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PASTOR JOHN PAUL MILLER SET FREE ON STALKING WIFE MICA, CHURCH WAS "SEX PLAYGROUND" RPT · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Pastor John Paul Miller out
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Speaker 1: of South Carolina, Myrtle Beach set free, walks free on
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Speaker 1: felony cyberstalking charges that he cyberstalked his wife Micah just
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Speaker 1: before she's found dead, and now a brand new lawsuit
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Speaker 1: claiming the church was just a sex playground for the
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Speaker 1: reverend John Paul Miller. Why is he walking free? Good evening?
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Speaker 1: I mean, see Grace, this is crime Stories. I want
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Speaker 1: to thank you for being with us the fans and
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Speaker 1: died a Myrtle Beach pastor preacher John Paul Miller, after
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Speaker 1: the shocking death of his young wife from the county
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Speaker 1: on the address of your emergency, I'm about to sell in.
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Speaker 1: I caught my family didn't order to find me.
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Speaker 2: Jesus' name.
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Speaker 1: In Jesus' name, every time I see Micah Miller, I
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Speaker 1: feel a great sense of injustice. Amidst claims new claims
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Speaker 1: in a civil lawsuit that Miller, the pastor, and Micah
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Speaker 1: Miller's former husband used in the church as a sexual playground.
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Speaker 1: According to the complainant, the petitioner in that case, she
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Speaker 1: was just fifteen years old when their sex affair started
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Speaker 1: you know, in most jurisdictions with an underage girl, that
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Speaker 1: is called statutory rape. I don't know what's going to
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Speaker 1: become of any criminal charges there, but there is a
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Speaker 1: civil lawsuit right now and this as Pastor John Paul
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Speaker 1: Miller walks free on charges.
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Speaker 3: Listen, my friends, we know just a fraction of what
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Speaker 3: micaeh went through and we're very, very pleased that he
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Speaker 3: has finally been indicted.
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Speaker 4: Outside the Florence Courthouse where JP Miller faces arraignment on
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Speaker 4: federal charges, more than seventy people dressed in purple chant
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Speaker 4: Micah's name, carrying signs with her picture and purple balloons.
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Speaker 4: Miller dressed in a silver suit, refusing to speak to
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Speaker 4: the media and entering the courthouse through a side gate
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Speaker 4: protected by extra security. Some supporters could not enter the
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Speaker 4: packed courtroom where Miller makes his plea.
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Speaker 1: Oh the irony, Oh by the way that videos from
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Speaker 1: our friends at Myrtle Beach, sunnes and w pde the
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Speaker 1: irony Jennifer Wood, the irony that Pastor John Paul Miller
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Speaker 1: shows up in a silver suit demanding anonymity. It reminds
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Speaker 1: me of Harry and Megan's worldwide privacy tour, don't look
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Speaker 1: at me, let me alone as I go on to
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Speaker 1: the late night talk shows. That said, he shows up
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Speaker 1: in this sparkly silver suit, demanding to be left alone
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Speaker 1: and flanked by security, but yet no one protected Micah Miller.
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Speaker 1: Now she's dead. How many times was she allegedly abused,
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Speaker 1: verbally threatened, cyberstalked, you name it by her husband? Can
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Speaker 1: you imagine your own husband posting naked photos of you online?
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Speaker 1: That said, why is he walking free? Jennifer Wood? Why
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Speaker 1: is he out amongst regular people?
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Speaker 5: It's a good question. He is out with an ankle
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Speaker 5: monitor on and with some pretty serious conditions related to
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Speaker 5: his release. To see if he can follow all of
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Speaker 5: those conductions.
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Speaker 1: Please put her up? Okay, Jennifer, I like you. You're
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Speaker 1: an incredible reporter. Did you just say some serious conditions
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Speaker 1: like an ankle monitor. I'm gonna play you some sound
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Speaker 1: in a moment about a guy that elluded police because
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Speaker 1: he put the ankle monitor on his cat. He got
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Speaker 1: a three day lead on the fits right, the cat
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Speaker 1: was wearing the ankle monitor. Is that Do you actually
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Speaker 1: think that's a serious condition? I got another case where
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Speaker 1: a guy committed a rape with the ankle monitor on
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Speaker 1: his ankle. Do you think ankle monitor is going to
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Speaker 1: slow down Pastor John Paul Miller.
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Speaker 5: No, And I also don't think. I mean, we'll see
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Speaker 5: if he can abide by the conditions that they put
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Speaker 5: on him, because he does not seem to be the
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Speaker 5: type of person who can stay quiet. He seems to always,
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Speaker 5: you know, at the most inopportune times, feel like he
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Speaker 5: needs to give his side of the story. It is
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Speaker 5: absolutely bizarre, and I think that is why he is
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Speaker 5: in this position in the first place.
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Speaker 1: Okay, there you see him front and center with his
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Speaker 1: added security coming out of the courthouse. That's for my
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Speaker 1: friend's at WMBF News. Actually, that suit's not sparkling. It's
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Speaker 1: very conservative, unlike his normal get ups. You know, this
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Speaker 1: is what I don't get. Regina Ward joining me. She
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Speaker 1: is a lawyer, high profile lawyer for Michael Miller's family,
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Speaker 1: and she founded the Regina Ward Law firm Regina when
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Speaker 1: I married. From then on, no other guy's attractive to me.
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Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care if they're good looking,
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Speaker 1: if they can dance, if they're funny and witty and brilliant,
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Speaker 1: and the whole thing. Don't care because that's what I
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Speaker 1: signed up for and I'm doing it. I'm doing it
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Speaker 1: self control this guy an ankle monitor. You think it's
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Speaker 1: going to stop him from doing something bizarre and very
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Speaker 1: very wrong.
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Speaker 6: It's not gonna He's never going to be stopped from
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Speaker 6: doing something bizarre because he just is a bizarre person.
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Speaker 2: But I'll tell you everybody was happiest.
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Speaker 6: So was I to learn because the judge at the
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Speaker 6: very end, when he was going through the conditions of
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Speaker 6: the bond, we kept waiting because the US Attorney General's
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Speaker 6: office showed evidence that he was a flight risk and
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Speaker 6: a danger to society. So in order for him to
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Speaker 6: and they wanted this ankle monitor on him.
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Speaker 2: So there was a question, you.
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Speaker 6: Know, because his defense attorney is saying, oh, well, he
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Speaker 6: showed up for court, he's not a flight risk, he.
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Speaker 2: Lives here, et cetera.
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Speaker 6: Well, the judge just didn't buy that, and the judge said, no,
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Speaker 6: putting an ankle monitor on Now.
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Speaker 2: I agree with you, Nancy.
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Speaker 6: It doesn't prevent people from doing committing other crimes or
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Speaker 6: doing something. But I tell you what it does do.
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Speaker 6: It's in his in you know, he tracked Micah for years,
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Speaker 6: for over a year. And so it's such poetic justice
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Speaker 6: that now the US Attorney Jones office.
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Speaker 2: Has a tracker on him to see where he is
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Speaker 2: at all times.
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Speaker 1: If a cat could out smart law enforcement wearing an
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Speaker 1: ankle monitor, even John Paul Miller can do the same.
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Speaker 4: Lessen Martinez Espinoza on house arrest with GPS monitoring after
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Speaker 4: he's caught trying to distribute forty pounds of cocaine. Espinoza's
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Speaker 4: ankle monitor gives frequent tampering notifications, but he's always found
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Speaker 4: at home, claiming no interference with the device authorities. Roughly
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Speaker 4: six weeks later, get a notification it's out of battery.
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Speaker 4: This time Espinoza isn't home and for up to three
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Speaker 4: days the device was tracking his cat.
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm okay. And so everyone's rejoicing that John Paul
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Speaker 1: Miller as an ankle monitor after he gets out of
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Speaker 1: jail on serious charges and myka, it's dead. I'm not
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Speaker 1: rejoicing to me, that's like, okay, behave now. And there's more.
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Speaker 1: Do you recall the name J. C. Duger. I'll never
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Speaker 1: forget it because she was kidnapped on the way to
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Speaker 1: school and she was held hostage for years, she gave
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Speaker 1: birth to three children having been raped by her kidnapper.
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Speaker 1: Guess what he was wearing an ankle monitor. Listen.
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Speaker 4: Philip Garrito serves eleven years of a fifty year sentence
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Speaker 4: for rape with decades of parole. Girrito must visit his
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Speaker 4: parole officer twice a month in addition to bi weekly
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Speaker 4: unannounced home visits. In two thousand and six, Grito is
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Speaker 4: fitted with an ankle monitor. Despite surveillance of Garrito's movements.
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Speaker 4: It's another three years before authorities discover Garrito kept J. C.
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Speaker 4: Lee Duggard captive in his backyard for eighteen years.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's not all. J. C. Duger was held captive
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Speaker 1: and gave birth to three children fathered by rapist Philip
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Speaker 1: Garrito in a shed in his backyard, and he was
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Speaker 1: wearing an ankle monitor. It did nothing, Okay. Bow and Turner.
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Speaker 1: Bow and Turner classic example, he allegedly committed a rape
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Speaker 1: while wearing his ankle monitor.
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Speaker 4: Bo and Turner begins a reign of terror in Orangeburg,
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Speaker 4: South Carolina, with the rape of classmate Dallas Staller. Turner's
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Speaker 4: released on house arrest. Not only does Turner routinely violate
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Speaker 4: the terms of his bond. He rapes a second team
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Speaker 4: while wearing an ankle monitor. When Dallas takes her own life,
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Speaker 4: the solicitor's office drops her case. A thirteen accuses Turner
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Speaker 4: of rape.
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Speaker 7: I went out with my best friend. We went to
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Speaker 7: a party and I stepped outside to make a phone
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Speaker 7: call and he ended up pulling me behind a truck
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Speaker 7: on a tree line. And next thing I know, I'm
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Speaker 7: on the ground and I remember feeling what he was doing,
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Speaker 7: what was going on, And on the inside, I was yelling,
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Speaker 7: I was screaming. I wanted to kick and scream, but
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Speaker 7: it was just like my body. It wouldn't move.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace to Regina war joining me,
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Speaker 1: there seems to be a lot of rejoicing that the
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Speaker 1: pastor has wought free and oh he has to wear
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Speaker 1: an ankle minor. I've got this many cases right here
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Speaker 1: of people that went on to abscond or commit another
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Speaker 1: crime or trick law enforcement while wearing an ankle monitor.
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Speaker 1: So why are you so happy? Are you just like shot?
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Speaker 1: Their charges were actually handed down to start with.
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Speaker 6: Yes, I am, And that was one thing that we've
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Speaker 6: been sitting on edge seat waiting from the beginning, you know,
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Speaker 6: happy whenever we've got that search warrant and went into
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Speaker 6: his home, and happy that the indictment came out, and
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Speaker 6: very happy that there was an arrangement and the rejoicing.
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Speaker 2: Isn't I agree with you, Nancy.
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Speaker 6: It's not as I said earlier, it's not going to
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Speaker 6: prevent him from committing other crimes. But at the end
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Speaker 6: of the day, here's the thing. There was a concern
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Speaker 6: that the judge was not going to put one on him.
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Speaker 6: That is a super scary thought to begin with, because
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Speaker 6: the government needs to know where he is at all times.
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Speaker 2: Now. I understand he can go do other.
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Speaker 6: Things, but the fact that he tracked and stalked Micah,
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Speaker 6: it seemed justifiable. The best form of justice at this
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Speaker 6: point right now is to track mister Miller. So now
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Speaker 6: that he knows that he's been tracked by the government, Okay.
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Speaker 6: So there was a real concern that the judge was
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Speaker 6: not going to issue that. We all felt it was
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Speaker 6: very critical, especially in light of how he's cyber stalked Micah.
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Speaker 2: So just makes sense that the government should.
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Speaker 1: Be Now why we could check him a whole lot
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Speaker 1: better if we were watching him. The close circuit TV
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Speaker 1: walk from his cell to the canteen and back to
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Speaker 1: his cell, and maybe to the cafeteria and maybe for
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Speaker 1: his one hour of recreation in the yard. I could
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Speaker 1: check him a lot better that way, but I agree, Okay,
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Speaker 1: miss lady, whatever you say and uproar outrage after John
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Speaker 1: Paul Miller, the pastor out of Myrtle Beach walks free. Listen.
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Speaker 6: Today Paul Miller was arraigned on federal charges in this courtroom.
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Speaker 2: This is the first step in the judicial process.
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Speaker 1: He was charging with cyberstalking lying to federal investigators. GP.
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Speaker 4: Miller pleads not guilty to cyber stalking in full statements
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Speaker 4: to investigators, weaving his right to speedy trial. Prosecutors claim
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Speaker 4: Miller is a flight risk, citing a large safe silvers
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Speaker 4: invaluable baseball cards found in Miller's home as means to
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Speaker 4: fleet in addition to access to a private plane. The
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Speaker 4: judge setting Miller's bond at one hundred thousand dollars and
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Speaker 4: Miller must surrender his passport and wear an ankle monitor.
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Speaker 1: That from our friends at Myrtle Beach Sun needs. The
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Speaker 1: protest seemingly endless.
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Speaker 8: You're cracking JP.
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Speaker 1: Your REFI as coming. We told you that from the
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Speaker 1: Robbie Harvey on X and Melissa Pfeiffer. Apparently the protesters
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Speaker 1: had more faith than many legal eagles did. Jennifer Wood,
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Speaker 1: she kept saying, following him through the parking lot, the
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Speaker 1: Feds are coming, You're cracking, You're cracking. Nobody ever thought
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Speaker 1: anything would happen, and then bam it did. John Paul Miller,
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Speaker 1: pastor John Paul Miller, just fresh out of an arrangment,
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Speaker 1: walks free with an ankle bracelet. I mean, monitor, Jennifer Wood.
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Speaker 1: What are the charges? PTL. The Feds did go after
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Speaker 1: him when local authorities did nothing. What are the charges?
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Speaker 5: Specifically, Jennifer he is facing federal charges of cyberstocking resulting
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Speaker 5: in death, as well as making false statements to the
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Speaker 5: federal investigators.
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Speaker 1: Okay, regarding the false statements, Sidney Summer joining me Crime
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Speaker 1: Stories investigative reporter, can you elaborate on that? Of course
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Speaker 1: she's correct, but what are the details.
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Speaker 9: So the two false statements that JP Miller got caught in, well,
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Speaker 9: there's more than two. There was one point where Miller
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Speaker 9: claims that they were calling each other back and forth
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Speaker 9: all day, arguing trying to play phone tag. In reality,
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Speaker 9: he called Micah fifty times that day trying to get
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Speaker 9: a hold of her, and she was not participating. She
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Speaker 9: wasn't calling him back. That was harassing phone calls from Miller.
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Speaker 9: In another statement, he claimed that no one had ever
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Speaker 9: told him to stop calling Micah had stopped trying to
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Speaker 9: contact her, But there's record of a police officer having
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Speaker 9: an interaction with Miller and telling him to stop contacting her.
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Speaker 9: And the third one is that Miller claimed he didn't
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Speaker 9: damage mike A's tires that confrontation at the tire shop,
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Speaker 9: but they found evidence he purchased a tired deflation device.
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Speaker 9: So it's very very odd that he's not telling the
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Speaker 9: truth there.
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Speaker 1: Okay, what is that sid a tire deflation device? I mean,
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Speaker 1: I've gotten the twins, so many of those pump your
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Speaker 1: car tire up immediately, you just push a button in
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Speaker 1: case they have a flat, But I have never encountered
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Speaker 1: a tire deflation device. What is that?
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Speaker 9: Well, it's actually used for off roading vehicles. So a
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Speaker 9: lot of times if you have like a four x
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Speaker 9: four and you want to take it into really rocky terrain,
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Speaker 9: you might actually want to let some air out of
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Speaker 9: your tires. You wouldn't do this on a normal vehicle,
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Speaker 9: but they do exist for that purpose.
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Speaker 1: Sidney Sumner, all I could find researching was a rapid
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Speaker 1: flow tire deflator with a gauge for off road air down,
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Speaker 1: an off road air down kit. Okay, did not know
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Speaker 1: that until I began researching the John Paul Miller case.
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Speaker 1: Tell me, Sidney Sumner, does John Paul Miller have an
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Speaker 1: ATV or an off road vehicle?
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Speaker 9: Not that I know of.
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Speaker 1: Nancy Jennifer Wood does he that we know of?
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Speaker 5: I mean, he has plenty of vehicles, access to plenty
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Speaker 5: of vehicles, including a truck, but nothing specifically for off
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Speaker 5: roading that I am aware of.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Sue corn Bluth joining us, and boy do I
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Speaker 1: need a shrink. She is a doctor of clinical psychology,
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Speaker 1: a relationship expert, owner of Doctor Sue and You, and
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Speaker 1: author of Building Self Esteem and Children who Are Adopted
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Speaker 1: It goes on. You can find her at doctor Sue
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Speaker 1: and You dot com. Doctor Sue, thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us. Can this guy, pardon the pun, just charm
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Speaker 1: the pants off at anybody?
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Speaker 10: Oh and Nancy, you got it one hundred percent?
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Speaker 2: Look what I'm.
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Speaker 10: Saying here is I'm listening to all of this and
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Speaker 10: feeling disgusted in so that he is an ankle monitor
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Speaker 10: and probably should be mine.
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Speaker 2: Bars. This is all about him.
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Speaker 11: You know.
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Speaker 10: The one thing that I do, Nancy, is I look
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Speaker 10: right in the eyes, and what I see in his
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Speaker 10: eyes is emptiness. And to me, that's a sign of
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Speaker 10: a pure sociopath. And I don't understand what the judge
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Speaker 10: was thinking by letting him out, and that is scary
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Speaker 10: to me and the population.
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Speaker 1: Well you know what, guys, you're seeing video from Solid
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Speaker 1: Rock Ministries. He didn't just con I think the judge.
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Speaker 1: He didn't just con Micah. He managed to somehow con
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Speaker 1: a whole congregation. Hey, doctor Sue, did you ever see
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Speaker 1: that magicious trick where a magician may like a whole
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Speaker 1: bridge disappear. It was David Copperfield, That's who it was.
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Speaker 1: And my son is a boy's like nine believe that
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Speaker 1: David Copperfield made the whole bridge disappear and insisted this
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Speaker 1: is what he wanted for us to fly him and
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Speaker 1: his twin sister to Vegas to see Copperfield. And we did,
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Speaker 1: and it was a great show, by the way, but
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Speaker 1: there is no way in ag Double Hill that he
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Speaker 1: made a bridge disappear, but everybody believed him because they
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Speaker 1: wanted to believe it. They wanted to see the bridge disappear.
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Speaker 1: What is that? There's got to be some psychological term
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Speaker 1: for that. Where a whole group of people believe the
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Speaker 1: same thing, the same wacky thing.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of much a dissonance.
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Speaker 10: I mean, they want to believe that this person is
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Speaker 10: true because they want to believe in something that gives
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Speaker 10: them a sense of belonging and a sense of purpose.
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Speaker 10: And so they followed him because that need them feel
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Speaker 10: good about themselves.
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Speaker 2: And even if they.
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Speaker 10: Had questions about him, or they had thoughts about him
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Speaker 10: that were not pure, he was giving them something that
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Speaker 10: was making them feel powerful. I mean, isn't that what
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Speaker 10: a lot of pastors do, That they're in these positions
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Speaker 10: and they want to make other people believe in what
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Speaker 10: they're saying to them.
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Speaker 2: It's oftentimes like a cult la following.
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Speaker 10: I'm not saying it's every pastor, but in this particular case,
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Speaker 10: that's what I believe it is. He's in a position
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Speaker 10: of power and control and he uses it to the
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Speaker 10: nth degree to have coercive control over who is listening
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Speaker 10: to him.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Let's take a look at
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Speaker 1: the Reverend John Paul Miller, who is innocent until proven
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Speaker 1: guilty as he snake charms his congregation.
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Speaker 11: Speaking her many years and for the first time, I
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Speaker 11: don't really know exactly you know how to open or
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Speaker 11: how to clocks, or any of that about Micah that
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Speaker 11: you may have it made, I don't know. I can't
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Speaker 11: wait to see her again one day.
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Speaker 2: I'm good.
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Speaker 11: I'm good as the worship leader. And she was bold
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Speaker 11: and confident and anointed and passionate. She was all big
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Speaker 11: enough tattoos and I cannot stand tattoos because they hurt,
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Speaker 11: and I don't like pain, and and I want to
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Speaker 11: read one of the more recent poems she wrote, and
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Speaker 11: that's nothing. She was so creative, she just it was
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Speaker 11: just always just coming out of her. Imagine being married
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Speaker 11: to that.
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Speaker 4: It was like that at her household the time.
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Speaker 1: From Solid Rock Ministries the.
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Speaker 4: Grand Jury charges From November sixteenth, twenty twenty two, until
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Speaker 4: Micah's death on April twenty seventh, twenty twenty four, five
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Speaker 4: hundred and twenty eight days, Miller harassed Micah Count one
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Speaker 4: claims Miller threatened to use nude videos and photos of
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Speaker 4: Micah to harass, posted a nude photo of Micah online
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Speaker 4: without her consent, placed tracking devices on vehicles used by Micah,
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Speaker 4: placed Micah under surveillance with intent to kill, injure, harass,
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Speaker 4: or intimidate, damaged Micah's vehicle, and interfered with Micah's finances.
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Speaker 4: He also interfered with Micah's daily activities.
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Speaker 12: John Paul Miller sent or cause to be sent unwanted
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Speaker 12: and harassing electronic communications to her, used or threatened to
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Speaker 12: use nude videos and photographs of her, posted a nude
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Speaker 12: photo of her online without her consent, placed or caused
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Speaker 12: to be placed a tracking device on her vehicle with
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Speaker 12: the entire to harass and surveil her. And he interviewed
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Speaker 12: with her finances, banking, and interfered with her daily activities.
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Speaker 1: There's another felon account, but let's address count one. Jennifer Wood,
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Speaker 1: joining US journalist director of research fitsnews dot com on
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Speaker 1: the case from the beginning. Jennifer Wood again, thank you
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Speaker 1: for being with us tonight. Explain to me how the
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Speaker 1: naked photo of Micah Miller ended up on the internet.
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Speaker 5: He was using them as leverage and posting them on
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Speaker 5: a Facebook you know, he is known to use fake accounts,
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Speaker 5: and just a continuation of the ongoing harassment that she faced.
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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure this out. So Sidney Summer
23:46
Speaker 1: joining US crimes towards investigative reporter Sidney he posted naked
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Speaker 1: photos of his own wife and retaliation.
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Speaker 9: For what It's unclear what this was in reality four
24:01
Speaker 9: but he apologized and told her he was just trying
24:04
Speaker 9: to hurt her. And this photo was posted to a
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Speaker 9: Facebook group called Big Boobs and Nice Curves. When Mica
24:14
Speaker 9: tried to do something about it, it was posted anonymously
24:17
Speaker 9: and police said there was nothing they could do. But
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Speaker 9: John Paul Miller told her, I'm sorry for doing this.
24:23
Speaker 9: I just wanted to hurt you. It was evil of
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Speaker 9: me to do that.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Regina Ward does complete bs on John Paul Miller's
24:33
Speaker 1: part and of local authorities. I'm just putting it out there.
24:38
Speaker 1: Everyone knows about IP addresses Internet provider addresses. We can
24:44
Speaker 1: track terrorists far far away and the stands Afghanistan and
24:52
Speaker 1: all the stands on the other side of the world.
24:55
Speaker 1: So their IP address. That's why They're always creating new
25:02
Speaker 1: email accounts to send surreptitious missives. You have to go
25:07
Speaker 1: to internet cafes, you have to go to wherever the
25:10
Speaker 1: email's coming from to find them. By them, they've already
25:13
Speaker 1: shut down there and gone somewhere else. But that's easily tracked.
25:19
Speaker 1: That sending of her naked body photo would be easily tracked.
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Speaker 1: Why did local authorities say, oh, well, it was sent anonymously.
25:28
Speaker 1: There is no such thing. If I can track a
25:31
Speaker 1: terror group hiding out somewhere in Egypt or up in
25:35
Speaker 1: the hills in Pakistan, I can catch John Paul Miller
25:40
Speaker 1: hunched over his computer in his basement.
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Speaker 2: Please, that's right. But we have a big problem here
25:47
Speaker 2: in state of South Carolina.
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Speaker 6: We do not have and I'm not sure, but I
25:52
Speaker 6: think I sawstitute or saw where South.
25:55
Speaker 2: Carolina is the only state in the US that does
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Speaker 2: not have.
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Speaker 6: I hate calling it. This is what people refer to
26:02
Speaker 6: it as revenge porn. Obviously that's not what it is,
26:05
Speaker 6: but that's what it's called in the state of South Carolina.
26:08
Speaker 6: The way the law works here is it's if the
26:11
Speaker 6: recipient is you know, is offended by the receipt of it,
26:17
Speaker 6: but if you send the photo to someone, then it
26:19
Speaker 6: becomes their property and he can upload that. So as
26:22
Speaker 6: far as finding out where it came from, that would
26:25
Speaker 6: require getting into his computer.
26:27
Speaker 2: That would require a warrant.
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Speaker 6: But we didn't have a law here in South Carolina
26:33
Speaker 6: against that about that, submit about sending that.
26:38
Speaker 2: So you're you're you're correct.
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Speaker 1: People, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Regina,
26:42
Speaker 1: didn't you have cyber stalking cyber stocking law.
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Speaker 6: There is a cyberstalking law, yes, but whenever it comes to.
26:54
Speaker 2: Nude photos and things like that.
26:57
Speaker 6: The way the law works here, and I'm sorry, don't
26:59
Speaker 6: have it in front of me right now, because I
27:00
Speaker 6: looked into this in the beginning, and that is the
27:03
Speaker 6: law in South Carolina says that if the recipient of
27:09
Speaker 6: a photograph like that is offended by it, then that's
27:12
Speaker 6: a form of harassment. But if you send a photo
27:16
Speaker 6: and give to someone, then it becomes theirs to do
27:19
Speaker 6: what they want to with and that I think. I'm
27:22
Speaker 6: pretty sure that South Carolina is the only state in
27:25
Speaker 6: the US that does not have a law specifically to
27:28
Speaker 6: the dissemination of it.
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Speaker 1: I find that really hard to believe that you take
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Speaker 1: a naked photo of someone and you post it to
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Speaker 1: a Facebook group and yet you've done nothing wrong in
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Speaker 1: South Carolina. And I mean, it's pretty obvious to me
27:42
Speaker 1: that she could tell l E law enforcement who took
27:46
Speaker 1: the photo and who has control over the photo if
27:50
Speaker 1: she's complaining to the police about it. Obviously she didn't
27:53
Speaker 1: send it, so who else had power and control over
27:56
Speaker 1: the photo? Him? John Paul Miller. So explain to me,
27:59
Speaker 1: Jennifer would journalist director research fitsnews dot com. Jennifer, what
28:05
Speaker 1: is your understanding of why local authorities sat on their
28:08
Speaker 1: thumbs and did nothing? And the Feds, who we begged
28:12
Speaker 1: for weeks and weeks and weeks please step in and
28:15
Speaker 1: they did. Why didn't local do anything?
28:20
Speaker 5: Looking at the numerous reports that Micah filed in the
28:23
Speaker 5: month's leading up to her death, they didn't do anything
28:26
Speaker 5: on any of the allegations that she was making. I mean,
28:30
Speaker 5: she called and reported that the tired deflation device had
28:34
Speaker 5: been on a car. They found tracking devices on their car,
28:38
Speaker 5: and other than telling him to knock it off, that
28:42
Speaker 5: is as far as it went.
28:45
Speaker 1: Wow. Two. Doctor Thomas Coyne joining me. You know him well,
28:48
Speaker 1: he's the chief Medical Examiner district to Medical Examiner's office
28:52
Speaker 1: in the state of Florida. Forensic pathologist, toxicologist, and neuropathologist.
28:58
Speaker 1: On Twitter x you can find him at doctor T.
29:02
Speaker 1: M Coin. Doctor Coin, thank you for being with us.
29:06
Speaker 1: You have reviewed all of the findings, and I want
29:10
Speaker 1: to make sure that you not just the local law
29:15
Speaker 1: enforcement who completely botched this case, that you believe Michael
29:21
Speaker 1: Miller committed suicide. I just want to make sure that you,
29:26
Speaker 1: an independent and impartial medical examiner with a pristine reputation,
29:32
Speaker 1: you agree she committed suicide.
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Speaker 13: I do based upline everything I've read and the autopsy report.
29:40
Speaker 13: You know, we're we're good as we're as good as
29:42
Speaker 13: the evidence that we are provided. So in this particular case,
29:45
Speaker 13: just reviewing her her report, I see she was transported
29:49
Speaker 13: to one of the regional medical Examiner's offices, where I
29:51
Speaker 13: assume she was examined by a forensic pathologist. But her
29:56
Speaker 13: external examination clearly shows a content type gunshot entrance wound
30:02
Speaker 13: on the right side of her head, and there was
30:04
Speaker 13: an exit wound on the left side of the head.
30:06
Speaker 13: The fractures that were present on her skull, the bruising
30:10
Speaker 13: around her eyes is all consistent with a gunshot wound
30:14
Speaker 13: that occurred just before death. The external examination also showed
30:18
Speaker 13: no additional trauma to her body, no evidence of strangulation
30:24
Speaker 13: or that she was beaten anywhere, or even any defensive
30:27
Speaker 13: wounds on her body. The only injury that they described
30:30
Speaker 13: is the one that occurred before death, which is a
30:32
Speaker 13: gunshot wound, and some minor post mortem injuries that occurred
30:37
Speaker 13: from her being in the water. So at that point
30:40
Speaker 13: you have the cause of death. We know the cause
30:42
Speaker 13: of death, which is gunshot wound of the head consistent
30:44
Speaker 13: with a contact type. Then the question becomes what is
30:47
Speaker 13: the matter. Is it a suicide or a homicide? And
30:51
Speaker 13: you take in all of the additional information that comes
30:54
Speaker 13: from law enforcement, and we're only as good as that information.
30:57
Speaker 13: So in this particular case, we know that she made
30:59
Speaker 13: that nine to one call, we know that she purchased
31:02
Speaker 13: the gun. There's nothing on sen to suggest as someone
31:06
Speaker 13: else was there with her or may have actually pulled
31:08
Speaker 13: that trigger. So all the preponderance of the evidence here
31:12
Speaker 13: indicatese that this is a gunshot wan of the head,
31:15
Speaker 13: cause a death, manner of death suicide.
31:18
Speaker 1: To Regina Ward, the lawyer for Michael Miller's family. Many
31:21
Speaker 1: people did not believe that she had committed suicide. There
31:26
Speaker 1: is video of her in the gun shop buying the gun.
31:31
Speaker 1: If it had not been for this video, Regina, I
31:35
Speaker 1: might not have believed it myself. But the video shows
31:39
Speaker 1: her buying the gun, and the gun shop owner has
31:45
Speaker 1: copious records of what gun was purchased. And it was
31:48
Speaker 1: the gun that was the weapon, the killing weapon that
31:54
Speaker 1: convinced me. What does the family think.
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Speaker 2: Well, her father said that she was concerned and feared
32:01
Speaker 2: for her life with regard to John Paul Miller, and
32:04
Speaker 2: that she purchased that gun for actually self direction.
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Speaker 6: So that's what the family understood was happening. That's what
32:11
Speaker 6: That's what the father said. Well, he was told prior
32:14
Speaker 6: to her buying that gun.
32:16
Speaker 2: And if I may name so, I just want to
32:17
Speaker 2: go back to that the photo dissemination.
32:21
Speaker 6: We were the last state in the US to pass
32:23
Speaker 6: the Laway just passed May the twelfth, the twenty twenty
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Speaker 6: five that the dissemination of intimate photos without consent is
32:30
Speaker 6: finally now illegal in the state of South Carolina.
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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, that was after Micau's passing.
32:37
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm glad you brought that up. It may have
32:39
Speaker 1: been after after MICA's passing, but I believe you said
32:42
Speaker 1: May twenty five. Let me check, but I'm pretty sure
32:48
Speaker 1: it's nearly February of twenty six. But even though that
32:53
Speaker 1: passed in South Carolina, the local authorities did nothing. That's
32:56
Speaker 1: a yes no, isn't that true?
33:00
Speaker 2: Correct?
33:00
Speaker 6: And that's been a problem the whole time, is no action.
33:04
Speaker 6: But I've said before what's been difficult in the state
33:07
Speaker 6: of South Carolina is we don't have a law on
33:09
Speaker 6: the books for the police to look to to put
33:12
Speaker 6: all of these different types of things together in terms
33:15
Speaker 6: of course of control abuse, and so the law is
33:19
Speaker 6: very much neg so the police can have something to
33:21
Speaker 6: look to and go say, hey, you know, she's called
33:24
Speaker 6: us here. You know twenty times she's showing us information
33:28
Speaker 6: that he is constantly calling her over and over. The
33:31
Speaker 6: police even asked him to stop talking or contacting her,
33:35
Speaker 6: and he did it anyway. So definitely should have been
33:38
Speaker 6: something done. But even on a bigger scale, it should
33:41
Speaker 6: have been done. But the police did not have the
33:43
Speaker 6: law for course of control to look to to be
33:46
Speaker 6: able to arrest him for all of these things, and
33:48
Speaker 6: the totality of all of the things and the terrible
33:51
Speaker 6: things that this man did to this woman.
33:53
Speaker 1: The fans bring down the hammer on Pastor John Paul
33:57
Speaker 1: Miller in connection with his wife Micah Miller and her
34:00
Speaker 1: bodies house submerged in a body of water. Many debute.
34:04
Speaker 1: Still a says Micah Miller was murdered.
34:08
Speaker 11: She was so creative. Everything she did was so creative.
34:10
Speaker 11: Was the next.
34:17
Speaker 1: That from our friends at Solid Rock Ministries. Now we
34:19
Speaker 1: understand count one. There are several counts, and the Pastor
34:24
Speaker 1: John Paul Miller has walked free. To Jennifer Wood, there
34:29
Speaker 1: are two counts.
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Speaker 5: Two counts currently. But I did note that in the
34:33
Speaker 5: press conference following the hearing his arraignment that the US
34:38
Speaker 5: Attorney Brian Sterling, who attended this hearing in person, said
34:43
Speaker 5: that the investigation was ongoing. So that I found that
34:49
Speaker 5: very interesting.
34:50
Speaker 1: Interesting ongoing. Jennifer Wood, what could that possibly mean?
34:54
Speaker 5: It's a good question. I mean, inside the hearing, there
34:58
Speaker 5: were so many agents like it was it was unreal
35:04
Speaker 5: how many federal agents came to that hearing, along with
35:07
Speaker 5: the US Attorney himself. So my I mean, if you're
35:12
Speaker 5: reading the tea leaves, I would have to say that
35:14
Speaker 5: they are not done with their investigation.
35:17
Speaker 1: Wow, I wonder where this could head. You know what
35:22
Speaker 1: it may be. We know that there have been cases
35:26
Speaker 1: that have been tried and one where someone is accused
35:31
Speaker 1: of driving someone to suicide. And it's not just one
35:37
Speaker 1: or two cases. There are multiple cases like that. Speaking
35:42
Speaker 1: of other cases, regarding the penalty on these two counts, listen.
35:47
Speaker 12: If he has found guilty for cyberstalking, could be five years,
35:51
Speaker 12: it could be between nine and ten years, depending on
35:54
Speaker 12: the charges that the jury decides that he's guilty of.
35:56
Speaker 12: And then with the lying to the police, that's also
35:59
Speaker 12: an another five years, possibly even eight years that he
36:02
Speaker 12: had received behind bars, So he could get almost twenty
36:04
Speaker 12: years behind bars. He'd get a huge fine, and he
36:07
Speaker 12: could have to be on probation for many years.
36:10
Speaker 1: Sad's do what state authorities would not do. They bring
36:14
Speaker 1: down the hammer on the so called pastor John Paul
36:18
Speaker 1: Miller after the Swamp Deaf shooting of his wife, Micah Miller,
36:24
Speaker 1: who he allegedly harassed straight into a gunshop. She's on
36:29
Speaker 1: number one plane. I'm a gout challis. His wife is
36:33
Speaker 1: dead and he referred to that as still dealing with
36:37
Speaker 1: Micah now there are claims that Michah Miller's pastor husband
36:44
Speaker 1: sex assault that a fifteen year old girl calling his
36:49
Speaker 1: church a sex playground. According to the lawsuit again tonight,
36:55
Speaker 1: John Paul Miller is presumed innocent until proven guilty in
36:58
Speaker 1: a court of law. He pled not guilty and now
37:02
Speaker 1: it's time for a trial. Straight out to Jennifer Wood
37:06
Speaker 1: joining us from fitnews dot com, what can you tell
37:10
Speaker 1: me about this civil lawsuit claiming that John Paul Miller
37:14
Speaker 1: used the church as a sexual playground.
37:17
Speaker 5: So there's actually two civil lawsuits against John Paul Miller
37:21
Speaker 5: out of Ory County filed by Jane Doe one in
37:24
Speaker 5: Jane Doe two. Both of those are accusing John Paul
37:29
Speaker 5: Miller of sexual assault when they were underage. The allegations
37:36
Speaker 5: in these lawsuits are absolutely horrific. These women are traumatized
37:41
Speaker 5: and it's hard. I mean, I know, these lawsuits are difficult,
37:45
Speaker 5: and John Paul Miller certainly isn't making it easier. He
37:48
Speaker 5: has filed counterclaims against both of these women for defamation.
37:55
Speaker 5: So you know, these ongoing lawsuits are I mean just sad.
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Speaker 1: Well, guys, this video from sod Right Ministries. According to
38:06
Speaker 1: court documents. The lawsuits allege Miller lured the girl fifteen,
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Speaker 1: into his father's office before forcing her into a truck
38:16
Speaker 1: where he assaulted her. It claimbs Miller attempted to justify
38:20
Speaker 1: his actions using a Bible verse quote, no man is
38:26
Speaker 1: without sin and temptation. God understands that. I'm not so
38:31
Speaker 1: sure that that's true, Doctor Sue Cornblooth, joining us he
38:37
Speaker 1: actually dragged christ into this, according to the lawsuit.
38:43
Speaker 2: I believe it.
38:44
Speaker 10: I mean, I think everything that we've been talking about here,
38:48
Speaker 10: that he lives in a world that.
38:50
Speaker 2: Is not reality based.
38:52
Speaker 10: He is filled with power inside himself that is fake,
38:58
Speaker 10: and that he uses it to coerce people into doing
39:02
Speaker 10: things that he wants to do. It's within his manipulative nature.
39:08
Speaker 1: To Jennifer Wood in this civil lawsuit, there are several
39:14
Speaker 1: I think two women joining together with similar claims.
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Speaker 5: Yes, two, and I mean, honestly, I've spoken to more
39:22
Speaker 5: victims who have not come forward formally yet with similar
39:25
Speaker 5: allegations and heart it's heartbreaking what they've gone through.
39:31
Speaker 1: Doctor Thomas Coin, here's a problem, uh Thomas Coin, Chief
39:36
Speaker 1: Medical Examiner District to med Office in State of Florida.
39:40
Speaker 1: Doctor Coin, there's no physical proof at this juncture regarding
39:47
Speaker 1: the rape allegations, because a lot of time has passed.
39:50
Speaker 1: You would have to do a rape kit at the
39:53
Speaker 1: time of the incident, correct, What would that entail?
39:58
Speaker 13: Sure? So they would have had to have examined I'm
40:01
Speaker 13: assuming they did examine her for sexual assault at the
40:03
Speaker 13: time of the external examination, so that it would have
40:06
Speaker 13: been looking into the vaginal vault, looking to see if
40:09
Speaker 13: there was any trauma or the president of any seminal fluid.
40:13
Speaker 13: And at that time they could have sampled for seminal
40:16
Speaker 13: fluid or any other body of fluids if it was
40:18
Speaker 13: present within her, and that would have been able to
40:21
Speaker 13: be accomplished without having to perform a full autopsy, So
40:24
Speaker 13: they could have done that upon their external examination.
40:29
Speaker 1: One thing, though we've got Sidney Sumner is strengthen numbers,
40:34
Speaker 1: because if there are two women now joining together in
40:37
Speaker 1: that civil lawsuit, and Jennifer Wood says that she has
40:41
Speaker 1: spoken to other alleged victims, I think I'm starting to
40:45
Speaker 1: understand why there were federal agents blanketing that courtroom when
40:51
Speaker 1: he entered the not guilty play and walked free.
40:53
Speaker 9: Sydney Yes, Nancy, and the allegations in that second lawsuit
40:58
Speaker 9: coming from Jane Doe Number two are horrific. She claims
41:03
Speaker 9: that while attending a school operated by John Paul Miller
41:07
Speaker 9: and his father, reginald Wayne Miller, John Paul came on
41:12
Speaker 9: to her multiple times at just fourteen years old, and
41:16
Speaker 9: when she tried to tell someone about what was going
41:18
Speaker 9: on who was Miller's father, She told her to repeat
41:24
Speaker 9: her accusation in front of John Paul Miller and then
41:28
Speaker 9: punished her, told her she was lying, and forced her
41:32
Speaker 9: to write the words I will not lie about John
41:35
Speaker 9: Paul Miller five thousand times, and her remaining time at
41:39
Speaker 9: the school was filled with bullying, an assault for coming
41:43
Speaker 9: forward about a responsible adult, her teacher coming on to her.
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Speaker 1: You know what do I dare ask the FEDS to
41:53
Speaker 1: continue their investigation? You know I think I will. Our
41:56
Speaker 1: plate tonight is please continue your investment mitigation. I accept
42:02
Speaker 1: that Micah committed suicide. I do not accept that he
42:07
Speaker 1: can walk free on all of these allegations. Again, John
42:13
Speaker 1: Paul Miller is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a
42:16
Speaker 1: court of law. That's our constitution and I uphold it.
42:21
Speaker 1: But I can have a belief that's constitutional too. Tonight
42:27
Speaker 1: we remember an American hero. Detactive to Jason rivera New
42:31
Speaker 1: York CITYPD shot in the line of duty after one
42:34
Speaker 1: year on the fourth, leaving behind his young widow. American
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