:49Speaker 1: one right away. The Social Security announced the other day
- 0:52Speaker 1: they corrected tens of millions of records, including now the
- 0:56Speaker 1: citizenship information. And that information apparently is available to states
- 1:00Speaker 1: to use. States can find a person's citizenship status by
- 1:03Speaker 1: entering that person's name, date of birth, and full or
- 1:05Speaker 1: partial social security number into this social security administration's database,
- 1:09Speaker 1: thus determining whether that person is eligible to vote in
- 1:12Speaker 1: federal elections. Is that something that you plan on doing
- 1:16Speaker 1: going forward?
- 1:18Speaker 2: Absolutely. Within the first 100 days, we want to make
- 1:20Speaker 2: sure that we move to a front-end citizenship check. Now,
- 1:23Speaker 2: we have some of those checks in place right now,
- 1:25Speaker 2: but I can tell you that working with the federal
- 1:28Speaker 2: government is so critical because they're the people that know
- 1:30Speaker 2: who the citizens are. And in the Ohio Constitution in 2022,
- 1:35Speaker 2: we voted, 77 percent, voted to add to the constitutional
- 1:41Speaker 2: language that only American citizens can vote in our Ohio elections.
- 1:45Speaker 2: I think it's pretty fundamental. Now, I can tell you
- 1:47Speaker 2: my Democrat opponent, Alison Russo, opposed that amendment on the
- 1:52Speaker 2: floor of the House. I guess she wants noncitizens to
- 1:54Speaker 2: be able to vote in our elections. You know, the
- 1:57Speaker 2: first piece of election integrity was is that you have
- 2:00Speaker 2: to have only citizens voting in the elections. That's what
- 2:03Speaker 2: you're talking about with having access to that federal social
- 2:06Speaker 2: security data to see who is a citizen and who's
- 2:09Speaker 2: not a citizen. I would say right after that, we
- 2:12Speaker 2: want to make sure that we have photo ID in
- 2:13Speaker 2: our elections. So you got to know that people are
- 2:16Speaker 2: who they say they are when they vote. If you're
- 2:19Speaker 2: having to show a photo ID to buy a beer
- 2:20Speaker 2: in the state of Ohio, it only makes sense that
- 2:23Speaker 2: in our elections to keep them secure, You should have
- 2:26Speaker 2: to show a photo ID to vote so that we
- 2:28Speaker 2: know that you are who you say you are. And
- 2:30Speaker 2: my Democrat opponent has made a living out of voting
- 2:33Speaker 2: against photo ID for the people of the state of
- 2:36Speaker 2: Ohio and our election security. We have to keep our
- 2:39Speaker 2: elections secure.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Well, given how popular photo ID is and given the
- 2:43Speaker 1: fact that literally every man, woman, and maybe even children
- 2:46Speaker 1: in some cases have a photo ID for something they
- 2:48Speaker 1: have to have it for in their day-to-day lives, it's
- 2:50Speaker 1: not a big ask. and accusations that somehow it's racist
- 2:54Speaker 1: to require a photo ID because, I don't know, people
- 2:58Speaker 1: of color find it difficult to do so. I find
- 3:00Speaker 1: that insulting, and to be a racist accusation in the
- 3:03Speaker 1: first place. But the other left-wing arguments, or maybe Alison
- 3:07Speaker 1: Russo-type arguments, well, it's going to suppress the voter turnout,
- 3:10Speaker 1: or here's my favorite one, oh, this hardly ever happens,
- 3:14Speaker 1: non-citizens voting in federal elections, so there's really nothing to
- 3:17Speaker 1: deal with here. Well, that ignores the fact that Sometimes
- 3:20Speaker 1: they do, and if there's a problem that allows for
- 3:23Speaker 1: a violation of the law, shouldn't you stop that from
- 3:26Speaker 1: being able to happen as a part of your job
- 3:28Speaker 1: in the role of Secretary of State?
- 3:32Speaker 2: The last thing you want is a Secretary of State
- 3:34Speaker 2: that's going to, first of all, create a system where
- 3:36Speaker 2: people can cheat, and secondly, look the other way while
- 3:39Speaker 2: they do cheat, and that's what my Democrat opponent is
- 3:41Speaker 2: going to do. She's against every single security measure that
- 3:45Speaker 2: currently makes our elections good in the state of Ohio
- 3:48Speaker 2: and gives them integrity. We don't want to turn into
- 3:52Speaker 2: New Jersey. New Jersey is a good example of bad
- 3:56Speaker 2: processes where the Democrats control the elections process. And what's
- 4:00Speaker 2: happened there is they had 6,600 more than that, non-citizens
- 4:05Speaker 2: and illegal immigrants registered to vote in their state. Hundreds
- 4:09Speaker 2: and hundreds of them actually voted in the elections. And
- 4:12Speaker 2: now they won't tell the people of New Jersey which
- 4:15Speaker 2: elections they voted in because, you know, in the state
- 4:17Speaker 2: of Ohio, we've had over 70 elections that have been
- 4:22Speaker 2: determined by a single vote in the state of Ohio
- 4:24Speaker 2: just in the last couple of years. And, you know,
- 4:27Speaker 2: this happens all the time. You know, people try to
- 4:29Speaker 2: register to vote illegally. And current Secretary of State Frank LaRose,
- 4:34Speaker 2: who's doing a great job, along with our Board of Elections,
- 4:37Speaker 2: have to refer those people to local prosecutors. And the
- 4:42Speaker 2: fundamental piece is photo ID. We have to have photo ID.
- 4:46Speaker 2: It's the fundamental security measure. It's just the ante to
- 4:50Speaker 2: be able to get into the poker game. That's all
- 4:53Speaker 2: it is. It's basic. It's fundamental. We need to have
- 4:56Speaker 2: photo ID for in-person voting. We need to have photo
- 4:58Speaker 2: ID for the mail-in ballots. And we need to add
- 5:00Speaker 2: photo ID to the Ohio Constitution so that it's permanently
- 5:05Speaker 2: in there and these crazy socialists can't take it away
- 5:09Speaker 2: from the people of the state of Ohio. That's issue
- 5:12Speaker 2: three that your listeners are going to be voting on
- 5:14Speaker 2: on November 3rd, and I urge them to vote yes
- 5:16Speaker 2: on issue three, add that to the Ohio Constitution, and
- 5:19Speaker 2: preserve it forever so that we have a photo ID
- 5:23Speaker 2: and election integrity for the people of the state of Ohio.
- 5:26Speaker 1: Yeah, in the hope that, well, hopefully nobody ever occupies
- 5:29Speaker 1: the office. It does spring from that Amy Russo position,
- 5:33Speaker 1: but If it's in the Constitution, you don't have to
- 5:35Speaker 1: worry who the occupant of the Secretary of State's office is.
- 5:38Speaker 1: There will always be a photo ID requirement. Hey, I'll
- 5:42Speaker 1: tell you what, though.
- 5:42Speaker 2: That's right. But you also have to elect people that
- 5:45Speaker 2: are going to uphold the Constitution, uphold the rule of law,
- 5:47Speaker 2: and enforce it. I mean, that's what the executive does.
- 5:49Speaker 2: And that's why the Secretary of State's office is so
- 5:52Speaker 2: important to people. You know, it's the one office that
- 5:54Speaker 2: you want to have be run professionally by somebody that's
- 5:57Speaker 2: very competent.
- 5:58Speaker 1: Well, you seem very confident in your positions, Robert Sprague,
- 6:00Speaker 1: and I remind my listeners it's Sprague4Ohio. com. You can check
- 6:05Speaker 1: out what his background is. He's well-qualified for the job,
- 6:07Speaker 1: of course. But let me ask you this. You're very
- 6:11Speaker 1: strong in your positions. They sound logical and reasonable to me,
- 6:13Speaker 1: but I'm sure Ms. Russo, Alison Russo, also is firm
- 6:18Speaker 1: in her convictions and strong in her beliefs and can
- 6:20Speaker 1: support her arguments. So I presume she wants to debate
- 6:23Speaker 1: this in front of the voters.
- 6:26Speaker 2: Is that correct? The last thing she wants to do
- 6:30Speaker 2: is have a debate. Spectrum News has challenged us to
- 6:33Speaker 2: a debate. Our campaign immediately accepted. We said, yeah, absolutely.
- 6:37Speaker 2: If you're going to be the chief civics officer for
- 6:39Speaker 2: the state of Ohio, the least we could do is
- 6:42Speaker 2: defend our positions on a debate stage in front of
- 6:44Speaker 2: the public, have it be advertised and televised live so
- 6:48Speaker 2: that people can see the differences between the two candidates
- 6:51Speaker 2: and their ideas. Alison Russo rejected that. She said, no,
- 6:56Speaker 2: I'm not debating. We're not doing it. And after repeated calls,
- 7:01Speaker 2: repeated calls. And to this day, I will tell you what, Brian,
- 7:04Speaker 2: if you want to host a debate, I would just
- 7:07Speaker 2: say we accept. And I think it's critical. I think
- 7:09Speaker 2: it's fundamental for our democracy and as a nation. Honestly,
- 7:15Speaker 2: we need to compete more on ideas and vision for
- 7:18Speaker 2: our country and for our state. That's the way elections matter.
- 7:23Speaker 2: But it's impossible for the elections to... you know, reflect
- 7:27Speaker 2: the will of the people unless the people know what
- 7:29Speaker 2: the candidates stand for. So, yeah, if you want to
- 7:32Speaker 2: host a debate, I just accept on the air right now.
- 7:35Speaker 1: Well, and this comes at absolutely no risk to me,
- 7:38Speaker 1: not that I'm risk averse to hosting a debate, but
- 7:41Speaker 1: I know it's never going to happen, Robert Sprague. So, yeah,
- 7:45Speaker 1: I'll do it. And expect that I won't hand out
- 7:49Speaker 1: pre-written questions. You have to do it on the fly
- 7:51Speaker 1: like Ramaswamy does all the time, like you do. You
- 7:53Speaker 1: didn't know what I was going to ask you about
- 7:54Speaker 1: when you came on this morning, Robert Sprague.
- 7:58Speaker 2: We'll take questions from any of the callers that want
- 8:01Speaker 2: to come in, even. It's just critical that you be
- 8:04Speaker 2: able to defend your position as you understand what you
- 8:06Speaker 2: believe in, and you're able to enunciate it to the voters.
- 8:09Speaker 2: That's what these debates do. And frankly, the candidates that
- 8:11Speaker 2: don't want to debate are unable to do that.
- 8:14Speaker 1: Well, that's the only conclusion I can reach because politicians
- 8:17Speaker 1: thrive on being able to advance their position, talk in public.
- 8:20Speaker 1: It's one of those almost like any publicity is good publicity.
- 8:23Speaker 1: But if you think you have the winning strategy, don't
- 8:26Speaker 1: you want to argue with the opponent over why theirs
- 8:29Speaker 1: is wrong and yours is right? And if you can't
- 8:32Speaker 1: do that, then I think we all know the answer
- 8:34Speaker 1: to the question. I guess your policies aren't right.
- 8:39Speaker 2: Absolutely. You know, I can tell you that in politics,
- 8:43Speaker 2: there's a lot of different reasons to debate. But the
- 8:46Speaker 2: most fundamental reason is it's part of our democratic republic.
- 8:51Speaker 2: And people need that information in order to make a
- 8:54Speaker 2: good decision. And our election system doesn't function unless you're
- 8:58Speaker 2: able to have information as a voter and as a citizen.
- 9:02Speaker 2: And then also the elections don't function unless they have integrity.
- 9:06Speaker 2: So those two pieces are what makes our elections work.
- 9:09Speaker 2: It's what defends your rights and allows you to defend
- 9:13Speaker 2: your rights at the ballot box and maintain this fantastic
- 9:17Speaker 2: country that our ancestors and our forefathers have given us
- 9:22Speaker 2: and the rights that we enjoy under the United States Constitution.
- 9:26Speaker 2: But you can't do that without information and without the
- 9:29Speaker 2: integrity of the election system.
- 9:31Speaker 1: And being deprived of information, I think, is quite revealing
- 9:33Speaker 1: going back to the refusal to advance or to argue
- 9:37Speaker 1: against your opponent over these important issues. To me, that
- 9:41Speaker 1: just tells the tale. I mean, Amy Acton's doing the
- 9:43Speaker 1: same thing, hiding in the basement. I've called it cowardice.
- 9:46Speaker 1: Maybe that's too harsh considering she had a terrible childhood
- 9:49Speaker 1: and I don't know that it bolsters your qualification for governor.
- 9:52Speaker 1: I personally don't think it did. And I'm sorry she
- 9:54Speaker 1: went through some tragedies as a young person. But you know,
- 9:57Speaker 1: I wouldn't add that to my resume if I was
- 9:59Speaker 1: running for governor. I suffer child abuse. OK, what have
- 10:02Speaker 1: you done? OK, what are you planning on doing? I
- 10:05Speaker 1: will not debate. I refuse to debate while Ramaswamy will
- 10:08Speaker 1: run around and answer any question from any person around
- 10:10Speaker 1: because he can support his position. So we've got multiple
- 10:13Speaker 1: candidates doing this hide in the basement Joe Biden strategy.
- 10:16Speaker 1: And look what that brought us. Robert Sprague at spragueforohio.com.
- 10:20Speaker 1: Check out the website. You also are responsible as Secretary
- 10:23Speaker 1: of State for Business Services and a variety of other duties.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Is there any less, I will argue, perhaps less sexy,
- 10:30Speaker 1: but not for business owners, anything you want to do
- 10:32Speaker 1: to improve the speed service, reduce costs, modernization? What needs
- 10:37Speaker 1: to be done in that realm of the Secretary of
- 10:39Speaker 1: State's office?
- 10:40Speaker 2: Yeah, let me start out and just say, I was
- 10:43Speaker 2: a state representative that joined the General Assembly in 2010,
- 10:45Speaker 2: and At that time, we were 37th out of 50
- 10:49Speaker 2: states in the CNBC rankings for business friendliness. This year,
- 10:53Speaker 2: under Republican leadership, for the first time, we are number one.
- 10:56Speaker 2: Number one in the Ohio. Ohio is number one in
- 10:59Speaker 2: the United States of America. We're doing a great job
- 11:02Speaker 2: with business startups. And one of the things I want
- 11:05Speaker 2: to do as Secretary of State, because I was a
- 11:07Speaker 2: small business owner, and I remember starting my small business out,
- 11:12Speaker 2: and the number one thing that I needed and didn't
- 11:14Speaker 2: have was money. And so when you go to register
- 11:17Speaker 2: your new business online in the Secretary of State's office,
- 11:21Speaker 2: when I'm Secretary of State, you will have the option
- 11:23Speaker 2: to type in a little bit about your business, and
- 11:26Speaker 2: we are going to have a search engine that goes
- 11:28Speaker 2: out and looks at all the federal grants, all the
- 11:30Speaker 2: state grants, and all the local grants that you would
- 11:32Speaker 2: qualify for as a small business in the state of
- 11:34Speaker 2: Ohio to give you some fuel for that rocket so
- 11:37Speaker 2: that you can get off to a great start. I
- 11:39Speaker 2: think it would be a huge help. I think that
- 11:41Speaker 2: we would see businesses succeed more if they had just
- 11:44Speaker 2: a little bit of capital. as they're starting up here
- 11:47Speaker 2: in the state of Ohio. So I think that's a
- 11:49Speaker 2: big contribution to these very small businesses in our great state.
- 11:53Speaker 1: Well, I presume that's harnessing artificial intelligence for good rather
- 11:56Speaker 1: than evil. That sounds like a great concept, Robert.
- 11:59Speaker 2: Yeah, right. We could actually train this AI agent on
- 12:03Speaker 2: all these governmental programs, and all you have to do,
- 12:06Speaker 2: and it's completely optional, you don't have to do it,
- 12:08Speaker 2: but You've got to type in a little bit about yourself,
- 12:11Speaker 2: who you are, who your small business is, and it'll
- 12:13Speaker 2: go out and search all these programs, and who knows,
- 12:16Speaker 2: maybe it'll even apply for you.
- 12:17Speaker 1: Amen to that. And finally, before we part, coming again,
- 12:19Speaker 1: Sprague for Ohio, Robert Sprague's campaign website. Right there, in bold,
- 12:23Speaker 1: stopping fraud. What are we going to do about stopping fraud?
- 12:27Speaker 1: I know we're on a roll here in terms of
- 12:29Speaker 1: stopping fraud. I appreciate the work that the Trump administration
- 12:31Speaker 1: is doing that, and God almighty, do any of us
- 12:34Speaker 1: really fully appreciate the size and scope of the abuse
- 12:37Speaker 1: of the American taxpayer dollars, but we've got it here
- 12:40Speaker 1: in Ohio to a certain degree. What's your action plan,
- 12:42Speaker 1: Robert Sprague?
- 12:44Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, I think what we're referring to
- 12:47Speaker 2: there is obviously there's financial fraud, and we're very sensitive
- 12:51Speaker 2: to that. I'll just give you one instance of financial
- 12:53Speaker 2: fraud that we tackled in the state of Ohio. We
- 12:57Speaker 2: used to have people that would submit for your income
- 12:59Speaker 2: tax returns fraudulently, and then they would take that from you.
- 13:03Speaker 2: had the income tax return sent from the state of
- 13:05Speaker 2: Ohio to their house instead of yours. We fixed that
- 13:08Speaker 2: by asking people to submit, guess what, a copy of
- 13:11Speaker 2: their driver's license, a copy of their photo ID, and
- 13:15Speaker 2: the amount of fraud went to zero. The way that
- 13:17Speaker 2: you stop fraud in the election system is you create
- 13:20Speaker 2: a system that has integrity. We have that in the
- 13:23Speaker 2: state of Ohio. There are some things that we can
- 13:25Speaker 2: tighten up, but by and large, we need to protect
- 13:28Speaker 2: the system that we currently have, and that's what I'm
- 13:30Speaker 2: going to do as your next secretary of state.
- 13:32Speaker 1: Any idea about offering a slice of the action for
- 13:34Speaker 1: those who drop a dime on fraudsters in the state
- 13:37Speaker 1: of Ohio? Trump just unveiled that plan yesterday. Is that
- 13:40Speaker 1: something that could be done on a statewide basis? Not
- 13:42Speaker 1: that you're necessarily going to embrace it, but if there
- 13:44Speaker 1: are people out there in the business world or within
- 13:47Speaker 1: government that know where the fraud's coming from and they're
- 13:49Speaker 1: keeping their mouth shut, maybe an incentive plan here in
- 13:51Speaker 1: Ohio to have them drop a dime?
- 13:52Speaker 2: 100%. And I think also they need to incentivize the states.
- 13:57Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's a federal government, federal money, and,
- 14:00Speaker 2: you know, you need to let the states retain some
- 14:02Speaker 2: of that money. which would also be another good economic incentive,
- 14:05Speaker 2: but I also agree with the personal incentives because, look,
- 14:07Speaker 2: there's a lot of financial fraud that occurs. And anybody
- 14:10Speaker 2: that thinks there's not a lot of financial fraud in
- 14:13Speaker 2: the system with Medicaid and all these other gigantic government programs,
- 14:17Speaker 2: it's why they cost so much and it's why things
- 14:20Speaker 2: are unaffordable. We need to make government more efficient and
- 14:24Speaker 2: root out this fraud.
- 14:25Speaker 1: Sprague for Ohio. Sounds like a good idea for me.
- 14:28Speaker 1: You got my vote, Robert Sprague. I look forward to
- 14:30Speaker 1: casting it when I get over to the Board of Elections.
- 14:32Speaker 1: I wish you all the best with 13 days left.
- 14:34Speaker 1: If we don't get a chance to talk, my fingers
- 14:36Speaker 1: are crossed, my friend. I know you have the best
- 14:38Speaker 1: interest of Ohioans in mind in the role of Secretary
- 14:41Speaker 1: of State, and I know you will do a fantastic job.