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Ray Thompson & Hunter Rawlings memories, NBA Playoff thoughts, Tom Kakert talks Hawkeyes & the Chicken Coop Contest · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  All right, Good afternoon. Welcome to Miller and Condon on
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  a Friday. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
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  Network. Trent Condon, Ken Miller for the
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  next couple of hours talking sports with you.
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  Appreciate you starting your afternoon here with us as we
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  will take you until 2:00. Turn things over the drive at
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  that time, 2 to 5. Heather and Sean overtime Iowa
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  from 5:00 until 6. Here's what's coming up on our
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  program. We will start with Tom Caker to
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  some Hawkeye conversation with Caker about 1225.
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  Had a request to ask about Emily Rodriguez, who apparently is
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  visiting the Iowa women's program, see if there's any
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  traction in that department. So Tom should be on top of that.
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  We'll talk to him about that and other stuff coming up here at
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  12:25, we'll give 4 of you an opportunity to win some grub
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  from the chicken coop. The winner will get $50.00 to
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  spend as they please. The runner up, we'll get 20
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  wings. We'll do that about well, here
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  to call be about 12:45. If you haven't participated in
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  that contest in the last 30 days, you're eligible to do so
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  whether you won or not 30 days. If you've played, you can't and
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  Commissioner Condon will Chuck you out.
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  Our number 2 will head to Las Vegas.
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  Started off with Mike Palm, VP of operations at Circa Sports.
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  One week from today, the contests open up.
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  You can enter the contest, Survivor and Circa Millions.
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  I don't think we'll get any Intel as perhaps some of the
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  changes this week. They're keeping it pretty tight
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  to the vest, but we'll talk to Mike Palm about that and the
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  just the fact that the schedule maker did the contest no favors,
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  not that they had that in the back of their mind when they
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  were coming up with the schedule for the final couple of weeks of
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  the regular season. Bill Seals, we shortchanged
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  yesterday on time. Going to get him back in here to
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  finish his thoughts on Iowa State from this past week.
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  Wendy Weinstein in the news today, president of Iowa State.
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  She is retiring in 2026 and by all accounts from where I sit, I
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  don't know much about the woman other than the fact that she
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  seems like she's pretty favorable to the sports programs
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  and that's not always the case with school presidents.
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  But I would stay again, seemingly had one that was in
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  Sports Corner. If you will, what you're always
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  hoping for is obviously somebody that a school president that
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  embraces athletics, that's celebrates, supports, does all
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  the things that you want. At worst, you want somebody
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  neutral, and then there's the worst to worst a guy like Hunter
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  Rawlings and do you Now I. Don't know him.
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  So this was right as you were moving to the states.
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  He was the school president of Iowa in the late 80s into the
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  early 90s. He wanted the Big 10 to turn
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  into the Ivy League. Did he really and he wanted
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  athletics deemphasize and there are many people believe the
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  halcyon days of Iowa athletics were many are the 1980s.
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  Many people believe that the beginning of things taking at
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  least a step back as an athletic department was because of the
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  damage that Hunter Rawlings gave to the university and most
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  importantly to the athletic department because of the
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  rhetoric that he was using at that time.
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  What? Was his background to get the
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  job? Do you have any idea?
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  I think. He was maybe like a Provost at
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  Cornell. It was an Ivy League school that
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  he was like the number 2 at an Ivy League school and.
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  He thought he could transform Iowa into.
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  Well, that Iowa. The Big 10.
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  The Big 10 overall. Yes, it was.
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  He wanted to make the Big 10 big.
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  Plans. Ivy League light.
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  And because he was the school president of Iowa, that's where
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  he was going to do it. So here's another old story for
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  you. We remember the senior year of
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  BJ Armstrong, Roy Marble and Martin, that group, they also
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  had an outstanding freshman on that team, an outstanding
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  freshman that halfway through the season was no longer with
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  them. And he was, if memory serves, he
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  was eligible for NCAA and Big 10 standards.
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  But I think the suspension came down because of what Iowa was
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  implementing at the time. Now, again, we're going back
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  high. Academic standards like they had
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  a Drake back in the day. Yes, like because didn't Drake
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  have something very similar to that in the early aughts?
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  Well, I've, we were on the air during that time period.
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  We started in 96 and that was a thing.
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  I remember that. Didn't pay too much attention to
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  it to be honest with you. Prior to what happened to that
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  dude? Did they run him out of town?
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  Yes, So he went to Tulsa. Ray Thompson, 65, solid thick,
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  he averaged 11 1/2 points per game.
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  So that season I think they beat beat somebody good that year.
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  But yeah, he was part of the squad, wasn't able to play.
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  And after two years he departed and went to Tulsa and had a nice
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  career there. But he was averaging 11 1/2
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  points per game as a freshman playing with five NBA players.
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  Roy Marble, Ed Horton, BJ Armstrong, Matt Bullard, Les
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  Jepsen. We're all on that team.
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  And he was the Bells. North Dakota.
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  Well, that had more points than Matt Bullard, James Moses, Wade
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  Lookingbill as a junior on that squad.
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  There's a blast for the past. So Lookingbill would have been
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  at at Iowa when this guy is running the shop perhaps?
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  So where did he go? Where did oh Hunter?
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  Rawlings, yes. I think he went back to, again,
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  we're talking a long time ago. My memory is I think he went
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  back to an Ivy League school. I think Cornell, for whatever
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  reason, is sticking in my mind. Yeah.
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  That's I've never heard of him until right now.
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  Really. Yeah, never heard of him.
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  Hunter Rawlings Yeah. Cornell University.
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  He was the office and that was this president.
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  Is he dead? He's still with us, 80 years
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  old. Let's see running through his
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  resume now as Mary Sue Coleman took over for him.
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  She was the school president. Whenever I remember.
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  Yes, and she was neutral. Yeah, I think so, yeah.
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  I think a neutral for a big athletic.
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  Department. Is she in where?
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  Michigan? Yes, that's where she went after
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  Iowa. Yeah.
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  He was at the University of Iowa from 87 to 95, and then he went
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  to Cornell after that. See, I've had that right about.
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  That memory to you, we'll give it to you.
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  They think that's how we're starting off.
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  No, I didn't either. Some guy never heard of PGA.
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  Take a look at the leaderboard speaking a bunch of guys never
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  heard of it is not the shiniest leaderboards.
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  Now obviously it's going to change.
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  One would assume one would hope between now and maybe tomorrow
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  as some of the guys are still getting underway.
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  Some of the big names. Bryson Dechambeau is trying to
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  make a run up the leaderboard. He started it even he's 3 under
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  the leader. Johnny Vegas is 9 under
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  currently, 9 under for Vegas. And then again, and while Max
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  Home is on in the hunts and Luke Donald.
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  But for the most part, you're not going to go out of your way
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  because this is appointment TV. And when I saw that the game
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  seven of the Western Conference final was at 2:30 in the
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  afternoon, I was kind of disappointed because that's
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  right in the middle of the, you know, final few holes of the
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  PGA. But if the leaderboards like
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  this, I'm sorry. I'm watching hoops.
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  And you're not going to be alone.
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  This is this is bad news, awful for the PGA.
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  I, I just look over all like kind of this, this leaderboard,
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  it's pretty rare at this point in my life that there are a half
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  dozen guys well as much. As you bet golf, you don't miss
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  a week. I didn't know these guys for the
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  most part, not this group though of stiffs.
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  They're not stiffs this week, but this is this is bad.
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  You look at the cut line projected right now it's.
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  Over 1? Is it 2?
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  Now it was two. Yeah, or at least a moment ago.
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  Now it's one. And the guys that would miss the
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  cut, Jordan. Spieth Sep Straka, who won last
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  week, Matsuyama, Jason Day, Corey Connors and a lot of
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  people bet to be the top Canadian.
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  Ludwig Aubert, Justin Thomas, Sanjay M That's a pretty Patrick
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  Reed. Nobody cares, but it's Patrick
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  Reed. Brooks Kepka.
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  Rory. No, just did I pass him.
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  There he is. He's on the list, isn't he?
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  He hasn't started his round yet, has he?
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  He has not. He'll.
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  Tee off here in about 40 minutes.
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  But to your point, some of the guys we saw, it would be, you
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  know, this would be flip-flopped, that the guys we
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  just named would be missing the cut and these guys would be in
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  Will Zaltoris, another one having a struggle so far.
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  So Will Maxima is a guy that kind of beloved he was.
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  Yeah, he's more for his personality than his game,
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  right? Absolutely.
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  He can't play. Yeah, he was a young gun.
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  It didn't completely click, but he was thought of.
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  He was going to be in that group with, you know, JT and that kind
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  of guys and it just, it didn't quite get there.
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  But he's not a guy that can carry the weekend.
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  No, if he was up there in contention and wins a PGA with
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  the big leaderboard that, But he's not going to drive
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  television. This is already the fourth
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  major, but I mean, I'm really looking at saying give me The
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  Players Championship over this. This is bad this.
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  Has been this year, that's for sure.
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  We'll see where it goes. But I I'm with you.
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  It's it's just it's disappointing so far.
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  But again, we've got a lot of golf to play and we'll see if
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  things change. Hopefully that they will.
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  One of those questions is we do each when it comes to all of the
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  majors will in America win the major this week this this major
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  championship. So that'll be part of the
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  chicken coop before we get get into the basketball from last
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  night. Touch on the hockey a little
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  bit. One series over one series moves
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  on to a Game 6 baseball. Benjamin were referring to him
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  now. What's up, Benny?
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  Wow, going by my full name, I must be in trouble.
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  Just want to clarify, you have the right state.
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  Trent Ray Thompson did go to the state of Oklahoma, but it was to
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  Oral Roberts. To Oral Roberts, not Tulsa.
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  Same city. Same.
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  I had the city, right? I didn't say what school.
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  I just said the city. No, you got.
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  You got. Me, yeah, that I was 13.
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  And and it wasn't just the academics that did him in.
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  If you remember, you're a couple years younger than me, Trent
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  wasn't he picked up outside of like the field house or one of
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  those establishments and said, don't you know who I am?
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  And that was kind of the beginning of the end of good old
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  Ray. Ray was a hell of a player like
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  that. His son, his 11, he had like 11
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  on that team with studs and then he was out.
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  He was like 12 or 13 his sophomore year and then he was
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  jettisoned and I believe, wasn't there a Garner kid that also
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  transferred to Oral Roberts with him like Brian Garner?
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  Brian Gardner, yeah, super fast. Couldn't I mean, he was a
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  turnover machine, but yeah, Brian Gardner, yeah, he also
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  went down there with him. I'm looking Thompson was
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  averaging that sophomore year and that's when he the casualty
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  happened. He did play his little freshman
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  year. 17/16/17 his sophomore. Year he was averaging 19 points,
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  5 rebounds, 2 assists. So that team, that was the first
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  Doctor Tom team that missed the tournament.
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  Wow. Well, because BJ and Roy and
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  those guys had all graduated. So this was Ray Thompson's
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  sophomore year. But before that happened, that
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  was the year they went into the Dean Dome and won down.
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  They had some nice victories. In fact, they started the season
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  off at 7 and O that year they were ranked in the top 25.
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  Thompson departed. Wheels fell off.
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  Thank you, Hunter Rollins. Anything else, Benny?
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  No, I'm 8th grade. I can remember like it was
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  yesterday, like can tell you where I was at in 6th grade
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  watching the team play him out and the Elite Eight against
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  UNLV. Can Sarkanian talk to the
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  officials for like 20 minutes? Didn't even have to discuss
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  anything with his team, just gave the official with the ear
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  full at halftime. And that game totally changed
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  the second-half. But man, the, the 35 years ago,
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  how how great those players were and what we what we dismantled.
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  And now hopefully McCollum can turn around.
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  I I can can remember Larry Larry Morgan and Mac get your chips
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  and salsa boys, because we're going to have a good time on Ray
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  com. I want to go back to those.
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  Things. So do I hear you?
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  So do I. See you, Betty.
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  Good to hear from you. Yep, absolutely good stuff.
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  The archives of the LA Times, which is part of the wire
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  services from Let's see the date here. 1990 basketball player Ray
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  Thompson, a promising sophomore who was suspended from the team
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  three times for academic and legal problems, has left the
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  school, it was disclosed today. Three strikes, he's finally out.
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  He was out of there. The departure reported by The
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  Gazette and confirmed by Doctor Tom Davis.
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  So there it was three different times.
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  And if you pull off the Do you know who I am?
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  Yeah. Rarely works for.
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  You, especially if it's the third time.
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  Yeah, that not good. Julio Boy learned something
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  here. They love that little history of
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  the state that I call home. Anyways, basketball from last
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  night. Just your thoughts on the game.
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  Did you see much of it? Were you surprised that Denver
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  was able to do what they did? It was, I mean, they were they
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  were in the Mile High City. And Murray steps up the way he
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  does. Well, he's a good playoff
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  performer. He really is.
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  You know, I'm never surprised when you have Yokich on the team
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  and Murray. Now there was the talk of the
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  and. Christian Brown was really good
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  yesterday too. And that's kind of what they
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  need, right? They need that.
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  Somebody else? Yep.
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  Because you're right, what Murray's turned into, he's like,
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  he's not a top ten player, but. No, he's a piece that every team
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  could use though. He's here's your number 2.
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  They won a championship with it and he does it seems like he has
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  that elevation that he can he can put the team on the back for
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  stretches. If Jokic doesn't have ridiculous
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  numbers, he can still carry you that way and he was able to do
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  it. But yeah, Brown was great you.
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  Know what else was Strother? Yeah, and you're about to say
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  and when you have those are things that happen at home.
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  But now you look at Game 7 and who's going to be the one that
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  steps up but and. What's the number in game seven?
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  It's pretty big. It's 7.
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  It's big. Yes, it is 7 1/2. 7 1/2.
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  When I look at this game seven, though, normally taking the
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  point spread aside, just winning the game, you're a pretty
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  significant underdog. You're going on the.
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  Road. I've got veterans though.
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  And that's I give them more than a punch.
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  Or two for that reason. Because Jokic can win a game by
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  himself, Murray can win a game. You have two different guys that
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  can do it on their own, Brown. Needs to make his shots.
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  To think this Strothra Brown. No, that's no, no, both of them
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  are not going to have the games that they had in Game 6.
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  But I also go the other way. SGA.
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  I've seen moments now I I don't like his style of play.
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  It goes back to conversation we had a decade ago with James
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  Harden. It's jumping in for fouls.
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  I hate it. I just despise that kind of
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  basketball player, too. It's not entertaining.
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  It's not aesthetically pleasing. He's better than that, yes, and
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  he is. He's good enough to not have to
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  do it and he does it. So I'm not a fan.
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  What pissed me off about Aaron White?
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  Yes, absolutely. You don't have to do it, but the
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  guys do. A step further though, if SGA
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  like the foul that he had before half time, what are you doing?
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  It's just dumb fouls. Pick up your 4th foul, you have
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  to sit 5 minutes in the third quarter because of just
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  selfishness. A bad basketball play like that
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  in a potential clinching game, that is selfish basketball.
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  And after him, who steps up? There's nobody in that group.
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  And that's that was my concern with OKC coming into this
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  playoff. We know that Gilder's Alexander,
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  he's a tremendous talent and he is incredibly good.
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  That next tier though, that next group, they're all talented.
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  It's it's not a talent thing, it's the reps.
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  And in a big moment, you think Lou Dort's going to hit that 3.
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  Then he didn't gain 5. Not no.
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  He's going to guard ya. Crusoe.
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  No. Williams.
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  Well, let me ask it this way, Chad.
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  Helgram hasn't been knocking down shots from the outside.
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  Now he looks unwilling to do it. He looks a little gun shy.
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  Yeah, and here comes Rudy Gobert potentially.
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  Who do you? If you're AT Wolves fan, who
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  would you rather play? That's a more difficult question
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  than it should be. Well.
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  I think the answer is you'd rather play OKC because Joker's
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  not playing yeah. You beat Denver a year ago.
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  In an unbelievable series where the road games played such a
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  huge role. I mean, Minnesota came back to
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  Minnesota up to zip. They took both games in Denver.
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  They what a game seven in Denver?
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  And didn't game seven in Denver? Yeah.
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  Are you going to beat Denver two years in a row in a Game seven?
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  I don't know that. So then you're tightening up the
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  series and that's the reason going back to the first Game 7
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  for the Nuggets back in the first round, I like them so much
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  as I just couldn't see has. Randall got another series in
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  him like this last one we just saw.
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  If he does, look. Out right and you look at the
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  match up, well, yeah, he had Draymond Green, who is a great
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  defender. He's also a guy on the backside
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  of his career, and now you're playing with some younger legs,
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  some different kind of defense. And there's a lot, I think, on
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  both sides of the argument. Just as a fan, I think I'd
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  rather see the Thunder. I think I would too.
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  Which is crazy the number one seed historically great numbers.
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  Well, you're. Going on the road regardless.
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  You're going on the road regardless, so maybe that is the
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  deciding factor that if it was homecourt, maybe it would sway
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  it. I'd just rather see OK C and if
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  you would have said that be get before the.
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  Series began. No, no, no, no.
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  And certainly after game one, yeah, no way.
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  What about tonight? Do the Knicks wrap it up or do
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  we get a Game 7 and that Game 7 is not going to be until Monday?
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  Which? I like.
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  Well, I don't, I mean. Oh, because your jets might.
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  Be it may be mean that it's we've got to go to Dallas and
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  you know how that works for our goalie.
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  Not very. Good.
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  We can't beat at home. He literally cannot put a puck
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  past. Him, he was tremendous last
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  night. Again, back-to-back shutouts at
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  home. What is it about?
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  But what goes on between his ears?
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  Trent, we know he's good. He's really, I sound like a
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  broken record, I'm sorry, I do. But 4 zip last night they were
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  the best team on the game, on the ice the night, the game
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  before Game 4 when they got beat 31, Winnipeg got played from
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  start to finish, but it was in Dallas.
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  Sadly, Carnelle Buck was on the road and he's got to go on the
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  road tomorrow and win. If I'm the Dallas Stars, you
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  better look after business tomorrow 'cause you're not going
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  to Winnipeg on Monday to win. You're not winning in that
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  building. You see what that?
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  Building's like it was. Great.
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  It was fantastic. Smallest building in the league,
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  you're right on top, top of them, Everybody's in white.
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  If you've watched it, you know what it's like.
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  It's crazy. The Jets will not lose Game 7.
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  Now I get there. Can they get there?
• 18:12
  Yeah. I if I had to bet my life, I
• 18:14
  would say no. Because we've seen.
• 18:16
  It because we've seen it all playoffs long.
• 18:18
  Unbelievable. Boy, it's a pretty good weekend
• 18:20
  in baseball. Just real quick on that.
• 18:21
  But I I do love these rivalry weekend.
• 18:25
  I do. I'm looking forward to that.
• 18:26
  But here's what I want to end this segment with you, Caleb
• 18:28
  Williams, the book that's coming up about the bears quarterback.
• 18:31
  Yes, I think it's a big to do about nothing.
• 18:34
  You do I do. He didn't want to play for the
• 18:37
  Bears. OK, you wanted to play for KOCI,
• 18:41
  get it? You didn't want to play for Matt
• 18:43
  Heberfluss. You didn't want to play where
• 18:45
  quarterbacks go to die. You had all of these concerns.
• 18:48
  But then you got there and then you decided to yourself, you
• 18:51
  know what? I can, I can, I can lead this
• 18:53
  team. And then all of a sudden, it got
• 18:55
  way better when Heberfluss was shown the door and here comes
• 18:58
  Ben Johnson. And I believe that the rest of
• 19:00
  the next chapters are going to be very good chapters.
• 19:03
  But I wasn't. If I was a Bears fan, I wouldn't
• 19:07
  be up in arms about what is coming up potentially in this
• 19:12
  book. You are a Bears fan.
• 19:13
  How did you take it? I took it as this is going to
• 19:16
  put him on an incredibly thin ice for the here and now.
• 19:19
  It's a nothing burger. I agree with that.
• 19:22
  But after a tough loss, a quote in the post game, something that
• 19:27
  is said, some kind of disparaging remark, whatever.
• 19:30
  Good, that could be construed as a day.
• 19:32
  Even if it's not, now you're working on that thin ice and
• 19:37
  things start to go South and the negativity and just the way that
• 19:40
  that city can eat guys up, that is where my concern lies.
• 19:46
  On its own, not a big deal, but it's what still could come.
• 19:50
  That leaves me a little bit. What do?
• 19:51
  You think the consensus amongst Bears fans is when they saw
• 19:54
  that? I mean, how did they put their
• 19:56
  head on the pillow last night with a negative thought about
• 19:59
  their quarterback kind of in the middle?
• 20:01
  I don't care he's here. We're glad we got a better
• 20:04
  coach, got better players. I think that's it's difficult
• 20:07
  because all fans are wired differently like that.
• 20:09
  There's a significant percentage that despise him for saying
• 20:13
  something like that, for thinking something like that.
• 20:15
  There is a certain, and now every single time that he plays
• 20:19
  poorly, the team poor, plays poorly, they're going to use as
• 20:22
  his ammunition. I don't know how big of a
• 20:23
  percentage, but it's a portion of the fan base that's going to
• 20:26
  be that way. I would guess the majority look
• 20:29
  at it in the grand scheme of things as no big, just win,
• 20:31
  baby. Yeah, exactly.
• 20:32
  We actually have a talented quarterback.
• 20:34
  Let's not. He watched film repeatedly by
• 20:39
  himself. No coaching, nobody in the room.
• 20:43
  He would just be in there by himself watching TV because no
• 20:46
  one would come in and coach him. That's damning.
• 20:49
  I mean, how does Eberflues get another job?
• 20:51
  Well. He's not there anymore.
• 20:53
  That's all I can. Well, that's true.
• 20:54
  That's true. And I'm not sure where he's, I
• 20:56
  mean, can he be a head coach again?
• 20:58
  I will take a time out. Tom Cakert will join us on the
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  Miller and Condon, welcome back 12:30 on a Friday, Iowa Sports
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  Radio Network. Trent Condon and Ken Miller with
• 22:00
  you until 2. Let's get to Tom Caker
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  hawkeyereport.com. Tom joins us every single
• 22:05
  Friday. Today being no different.
• 22:07
  Tom Trenton. Ken, thank you for jumping on.
• 22:09
  How are you doing? Well, how are you guys?
• 22:12
  Doing well. I want to ask you this before I
• 22:13
  forget because I promised I would, Emily.
• 22:16
  Emily Rodriguez apparently took her visit yesterday.
• 22:20
  She's subsequently went on to Indiana, apparently, Yeah,
• 22:24
  whatever, I guess. Any chance she becomes a Hawking
• 22:27
  place for Jan Jensen? What are you hearing about the
• 22:29
  UCF transfer, Tom? Yeah, I think there's a chance.
• 22:33
  And they feel like they put their best foot forward on the
• 22:36
  visit and you know, she's still taking trips.
• 22:40
  So I think that's where we're at is you just don't know what
• 22:43
  else. She may take more visits after
• 22:46
  Indiana. So we'll see what happens.
• 22:49
  But I think some of these people have to start making decisions,
• 22:54
  right? Because they, you know, as Ben
• 22:56
  McCollum was talking at the high club thing out in, out in Omaha
• 23:01
  to Omaha and the Council Bluffs, I guess the other night, you
• 23:05
  know, we're going to start practicing on on or doing
• 23:08
  workouts and stuff on June 2nd. So best, best that you get to
• 23:13
  town soon. So I think some people are going
• 23:16
  to make decisions soon. Those decisions, I know McCullum
• 23:20
  talked about what June 2nd, they're going to start their
• 23:22
  offseason workouts and hopefully have your roster kind of put
• 23:24
  together at that point knowing what it's going to look like
• 23:27
  going forward. But for next year's class, his
• 23:29
  first full recruiting class, Jane Kuhn, a kid from his
• 23:32
  hometown to Storm Lake that he grew up, commits to create.
• 23:36
  Oh, did he? Pretty big.
• 23:37
  Glow and a guy that I know, the staff obviously was high on and
• 23:41
  most everybody was high on there.
• 23:43
  I think that was a tough one to swallow.
• 23:45
  Your take away from Coon going to Creighton.
• 23:48
  Not surprised. I had heard a couple weeks ago
• 23:52
  that it was basically kind of a done deal that that he was going
• 23:55
  to end up at at Creighton. And it you know, what it
• 23:59
  reminded me of is when Fran came in and Marcus Page ended up
• 24:06
  going to North Carolina and not saying that this kid is as good
• 24:08
  as Marcus Page or anything like that.
• 24:10
  Just kind of the similar feel new coach comes in and the dies
• 24:16
  already kind of cast that he's going to another the best player
• 24:21
  in the state quote UN quote is going to another place.
• 24:24
  And you know, he went up there and visited and and tried to put
• 24:30
  his best foot forward to him. But I think Creighton was
• 24:33
  already well on his mind. Tom, I read a tweet from
• 24:39
  yesterday, got by the name of Evan Myakawa you're familiar
• 24:42
  with. Him.
• 24:43
  Yeah, I know. Evan.
• 24:44
  Yeah. Evan and I correspond
• 24:47
  frequently. Privately.
• 24:48
  Gotcha. So apparently this is the how
• 24:52
  much teams, how much schools, men's basketball programs have
• 24:56
  estimated to have spent their NIL money.
• 24:58
  And Iowa spent the third highest amount.
• 25:01
  Indiana 10.1, USC 9.9 million, Iowa 9,000,000 out of Michigan,
• 25:07
  Kentucky, St. John's.
• 25:08
  Who's got an endless flow of cash?
• 25:10
  I can tell you. Is that true?
• 25:12
  No, it's it's that is an estimation of what the roster is
• 25:16
  worth, not what was spent. His He's Ken Pomeroy.
• 25:20
  He is one of the analytical guys.
• 25:23
  Basically this is what the roster would cost in terms of
• 25:27
  that. So no, this is not a strictly a
• 25:29
  financial thing. I was.
• 25:29
  Going to say I thought they were.
• 25:30
  I thought they were starving for money.
• 25:34
  Yeah, it's probably a little more than half that total based
• 25:39
  on what I've heard. It's still quite as junk
• 25:41
  compared. To where they were.
• 25:43
  It's still, it's still better than the 1.5 or 1.1 depending on
• 25:47
  who you speak with, on what they spent last year.
• 25:50
  So yes, they have significantly improved their investment into
• 25:55
  their basketball roster this year and they're still trying to
• 25:59
  finish it up. And, you know, McCollum told
• 26:02
  Chad Lice Co the other day they're trying to get one more
• 26:05
  that can help them. I know that.
• 26:08
  And people were all charged up about a couple of guys that, you
• 26:12
  know, including the kid that visited.
• 26:14
  But it's just the financial aspect of things right now.
• 26:18
  They're kind of hamstrung. I think they're, there's just
• 26:22
  not another $1,000,000 player or whatever that you can really
• 26:26
  throw out there right now. So they've got to adhere to a
• 26:30
  little bit of a budget right now and and try to make that work.
• 26:33
  And so they're going to find, let's find somebody that can
• 26:35
  help. Doesn't mean specific position.
• 26:38
  Obviously they'd love to get a big kid that could bang a little
• 26:41
  bit and go up against big 10 players.
• 26:43
  But if not, I know now I had Luke Barnwell, one of the
• 26:49
  assistants on my podcast the other day and and he's basically
• 26:53
  like, hey, we feel pretty good about the guys that we got and
• 26:57
  that, you know, a good majority of those players were part of a
• 27:01
  team that won 30 games, including what, like 4 or 5 or
• 27:04
  whatever against Power Five team, something like that.
• 27:08
  So I want to jump into a little football with you and we got
• 27:12
  camp season right around the corner.
• 27:13
  I will get a ton of commitments in the month of June seemingly
• 27:15
  every year. That's kind of the way that it
• 27:17
  plays out. But I want to go to the class
• 27:19
  that's coming in. The guys that are either already
• 27:21
  on campus are going to be here in a couple of weeks.
• 27:24
  You can't say Yosei up Anessa because that's the easy one.
• 27:27
  Which one of the true freshman do you think has a chance to not
• 27:30
  just maybe play some special teams, but maybe be a guy that
• 27:33
  gets past that four games and actually is out there on the
• 27:36
  field a little bit more? I'd always lean towards the guys
• 27:40
  that are already here in that case, like a, you know, like ACJ
• 27:44
  Bowl or somebody like that. But there's always a defensive
• 27:47
  back that ends up playing early on.
• 27:50
  And that's just sort of a thing that Phil has always done.
• 27:54
  And so I would, I would throw Bell out there is is a guy that
• 28:00
  and it's a position need right now cornerback.
• 28:03
  I mean, there's a reason they went out and got the the Barrows
• 28:06
  kid from South Dakota to add to the depth there.
• 28:08
  And I can see Bell coming along and working his way up the the
• 28:13
  depth chart a little bit and and being out there this fall.
• 28:17
  I read a piece Chad Lysico Speaking of Lysico caught up
• 28:21
  with Tim Lester. The Shanahan offense at Iowa, is
• 28:26
  it going to work? And apparently, I mean, he's
• 28:29
  somewhat of a trendsetter when it comes to that offense in the
• 28:32
  college game. Certainly if it if it clicks,
• 28:35
  more people can follow because we know everybody copies
• 28:38
  everybody. But your thoughts on the
• 28:39
  Shanahan offense working at the University of Iowa?
• 28:42
  What does it potentially mean, Tom?
• 28:45
  Yeah, and I've talked to Tim about that before because he's
• 28:47
  like, hey, like nobody runs this off.
• 28:50
  Yeah. Wonder why.
• 28:51
  Offense in the college game and it is odd because it is a very
• 28:56
  successful offense and you know, it's the Chan and offense has
• 29:00
  made it to the Super Bowl more than once has it won, But it's
• 29:05
  it's made its way there. So you one would think that they
• 29:08
  would that people would like to to copy it or or use some, some
• 29:12
  aspects of it. But I think he's pretty excited
• 29:17
  about what he's got now because they've got more depth at
• 29:20
  receiver and they've got, I think a healthy and, and
• 29:27
  motivated quarterback that wants to go out and prove himself to,
• 29:32
  to everybody. So I, I'm really interested to
• 29:35
  see how this, this offense comes together and provided that
• 29:38
  offensive line stays healthy or gets healthy or however you want
• 29:42
  to term it right now. But if they can get steady
• 29:46
  offensive line play, I I one of my bold predictions this year is
• 29:51
  that I was is going to average over 30 points a game.
• 29:54
  But that Iowa. Iowa.
• 29:56
  Is going to do. That be refreshing.
• 29:58
  Sam. Hey, how about how about if they
• 30:00
  have a guy who throws for just over 2000 yards in the season,
• 30:03
  which hadn't happened. Nate Stanley was playing in the
• 30:06
  playing in the football. What?
• 30:08
  Unbelievable. Is it truly?
• 30:09
  What did Circa put out a few years ago for points?
• 30:12
  Oh. Is the point.
• 30:12
  It was the drive for 325, Yeah, unbelievable. 25 points per game
• 30:17
  and then they put it out again last year and Iowa surpassed it.
• 30:22
  Yes, Tim Lester, yes, absolutely.
• 30:25
  Hey, question for you on the recruiting front.
• 30:26
  So George Nahas, kid that saw a ton of his games at Darling was
• 30:30
  a walk on at Iowa State. Now he's going to be a walk on
• 30:33
  at Iowa. Walk ONS now where I want to go
• 30:37
  and not just Nahas, but the guys that have departed those walk
• 30:40
  ONS for the most part that have left Iowa.
• 30:42
  With parents doing the right thing and giving them a chance.
• 30:45
  How is this going to work? They're already enrolled in
• 30:48
  another school. They've a lot of them went
• 30:50
  through spring practice at another school.
• 30:53
  They're just welcomed back with open arms.
• 30:54
  Do they have to go back in the portal?
• 30:56
  Can you give us any insight into that, Tom?
• 30:59
  I just think all those guys have just moved on.
• 31:02
  If they've moved on to another place, they've moved on.
• 31:04
  Like, you know, my buddy Rusty Van Wetsiga, you know, he just
• 31:09
  he's Central Michigan now and that's just where he's at.
• 31:13
  And I think all these other guys now.
• 31:15
  Is there a chance that somebody who still hasn't found a place
• 31:20
  that they bounce back onto the team?
• 31:22
  Yeah, I think there's potentially that, but I also
• 31:26
  think Iowa has kind of just capped themselves too.
• 31:30
  I think they've kind of gotten from the administration.
• 31:32
  Hey, we're just going to go with one O 5, so let's stay with one
• 31:35
  O 5. And and that's what I think what
• 31:39
  they're going to do is just play with one O 5 this year because
• 31:42
  that's what they've allocated financially for it.
• 31:45
  The books are starting to put on more of them are starting to put
• 31:49
  out to win totals. We'd seen 7 1/2 earlier circa
• 31:52
  back that up there 7 1/2 on I was win total this year when it
• 31:57
  comes to football. Do you have an opinion either
• 31:59
  way, Tom, as you look at it, obviously that back-to-back to
• 32:02
  back home games, home to Penn State, Minnesota and Oregon.
• 32:06
  Yikes Indiana. Before that at home, your
• 32:10
  thoughts on your thoughts on 7 1/2 being the the win total.
• 32:14
  Yeah, I, I could have swore somebody had it out there at 6
• 32:18
  1/2 early day stand to a bit or something.
• 32:20
  I think had about 6 1/2 and it's gotten bet up to 7 1/2 and I, I
• 32:25
  think 7 1/2 is the right number. It's plus money if you go over
• 32:29
  right now over 7 1/2. So I, I think, you know, that's
• 32:33
  the that's the side I would, I would go with.
• 32:36
  But boy, it it's hard road to get.
• 32:39
  They say that it's a, you know, again, to get Oregon and Penn
• 32:44
  State and Iowa City, but it's Oregon and Penn State both going
• 32:48
  to probably be top ten teams. I would think.
• 32:51
  You know, maybe, although I'm not sure how good Dante Moore is
• 32:55
  that's going to be the quarterback at at Oregon.
• 32:58
  I know he's really talented, but you know, he's not Dylan Gabriel
• 33:02
  in terms of experience and proven what he can do.
• 33:05
  So I know at UCLA when he was there for a year, all he did was
• 33:08
  throw interceptions. So yeah, it's going to be, you
• 33:14
  know, Penn State's really good and you know, they got to go to
• 33:16
  Ames, got to go to Wisconsin. I mean, it's there's some,
• 33:22
  there's some I. Think Rutgers arrows pointing
• 33:25
  up. Yeah.
• 33:26
  Gotta go to Nebraska. Nebraska at the end I.
• 33:28
  Think that they're, they're, they're going to be motivated to
• 33:31
  to win for the second time in what, 10 years?
• 33:35
  Something like. I'm Hillary Connor.
• 33:38
  In our final segment, hour number one, Mike Palm, VP of
• 33:41
  Operations at Circa in Las Vegas will join us to kick off hour
• 33:45
  two, Bill Seals on Iowa State trends, plays of the day, circus
• 33:49
  sponsor. Those, those are coming up.
• 33:51
  Bill, Benny, Tom and and Joe Benny, Tom and Bill, the
• 33:56
  tiebreaker. All four of you can give this
• 33:58
  some thought in advance. Total points Nuggets versus OK C
• 34:03
  on Sunday. That will be the tiebreaker to
• 34:05
  be closest without going over. Hello Joe Hello.
• 34:10
  Does an American win the PGA tournament?
• 34:14
  No. The Preakness you can have Group
• 34:16
  A, which is horses 123 and four, or Group B which is horses 5678
• 34:22
  and 9. Which group do you want B for
• 34:25
  you? Indiana Fever 7 1/2 point
• 34:28
  favorite. Yes, the West is back over
• 34:31
  Chicago in the sky tomorrow at 2:00.
• 34:35
  Yep, I'll take fever. I'm on, I'm on the train.
• 34:37
  All right, the Knicks are 2 1/2 point favorite over Boston
• 34:40
  tonight. Oh yeah, I'll take New York.
• 34:43
  And the tiebreaker Joe is total points Nuggets OKC closest
• 34:48
  without going over. 220. Joe, have a good weekend.
• 34:52
  Thank you. You as well.
• 34:53
  Appreciate it. Benny's back.
• 34:56
  We had a rule, but the only one called per show.
• 34:58
  Commissioner Condon, you let. I let him in all right.
• 35:01
  Benny does an American win the PGA.
• 35:04
  Yes. Group A or Group B1 through 4/5
• 35:07
  through 9. Where's journalism?
• 35:10
  In the Group A, I'll take. Group A all.
• 35:12
  Right, you lose the Indiana fever 7 1/2 to the Chicago Sky.
• 35:20
  I'll take the fever. In the next 2 1/2 to the Celtics
• 35:23
  tonight, Benny. I'm I'm just going to take the
• 35:28
  Celtics. All right, Nuggets, OKC total
• 35:31
  points tiebreaker closest without going over. 2/26.
• 35:35
  See you, Benny. Have a good one.
• 35:37
  Thank you, bud. Tom is with Miller and Condon.
• 35:40
  Hi, Tom. Hello.
• 35:42
  Does an American win the PGA tournament?
• 35:45
  No Preakness Group A one through 4 or B5 through 9A.
• 35:52
  Indiana Fever, 7 1/2 point favored over the sky of Chicago.
• 35:56
  I'm going to take the sky and the point all.
• 35:58
  Right Knicks give 2 1/2 to Boston.
• 36:02
  I'll take the Knicks. Nuggets OKC Total points closest
• 36:06
  without going over 215. Thanks Tom.
• 36:11
  Enjoy the weekend and Bill is our final contestant this week
• 36:16
  on the chicken coop giveaway. Hi Bill.
• 36:19
  Hello, does an American win the PGA tournament?
• 36:24
  No Preakness, Group A or Group BB Fever 7 1/2 over the sky.
• 36:33
  We'll go with the fever. Knicks give 2 1/2 to the Celtics
• 36:38
  Celtics, Nuggets OKC Total points closest without going
• 36:42
  over. 212. Bill, thank you very much.
• 36:47
  Thank you. Appreciate it.
• 36:48
  Appreciate the chicken coop. Three locations throughout
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• 36:59
  Here's what I want to watch. I'm anxious to see.
• 37:01
  So we've got Celtics, Knicks tonight.
• 37:04
  We've got OK C Denver on Sunday. Ratings wise, where does that
• 37:09
  little game in the middle of the afternoon on Saturday rank?
• 37:13
  A game one versus playoff games. Women versus men.
• 37:17
  ABC has it. ABC has the.
• 37:20
  The women, yes, you have the rivalry, you have all the pomp
• 37:23
  and circumstance. You have the debut for the
• 37:25
  regular season, you got 1.3 million for a 50 point blowout.
• 37:31
  On a Sunday afternoon. Sunday afternoon on ESPN.
• 37:33
  Now this is ABC broadcast. What's the what was the high
• 37:39
  watermark last year? Do you?
• 37:40
  Remember, no, I don't it. Was at least during the regular
• 37:42
  season. I don't did they get to
• 37:43
  3,000,000 I? Thought it was higher than that.
• 37:44
  OK, highest WNBATV ratings. See if anything pops up from
• 37:52
  last year 54. Let's see, that's going back to
• 37:57
  1997 Mercury. That was in 97 again.
• 38:02
  The All Star game last year had 3.4.
• 38:04
  OK, so maybe it's. They get to 3.
• 38:08
  Is that too much? To ask on a Saturday in May,
• 38:11
  Yeah, but I just want is it, is it, are they, do they get
• 38:14
  crushed? I mean, normally they would, but
• 38:17
  as you mentioned, this is the rivalry and.
• 38:19
  PGA is potentially going to stink.
• 38:22
  It's going to be awful. Some rivalry baseball, but in
• 38:26
  the grand scheme of things, that's regional stuff.
• 38:29
  There's 100 and. 60 big number. It's going to be a big number.
• 38:32
  Big number. Yeah, absolutely.
• 38:34
  All right. Hour 2 is coming up next.
• 38:36
  We'll head to Vegas, see if what kind of action Mike Palm thinks
• 38:40
  we'll get on that one and the West this year, those topics and
• 38:43
  more. And then Bill Seals on Iowa
• 38:45
  State. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
• 38:48
  Network.