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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 5-15-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: He's the Sean O'Connell Show, brought to you by Big
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  Speaker 1: Willis on Utah's number one sports talk and home of
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  Speaker 1: the ESPN seven ninety.
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  Speaker 2: Two one Half Am, a proud part of.
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  Speaker 1: Utah's ESPN Radio Network.
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  Speaker 3: Havey Fridday, everybody, Welcome to the Shan O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully you're having a good Friday.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe you're cutting out early, watch a little PGA championship.
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  Speaker 3: You know where is a great place to take in
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  Speaker 3: the golf if you can't go to aronom Ink, which
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  Speaker 3: They've got a pool haul for when you get a
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  Speaker 3: little bit bored of watching.
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  Speaker 2: Scottie Scheffler choke away this turn just kid. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if Scotty's gonna recover or not.
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  Speaker 3: In any case, Big Willies is always the right place
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  Speaker 3: for you to watch any of your favorite sports. You've
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  Speaker 3: got some NBA basketball playoffs on tonight that you can
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  Speaker 3: check out down there at seventeen seventeen South Main. Chances
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  Speaker 3: are several of you were there last night. For the
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  Speaker 3: closeout game for the Las Vegas Golden Knights. Holy goodness,
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  Speaker 3: I thought that that was gonna end up being a
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  Speaker 3: much better series than it was. And look credit to
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  Speaker 3: credit to Anaheim for stealing a couple of games Vegas.
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  Speaker 3: I'm still not convinced now that they've advanced to the
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  Speaker 3: Western Conference Final, I'm still not one hundred percent convinced
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  Speaker 3: that they can dethrone the mighty Colorado Avalanche. But they
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  Speaker 3: did to Anaheim. The Vegas Knights did what they did
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  Speaker 3: to Utah Mammoth. They saw a slightly faster, slightly more
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  Speaker 3: skilled team and they said, you know what, We're not
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  Speaker 3: going to let them get into their game. We're not
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  Speaker 3: going to let them impose any kind of speed on
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  Speaker 3: us and pose any kind of skill advantage over us.
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  Speaker 3: We're not going to let them move through the neutral
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  Speaker 3: zone comfortably and fast. We're going to harass and harangue
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  Speaker 3: them when they're in their own zone on our for check.
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  Speaker 3: And then when we get into the neutral zone, we're
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  Speaker 3: going to be poking the puck away and we're not
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  Speaker 3: going to allow them to possess and to build any
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  Speaker 3: kind of system.
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  Speaker 2: And that's exactly how it worked.
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  Speaker 3: And a big reason why it worked that way is
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  Speaker 3: because in last night's game, Mitch Marner, who was one
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  Speaker 3: of the most important acquisitions in Las Vegas Golden Knights
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  Speaker 3: franchise history, which is really saying something.
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  Speaker 2: Mitch Marner scored with a minute into the game.
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  Speaker 3: Beautiful, beautiful nastiness, just juking a defender and then the
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  Speaker 3: goaltender out of his shorts. Carter Hart, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: last night, I don't know how many games I've watched
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  Speaker 3: in the last couple of years, especially of NHL, but
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  Speaker 3: especially like going back my whole life, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: how many times I have seen a goaltender's mask fly
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  Speaker 3: off in a game. It's a rare occurrence for obvious reasons.
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  Speaker 3: Those things are incredibly secure. Twice in the same game,
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  Speaker 3: second period, first and then in the third period, he
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  Speaker 3: ripped off his own helmet.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: While Vanheim Ducks had the puck in the offensive zone,
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  Speaker 3: car hearts skate broke. The skate blade comes flying off,
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  Speaker 3: so he's one footed and he's trying to signal to
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  Speaker 3: the referee. He's trying to signal, hey, hey, hey, hey hey,
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  Speaker 3: because you know an equipment fault. It's it's a stoppage.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of the same thing as when the goal
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  Speaker 3: itself the standard gets blasted off its moorings and they
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  Speaker 3: have to reset things. And the way that he decided
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  Speaker 3: to grab the attention was to pull his own mask
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  Speaker 3: off and wave it around. And an unfortunate scenario, you
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  Speaker 3: could have incorrect timing.
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  Speaker 2: On that, and I'm sure he read where the puck was.
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  Speaker 3: But he gets a delay a game penalty as a result,
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  Speaker 3: and we all got to learn if he were watching
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  Speaker 3: how quickly they can replace a skate blade in modern
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  Speaker 3: NHL hockey.
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  Speaker 4: That's a little given that it should be a stoppage anyway.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's a tough penalty.
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  Speaker 2: To give. That's a tough penalty to take.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like, yes, but also like he lost the
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  Speaker 3: he's lost the blade on his skate, and yes, the
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  Speaker 3: referee is supposed to notice an equipment malfunction, but like,
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  Speaker 3: remember what Veggie lost his paddle when his stick is gone.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's not that's not the type of thing
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  Speaker 4: where it should be stopped anyway, right, That's we're talking
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  Speaker 4: about helmet flying off a skate coming loose like that.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know if yes, I understand you did.
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  Speaker 4: You technically delayed caused a delay a game by by
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  Speaker 4: taking off your helmet and waving it around, But you
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  Speaker 4: were only doing that to alert the refs of of
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  Speaker 4: what should already be a stoppage. I don't know that's
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  Speaker 4: because that's a that's a four on five they had
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  Speaker 4: that they had to take because of that. That's tough,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like. But they they won anyway, so they
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  Speaker 4: were five to one at the time. I'm sure they
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  Speaker 4: didn't care as much as I'm caring about it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay, here, so this is this is why he
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  Speaker 3: decided to take the penalty. According to NHL Rule fourteen
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  Speaker 3: point one, play continues despite equipment issues. The honesses on
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  Speaker 3: the player to get to the bench. The exception is
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  Speaker 3: if a goaltender's mask comes off, creating a safety hazard,
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  Speaker 3: So a skate, so.
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  Speaker 4: A blade on the ice isn't a safety hazard. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: that's so wed, I don't whatever they like.
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  Speaker 3: If it wass a blade, they're expected to hobble to
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  Speaker 3: the bench or continue playing, similar to a broken stick.
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  Speaker 3: But if you're the goaltender and you can't move in
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  Speaker 3: the crease anymore because you have purchase on one side
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  Speaker 3: and not the other. The way that you stop plays
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  Speaker 3: you pull your mask off because that is a safety hazard.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what Carter Heart did earlier. It was his
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  Speaker 3: own defenseman. It was Hannafin battling. I can't remember which
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  Speaker 3: duck was in front of him, but they're battling, you know,
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  Speaker 3: battling for the puck in front of the net, and
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  Speaker 3: he ends up his stick ends up hooking underneath the
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  Speaker 3: chin guard the throat guard of Carter Hart and his
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  Speaker 3: he you know, keeps going up and just rips the
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  Speaker 3: helmet off, and I was like, whoa, you don't see
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  Speaker 3: that very often. And then we saw we don't see
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  Speaker 3: goltenders faces very often.
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  Speaker 2: He's not twice in one game.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, the manner in which he was
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  Speaker 3: able to scoot himself off the ice. It's just one
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  Speaker 3: thing that you get reminded of with with hockey players
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  Speaker 3: is just how how much hockey these guys have played.
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  Speaker 3: Like all of them know how to play without a stick.
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  Speaker 3: It's obviously not ideal, but everyone in the NHL knows
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  Speaker 3: how to play without a.
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  Speaker 4: Stick except for goaltender's apparently well so rare.
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  Speaker 2: But we see broken sticks all the time.
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  Speaker 3: You see guys lose a stick all the time, and
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  Speaker 3: you you know, you watched them, and you're just like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 3: So he still knows how to make himself at least
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  Speaker 3: like fifty effective.
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  Speaker 2: Important stool tool in the game. He knows how to
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  Speaker 2: body check someone. You don't need to stick for that. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: And watching Carter Hart scoot himself like you know when
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  Speaker 3: when babies crawl.
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  Speaker 2: Funny, I think you and I have talked about.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the boy right now, my boy right now crawls
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  Speaker 4: with one leg and his other leg like it works
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  Speaker 4: in all other contexts, but when he's crawling, he's got
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  Speaker 4: it like stuck underneath him.
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  Speaker 2: It's the cutest thing ever.
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  Speaker 3: That is exactly what Carter Hart did to get Maybe
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  Speaker 3: he was watching your nanny cam or something, because he's
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  Speaker 3: he just puts his knee on the ice, which of
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  Speaker 3: course is he's got these huge blockers on his knee, right,
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  Speaker 3: and then he uses the other skating just and slides
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  Speaker 3: himself over to the bench. They put the blade back on.
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  Speaker 3: He takes the penalty, which, of course, when a goaltender
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  Speaker 3: takes a penalty, somebody else skates off the ice.
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  Speaker 2: The goaltender gets to stay in any case.
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  Speaker 4: Or yeah, yeah, you should have to put in your backup.
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  Speaker 4: But that's right. The guy who takes the penalty should
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  Speaker 4: be in the penalty box. But like I said, I
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  Speaker 4: think I think I'm probably more concerned about how that
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  Speaker 4: was officiated than the Knights were given. Like what you said,
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  Speaker 4: they were up five to one and barely any time left.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think there's only so much John Twittorallican protest
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  Speaker 3: when his goltender pulled his own mask.
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  Speaker 2: Off, right, it's it. I don't know. I think they should.
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  Speaker 4: I think cop whatever the NHL calls it, their rules committee,
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  Speaker 4: you know, in the NFL we call it.
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  Speaker 2: They call it competition committee. Whatever that is.
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  Speaker 4: They should probably look at Hey, when there's a when
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  Speaker 4: there's a really sharp razor blade on the ice, maybe
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  Speaker 4: that should be an automatic stoppage too. When there's a
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  Speaker 4: six inch long shot of hardened steel, a literal dagger
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  Speaker 4: without a without a handle on the ice.
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  Speaker 2: Not a safety hazard.
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  Speaker 4: Guy play just when the helmets are off, even though
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  Speaker 4: they played without helmets for fifty years.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever, well skategate Nott was standing. The important thing in
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  Speaker 3: this series is that Vegas has moved on. They've closed
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  Speaker 3: out their series. We now have a Western Conference Finals matchup.
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  Speaker 3: You can also go see that at Big Willies. You
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  Speaker 3: can listen to that. Where can people listen to that?
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  Speaker 2: James?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So Western Conference finals set, Eastern Conference Final is
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  Speaker 4: about to be set, potentially tomorrow night. We'll have game
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  Speaker 4: six of the Canadians and Sabers, potential closeout game tomorrow
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  Speaker 4: night at five point thirty. If there's a game seven,
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  Speaker 4: I believe that'll be Monday, and we'll have that on
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  Speaker 4: the station if that's the case. But we're home of
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  Speaker 4: every game of the Eastern and Western Conference Finals here
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  Speaker 4: on the station and the Stanley Cup Finals. The Western
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  Speaker 4: Conference Final will begin Wednesday the twentieth. Next Wednesday, the
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  Speaker 4: Eastern either Tuesday if the series ends tomorrow or Thursday
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  Speaker 4: if the series ends in after seven games. So we'll
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  Speaker 4: have every game with conference finals some NBA as we
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  Speaker 4: as we can. If we're not able to clear the
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  Speaker 4: NBA games, those will be on the other, our other
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  Speaker 4: station on the network, ESPN The Fan one of three
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  Speaker 4: nine ninety eight three FM.
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  Speaker 3: On the show Today, Bill Riley, voice of the Utes,
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  Speaker 3: joins us Tony Jones. We intended on catching up with
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  Speaker 3: Tony Jones a little earlier in the week. Schedules made
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  Speaker 3: it so we get to him here on a Friday,
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  Speaker 3: looking forward to that conversation.
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  Speaker 2: We've got our airing of grievances.
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  Speaker 3: We're bumping it up to one o'clock because Paul Pugmyer
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  Speaker 3: could only join us at one point thirty. We'll talk
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  Speaker 3: golf with Paul Pugmyer and uh update you on the
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  Speaker 3: PGA Tour leader board throughout the show.
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  Speaker 4: What a lot going on. By the way, you got
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  Speaker 4: you got a mate golf major. We were about to
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  Speaker 4: be in the conference finals for both NBA and Stanley
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  Speaker 4: Cup playoffs like this a lot to pay attention to,
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  Speaker 4: a ton of ton to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: Great time of year for us.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, May in early June or actually I think a
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  Speaker 3: little underrate for sports. And obviously there's an absence of
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  Speaker 3: NFL and college football, which we schedule release though well,
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  Speaker 3: if you're paying attention to to social media, especially the
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  Speaker 3: schedule release for the NFL is absolutely it's it's fantastic,
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  Speaker 3: and a bunch of teams did a really great job.
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  Speaker 3: A bunch of teams are justifiably being criticized for not
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  Speaker 3: putting the requisite amount of effort into it. The Tennessee
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  Speaker 3: Titans social media team is just awesome. They're going all
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  Speaker 3: the way back to was It twenty twenty three? Their
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  Speaker 3: video where they were showing people who are not football
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  Speaker 3: fans the logos the Lightning McQueen Lady.
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  Speaker 2: That one is still the goat.
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  Speaker 3: That one is still the best schedule release video that
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  Speaker 3: we have ever seen.
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  Speaker 4: It's like Jimmy Jimmy Kimmel and maybe other late night
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  Speaker 4: hosts have done have done that, like who's this guy?
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  Speaker 4: And they're like, is that Mickey Mouse?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: The Man on the Street comedy is some of my
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  Speaker 3: favorite stuff, and actually, Magician on the Street Comedy is
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  Speaker 3: also some of my favorite stuff. Like David Blaine just
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  Speaker 3: showing up in random neighborhoods and blowing people's minds.
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  Speaker 4: And you have that parody YouTube channel that I binged
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  Speaker 4: in high school.
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  Speaker 3: What the f David Blaine? I don't think I saw
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  Speaker 3: that make fun of him. I don't think I ever
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  Speaker 3: saw that. But even the ones that people didn't love,
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  Speaker 3: I loved some of the ones people loved.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, like, the La Chargers have.
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  Speaker 3: An elite reputation with these schedule release videos and they
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  Speaker 3: paid a lot of attention to detail.
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  Speaker 2: I don't. I didn't play Halo. I never played Halo.
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  Speaker 3: They have a Halo themed schedule release video this year
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  Speaker 3: that I imagine if you are among the ninety percent
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  Speaker 3: of twenty five to fifty year old males, you played
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  Speaker 3: Halo at some point in your life. I'm sure you
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  Speaker 3: loved that video. I'm sure that really resonated with you.
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  Speaker 3: I never played Halo, so I was just like, ah,
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  Speaker 3: but you can still find the clever little easter eggs
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  Speaker 3: in there.
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  Speaker 2: They i think, were the only team that threw a.
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  Speaker 3: Little bit of a little bit of a tiny, little
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  Speaker 3: subtle jab at the Patriots with the Mike Rabel Diana
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  Speaker 3: Rossini thing.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a little surprised the Titans didn't go there, given
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  Speaker 4: that they they he's no longer the Titans head coach,
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  Speaker 4: but he's still Rabel's still known as being part of
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  Speaker 4: that franchise in a lot of ways.
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  Speaker 3: I think if it had better fit the theme that
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  Speaker 3: they went with, which was lookalike. Yeah, you know what
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  Speaker 3: they should have would have been really messed up is
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  Speaker 3: they just posted Diana Rossini's husband as the Mike Rabel
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  Speaker 3: looked alike ooh, yeah, that would have It's like a
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  Speaker 3: little too far. I'm sure that was in the brainstorming session,
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  Speaker 3: and there there's people be.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, w NFL.
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  Speaker 3: The NFL's official stance was, we are not gonna vet
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  Speaker 3: people's schedule release videos.
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  Speaker 2: We are not gonna double check.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna leave it to the creativity and the discretion
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  Speaker 3: of these teams.
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  Speaker 2: Trust their teams to decide whether or not.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I think the right thing to do
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  Speaker 3: is what everyone did. It either ignored it or were
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  Speaker 3: like pretty harmless with their references to it. There's like
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  Speaker 3: a New York Post thing for the Halo release and
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of like in the background. Okay, there's a
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  Speaker 3: there's a playlist reference in the credits, all right, So
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  Speaker 3: you really have to be digging and it's not like
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  Speaker 3: right in your face.
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  Speaker 2: Like my suggestion would have been.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe with the name tag that says Mike maybe somewhere.
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  Speaker 4: That's a little bit too on the nose.
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  Speaker 3: It's a little too on the nose, especially given the
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  Speaker 3: most the most recent question and controversy surrounding that whole thing.
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  Speaker 4: But I probably should have hit the dump button right
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  Speaker 4: after I said that no.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think we're gonna alienate too many Patriots fans
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  Speaker 3: out here in Salt Lake City. But you know, the
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  Speaker 3: NFL is such a tight circle that if you're the
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  Speaker 3: guy or the gal who is behind the video making
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  Speaker 3: like on the nose fun of Mike Rabel, at some
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  Speaker 3: point he might be the reason you don't get a job.
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  Speaker 3: So you gotta be careful about burning those bridges.
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  Speaker 4: Even with these creative teams people for sure, absolutely they
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  Speaker 4: obviously being in at least in anonymous graces with if not,
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  Speaker 4: if not really good grace is with all the head
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  Speaker 4: coaches is probably really.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of like an offensive lineman.
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  Speaker 3: A head coach is never going to pay attention to
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  Speaker 3: the social media, the graphics person or whatever a coach.
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  Speaker 3: A head coach is never even gonna know that name
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  Speaker 3: unless you do something wrong or in their eyes wrong, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're yeah, be careful, Yeah, you're never.
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  Speaker 3: Mike Rabel is never gonna know the name of the
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  Speaker 3: Patriots schedule release person unless the Patriots schedule release person
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  Speaker 3: put something bad or the Titans schedule release person would
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  Speaker 3: be a more accurate.
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  Speaker 4: What what would have been really ballsy and I would
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  Speaker 4: have been here for it as if the Patriots had
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  Speaker 4: made fun of.
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  Speaker 3: Rabel situation, a little self deprecation would have gone a
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  Speaker 3: long way here. And I encourage you go watch all
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  Speaker 3: of them, Like there's a bunch of different websites who've
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  Speaker 3: compiled all of them.
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  Speaker 2: Go watch all of them, or.
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  Speaker 4: Just you know at New England Patriots at Lharters on
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  Speaker 4: social media.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure you'll be able to find them in all that.
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  Speaker 3: Any NFL team has it on their official social media feed. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: the New York Giants. No one's talking about that one.
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  Speaker 3: That was funny Jameis Winston. It was sponsored by pictionary.
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  Speaker 3: Jameis Winston went out and was drawing like clues to
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  Speaker 3: get people to guess. And Jameis Winston is absolutely hilarious
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  Speaker 3: and the guesses are absolutely hilarious. No, I haven't heard
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  Speaker 3: anyone else talking about that one. I really love that one.
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  Speaker 4: Jameis Winston needs to become the Charles Barkley of NFL media.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely when like it's like now because he's not really playing,
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  Speaker 4: but like any time he decides he doesn't want to
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  Speaker 4: be on the team and holding a clipboard, he absolutely
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  Speaker 4: needs to be.
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  Speaker 2: That needs to be his next career.
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  Speaker 3: The thing about Charles Barkley that makes him successful and
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  Speaker 3: the thing about Jameis Winston that would make him successful
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  Speaker 3: in media is that he's.
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  Speaker 2: In on the bit.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Charles Barkley is comfortable laughing at himself.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Right. Did you watch the Comedy Central roast of Kevin Hart?
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: No?
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I missed it?
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Or have you watched the most recent episodes of Inside
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: the NBA when Draymond Green was filling in.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Draymond's not in on that.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Draymond's not in on the bit. He can't laugh at himself.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: He's not cool, he's not nice, he's not funny.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: Like maybe he will be someday when he's not a player.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I believe that, but he's not
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: But Jameis Winston knows that he's being like he amplifies
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: his personality, which is already pretty like loquacious and wild.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: He amplifies it for the cameras another however many percent,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: and he by doing so, he signifies to us that
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: he's in on the bit, that he knows, and that
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: he knows that he's trying to get a laugh. He's
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: being the class clown, like he's the lovable jock who
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: probably got bad grades but made the teacher laugh so
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: he passed, you know what I mean?
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Like that, Jameis Winston has.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Been in this role for how long before we knew him,
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: I imagine, and he's awesome at it.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: So the Giants did a great one.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: The Jets one is actually a lot more clever than
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: anyone gave it credit for. I'm actually gonna quiz you
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: on the Jets schedule release, James. I hope you didn't
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: see the notes that I put in. I did not
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: see them. I'm not looking at them right now. But
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: the main point of the schedule release videos being a
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: topic of conversation on virtually every sports talk.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Show today has very little. I mean, the creative teams.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Do a good job, and good for them, But what
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: it is is it's the NFL eventizing every single thing
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: they do, keeping themselves relevant every single month of the year.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: If it's not free agency, it's the draft. If it's
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: not the draft, it's the combine. If it's not the combine,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: it's a trade deadline. If it's not any of those things,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: it's a bunch of graphics on a social media platform.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Randing Camp is another one that they've made an event
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: which is like what should be super boring for us,
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: but they've made it a big deal because they have
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: a reporter giving you updates every day.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: On it is the It's the reason why the NFL
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: and why football by extension has become America's pastime. Why
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: at leapfrogged over baseball fifty years ago, Why at leapfrogs
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: and and stays ahead of basketball because the NFL. And
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: I don't I guess you give Commissioner's credit first and foremost.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but at some point there was clearly.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: A decision made that the NFL was going to make
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: us care about everything, make it feel like a massive event.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: And as college football tries to figure out a way
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: to survive, as different programs in different conferences especially try
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: to figure out a way to maintain relevance and to
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: keep themselves in the front of mind and all that stuff,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: as professional franchises like the Utah Jazz and the Washington
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Wizards and some of these other kind of bottom dwellers,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: hire somebody who worked for the NFL.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Hire somebody who at least is a massive.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: NFL fan and just say, try to capture an iota
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: of this magic, like just a tiny little piece of it,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: and I get it. That would be some criticism while
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: you're just copying the NFL. You know what I want now,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: James from the Big twelve all the time.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I want this. I want the Big twelve office.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: I want Brett or Mark to make a phone call
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: and say, look, you've got a campus full of creative filmmakers,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: graphic designers, video gamers, whatever. I want a schedule release
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: video like you're in the NFL. I want that, Utah,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I want that like BYU, go ahead and poke fun
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: at yourself. You know what the BYU one should be, James.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: It's the easiest one in the world. It's a mission
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: call for every single week. Absolutely you will.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: You are assigned to serve in the Texas Fort Worth
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: TCU campus.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: And of course you have the family be like you
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: haven't you had assigned to labor in the Salt Lake
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: City rice Ecles mission and then everyone just oh no, no,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: and the missionary say I'm not going or whatever, right
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: like you're welcome. B Why you're expected to serve it?
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: You expect to serve a term of one week whatever.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: We've seen this from from NFL schedule release videos. They
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: just throw like the famous food from that city on
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: a plate and they say, this is where you're going.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: That could be that you could just have a big
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: vat of fry sauce, fry sauce for Salt Lake Skyline chili.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: You could have a cougar barbecuegartail or Graham Canyon for BYU.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: You know how cool a Utah schedule release video with
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: a giant cougartail right November ninth, cougartail and a big
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: old red cleaver chops it in half.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Yes, with it with as you said, dipping it in
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: in jelly. Jelly flies out of it. It's just it's
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: a jelly filled cougartail.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: It's just like it's bleeding, I mean I And the
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: thing is, does it actually change a dang thing for
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: your football team, for your conference?
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Is there a concrete like will it bring in more revenue?
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Will it give you better access to the college football
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Playoff in the short term? Obviously not? But you know
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: what it does. It makes people think about you and
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: talk about you. And there is this subliminal effect in
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: sports that we I think fail to appreciate how important
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: it is. The Dallas Cowboys are talked about NonStop. I
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: can't stand the Cowboys, Okay, I have never once rooted
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: for anything that the Dallas Cowboys do. We go, We're
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: going again to Big twelve media days at a Dallas
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Cowboys facility.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't even like being here.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: You know why I have that like visceral reaction to it,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: because it's always there because I am forced to think
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: about them, and I don't like them.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: So my reaction action is the ultimate negative.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Right, But I'm paying attention because love and or hate
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: they're equally passionate feelings on the opposite ends of the
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: same spectrum.
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: The NFL makes you think and talk about the NFL
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: even when you don't realize you have any interest thinking
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: and talking about the NFL like a viral schedule release video.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Doesn't change whether or not you're gonna win games, doesn't
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: change whether or not you're gonna get invited to the
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: College Football Playoff, doesn't change whether or not your team
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: is gonna figure things out in a year where you
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: have a brand new head coach for the first time
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: in twenty one years, But especially for the Big twelve conference,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: especially for the ACC conference. You have to find a
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: way to make people talk about you and think about you.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: And it's much better if it's in a positive light.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: And even if they're just like, well this is just
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: copying the NFL. Okay, fine, But was it creative?
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Was it fun? Did you spend fun minutes watching it?
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: And do you now know a little bit more about
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: the Utah BYU rivalry? Do you now know a little
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: bit more about who Texas Tech is going to be
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: playing in Week one? Well, the answer is probably yes,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: And that is something the NFL has absolutely perfected in
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: a way that not only other sports leagues have and
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: other sports entities have it. I don't know that other
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: businesses are even capable of this. I don't think about
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Coca Cola non stop. Coca Cola doesn't like event ties.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: What happens when they release a new flavor? It shows
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: up in your grocery store.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're just like, oh, weird, maybe a commercial.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: I wonder if the coconut cream diet coke is good?
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: And then you buy it and just because you're like, eh,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: there's there's some reputational equity. In my mind, about I
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: usually like the taste of the things that they put
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: out there. Oreos. I'm a big time Oreos guy. I'm
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: a big time alternate flavor Oreos guy. You know what
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: happens when they release an alternate flame James Nothing, They
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: just put it on the shelves in the store. Do
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: you know how much cooler would be if they eventized
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: every one of those things? The Winter Classic that I
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: just bought tickets for yesterday, do you know why they
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: can charge five and seventy dollars per ticket to a
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: row forty six seat.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: That's very specific that you know that price like that, Os.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: But do you know why they were able to do
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: that and why they've continually been able to do that
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: in every market, in every city every year, because they
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: turned the Winter Classic into a special event.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, just within the within the NFL schedule release
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: you have, they've added another day of Thanksgiving week football.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: We we now have pre Thanksgiving football, we have post
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: Thanksgiving football with Black Friday, and of course we still
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: have Sunday like it's they've.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: It turns out what we actually want as sports fans
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: and as Americans especially is we just want events.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I my something to feel big, something to feel cool.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: My best friend's little sister, Missy Moss, You're the Best,
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: wrote a book about the Saint George Marathon and lessons
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: that she learned running the Saint George Marathon. And there's
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: a chapter in there called silver Balloons. Apparently on the
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Saint George Marathon route there are silver balloons marking the
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: miles or whatever, and this chapter in her book is
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: about how you need things to look forward to. The
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: metaphor is obvious right for her running the marathon seeing
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: one of those silver balloons, ment, oh my gosh, I
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: just crossed off another mile.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: This is amazing all of us in our daily lives.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Man, I really needed carrot to dangle in front of myself.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: I got six more weeks of work until I go
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: on that Disneyland vacation. Or maybe you're dreading the Disneyland vacation,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: because why wouldn't you, Like I really need the the
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: boys trip that happens, the golf trip I'm taking two
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: weeks after the Disneyland vacation or whatever.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Right, you need these little carrots.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: And the NFL has figured it out, They've formulized it,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: they've made it official. Where it's just like, here are
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: your milestones, here are your events. It is the super Bowl,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: and then we don't even take a break after the
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: super Bowl. It's like, now, let's get ready for the combine. Now,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: let's get ready for the draft. Now, let's get ready
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: for the free agency windows. Now let's get ready for
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: the schedule release day.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Which is just social media posts.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: And here we are loving it, hating it, but thinking
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: about it, talking about it. Copycat this Brett, your Mark
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: and Big twelve and President Randall Mark Harlin just shamelessly
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: copy it. Maybe by you will make fun of you
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: for it, but you will be the one talked about.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Maybe it could be something kind of thievery themed one.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: We'll just I'll just leave that there. I'll say this too.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: On the Dan Patrick Show, Rich Eisen flew out to
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: uh wherever in the Milford, Connecticut where the where the
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: man Cave is for Dan Patrick. He flew out because
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: he's doing a series of interviews of former Sports center
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: anchors a podcast for ESPN, and so he was he
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: was in person on the Dan Patrick Show today and
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: Dan asked him like, why why is this an event?
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: And Rich said, Rich, obviously, mister NFL Network super excited
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: to answer the question. He's like, because we launched NFL
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: Network and we had nothing, We had nothing to get
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: people in, to get people interested to keep watching football
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: after like we launched the day after the super Bowl,
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: the Janet Jackson super Bowl.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, And he's we had we.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Had nothing to keep people, no reason to keep people
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: interested in continue going to watch football other than they
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: still had the combine in that's and the draft pre
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: draft process and stuff. But it wasn't like it was today.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: And he said, we decided, especially after the draft, we
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: needed something to keep people interested in football. And so
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: he he and his team and NFL Network. I'm sure
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: the Commissioner's office had had a role in it as well.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: They kind of take he took credit for Yay, we
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: made this an event and it's become even like bigger
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: than it's ever been over the last few years.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Here with social media.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: How many millions of impressions and the the currency of
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: the day is attention. How many millions of impressions and
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: engagements is the NFL and its individual franchises getting because
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: of that idea from Rich Eisen and his crew. I
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: mean millions millions, and the dollars come with those millions
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: of impressions.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: They did this in the summer of two thousand and four,
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: so well before social media was a thing, So they
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: did not have envisioned what this has become for social media,
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: and yet that's what it's.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: That's what it's turned into, a big social media event.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: All right, we got to take a break. Bill Riley,
• 32:11
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• 32:13
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• 33:01
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• 33:08
  Speaker 3: The schedule release videos in the NFL get a lot
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: of play, a lot of love, a lot of conversation.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: How did your Chiefs do it? In your mind?
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: I didn't watch any of the others. I was calling
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: baseball last night. Big win for the youth Soilver Baylor
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: in Game one, So I didn't see any anything really
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: in real time and not being on social media anymore,
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: I don't get inundated with them. I watched the Chiefs.
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: I thought they did pretty well. I'm a big Rob
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: Wriggle fan. I thought they did a little throwback to
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: the old QVC days. I thought it was pretty funny.
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: Did you watch that one?
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: I did? I liked.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: I liked qv Chiefs and the sort of like resentment tension,
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: comedic resentment between the host, the Rob Wriggle host that
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: his ex wife, who was the Gail was It was good.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: It was a good little bit. I liked it.
• 33:58
  Speaker 7: I thought they did pretty well. I know the Chargers
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: always have a really good social media department. Did you
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: see the Chargers? Did they do well with theirs? They
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: always do pretty well, the Chargers. I I did see
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: a little bit of Peyton Manning. I watched like ten
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: a minute and a half, it wasn't good. I didn't
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: think the Broncos did. I like Peyton Manning. His daughter
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: was cute. I thought the video was not very well
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: executed in the ninety or so seconds before I shut
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: it off.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: The only one that I liked in the Denver Broncos
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: was they had Jake Plumber as like a conspiracy show host.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: And that is perfect because for any of you out there,
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: I mean it's a deep cut, but for any of
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: you out there, Jake Plumber, the longtime Cardinals quarterback.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Is now a shrooms farmer.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: He grows psychedelic mushrooms, so of course he would be
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: the guy hosting a conspiracy television series.
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: So that's right on brand, right on brand for Plumber.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty good stuff.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: The Chargers one is Halo themed, like the video game Halo,
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: and as such is a little bit lost on me,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Like there's some clever Easter eggs in it. The forty
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: nine Ers level, for example, is you have to escape
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: the sub the electrical substation that is hurting everyone in practice.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: So I like that. I like the nod to some
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: of those storylines.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: But I never played Halo because you know, I got
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: out of video games.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: But anyway.
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: Good.
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I was always I was a sports video game guy,
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: Tiger Woods, Madden Baseball.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: I didn't do the shooter games.
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: They didn't do any of that stuff.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, So we were talking about, like the reason he's
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: irrelevant is not because, I mean it partially because the
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: creative teams with these NFL franchises are so good at
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: their jobs, but also because the NFL has more than
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: anyone else in sports. They've eventized their calendar. They've made
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: it a big deal no matter what they're doing. I mean,
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: guess what, everyone, this is the team that's going to
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: be on season fifty seven of Hard Knocks debate, and
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: it's is okay, like we just do it. We do
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: what the NFL tells us. And they have eventized everything
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: in sports. Is it something that the Big Twelve could
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: potentially capture is that they're not the first movers on it?
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Could you copycat it at Utah football? Could you copy
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: cat it in the Big Twelve and catch even a
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: little bit of the same kind of enthusiasm and conversation.
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: I'm surprised, Brett, your Mark hasn't tried to do that,
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: because he's always right out front and trying to be
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: cutting edge, even if some of it falls short with
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: you know, football games in Dubai and things like that.
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: I don't know that that's necessarily going to catch on,
• 36:44
  Speaker 7: but I think it'd be great because nobody else really
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: does it, and the NFL makes a I mean, we
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: know what the NFL. I mean, they make the drafted event,
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: the schedule, really everything is a huge event. I think
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: you could have some fun. You get the league together,
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: get everybody on the same page, and have a fun
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: scalede you're released you I think you can as some
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: fun with it.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: So we're in the the only dark time right now
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: for college football, where you know, everyone's finishing up school,
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: they're keeping their head down, they're lifting, they're developing.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: The strength.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Coaches are arguably the most important person on a football
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: staff this time of year, and obviously a change was
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: made at the University of Utah in that department. But
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: you know, with the new bodies that have come in
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: and with some of the guys that we talked about
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: during springball, who do you think makes the most growth
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: this time of year? Who did you watch in springball
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: and say, man, that's going to be a great player.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: But they need ten more pounds of muscle on him,
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: or I need that guy to go to speed school
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: and get that first step a little bit quicker, which,
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: of course, is the work that's being done this time
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: of year.
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: I think it's probably the interior guys. I think it's
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: probably the lineman, you know, the guys that were transferred
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: for maybe smaller programs or a different level program, or
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: the offensive linemen that are new to the program. I
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: think it's probably those guys. I think the guys on
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: the outside, the receivers, the corners, guys like that, they're
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: already pretty good athletes. I think it's more learning playbook
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: and scheme with those guys. I think if you're coming
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: from say Wyoming or San Jose State, or Utah State
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: or North Texas, I think you're probably pretty good at
• 38:21
  Speaker 7: what you do, but you're leveling up in physicality and
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: competition playing in a power for school. So I think
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: those guys probably using a little bit more time in
• 38:30
  Speaker 7: the weight room and with the strength and conditioning coaches,
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: they probably benefit the most.
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: Would you agree?
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: I agree?
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: And you know, like you get this big five start
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Kelvin Obot, He's already got an impressive body, but Kelvin
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Obot is in that time of life with a great
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: lifting program and good nutrition which of course Chet Peteon
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: company up there at the facility. Make sure you have
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: all the time we could see him the last time
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: we saw him, you know, spring showcase to fall camp.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: That could be like ten or fifteen pounds of muscle
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: on somebody with his frame. So I'm eager to see
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: what they can do. Ji moy is another guy, like
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: you said, great player, great technique, but he's going to
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: have to be physically stronger to play in the Big
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: twelve than in the Mountwest Conference.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: So I think you hit that one on the head.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: You got to get these guys to be able to
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: handle the physical riggers of power for football, not just
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: the mental and playbook capacities as well.
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, guy like Ethan Day, he was a really good
• 39:35
  Speaker 7: uber fast athlete at North Texas, had five or so
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: sacks last year. He had a good spring, but he's
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: going to be going against power four level tackles, guys
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: that he wasn't seeing when he was at North Texas.
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: So a little you know, the quickness, sure, he's probably
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: got that, but maybe a little bit stronger in refining
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: that just a little bit as well.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: I saw this from Ross Dellinger just before our conversation started.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: The folks at.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Texas Tech and the NCAA have been informed by Brendan
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Soresby and his legal team that they are going to
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: make a motion for a quick resolution on his upcoming
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: eligibility question because obviously he checked into a rehab facility
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: for a gambling addiction. It was found that he had
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: placed thousands of bets on sports on his own university
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: when he was at Indiana under age betting. I mean,
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: there's like seven different things that he wasn't supposed to
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: be doing in regards to betting that he was doing.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: But they want this to be resolved, presumably before the
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: season starts. Now, I think this is an interesting strategy
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: because if you say, hey, we want a resolution quick,
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: the resolution is probably like, yeah, boom stamp, you can't
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: play idiot. However, I would like your thoughts on the matter.
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: Well, I think he also wants a quick resolution too,
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: because there might be the possibility of the supplement draft
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: for the NFL and getting himself into an NFL camp. Now, now, again,
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: is it the same as being drafted. No, it's not.
• 41:08
  Speaker 7: But he is likely to lose out on five or
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: so million dollars from Tech if he can get in,
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: get signed to a contract, get into a camp. Maybe
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: he expedites that, or maybe it's just I want a resolution.
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: Texas Tech might want a resolution, and then I could
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: begin training toward next year's draft as well. It seems
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: highly unlikely that he's going to play, just based on
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: the evidence that we've seen, and you don't, you know,
• 41:35
  Speaker 7: dambling is a no no, we know that, and the
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: fact that he wasn't just gambling on baseball or basketball.
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: It was his own team, it was college football. I
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: just it seems very unlikely, and I think it's probably
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: good to have a quick resolution for everybody involved him
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: and Texas Tech. He can move on, make his plans,
• 41:54
  Speaker 7: Texas Tech can make their plans and just go from there.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: We have that to you.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: This is Bill Riley, by the way, on the Sean
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: O'Connell shall, the Voice of the Youths. We've not talked
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: to you since the Utah Jazz won the NBA Draft lottery.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: In their own manner.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: Number two is not number one, but number two is
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: higher than the odds, the straight across odds had them picking,
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: and obviously it's a deep draft where you know Darren Peterson,
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: your fellow Kansas Jayhawk, could be available at two. AJ
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Debonza could be available at two. Cam Buzer almost certainly
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: will be available at two. And those are just three
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: of the guys that are considered to be potential franchise
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: changers the Utah Jazz at two do they stay there?
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean I think so. And I know the
• 42:40
  Speaker 7: love of Debonsa because he played at DYU, and I
• 42:44
  Speaker 7: think AJ is a very very good player. But if
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: the medicals all check out with Darren Peterson, to me,
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: Peterson is the best fit for the Utah Jazz. They
• 42:55
  Speaker 7: don't have a high level shooting guard that can be
• 43:00
  Speaker 7: good day one, game one. You pair him with Keante
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: George in the backcourt, and to go with the additions
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: they made in the front court Jaron Jackson, Lowry, Markinen,
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: Walker Kessler, that would give you a ready made starting five.
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: To me, I think Peterson if he's healthy Sean and
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: again we heard all the stories about the CREA team
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: and all that whatever that might.
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: Happen to be.
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: If the Jazz go through all the medicals and he
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: checks out to me, I think he might have a
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: higher upside. Again, this is me watching him a couple
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: of times this year in person, seeing aj as well.
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: But for what the Jazz needed in that league, he
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: is a six to six scoring guard, shooting guard, playmaking
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: guard who can be a ball at hand guy. To
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: that seems to be an immediate impact guy in a
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: league where you need that. I think he would be great.
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: I know there's a love for devonsa. Ryan Smith has
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: a love for Devonsa. He basically funded the aj project
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: be Yu and that's great. And I think if the
• 44:02
  Speaker 7: Jazz for some reason decided to trade up or he
• 44:05
  Speaker 7: fell to them, that's not a bad addition. But to me,
• 44:09
  Speaker 7: Stan pat stay at number two as long as Peterson
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: checks out, and I think you've got a hell of
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: a player.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: I want to make it clear, I'm a big aj
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: De Bounce a fan for all the obvious reasons. I
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: think it's great that he loves the state of Utah,
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: and I think that could be at least a small
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: factor in whatever decision is going to be.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Made by the Utah Jazz here.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: But is it the possibility that you know there was
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: a lot of attention effort, energy, money spent to make
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: sure Aj was a BYU Cougar and that he had
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: a good experience at a prep school in southern Utah.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: And then you know, he came to BYU as the
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: number one recruit in the country and didn't really deliver
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: anything meaningful. I mean, he had a good season, injuries
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: to some of his teammates, luck, et cetera. But is
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: there any any potential scenario in which, like, even though
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: Ryan Smith loves Aj as a person, the basketball version
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: of AJ did not work out to the level. There
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: wasn't the return on investment that by You hoped for,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: not necessarily by AJ's fault, but even seeing that, just
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: saying like, you know what, I think we're good with
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Darren Peterson at two.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: We don't need to make an effort.
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: Well, I think I'm an ajda Bonsa fan too. I
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: don't want to come off as a voice of the
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: huge hating on a by I like him. I love
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: the kid as a player, and to me watching him play,
• 45:34
  Speaker 7: he played with a great effort and enjoy and talent
• 45:37
  Speaker 7: level all year long.
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: By You didn't have it.
• 45:40
  Speaker 7: I mean, their season wasn't what people thought it was
• 45:42
  Speaker 7: going to be, but that was no fault of Ajda Bonsa.
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: I don't think roster construction was great down there, and
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: the Richie Saunders injury sidelined everything. Missing Dawson Baker also
• 45:53
  Speaker 7: hurt them too, So I don't think the season by
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: you had had anything to do with with Ajda Bonsa.
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: I think he gave them everything he had every single night.
• 46:02
  Speaker 7: That kid played four to thirty five to forty minutes
• 46:05
  Speaker 7: a night and was fantastic. I think he's going to
• 46:10
  Speaker 7: be a really, really good pro. I just think if
• 46:13
  Speaker 7: all things are equal, and we don't know if they
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: are or not, and health is the same, I think
• 46:18
  Speaker 7: Peterson's ceiling might be a little bit higher for what
• 46:21
  Speaker 7: he can be. We saw what the Bonsa can be.
• 46:24
  Speaker 7: We saw what cam Boozer can be. I think cam
• 46:26
  Speaker 7: Boozer might be the most solid pick of them all,
• 46:29
  Speaker 7: but I don't think he's got the highest ceiling for
• 46:32
  Speaker 7: what he is at the next level. He's not an
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: elite level athlete. To Bonsa, I think is a better athlete.
• 46:37
  Speaker 7: Peterson's a better athlete. I think the Jazz aren't going
• 46:40
  Speaker 7: to go wrong with either guy, But I don't know
• 46:43
  Speaker 7: how much capital I would give up? How many players
• 46:45
  Speaker 7: I would give up to move up that spot to
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: grab aj to Bonsa versus Tarn Peterson, who might in
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: the long run be a better player.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Is Salt Lake City?
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Is Utah still a unique enough market that maybe you
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: all are the rules that every other franchise in the
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: NBA is just like, just give me the best player
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: and we'll figure out the rest. But is Utah still
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: unique enough? Is it hard enough to sell to certain
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: types of recruits, certain types of of draft picks that
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: you say, you know what, No, I think I need
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: someone that I that I'm going to get a second
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: contract out of. We don't want to be we don't
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: want to love him and have him leave like has
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: happened so many times.
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: I don't know you can worry about that. Honestly, I
• 47:29
  Speaker 7: think you have to get the best player in here.
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: Just because aj De Bonsa played it, they paid him
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: a lot of money to live here, Sean. It wasn't
• 47:37
  Speaker 7: like he came here because he loved the red Rocks
• 47:40
  Speaker 7: and hiking and moab and fry sauce became his favorite thing.
• 47:45
  Speaker 7: They paid him like thirteen million dollars or some crazy
• 47:48
  Speaker 7: I don't know. What the exact amount of money was
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: to come play at BYU. Did he love his experience, Yeah,
• 47:55
  Speaker 7: it sounds like he loved his experience. But I don't
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: think you're gonna worry about that in the NBA because
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: if you draft him and you bring him in, what
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: if his experience isn't great with the Jazz, What if
• 48:05
  Speaker 7: the Jazz don't win ultimately? What if he wants to
• 48:08
  Speaker 7: go back he's from Boston. What if the Boston Celtics
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: make him an offer in five or six years. I
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: don't think in today's day and age kind of like
• 48:16
  Speaker 7: you can in college. You just got to bring these
• 48:18
  Speaker 7: kids in and treat everybody like a year by year player.
• 48:22
  Speaker 8: Sometimes I think.
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: With the pro pro athletes, Yeah, you'd like to think that,
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: but you have to make their experience for the four
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: or five years you have them as good as possible
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: and then just kind of almost treat it like we
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: may not have them in five years, hopefully we.
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: Do, and go from there.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: I think you're absolutely right on that, even though I
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: understand like that, Hey, it is unique and it is
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: important that this is a person who has a relationship
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: with the state and likes the state.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Things change all the time.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: And the AJ's going to be eligible for at some
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: point one hundred million dollars a year contract. You can
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: live happily wherever you're at getting that kind of money.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: So I think you're absolutely right on that. Before I
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: let you go, we've got PGA champion. You'll you only
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: get to watch one sporting event this weekend?
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Bill?
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Are you watching NBA playoffs, NHL Playoffs, the PGA Championship,
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: which of course is in every single weekend, or are
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: you watching Gina Carando Ronda Rousey on Netflix MVP Promotions
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: making their MMA debut.
• 49:25
  Speaker 7: I'm probably watching hockey playoffs if I can only watch one,
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: you tell me.
• 49:31
  Speaker 8: It feels like.
• 49:32
  Speaker 7: Ronda Rowsey hasn't been relevant in like a decade.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's correct.
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: It feels like Mike Tyson coming back and fighting on
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: Netflix too. But then again, Gina Carano hasn't really been
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: much of a fighter, and it this kind of feels like,
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: let's try and relive twenty fifteen all over again. I
• 49:50
  Speaker 7: don't know your this is your sport. I mean, are
• 49:53
  Speaker 7: they are we going to get a fight this weekend?
• 49:56
  Speaker 7: Is are these two in fighting shape? Is this just
• 49:58
  Speaker 7: a money grab. It feels like a Jake Paul thing
• 50:01
  Speaker 7: to me.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: The answer to all of those questions is yes, Look,
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: they're gonna give us their best effort. They're they're both
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: in great shape right now. But a forty three year
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: old woman in great shape and a thirty nine year
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: old woman in great shape. It's not the same as
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: we By the way, Gina Corona has been seventeen years
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: since she fought, since she fought. What I'm saying, it's
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: been like nine and a half for Ronda.
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: And she lost her last couple of fights.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: She yes, she did so.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: Again, Like, I actually respect the heck out of what
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: MVP Promotions and Netflix are doing here, because what are
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: they doing, Bill, They're eventizing this thing.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: The fight itself, the.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: Main event is probably gonna end up being a pretty
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: crap fight.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Like it.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: We're probably just gonna be like, oh well this these
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: two are both shadows of their former selves, kind of
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: like we expected, which, by the way, no insult to them,
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: That's what happens when you hit age forty in combats.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: It's okay.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: But Netflix is just like, this is the event though,
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: you gotta watch this. Look how much we're talking about it.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: Look how big a deal we're making the weigh ins,
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: And look how much Ronda's talking crap about the UFC,
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: even though that's the thing that made her into Ronda Rousey.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: It's wild that they have And by the way, I'm
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: a sucker, So I'm gonna watch it.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Even though I know the main event is gonna suck,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: because it's an event.
• 51:26
  Speaker 7: Is that tonight or tomorrow? It's tomorrow, Okay, I'll probably
• 51:29
  Speaker 7: watch it because I have Netflix and it's it's not
• 51:32
  Speaker 7: like I'm having to pay sixty four ninety nine like
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: the old days of pay per view. But by the way,
• 51:38
  Speaker 7: I love the fact that UFC's on Paramount now too.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: It was a great move for them, I mean, and
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: by the way, I don't think it's moved that it's
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: ever gonna pay off for Paramount.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: They're not.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna get their return on investment.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: But if you're an MMA fan like I am, if
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: you're a UFC fan, the accessibility of even the big
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: time cards not having to be a seventy dollars pay
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: per view, it's really.
• 52:00
  Speaker 7: Well, you know me, Sean, I'm not into it like
• 52:03
  Speaker 7: you are. That's your living and your sport. But I'm
• 52:04
  Speaker 7: a casual fan and I don't watch, you know, all
• 52:07
  Speaker 7: seventeen fights, but I'll watch the last couple. I love
• 52:10
  Speaker 7: the fact that I don't have to shell out fifty
• 52:12
  Speaker 7: nine or sixty or seventy bucks now because I have
• 52:15
  Speaker 7: a Paramount subscription to watch land Man and Yellowstone and
• 52:18
  Speaker 7: all that stuff, and so I can watch It's great.
• 52:21
  Speaker 7: I'm more into it now because I don't have to
• 52:23
  Speaker 7: shell it out and I can watch it on Paramount.
• 52:24
  Speaker 8: I think it's been great.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: You're telling me that there's not like every middle aged
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: guy on the planet is like I'm watching reruns of
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: Ali Larder yelling at Billy Bob Thornton, and now some
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: fights come on.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: You're not changing the channel. You're like, el, I'll keep
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: it here. This is right. This stays in my great shoulder.
• 52:39
  Speaker 7: It's great shoulder programming.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: It really is all right, Bill, Before I let you go,
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: handy law Utah, Handy and handy good friends of mine,
• 52:47
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• 52:49
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• 52:51
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• 53:01
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• 53:03
  Speaker 7: Hopefully you stay out of injuries at work or on
• 53:06
  Speaker 7: the on play, or in car accidents. But if you
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  Speaker 2: Tony Jones, Welcome back to the show. How are you?
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  Speaker 6: I thought you forgot about me?
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  Speaker 2: How could I ever forget about you?
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  Speaker 6: Easy? Not called me for six months?
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  Speaker 3: It was was I the one who abandoned all of
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  Speaker 2: Was it me who left?
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  Speaker 6: That's crazy? You know what now now I feel a
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  Speaker 2: No, man, we're all happy for you doing your thing.
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  Speaker 6: But I actually asked him. I actually ran into somebody
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  Speaker 6: know if you remember Dave Shaler.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, of course. Yeah, he's with the seventy six ers
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's like there, like their head. He's basically like
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  Speaker 6: and I was like, wow, like the world is just
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  Speaker 6: way too small.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Dave was like even when he was with the UFC,
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  Speaker 3: he like he was way I'm a I was an
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: entry level fighter in the UFC, right, and he was
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: like he had an important gig in the company. But
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  Speaker 3: he was one of those guys who'd never treated anyone
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  Speaker 2: Good stuff happens to good people sometimes.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. No, he's really good people. And you know, I
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  Speaker 6: It's only been one year, but I mean we've we've
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  Speaker 3: Well, next time you see him, tell him I said hello,
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: because I have only fond memories of interacting with him
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  Speaker 3: during my time with the with the UFC, which didn't
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  Speaker 3: last as long as you know his did. Anyway, the
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  Speaker 3: big news, and you know what I'm gonna ask about.
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  Speaker 3: The big news is that last on Mother's Day, last Sunday,
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  Speaker 3: the NBA Draft lottery yields a number two pick.
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  Speaker 2: For the University of Utah.
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  Speaker 3: And when I had you on seventeen hundred months ago,
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  Speaker 3: we were talking about how deep this class was, how
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  Speaker 3: guys like aj Debonsa could be franchise changers. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know how much we talked about Darren Peterson back then,
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  Speaker 3: because it was before the season, Cam Booser, et cetera,
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: et cetera. And now you're in a position to draft
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  Speaker 3: one of them.
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  Speaker 2: Probably going to be Darren Peterson.
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  Speaker 3: But before we get to who the specifics of who
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: it is, how fortuitous is it that the Jazz happened
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  Speaker 3: to be at the top of this particular draft.
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  Speaker 6: I think with and I've said this before and I'll
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  Speaker 6: say it again. I probably it was probably going to
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  Speaker 6: be to the chagrin of the Jazz themselves. But I
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  Speaker 6: thought that if the Jazz got one of the big
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna say three, but I really, but I really
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  Speaker 6: need either a j de Banca or Garon Peterson with
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  Speaker 6: the infrastructure that they have, you know, with marketing already
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  Speaker 6: in place, Daron Jackson Jr. In place, uh, they're gonna
• 59:24
  Speaker 6: get Walker Kessler back with him back and in place
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  Speaker 6: with the death that they've developed in terms of Isaiah Callier,
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  Speaker 6: uh in you know, Kyle Philipowski in place with you know,
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  Speaker 6: use of Nurkish back. You know, I think the Jazz
• 59:43
  Speaker 6: want nrk back and with the with the development of
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  Speaker 6: Keyante George. I thought that if you added either aj
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  Speaker 6: Demanta or Darren Peterson to that mix, the Jazz have
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  Speaker 6: a chance to win a championship. And I I stand
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  Speaker 6: by that, and I think that you know, I you know,
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  Speaker 6: I don't think that they're going to be a favorite
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  Speaker 6: or anything, but I think they're one feeling to the
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  Speaker 6: group that they're about to put together is winning it all.
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  Speaker 6: And you know, they're going to have to do some
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  Speaker 6: smart things around the group. They're gonna have to still
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  Speaker 6: build around the group, uh and and do some you know,
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  Speaker 6: do some things to some kind of get themselves in
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  Speaker 6: a position to challenge out of San Antonio or Oklahoma City.
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  Speaker 6: But I think that this team has is going to
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  Speaker 6: have every chance to be a top four team in
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  Speaker 6: the Western Conference next year. And you know, and I
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: think that it's charring for people to hear. You know,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 6: somebody say say that about a team that's you know,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 6: struggled for so much. But in this CBA, in this
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  Speaker 6: NBA economy, in this NBA era, you don't have time
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  Speaker 6: to wait. There's no time to wait, like there's no time.
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  Speaker 6: You know, this group is not going to be together
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  Speaker 6: for five years. This group is probably going to have
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  Speaker 6: a three year run at most before finances. Finances mean
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: a major change somewhere. And obviously as Bailey, I forgot
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: to mention Ace Bailey, but you know, this group is
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  Speaker 6: going to be together to the three years. And you know,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 6: the Jazz don't have time to wait. This roster is
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 6: going to get really expensive, really fast, especially whenever they
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 6: have to take Iante and but the fact that they're
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 6: going to have so much versatility and talent and and
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 6: and height, and the ability to shoot the ball. And
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 6: you're at either add Devansa or or Darren Peterson to
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  Speaker 6: that group, to that infrastructure, this team is ready to go.
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  Speaker 2: Can I infer from that assertion?
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  Speaker 3: And I have heard you say that before, and I'm
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: glad you reasserted it here? Can I infer from that
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  Speaker 3: that you expect whoever that is AJ or Darren Peterson
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  Speaker 3: to then grow into being a true league superstar like
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: because you can't win an NBA championship anymore without one
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  Speaker 3: of them, right.
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  Speaker 6: Right? And I agree, you can't win without a one
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  Speaker 6: A guy. And I think that you know those are
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 6: those are those are two one A guys. You know,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: we'll see what happens with Cameron Boozer. I happen to
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 6: think that he's not going to be a one A guy,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 6: But I think that Ad Demansa and Darren Peterson are
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 6: are both one A guys. So you know, and the
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  Speaker 6: thing that further enhances their value to the Jazz is
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  Speaker 6: that you know, the Jazz are about to start three
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 6: seven footers in their front court. They need a guy
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 6: who can be a primary ball handler, and you know
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: that's going to be Keyante George obviously, And you know,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 6: obviously Isaiah Calier coming off the bench, but it's also
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 6: going to be either the dancer or Peterson, you know,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 6: and those guys are going to it probably mutes their
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 6: utahs stealing a little bit in the first year because
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: they're you know, those guys are going to be learning
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 6: for by year two and year three.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: If those guys are as good as I think they
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 6: have a chance to be, you know, they they're you know,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: look at you know, Dylan Harper, what Dylan Harper is
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: doing as a as a primary ball handler in San Antonio.
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  Speaker 6: He's in his first year. Looking what Stefan Castle, who
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 6: is doing in San Antonio, He's in his second year.
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  Speaker 6: So this is this is not far fetched that these
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: guys become you know, primary playoff level ball handlers in
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  Speaker 6: year one or year two. And I happen to think
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 6: the world of both of their talent talent level, and
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 6: you know, and I think when you add you know,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 6: that kind of dynamic talent to what the Jazz already have,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 6: I think they're gonna shoot shoot at the top of
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 6: the Western Conference rather quickly.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: Tony Jones is our guest here on The Sean O'Connell Show.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: Talk at all things NBA basketball, upcoming draft. Uh, when
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: you hear about the concerns with Darren Peterson, the first
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: thing people mention is, you know, the cramping, the health issues.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: But what about his game deserves the most criticism? Is
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: it the lack of assists?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Is it?
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: Is it something related to that health where he maybe
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: you know, didn't push hard enough to get through some
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: of the stuff, which of course is more perception than reality,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: because who knows. But what about his game deserves the
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: most criticism?
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 6: You know, that's a really good question. And you know,
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  Speaker 6: I do think that I do think that he probably
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 6: could have been better at the playmaking thing this year.
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  Speaker 6: That being said, I still think that he's a really
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 6: good passer. And I mean I didn't think a lot
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 6: of you know, the roster Kansas had around him. I mean,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 6: you know, some of the the the passes you know
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 6: that went to you know, brick layers in Kansas are
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 6: going to be going to Lowry Marketing in Jaron Jackson
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 6: Junior and Keyante George and those are going to be assists.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: You know, I don't have any concern with the cramping stuff.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 6: I happen to think that you know, and I could
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 6: be wrong with this, but I happen to think that
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 6: Darren Peterson just didn't want to be in college was
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 6: last year, and that he thought him of himself as
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 6: a pro and you know, basically he was biding his time.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 6: You know, I don't look at him as a durability
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 6: issue heading into the NBA. And so you know, he
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: has a durability issue in the NBA, you know, So
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 6: I you know, other than that, I mean, you know,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: he's he's an apex shooter, he's an apex ball handler.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 6: You know, I thought that his his athleticism was clearly
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 6: limited last year in Kansas. If you watch his high
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 6: school take, it's clearly more explosive off the dribble than
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 6: he was at Kansas. You know, he's twenty or however
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 6: he is, Uh, you know, that's not going to be
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 6: gone forever. He'll get that back. And you know I
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 6: thought that, you know, when I watched him, thought that
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 6: he was the best American guard process that I've seen
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 6: since Tyrie Irving. So you know, you do with that
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: as you wish, but you know, I just don't have
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: that many concerns over you know, what his game is.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 6: And in terms of you know, what he's going to
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 6: be able to do once to get into NBA's savings.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: How how should my minds I be looking at the
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: process of choosing who to draft at number two, and
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: I guess even by extension, I don't think the Jazz
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: are going to try to package things and move up.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to want to pay that cost.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: But that decision will be I'm sure at least bandied about.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: They'll at least have a conversation about it. How should
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: I be picturing those decisions happening? Because you've got the
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: ages that are the basketball experts that have been tasked
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: with running this organization and making the moves necessary to
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: put this team into a title picture. Eventually, you've got
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: Ryan Smith, who's got a personal relationship with one of
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: the top prospects in this draft, who I think had
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: at least a pie in the sky vision of like
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: getting this kid for being the number one high school
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: player in the country to the number one college player
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: in the country to the number one NBA rookie at
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: my franchise. Is he gonna walk into the room and say, guys,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: it's Aja or Bus, come on, do this one for me,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: or are the angels going to say, nope, you hired
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: us to do it our way, get out of the room.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: How should jazz fans be picturing the way that those
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: conversations and the power balance is going to factor into
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: the draft.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 6: This is the most fun question you've ever asked me,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: because all right, so this is what's actually happening. You know,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 6: they're doing interviews, They're probably going to have both of
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 6: those guys in for workouts. They're going through they're going
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 6: over you know, hours an hour or to take. You know,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 6: they're discussing. I do believe that Cameron Boozer will be
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 6: in that discussion as well. I do believe that Kayler
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: Wilson will be in that discussion because I have Taylor
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 6: Wilson on the same level as Cameron Boozer. But here's
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 6: what should be happening. What should be happening is, you know,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 6: those guys are watching Netflix. They're lighting cigars, Austin names,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 6: Danny Ames, Ryan Smith, Will Hardy and and Justin's Zannik.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 6: You know, they're having a slice of pizza, they're having
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 6: some wings and they're sitting back and they're saying, Wow,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 6: we get to left. The Washington Wizards just pick whoever
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 6: they want to pick, and We're just gonna take whoever's left,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 6: because that's what that's what they that's what is probably
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 6: gonna ultimately happen. Right, you know, the Wizards are gonna
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 6: select between A. J. De Banca and Darren Peterson, and
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 6: the Jazz are gonna take whoever's left out of that
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 6: because you can't lose with either one of those guys.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 6: Us you're even getting a guy who, like I said,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 6: is probably the best American guard prospect that I've seen
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 6: since Kyrie Irving, or you're getting Tracy McGrady, which is
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 6: who I think A. J. Devanta is. And if you
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 6: get aj Devanta, he probably instantly, instantly becomes the third
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 6: most popular basketball player to ever play to ever play
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 6: for the Utah Jazz, behind Malone and Stocking. You know,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 6: when you factor in the fact that you know, he
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 6: did his last year of high school in Utah, he
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 6: did the year BYU and Utah, embrace the BYU culture,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 6: embrace the BYU infrastructure, and now goes to the Jazz,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 6: and I think that he's gonna have every chance to
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 6: become an NBA superstar. So you know there's it's it's
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 6: truly a no lose situation for the for the Jazz,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 6: And I will say this, I will say this, I
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 6: think that Darren Peterson and Ada de Baansla are the
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 6: same level of player. Like this, They do different things,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 6: they go about their business differently, but they're both all
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 6: NBA level talent. And you know, and you're not. You're
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 6: just not differential. There's no difference in the level of
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 6: talent between one or the other.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: Tony Jones for another minute or two here on the
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: Sean O'Connell show. All right, Uh, we'll just get to
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: watch the soap opera as it plays out, very much
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: looking forward to it, however, way, whichever way it goes.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: This current NBA playoff has been fascinating. Oklahoma City looks
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: like they're the team to beat again. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: where Russ versus Rest becomes a factor with a couple
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: of sweeps. But yeah, who's gonna come out of the
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  Speaker 3: other Western Conference series that, of course we have right
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  Speaker 3: here on ESPN seven and ninety two one FM.
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  Speaker 2: Spurs or Wolves.
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  Speaker 6: I think the Wolves are out of gas, so I
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  Speaker 6: think the Spurs are gonna win tonight. You know, I
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 6: think the Wolves, you know, did well to get this
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  Speaker 6: series of six games probably could have ended in five,
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  Speaker 6: if you know, san Antonio makes a few plays down
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 6: the stretch of of Game four. But I think san
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  Speaker 6: Antonio is gonna win to night, and I think they're
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  Speaker 6: gonna close this out and and you know, and uh,
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  Speaker 6: I think that it's gonna set up uh spurs in
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  Speaker 6: Oklahoma City, and I think that's gonna be one of
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  Speaker 6: the best series that we've seen in a long long time.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: What about in the East, can the fighting Donovan Mitchell's
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: get to the Eastern Conference Final?
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  Speaker 6: Don I love you? It's the next time, baby, Okay,
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  Speaker 6: let me stop.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: Don I love you, But I don't love you as
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: much as I love the Knicks, is what he really meant.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 6: It's it's I think no, seriously, I would say objectively,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 6: I think this is this is the next year. This
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 6: is the next year to get out of the East.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 6: You know, they've you know, I just actually wrote about
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 6: this in a piece that's coming out in The Athletic.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 6: If Cleveland wins tonight, we did our you know, serious addictions.
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  Speaker 6: And one of the things that I said is that,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 6: you know, there were a lot of There was a
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 6: lot of questions about Mike Brown and Tom Thibodeaux and
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 6: was this right move, especially when the Nicks were struggling
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 6: in late December and early January. But as it turns out,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 6: this is what was happening. You know, Mike was experimenting
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: with lineups run, you know, experimenting with combinations. He was,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 6: you know, making his team less helio centric around Jalen Brunton.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 6: And now this team is fresh. Uh, they are a
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 6: lot more diverse offensively than they were in the playoffs
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: last year because it was like Brunton or Busts, you know,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 6: they you know, they've run through the Eastern Conference so far,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 6: the eighty two. You know, I expect if it's if
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 6: I expect the Knicks to win that next series of
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 6: five or six games.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Tony Jones did just use the word helio centric
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: in a conversation. That's why you should be reading his writing.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 6: Listen, man, you gotta put that English degree work.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: Bro the the NFL schedule release video, how do you
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: grade out your commanders?
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: Did they do all right?
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 6: We did all right? We got the Eagles in Week
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 6: one at Philadelphia. So guess what I'm going to be.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna be at the Link, buddy, I'm gonna be
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 6: at the Link and listen. Eagles fan, you cannot fight
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 6: me because remember, I'm your Sixers rider.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: So wait, are you gonna be there in working capacity
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: or fan capacity?
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna be there in fan capacity. But there's gonna
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 6: be a sign on my head that says I'm your
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 6: Sixers writer. Don't harm me.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, you're you're gonna You're gonna be wearing a burgundy jersey.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: People are gonna want to throw things at you.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: What does that sign say? Oh, I don't want to
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: cause head trauma for Tony Jones. I'm trying to read
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: his writing.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 6: Yes, he's on Sixers writers from the Athletic Honey, don't
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 6: throw that bottle at him.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: You're a bold man. I don't like I have.
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  Speaker 3: I've only been to one sporting event in Philadelphia, and
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: I was there neutrally. It was just my younger brother
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: likes to go to games at every NFL stadium, so
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: we did that one.
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  Speaker 2: And no horse in the race, no, no dog in
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: the fight. It was like I was wearing all black
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: and you.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: Could still feel the hostility from the Philadelphia fans because
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: you weren't overtly rooting for their birds.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 6: Oh, it is absolutely crazy. So you know, it's it's
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 6: part of what makes Philadelphia such a great sports town.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 6: And you know, I saw out of post this this
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 6: year and you know, and it's it's it's something that
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 6: you know, I want to continue to experience.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: Well, it's great catching up with you, my friend. Hopefully
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: life is good in addition to professional life being good,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: and hopefully we'll see you again soon.
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  Speaker 8: I appreciate you, my guy.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 6: Thank you for how.
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  Speaker 3: Tony Jones of the Athletic he is the Philadelphia seventy
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: six Ers insider, but he's also an NBA insider and
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: beloved here in this market. If you ever had an
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: opportunity to meet Tony Jones personally, he's one of the
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: easiest guys in this business to get along with. So
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: we really do appreciate his contributions and of course his
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: time on the show. Today, all right, we've got a
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  Speaker 2: If you're in the gallery as a fan, I'll tell
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  Speaker 3: So John Rahm hit a volunteer at the PGA Championship
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  Speaker 3: bet at the course. He hit him with a divot,
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  Speaker 3: the most golf story ever, by the way, golf etiquette
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  Speaker 3: story ever. He got mad and basically hit the ground
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  Speaker 3: out of frustration, took out a divot.
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  Speaker 4: Piece of grass just flew in the air and hit
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  Speaker 4: someone in the I don't know where it hit him,
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  Speaker 4: but it hit.
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  Speaker 3: Him, and uh, he apologized to the man. Here's what
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  Speaker 3: you do. If you're the man, Okay, you take it.
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  Speaker 3: Excuse me. You take the grass. You take the divot,
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  Speaker 3: and you put it in like one of those little
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: plastic acrylic display cases and you put it in a
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  Speaker 3: prominent place in your home and eventually it just becomes
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  Speaker 3: a brown piece of dead grass. But people are like,
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  Speaker 3: why did you what is this and you've got yourself
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  Speaker 3: a nice little conversation.
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  Speaker 4: Piece, or or you pretend it hits your right in
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  Speaker 4: the eye and one of the one of the blades
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  Speaker 4: then you get a lossuit out of it.
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  Speaker 3: Get you got John rob You ought me a several
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  Speaker 3: million dollars John Robs just like dang it.
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  Speaker 4: And he he makes another divit it hits someone else.
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  Speaker 4: But the fact that I'll just say this, the reason
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  Speaker 4: why I feel like this is the most etiquette story ever,
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  Speaker 4: the fact that this is like a mini scandal because
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  Speaker 4: oh my gosh, he got mad and a piece of
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  Speaker 4: grass hit one of the volunteers, Like, should he be
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 4: should he be excluded from the rest of the PGA Championship. No, guys,
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  Speaker 4: we can calm down. Grass doesn't hurt anybody. It's nice
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: that he went to the guy immediately and said, I'm
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  Speaker 4: really sorry.
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  Speaker 3: What about the dirt, calm down? What about the dirt
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: that's attached to the grass? James, Yeah, you're right. What
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  Speaker 3: if he's someone who's he goes blind because of the
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  Speaker 3: dirt in his eyes? What if he's extremely allergic to grass? Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask Paul Pugbyer excuse me when he joins us.
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  Speaker 2: I want to know if.
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  Speaker 3: Players have to have like insurance and insurance company backing
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  Speaker 3: like or if the courses do or whatever. I want
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  Speaker 3: to know if you are injured while in the gallery
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  Speaker 3: at a golf course, have you signed the waiver so
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: you just have to deal with it. If Tiger Woods
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  Speaker 3: hits me with a drive going one hundred and eighty
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: miles an hour off the tee, am I able to
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: be like Tiger you owe me some money And he's like, ugh, fine,
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  Speaker 3: because he has an insurance policy that just covers that.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of like when you get sued, your homeowner's insurance
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  Speaker 3: oftentimes is the thing that actual ability.
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  Speaker 2: For injuries on your property.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna ask Paul Pugmyer that when he joins
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  Speaker 3: us on the show at one thirty.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: What if a divot?
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 4: What if a guy who's allergic to grass gets hit
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: by a divot and has a very has a life
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 4: threatening situation in the emergency.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: Room, you gotta hit it with an epipad, And those
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: things are expensive. Okay, who's paying for that?
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  Speaker 2: All right?
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: In general, the proliferation of athlete run podcasts I think
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  Speaker 3: is not necessarily good. And that's not just because I'm
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  Speaker 3: insecure about it as a media professional quote unquote media
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  Speaker 3: professional yikes, former athlete yourself. But I think I just
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  Speaker 3: think that, like, there's a lot of people who have
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  Speaker 3: podcasts that like, we don't need to hear you talk,
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• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: of the situation is I just don't have to listen
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  Speaker 3: went on the Brianna Stewart podcast Game Recognized Game and
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  Speaker 3: he said that with the Bucks last year, there was
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  Speaker 3: just a massive lack of discipline. He never find anybody,
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  Speaker 3: Doc Rivers, never find anybody. And apparently Yannis said he
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  Speaker 3: would just show up whatever he wants, which is the
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  Speaker 3: wildest thing in a team sport that a superstar player
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  Speaker 3: just be like, yeah, I'll show up what I feel
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  Speaker 3: like showing up. Now, if you're a if you're like
• 1:26:51
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  Speaker 3: if you're prince right, even Taylor Swift could do this
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  Speaker 3: and just be like, yeah, show up when I want
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  Speaker 3: to show up.
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  Speaker 4: Oh the concert, the tickets say it starts at seven.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not ready to till ten.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, you expect me to come on at at nine
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  Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna be there at eleven thirty. And guess what.
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  Speaker 3: Who's got By the way, this kind of like generally
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: wholesome sort of reputation to be I'll show up what
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  Speaker 3: I feel like showing up, and for the coach to be.
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  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, okay, you're honest. Well see when we see you.
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  Speaker 4: He's allowed, by the way, the coaches are allowed to
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  Speaker 4: find players for almost anything.
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  Speaker 3: They're encouraged to. Yeah, you're supposed to. And he's just like,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: you know, here's here's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: This reminded me this was not part of the any
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  Speaker 4: stories they were written about these comments. It just I
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  Speaker 4: read this and went, hold on, isn't this exactly why
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  Speaker 4: they said he was fired by the Clippers in twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty one, at the after the twenty twenty season, or
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  Speaker 4: in the middle of the twenty twenty one season whenever
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: it was dude, because because he let Kawhi do whatever
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: he wants and no other players were too upset were
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 4: really irked about that.
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  Speaker 3: Can you imagine if you're Steve Balmer and you hear
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: THATWHI it gets back to you that Doc Rivers is
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: allowing Kawhi Leonard to skip film, skip treatment, show up
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: at shoot around whenever he feels like.
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  Speaker 4: Without finding whatever, what I practices, plane.
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  Speaker 3: Rides, whatever team playing is supposed to leave at five pm.
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  Speaker 3: He gets there at five forty whatever. Everyone else is
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: waiting on him. Can you imagine if you're Steve Balmer
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  Speaker 3: and you're like, dude, we are literally violating the rules
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: to pay this guy extra money and you're not even
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: making him what he's supposed to tell you fight it
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: and you're losing in the second round of the playoffs
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: when you have a three to one lead.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, knock.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: There's Look, there's nothing wrong with being a player's coach
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: right pattern here, though, there's a lot of ways you
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: could be very successful being a player's coach. We've seen
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: player coaches win championships, including Doc Rivers.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: But you can't be that permissive with your superstar. You
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: have to be.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: Willing like That's that's why guys like Phil Jackson, Jerry Sloan,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: Greg Popovich in the other era, the other generation, the
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: non like the non player coaches, that's why they were
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: so respected by the biggest stars, the biggest egos in
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: the game because they were like, Okay, yeah, you're a
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: great player. I acknowledge that you're the best player in
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: the world. I acknowledge that this is my team and
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: these are my rules, and this.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: Is how you're gonna do it.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: Bill Belichick on the football side for a really long
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: time that there's so many stories about how he would
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 4: go after Brady like.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: Tom Brady, right, yes, and I'm sure that gets tiresome
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: if you're Tom Brady at some point, finally it did,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: but you got to respect it on some level, and
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: the rest of the players in the locker room respect
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: it most importantly, all Right, James, I've been waiting.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: To do this.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: The the schedule release videos that were put out there,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: the one that was most overlooked for me, the most
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: disrespected was the New York Jets. And now, for obvious reason,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: you see the New York Jets doing everything and people
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: are just like, oh, the Jets suck. So this schedule
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: release probably and it was very It was odd. It's
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: not what you would think what they did. Did you
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: see what they did? They took it, didn't They took
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: dabs of paint, okay, dabs of paint colors like they're
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: mixing on a palette.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: They would mix the colors together and ultimately the color
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: that was created was the primary color of the team
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: they were playing against.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: Now the paints had specific names that they're mixing together, right,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: And that was the most clever part about it. I
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: think that people just didn't bother to read and pay attention.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna give you some you're not looking at it,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: James is not watching, And you're gonna tell me by
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: the names of the paint colors being mixed together if
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: you could tell me who the team is.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, that the New York Jets are playing that week.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: This was sponsored by jet Blue, which also made very
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: little sense because with paint colors, why didn't you have
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: a paint company sponsoring it?
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: I mean also New York Jets jet Blue works.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: Okay, fair, couldn't couldn't have been Sherwin Williams though, come on,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 4: all right.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: Jets schedule released color riddles. Here we go.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: Dolly denim is one color. Bachelorette blush is the other color.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: They mix them together to make the primary color of
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: red and blue purple Ravens. Dolly Denim, bachelorette blush, Dolly denim,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: what color would that be? Okay, and blush, I'm guessing
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: red blush. It's kind of a light pink. It's to
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: be fair to you. But think of Dolly and think
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: of bachelorette. What city is that?
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 8: La?
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: No, no, Dolly pardon Ashville correct, Tennessee Titans. Okay, now
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: we're getting there. I'm thinking bachelor is in La. Bachelorette parties.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: Most bachelor parties happened in Nashville. Okay, you learn something
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: every day. Okay. The next one is three three colors, cheese, curd, relish,
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: and strawberry milk.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: Together, make.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: With some yellow, green and pink, yeah, which I mean
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: the pink will throw you off a little bit.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So yellow and green, what does that mean when
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: you mix it together that blue?
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: You're too focused on the actual color. You gotta you
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: gotta go with packers.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: Okay, you know, I'm like, sorry, I'm thinking of I'm
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: trying to I'm remembering elementary school when my last mixed.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: Paint the pink less of the color wheel.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, all right, I'm gonna. I'm gonna I'm cheese
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 4: shape up here. I'm redlish this and strawberry milk. Okay,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 4: uh my strawba is it because dairy? Because the milk?
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they must have strawberry milk up there.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Wisconsin from Wisconsin.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: With cloud Gate and Deep Dish char Wait Raiders, silver
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: and black, right, gray and black.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: You're doing it again. You're focusing on what you think
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: the color is cloud Gate. Cloud Gate is the name
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: of the Chicago Bean, Okay, the actual official name and
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: Deep Dish Charge is like the Chicago Okay, Okay, I
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: didn't know this one.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: You're gonna get this one. You're gonna go shout of blue, lobster.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 4: Blush, wicked Doc, what New England? Yes, okay, I mean
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 4: lobsters Maryland. Are we sure it's not Rayven okay? Rust
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: Belt and Lake Effect Cleveland?
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 3: Yes, the colors that describes the city so well. Spray Tan,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: major Key and Finkle the Miami.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, this one.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: Wait, what's finkle Finkle? That's from It's from ace Ventura. Okay,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen a spent turn a long time. Uh,
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: but this one's tough. Buffey, Napkin and Spade, oh Vegas. Yes, okay,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: the casino buffets.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 4: Hawaiian shirt and red Hawaiian shirt and red yes? Is
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: it one of the LA teams?
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 3: I who wears Hawaiian shirts all the time?
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: Andy Reid, Oh, Andy Reid?
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 8: There you go?
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: And the chiefs Okay, he doesn't wear him on game days.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 4: To be fair, he should. They should have a Chief
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 4: Hawaiian print.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: He was. He was on the Chisees shirt this morning,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: and they would Richisa was like, hey, fourteen years in
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: Kansas City, fourteen years in Philadelphia. He's like, I really
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: love my job, man. I mean you just put on
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 3: a Tommy Bahama shirt.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: You go to work. It's awesome. I was like that
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: everyone else does that.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 3: Andy, You're the only coach who puts on a Tommy
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: Bahama's shirt.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 4: Twenty eight years as a head coach is not nothing.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: It's a big deal.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 4: That's a big deal for Andy, by the way, Like,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: don't you think it's a little It was really awkward
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 4: that we have coaches press conferences after this social media
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 4: event and they have to say, yeah, I mean we
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 4: play who we play, and we're excited. Yes, Like don't like,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 4: we don't need that.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: We don't need that. We don't need that.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: By the way, Andy Reid, if he wins another championship,
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: maybe even two, right now, it's everyone looks up to Belichick.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: Right. We kind of saw though that it was a
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: Tom Brady thing.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Andy Reid had the Philadelphia Eagles right there on
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 3: the cusp and then you give them great players in
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: Kansas City.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: He wins multiple titles like let that debate rage.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean I feel like the really old
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 4: school guys still have Lombardi up there pretty high.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's like those three for sure.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: Okay, Blue Jay, Frostbite and Ranchnut blue Cheese are the
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: colors mixed together to make the primary of blue Jay, frostbite, Yes,
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: Buffalo twenty dollars, Machas and cacow. Those are the colors
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: mixed together to make maachas in Cocaw twenty dollars, Macha
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: twenty dollars overpriced, and cocow. I do not know that
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: is a reference to stee to lightning McQueen chargers. Correct
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: with the lightning bolt, Yes, of course. Okay, thunder Yellow
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: and red rocks. Now this one you can think of
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: it because you mix yellow and orange, yellow and red together,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: they make orange, make orange. Red rocks is a famous place.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Broncos, Yes, okay, orange crush, let's go prickly pear,
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 4: dry ride, prickly pair and dry heat red Arizona okay.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: Raspberry beret and Minnetonka blue. Raspberry Forray and Minnetonka blue.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 3: Yes, red and blue mixed together make for So this
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: is the Ravens Nope, purple Raspberry beret, Minnesota Prince Yeah okay,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 3: uh and this one Blizzard Warning, Mafia magenta and snow
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: shovel bills again bills again because you know, because they
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 3: played yeah divisional game. Yeah, so those were the riddles
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: I liked.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: I like some of those were lost on me.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 3: Man, those were good and some of them are really hard,
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: and I liked it. And I'm glad that we stumped
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: you a.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: Couple of times.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Bilbo Baggins would have would have been proud of
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 4: those riddles. Smiga would have been mad at him.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: We've got the airing of grievances coming up. I want
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: to make sure we we give that enough time. I
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: want to stay on clock here.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 4: I have, by the way, if we if we haven't
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 4: enough time and airing a grievances, I have a solution
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 4: for you to get back at your neighbor that with
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 4: some production value and everything that we can as a
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 4: follow up to last week's Bad Neighbors grievance.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: We will make time for that.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 3: Okay, So one more segment this hour, we start our
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  Speaker 3: number three with the airing of Grievances.
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  Speaker 2: Paul Pugmeyer joins us at one thirty.
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  Speaker 6: I got a lot of problems with your people.
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  Speaker 3: your grievances. We will air them for the audience. This one,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: uh man, I'm gonna pull this one. Bothers me from
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 3: Ryan Grievance. Bought a new fridge, said it was fifty
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 3: dollars to deliver. I said, all right, fine. Then they
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: said if there are any stairs?
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  Speaker 2: Oh no.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: Then they said are there any stairs? I said three
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 3: to get in the house. They said, that's one hundred dollars.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 3: What the fifty dollars delivery fee doesn't doesn't apply.
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  Speaker 2: If you have stairs.
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  Speaker 3: You know how rare it is to find a home
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: with no stairs at all, without a porch stair, without
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 3: a stair from the garage, without the entryway being higher
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: or lower. So you got to have some stairs. You
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: cannot be a delivery company and expect no stairs. That's
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 3: why people pay you to do the delivery, because they
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 3: don't want to do with the stairs. You charged the
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 3: fifty bucks because you are the stair handler.
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  Speaker 4: Grievance three steps too, Like that's that's like barely any stairs.
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  Speaker 2: I had.
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  Speaker 3: I ordered some outdoor furniture on like Mega Clothes out
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  Speaker 3: last year because my dog ate some of my wife's
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 3: beautiful outdoor furniture that she had selected. Is that what
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 3: you told you? Is that what you told her? The
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: dog ate it? It was not me, So I ordered
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 3: it right, I didn't ruin it. I felt really good
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: about the price. I was like, oh cool, I got
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 3: the exact replica, the exact replacement of what he had destroyed.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: And I was like, hey, you can't be mad. I
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: got you new ones.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 3: So and then they delivered and I was like, hey,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: well you put them in the garage. You're like, oh,
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 3: we could just deliver them here to the front porch.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 3: I'm like, the garage is actually easy for you to
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 3: get into. Can you put them in there? They're like, no, sorry,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 3: we could only put them here. And I just they were,
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 3: you know, young guys in their twenties. I was like, guys,
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a tip, like a monetary tip.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you money for doing this delivery. Will
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 3: you please just put them where?
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: I ask?
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 3: And they looked at each other and they actually like
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 3: huddled and they had a little conversation.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure it's against company policy.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I was gonna say, company policy is
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 4: what it is. Sometimes it's silly, but yeah.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: Put I was like, guys, I will make it worth
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: it for you. Just put it there.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 3: So the red tape fifty dollars for three stairs. No,
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 3: we got to draw that line somewhere.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: People.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 4: That's terrible, cry and I echo your a grievance. So
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 4: did they double did they? Did they double violate company policy?
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 4: They accepted a tip they shouldn't have accepted, and they
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 4: put it in the wrong.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: By the way, if you're a company that has delivery
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: drivers and then your policies they can't accept tips, you're
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: in the wrong.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, there that would be agreements with you.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 4: I don't know for sure if moving companies have that standard,
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 4: but I know there's many other that's like, oh, sorry,
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 4: we can't accept tips.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised. It's dumb.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is dumb, Like, don't expect the tip every
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 3: time you flip the iPad around. But if I want
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 3: to give you a tip because you've actually done something
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 3: good and your boss is like, no, you can't have
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 3: that bad wrong grievance against those companies. How about this
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 3: from Craig grievance when I go out of my way
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 3: to park my big truck as far as I can
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: from the store so as not to inconvenience people.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: That's very kind, that's nice.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 3: It is sometimes difficult to be parked next to massive trucks,
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 3: big fat vehicles in small parking spots, and then some
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: in a big truck pulls in close to me and
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 3: there are wide open spaces twenty feet away. Look, I
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: wonder if that person, the other big truck person, feels
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 3: a certain amount of comfort being like, oh, they're all
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 3: so a big truck person, so they won't mind if
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 3: I put my big truck next to their big truck
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 3: and then we both can barely open our doors. That's misplaced,
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: that trust. We're the same people. We were a community here.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 3: We want to be close. Look, let's have my view.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like when you have a big dog
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 3: that wants to sit on your lap, like Rocky my guy.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he always wants.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 3: To, like what James, when you go, even when you're
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 3: standing on your lap, like like if I knock you over,
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 3: I will be on your lap, which is what I want.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's what this big truck thing is. Yeah, I'm
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: one of you.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 3: Shout out to Morgan Scowe eight seven seven three five
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 3: three zero seven hundred texting your grievances.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: Uh from Jeff.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: The food I get at a restaurant never looks like
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 3: that looks like the picture on the venue or the advertisement.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: Of course it doesn't.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 3: Jeff, Jeff, are you are you an eleven year old
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: that's just now experiencing this in life?
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: Did you just because I'm a pain consumer? It is upsetting?
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: It is upsetting.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 3: Have you ever have you ever watched like any of
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 3: the youtubes or any of the weird documentaries on how
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 3: they make commercial food. No, Oh my gosh, it's so fascinating.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 3: A lot of the time it's not even really the thing.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: It's plastic or like clay or something.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 3: Well, interestingly enough, there's not a lot of plastic use
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 3: because that looks plastic. Yeah, okay, but they will, like
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 3: if they're trying to make a burger look really good,
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 3: they'll be using something that is not an actual hamburger,
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 3: or if it is an actual hamburger and they want
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 3: to make it shine the right way, they like put
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 3: vaciline on it. It's very odd they make it inedible.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 3: It's like you know, you know the term folly right
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 3: in filmmaking, and okay, audio it's it's audio creativity, right,
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 3: creating sounds. That so when when you make a for
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 3: those that don't know, when you hear like a nice,
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 3: a really awesome thunder clap on a movie or TV show,
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 3: it's like saran wrap on on some plastic sheet making
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 3: that noise, it's they think of, like, what kind of
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 3: what kind of odd items can I can I use
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 3: to make a thunderclap? Noise, and that's what they use
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 3: to make make it sound like thunder right, Yeah, that's
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 3: that's fully that what you just described is the is
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 3: the fast.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: Food companies doing visual fully like.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 4: You know what we want it to We don't want
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 4: it to actually be a hamburger because hamburgers don't look
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 4: that good. So we're gonna use like some other kind
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 4: of We're gonna use a some other kind of item
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 4: that looks that looks like a hamburger, but like a
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 4: hamburger on steroids.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: So you can't.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 3: It should be a requirement that the food in the
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 3: commercial is food that could actually be eaten.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 4: Right, you know what state legislature, if you want to
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 4: do something for us that we'd actually that we'd actually
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 4: all appreciate, let's let's get that law in there, the
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 4: actual food law.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 3: How about this from William three zero eight three grievance.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 3: Having a neighbor who plays loud bass and music will
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 3: drive you insane, especially when you go over nicely and
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 3: they still don't care you try to be nice. They
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 3: want to fight or call the cops. I finally had
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 3: to move on top of it. He had two pitbull
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 3: husky mixes that were always in my yard, digging under
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 3: my fence, barking at the kids.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: What are we doing?
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 4: You had to move because this neighbor wouldn't stop being annoying.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, I will I noise, like excessive noise
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 4: is a thing.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 3: I am very get off my lawn about it. My
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 3: wife makes fun of me. She says I have misophonia,
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 3: the thing where like when people chew loud yeah, makes
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 3: me violently angry.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 4: My wife has the same thing. Every time I'm close
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 4: to her and I'm eating something, She's like, I can
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 4: hear you chew. I'm sorry, it's wild, right, Like even
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 4: even watching like a sporting event television, watching a movie
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 4: on television, I'm like, turn that down.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: It's weird. I just don't like loud noises.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's because I talk so loud myself and I'm
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 3: sick of hearing my own voice. I don't know, but
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 3: I William, I'm sorry that you had such a bad neighbor.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 4: So this is William from Cedar City. William is this
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 4: Did you move to Cedar from this place or was
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 4: this a different spot in Cedar City.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 2: I'm just curious. As a follow up, there. That's terrible.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: Shout out to our southern Utah listeners, by the way.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 3: Uh okay, Jordan, this one my biggest grievance right now
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 3: is seeing the billboards on the freeway telling us to
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 3: save water that yet they just approved the world's largest
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 3: AI data center which will use so much water.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 3: I think I came to this party late and I
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 3: was just like, ah, crap, another big business, stupid thing.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 3: And then I and then I realized the actual scale
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 3: of this forty thousand acres A forty thousand acre building.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: That's like a massive ranch. Yeah, but it's a building.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 3: And the amount of it, I echo your sentiment, it
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 3: is absolutely absurd. And the process by which all this
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 3: stuff was approved. I don't like to get political on
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 3: the show, but the Box Elder County residents were like
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 3: actually trying to do the thing they're supposed to do.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 3: Show up at the council meetings, voice their concerns, voice
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 3: their opinions. Hey, this is agricultural land. There's a certain
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 3: way of life here. You can't just slap down some
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 3: big concrete cube that's gonna generate all this noise and
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 3: all this heat and suck up all this water, and
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 3: they just moved the meeting to another room so they
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 3: didn't have.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: To hear about it.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 3: It's like it's super corrupt, it's super terrible, it's super
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 3: messed up. And I have a I don't know why,
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 3: I have a weird feeling that this thing is actually
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 3: not going to get built, not because it doesn't get
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: approval and not because they don't try to build it.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 3: I think that there's act like this is I think
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 3: we're talking about like a sabotage thing is gonna happen here.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 4: Oh, somebody think some of these Bee residents who are
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 4: are upset, might.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: Well, you just you can't. You just can't do that.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 3: You can't take a place that is accustomed to a
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 3: certain amount of wide open space way of life, raw
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 3: sort of landscape and expect the people there to just
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 3: be like, yeah, we'll roll over while you take all
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 3: the water that we need and generate this loud, buzzing strange.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 3: Oh and by the way, grievance to all of you
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 3: who are just like slurping up AI as rapidly as
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 3: you can, because that's why they need to build these
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 3: dang data centers. Because we're so addict to our technology now,
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 3: and I'm addicted to technology also, So I'm not alone
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 3: or I'm I'm not pointing too many fingers at you,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 3: but I am pointing just the one.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: There's three pointing back at you. Yeah, they're still pointing
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: back at me. But the one is that I'm pointing.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 3: At you is specifically for AI artificial intelligence.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 2: Use your own dang brain.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 4: That's our weekly tradition grievance against AI.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 3: Uh I've heard I've heard this one before, all echo
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 3: it again. Multi billion dollar companies asking me if I
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 3: want to round up my purchase for charity.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 2: You don't need by help.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 4: I don't mind doing that, though it's like what at
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 4: most it's like fifty cents or something.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: Well, most it would be ninety nine.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 4: I guess ninety nine, are you right? But like typically
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 4: it's like it's like fifty cents. I'm like, I'll give
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 4: fifty cents to the National Parks Foundation.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 3: Also, the reason I do it every time, I like
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 3: a nice round figure on the receipt.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 4: So they're just they're getting the suckers like you.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 3: I like it, Yet you tell me that could be
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 3: forty dollars instead of thirty nine dollars and twenty two cents.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: Heck, yeah, dude, forty bucks because you get that great
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: feeling that you get only at the gas pump. Yeah,
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 2: that's true.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 3: As a consumer, the only time you get that zero
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 3: zero zero is at the gas pump. And so if
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 3: you can be offered that at Costco, why not?
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 4: Or are you one that when you tip at a
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 4: restaurant or you know, anywhere else you might feel like
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 4: tipping because everyone's asking if you're asking you for a tip, Now,
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 4: are you one that goes and makes it? Make sure
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 4: the tip is exactly so that the total number is
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 4: it's zero zero?
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 2: Is that how you do it? It's so funny.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 3: It depends on who I'm with because if it's like, hey,
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 3: let's get moving and my kids are there, and I
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 3: don't want to take the extra three seconds to do
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 3: the mental math, I'll just I'll leave it. But if
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 3: I if I have a little bit of time, you'll think.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 2: Through, well to see it, it'd be twenty thirteen dollars
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: and thirty one cents. There you go.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 3: And that that by the way, that person, because if
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 3: you've worked in the food service industry, when you're getting
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 3: the tip out of on the credit card receipts, right,
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 3: you're taking cash out of the till, Yeah, in order
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 3: to get those tis. So they're just like, they're probably
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 3: like that idiot, I don't want that thirty one cents.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 4: I'm doing you a favor. Still, okay, you need change
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 4: get the extra thirty one. You wouldn't have that otherwise.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 4: They're probably like, I'm just gonna I don't want pennies.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna take a quarter.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 3: From Jay screevans, from people who tailgate right behind your cards,
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 3: who passed you just to be right next to it
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 3: the next red light. Oh, we have all encountered this
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 3: so many times. I hate even witnessing it, and honestly
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 3: we're probably guilty of it and sometimes ourselves. Where you're
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 3: in a big hurry, he's like, get out of the way, mare,
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 3: And then you go past that person, you zoom past them.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 3: You might even cut them off red light.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: How you doing?
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 3: Oh sorry, sorry about that.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 4: Actually avoid eye contact at all costs.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 2: I have but a bit of a hurry. I apologize.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 4: This is by the way, we confirmed Jason is from
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 4: the Babki family that you knew growing up.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's right. Shout out to the bab Kiss the
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 2: bacause of Sandy.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 3: Eight nine four four big complaint is the NBA Playoffs
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 3: being streamed on Prime and Peacock. You can't record the games,
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 3: rewind the games are fast forward the game. It absolutely sucks.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 3: It's like watching NBA basketball in the nineteen eighties.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: Is that true? You can't rewind? I could?
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 4: I'm depending on I think if you have so now
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 4: they have different kinds of Prime subscriptions. If you can
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 4: go add free, that's if you have the AD free
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 4: I think you have, like this DVR option. If you don't,
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 4: I don't that I could be wrong on that, but
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 4: I have I don't have AD free, and I'm been
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 4: able to rewind or fast.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, I maybe I'm an idiot because I don't have
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 3: AD free, And maybe I'm just assumed that I could
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 3: if I wanted to.
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 2: But you haven't tried.
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 3: I haven't actually, because like even when I'm watching live
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 3: TV on my Comcast subscription, I can rewind. Yeah, when
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 3: I'm watching live TV that has commercials.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me Amazon, whoa whoa whoa whoa? Whoa? Are you?
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: Is this real?
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 6: Am?
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: I learning this right now? Amazon?
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 3: The most lucrative company on planet Earth can't give you
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 3: a DVR feature on your Prime unless you go ad free.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 2: Get Jeff Bezos on the phone.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, Jeff, grievance against you. If that is
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 4: the case, Jeff, I need two things.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 3: I need you to block the Gigantic Data Center, and
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 3: I also need you to let people rewind on their.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 2: Prime live programming.
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 4: Jeff, Jeff Bezos, if you said block, if you said
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 4: I need you to block the Gigantic Data Center, he
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 4: would do the Morgan Freeman from from the Dark Knight
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 4: trilogy Batman. So you're asking one of the biggest tech
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 4: billionaires in the history of the world and currently in
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 4: the world to block a data center, and you think
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 4: that I will listen to you.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 2: Probably right? Good luck.
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 3: Is there a place that we need to like warm
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 3: up the environment somewhere? Is there global cooling happening?
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 3: No, Can we build this thing on the Moon and
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 3: it could heat up the eventual civilization we have there?
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Come on?
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 3: Can we can we off world this thing? We don't
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 3: need it on Earth. We don't need a box Elder County.
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you that.
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 4: Let's ruin the Moon's atmosphere. We need our atmosphere. Es
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 4: what doesn't have one?
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 2: Oh it doesn't.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 4: That's right, perfect, perfect ruin the void of space. Oh
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 4: you can't do that. Okay, great, you.
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 3: Can fart whatever exhausted into that place you want.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 4: Did you see do you see nineteen forty threes? No,
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 4: could be a Sebwe could be a segue.
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 3: Are you getting texts? I'm not getting no grievance today.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 3: Life is good. I'm just here for the OC neighbor update.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 3: Let's go, Okay, a segue. I have to air a
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 3: new grievance though. It's with Ticketmaster. It's with the NHL
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 3: partnership and Winter Classic. With Ticketmaster, that process yesterday was
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 3: the worst ticket buying process I've had in years.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 4: Ticket Master, what are you doing well? NHL should just
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 4: switch to seat Geek or something else.
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 3: Seriously, I mean, if I go to try, if I
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 3: buy tickets to the Raspberry Days rodeo in bear Lake,
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 3: it is a lot better than that. Yeah, And that's
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 3: effectively like an HTML website that somebody slapped together as
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 3: a school project.
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 2: Ticketmaster garbage process.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 4: Or if you buy tickets to to may Mania Stir
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 4: and Dirt Racing.
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 2: You won't find any pansies here. It's such a wild commercial.
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 4: Text crashed at three three nine eighty six, by the way,
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 4: for tickets.
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 3: All right, so that's it. I'm airing that grievance with Ticketmaster.
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 3: You stink and I hate you Ticketmaster?
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 2: Why did you do that?
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 3: But I guess thank you for taking my money for
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 3: the Winter Classic tickets. I don't know, James, do you
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 3: have any grievances you want to air? Are we just
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  Speaker 3: going straight to this update?
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm feeling I'm feeling unburdened. Maybe I aired
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 4: every everything at home this week.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm feeling pretty unburdened. Don't don't really
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 2: have any thing to air, but I am eager.
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  Speaker 4: To to try to solve your neighbor problem.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, let's let's solve it then.
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 4: Okay, if you're not at swifty, you gotta listen anyway,
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 4: all right, Okay, okay, okay, here's my here's here's my
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  Speaker 4: here's my I was not expected, here's my I told
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 4: you it's a productive value. Uh, here's my solution here
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 4: this weekend? You're home, right, yeah, do another lemonade stand
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  Speaker 4: with your girls on the same corner in front of
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  Speaker 4: this guy's house. All right, that's totally legal. As one
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 4: of our texters, I think it's Craig Craig. It might
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 4: have been Craig who told us about the lemonade law.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 3: And sent us the link to the official writ like
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 3: we actually we have it.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so you joked I'm gonna laminate that thing. I'm
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 4: gonna put it on his door or whatever. I think
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 4: you should do that with another lemonade stand this weekend.
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 4: Had two copies, one that you put on his door.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 4: I don't know, if he's got some kind of gait
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 4: in front of his property, you can put it on
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 4: there if you don't want to go to the door,
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 4: and then the other.
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 2: Copy taped to the table right in the middle.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, and then bring a speaker and play mean. All
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 3: you're ever gonna be is mean, dude, you know what?
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 3: I actually Taylor Swift and make sure you're there for
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 3: a few hours.
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 2: So it's extra annoying. Grape Mine's thinking, like.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 3: I suppose I.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 2: Actually did this song too.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 3: I updated, I updated my wife, and I updated our neighbor,
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 3: who was the other mother who was offended by the
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 3: terrible accosting of this moronic neighbor. She was actually holding
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 3: her infant child in her arms. Yeah, when the guy
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 3: was cursing at her, I told her. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, actually a listener on my radio show
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 3: sent us like the lemonade law, and this is totally legal.
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 2: So I propose.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, we should go set up another one and
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 3: I will sit in the chair and let the kids
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 3: sell whatever they want to sell, Like, let's do it again.
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 3: And these women are a lot more reasonable and less
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 3: confrontational than myself. And they're like, well, no, because it's
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 3: still unpleasant to have the guy come out and yell
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 3: and be rude. I'm like, oh no, but that's pleasant
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 3: because then rebuffing the rudeness is fun. But it also
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 3: you know, they're again they're motherly. They're like, why would
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 3: I take my kids anywhere near that yard ever?
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 2: Again? Yeah, yeah, you're right, you know what, that's rational.
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 4: But but someday you'll be living in a big old
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 4: city and all he's ever gonna be is me and OC,
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 4: So just remember that and miss where he knows.
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 2: That ever is me.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 4: Now, now here's a bonus thing you can do if you,
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 4: in fact get this cleared from from your wife and
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 4: the other nice neighbor, have your oldest knock on the
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 4: door and especially offer him some complimentary lemonade. Okay with
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 4: you you standing behind him or behind her, mean mugging
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 4: him while she's being extra nice, that's a no go.
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 8: No.
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 4: See, that's that's why it's a bonus. That's optional. The
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 4: rest of it's required you. You must do it this weekend.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know about the Taylor Swift song, but
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 2: the rest of it.
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 3: We were we were working on we were working on
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 3: the the yard where we're working on building the deck
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 3: in the backyard. O.
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 2: See, got it started.
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 4: Got the process started last week and we got Spotify
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 4: going and someone says, let's play Taylor Swift and I'm
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 4: I'm a little bit I'm a Taylor Swift fan, so
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm fine, fine with that. This song plays
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 4: total throwback. And I thought exactly, like, oh my gosh,
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 4: how cheesy and hilarious would that be if OC just
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 4: was in front of his house playing like telling this
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 4: guy always ever gonna be his mean?
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 2: I'm actually I'm actually ashamed of that.
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 3: One encounter has so much power over me, Like I
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 3: need to I need to get back into the like
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 3: fast paced world of fighting and training myself for something
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 3: where you're just like all the aggression is gone because ooh,
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 3: even when I think about it drives me nuts. All Right,
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 3: I gotta take a break though. Remember we are going
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 3: to give away Festival of Tease Golf in about twenty minutes.
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 3: But up next we'll talk PGA Championship with our resident
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 3: golf insider, Paul Pugmyer. It's a Sean O'Connell show on
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  Speaker 3: ESPN seven hundred and ninety twofm.
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  Speaker 1: You are tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show for the
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  Speaker 1: Murdoch Chevrolet Studio of ESPN seven hundred at ninety two
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  Speaker 1: one am, all of them.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Seat O'Connell show. Welcome in the
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  Speaker 2: president of First.
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  Speaker 3: T Utah, host of Utah Golf Radio right here on
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 3: ESPN seven hundred, Paul Pugmyer, friend of the program, to
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  Speaker 3: check in on the PGA Championship.
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  Speaker 8: How are you aot? How are you doing?
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 2: I'm great? How are things, sir, Paul? You got me? Yeah?
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, that's weird, okay, I'm I'm should have a
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 8: good signal. How are we doing.
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 2: Oh great, how are you, sir?
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 8: Fantastic? There's a major going on. How's life not great?
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 3: It's well, It's been an interesting one to watch so far.
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 3: And one of the reasons I love talking these majors,
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 3: especially with you, is your encyclopedic knowledge of the courses
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 3: and how these courses are playing. Now that we're in
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 3: day two, what are you making of? What are you
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 3: making of this one?
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 8: The ghost of Donald Ross wants to see these guys work.
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 8: It is so fun to see Donald Ross, one of
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  Speaker 8: the most prolific and impactful golf course architects in the
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 8: history of the game. He his fingerprints are everywhere, and
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 8: he calls Ironomic. He called Ironomic his masterpiece. He thought
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 8: this was his best work. And there have been times
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 8: when the course was not set up to its full potential.
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 8: It was hosting a pro event and the scores were low.
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 8: Nobody's having any of that week. These players the greatest
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 8: in the world. The full potential of Ironomic is on display,
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 8: and I am loving it.
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 2: So give me a sense of what that what that
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 2: looks like?
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  Speaker 3: What are the differentiating factors of this course?
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 2: In particular?
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  Speaker 8: Couple things. First of all, Ross really made use of slope.
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 8: There there's you'll see chime again left to right, right,
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 8: left side slopes on the fairways where players will hit
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 8: a ball that in the air is tracking up the fairway,
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 8: but it lands on the wrong part of the fairway,
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 8: takes a slope and kicks down into the rough. Yeah,
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 8: that tournament organizers have made the rough very strong and
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 8: deep and thick, and so that is a penal shot
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 8: right there. And then a Donald Ross characteristic is crowned
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 8: greens that you hear the term a turtleback green, false fronts,
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 8: false sides, and where the ball can be on the
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 8: green for a minute but run away. And that is
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 8: very much at Donald Gross thing, and it's in full
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 8: display at ernom Ink. And there are both turtleback greens
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 8: and there are greens with simply severe slopes on them.
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 8: Number eleven in particular is so severely sloped, and these
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 8: greens are running at about thirteen on a stemp meter.
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 8: You combine all that with some firmness that they have
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 8: achieved this week, and it's really really difficult. It leads
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 8: to a situation where you can hit the ball in
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 8: the fairway and be ount of position. You can hit
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 8: the ball on a green and be ound of position
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 8: because the next shots are so severely demanding. This course
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 8: is asking a lot, and so far players are only
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 8: able to answer so much.
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 2: So whose style is best suited to this particular course?
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 3: I guess I should just look at the leaderboard for
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 3: the answer to that question, But there might be a
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 3: surprise or two up there.
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 8: You know, you know the PGA Championship for reasons I've
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 8: never fully known that it comes about again and again
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 8: in history. This tends to be the major championship where
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 8: first time major wins emerge, and so it will never
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 8: be a surprise when somebody didn't have on your radar
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 8: going into the week is the one who comes ount
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 8: of it with a trophy At the PGA. It doesn't
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 8: happen as much in the other majors, but it happens
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 8: more in the PGA, so it's not a surprise to
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 8: see some names on the leaderboard who are not household names.
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 8: On the other hand, we also see names on the
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 8: leaderboard that are major champion winners and have proved that
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 8: they know how to manage the demands of a major
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 8: championship and emerge victorious. So you ask what kind of
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 8: game is best suited to this. I'm going to take
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 8: a step back from a physical game because the running
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 8: ink will both test and reward different types of physical games.
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 8: But what it is absolutely demanding is a player that
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 8: is patient, that is not trying to force the course
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 8: to give up more than it is willing to give up,
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 8: that is not trying to take what to make pars,
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 8: make another par in another part until finally a moment
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 8: emerges to go for the birdie, and so they execute
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 8: it then. But this is very much like Muhammad Ali
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 8: doing ropid Dope, sitting back waiting for the opening and
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 8: just waiting and waiting and waiting and then striking. That
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 8: waiting part is really hard and a lot of players
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 8: will have a hard time doing it. That's the player
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 8: that will be rewarded this week.
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 3: I have to sneak this in because we were laughing
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 3: about earlier when John Rahm hit somebody volunteer with a divot. Yeah, obviously,
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 3: you know, nothing comes with something like that when somebody,
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 3: if somebody does get hurt in the gallery or you know,
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 3: an errant drive smack someone, is there an insurance policy
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 3: covered by like by the player, the course, the tour
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 3: is there, Like if there's something like a settlement, if
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 3: there's a medical expense that needs to be paid, who
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 3: is the insurance policy underdo all these players have to
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 3: carry that around like a doctor does malpractice insurance?
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah, not the players, but the tournament organizers. Now, if
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 8: you get down a magnifying blast and a bright light,
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 8: you can read on the back of your ticket really
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 8: tiny information, tiny print about how by using this card
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 8: you accept all liability. But the reality is the tournaments
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 8: carry the liability insurance, and so it would be the
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 8: tournament organizers that would that would deal with that. I
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 8: do want to give wrong a shout out for how
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 8: he responded to that situation. What he did was unseemly
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 8: and unprofessional, but he completely owned it. He said, that's
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 8: on me. I was wrong. I apologize, and as soon
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 8: as we're done here, I'm going to go find that
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 8: man and talk to him in person. I wish I
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 8: would not have done that. I can tell you I've
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 8: got a long list of things I wish I would
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 8: not have done in my life. But John Rahm stood
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 8: up and with a grown man and accepted responsibility, and
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 8: he's dealing with it. I ad mind of that it
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 8: was wrong. He's done it right in response, and we
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 8: can move on.
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 3: How much of what's happening with Roy McElroy is is
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 3: that the problem with he's having with his foot, the
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 3: blister or whatever, and how much is just a bad day?
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 8: I think he's just struggling with the driver. Look, the
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 8: slopes on these fairways requires absolute pinpoint precision with the driver,
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 8: and Rory can be on There's no question this man
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 8: can be and free is the greatest driver of the
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 8: golf ball on the planet. But not every day, and
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 8: he certainly wasn't yesterday, and he had he had a
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 8: bad day on the wrong the wrong time, on the
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 8: wrong course, and it showed on his scorecard those four
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 8: bogies in a row to finish. Yeah, that was not pretty.
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 3: Not related to the PGA Championship, But other big news
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 3: that we got, the Utah State Amateur Champ gets to
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 3: play in the PGA Tours Bank of Utah Championship this
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 3: fall at Black Desert. So just a huge opportunity for
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 3: the Utah State Amateur Champ. Does it add a couple
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 3: more names to the field, like what are what's the
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 3: impact of this this opportunity going to be for the
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 3: State Amateur Championship.
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 8: What a great question. I can't wait to see how
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 8: this plays out. First of all, MAD props to Black
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 8: Desert and Bank of Utah for doing this with the UGA.
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 8: I'm really interested, really excited to see the State Am
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 8: champ tee it up and that on that stage against
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 8: those players on that course. That'll be an awfully lot
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 8: of fun to watch. And State Am champs tend to
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 8: be college players who are normally planning to build a
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 8: pro career anyway, so this will be an incredible opportunity
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 8: if you know, in fact the State Am champions up
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 8: being one of those players again, it'll be an incredible opportunity,
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 8: a great stepping stone and a measuring time in that
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 8: player's development. But it's just going to be fun to
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 8: watch and fun to see. I'm really looking forward to it.
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 2: Who's gonna end up victorious in this weekend's tournament?
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 8: Great question. Look, I think when you look at that leaderboard,
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 8: first of all, at the end of yesterday's play, and
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 8: they're still out on the course as you and I
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 8: are talking right now, so we don't know how Day
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 8: two will fall. But at the end of day one
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 8: at the end of yesterday, there were forty eight players
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 8: within three shots of the lead. That's the most ever
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 8: in the history of all the majors all time, which
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 8: means that it can be anybody, and everybody's in position
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 8: to make a splash if they can put up a
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 8: good number today and go into the weekend and do
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 8: it again. But you have to look at players who
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 8: have proven they can do it. And you look on
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 8: the leader board and you see names like Scotti, Scheffler,
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 8: Xander Schoffley, Patrick Reid, see Deki Manciyama. You see players
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 8: who have won majors, who have proved they can withstand
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 8: this crucible and walk out the other side. Those are
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 8: the players you have to start looking at, and then
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 8: after that look at players who are ready to become
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 8: starved again. The PGA Championship tends to be a place
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 8: where players who are ready to become stars do so.
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 8: And the name I like there is min Wu Lee.
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 8: You look at this guy. He's got all of the components,
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 8: all of the pieces and parts, all of the characteristics
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 8: to be a star. He just needs to take the
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 8: step and grab it. This might be the week that
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 8: Minwu Lee does that.
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 3: Paul, I love picking your brain about golf. You're an
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 3: encyclopedia of knowledge, and thanks so much for once again
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 3: offering your expertise on our show.
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 8: Oh you're sure welcome, always fun. Thank you for having me.
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 3: Paul Pugmyer, President of First t Utah, Host of Utah
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• 2:19:55
  Speaker 3: PGA Tour leaderboard update at the PGA Championship is brought
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  Speaker 4: Wu Lei, who you just heard Paul Pugmyer shout out
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  Speaker 4: as a as a dark horse candidate to win this tournament.
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  Speaker 4: He's looking looking pretty strong so far. Two shots off
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  Speaker 2: Oh see.
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  Speaker 4: Cameron Young in there, Scottie Scheffler in there, Jason Days
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  Speaker 4: in there, Brooks Koepka is in there.
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  Speaker 2: Uh Kopka by.
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  Speaker 4: The way, feeling really good about how he left Live
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  Speaker 4: Golf was it last year, well before the Saudi money,
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  Speaker 4: uh dried up and doing pretty well so far in.
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  Speaker 2: The top ten.
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  Speaker 4: No Tony no Tony Fenaw in this field did did
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  Speaker 4: not qualify. And you heard John Wright yesterday, oh see
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  Speaker 4: talk about typically because PGA Championship is for your a
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  Speaker 4: lot of your local golf pros get to play in
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  Speaker 4: this too. PGA of America guys, and we got a
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  Speaker 4: ton of great ones here in Utahn for the first
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  Speaker 4: time in a really long time. Unfortunately those guys did
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  Speaker 4: not qualify, so we don't have any any of local
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  Speaker 4: golf pros in the field either. That's usually that's usually
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  Speaker 4: a fun story. So tough for our local guys not
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  Speaker 4: in the field, but all Rich Popkeater your leader, the
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  Speaker 4: South African at five unders so far. That's your PGA
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  Speaker 4: Tour leaderboard update, brought to you by you went to golf.
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  Speaker 2: Well done, James, well done, you went to golf.
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  Speaker 3: All right, We're gonna give away a round of golf
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  Speaker 3: to Nibley Park courtesy of our Festival of Teas, brought
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  Speaker 3: Mountain Home Services. I've got a trivia question for you.
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  Speaker 3: It's not gonna be a golf trivia question. It's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be a hockey trivia question.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 3: The Vegas Golden Knights advanced to the Western Conference Finals.
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  Speaker 3: They will take on the Colorado Avalanche. There's been one
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  Speaker 3: player in particular for the Las Vegas Golden Knights who's
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  Speaker 3: been an absolute nightmare in these playoffs, and he was
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  Speaker 3: against the Utah Mammoth as well. The trivia question may
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  Speaker 3: or may not be related to him.
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  Speaker 2: Wink wink.
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  Speaker 3: It's a Sean O'Connell show on ESPN seven hundred and
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  Speaker 1: Gods, you were listening to the Sean O'Connell Show from
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  Speaker 9: Today's toms eigh on you when the space invasing gets by.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Shawn O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 3: I have the Round of Golf to Nibley Park courtesy
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  Speaker 3: of the Festival of Teas powered by the Utah Golf
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  Speaker 3: Association and Mountain Home Services. The Las Vegas Golden Knights
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  Speaker 3: eliminated the Anaheim Ducks last night. They advanced to take
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  Speaker 3: on the Colorado Avalanche in the NHL Western Conference Finals.
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  Speaker 3: So somebody already texted in an answer to the trivia
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  Speaker 3: question I haven't even asked yet.
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  Speaker 2: Well done, I like seven seven sixty one.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate you trying to get ahead of by predicting
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  Speaker 3: what my question is going to be.
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  Speaker 2: However, you're wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Currently, the playoff goal scoring leader is a man on
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  Speaker 3: the Vegas Golden Knights, and he was really good against
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  Speaker 3: the Utah Mammoth. He has continued to be good in
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  Speaker 3: these twenty twenty six NHL Stanley Cup playoffs. Who is
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  Speaker 3: the current goals leader only in the playoffs this year.
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  Speaker 3: Who is the current goals leader? Hint, hint, it is
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  Speaker 3: one of the Vegas Golden Knights, really good players, who
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  Speaker 3: was a thorn in the side of the Utah Mammoth.
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  Speaker 4: They have the seven three five three zero seven hundred.
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  Speaker 4: They have the points leader too. Different guy. Yes, like
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  Speaker 4: they're they're on fire right now. I'm not sure they're
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  Speaker 4: good enough to beat the Avs, but they're one of
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  Speaker 4: those teams. I'll see that when they when you watch them,
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  Speaker 4: whether it's whether it's NBA, NHL, NFL, when you watch
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  Speaker 4: them play in the regular season, you're like, you're good,
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  Speaker 4: but like, you disappoint me too much. And then they
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  Speaker 4: get to the playoffs because they have a lot of
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  Speaker 4: veterans and they're like, well, we're just we have We're
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  Speaker 4: gonna lean on our experience and we're going to figure
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  Speaker 4: out ways to win. And it feels like the Sea
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  Speaker 4: there's no there's no ceiling for a team like that.
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  Speaker 4: That's how about the Golden Knights field this year's playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy because they actually have the top three goal
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  Speaker 3: scorers in the league in these playoffs. So the top
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  Speaker 3: three are all Nights, and none of those three are
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  Speaker 3: the guy who sells the most jerseys.
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  Speaker 2: So you can make a little hint for you there.
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  Speaker 3: You can make an argument that the star of the
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  Speaker 3: team is not the guy leading in goals.
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  Speaker 2: Playoff goals second or third.
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  Speaker 3: And the points leader that you just referenced is one
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  Speaker 3: of the three. But we're we're asking for the goals
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  Speaker 3: leader in this current playoff.
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  Speaker 2: It's frustrating because we hate Vegas.
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  Speaker 3: Now, oh, I can't stand you in your stupid heel
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  Speaker 3: of monster mascot, and we got it.
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  Speaker 4: I actually think it's a cool mascot, but whatever, and
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  Speaker 4: we and now the alternative is rooting for the Avs.
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  Speaker 4: No go Eastern Conference, all right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're I guess Canadians or Hurricanes or Sabers.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I either have to root for a French
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  Speaker 3: Canadian team, although I have good experiences in Montreal, so
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  Speaker 3: maybe that's where I would have to go.
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  Speaker 2: A Buffalo team or.
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  Speaker 3: The team with the worst logo in all of professional
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  Speaker 3: sports in the East, or are two regional rivals in
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  Speaker 3: the West. It's you're damned if you do You're damned
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  Speaker 3: if you don't.
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  Speaker 4: Bad options, at least the last couple of years, you
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  Speaker 4: had a really fun Connor McDavid leon Dry Sidle Oilers
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  Speaker 4: team that could just score a lot of goals. Or
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  Speaker 4: if you like the physicality of the hockey, physicality you
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  Speaker 4: had like you had the Florida Anthers bullying everybody like
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  Speaker 4: this year, It's just like, I don't know, it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: seem like great options unless you're a fan of one
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  Speaker 4: of those teams.
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  Speaker 3: Made a big deal out of the start of the
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  Speaker 3: show today talking about how fascinating it is that the
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  Speaker 3: NFL has eventized everything, and I think it's a it's
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  Speaker 3: a method that every league should follow, that every sports property,
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  Speaker 3: every entertainment property, should property should follow. I'm gonna have
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  Speaker 3: this exact discussion in a real in a more measured
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  Speaker 3: and serious way with my bosses at the PFL, because
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  Speaker 3: I think it's really important that you manufacture some level
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  Speaker 3: of hype around an event that you're seeing the best
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  Speaker 3: example of this this weekend. This will be the last
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  Speaker 3: thing I talked about before we turn it over to
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  Speaker 3: the Drive. The Ronda Rouse Eugina Carano Fights headlining the
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  Speaker 3: MVP Promotions card, Mike Perry, Nick Diaz Francis, and Gohan
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  Speaker 3: Felipe Linz, who I love Felipe Lens. Felipe Lens actually
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  Speaker 3: won the heavyweight championship of the PFL the same year
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  Speaker 3: I won the light heavyweight championship.
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  Speaker 2: He's a really good fighter.
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  Speaker 3: He's being brought in to be sacrificed to Francis and Ganu,
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  Speaker 3: so that fight's not expected to be good. Gina Carano
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  Speaker 3: and rond de Rousi have combined twenty seven years since
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  Speaker 3: their last MMA fight, and Mike Perry Nick Diaz will
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  Speaker 3: probably be pretty fun, but I don't think either guy
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  Speaker 3: is getting finished in that one. The reason I bring
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  Speaker 3: this up is like, the fights are not gonna be great.
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  Speaker 3: It's just they got famous people to headline these things,
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  Speaker 3: and then they've built this whole thing around it, and
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  Speaker 3: it makes it feel like an event. And because Netflix
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  Speaker 3: is involved, and Netflix has the budget to just be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: put them on everything, let's go.
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  Speaker 4: And apparently Jake Paul and his team and MVP Productions
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  Speaker 4: are just incredible with this.
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  Speaker 2: That's what they're good at.
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  Speaker 3: Like Jake Paul is the example is he makes it
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  Speaker 3: an event. You knew that Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson
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  Speaker 3: was not gonna be compelling boxing, you still wanted to
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  Speaker 3: watch it. Now they're trying to do it with MMA,
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  Speaker 3: and the fights aren't good. Like I'm telling you, the
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  Speaker 3: fights are not gonna be good, not the big ones,
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  Speaker 3: not the headliners. There's actually the USA debut of a
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  Speaker 3: really good fighter named Saladin Parnasse.
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  Speaker 2: You should try to watch him. But the headliner is
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  Speaker 2: gonna suck.
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  Speaker 3: And yet you and I will be watching it and
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  Speaker 3: we will be talking about how it looked and what
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  Speaker 3: it ended up being on Monday because the event is
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  Speaker 3: what we're really looking for. We are sports fans, yes,
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  Speaker 3: but we are event fans even more in the United
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  Speaker 3: States of America, and the NFL understands that better than anybody.
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  Speaker 3: I need for Utah football, Utah basketball, Big twelve everything
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  Speaker 3: to somehow adopt that strategy.
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  Speaker 4: I have to shout out one of our Texters on
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  Speaker 4: the way out, I think totally on purpose, not a
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  Speaker 4: typo at all. The winner the the the answer trivia
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  Speaker 4: question is not Jack Eichel, this this Texter. It was
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  Speaker 4: Kurt texting Jack Suckle with the ch spelling. I think
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  Speaker 4: that was totally on purpose. Shout out to you, Kurt.
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  Speaker 4: You did not win, but shout out to you it
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  Speaker 4: did not autocorrect to that. Well done.
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  Speaker 3: It's Pablo Doorfiev. He's been awesome. All right, we'll turn
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  Speaker 3: you over to the drive of Spence check ituts. He's
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  Speaker 3: in West Bountiful today at Murdoch Chrysler, Jeep Dodge. So
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  Speaker 3: swing by test drive a car, Tell Spence helow and
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  Speaker 3: enjoy the show. Have a great weekend. Everybody will do
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  Speaker 3: it again on Monday. Shan O'Connell Show, ESPN seven hundred
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