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Texas-OU Preview, MLB Postseason Insights, Cowboys Prepare for Bucs · The Craig Way Show

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  Speaker 1: It's on the Thursday of a Texas OU week.
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  Speaker 2: And we're glad to have you with us. here on
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  Speaker 2: this Thursday afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the program here on Sports Radio AM 1300
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  Speaker 1: The Zone.
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  Speaker 2: My name is Craig Way. Glad to have you.
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  Speaker 1: Alongside and alongside the producer, Jake Herman. We're with you
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  Speaker 1: each and every weekday afternoon, Monday through Friday from 2
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  Speaker 1: to 5 p.m. Now tomorrow, because this is Texas OU week,
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  Speaker 1: we have a little bit different type of presentation for you.
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  Speaker 1: We'll have the show for you, but it'll be coming
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  Speaker 1: your way from Dallas like we do every year the
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  Speaker 1: day before Texas OU. We'll be at Bar W on
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  Speaker 1: Maple Avenue in Dallas. This has turned out to be
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  Speaker 1: a wonderful spot for us to do the show the
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  Speaker 1: day before Texas OU. You know, in the early part
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  Speaker 1: of this century, the early 2000s, we used to do
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  Speaker 1: the show from the hop route down in the West End.
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  Speaker 1: And it was great, a lot of foot traffic and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of, you know, stuff going on, give and
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  Speaker 1: take between fans and things like that.
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  Speaker 2: When that died off.
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  Speaker 1: In that area and the businesses in that area, It
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  Speaker 1: was a matter of where should we be? And we
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  Speaker 1: tried into different places, but we landed on this a
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  Speaker 1: couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 2: And credit my card ball heart.
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  Speaker 1: He had a lot to do with this, knowing the
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  Speaker 1: owners and management there at Bar W on Maple. And
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  Speaker 1: as a person who lived in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex
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  Speaker 1: for more than 20 years, Yeah, I grew up in
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  Speaker 1: North Carolina, but I've spent most of my life in
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  Speaker 1: the state of Texas. I moved out here when I
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  Speaker 1: was 18 and, like I said, spent basically 20 years
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  Speaker 1: in the Metroplex. Went to college in North Texas and
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  Speaker 1: also North Lake College in Irving to get some basics
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  Speaker 1: out of the way at the JUCO level. But, and
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  Speaker 1: worked in radio and television in Dallas for the better
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  Speaker 1: part of some 15 years. and while it was going on,
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  Speaker 1: I got to know the city really well, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of places, and one of the areas that was really
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  Speaker 1: cool was that uptown area that's near, and if you've
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  Speaker 1: been up there, you know what I'm talking about, where
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  Speaker 1: Maple and Ruth and Cedar Springs and Oak Lawn and
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  Speaker 1: all that area is up in there, and included in
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  Speaker 1: that on Maple Avenue, there was a long time, a
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  Speaker 1: long hotel forever called the Stone League, and then across
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  Speaker 1: the street, the or next to, was the Stonely P.
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  Speaker 2: It was a bar.
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  Speaker 1: And it was a really hip, cool bar. Well, that
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  Speaker 1: eventually went away. But Bar W is in that space now.
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  Speaker 1: And it's a great location. And a lot of Texas
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  Speaker 1: and Oklahoma fans show up there. It's a really good
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  Speaker 1: vibe and a good atmosphere. So what we have is
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  Speaker 1: a five-hour Texas OU preview program for you tomorrow. I'll
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  Speaker 1: be out there. Mike Hardball-Hards will be out there. Mark
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  Speaker 1: Henry will be there.
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  Speaker 2: Also.
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  Speaker 1: Cameron Parker will be out there with us. Bucky and
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  Speaker 1: BK will be there with us. Our friend Babe Laufenberg
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  Speaker 1: from the Cowboys Radio Network will actually stop by. He
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  Speaker 1: lives kind of in the vicinity. Of course, he's busy
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  Speaker 1: tonight because the Cowboys are playing the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
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  Speaker 2: And you can hear that game on 98.1 FM KVET.
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  Speaker 1: So place to be tomorrow, the day before Texas OU,
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  Speaker 1: is Bar W on Maple Avenue, and that's where we
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  Speaker 1: will bring you the program. Quarterbacking it all back here,
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  Speaker 1: keeping it between the lines and within the framework of
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  Speaker 1: the guardrails, is the producer, Jake Herman. You did a
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  Speaker 1: lot of good baseball watching in last night, did you?
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  Speaker 3: Well, a lot of good listening on my way up
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  Speaker 3: to Southwestern. And then I got home in time. That's right,
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  Speaker 3: you had volleyball last night. I did at Foresetter, Southwestern
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  Speaker 3: Victorious over Concordia University, Texas.
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  Speaker 4: So nicely done there by the Pirates.
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  Speaker 3: But got home, fired on the television, got to see
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  Speaker 3: the ending of Yankees Rays. I was able to walk
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  Speaker 3: in the door just in time to see that controversial
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  Speaker 3: replay review. on Anthony Volpe's would-be home run. I couldn't
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  Speaker 3: help but think, when will Yankee fans learn to stop
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  Speaker 3: reaching over the wall?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I started to say, for those of us OGs,
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  Speaker 1: the images of Jeffrey Mayer in 1996.
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  Speaker 4: And last year in the World Series.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, happened in the World Series. Well, two years ago
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  Speaker 1: it would have been.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. In the World Series.
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  Speaker 1: But the original one to do that was 12-year-old Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Mayer some 30 years ago in 1996. And I can
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  Speaker 1: still see Roberto Alomar at the ball going wild. And
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  Speaker 1: they gave Derek Jeter a home run on that deal
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  Speaker 1: before they changed the rule.
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  Speaker 2: So you got a chance to see that.
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  Speaker 3: Saw that and then saw the poetry in motion that
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  Speaker 3: was the Brewers-Padres series. I wish the series never ended,
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  Speaker 3: but we do have the NLCS matchup that I wanted
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  Speaker 3: before the playoffs. And that is the mighty back-to-back champion
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  Speaker 3: Dodgers against the team with the best record in baseball,
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  Speaker 3: the Brewers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that I think is definitely going to be the
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  Speaker 1: biggest challenge for the Dodgers. getting past Milwaukee, the team
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  Speaker 1: with the best record, and played like it. And they
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  Speaker 1: play such a great brand of baseball as well. Having
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  Speaker 1: said that, the Dodgers went all the way through that
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  Speaker 1: NLDS series with Atlanta without committing an error. They played
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  Speaker 1: very clean baseball as well, even though they struggled to
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  Speaker 1: hit with runners. scoring position. The last time they had one, though,
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  Speaker 1: it worked out. Andy Pius with the two-run single. Otherwise,
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  Speaker 1: they were 0-14 before that. We'll hear that highlight a
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  Speaker 1: little later on. I thought that Atlanta, I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: it's one of those situations, right? You're playing the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 1: You got to play your best.
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  Speaker 3: And I know the Braves were a team that did
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  Speaker 3: the little things pretty well all year long under Walt Weiss.
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  Speaker 3: That did not come through for them last night. The
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  Speaker 3: drop pop-up, I didn't like the decision to pull Tyler Malley,
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  Speaker 3: even though now we're playing, what, Thursday afternoon quarterback on this.
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  Speaker 5: Right, right.
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  Speaker 3: But I thought with 85 pitches, having only given up
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  Speaker 3: the run on the error, you could have let him
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  Speaker 3: keep going. I know what the numbers say. Your third
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  Speaker 3: time through, I know what Robert Suarez brings. out of
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  Speaker 3: that bullpen but that's a decision that i know walt
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  Speaker 3: weiss who might well be one of the managers of
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  Speaker 3: the year finalist is going to be kicking himself for.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah and then and then on top of this just
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  Speaker 1: it didn't hit it didn't hit.
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  Speaker 3: Enough my braves fan friend brett loftus who's actually in
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  Speaker 3: dc this week with the banana bowl he said that
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  Speaker 3: you can't win a playoff series doesn't matter who you're
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  Speaker 3: playing if your batting average starts with.
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  Speaker 1: A one yeah um i think i saw uh what's
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  Speaker 1: that Twitter site, Braves Cold Takes or something like that,
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  Speaker 1: that said, what do Austin Riley, Stonewall Jackson, and Jesus
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  Speaker 1: have in common?
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  Speaker 2: They all had zero hits in the NLDS. Oh, ruthless. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. So, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So did that guy on Twitter, by the way. Yeah, right, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And so, yeah, it's... It was tough. It was tough.
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  Speaker 1: And really and truly the ones that have struggled mightily also,
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  Speaker 1: you think about it, Ronald Acuna Jr. I think I
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  Speaker 1: heard when I was driving in this morning, I heard
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  Speaker 1: Colin Cowherd say that for all the yammering a lot
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  Speaker 1: of folks do about the Dodgers payroll and all.
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  Speaker 2: This, it was an $ 800, 000 guy who.
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  Speaker 1: That Andy Pahez, who got what proved to be the
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  Speaker 1: game-winning hit, Pahez and Kike Hernandez, and the two guys
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  Speaker 1: for the Braves, Acuna and Albies, I guess it was,
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  Speaker 1: combined for $ 59 million on their payroll. And that's cheap
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  Speaker 1: for star power in today's MLB. Yeah, I think they're
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  Speaker 1: sixth overall in payroll, Atlanta. But they just didn't get
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  Speaker 1: enough production, not enough offensive production to make a big difference.
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  Speaker 2: Ultimately, the pitching would give out.
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  Speaker 3: And in the American League, should the Dodgers win the pennant,
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  Speaker 3: they will await one of the teams with the bottom
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  Speaker 3: four payrolls in the league. Yankees are done. You got
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  Speaker 3: the Rays, Guardians, and White Sox, 26th, 27th, 29th.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And which I think is further credence to when people
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  Speaker 1: say it's all about the payroll.
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  Speaker 2: It's not all about the payroll.
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  Speaker 1: No, sir.
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  Speaker 2: And when you see some of the others.
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  Speaker 1: Toward that end, coming up in a few minutes, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to visit with Gene Watson, our good friend, our
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  Speaker 1: MLB insider from the Chicago White Sox front office. He's
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  Speaker 1: in the Windy City, obviously game four tonight. Between the
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  Speaker 1: Sox and the Cleveland Guardians, the one remaining ALDS series
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  Speaker 1: to get completed before they move on to the league
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  Speaker 1: championship series. The winner to take on the one seed
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  Speaker 1: out of the American League, the Milwaukee Brewers. Excuse me,
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  Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Rays. Before we get to the break, today,
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  Speaker 1: of course, and there's plenty of football to discuss, Texas
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  Speaker 1: OU style. Longhorns head coach Steve Sarkeesian at his weekly
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  Speaker 1: Thursday media Zoom. Give you a little taste of it
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  Speaker 1: now and some more of it as the show progresses.
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  Speaker 1: His opening comments from this morning's media Zoom.
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  Speaker 6: First and foremost, before we get started, I just want
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  Speaker 6: to give a shout out. Congratulations to Coach Mack Brown
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  Speaker 6: on his induction into the Cotton Bowl Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 6: You know, he's obviously had a tremendous career. I've done
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  Speaker 6: so many great things here on the 40 acres. And
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  Speaker 6: so him getting honored, you know, kind of fitting with
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  Speaker 6: us playing in the cotton bowl here against OU is
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  Speaker 6: a pretty fitting and well-deserved for him. From, from our
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  Speaker 6: team's perspective, man, I'm really proud of the guys. I
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  Speaker 6: thought they'd done a tremendous job this week of, you know,
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  Speaker 6: really minimizing the distractions and staying focused on the task
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  Speaker 6: at hand. We had really good week of work from
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  Speaker 6: a practice perspective. And, I think that they've been very
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  Speaker 6: intentional and detailed in their approach, but yet it was
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  Speaker 6: a hard physical week, which is needed because this is
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  Speaker 6: going to be a hard physical game. So this is
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  Speaker 6: a heck of a game. We're obviously looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 6: We know we're going to get... all that OU's got.
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  Speaker 6: They're a very good team. I know that, you know,
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  Speaker 6: they'll be ready to play and it's important that we're
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  Speaker 6: ready to play as well.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: We'll hear more from Sark during the course of the day.
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  Speaker 1: Later this hour, we have inconceivable and inconceivable.
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  Speaker 2: On the day before we leave for OU is always
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  Speaker 2: one specific thing. State Fair food.
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  Speaker 6: Mmm.
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  Speaker 3: Looks like I picked a bad day to eat lunch early.
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  Speaker 3: I'm getting hungry again.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to run down all of the State Fair
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  Speaker 1: food options for you on that. In the 3 o'clock
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  Speaker 1: hour and the 4 o'clock hour, I'll give you a
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  Speaker 1: little sneak preview of tonight's Longhorn Weekly with Coach Sark.
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  Speaker 1: In the 3 o'clock hour, just an overview of the
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  Speaker 1: team going into.
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  Speaker 2: Texas OU weekend.
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  Speaker 1: 4 o'clock hour, dialing on some specifics on this matchup
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  Speaker 1: with Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 2: But up next.
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  Speaker 1: We talk playoff baseball with Gene Watson, our MLB insider,
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  Speaker 1: on 13 Under the Zone. So here we are coming
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  Speaker 1: up on the second weekend in October. We know what
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  Speaker 1: that means on the second Saturday in October in Dallas,
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  Speaker 1: Texas OU weekend. We'll get back to that and hear
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  Speaker 1: more from Sark later on. But also, that second weekend
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  Speaker 1: in October means that we're going to be wrapping up
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  Speaker 1: division play. in the division series. Three of the four
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  Speaker 1: have been completed now in the National League. The one
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  Speaker 1: seed Milwaukee Brewers defeated the San Diego Padres in four games.
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  Speaker 1: The two seed Los Angeles Dodgers defeated the Atlanta Braves
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  Speaker 1: in four games. And in the American League, the top
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  Speaker 1: seed there, the Tampa Bay Rays, swept the New York Yankees,
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  Speaker 1: finishing off the Yanks last night. There is one series
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  Speaker 1: left to be contested, and it'll be game four tonight
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  Speaker 1: against in Chicago between the White Sox, the number six seed,
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  Speaker 1: and their division rivals, the Cleveland Guardians, who were the
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  Speaker 1: two seed, even though Chicago won the regular season series
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  Speaker 1: between the two. It's been marvelous so far through the
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  Speaker 1: three games. The Sox are up two games to one.
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  Speaker 1: Our MLB insider from the Chicago White Sox front office
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  Speaker 1: is none other than our good friend Gene Watson, who
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  Speaker 1: joins us from the Windy City. How excited is the
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  Speaker 1: Windy City, Geno, going into tonight's game?
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  Speaker 7: It's so bizarre.
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  Speaker 8: We are actually staying across the street from Wrigley Field
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  Speaker 8: at the Zachary Hotel because there are no games at
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  Speaker 8: Wrigley Field. And this hotel is unbelievable. And with everything
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  Speaker 8: going on in the city of Chicago right now, it
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  Speaker 8: was the.
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  Speaker 2: Most available hotel.
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  Speaker 8: So being in Wrigleyville and then heading south down to
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  Speaker 8: Rayfield is kind of unique. But last night was about
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  Speaker 8: as wild. Yesterday was about as wild a scene as
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  Speaker 8: I've ever seen. At a playoff game with a blackout
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  Speaker 8: game and the energy, them not having had a playoff
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  Speaker 8: game in forever here. So it was a really cool
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  Speaker 8: scene and we're looking forward to doing it again tonight.
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  Speaker 1: I think I know the answer to this question, but
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  Speaker 1: I'll ask it anyway. I think back to when you
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  Speaker 1: first accepted the job to go into the front office
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  Speaker 1: with the White Sox coming over from the Angels. going
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  Speaker 1: on two years ago, and they were coming off 121 losses.
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  Speaker 1: And I remember asking you about it. You talked about
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  Speaker 1: the rebuild that you said you thought it would not
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  Speaker 1: be as difficult to rebuild as what you had to
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  Speaker 1: do in Kansas City, which was to build that and
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  Speaker 1: the two pennant winners and world champion.
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  Speaker 2: But my question is this, if when you.
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  Speaker 1: First took that job, somebody said, if you take this job,
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  Speaker 1: Within two years, the White Sox will be one win
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  Speaker 1: away from advancing to the final four of Major League Baseball,
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  Speaker 1: the ALCS.
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  Speaker 2: Would you have signed on for that by itself?
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  Speaker 8: Well, first of all, I wouldn't have believed it, but yeah, 100%.
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  Speaker 2: It's a.
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  Speaker 4: Testimony to.
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  Speaker 8: Our front office and the backgrounds of each and the
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  Speaker 8: strengths of each individual in the front office, the track
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  Speaker 8: record that each of them have coming from winning organizations
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  Speaker 8: and just being selfless and pouring into each other and
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  Speaker 8: identifying the types of players that embody what we want
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  Speaker 8: the Chicago White Sox to be about.
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  Speaker 6: It's been so much fun.
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  Speaker 8: We're a year ahead of schedule. I actually sat with
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  Speaker 8: Jerry Reinsdorf last night and as disappointed as he was
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  Speaker 8: in the way we played yesterday, one of the things
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  Speaker 8: that we talked about is how much we have looked
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  Speaker 8: forward to going into next season. And so you keep
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  Speaker 8: your eye on the prize. We win a game tonight.
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  Speaker 8: We get to keep playing, and that's the goal. But
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  Speaker 8: it is really exciting to see what we've built here
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  Speaker 8: in such.
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  Speaker 6: A short time.
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  Speaker 1: Gino, I know it was more than just this one
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  Speaker 1: thing that I'm going to bring up, but I am
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  Speaker 1: interested in getting your thoughts on this. With the way
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  Speaker 1: the White Sox pitched and the way the White Sox
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  Speaker 1: hit and fielded in the first two ballgames, it looked stellar.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing they did that I thought, and I
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  Speaker 1: remember you mentioning it, is this is a key going
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  Speaker 1: into the series, is how... they would pitch to and
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  Speaker 1: be able to play and deal with Jose Ramirez. Well,
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  Speaker 1: going into game three, he was 0 for 6 in
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  Speaker 1: the series, and then he went out and went 2
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  Speaker 1: for 4 yesterday, a double, a triple, two RBIs, two
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  Speaker 1: runs scored, stolen base. He kind of looked like the
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  Speaker 1: Jose Ramirez everybody knows and has seen all season long.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of hard to keep a good man down, isn't it?
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  Speaker 4: No question.
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  Speaker 8: He's the one guy you don't want to let beat you,
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  Speaker 8: but I think there were two things from yesterday's game.
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  Speaker 8: our young kids had never played in their lives in
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  Speaker 8: that type of environment. And I think that was a
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  Speaker 8: factor in the, in the, the way that they approach
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  Speaker 8: the game a little bit. And Jose Ramirez, it just
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  Speaker 8: amped him up. It, I mean, he's hollering at our
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  Speaker 8: fans and in the stands and the dugout and getting
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  Speaker 8: his teammates amped up. So it was like a wake
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  Speaker 8: up call for him. Like, Hey, wait a minute.
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  Speaker 2: This is October.
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  Speaker 4: I know what this is.
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  Speaker 8: And, So I think it was kind of two sides
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  Speaker 8: of the spectrum with that yesterday. And then our, our
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  Speaker 8: kids will do a better job today of slowing the
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  Speaker 8: game down. And again, I've never seen a crowd like
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  Speaker 8: I saw yesterday. And for a guy like Jose Ramirez, that's,
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  Speaker 8: That's your motivation to show everybody on the biggest stage
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  Speaker 8: who the best player is, and he is one of
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  Speaker 8: the best in baseball.
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  Speaker 2: No doubt about that.
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  Speaker 1: Gene Watson with us, joining us here on 1300 The Zone.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned the crowd. You mentioned the environment. The White
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  Speaker 1: Sox are trying to win a home postseason game for
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  Speaker 1: the first time since 1906, or at least a clinch,
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  Speaker 1: a series. at home win a postseason series at home
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  Speaker 1: for the first time since the crosstown rivalry matchup with
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  Speaker 1: the cubs in 1906 how much has that been talked
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  Speaker 1: about up there do you know the fact that the
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: white socks have not been able to clinch a series
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: of course when they swept the astros 21 years ago
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: to win the World Series. They finished that on the road.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: They had a chance to win it in 59, lost
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: it home to the Dodgers in that year. So it
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: goes way on back all the way to 1906, the
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: last time they had a chance to win a series
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: at home. How much would that mean to the city
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: of Chicago and to the White Sox nation overall?
• 17:17
  Speaker 8: You know, it's an organization of very rich history and
• 17:21
  Speaker 8: great players. And, you know, walking down the hallway in
• 17:24
  Speaker 8: our offices yesterday, there's Ron Kittle, there's Jim Tomey, there's
• 17:29
  Speaker 8: Harold Baines, Bo Jackson, Frank Thomas. And so it's an
• 17:34
  Speaker 8: organization with very rich history. I think the South side
• 17:39
  Speaker 8: is just super excited that, that the White Sox are
• 17:42
  Speaker 8: playing in the Cubs or not. And that has been
• 17:45
  Speaker 8: the big talk because I mean, of all the things
• 17:47
  Speaker 8: we've talked about, if you would have said in April,
• 17:50
  Speaker 8: the White Sox would still be playing in the playoffs.
• 17:52
  Speaker 8: and the Cubs would not, I think you could have
• 17:55
  Speaker 8: gotten a lot of takers on that bet. But that's
• 17:59
  Speaker 8: been more of the topic, more than the winning a
• 18:02
  Speaker 8: home playoff series, is that we're still playing and the
• 18:06
  Speaker 8: Cubs are not.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Jeez, Gino, I thought you were going to be old
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: school like me and talk about walking down the halls.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I thought you were going to mention Louie Aparicio and
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Nellie Fox and early win Ted Kluszewski, all of those guys, right?
• 18:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it is very unique. I mean, You come around
• 18:23
  Speaker 8: the corner, and Harold Baines is just standing there.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: You're like, hey, Harold.
• 18:25
  Speaker 8: Then you make another corner, and there's Jim Tobey. And
• 18:28
  Speaker 8: you're like, hey, what's going on? It's a very, very
• 18:31
  Speaker 8: unique environment here in Chicago.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the pitching here. Parker Messick will go
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: for the Guardians tonight. Hagan Smith, scheduled to start. Now,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: at times, it has looked like sheer mastery. for Will
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Venable in terms of the way that he has been
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: able to manage it the regular common question among baseball
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: fans is is continuous bullpen games is it sustainable in
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: the postseason but it looks like he's picked his spots
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: well when he's gone with one guy and then had
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: to switch to another even swapping out.
• 19:07
  Speaker 8: In the first inning yesterday Yeah, and you have leverage
• 19:11
  Speaker 8: and non-leverage in a game. And you have leverage and
• 19:13
  Speaker 8: non-leverage in a series. And a 2-0 lead in a
• 19:16
  Speaker 8: series is non-leverage. And so what you want to try
• 19:19
  Speaker 8: to do is score runs and use as many arms
• 19:22
  Speaker 8: as you can that are outside of your in-game leverage arms.
• 19:25
  Speaker 8: And so, you know, Hagen threw two-thirds of an inning yesterday.
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: He'll be the opener of the day.
• 19:30
  Speaker 8: The hopes, what I call the pathway to victory would
• 19:33
  Speaker 8: be Hagan Smith for three, Jordan Hicks, University of Houston
• 19:39
  Speaker 8: product for two, and then Grant Taylor for four or
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: five to close it out. So that's your pathway to victory.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: If things are going well.
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: But, you know, anytime you've got 13 arms on a staff.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: And you're using.
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: them a lot, there's no way they're all going to
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: be good every time they go out. You're going to
• 19:54
  Speaker 8: have you're going to have some pitfalls. And so what
• 19:56
  Speaker 8: you're hoping is that your offense can score some runs.
• 19:59
  Speaker 8: We had a couple of opportunities yesterday where we could have,
• 20:02
  Speaker 8: you know, taken the lead or gotten back into the game.
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: We played extremely poorly defensively. And so you just, you
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: flush it and you look at it like they scored nine.
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: They typically don't score nine and we got our best
• 20:13
  Speaker 8: arms going today. Our offense will be a little more,
• 20:17
  Speaker 8: you know, settled in with the crowd. And so you
• 20:20
  Speaker 8: just hope for good things to happen today.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Our MLB insider Gene Watson joining us for a few
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: more minutes here on 1300 Design. Let's jump to the
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: other series that are now in the books. Now, first
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: of all, the other in the AL. Obviously, if the
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: White Sox finish this thing up tonight or if they
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: win game five in Cleveland, it's on Thursday.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: To St.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Pete. It's on the Tropicana Field to take on the
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Rays. From day one, Gino, you said Tampa
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Bay was as good as anybody, if not the best,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: in the American League. They had the best record in
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: the American League, and it was, look, methodical and quite impressive,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I thought, what they did in sweeping out the Yankees.
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: They're just so good. They're just such a great unit together.
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: They've got so much depth. They play to the scoreboard.
• 21:04
  Speaker 8: They're very, very much like Milwaukee. They're very, very fundamentally sound.
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: They love to play with each other. They are loose
• 21:11
  Speaker 8: on the field. And, and they just, they know who
• 21:14
  Speaker 8: they are as an organization and a major league club.
• 21:16
  Speaker 8: And that's what makes them very, very dangerous is, you know,
• 21:20
  Speaker 8: they just play loose. They play to the scoreboard. They
• 21:23
  Speaker 8: bunt more than anybody. They put the game in motion
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: as well as anybody they defend well. And that's ultimately what,
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: was the demise of the New York Yankees or were
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: those little things, those little bitty fundamental issues that happened
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: in a game. And so whoever gets Tampa is going
• 21:38
  Speaker 8: to have a tough challenge. I love the fact that
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: it will be seven games instead of five, because you
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: can kind of play on your depth and pitching versus
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: their depth and pitching, but you have to do everything
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: right to beat the Tampa Bay Rays.
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: You got to play.
• 21:52
  Speaker 8: Very sound fundamental baseball. And if you get a Milwaukee
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: Tampa Bay World Series, you're getting two of the most
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: fundamentally sound baseball teams with great managers that do the,
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: it'll be old school baseball if you get those two
• 22:08
  Speaker 8: teams in the World Series.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Interesting you bring that up. Yesterday, we had Mason Montgomery,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the Pirates closer on from Leander, of course, the left-hander.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: And he had played flag football with my son, Jason.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: And Mason was talking about those two teams in almost
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: the same exact wordage that you talked about, Milwaukee and
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. I heard somebody talk about Tampa Bay as
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: being Milwaukee-lite. Now, that sounds like a Pilsner beer to me,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: but the two teams are close enough as we jump
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: to the National League, and let's start with the Brewers
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: since they're the number one overall seed, and how fundamentally
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: they were and had to be to fight off one
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: of the hottest teams in San Diego to win that series.
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and it begins and ends with their manager, Pat Murphy.
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: And they've got a bell cow starter, Jacob Mizorowski. And
• 23:00
  Speaker 8: they just do all of the little things it takes
• 23:03
  Speaker 8: to win a game. And they are, again, old school.
• 23:07
  Speaker 8: They're early 80s. baseball and they they don't apologize for
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: it and and what they did to beat san diego
• 23:14
  Speaker 8: uh in the manner which they did it just speaks
• 23:17
  Speaker 8: to how very good of a roster that is they're
• 23:20
  Speaker 8: very very versatile they're athletic you saw what tyrone taylor
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: did i mean they they can beat you a lot
• 23:26
  Speaker 8: of different ways and so uh they're gonna be good
• 23:29
  Speaker 8: i would i've said all along i would expect.
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: Them to uh.
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: Game series to games six or seven to get to
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: the world series. And if they get in, they've got
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: a chance of winning it. It's a very, you know,
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: Pat Murphy, who was at Notre Dame when I was
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: at St. Edwards, when I see him now and I
• 23:48
  Speaker 8: point at him, he knows he'll just look at me
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: and goes, worst, worst loss of my career. We actually
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: upset Notre Dame when he was there. And so I
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: have a lot of fun with him, but it's just
• 23:57
  Speaker 8: a fun baseball team to watch. And, and if it
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: does get to Tampa and Milwaukee, it's going to be
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: great for baseball because in the world of baseball versus analytics,
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: you're going to have two teams that are very good analytically,
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: very good when it comes to scouting and player development. And, and,
• 24:14
  Speaker 8: I still think the Dodgers are kind of the frontrunner
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: with the depth of that rotation.
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: But we'll see.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: It's going to be a great series.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Kevin Cash, the Tampa Bay Skippers, the longest-tenured current manager
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: in the Major Leagues, 12 years.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: The one who was second. is Dave Roberts with 11.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: And the Dodgers had to reach down for a lot
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: of inner reserve to find a way to beat that
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Braves ball club that you.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Talked about was real good as well.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I know you've talked about the Dodgers have been the
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: team to beat, but Atlanta pushed them hard. I guess
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: ultimately the pitching made a difference, I guess, for LA
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: in holding Atlanta to single runs in games three and
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: four at Truist Park.
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you keep Michael Harris down, you keep Matt Olsen down,
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: you get Dubon down, and you have a chance to win.
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: And to me, that's clearly still the separator, is the
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: depth of their rotation. And as you go into a
• 25:06
  Speaker 8: seven-game series, when you get the games five, six, and seven,
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: and you can turn over your rotation, and then if
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: you have.
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: To, what you saw with Yamamoto.
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: Last year, using starters and leverage relief situations deeper in
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: the series, That advantage is always going to go to
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: the Dodgers. I think that they're going to have to
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: defend very well because Milwaukee's going to move runners and
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: hit behind runners and play small ball a little bit better.
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: They kind of rely a little bit more on the
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: home run. Andy Pah has got the big hit for
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: him yesterday, but... But again, to me, this game is
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: always going to be about starting pitching, being the currency
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: of the game, and the Dodgers have it. And they
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: don't just have it, it's experience. And so as you
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: get into a seven-game series, that's where the advantage for
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: me swings to the Dodgers a little bit more.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Gino, is there a better game one of a post-season
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: series matchup than Jacob Mizorowski against Tarek Skubal, which we'll
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: see on Sunday?
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: It's going to be unbelievable. Runs are going to be
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: at a premium. You've got to kind of hope to
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: get both of them early. You've got to be super aggressive,
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: and you can get scuba early sometimes. And so both
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: teams are going to have to, if you lay back
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: and you let them get ahead every at-bat, you're going
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: to be in trouble.
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: You're going to have to go up and.
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: Attack some fastballs early in the count and really do
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: a really good job. Whoever can jump out two or
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: three runs early, that game's going to.
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: Have a huge advantage.
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: But that'll be the first of at least two matchups
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: like that where it's going to be super exciting for baseball.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Final thing I want to ask your opinion on, Gino,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: this came out today, that Major League Baseball, this speaks
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: to what you were talking about, about how excited you
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: would be for a seven-game series for the White Sox
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: to get in against Tampa Bay in a best-of-seven. The
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Major League Baseball latest proposal to the Players Association has
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: included changes to the postseason that would revise the regular
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: season schedule to that old school number of 154 games,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: which they had prior to 1961. And then a new
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: postseason structure that would allow the highest seeds in both
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: the wild card and division rounds to select their opponents
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: and the expansion of the division series from a best
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: of five to a best of seven.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
• 27:34
  Speaker 9: I love it.
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: I think it's great.
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: I think it would add a lot of drama to
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: the series because in baseball, any team can beat any
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: other team any given day. And the one thing that
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: it would do is the teams that have to really,
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: really battle and use their pitching going into the first
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: round of the playoffs where you might look at it
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: on paper and go, well, wait a minute. Their first
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: two starters are better than our first two. We're going
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: to stay away from them.
• 28:01
  Speaker 10: But if they have to use them, and they're not.
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: Going to be available in game one or two, you
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: might take on a matchup that you wouldn't normally take
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: because of the way the pitching lines up. And so
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: I think it'd be fascinating. I don't love, you know,
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: how the matchups went this year. You know, we're playing Cleveland,
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: who we played a lot. The Tampa Yankee series is
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: unfortunate that that wasn't a seven-game series. But I do
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: think it would add a lot of a storyline and
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: interesting flavor to the playoffs if they do that.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: You weren't. just now speeding, were you, Geno?
• 28:36
  Speaker 11: No, no, we're in Wrigleyville.
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: We're about to get on the bus and head to Rayfield,
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: so it's a little chaotic around here.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Hey, listen, best of luck to your ball club tonight.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: We'll talk again next week. Regardless, hopefully we're talking about
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: your ball club against Tampa Bay and Dodgers Brewers as
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: well in the National League.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I appreciate the time, and enjoy it tonight, Geno.
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: Hey, need you to take care of business at the
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: Cotton Bowl Saturday. Hook them.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: That's on the list. Hook them.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Thank you. That's Gene Watson, our MLB insider. Coming up,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: speaking of the Cotton Bowl, State Fair Food Time. That's
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: our inconceivable on Texas OU Week. That's next on 13
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Under the Zone.
• 29:18
  Speaker 11: Down the 1-2 pitch. Swung on.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Banged inside the bag at first.
• 29:24
  Speaker 11: Down the right field line to hit it toward the corner.
• 29:27
  Speaker 11: Kwon scores. Ramirez scores. De Lauder scores. Zedell on his
• 29:31
  Speaker 11: way to third. He'll throw the hit first slide. It's
• 29:34
  Speaker 11: a triple. His second triple in the series. And the
• 29:40
  Speaker 11: Guardians with a four-run third. Joe Adele shot it the
• 29:46
  Speaker 11: other way. Inside the bag at first. Down into that
• 29:51
  Speaker 11: right field corner. What a piece of hitting. And Cleveland
• 29:56
  Speaker 11: gets its biggest hit of the postseason here in 2026
• 30:01
  Speaker 11: and lead it 4-1. The White Sox will have to
• 30:06
  Speaker 11: try again tomorrow.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: The Guardians survive.
• 30:12
  Speaker 11: And force a game four tomorrow night.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: The 3-2.
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: Pahez, ground ball, base hit, left center field. Teoscar Hernandez scores.
• 30:22
  Speaker 10: Edmond behind him.
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: Andy Pahez breaks the tie with a clutch hit here
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: in the seventh.
• 30:29
  Speaker 10: Well, that's the hit that we were talking about. Maybe
• 30:31
  Speaker 10: one hit makes the difference. And I mentioned in the ballgame,
• 30:34
  Speaker 10: but Andy Pahez, the way he was swinging the bat,
• 30:37
  Speaker 10: he's got the confidence. A couple of hits in last night,
• 30:40
  Speaker 10: and you mentioned both of the baseballs that he hit
• 30:42
  Speaker 10: tonight before.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: That event were hit hard.
• 30:45
  Speaker 10: Moved to count three and two, got a fastball, and
• 30:48
  Speaker 10: actually hit a knuckleball into the outfield.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: They're a strike away.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: The pitch.
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: Fly ball right field. Tucker drifts over. Makes the call
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: and the catch. That's a division series win for L.A.
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: The Los Angeles Dodgers eliminate the Atlanta Braves in four
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: games to move on to the NLCS.
• 31:13
  Speaker 9: Mesa high fly ball deep in the right center.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: This is way back and goodbye.
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: Victor Mesa Jr.
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: A bomb into right center field. The Tampa Bay Rays
• 31:30
  Speaker 9: have snatched back the lead.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Chisholm takes off and a swing and a miss.
• 31:37
  Speaker 9: Baker strikes out Trent Gresham and the Tampa Bay Rays
• 31:43
  Speaker 9: are moving on.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: They sweep the Yankees.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Here it is.
• 31:50
  Speaker 10: Fly ball center field.
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: Back is Mitchell at the warning track at the wall.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: And he jumps and makes the catch.
• 31:58
  Speaker 9: He took a home run away from Manny Machado. And
• 32:01
  Speaker 9: the Brewers stay in front by two. It's a short
• 32:05
  Speaker 9: wall out there and straightaway center field.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Gary Mitchell got back there.
• 32:09
  Speaker 11: A little bunny hop.
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: But that ball, if he doesn't catch it, it gets
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: out and we're tied.
• 32:15
  Speaker 11: Garrett Mitchell, who has been responsible for two of the
• 32:18
  Speaker 11: three runs on offense, just took two runs off the board.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Into his stretch. Here's the 2-2. Struck him out, swinging
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: with a curveball.
• 32:27
  Speaker 9: The Brewers are headed to the NLCS for a second
• 32:30
  Speaker 9: straight year. They've got another date with.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: The Los Angeles Dodgers.
• 32:35
  Speaker 9: A 3-1 final score, and the.
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: Brewers say goodnight to the San Diego Padres.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: So there it is.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Baseball gets caught up. American League Division Series that is
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: still yet to be decided. The Chicago White Sox and
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Cleveland Guardians after the Guardians won 9-3 Game 3 yesterday.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: So Game 4 tonight at 7 o'clock. That's the only
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Division Series. left to be contested. The Tampa Bay Rays
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: swept out the New York Yankees. Brian Anderson on the
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: call on that one, on the Victor Mesa Jr. home run.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Tom Hamilton, right, calling the Cleveland highlights. The Guardians!
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cleveland!
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: And then Stephen Nelson on Dodgers radio with a call
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: along with the great Rick Monday on LA's 4-1 win
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: over The Atlanta Brace to win that series three games
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: to one. And Jeff Levering on the call for the
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewers last night, finishing off the San Diego Padres.
• 33:35
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• 33:36
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• 33:45
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• 33:49
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  Speaker 2: Coverage beginning at 6 to kick off at 7 o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: Here on The Zone at 7 is Longhorn Weekly with
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  Speaker 1: Coach Sark tonight at 7 o'clock. Special guest Lamar Houston was.
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  Speaker 2: Such a big factor.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we were talking about CB's favorite memories that
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  Speaker 1: he mentioned three games.
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  Speaker 2: I can give you a couple other ones.
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  Speaker 1: 08 and 09. 08 was very special. The one where
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma came in number one and Texas was number five.
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  Speaker 1: Sooners built a 14-3 lead. And then Jordan Shipley changed
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  Speaker 1: everything with the 95-yard kickoff return. Longhorns outscored Oklahoma in
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  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, 15-0. They won that game 45-35. Lamar Houston,
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  Speaker 1: a big part of that. And then Lamar the next
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  Speaker 1: year when the Longhorns went in, it was a real grinder.
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  Speaker 1: It was a rock fight. Texas won 16-13 there in
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  Speaker 1: that one. That was in 2009. So there was those
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  Speaker 1: as well. As always, we open up. The text lines
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  Speaker 1: for you, we heard from CB, where you can reach
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  Speaker 1: us on that text line by texting the word Texas,
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  Speaker 1: followed by your question or comment to 81530. Standard messaging
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  Speaker 1: and data rates may apply. And then our man Greg
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  Speaker 1: Powell said, I've been to two Texas-Oklahoma games. How about
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  Speaker 1: 1976 and the 6-6 tie? Darrell Royals' final game, Texas-OU game.
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  Speaker 2: As head coach.
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  Speaker 1: It's when Barry Switzer, who at the time denied it,
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  Speaker 1: later admitted it. They had guys spying on the Texas practices.
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  Speaker 1: And the words that Coach Royal used to describe them were,
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  Speaker 1: and I quote, sorry bastards was the way he described them.
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  Speaker 1: That wound up being a 6-6 tie. Said he was
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  Speaker 1: booed soundly by Oklahoma because of the spying scandal. Yeah, well, again,
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  Speaker 1: Barry Switzer years later said, yeah, we did.
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  Speaker 2: We did.
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  Speaker 1: At the time, he denied it. 09, Colt against Bradford.
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  Speaker 1: And again, that was another one of the... That was
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  Speaker 1: the rock fight game, the 16-13 game. I say rock fight.
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  Speaker 1: It was just a hard slugfest kind of game. It
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  Speaker 1: was something else. Let's hear from Longhorn's head coach, Steve Sarkeesian.
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  Speaker 1: And we'll hear from Sark talking about getting ready for
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  Speaker 1: this matchup and talking about really.
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  Speaker 1: The pride his team has taken in holding opponents out
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  Speaker 1: of the end zone in the recent Texas OU games.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I think that's the goal, right? Defensively,
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  Speaker 6: your job is to protect your end zone and not
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  Speaker 6: let them score. And on top of that, man, you
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  Speaker 6: want to stop the run. You want to defend the pass.
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  Speaker 6: You want to affect the quarterback. You want to create turnovers.
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  Speaker 6: All those things add up to that. But I think
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  Speaker 6: ultimately the goal is to keep them out of the
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  Speaker 6: end zone. And people are going to hit plays. And
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  Speaker 6: then when you get into the red area, how do
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  Speaker 6: you play great red zone defense? And to keep them
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  Speaker 6: out of the end zone and force field goals or
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  Speaker 6: fourth down tries. And our guys take a lot of
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  Speaker 6: pride in that. That starts at the top with Coach Muschamp.
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  Speaker 6: And then it bleeds itself into the assistant coaches and
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  Speaker 6: then the leaders on that defense and then everybody else
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  Speaker 6: kind of follows suit. So, you know, again, great defenses
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  Speaker 6: take pride in that and ours is no different.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Next up, Sarg asked, and this is from the media
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  Speaker 1: zoom this morning, his final statement. local and even national,
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  Speaker 1: those who are on the Zoom, media opportunity to visit
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  Speaker 1: with him prior to when he does the one-on-one with me,
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  Speaker 1: about an hour and 45 minutes prior to kick. And then,
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  Speaker 1: of course, we have that as part of our pregame.
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  Speaker 1: It's the last thing to happen before the game starts.
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  Speaker 1: So we recorded about an hour and 45 minutes out.
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  Speaker 1: And then after we record the interview, we run it
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  Speaker 1: during our pregame right before kickoff. But with all the
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  Speaker 1: other media, the last media available opportunity is this media
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  Speaker 1: Zoom that he does on Thursday morning. So that's what
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  Speaker 1: this is from. He was asked about the tight end room.
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  Speaker 1: Is he happy with the production? Does he want to
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  Speaker 1: see a little more out of it?
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  Speaker 6: I think that we've got a really versatile room. When
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  Speaker 6: you talk about Spencer and Michael to go along with
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  Speaker 6: Nick and Amari, And the combinations, the different combinations that
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  Speaker 6: we can put out there to run and do different things.
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  Speaker 6: And so I think all those guys... maybe lacked a
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  Speaker 6: little experience, especially playing for us from Michael's perspective. But
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  Speaker 6: I'm watching these guys grow and improve and get better.
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  Speaker 6: And they're not perfect, like nobody on offense is right now.
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  Speaker 6: Nobody on our team is. But I think they're working
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  Speaker 6: at their craft. And to your point, there's a lot
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  Speaker 6: of versatility. And it's not always– I think production, we
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  Speaker 6: always want to think, did the ball get thrown to them?
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  Speaker 6: But are they pass-protecting? Are they run-blocking? Are they shifting
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  Speaker 6: and moving in a way where we can gain advantages
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  Speaker 6: and doing the things that we need to do? And
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  Speaker 6: do they understand why we're doing it? So it's a
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  Speaker 6: good room that I think is improving.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, he was asked, and this is as a follow-up
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  Speaker 1: to what he was talking about on Monday about trying
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  Speaker 1: to get the running game re-engaged. They'll get Hollywood Smothers back,
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  Speaker 1: but they didn't run the ball the way they wanted.
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  Speaker 2: To in the win against Tennessee.
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  Speaker 1: So he was asked, how much has he challenged his
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  Speaker 1: team to run the football better.
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  Speaker 6: We're always trying to run the ball. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 6: no different. And this game obviously carries that weight. We
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  Speaker 6: know the value of running the football. And so then
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  Speaker 6: we to find a way to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Also was asked. About the rivalry. Between Texas and Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 1: He congratulated Mack Brown. It was announced yesterday. Mack is
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  Speaker 1: going to be part of the 2027 class. of the
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  Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl Hall of Fame. You think about when Mack's
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  Speaker 1: first Cotton Bowl, Ricky Williams, the Heisman year, they beat
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  Speaker 1: Mississippi State. They did lose to Arkansas in the Y2K
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  Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl when Major Appwhite tore his ACL in that game.
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  Speaker 1: Came back in the Cotton Bowl in 2002, January 2003.
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  Speaker 1: Final game for Chris Sims and Roy Williams, no, not Roy,
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  Speaker 1: but Chris and a couple other guys. And the Longhorns
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  Speaker 1: beat an LSU team coached by Nick Saban, beat them 35-20.
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  Speaker 1: So Mack named the Cotton Bowl Hall of Fame, but
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  Speaker 1: of course coached Longhorns to wins in the matchup against Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 1: So Sark was asked, has he and Coach Brown shared
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  Speaker 1: some memories and experiences about this matchup?
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  Speaker 6: I talked to coach Brown quite a bit about a
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  Speaker 6: lot of different things, honestly, you know, and he's been,
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  Speaker 6: he's coached in so many big games and throughout his
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  Speaker 6: career and just kind of the mindset of the team.
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  Speaker 6: And one thing that, that he kind of passed down
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  Speaker 6: for me to me from actually from coach Royal was
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  Speaker 6: just about, you don't want to peak too soon during
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  Speaker 6: the week when you're getting ready to play rivalry games
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  Speaker 6: because of the, the emotion that that is required in
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  Speaker 6: the game. And so we try to, kind of build
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  Speaker 6: towards Saturday and not play the game on Tuesday or Wednesday.
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  Speaker 6: We try to play the game on Saturday. So I
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  Speaker 6: did take that to heart. And he told me that
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  Speaker 6: actually a few weeks ago and definitely took that to
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  Speaker 6: heart this week as we were building towards this game
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  Speaker 6: of like incremental growth, incremental progress, incremental levels of intensity
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  Speaker 6: to make sure that our intensity and our executions at
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  Speaker 6: a real high come Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Matt told that story a few weeks ago, Longhorn Weekly,
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  Speaker 1: where they had a great Tuesday practice. And you'll hear
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  Speaker 1: Sark talk about a little more in the next segment
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  Speaker 1: coming up of the OU week. And Mack felt really,
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  Speaker 1: really good about that and walked off, said to Coach Royal,
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  Speaker 1: who's there standing there at practice, this was 2000, and said,
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  Speaker 1: I feel really, really good. He said to Coach Royal, said, careful, boy,
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  Speaker 1: you might've just played the game today. And Oklahoma won
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  Speaker 1: the game on Saturday, 63 to 14. Quinn Griffin scored
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  Speaker 1: six touchdowns in that game. He said, hard lesson, to
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  Speaker 1: learn to net. So that's kind of what Sark was
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  Speaker 1: referring to there. Oklahoma's two and two, but Sark describes
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  Speaker 1: them like the old wounded tiger thing about being dangerous.
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  Speaker 6: We've been on the other side of that too. And
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  Speaker 6: we know how we've played when we were in that situation.
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  Speaker 6: So it was, it's I don't want to say it's
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  Speaker 6: easy to get our players attention with it, but easier
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  Speaker 6: than maybe other weeks when we can say, Hey, a
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  Speaker 6: year ago, we were in the same position coming out
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  Speaker 6: of the Florida game. And how did we play? And
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  Speaker 6: so we know we're going to get OU's best shot.
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  Speaker 6: And they're a really good team. They're a very talented team.
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  Speaker 6: And they've got good coaches. Sometimes things don't go your way.
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  Speaker 6: And you just don't quite get the momentum that you need.
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  Speaker 6: And hopefully they don't figure it out Saturday either. Hopefully
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  Speaker 6: we can cause a little more chaos for them. But
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  Speaker 6: I know we're going to get their best shot. And
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  Speaker 6: I know they're going to have a great plan. I
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  Speaker 6: know their kids are going to play hard. and physical
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  Speaker 6: and tough because that's what that program is built on.
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  Speaker 6: And so we know it's going to be a four-quarter game.
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  Speaker 6: Rivalry games generally go that way. And we know we're
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  Speaker 6: going to need to play good football if we want
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  Speaker 6: to come out on top. Okay.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 2: A couple other things from Sark this hour.
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  Speaker 1: And also, like I said, coming up, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: hear a little sneak preview of tonight's edition of Longhorn
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  Speaker 1: Weekly with Coach Sark.
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  Speaker 2: He was asked if he.
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  Speaker 1: Reminds his players of these close contests that they've had
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  Speaker 1: NSEC conference games?
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  Speaker 6: I never assume anything with our guys. You never know.
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  Speaker 6: So I always remind them of things. Some things I
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  Speaker 6: harp on a little bit more. There's some things I
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  Speaker 6: don't belabor the point. We talked about it on Monday
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  Speaker 6: about you know, the games that, you know, we really
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  Speaker 6: challenged everybody to watch football last weekend. And we talked
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  Speaker 6: about the Florida-Missouri game. We talked about the Kentucky-South Carolina game.
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  Speaker 6: You know, we talked about this game in particular in
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  Speaker 6: years past. But again, I don't, I didn't belabor that
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  Speaker 6: point because the majority of them watched it. A lot
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  Speaker 6: of them saw it. I got text messages about it
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  Speaker 6: from our guys. And so, Point being, it's an acknowledgement
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  Speaker 6: of it, but then it's okay, what are we gonna do, right?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, there's only so much talk, then it's about
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  Speaker 6: what are you gonna do? And the best thing you
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  Speaker 6: can do is prepare really well. And that's in meetings,
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  Speaker 6: that's in walkthroughs, that's in practice, that's in your recovery,
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  Speaker 6: that's in your sleep, that's in your hydration, that's all
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  Speaker 6: the things. And like I said, I think we've had
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  Speaker 6: a good week of that so far.
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  Speaker 1: All right, and then one other thing, and this is
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  Speaker 1: as a follow-up to the SEC Student Athlete Availability Report,
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  Speaker 1: that was released, the initial report, last night. Oklahoma has
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  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of guys in various stages. For example,
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  Speaker 1: four players out, including wide receiver Terrell Harris, three players doubtful,
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  Speaker 1: including their outstanding anchor of the offensive line, Michael Fasusi,
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  Speaker 1: five players listed as questionable, and one guy's probable. For
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  Speaker 1: the Longhorns, one guy out, Jordan Coleman, backup offensive lineman,
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  Speaker 1: Two doubtful, wide receiver Khalid Lockett and defensive lineman Justice Terry.
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  Speaker 2: And then one.
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  Speaker 1: Guy listed as probable, and that is Nick Townsend trying
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  Speaker 1: to bounce his way back. So Sark was asked, how
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  Speaker 1: much credit goes to the training staff for having, by comparison,
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  Speaker 1: a somewhat light injury report?
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  Speaker 6: First of all, credit to the University of Texas and
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  Speaker 6: our administration and Chris Del Conte for providing us with
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  Speaker 6: the resources to keep our players healthy and to keep
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  Speaker 6: them fresh and to get them, you know, rehabbed and recovered, um,
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  Speaker 6: whether they're injured or whether they're just banged up as
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  Speaker 6: the season goes on. But, but also a ton of
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  Speaker 6: credit to Donna Wynn in the training room, Alan Harden, uh,
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  Speaker 6: and Dr. Bray, um, Tori Becton, uh, the strength and conditioning.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, those guys exhaust themselves, um, in, in getting
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  Speaker 6: our players back ready to perform. Um, and, but like
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  Speaker 6: I said, you know, a bi-week helps, um, and then,
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  Speaker 6: and then managing practice and managing our numbers. And I
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  Speaker 6: believe in science. And so we get real numbers on
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  Speaker 6: players and volume and running and hitting and different things and,
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  Speaker 6: and managing our players in a way of understanding that
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  Speaker 6: this is a long season, you know, it's going to
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  Speaker 6: end up being hopefully a six month season. And so
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  Speaker 6: it's not just about one week or two weeks. It's
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  Speaker 6: about the totality of it all. Um, So adding all
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  Speaker 6: that up and putting all those ingredients into the pot,
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  Speaker 6: I think that we've got a pretty good formula for
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  Speaker 6: success of keeping our players healthy or getting them back
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  Speaker 6: healthy when they do get injured. Injuries do occur. It's football.
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  Speaker 6: That's just the nature of the sport. The goal is
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  Speaker 6: to get our guys back as quickly as possible if
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  Speaker 6: they do get nicked up.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we'll have more from the media zoom coming up
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  Speaker 1: next hour. But up next, We'll sneak preview of tonight's
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  Speaker 1: edition of Longhorn Weekly with Coach Sark.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about this matchup with Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 1: albums that Fleetwood Mac released in 76 and 77, mega
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  Speaker 1: platinum sales and multiple hit songs. This was one of the,
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  Speaker 1: I think, one of the more underrated numbers. by Fleetwood Mac.
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought up the year because that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: made me think of it talking about the 76 Red
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  Speaker 3: River rivalry.
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  Speaker 2: 6-6 tie.
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  Speaker 1: What was it? The comment we got about it said, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: hold them back, huh, right?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Not sugarcoating. Craig said, don't sugarcoat it, Craig.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 1: That's what Coach Royal called them. Smurfy bastards. After the
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  Speaker 1: spying scandal and they went up in the 6-6 tie.
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  Speaker 1: That was Coach Royal's final season. After that game, he
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  Speaker 1: had been so wrought up and things mounting, he said
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  Speaker 1: he was actually physically ill in the locker room afterwards.
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  Speaker 2: They came away with a tie.
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  Speaker 1: And the other tie that comes to mind for me
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  Speaker 1: is 1995. John McAfee was the coach, and they got
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  Speaker 1: up to a 21-0 lead, Texas, and they wound up
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  Speaker 1: in a 24-24 tie. Howard Schnellenberger was the head coach.
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  Speaker 1: Play football for Sooner Nation.
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  Speaker 4: Sam Elliott?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was kind of. And he went 5-5-1, and
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  Speaker 2: then he was out.
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  Speaker 1: And that was the last time that both Texas and
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma had a tie game, not only against each other,
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  Speaker 1: but period.
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  Speaker 2: Because the next year, overtime came in.
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  Speaker 1: And that's when Oklahoma won the first game that went
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  Speaker 1: overtime between the two, 30-27. And that's when the overtime
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  Speaker 1: rule was so new The Longhorns won the toss. It
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  Speaker 1: was their first ever overtime game of any kind. So
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  Speaker 1: people hadn't figured out the strategy. Texas chose to take
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  Speaker 1: the ball there in overtime. They wound up settling for
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  Speaker 1: a Phil Dawson field goal. Oklahoma got the ball. James
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  Speaker 1: Allen scores the game-winning touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: They win 30-27.
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  Speaker 1: That was two years after Allen was the one who
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  Speaker 1: was stopped at the goal line by Stoney Clark to
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  Speaker 1: end the 94 game. So these kinds of games and
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  Speaker 1: other ones in the Texas OU Red River rivalry were
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  Speaker 1: all a part of our conversation. A little sneak preview
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  Speaker 1: of tonight's Longhorn Weekly with Coach Sarton. The Texas Longhorns
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  Speaker 1: go back to work. Not that they weren't working during
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  Speaker 1: the open day. We just didn't have a game last week.
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  Speaker 1: But coming out of the bye, getting ready for the
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma Sooners in the 122nd edition of the Red River Rivalry.
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  Speaker 2: At the Cotton Bowl in Dallas.
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  Speaker 1: And you've spoken quite eloquently this week about what this
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  Speaker 1: game is. means to you even in your short time
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  Speaker 1: at Texas and how you see it in the big
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  Speaker 1: picture of college football.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, when you look at it in the grand scheme
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  Speaker 6: of things, this is my sixth one this Saturday of 122.
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  Speaker 6: So six feels like a lot, you know, to some
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  Speaker 6: degree until you put it in comparison to 122 times
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  Speaker 6: these two teams have played. And so Now, when I
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  Speaker 6: assess it, when I look at it every year, I'm like, man,
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  Speaker 6: I'm so humbled to be part of it. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: you think about the great players and the great teams
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  Speaker 6: on both sides, you know, not just Texas, OU as well,
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  Speaker 6: the coaches, the players, the teams. The fact that it's
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  Speaker 6: at the Texas State Fair, it's at the old Cotton Bowl,
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  Speaker 6: you know, as we all know, the way the stands
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  Speaker 6: are split at the 50-yard line. There's other neutral site games,
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  Speaker 6: but the fans are always split, you know, behind each bench.
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  Speaker 6: at the 50 yard line. Um, I learned the hard way,
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  Speaker 6: you know, when you're in OU's end of the field,
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  Speaker 6: our first year, it's like a road game and you
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  Speaker 6: can't hear, and you better know how to operate with
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  Speaker 6: crowd noise. And then at the other end, it's like
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  Speaker 6: a home game. Uh, and so how do you keep
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  Speaker 6: them down in your end of the field? But, uh,
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  Speaker 6: the tunnel, the locker rooms, the whole thing. And it's, uh,
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  Speaker 6: it's a very, very special game. And it's, I know
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  Speaker 6: it means a lot here on the 40 acres. I
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  Speaker 6: know it means a lot for OU, but this game
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  Speaker 6: is special. for college football. And, you know, I've said
• 51:03
  Speaker 6: all I was saying earlier today, like growing up in California, um,
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: you know, 9.00 AM was when you woke up because 11.00 AM,
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: this ball was getting kicked off central time and it
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: was the only game on, and this is what you watched.
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: I mean, this was iconic uniforms, battling, competing, great players,
• 51:23
  Speaker 6: great teams. And so, um, I admired this game from afar, obviously.
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: Now being immersed in it in year six, it's never
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: been more special to me. So we're very fortunate.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: I think the other thing, and it's been pointed out,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: depending on exactly where you live or whatever, it's almost
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: exactly equidistant. It's like 196 miles from Norman, 204 from
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Austin or something right in that area as well. And
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: the fans split up, as you pointed out. I know
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: it doesn't change anything. how you prepare your team to
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: play a game, but in terms of the atmosphere, and
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: I know you were asked about this, I think, uh,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: on the SEC teleconference, does it change balancing the excitement
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: of the game and the atmosphere with locking in and
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: the focus that, that your team needs to play the game?
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: Well, I, I think one, you have to acknowledge what
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: the game is. You got to start there. And, and, and,
• 52:17
  Speaker 6: and clearly we do that. And, and, um, But then
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: we try to get back to recalibrating to, okay, we
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: all want to win Saturday, right? Raise your hand.
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: Okay. Here's what we need to do. We need to
• 52:30
  Speaker 6: take it. You know, today's the most important day. We've
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: got to try to win today. How do we win today?
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: We have really good meetings, right? You have really good walkthroughs.
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: You have a really good practice. You come back in
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: the afternoon and you watch a tape with your coach
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: and you make the proper adjustments and changes and fix
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: the things that need to be fixed. You come back
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: the next morning. Have a really good workout with Coach
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: Becton in.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: The weight room.
• 52:51
  Speaker 6: Like that's how you have to do it. Understanding as
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: a coach, knowing the closer we get to the game,
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: the adrenaline starts to rise, right? And so on Monday,
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: maybe the adrenaline, you know, I don't need them to
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: peak on Monday. I need them focused on what we
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: need to do. Understanding as we get closer to the game,
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: that adrenaline is going to start to rise the morning
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: of the game, so on and so forth. And then
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: how do I get them into a space on game day?
• 53:18
  Speaker 6: to have the right mental intensity, the right focus, okay,
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: so that they can be clear-minded to execute all the
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: things we did Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, all the
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: while having emotion but not getting emotional in the moment,
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: which we've seen in this game. Emotions can run high,
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: and we've seen it for years and years and years.
• 53:38
  Speaker 6: And so that's always the challenge, right, of how do
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: you do that in games like this, this game in particular.
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: I always think that those are the teams that perform
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: best in those moments. And so that's what we try
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: to do. I said last year we did a really
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: poor job of that on offense in the first quarter.
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: I don't know if you remember that first quarter. We
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: were going backwards and all sorts of stuff was going on.
• 53:59
  Speaker 6: But then we settled in and played a really good
• 54:01
  Speaker 6: second half. So the sooner we can settle them in
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: and play all three phases and execute the plan, the
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: better off we'll be.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: We had Matt Brown here with us a few weeks back,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: and he was talking about how they had this fabulous practice.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: On a Tuesday. And he said it was so exciting.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: It was OU week.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: And Coach Roy was there watching and said, to use
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Mac's quote, better be careful, boy. You might have just
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: played the game there. And he said he learned from that.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: And Oklahoma won big that day at the end.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Of that week. Do you have to do an actual
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: dialing back?
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Vocality to your guys about don't play the game now
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: let's work on the things that we need to work
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: on because I know going into the bye week there
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: were things you wanted to address with the team and
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: have them.
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: Improve yeah you know I think naturally um the bye
• 54:52
  Speaker 6: week was the bye week and and we did we
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: we we were striving for improvement from guys that are
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: playing a lot of football we were pushing for improvement
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: for guys that we were trying to get onto the
• 55:02
  Speaker 6: field and we were pushing for development from some from
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: other players that we feel like can step up at
• 55:07
  Speaker 6: some point And so the bye week was the bye week.
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: This week came back. I said this in the press
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: conference on Monday. OU or whomever else, I'm not a
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: big rah-rah speech guy on a Monday because I think
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: teams can peak too soon during a week. Now, Thursday, Friday,
• 55:27
  Speaker 6: Saturday in the locker room, yeah, those speeches start to
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: come out. But Monday, Monday, really Monday through Wednesday, even
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: into Thursday, I'm about business. You know, I'm about, here's
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: what we need to do. Here's how we're going to
• 55:39
  Speaker 6: do it. And we coach that way. It's not about
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: them per se. It's about us. What do we need
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: to do? How do we stay enamored with us? How
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: do we hold each other accountable that we're doing the
• 55:49
  Speaker 6: things necessary to put ourselves in position to have success?
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: Are we after practice? Are we doing recovery? Or are
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: we reading Twitter to see what everybody's saying about the game?
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: It's like, Where's our focus? Where are we intentional in
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: preparing ourselves to perform come Saturday? And then as the
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: closer we get, like I said, like, you know, that's
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: my job as a coach is to make sure that
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: our temperature is right when that ball is getting kicked off.
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: And so you have to build towards it. I don't
• 56:17
  Speaker 6: want to sleepwalk through the ball game, but I also
• 56:20
  Speaker 6: know the importance of execution. And I feel like we
• 56:23
  Speaker 6: have done a pretty good job through the first five
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: years in this game. I know we haven't won it
• 56:27
  Speaker 6: every time. but we have played pretty well in this game,
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: excluding probably one where we had the three turnovers. I
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: think that was in 23?
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: We lose the turnover battle 3-0. We have almost 600
• 56:40
  Speaker 6: yards of offense and we throw the Hail Mary at
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: the end of the game. So outside of that, we've
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: played pretty good. We were a little outgunned, I think,
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: in year one, but we played pretty good knowing how
• 56:51
  Speaker 6: good that OU team was, and it was kind of
• 56:54
  Speaker 6: the birth of Caleb Williams. We've played pretty good. We've
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: played pretty good on defense. We've ran the ball pretty well.
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: We've protected the ball pretty well because those are kind
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: of the prerequisites to playing good football in any game,
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: regardless of rivalry game, neutral site game, so on and
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: so forth. But it is surely a lot of fun.
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: I will say that. And again, I say that to
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: the guys, whether we're playing at DKR or another stadium
• 57:18
  Speaker 6: or in this game, I always want them to enjoy
• 57:20
  Speaker 6: the experience. I want to make sure they take a
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: moment to take it all in But then I want
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: them to play really good because I know that that's
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: what they want to do. And so how do I
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: get them in position to play good football?
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: How would you describe the bye week and the work
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: that went in? Because you, coming out of the Tennessee game,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: had the Monday press conference and said there are definite
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: pinpointed areas that we want to be better at, that
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: we've got to be better at going forward. How would
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: you describe the week of work that went into that
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: open day week?
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: Well, I thought it was good in essence of we
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: identified some issues that we were having of what was
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: a constant theme of what we were seeing from opponents.
• 57:59
  Speaker 6: So you can address that, right? It's like, hey, we're
• 58:02
  Speaker 6: getting this same defense multiple times a game for a
• 58:05
  Speaker 6: few games now. Let's make sure we understand it. One, schematically. Two,
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: fundamentally how we're blocking it or how we're running routes
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: or how we're reading coverages, so on and so forth.
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: So I thought that was good.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Two.
• 58:18
  Speaker 6: The development of our younger players. I thought they got
• 58:21
  Speaker 6: a lot of really good work, a lot of competitive
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: work in settings, and we made it as game-like as
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: we could. Three, I thought individual players of areas where
• 58:30
  Speaker 6: we wanted them to improve their game, right? Were we
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: doing that? Were they working on the subtleties of their game?
• 58:36
  Speaker 6: And whether it's from a Ryan Wingo to an Arch
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: Manning to a Dylan Sikorski, right, to a a Kobe Black,
• 58:43
  Speaker 6: you know, a Cade Phillips, like all these guys. And
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: then the fourth was getting healthy, right? We played four
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: pretty physical games, especially the last three that we had played.
• 58:54
  Speaker 6: And you're always going to have bumps and bruises. We
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: had a few things that were beyond bumps and bruises.
• 58:59
  Speaker 6: So to get some of those guys back and healthy
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: has been great for us. I feel like, you know,
• 59:05
  Speaker 6: knock on wood, like we're about as healthy as you
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: can expect to be going in game number five. You're
• 59:11
  Speaker 6: always going to have some guys that are, that are
• 59:12
  Speaker 6: binged up and can't play, but at this level of play,
• 59:16
  Speaker 6: you know, to be about as healthy where we are,
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: that's a good sign. So I thought the bye week
• 59:22
  Speaker 6: was great from, from a team perspective. I thought it
• 59:24
  Speaker 6: gave him a chance to kind of take a deep
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: breath you know when you play a high level of
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: game like Ohio State was when your SEC openers on
• 59:33
  Speaker 6: the road at Neyland Stadium in that environment that can
• 59:35
  Speaker 6: take a lot of emotional energy out of you so
• 59:38
  Speaker 6: I think to kind of recharge that battery knowing what
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: was coming this week as well as what's going to
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: come down the road I thought that was effective.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: For us as well all right we're going to hear
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: more uh from Sark another little sneak preview snippet coming
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: up next hour that's That is from tonight's edition of
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Longhorn Weekly.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: It comes your way at 7 o'clock.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Our special guest will be Lamar Houston, who was a
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: big part of those Texas back-to-back wins in 08 and 09.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: What an impressive guy he is.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Was when he played at Texas, played eight years in
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: the NFL, and has now gone into the high-tech and
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: entrepreneurship world.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: And has done a tremendous job. So we'll visit with him.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Tonight on the show, again, at 7 o'clock here on
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: The Zone. We'll have another excerpt from that show coming
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: up next hour. Up next, we hear from Jerry Jones
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: on the eve of Cowboys and Tampa Bay, which is tonight,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: which you get a year on 98.1 FM KVET, beginning
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: coverage beginning at 6 and the kickoff at 7. But
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: we're from Jerry next right here on 1300 The Zone.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: The Cowboys are back in the saddle tonight as they
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: get ready to take on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Jerry Jones,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: never a dull moment with him, right? When he does
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: his weekly radio thing on 105.3 The Fan of Doubt.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: They moved it back from Tuesday to Wednesday this week.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: But Jerry was asked, did he expect to see what
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: he ended up seeing from Joey Porter Jr.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: In his debut?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: Yes, more. I didn't expect him to be out there
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: materially Sunday. Although we were talking about having those many snaps,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: he really gave a good accounting of what he was doing,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: how he was doing it. It shows me, shows us,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: that as he works into knowledge and the coordination that
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: it takes to play back there, that he's got a
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: real spot that will help us. His physical abilities... will
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: serve us. They just don't go there because they know
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: what he's capable of, and he's basically got him covered
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: out there. Now, he will get tested. He's not Deion
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: Sanders out there where they just don't go there. He
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: will get tested, but I was real pleased with what
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: we got out of him Sunday.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: There's that.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: That is going to beg the question. Is he planning
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: to have some contract extension talks, not only with Joey
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Porter Jr., but also with George Pickens? Would that happen
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: while this season is going on?
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: We don't even have to in any way. We've got
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: great agreements, and the agreements are in place so that
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: I don't even have to talk about a question like that.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: And I'm not at all deterred by the question, but
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: we've got that put to bed. in terms of their business,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: one way or the other. Now, I wouldn't answer as
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: to whether or not we visit about any of their
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: business during the season other than how they're playing or
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: how they're going to play.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: So there's some more from... Jerry Jones, and obviously we'll
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: keep folks updated on that. And again, the game is tonight.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: You'll hear it here on 1300 The Zone. It will come, no,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: you will hear it on 98.1 FM KVET. You'll hear
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Longhorn Weekly with Coach Sark here on The Zone at
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: seven o'clock. Longhorn Weekly here on this station, Cowboys Bucks
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: on 98.1 FM KVET.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: All right, when we come back.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: We'll tell you about a couple of the other college
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: football matchups and how God might be interfering with those
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: when we continue on 1300 The Zone. Third and final
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: hour of the program here on Sports Radio AM 1300
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: The Zone.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Glad to be with you here on this Thursday.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: Before we head north, at least a lot of us anyway,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Jake will stay comfortably ensconced here before he also spins
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: off to do Bastrop versus Crockett tomorrow night, correct?
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: District opener.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: And then a rare open date Saturday for me.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: How about that?
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: So Texas OU, tomorrow the Red River Rivalry matchup. And
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: we've got a special preview of the weekend. How about this?
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: Four R's.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: Red River Rivalry Roundtable. So.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: Rowl.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Presented by Group One. We'll be in Dallas at Bar W.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: That's at 2926 Maple Avenue. Great place for it. And
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: it'll be a five-hour Red River rivalry. Radio roundtable.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: Perhaps a bit reckless as well anyway we'll have a
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: lot of fun uh you know mike hardball harge mark
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: henry obviously i'll be there uh cameron parker uh we'll
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: have uh brad kelder and bucky got bolts bucky and
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: bk will be there we'll also have a babe luffenberg
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: the cowboys radio analyst who will be on the broadcast
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: of tonight's Cowboys-Bucks game that you can hear on 98.1
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: FM KVAD. Babe will drop by and visit with us
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: as well. We'll have a recap of that Cowboy game.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: And he's got some interesting college football stories to tell
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: of his time as an Indiana Hoosier. So we'll do
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: that tomorrow. That's the Red River Rivalry Roundtable presented by
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: Group 1. Comes your way tomorrow from Bar W on
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: Maple Avenue. Let's hear some more from Longwood's head coach,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisian. This is from the media Zoom this morning,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: the last media availability for the gathered media to visit
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: with Sark.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: They do it by Zoom every Thursday morning. And he
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: was asked about, you know, has.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: He gotten what he really wants to get, what he
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: really hopes to see out of his running game?
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I think for all of it is, you know,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: outside of, you know, I think, the first game we
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 6: had all three of them and then, you know, Derek,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 6: you know, they rolls his ankle and then it was
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 6: kind of the ball started rolling where different guys were
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 6: getting nicked up along the way. Ideally we have all
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 6: three of those guys ready to go, but I'm, I'm
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 6: very comfortable if we have two or in last week's case,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 6: we really had one with Raleigh. I thought Raleigh ran
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 6: the ball. Well, could he have been even better? Sure.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 6: But thought he ran well and a couple of touchdown
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 6: runs and different things. So, Ultimately, the closer we get
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 6: to having all three of those guys 100% healthy, great.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 6: I don't know if any of them are going to
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: be 100% the rest of the way. They play running back.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 6: There is a toll that it takes, but I also
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 6: know there's a reason we try to get depth in
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 6: that room because of the physicality of this league and
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 6: then hopefully the amount of games that we have an
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 6: opportunity to play.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: Certainly, it'll be good to have Hollywood Smothers back on
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: the field with Raleigh Brown in the backfield.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: And Sark was asked.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: About what are the unique gifts that Smothers brings to
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: the party?
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 6: I just like the, you know, for a guy who
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 6: doesn't have the biggest stature, he runs hard and he's
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 6: a vertical runner. He runs through arm tackles. He hits holes.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 6: And so there is a change of pace. That's what
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: I do like. You know, I don't think he and
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 6: Raleigh run the same style. I think there's a uniqueness
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 6: to their style. And that's fun for us, but he
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 6: can hit it. He's a very good pass protector and
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 6: he catches the ball really well. So I think all
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 6: the tools that we look for in a running back
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 6: have shown up for him. Like I said, he's been
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: sorely missed not having them and it's good to have
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 6: him back.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right.
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  Speaker 1: Next, he was asked about really the methodology that goes
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: into getting Jermaine Bishop involved and more involved. Young man
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: has caught six passes for 81 yards so far this season.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: He is in the receiver rotation, especially when they go
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: with 10 personnel, one running back, and then they have
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: no tight ends and four wide receivers out there.
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  Speaker 2: So Sark was asked about that.
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  Speaker 1: How about the strategy and the methodology for finding the
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: right spots for for Bishop to be on the field.
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  Speaker 6: Methodology. That's a big word, David. Okay. Anyhow, you know,
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  Speaker 6: I think that the challenges is trying to put him
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 6: in position to have success so that he can continue
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 6: to build confidence as we go. At the same time,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 6: you know, making sure that the ball's getting distributed to
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 6: the right people in space so that they can go
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 6: create and make plays and Clearly, Jermaine has that playmaking
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: ability in him, but so does Emmitt, so does Ryan,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: so does Cam, so do the runners. We just got
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: to find the right rhythm to it all, and that's
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 6: been our challenge, and it will continue to be our
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 6: challenge until we can kind of hit our stride, you know,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: kind of consistently as an offensive football team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to give credit to David Eckert. He's
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: the one who had the question about him using the
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: term methodology.
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  Speaker 2: I like that word.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: You know me, people, say that I'll use 200 words
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: when 20 will do, that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But that's a good word, their methodology.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: Sark was asked, has he learned?
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  Speaker 2: And I got to tell you, I'm still a little
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: bit surprised. Not shocked.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: But I'm a little bit surprised when folks continue to
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: ask Sark what he's learned from Pete Carroll, what he's
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: learned from Nick Saban. The guy has been a head
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: coach for a while. You know, he's... He's been around
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: a bit, you know. He is now in his 13th
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: season as a head coach, his sixth season on campus. Yet,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: folks will still ask him about advice he might have
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: gotten in rivalry games. This is his sixth Texas OU game,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: and yet somebody asked him what he might have learned
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: from Nick Saban about rivalry games.
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  Speaker 6: I think one is respect the rivalry. You know, Coach
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 6: Saban always had great respect for rivalry games. In the
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 6: same breath, it went right back to what did we
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 6: need to do in our process to get prepared to play.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 6: He was not a big, you know, kind of rah-rah guy.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 6: It was like, this is what we do on Monday.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 6: And then Tuesday and then Wednesday and Thursday, you know,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 6: he's very matter-of-fact that way. But, you know, his teams
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 6: were ready to play. And so I think there was
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 6: a lot of respect for the rivalry games, but also
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 6: a lot of respect for what we did internally. And
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 6: then that was the approach that we took.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Next, you might say emphasis, a point of emphasis going
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: into the open date penalties and trying to figure out
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: how to limit those penalties. And if you were listening
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: last hour, you heard when we brought you an excerpt
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: from Longhorn Weekly with Coach Sarge, him talking about how
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: they've done a really good job not committing penalties. I
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: think four total in the first two games combined. And
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: then lately there have been penalties. So he was asked,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: how did he go about addressing the penalties in practice
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: during the open day?
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  Speaker 6: I think you have to point them out. And then
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 6: you have to show them on video of why penalties occur.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 6: And then how do we mitigate that from happening again?
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 6: And so, you know, one, we have to identify the
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 6: penalties and identify why they occurred. The players then have
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 6: to be coachable to make the adjustments so that they
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 6: don't occur again. And I also think the players have
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: to be coachable of learning from one another. Those are
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 6: all teachable moments. So we just don't want to continue
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 6: to make the same mistakes by the same person, clearly,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: but also by others. And I think that's been our approach.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 6: And that's obviously been a challenge of ours. and we'll
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 6: continue to emphasize it.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, next, he was asked about Oklahoma's defense because it
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: really kind of has been the calling card of the
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: Sooners so far in trying to keep things between the lines,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: give them a shot to win games.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: It's the defense that's been keeping them in games.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: In specific, the defensive front for the Sooners, and that
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: includes the interior defensive line, as well for Oklahoma. And
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: those interior defensive linemen include David Stone and Jaden Jackson.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Taylor Wine is on one defensive end spot. And then
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: on the other defensive end spot, you have Adipoju Adibawore.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: And he was asked about those guys, that defensive front
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: for Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 6: They're elite. They're elite. Those two guys are fantastic players.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 6: Jaden and David are fantastic players. We recruited both of them, obviously.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 6: They play at a high level. They're active. They're physical.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 6: They can two-gap you. They can get on an edge
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 6: of you. They can game you. Um, and obviously coach
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 6: Venable scheme, they've got a lot of defense and those
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 6: guys move and are in different spots a lot. So
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 6: it's not like, you know, where they're going to be
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 6: at every play. Um, but, but beyond that, I think
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 6: is all of the defense. You know, I think we'd
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 6: be remiss if we didn't talk about Kip Lewis, uh, and,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 6: and Heineke and, and the corner, the bone, you know, the,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 6: the corners and the safety, like these guys are good.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 6: um you know they've given up 300 yards in one
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 6: game this year and that was to georgia who had
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 6: 303 yards um you know everybody's looking at the number
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 6: of the score of that game well when you when
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 6: you get a fumble recovery for a touchdown 90 yards
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 6: and you get the ball inside the 10 for another
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 6: touchdown like these guys are good i mean georgia had
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 6: six carries that went for five yards or more in
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 6: the game total so this is a very good defensive
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: front it's a very good defense very challenging And so
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 6: we definitely got to work it out for us.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: Okay. And then finally, one more from Sark.
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  Speaker 1: This again from the media zoom this morning asked about
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: trying to keep his guys emotionally, mentally grounded as well
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: as execution wise in big games like these.
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  Speaker 6: This is kind of what we do. You know, I mean,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 6: I think when you come to Texas and you're on
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 6: a good team and you play at a high level,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 6: we're going to be in big games. And, you know,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 6: we take a lot of pride in playing well in
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 6: big games and we take a lot of pride in
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 6: winning big games. And I said this, I think, a
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: few weeks back or whatnot. we're not going to win
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 6: them all. You know, I mean, nobody wins every big
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 6: game they play in, you know, we've all, we've all
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 6: had our issues, but we went a lot of them
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 6: and we play pretty good. And I know we don't
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 6: always play perfect. And I know I get critiqued for
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 6: this or that in the big games and we can
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 6: do this better to do that better. But at the
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 6: end of the day, when you win, like that's the
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 6: one stat that matters the most. And so we're always
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 6: going to do everything in our power to try to
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 6: put our team in the best position to be successful
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 6: and ultimately try to win the game. And, and so we,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 6: we don't really change that from week to week. Like
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 6: that's our mentality and the flow of the game sometimes
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 6: is going to dictate how we try to win the game.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 6: You know, we go in with one plan and then
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 6: we may have to pivot as the game goes on.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 6: But ultimately as coaches and as players, as part of
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 6: our program, like we're trying to win the game and, and,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 6: you know, it's not about the flash. It's not about the,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 6: it's like, do we have one more point than they have?
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 6: And are we seeing in the eyes of Texas and
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 6: singing Texas fight in the locker room as a victor?
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 6: And that's really what the mindset is, you know, week
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 6: to week for us.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: There it is from Sark.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: Now, again, coming up here in a few minutes, we
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: have another excerpt from tonight's additional sneak preview of Longhorn
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: Weekly with Coach Sark. Our special guest tonight, by the way,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: Lamar Houston, big defense line, speaking of interior defensive linemen,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: played on the outside and in the inside, started games
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: both at defensive tackle and defensive end. And we'll hear
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: tonight from Lamar Houston. Great conversation with him as well.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: But we'll have some specific breakdowns of Oklahoma. An excerpt
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: will bring you a sneak preview of tonight's edition of
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Longhorn Weekly with Coach Sark, where he takes a closer
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: look at Oklahoma. The show itself will air at 7
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: o'clock here on The Zone.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: Coming up, we'll have that.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Also, a couple other college football notes here on a
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: Texas OU Week Thursday on Sports Radio AM 13 Under
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: the Zone and the iHeartRadio app. Rolling us back here
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: out of the break.
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  Speaker 4: Stay in school.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: Stay off the hard stuff and keep it between the lines.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: I think we said that phrase four or five times
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: on the show today. Sturgill Simpson with his version.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll tell you what.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: It's really important to keep it between the lines if
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: you're driving up I-35. This being the Craig Way Show,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: we entertain such questions as the one on the text
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: line asking, will I-35 south of Waco ever be finished?
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: It's the unanswerable question. It really is.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: You know, the curve there, right there where Temple becomes Belton,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: that was always been a sluggish, slow-down area. And then
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: just off the south side of Belton near the Bell
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: County Convention Center, right around there, what do they call
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: it now?
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: It's got a sponsor name on it now.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: But anyway, that's always been a sluggish area.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: Waco was a mess for a while. Then it got good.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: And now it's messy again.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: So there's these constant improvements going on along I-35. And
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: we all know what I-35 is like, trying to drive
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: up there on Friday. So I'll be traversing it along
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: with others tomorrow morning, headed up to Dallas. And then
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: we'll bring you that Red River rivalry roundtable, radio style,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: from Bar W., 2926 Maple Avenue. So I hope to
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: see you out there for that. There was a college
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: football note I wanted to get to. The Big Ten
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: basketball media days have been going on. And next week
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: is going to be SEC basketball media days, men's and women's.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: Big Ten has had it going on. So Tony Petitti
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: is the commissioner of the Big Ten, as we know.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: And he was there.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: And of course, he, along with Greg Sankey, the SEC commissioner,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: have been kind of front and center on the whole
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: thing about for the college football playoff expanse or this
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: or that. Well, it was a little bit different discussion,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: but TD was asked at the media days, if the
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: proposed protect college sports act is going to allow the
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: big Ten, which has 18 members right now, to maybe
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: add two more and get it to an even 20.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: Petitti said, and I quote, the conference, while aggressively supporting
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: the bill, the Protect College Sports Act, has had, and
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: here's his quote, absolutely no discussions taking place around expansion,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: and there haven't been for quite some time. He said
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: this conference has got 18 strong members.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: We're focused on that.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that we think we can
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: do inside the conference to continue to grow the position
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: that we have with the 18 members. Of course, the
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: bill passed the Senate last month. It next goes to
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: the House of Representatives. That would cap conference membership at
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: 20 teams, and it would require any school seeking to
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: move from one Power 4.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: Conference to another. We're looking at you, Florida State and Clemson.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: To spend three years without any conference affiliation before joining
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: the new league.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: Looking at you, North Carolina, maybe Virginia.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: So the Big Ten most recently expanded, of course, by
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: landing four teams from the original Pac-12, USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: They had already added Nebraska, Rutgers, and Maryland. Petitti says
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: he's optimistic the bill will pass the House and said
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: it addresses core themes of around eligibility and transfer rules
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: that will help college sports reach a cleaner system of operation.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: He said he respects athletes who take legal means to
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: establish their eligibility, noting that a number of Big Ten
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: athletes have done so, but added that returning from a
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: professional league to college crosses a line. That's the bridge
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: too far there. Anyway, that came from that. It says
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: the Big Ten is not interested in expanding. at least
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: right now, getting to the max of 20. We've heard
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: no such conversations from the SEC expanding beyond 16 either.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: As we mentioned tonight, we will bring you Longhorn Weekly.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: It comes up at 7 o'clock with Longhorn's head coach,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisian. Lamar Houston will join us for a good
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: portion of the program as well. But, of course, on
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: the show every week, Sark and I break down the
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: opponent and look at the opponent in specifics, the strengths
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: and the challenges that the opponent presents for Texas. So
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: here was our conversation talking about the Oklahoma Sooners.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 6: This group is a fantastic defensive football team, and we
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 6: know Coach Venables, that's his specialty. The front is elite.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 6: The secondary is a bunch of returning players who play
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 6: at a high level, and the scheme is really good.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 6: So work cut out for us over there. On the
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 6: other side, You know, you look at the Georgia game,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 6: you're like, oh, well, the score's out of whack. Well,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 6: they drive the length of the field. The ball slips
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 6: out of Mateer's hands. Georgia picks it up, runs 90
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 6: yards for a touchdown. They get another turnover. They run
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 6: the ball back inside the five-yard line, get a touchdown.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 6: Georgia only had six runs go for five yards or
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 6: more in the game. Two of them were long touchdown runs.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 6: And so what does it tell me? This is a
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 6: talented group. All right, they've got Satanya, who is a
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 6: really good receiver. He's an elite returner, arguably the best
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 6: returner in the country. So I hope people don't get
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 6: caught up looking at 2-2. This was my point earlier
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 6: about us. What have we done well? We've gotten a 4-0, right?
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 6: A year ago, I could have said, man, we were
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 6: good at this, we were good at that. But the
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 6: bottom line is we are what your record says you are.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 6: We were 2-2. But we were a hungry 2-2 football team,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 6: and we felt like we had something to prove. Our
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 6: backs were against the wall. And we were a wounded animal,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 6: and that's what made us dangerous in that game last year,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 6: especially in the second half when we were behind at halftime.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 6: So we have to know what to expect from Oklahoma.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 6: We're going to get their best shot. We're going to
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 6: get everything they got, the best play calls, the best effort,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 6: the best schemes, all the stuff we're going to get. That,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 6: to my point, is why we need to be focused
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 6: on what we need to do from an execution standpoint.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: In terms of some of their offensive weaponry, the one
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: guy that keeps coming up that people are talking about,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: is Rocky Beers, the tight end. And Hayden Hanson, the
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: other transfer, those guys have been a big, big part
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 6: Well, it's been interesting because there's been a little bit
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 6: of evolution into what OU offense had been over the
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 6: past couple of years to where they are now. They've
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 6: evolved to using more tight ends. I think that started
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 6: a year ago with the young man that was the
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 6: linebacker that they moved to tight end. And they've kind
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 6: of evolved this thing. And Rocky Beers is a real
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 6: issue because what they do is, they put 12 personnel
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 6: out there on the field, one back, two tight ends,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 6: two receivers. And most people think you're running the ball.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 6: They're in line. Well, Oklahoma splits you out and Rocky
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 6: beers is running routes like a receiver. And so they
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 6: create matchup issues that way. Um, which, which again is
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 6: always the hard part. And then you always have to
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 6: worry about Mateer's legs because of the quarterback run, whether
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 6: it's the design quarterback runs or the off schedule runs
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 6: when he tucks it and runs. And so, You've got
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 6: to put all that together and play really sound, good
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 6: defensive football.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: Is this game also about surviving the initial surges of momentum,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: whether it's good or bad, especially if things don't go
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: well early, like you mentioned the sluggish start offensively a
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: year ago, moving on, being able to block that out
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: and move on beyond it and play your game?
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 6: You know what's crazy is I feel like every year
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 6: it's gone different. Our first year here, shoot, I think
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 6: we block a punt, touchdown, touchdown, We score again. I mean,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 6: it's 21 to something. We're up 34 to 13, whatever
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 6: the heck it was. Other year, I think Quinn throws
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 6: a pick on the second play of the game. He's
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 6: got two picks the first two drives of the game.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 6: So we've been on both sides of it. I think
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 6: what's key in this game in particular is you have
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 6: to play four quarters, and you have to be committed
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 6: to a four-quarter football game, understanding that, yes, momentum is
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 6: going to swing back and forth, but stay into the grind,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 6: staying consistent and understanding that, hey, we can turn the
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 6: tide back if it goes in their favors, but we've
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 6: got to do the things necessary to make that happen.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: I ask you this every year.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: If things go well, what's going to be the choice
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: of the state fair food for you after the game?
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 6: The corn dog the one year was really, really good.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 6: The turkey leg has been fantastic.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: And you like that sweet stuff too, like the chocolate
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: peanut butter combo.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 6: I think this year I'm going funnel cake. If we're
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 6: fortunate enough to win– I think I want to, but
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 6: I want a deluxe funnel cake. I don't want just
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 6: the powdered sugar.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: You want everything on it.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: If we're lucky enough to win, I want a real
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: funnel cake, Bianco, okay? Yeah, he's telling John Bianco, I
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: want a real funnel cake. You know, what Sark has
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: done the last two years is, two years ago, he
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: told me he wanted to try a corndog, and they
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: were going to try to get him one, but somebody
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: else brought him a turkey leg first. And he ate
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: a good portion of the turkey leg. And the players,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: by and large, independent poll, if you talked about like
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: the turkey leg, they prefer, I think they just like
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: having something big meaty thing to eat there as opposed
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: to the corn dog. Sark has a little more of
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: a sweet tooth. And last year, he went for the
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: corn dog. Somebody got him a corn dog. Might have
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: been John Bianco. That's why I said he wanted a
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: funnel cake if he gets it this year because he
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: has the sweet tooth, but he wants a fully loaded one. Like,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: not just the powdered sugar on it. You know, he wants,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: you know, they can put some strawberries on it and
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: some chocolate sauce and stuff like that.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 4: It's an after the interview dessert.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: After post-game press. Here's the weird thing about that.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: The press conferences that follow the Red River rivalry The
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: losing team goes first or is supposed to go first.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: And then the winning team follows. So we like that, A,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: because it means Texas has won, and B, it gives
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: us an opportunity to get to Sark a little quicker
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: in the postgame and to get some other players on
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: before the designated ones go to the podium. okay, so
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: it works out like that, but they had a deal,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was after the 49-0 game,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: or I want to say it was after two years ago,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: the 34-3 game, but Brent Venables, for whatever reason, they
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: stayed in the locker room, and stayed in the locker room,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: and stayed in the locker room a long, long, long, long,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: long time before going out, and so then, you know,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: it was, it It took a long time anyway to
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: get them through the thing.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: And so it kind of messed up the whole process
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: of the deal. It didn't work.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like that last year. It was much more orderly.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: And hopefully it'll be that way. And hopefully Texas gets
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: the win. And, you know, Sark gets a fully loaded
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: funnel cake. I'm sure he would appreciate it. Or a
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: Choco dog. I want that chocolate-filled corn dog. I want
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: that chocolate-filled corn dog. No hot dog. It's just chocolate
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: on the inside of it. I want one of those,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: hopefully in celebration after the game. Now, Will Matthews and I,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: the last two years, we've had a tradition of walking
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: out together and going down. And Will, by the way,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: will be with us on the Red River Rivalry Roundtable
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: as well. So we'll have him join us for some
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: of it as well. But Will and I have had
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: this tradition of going down to the Fletcher. Corny Dog
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: Stand and getting corn dogs and then, you know, taking
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: the picture with the corn dogs. So we're double-fisted corn
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: dog eaters. I ate one and took two home with me.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: One for me and one for Linda.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 4: Did that stay good in your bag?
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: Wrapped up warm. got there, put it in the air fryer,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: it's golden. Comes out just fine.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: For those not watching us on stream, Craig with the
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: double-fisted corndogs look like he was doing the Wakanda Forever
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: from the Black Panther.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: There it is.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: Same thing, right? With the corndog.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 5: Do that. Okay.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: We need that picture.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: We're going to hear more from Jerry Jones coming up
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: when we continue on Sports Radio AM 13 after the
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: zone in the IR Radio app.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: My John B.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 6: Stetson is.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 7: We have stuck together through many a woman.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: Are you counting on a cold north wind blowing down
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: into Dallas on Saturday?
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: Because I'm hearing it's going to be about 90. Well,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: I'm not counting on that.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: But I am a man that is superstitious.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: And I think we came back with this before the
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: Red River game last year.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: You're kidding.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: And the message still holds true.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: You remember this?
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: Well, YouTube remembered that I'd played it.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: And so this one is.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 4: Another Texan.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: Don't touch my hat. That's what the Longhorns are saying.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: The golden hats.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: You know, it's really weird about that golden hat thing that,
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: you know, it was a lot of folks don't know this.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: For many years, it was the bronze hat. The hat
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: was bronze. It wasn't gold. It's a 10-gallon hat, but
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: it was spray-painted and mounted, you know, on that base.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: And it was bronze for years. And then they finally went, ooh,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: just go gold. And so it's a golden hat now.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: I like how the fact you take it off of the,
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: on every, it seems like virtually every member, at least
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: every team leader of the opposing team puts on that hat. Now,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think I ever saw either Matt Brown or
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: Bob Stoops put the hat on. I don't think I
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: ever saw that. I did see Charlie Strong do it.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: I think I saw Tom Herman do it. Sark obviously
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: has done it. Team leaders have done it a lot.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: You know, I think about things like when Case McCoy
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: was the quarterback, when they pulled the upset at 13
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: and that great, big smile of his and he had
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: the the golden hat on colt mccoy i think of
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: other longhorn players through the years have put that golden
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: hat on so it's it's it's kind of like skating
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: around with a stanley cup you know because they pass
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: it around when they're out there on the field.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: Except when you get to one half of the stadium
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 3: with the golden hat everybody's.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: Left yeah that's true That's true. So they really kind
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: of keep it down to their end of the field
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: there when they do it.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, there's this.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of the state, I did see
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: the really cool thing, I thought, your team, the Washington Capitals,
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: since Aleksandr Ovechkin announced he's going to retire. So the
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: first game after that, last night, he's introduced on the
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: ice by his two sons. He's young, his kids, right?
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: And the crazy thing for guys my age now, yeah,
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: I get to say that, too. is that his sons
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: are about how old I was when I started watching
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: him play hockey.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 5: Wow. Yeah.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: So they introduced him there. So how old is he now? Ovechkin?
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 4: Ovechkin, I believe, is 39.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 4: Might be off on that.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: And this is his last year. He's going to retire.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: He's 41. 41. And the all-time goal-scoring leader in NHL history.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: Pretty impressive stuff.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 5: Okay. Um.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: Cowboys get ready to take on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers today.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, like I said, always entertaining, was doing his
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: weekly radio dance up in Dallas on 105.3 The Fan. And,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: you know, the Cowboys, of course, had to rally, score
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: 28 second half points to beat Houston last week. And
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: there have been those who have questioned the, the game
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: management of the coaching staff, namely Brian Schottenheimer. So Jerry
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: was asked, does he sit in on Schottenheimer's game management
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: meetings during the week?
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 5: Well, let me just answer your question this way. When
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 5: you're the ultimate decision maker, and I have that privilege
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 5: in many areas, the one you need the most work
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 5: on is in the mirror. That's the cat right there
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 5: that you need to get right. And you need to
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 5: be honest with yourself. And you need to say, how
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 5: much are you making that decision or, dare I say,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 5: influencing that decision? Because sometimes people are just background noise
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 5: and you're just making the decision. Sometimes you're literally looking
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 5: for the direction to go and you're making decisions between
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 5: two or three different opinions. How much are you using
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 5: all of that staff and all of that information? Is
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 5: it just a total process of what you call natural?
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 5: If you catch yourself on the wrong end of a
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: couple of decisions, you really have to go back to
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 5: the mirror. And I'll assure you, Shadi or any of
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 5: his delegations there are going back to that mirror. That's
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 5: the culprit in the mirror.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: But do you sit in on the meetings?
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: He didn't really answer the question. Jerry's really good at
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: that sometimes. And then one more from Jerry. The trade
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: market always comes up. He just made a deal to
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: get Joey Porter Jr. in there.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: They've made other deals.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: What exactly would it take for him to go back
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: into the trade market this season?
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 5: Well, I think the door is always open to get better.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: I know that's almost a cliché. But if the right,
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 5: I'm never shut down from trying to get something that
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 5: would really advance the needle, especially one that could do
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 5: it now and into the future. And, again, I said
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 5: at the start of training camp, I'm willing to put
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 5: some things out there that are for today, lean more
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: today than they would be three years from now. Well,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 5: that's the future we're talking about. So I'm open. We're open.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 5: We've got a trade deadline coming up when you can
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 5: do some things. Let's see what happens. You obviously see
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 5: that we're in a transition period. to some degree, in
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 5: the club. But the transition is so that we can
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: win now as opposed to the transition addressing totally two
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 5: or three years from now. Now, that's a mouthful, and
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 5: it is obviously almost a dream to be able to
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 5: address now and improve as well as really put it
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 5: in place for the future.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: Jerry's always good at saying a mouthful.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: He is.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 4: How do you like your salad?
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 11: Words.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: Salad.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: He's good at it. He's always been good at it
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: as well. I will say this. You know, if they
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: win tonight, they.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: Climb back above the 500 mark, which wasn't looking real
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: promising after the sluggish start. But now they have a
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: chance to get to three and two and not only
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: be three and two, You know, they'd be no worse
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: than a game out of first if the Giants win.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: And let me just check the NFL schedule on that.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: Because the Eagles, as we know, are 2-2. And so
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: the best that they can be is 3-2.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: If they do that.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: So this weekend, with the Cowboys playing the Thursday night game,
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: a win gets them to 3-2. The New York football
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: Giants are playing your Washington Commanders this week, Jake.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels, back in the mix.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: He's going to be back, right? Yeah.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 4: Katron Allen is not. Six-round pick. They cut him today. Okay.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to see if the Giants
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: get to 4-1 as they play in that game.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: You know how much Vegas likes the Giants as a
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: 3-1 team? How about underdogs against 1-3 Washington? Three and
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: a half points.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: Eagles play at Jacksonville, and that's a crucial game for
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: them given the fact that Jacksonville's played pretty well.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: And we know about the Texans, how the path has
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: been so difficult. Put it this way.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: I can see them winning this Sunday in Nashville, but
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: if they don't beat the Titans and they go to 0-5...
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: There could be changes.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'd be shocked. I'd be shocked.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: That would be one of the most– because at that point,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: they're probably going to miss the playoffs.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: That would be one of the most underachieving teams that
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: was supposed to do big things. and and just the
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: way that it would have happened is surprising we don't
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: know what's going to happen this sunday but the way
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: that they're open for i mean you can put three
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: of those four losses squarely on the defense.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: Yep yeah so we'll see how that works out as
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: well and by the way you'll be able to hear
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: that game Sunday at noon right here on the zone.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: The Texans against the Titans. This is where you catch
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: Texans action. The Cowboys on 98.1 FM. KVET, 6 o'clock.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: So the airtime just a little over an hour from now.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: And the kickoff just past 7.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: From Jerry World.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: By the way, we have breaking news here. I don't
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: know if you knew this, Jake. Cameron Parker is lifting
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: his blackout.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 4: Wow, okay, so he's back in.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: No, didn't say that.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 4: Okay, I've said that. I've speculated that.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: No, he's going to watch the Cowboys.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 5: Why?
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: Because he's going to the game.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: And it's Cameron's first ever Cowboys game at Jerry World.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 4: Wow, okay.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: He went to one game at Texas Stadium, he said
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: like 2003, and he barely remembers.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: He was like six years old.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: So he is going to go to Jerry World for
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: the first time to see a Cowboys game. He's been
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: there for high school state championships, but it'll be the
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: first time he's ever been for a Cowboys game.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: So he said, yeah, I'm going to watch the game.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 3: I forgot about the blackout. Part of me doesn't believe
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: that he's really blacking out the Cowboys. I think he's
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 3: seeing his highlights in small doses. Well, he does see that.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: He said when he's gone to people's houses, they might
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: have the game on, whatever. But he doesn't sit down
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: and watch.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 4: What's he going to do?
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: Go in the other room?
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm just going to get some, you know, get
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 3: something to.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: Drink over here.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: He doesn't pay that much attention to it, he says.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: He will tonight. He's going to the game. So we'll
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: ask him about it tomorrow when we have the Red
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: River Roundtable, Red River Rivalry Roundtable there at Bar W.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: We'll be back to wrap up today's edition of the
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: program on 13 Under the Zone.