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Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles REPLAY 082026 -Michael Badnarik, Benton Partin, and the Hidden Rules of the Game · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

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  Unknown: Platch
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  Unknown: Well, with those old familiar Alvin Lee
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  super prophetic insightful lyrics,
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  we'll roll off the Valentine's
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  Day edition of the show here today.
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  A Thursday and it is of course the fourteenth, the mythical, magical Valentine's
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  Day and if you've got a significant other, you better take heed.
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  If you didn't know it already, take heed
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  to make your life a lot easier.
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  Roger Sales, obviously, Radio Ranch, a little people's patriot network,
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  fledgling radio network. I guess we could that or you could consider it a
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  bundle of podcasts
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  in the newer lexicon
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  or whatever. I like to envision it as a radio program because that's what I think
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  it is, you know,
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  even though we're using a little different medium and we certainly got a much longer reach than we ever did of any radio station I was ever associated with.
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  It's a pleasure to be here and do this and look forward to having this as the center part of my day and
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  many of you do too. I don't know that all of you do, but certainly I think some of you do from what you've told me and I'm glad you're out there and
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  we've got this platform and this forum
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  to discuss these things that are of utmost importance.
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  Gosh, I don't know almost where to start. Lot of stuff flying in there. And
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  it's just been
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  what's the word I want? Just a continuous stream of events and
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  with heightening with intensity and importance, I guess,
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  to all going to escalate it someday in the future here when we'll be getting together and talking about the calamity that
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  is not on the threshold but in our house at that point and I don't know what day that's going to be trying to prepare for it of course and and make the right moves where maybe you could turn it from a disadvantaged
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  event for most into an advantaged event for us.
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  Us and ours, you're in urine.
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  So,
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  let's see. What that's unusual.
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  Chris hadn't checked in with us yet. I hope usually does here as of late. Hope he's not
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  thrown in some some deal somewhere. I'm sure we'll probably hear from him at some point. He may be out filing paperwork or hell may have to be in court today. Don't know.
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  Do know that it's a good day if you're some of these people, the Thomas, Thomas joined us yesterday, one of our new
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  contact out there. The group he's kind of put together over the years and a Facebook group and a group in Texas and
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  of course, I did a conference call with them here a few weeks ago and laid the laid the program out for them and so if any of you guys have any
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  questions, I know people are reading the book there in that group and discussing the concepts and if any of you have a a question that you'd like to get answered, this is a good time to do it here for everybody and I always encourage everyone.
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  Want to get you on the side. See and
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  just and I don't mind doing that. I'd every person that becomes
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  a member of our ranks.
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  Can we put it like that?
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  Every person that becomes a member of our ranks is important.
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  To the effort and you never know what somebody's going to bring to bear in the battle.
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  Either immediately or down the line. You just don't know those things. The
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  example that I think
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  always comes to my mind,
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  mentioned it this week already briefly,
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  out of the 1,200 students John and Glenn had us in the six months they were teaching this,
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  I was the only one that took this information further.
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  Everybody else, eleven ninety
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  nine of them went on about their lives
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  because in some instances the problem had been solved,
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  but for whatever reason they didn't
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  focus on this.
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  And how would John and Glenn have ever known that when they made this stop in Atlanta,
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  this dumb kid would stumble into the meeting,
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  go through the course, and then
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  take
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  their information up to a whole new level, which is the master key pretty much seems like to me, as far as I can tell, in all honesty,
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  it's
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  a master key for these people's scheme.
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  When the key is placed in the lock and turned,
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  it opens doors apparently,
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  and that they cannot or will not or shall not close.
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  That could change.
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  Well only under one circumstance
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  is that they're ready to take the mask off.
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  That's the only way that will change is that the point, if there is a point when they're ready to take the mask off,
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  then all bets are off, but as of now, and I think and I see the reasons why,
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  they have a system of law and they hang
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  their operational
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  hat on it,
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  And that peg on the wall,
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  they pretty much follow,
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  pretty much follow,
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  especially in the bigger questions like these,
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  to the tee.
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  It's
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  just that we've never known what that game was before.
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  So that's the important ones. The real basic and
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  in the search thing put the science of law,
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  And unless you YouTube has stripped it off of there, I don't know if they have, I don't think they have, they don't
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  you know, the my Ed Ed Snowden video is still on there.
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  I guess because I'm not talking about
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  whatever the event.
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  It's up there. The secret's a lot up there. I don't know who did it.
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  Thank you though if you're listening.
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  But all those real important conceptual basis
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  that they don't that they intentionally.
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  They intentionally have taken out law school curriculums in our country
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  and
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  that are indispensable
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  for your total complete
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  mastery. Let's use
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  that
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  glass hopper.
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  Look at there. It's Chris calling in. Well, now when when nobody else is on, we do get that Skype noise, and you can't turn it off. But if anybody else calls, we don't get that from here on out. Good morning, Chris. Did you hear me talking about you?
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  Unknown: I'm afraid I did not. I had oh, was that ever exciting yesterday? I tell you,
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  I I I had a hard time from not bursting out into laughter when the judge testified from the bench proudly
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  that the Chinese lady said, I'm a US citizen.
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  Unknown: So the the China no. Hold on. You gotta give us a little clarification.
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  The
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  Chinese lady, was that the federal prosecutor?
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  Unknown: Oh, No. No. No. She's just a little herring administrative
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  tyrannical
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  traffic czar. Okay.
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  Unknown: And she said you were a citizen of The United States
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  Unknown: or a No. She testified
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  she was.
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  Okay. Well, good.
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  Good for her. I thought she was she
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  was test
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  encompassing
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  that invokes constitutional diversity of citizenship.
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  Unknown: I think that's article four section three clause two, but I'm not positive on that one. Okay. Let's see here. Thomas is gonna join us, I think. Well, so you had that little deal after the show yesterday,
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  Unknown: yes, I did as a matter of fact. I did quite a few. Lots of little intrigues to happen yesterday.
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  Unknown: Wow. Well, you're going to have to fill us in on it. Let me make sure we get Thomas hooked up here. We're trying to get the Skype handshake. There
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  he is. I think he just came in. Hey, Thomas. Good morning from the heart of Texas. My god.
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  Here
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  comes Texas riding to the rescue for us, guys.
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  Thomas, we're gonna we're gonna hear what happened to Chris yesterday
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  because he had some exciting
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  personally.
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  Yep.
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  Where's what's all the noise coming in the background?
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  Unknown: I had my other speaker on. Okay. Geared it. Thank you. Thank you.
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  Unknown: Chris, so you had to go to court yesterday after the show, correct? On this is a traffic thing from when they tried to corner you in that
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  seven eleven store parking lot or what?
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  Unknown: Well, yeah. This is the fallout from the pretextual
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  traffic stop under the allegation that I willfully intentionally evaded a traffic control device. K. No basis to that whatsoever. That had no contemplation
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  in my mind that day.
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  But the,
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  you know, the officers always pretend they can read your mind without any basis for it. And so that was their version of facts about having anything to do with the reality of the situation,
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  which was pretty extenuating and mitigating, but,
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  it's really kinda crazy watching them try to manipulate,
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  try to microscopically
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  box you in and try to avoid the manifest
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  circumstances
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  that over
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  connect the whole scenario to
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  the
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  jurisdictional
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  Department of Homeland Security, FBI,
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  multi local jurisdictional state, federal, and county, and municipality,
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  and NGO,
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  jurisdictional implications which violate the, Smith Act, Graham Lanham Act, the Sherman Antitrust Act, Taft Hartley Act, and the Pinkerton Act, and they're probably war crimes using military forces against the Sweden population and the UN's
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  Well,
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  Unknown: you know, Chris, the thing is, I'm a, can we start a pool and take up a contribution to get Chris a new phone?
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  Unknown: Well,
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  that's something you guys will do. I'm not soliciting.
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  Unknown: Well, we're the we're the ones that have to deal with the with the cutouts and stuff and I've come to the conclusion over many months. I think it's your phone
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  but
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  regardless,
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  you know, you're you're not in the average
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  American's petri dish out there. You know?
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  That lives in a city that is called Las Vegas, okay?
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  And the obvious corruption and the money and everything else that flows through there. So
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  Chris' case is not average, quote, unquote.
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  Unknown: I'll say. In fact,
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  before
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  I went to
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  Unknown: Well, now hold on. Now we're getting all kinds of Sir, the city is
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  Chris, what are you doing? Are you in a car? Are you moving? Are you at home? Where are you?
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  Unknown: I'm sitting at the exact same spot that I usually sit every morning when I talk to you, so I don't know what's going on that is different today. We do have some sock in weather here the past day or two. That could have some effects on it, I suppose.
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  Unknown: Did you see when when I asked you the other day, are you about thirty, forty feet from the router, or are you close to the router?
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  You're are you talking through the cell phone? Thanks. So you're talk here's why here's what's going on. You're calling the number to the station,
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  and that means you're using your regular cellular carrier. Right?
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  Unknown: If you wanted to call me back and use a different system, that might I don't relieve some of the I don't know that it would be using a different system. I think it'd be using almost the same system.
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  Unknown: Anyway, you know what happens is is when you just come in that it gets real garbled and when you start talking, it kind of straightens out but it's the initial thing and when you're having a dialogue and asking a question or getting short answers, it's kind of
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  distracting
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  but that's okay. You know, we'll dance with the girl that brung us, alright? So finish your little deal. I wanna find out what's going on with Thomas out there in Tejas. Go ahead, Chris.
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  Unknown: Well, yesterday, I was turning in my discovery papers to the opposition party, the city attorney's
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  office today, and
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  the the lady at the gate, she's an older lady. She's a very helpful, and she she kinda likes me when we have some fun. I laugh a little bit when I'm doing it. This big tall,
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  well clothed
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  silver headed guy in a nice suit comes in. He's got a county badge hanging around his neck, and, he's having some dialogue with her. And, of course, I'm sitting there and being patient for to do my stuff. And
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  he had a real good voice and a nice deep resonant.
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  Asked him
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  over television. He says, what?
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  He said, I actually did try out to be an announcer for the Chicago Cubs. I'm from Chicago. And he said, I I didn't do that, but I I get that all the time in my life. People telling me about my voice and stuff. And so,
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  you know, and it was nice, you know, and we were just being
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  Cordial. On one another. Yeah. Cordial.
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  Right.
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  Well, so I
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  That clipping is thing with this county guy.
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  And I had the impression he was probably a high level chief counsel of some sort.
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  And being from Chicago kinda
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  substantiated
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  that supposition.
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  And so I made my way on down then to go to The US Dis the, Nevada eighth Circuit District Court's administrative office where they take complaints on judges and stuff because I
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  guess the day before whenever I had made that last ditch chip, they wouldn't take my supreme court,
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  appeal on an exigent base. I had to mail it in at their ostentatious white elephant,
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  apparently
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  non par staff
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  albatross building.
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  I went on
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  to this office here to get this. Like, I just pretty quick on
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  pulling
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  things out of my posterior and
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  Chris. You are just
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  Unknown: back. I'm it's a it's a terrible we had terrible fidelity. You're cutting in and out. I can't even understand the story. Let me try and call you back and okay?
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  Please do. Alright. So hang up. I'll call you right back. We'll get Thomas. He's gonna be on with us. Hey, Thomas.
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  Hey, Roger. How you doing, buddy? Well, I'd be doing better if we could get some of this technical crap straightened out, and it just
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  upsets me, but you can't do much about it. So let me see if maybe calling him back will straighten it out.
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  You guys progressing on getting your arms around this info out there?
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  Unknown: Oh, yeah. I'm I'm making waves, buddy.
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  You ever heard of a gentleman named
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  Michael
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  Badnaric
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  from Texas? Yep.
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  Unknown: No, I'm not. It doesn't ring the bell for me. Yeah, Chris, you're back on. He is
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  Unknown: he is like huge here in Texas and has been doing
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  videos on YouTube and I wanna say he's a teacher or something at one of the colleges.
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  But he teaches the constitution
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  and he
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  deplores
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  asking
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  his servant for permission. So, he's been without
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  let's say he's been free.
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  I I hate to say, I hate to use that term. He's been without
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  a permission slip from government but that's what it is
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  But,
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  our founders didn't require permission.
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  Unknown: Well, yeah. If,
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  Unknown: if a servant came up and asked him something ridiculous, they would throw something back at him like,
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  are you lost?
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  You know?
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  Or shoot them.
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  And they were that radical back in the day. And we have become so complacent
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  and so herd mentality
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  like
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  that we think if you don't have that permission slip from your servant,
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  then you're
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  a
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  psycho,
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  some kind of other
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  crazy name they've picked up on the Internet,
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  tinfoil hat wearing, whatever.
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  But
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  that's not America,
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  you know, to ask permission from your servant. And I like to explain it to people like,
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  so, if I hire somebody to come clean my house and
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  I go shopping and I come back and they have a gun on me telling me I need permission to come in my own house
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  or permission to walk through my own house, then I need to get that permission slip, right? And they kinda get it that way, you know? They're like, yeah, this is our house.
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  This is our country. It's not theirs. They work for us. But it takes repetitive
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  It's
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  motions
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  to get these people to think about it in the correct way because we've all been in this
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  Unknown: days of, Yeah. It's a let me tell you what it is. Thomas, I'll tell you exactly what it is. It's not a daze. It's something intentional.
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  It's called Pavlovian
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  conditioning
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  and they're masters at it. Okay?
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  And did if you Right. Did you read that part in my book about that stuff? I put it in the book.
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  Unknown: The book is on its way right now. I've been reading
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  Unknown: the PDF forever. No. No. You want it? I I keep losing my place, so I've got the book on its way right now. Okay. Well, that's good. It's good to have a hard copy of this and get your marker too, by But the
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  if you haven't ever heard me tell this story, let me tell you what the source of it first, okay? Because the source is unimpeachable,
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  and the source was several
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  hours and meetings that I had with a guy named
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  retired brigadier general Benton p t Parton. Have you ever heard of him?
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  The name Parton sounds familiar, but I think it's more from Dolly. Okay. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, she certainly pops to mind, but this guy was not related.
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  He came to the forefront after the Murrah
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  Building bombing in Oklahoma City,
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  and the reason that he came to such national prominence
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  after that incident was because he was considered to be the expert's expert on munitions
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  in the entire country,
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  and the reason he had achieved that status
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  was because he was the head for years and founded
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  a system of the Air Force called the Weapon Systems Division
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  from its inception,
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  and that division was designed
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  to look fifty years in the future and try and get a grasp of the kind of weapons that we'll be needing to fight whatever enemy we'll be fighting at that point.
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  Real, real sharp guy, okay?
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  And he did the original
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  reports
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  that he's retired, lived over across the river in Virginia,
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  and he hand delivered the report that he did on the Murrah Building to every representative
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  and senator in Congress.
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  What he did was he proved that an amphobomb
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  could not taken down that building and he did it with scientific proof. Of course, none of them were going to listen to it but regardless, that's where he came from. So, I had a a chance to spend some time with him one on one actually for three or four hours in Atlanta but hearing talk, we brought him to Atlanta. I saw him speak and heard him speak a few times and he had two talks. One on all this Murrah City stuff and then another one on communism because he's an expert on communism
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  but when he started that weapon systems division,
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  he said to himself and they just they tapped him and said, start this. Here's your what your your job requirements are, what you're supposed to be doing and he said, well, the first thing I had to figure out was who the hell we're going to be fighting in fifty years and
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  so he said, the communist were the big enemy and I figured they're going to be that way too then fifty years. So, I started studying communism
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  and in studying communism,
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  he stumbled on this information I'm about to tell you that I would challenge you to find anywhere,
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  but like I said, the source is unimpeachable,
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  and
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  they have scrubbed this so thoroughly.
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  Everybody is familiar with Pavlov's experiments, right? Take the dog, ring the bell, put the food down.
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  Get to a point, go through it enough times where you ring the bell, don't put the food down, the dog salivates.
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  That's the first stage of Pavlov's experiments,
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  and that's the ones we all get taught.
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  What we don't get taught, Thomas,
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  is the second and third stages of that experiment,
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  And I tell you, I challenge you to try and find it anywhere on the web, anybody that's listening, because to my knowledge,
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  I don't know that you can find it, but if it wasn't coming from Benton P. Parton,
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  I wouldn't know this and neither would you, In
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  the second stage of those experiments,
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  Thomas, they took the same dog in the same room
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  and they conditioned him to turning on the light switch.
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  The response
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  was that when they turned on the light, they beat him with a stick.
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  There's
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  a truck going by, tell him hello, tell him get some biscuits and gravy down at the next stop. So they'd take and switch that light on, and they beat the dog with a stick, and the only way he could get relief was they'd put a parallel board to the floor over in the corner and the dog could dive under that and he wouldn't get the beatings.
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  So they take the second stage of the experiment
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  and they condition him to turn on the light and getting over under the board.
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  So now they move to the third stage of the experiment, Thomas,
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  and they take the same dog in the same room, and they turn on the light and they ring the bell simultaneously
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  at the same time.
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  What do you think the dog did?
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  Unknown: I've I've read this before, but I can't remember.
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  Unknown: Well, the dog stood in the middle of the room and he shook
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  and today,
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  in psychobabble
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  circles,
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  they call that a catatonic
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  state.
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  That's Where we are. Where you are along well, not you, but the majority of your fellow countrymen are right there. Now, an interesting thing
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  about Pavlovian conditioning,
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  I heard some guys on a radio show years ago that were experts in it, and they said something real interesting.
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  They said the more conditions you put on a subject,
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  the deeper the conditioning takes effect.
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  Yep.
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  So, all these news stories and all these things happening everywhere,
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  people don't understand what's happening. They have no earthly idea that they've been
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  Pavlovianized
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  and they sit there heaping these things on em and they sit there and shake in the middle of the road or the room or the work space
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  in a catatonic state and act like automatons.
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  Does that make some sense of what's going on?
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  Unknown: Oh, yeah. It's made sense to me for a long time that
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  and there's a
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  quote that I always
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  Unknown: quote
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  Unknown: and people don't even know that they don't know what's going on.
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  And
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  Noam Chomsky says it best. People not only don't know what's happening to them, they don't even know that they don't know.
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  Unknown: That's it. That's the big crime. They they
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  don't have a clue. They think they know. They think they're educated.
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  They went to college. They listen to the news. They read the newspaper.
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  They talk to people about these things. They know it all cold, don't you understand?
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  Unknown: Yes and and but what a lot of people don't realize is everything they know is a lie. Of course.
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  Unknown: And that's why, you know, the lyrics to this song that open up my show,
• 27:26
  that song was carefully chosen because of what it says, okay?
• 27:31
  And and in those lyrics, they keeps continuing,
• 27:35
  where, tell me, where is sanity?
• 27:38
  Well, that's the reason that I spend two hours with you guys every day that I can. And
• 27:46
  Unknown: we appreciate you for that.
• 27:48
  You know, there's back to this people not only don't know what's happening to them, they don't even know that they don't that they don't know. It's because
• 27:56
  they are so
• 27:59
  they're trained
• 28:00
  on something that is total nonsense.
• 28:03
  And let me give you one
• 28:05
  of my nonsensical ideas. People don't know that the government's been changed. They think it's they think it's the real government. Yep. They don't realize it's running on the fourteenth amendment.
• 28:15
  Therefore, they go vote for a Marxist, communist, socialist hybrid and think they're doing their god given right and I'm like, okay, let me try to explain this to you.
• 28:27
  This this
• 28:29
  Reconstruction
• 28:29
  era that we weren't taught much about in the public fool system
• 28:35
  totally reconstructed
• 28:37
  The United States Of America with a simple word,
• 28:41
  The United States citizen and a simple definition on that.
• 28:46
  And it's hidden right here in these legal books. Yep.
• 28:50
  And you're you weren't trained to open the legal book and look in it and you weren't trained how to read these words. You were trained as a slave You were through the Prussian school system. You were conditioned.
• 29:02
  Believe
• 29:03
  right. To believe nonsense.
• 29:06
  And
• 29:08
  it's hard for somebody to comprehend that. Now I was speaking on this over
• 29:14
  to a group in Waco one day.
• 29:17
  It was about 15 people there. Not a big group. It was a group called Texas Freedom.
• 29:23
  And after
• 29:26
  explaining this, you know, I spoke for about thirty minutes. I didn't get too long winded because people don't have that good of a an attention span today.
• 29:36
  And at the end, this PhD walked up, I didn't know her I didn't know she was a PhD at the time. She had this look
• 29:43
  on her face that was just like,
• 29:46
  oh my god.
• 29:48
  We've been lied to
• 29:50
  and she bought the book that I was urging everyone to get.
• 29:55
  It wasn't a book near as as easy to understand as yours. It was very technical. It it went through all this crazy law. And so you're going to lose, you're going to lose the majority of people right there.
• 30:07
  Right. Right. Right. And it explained
• 30:10
  the history,
• 30:11
  you know, and what's happened and
• 30:15
  she found me on Facebook
• 30:18
  in about three days, and she did not
• 30:22
  shut up
• 30:23
  for forever.
• 30:25
  And she was like, oh my god. We've been so lied to.
• 30:29
  And I was like, she got it. Well, many people don't get it because the book is too technical. So I don't push the book anymore
• 30:37
  because there's a lot of mistakes in the book,
• 30:39
  but she got it.
• 30:41
  But now she has been trained so much. She's got this higher level of of training from the next level up in the public pool system
• 30:52
  that,
• 30:53
  it's just,
• 30:55
  you know, not gonna happen, and and that's sad that,
• 30:59
  people can think that way. Roger, I have this,
• 31:03
  drive inside me that it's gonna happen.
• 31:06
  It's kinda like the hula hoop or the slinky when it first came out. It became a fad. This is gonna happen one day, and when people see it, they're gonna go Alright. Bang. I gotta tell everybody about my new hula hoop or my new slinky. So
• 31:20
  John and Mary and Sue, they run down and get their slinkies. This is the way freedom is, and this is what the founders went through in the seventeen hundreds. Well, that's what I'd like to think we're doing is starting that ball rolling downhill,
• 31:33
  Unknown: and it's been rolling for a few years. We've touched a lot of people. I don't know how many people's directly affected,
• 31:41
  but that's the reason this platform's here.
• 31:44
  Get on here every day and basically do the same thing.
• 31:48
  My first priority is people like yourself understanding
• 31:51
  this
• 31:52
  and getting their arms around it where they too can become people that talk about it intelligently.
• 31:58
  Now let's go back to something you said at the start of that, and this is
• 32:03
  This is a way you separate yourself from the crowd,
• 32:06
  okay,
• 32:07
  is you gotta get specific,
• 32:10
  and we all fall into generalities,
• 32:13
  and I say all of us because I still do it too. I still use the word money.
• 32:17
  I try and correct myself and use the word currency
• 32:20
  when I can, but we all slip and use the word the government. The government this,
• 32:26
  the government that, right?
• 32:29
  Yep.
• 32:30
  Okay, well, it's not that's not right,
• 32:32
  because you see, we're the government, and we have a contract
• 32:36
  called the Constitution,
• 32:38
  and in that contract,
• 32:40
  we elect representatives that go up and supposedly
• 32:43
  represent our interests.
• 32:45
  In doing so, they pass laws,
• 32:48
  and to get that whole operation working,
• 32:51
  they hire
• 32:52
  agents,
• 32:53
  don't they?
• 32:54
  In the representative or the senator an agent of the people,
• 33:02
  aren't they?
• 33:04
  Yes. Well, then the people they hire to do the rest of that stuff, aren't they agents too? They're they're hired. They're paid a paycheck, right?
• 33:13
  Right. Well, they're the agents of government.
• 33:16
  They're not government.
• 33:18
  What has done us in is the agents of government.
• 33:24
  See the difference in that and the way it people perceive that? Because there's pretty big difference there.
• 33:32
  Unknown: Right.
• 33:33
  Unknown: The whole agency,
• 33:34
  whether it's a real estate agent or any, there's a whole body of law that deals with that legal relationship
• 33:40
  called the laws of agency.
• 33:46
  And you see, that's what they're doing, is they're enforcing that stuff by those regulations,
• 33:51
  and when you file this paperwork, it takes you out of their parameters.
• 33:56
  Now,
• 33:57
  if they come and mess with you,
• 33:59
  they're acting outside their delegated areas of responsibility and duty and now they become personally liable and lose
• 34:07
  their shield.
• 34:12
  You see the power of what we're talking about here? Because they're agents. Right. They're not the all powerful
• 34:18
  Oz government.
• 34:21
  Unknown: Well, the problem is people aren't holding these
• 34:25
  agents accountable to the law. That's right. Well,
• 34:28
  Unknown: no. Well, they They don't know the law. Well, they can't generally. No, like the IRS stuff. Man, for years. We go in and talk to these IRS agents on these different situations, and we start quoting all this stat all the regulations and stuff to them. Hell, those guys don't know that stuff. They know they're supposed to go out and squeeze
• 34:50
  whichever pig they can get the most out of.
• 34:56
  Unknown: Right.
• 34:56
  Unknown: Okay?
• 34:57
  But
• 34:58
  it's it's real important to get down to, in other words, let me see if I can approach this a different way for you.
• 35:05
  They'd set us up with generalities
• 35:07
  and then they come back and zap us with specificity.
• 35:12
  Okay?
• 35:14
  So, you gotta know and get people thinking on those
• 35:18
  little fine points because that's where they're snagging us.
• 35:22
  Just like Chris got up and said the lady got up yesterday in court proudly
• 35:28
  proclaimed herself as citizen of The United States.
• 35:32
  Unknown: Yeah. They don't know any better.
• 35:36
  Unknown: The masses don't know. No, they don't. That's the reason for this show and and I've had to come to accept Thomas and you'll learn and the rest of you guys will experience this too because I think it's pretty well the norm
• 35:47
  is
• 35:48
  you're going to get called a bunch of names, you're going to get looked at real funny, and maybe every now and then, you'll find somebody that says, damn, let me, what are you talking about?
• 35:59
  What what did you say right there? There's a difference between a citizen of The United States and a citizen of The United States Of America?
• 36:06
  There's a difference?
• 36:12
  Unknown: 100%
• 36:13
  difference.
• 36:18
  It's easy. And that's a that that was my first post this morning on Facebook. I I try to do something first thing every morning. It was thump brain Thursday.
• 36:27
  Words mean things.
• 36:31
  Unknown: We'll drag Russia. Nudge nudge.
• 36:34
  Unknown: A secret so well guarded for one hundred and sixty years since the war.
• 36:39
  When exposed,
• 36:41
  the masses brush it off as having no consequence. Yeah.
• 36:45
  The people were given a slave
• 36:47
  the people were given a slave moniker by you using vague and general terms since the war and the fourteenth amendment first sent.
• 36:55
  Hidden in plain sight, the majority would think it utterly preposterous that the solution is that simple. US citizen equals slave since the war.
• 37:05
  Thomas Maddox, Texan, not a US citizen legally or lawfully,
• 37:09
  and this is all it takes
• 37:11
  is understanding you were born with this US citizen legal fiction moniker in the first sentence of the fourteenth amendment.
• 37:19
  Unknown: And Legal fictions
• 37:21
  Unknown: are legal lies. What do we do about legal lies?
• 37:24
  We correct the lie. Right?
• 37:28
  Unknown: That's what you wrote this morning. Was that? Yeah. Pretty simple.
• 37:32
  You might wanna throw in their presumption
• 37:35
  and get people conditioned
• 37:37
  to the fact that what you're really doing is living under a presumption.
• 37:41
  When you boil this down and try and get it as simple as possible for the mass uptake
• 37:48
  of the people that get exposed to it,
• 37:51
  you're born under the presumption of law that you're this, and until you correct the presumption, it will roll on and you will consider to to be considered to be that.
• 38:02
  Unknown: I have I'll
• 38:04
  take that and I will work on it because
• 38:07
  at this time, I think the term presumption
• 38:10
  would be a little bit too larger term for some people to understand. So, I use more general
• 38:16
  better known. Well, say. To the average, everything person. You could take that. Yeah. Well, that's because You are presumed you are presumed to be this
• 38:26
  and you're not. That's right. Subverbs,
• 38:29
  Unknown: nigh, rebut the presumption. You gotta rebut the presumption
• 38:32
  and until you do and in just the right way because you can't just go around rebutting it, rebutting it, rebutting it, and it's rebutted. You gotta do it with the right way to the right person.
• 38:46
  Unknown: Right. And this is the point I was getting to earlier about Michael Badnard. You can look him up on YouTube. He's a really sharp guy.
• 38:53
  He sent me a message yesterday on Facebook, and I had been listening to this guy for years about, you know, his his travels around Texas and coming in contact with the police.
• 39:04
  Unknown: But anyway Well, I He see I know he needs to call past the hour and tell him we got a phase out here at the house. Oh, Chris? Okay.
• 39:12
  Unknown: Chris. You're you're I'm sorry. Sorry about that. You got a phase out at the house? Call the electrical department.
• 39:20
  Unknown: Sorry. Some of us Yes. Well, that's true. When you drop a phase,
• 39:24
  when it rains in Las Vegas, they have to come out and fix the electricity because it's the whole system. It's not just our house. Okay. Well, sorry. Anyway, he wants to compare your
• 39:36
  Unknown: affidavit
• 39:37
  with his to make sure he's getting out of this. He understands,
• 39:42
  Unknown: in other words, he understands what I'm saying. Well, listen. Way better than a lot of people do. Thomas. He sent me the message wanting to compare his notes with your affidavit. Thomas, why don't you you since you got the connection, why don't you ask him if he'd like to come on the show and he and I can discuss it here on the program for everybody.
• 39:59
  Unknown: Awesome. That that would be awesome.
• 40:02
  Unknown: Okay, why don't you see if you can schedule it for next Tuesday?
• 40:05
  If he's open this time next Tuesday.
• 40:09
  Or next Thursday. Either one of those two. If Tuesday's a problem, see if Thursday's alright.
• 40:16
  Unknown: Alright.
• 40:17
  We'll do that. Good.
• 40:19
  He's a super super sharp guy. I mean, he he knows the law backwards and forwards. Good deal. Of a free man.
• 40:27
  Unknown: Well, see, there's a lot of pockets of us out there and but and everybody's got a piece of the puzzle and I'm not trying to say, you know, I just think this is the nexus of all of it, okay? And if we could get people on this track, I don't care. I'm not looking for credit and all that stuff. I just want to accomplish the mission of getting this out to as many people as possible.
• 40:53
  Unknown: Yes. Here here's the crazy part. I've met so many sharp guys like you,
• 41:00
  Michael,
• 41:02
  Joseph,
• 41:03
  and others here lately. It's blowing my mind that this thing is really coming together
• 41:08
  and all of us sharp guys are gonna meet one place one day
• 41:12
  Unknown: and we're gonna have a crowd of five, ten, fifteen, twenty, zero people going, I want to be free and. Alright. And we're going to get we're going to do this thing. I see that. I see that down the future too. I don't see a big gathering of people in one spot but I see this message getting up on the next level. The Doctor. Dave Jandas and the
• 41:34
  Greg Hunters and the
• 41:37
  Eli's and the Silver and Gold report and all that stuff, and when it hits that
• 41:42
  it's gonna really get legs.
• 41:48
  Yes, type that. And I feel that coming together right now. Yeah, it is. Well, man, I'll tell you what, it's a good feeling because I've been nursing it for a lot of years
• 41:58
  and
• 41:59
  it's good to I feel real comfortable with it. I feel like we're making progress. I'm not
• 42:05
  too
• 42:07
  drawn back by the fact that it's not as big or as fast progress as I'd like to to make but just getting this information information in the public domain,
• 42:16
  Thomas,
• 42:17
  I've accomplished my goal.
• 42:19
  I accomplished it seven years ago. Now, it's just trying to spread it and get it more deeply ingrained
• 42:25
  into the public
• 42:26
  domain.
• 42:29
  Unknown: Right. And you have done it so
• 42:35
  good, so simple to understand
• 42:37
  that people are starting to say, I mean, I'm having guys that had been sitting on the sidelines forever coming to me. Thomas, I'm ready now. After reading my after reading Roger's stuff
• 42:48
  and his affidavit,
• 42:49
  boom. And and they listened to the conference call you and I were on the other night. That that had a big
• 42:56
  effect.
• 42:58
  Do you have a recording? Then the one I did the week after.
• 43:01
  Unknown: Was that recorded? They're fired up. Was that recorded by any chance?
• 43:06
  Yes, sir. It was? Why don't you shoot me an MP3 of it, and I'll put it up on cast box because I had a couple of people ask about it.
• 43:15
  I will send it to you in an email here shortly. Yeah. Okay. I'll give you a better way if it's too big for your email.
• 43:22
  We transfer.
• 43:24
  Com. Yeah. Okay. Whatever.
• 43:26
  So, but I'm real glad to have all you guys on board and a little new blood out there. It stimulates me and and inspires me and
• 43:35
  nice to meet your acquaintance and there's just something about all us people that kind of think alike
• 43:41
  and and are on the same frequency
• 43:44
  and we've never met before and all of a sudden,
• 43:47
  these reasons, the show, the information,
• 43:49
  etcetera and we meet and you got a new friend that you felt like you met years ago, you know, that kind of thing.
• 44:00
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 44:01
  Unknown: Chris?
• 44:03
  Unknown: Chris, did you I'm still here. Okay. Yes, sir. Did you get your face thing straightened out?
• 44:10
  No. Absolutely not. But I still got power on my little computer here. My phone still works so far. Well, kinda.
• 44:19
  Unknown: We're gonna have Well, kinda, yeah. I'll get to get you a new phone, man.
• 44:23
  You know, I one day, I had I
• 44:27
  had Greg
• 44:29
  start recording. I said, when every time that Chris comes on, record him because I wanna make a recording and send it to him so he knows how he sounds.
• 44:38
  Okay?
• 44:38
  And Greg wrote me back and said, hell, he sounds like he's in the sewer.
• 44:43
  I said, I know.
• 44:46
  Unknown: Well, curiously,
• 44:48
  I I did a call yester day before yesterday with Ramola Dee. She's a
• 44:53
  kind of intriguing
• 44:55
  I guess she's across the pond. Maybe she's here in America, but she certainly got a British sounding accent,
• 45:00
  New Zealand or down under somewhere.
• 45:03
  And a pretty good interviewer.
• 45:05
  In fact, she goes on a couple of advocacy. In fact, I think nomoreabuse.com
• 45:11
  or something like that is her webs email.
• 45:15
  And it's
• 45:17
  up on the I think I sent you a link for it. It's up on YouTube
• 45:21
  under Ramola Dee and Chris near Las Vegas.
• 45:25
  And
• 45:26
  it came out really, really well. And most of the other calls that I do come out really well. It's just the ones between you and I that seem to have the massive amount of communications issues problems. And this is a pretty new Moto z four phone I model. They're hyping that you can get a free Moto z five on the five g, and I ain't buying the five g lies myself. I don't want anything to do with five g, and I'm fearful that it's a very dangerous technology of EMP, electromagnetic
• 45:56
  power force, and it may not be the best force because we've all ingested so many nanometallics
• 46:01
  in our breathing from the chemtrail springs of nanometallics
• 46:05
  of trimethyl, aluminum, caesium, strontium,
• 46:08
  etcetera, etcetera.
• 46:10
  And so it's a very, very dangerous time, but that was a very curious day at the court system yesterday if you have a halfway decent signal on me. Yes. And what I was gonna say is it's not that it's terrible all the time. It's only terrible initially
• 46:24
  Unknown: when it gets real garbled. Everything
• 46:26
  you just said was perfectly audible and we all understood everything you said and there was only one little breakup in it. So, I'm not sure what the problem is. That's why I'm trying to find a solution
• 46:37
  and if you'll get that little, you've got to have some special attachment for Motorola to see if you can get earbuds in or whatever, try it, let's try that, it might solve the problem.
• 46:48
  But
• 46:49
  when it first comes on, it's real garbled
• 46:52
  and real
• 46:54
  unintelligible
• 46:55
  and what that does is it takes the conversational
• 46:57
  aspect out of what we do.
• 46:59
  So, because the you can't. Right. Right
• 47:03
  there. I'm curious.
• 47:07
  Unknown: I did go out and buy a new set of headphones, but I'm having extreme difficulties in finding a little adapter door that came from Android that lets you plug in this
• 47:16
  micro c bottom hole on the Android, interface it with an mini RCA
• 47:20
  plug so you can plug in the headphones. I had a pair of new ones.
• 47:25
  You know, it's just really frustrating trying to get this stuff. Now I gotta go spend big bucks to get another,
• 47:31
  Android adapter for my phone to be able to use it with new headphones. I bought two different pairs, and I'm still not able to plug into The
• 47:39
  Unknown: the the moral of that story is don't buy a Motorola.
• 47:43
  Get one that don't have to make you jump through these hoops and get all these extra attachments to do what you need to do.
• 47:52
  Unknown: That's the most significant
• 47:54
  downside
• 47:55
  to it is the way that you have to connect the audio plug. They could have put a micro RC in there and tied it in, and but they didn't do that. They saved money.
• 48:03
  And, you know, rather than that, it's a really kind of an interesting modular concept phone that's got this magnetic thing. You can slap these different appendages. Like, I have a Bose or some sort of a Hotshot speaker on the back because I'm a little bit hearing impaired,
• 48:18
  and it plays it much louder on than the phone does so I can hear better. So that's a good thing. And then it's also got this projector that'll project it like a 155
• 48:27
  square inch,
• 48:28
  LED high resolution picture off the videos in my phone, which might come in handy in a courtroom scenario to show the grand jury or the jury.
• 48:37
  And so it's got some assets that are kinda interesting, and none of those are really cheap, although they do offer some specials sometimes that makes it affordable.
• 48:47
  And that's how I got mine being a value shopper extraordinaire.
• 48:51
  But it was really curious yesterday
• 48:54
  whenever I had met that
• 48:57
  deep resonant
• 48:59
  poorly voiced individual. It was very tall in a silver suit with silver hair and about six foot two or three tall, a
• 49:07
  kind of a noticeable presence that came into the city attorney's office when I was sitting there turning in some documents I was required to turn in.
• 49:16
  And we had a little colloquy between us. And so then I went down to the district court's eighth circuit administrator that's in control of all the judges supposedly
• 49:26
  for the eighth circuit district court in Nevada
• 49:29
  and the Southern division
• 49:31
  here. Of course, they're all in the same justice building, the city, the county, municipality,
• 49:35
  the district court, the especially
• 49:37
  competency court. They're all in the same building, so the pretext
• 49:41
  of separated courts
• 49:43
  goes away because when they lock the doors, they have their meetings up on the 12th Floor and they're,
• 49:47
  sumptuous and well appointed elite meeting area surroundings,
• 49:51
  and they conspire against the rest of us that come in there. Of course, they have
• 49:55
  armored trucks that come and pick up the money every day of all the
• 49:59
  hundreds of thousands, if not millions a day they take in from these extortionate re venue where they change it from your pocket to
• 50:05
  their pocket and call it revenue
• 50:08
  generation.
• 50:09
  And so it's really quite interesting. So I've made my way to the district court administrator's
• 50:14
  office
• 50:15
  on the 2nd Floor,
• 50:17
  and, they had a new girl there at the desk named Jasmine Middle Easterner. She was, you know, pretty slight built and not unattractive looking, kinda cutesy,
• 50:26
  young girl, but,
• 50:28
  not very experienced at what she was doing. And I was trying to explain to her, I was trying to find a judicial complaint that I'd put in couple of months ago that,
• 50:37
  had to do with a
• 50:39
  judge they tried to
• 50:42
  especially target for me and,
• 50:46
  cherry picking the judiciary
• 50:48
  to specifically
• 50:49
  apply to
• 50:52
  knowledgeable common lawyers and patriots and conservatives.
• 50:56
  And
• 50:58
  so it's a a real, real curiosity
• 51:01
  that they would manipulate the thing. In fact, the director administrator of the clerk's office came out, stood behind her while she did that nonsense, that devious,
• 51:10
  stacking of the court docket, and especially directing me to this one,
• 51:14
  terrorist who,
• 51:16
  in my appeal for a traffic case, the one where Kenneth Meade testified he'd been stalking me for since 08/12/2012
• 51:23
  and some other things that were really useful.
• 51:28
  He met in Camaro ex parte behind in the secret chambers in the back with the prosecutor
• 51:34
  and ruled against me and never gave me any due process of law or substantial justice opportunity to defend myself in the courtroom whatsoever.
• 51:42
  And that's what you That's
• 51:44
  Unknown: the in that's the incident you're contesting now. Right?
• 51:49
  Unknown: Well,
• 51:49
  that's not the one I'm contesting now, but that's one of them I'm contesting now,
• 51:54
  precisely.
• 51:55
  Unknown: You know. And so that was an appeal but The problem. But yes, I was I was As we get into this, you're Well The history that at this point is so convoluted
• 52:05
  and there's several of these incidents
• 52:07
  and and unless
• 52:09
  somebody is almost in your shoes, it's hard to keep them all straight and keep the story straight. So that's why I was asking the question, but go ahead.
• 52:17
  Unknown: You're right.
• 52:18
  It is the situation I'm dealing with now. They put the same judge that
• 52:22
  hoodwinked
• 52:23
  and and thought he was pulling one, pulling the wool over my eyes before. It's hard to untie a Gordian knot simply because it's not meant to be untied. You're exactly right.
• 52:33
  But I'm pretty astute, and I pay close attention. And,
• 52:37
  you know, I was under the most duress one could figure that you might not be alive the following day after going to court.
• 52:43
  And I was trying to move to that court, and I paid $270
• 52:47
  to do so. And that's not a small amount, and it was fortuitous. I had that much money in my pocket there in our courtroom, but I did.
• 52:54
  And that was to
• 52:56
  because I couldn't get the one to the supreme court exigently,
• 52:59
  I
• 53:00
  dropped back as a desperation
• 53:03
  move to move it to the district court to at least to buy some time.
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  And so I paid $270.
• 53:09
  And, of course, the administrator of the court, Teresa,
• 53:12
  woman of color, came out and stood behind the one that was helping me. A little nervous about helping me, I I detected,
• 53:19
  And I was a little nervous too. So being able to notice that while I was a little, agitated and under severe distress and duress,
• 53:27
  I thought was pretty astute of me under the circumstances of combat.
• 53:31
  So
• 53:32
  so after I did that, I took that stamp sealed signed copy,
• 53:38
  and I went over to the administrator's office to get it. And,
• 53:41
  this little Jasmine girl that was at the administrative office,
• 53:46
  she didn't know what I was talking about, and so she called back there to ask somebody to come up front to give her some help or give me some help. And so this big tall, nice looking younger guy with a gun on his hip and a badge and handcuffs and you know, a shirt and a tie. I thought was probably the administrative court's investigator
• 54:04
  or chief security guard or something that other nice looking young guy comes out. And I said, well, I'm trying to I put a judicial complaint
• 54:11
  on a judge, Scotty, back
• 54:14
  couple months ago. And he said, what was it? January? I said, well, it could've been January, maybe a little before. I'm not I don't remember exactly the date with all the stuff going on. But so, he went back there. He was back there for a while, and, of course, the impending
• 54:27
  time was closing up on me coming down to that other court that was coming up at 09:30.
• 54:33
  Well, lo and behold, the same tall,
• 54:36
  silvery haired dashing and,
• 54:39
  well spoken,
• 54:41
  good voiced,
• 54:42
  gentleman
• 54:43
  with the county badge around his neck, he walks into the same office where I'm at there. What a coincidence. Almost like he was following me.
• 54:52
  And, so we'd had colloquy before speaking back and forth to one of each other in a congenial manner.
• 55:00
  He says, oh, fancy seeing you here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he and he said
• 55:05
  he said, what do you do? People, I'm a private advocate and activist for all this government, and this is a target rich environment.
• 55:12
  He says, oh.
• 55:17
  Unknown: Good one, Chris.
• 55:20
  Unknown: Well, and he and his response was classic too. It was obviously very well experienced.
• 55:26
  He says, oh, you're a good actor in a bad movie. Yeah. I said, yeah. You wouldn't want the role I'm in.
• 55:34
  Unknown: What dialogue,
• 55:35
  man.
• 55:37
  Unknown: Oh, what the hell? Like I say, if I hadn't been there and hit in the middle of it, I wouldn't have believed it myself with this whole thing going down. It's like they they send probes out to follow me around to see what I'm doing. And so
• 55:51
  I went back after I got through with this court thing to get my certified documents because we're gonna recuse this judge
• 55:59
  because how can a judge I put a judicial complaint on be fair, unbiased, and neutral? And it's preposterous for them to not have known that and to put that judge on me. I know they did it exactly
• 56:11
  specifically
• 56:11
  with laser surgical specificity
• 56:14
  to try to throw me under the bus because this guy's a hit judge that they send to to dispatch,
• 56:19
  patriots, freedom
• 56:20
  riders, and guys that actually know law.
• 56:24
  Unknown: Well, did you find the complaint? Did they find the complaint?
• 56:28
  Unknown: Yes. They did, and I'd put it in in December,
• 56:31
  and it kinda been a week before Christmas or so was when I put it in. It was a handwritten complaint.
• 56:36
  And in fact, the guy that was the big, tall, young,
• 56:40
  investigative,
• 56:42
  with the badge and the gun
• 56:44
  turns out I asked the girl Jasmine because he wasn't there, and they had the package of information when I went back after I'd been in the court for that little soiree.
• 56:52
  And Jasmine
• 56:55
  says, sure. Sure. Right here. And I said, say that. Who was that guy that was helping me there? And so she tells me his name was Brett. And I said, but what was the last name? And she says, Segafsky.
• 57:05
  And she spells it for me. And I said, I'm pretty sure I know his mom,
• 57:10
  Barbara Sagaski, who is a state representative.
• 57:13
  And I think I know his dad too who was an IBW local three five seven electrician.
• 57:17
  Well, he know I know his mom and dad.
• 57:22
  So,
• 57:23
  you know, I pay attention. I have a pretty good memory for an old guy, and that was what happened with that deal. So I'm kinda still reeling from the court thing, and I'm gonna be doing some things today or tomorrow about that. Well, hold on. But Hold on, Chris. Because you've left us hanging. You've left us in the dark.
• 57:42
  Unknown: Who was the guy with the good voice,
• 57:44
  mister Suave?
• 57:45
  Would you find out who he was? Well, I
• 57:48
  Unknown: I don't know, but I strongly suspect he's a high level member
• 57:53
  of the law and intelligence
• 57:56
  team if I had to get from Steve Wolfson, the prosecutor, chief prosecutor's office. He's probably like a a chief counsel or something of that. He's from Chicago,
• 58:05
  and he was real smooth. You know? I mean, this guy was ultra smooth and, you know, quite a presence of a man, you know, and noteworthy, and I pay attention to those things. But I'm used to in the military when I was back in
• 58:20
  Fort Sill, Oklahoma, and I was in the post educational television division and trade doc information
• 58:27
  dissemination,
• 58:28
  training doctrine command.
• 58:29
  And we used to get generals and colonels and all these different high level officers to come over to the post information TV division where I was at. And we produce audios and videos and,
• 58:41
  different
• 58:42
  special projects of how things going in the new army and,
• 58:46
  the twenty first century and so on and so forth. And it was it was kind of a an auspicious location to be in the middle of when I was there.
• 58:55
  And so I was used to dealing with all these big presence people and stuff who were pretty you know, they were semi important in their sphere of operations,
• 59:05
  but, you know, we were having to interact and professionally and courteously, and they respectable me. I was respectful of them as we should be and commonly should be to most people. And,
• 59:15
  so I'm not unaccustomed
• 59:17
  to dealing with officials and dignitaries,
• 59:19
  speaking for county commissions, and speaking to representatives,
• 59:22
  and things like that into public forms. I've spoken
• 59:26
  in the state house here on
• 59:29
  circumstances
• 59:30
  of property and land rights and stuff on some of the money things and other things around it with some other
• 59:37
  rather prestigious people and government and extracurricular
• 59:40
  activities of activism
• 59:42
  around the country. And, you know, I'm not unaccustomed to speaking in those venues, so I do so with some ease and,
• 59:50
  relative effectiveness.
• 59:52
  Unknown: Well,
• 59:53
  I'm sure most of our listeners wouldn't wanna get schooled the way that you have.
• 1:00:00
  Unknown: And so, hopefully Yeah, combat tool is a little difficult.
• 1:00:06
  Gorilla combat tool, as a matter of fact.
• 1:00:09
  Unknown: If you if I can ever help anybody avoid all of that I will feel that it I've done a good job,
• 1:00:16
  okay? I mean, honestly, because I went through it personally
• 1:00:20
  and it was my personal experience dealing with IRS now
• 1:00:23
  and and after that experience, I said, hell, there's gotta be a better way to do this. So, just absolutely got to be an easier, better way and because of that experience in my life, we're here today.
• 1:00:39
  Unknown: Well, absolutely. And, you know, this is this is the thing that makes it so
• 1:00:44
  it's appalling to me what's happened to our country. It is shocking to the public's state of conscience, the ones that are awake and know
• 1:00:51
  that our country's been hijacked. We've been taken and occupied by,
• 1:00:56
  Bolshevik, communist, Zionist, terrorists that want and Jesuits that wanna take over this country and doing a pretty fine job of it. I'm sorry. Done. They have done
• 1:01:06
  Unknown: a fine job of it. It ain't doing.
• 1:01:08
  Unknown: It they've done it. Satan's not an yeah. Satan's not an amateur.
• 1:01:14
  They
• 1:01:15
  darn sure have, regrettably.
• 1:01:17
  But, you know, there are things that we some of us are doing out here and trying to do so peacefully, you know, when you know, I think as Kennedy said, when they make peaceful descent impossible, they violent revolution inevitable.
• 1:01:30
  Unknown: Yep. And we pretty much that point regrettably. That's not where they want us to be. Yep. That's exactly right. They want chaos and they stand back and and reap reap the benefits of it and
• 1:01:41
  you're our dictate,
• 1:01:43
  our mandate,
• 1:01:44
  Chris, audience,
• 1:01:46
  is right there in Revelation 18
• 1:01:49
  and it says, come out of her and it's hard to come out of her
• 1:01:53
  in the instance of our friend, Chris,
• 1:01:55
  when he's in the middle of her as deep as he is but for the average person out there, if you if this touches your life, learn about it, study it, think about it, ask questions. If you know, if you got big quandaries,
• 1:02:09
  call into the show here. I'll give I we don't give the number out enough. We should give it out more. It's on the website,
• 1:02:14
  People's Patriot Network. Com. If it's still up, I'm assuming it is.
• 1:02:20
  But
• 1:02:21
  that's what
• 1:02:22
  that's what this that's
• 1:02:24
  what this show's about, okay? It is to reach out there especially Thomas, you and your bunch, all all those new people that are just starting to get their arms around this and go,
• 1:02:35
  damn.
• 1:02:36
  You mean there's two
• 1:02:39
  classes of citizens in this country?
• 1:02:42
  Yeah, there are.
• 1:02:44
  Unknown: Well, it tells you right there in Downs verse Bidwell
• 1:02:47
  mid
• 1:02:48
  Downs versus Bidwell very clearly that we have it at the bar and at law that there are two different classes of citizenship here in America and stated clearly on the DSM 11 down on the warning block on page three. I sent you something last night that was very, very interesting,
• 1:03:04
  and somebody had gone in and modified the DSM 11
• 1:03:07
  and made it a noncitizen US national's passport application form. I thought it was rather creative. Oh, that's interesting. Well, they probably wouldn't accept it.
• 1:03:18
  Well, I I'm not sure they will or they won't, but if they accept it, you know, that's consent. Well, I As a presumption of consent, if you accept it. Well, the reason I say that they probably couldn't or wouldn't accept it is because
• 1:03:31
  Unknown: the passport application
• 1:03:34
  fits under a a
• 1:03:36
  unique group
• 1:03:38
  of of paperwork called a public information gathering request.
• 1:03:43
  You ever been exposed to the office
• 1:03:46
  Unknown: of management. That's correct. That's Any
• 1:03:49
  Unknown: any agency in the more than 323
• 1:03:52
  agencies
• 1:03:53
  that puts out anything that's class classified as a public information
• 1:03:57
  gathering request
• 1:03:59
  has to get that piece of paper and those questions pre approved
• 1:04:04
  through the Office of Management and Budget
• 1:04:07
  because of a piece of legislation years ago called the Paperwork Reduction Act
• 1:04:13
  and so, it had even a ten forty form is considered to be a public information gathering request, okay?
• 1:04:21
  And so
• 1:04:22
  they have real
• 1:04:24
  specific things and guidelines to get that thing classified and get an OMB number off of it, and I don't think they could accept
• 1:04:34
  one that's generated from the public and sent in. That's why I said that.
• 1:04:39
  Unknown: Well and there are some caveats that people should be aware before they jump on putting that one in there.
• 1:04:46
  You can modify their form. However, there's some pretty strong caveats and mourners that you don't alter the document or you reduce the depth and you
• 1:04:54
  might be prosecuted for changing the form. You remember can offer additional proofs of citizenship evidence
• 1:05:02
  tacitly inferred and implied by doctrine of infra,
• 1:05:05
  the noncitizen
• 1:05:06
  national status
• 1:05:08
  evidences of noncitizenship
• 1:05:11
  very clearly as provided for in the language of the document. Let's call it non birthright
• 1:05:17
  Unknown: citizenship.
• 1:05:19
  That's even more specific. Non
• 1:05:22
  birthright
• 1:05:24
  citizenship because that's the nomenclature
• 1:05:26
  they've adopted internally
• 1:05:28
  to identify that
• 1:05:29
  birthright citizenship.
• 1:05:33
  As I said, everything's dialectics.
• 1:05:35
  Where's where's the answer? Every, here's the lesson. Everything's dialectic.
• 1:05:40
  It's a birthright citizenship.
• 1:05:42
  Where is our answer? The nonbirthright
• 1:05:45
  citizenship.
• 1:05:46
  Where was the answer? The dialectic.
• 1:05:49
  It's always the answer. Yeah.
• 1:05:53
  Unknown: I was gonna say the specific language they use on their form is noncitizen US national, but I like to presqualify
• 1:06:00
  that with the state that you were birthed in,
• 1:06:03
  state
• 1:06:04
  blank state American noncitizen
• 1:06:06
  US nationals explicitly
• 1:06:08
  to delineate
• 1:06:10
  Well. Finitely
• 1:06:11
  Unknown: exactly what you are. Let me bring up something real interesting. You don't have to. You you shouldn't even be telling them what you are. You ought to be telling them what you're not.
• 1:06:21
  Because it's pretty easy to prove not a black slave that's her
• 1:06:26
  a lineage back to the Civil War, isn't it, Chris?
• 1:06:30
  Well, I mean, it should be self evident. Okay. Well, now, well then, if it's self evident and you put it in the paper, you send that to them and say, I'm not this.
• 1:06:39
  Because when you make a statement, I'm this, it's specific. I gotta do this. When you make that statement, it gives somebody an opportunity to challenge you.
• 1:06:50
  Doesn't matter if the challenge is valid or anything else. It may, gives it them an opportunity to challenge it because it's a positive statement.
• 1:06:58
  Go in and make a negative statement.
• 1:07:00
  I'm not this and let them figure out what the hell you are, alright? Now, this is pretty, it's one of these little knit things but I think that it's and I I I'll explain to you why I say this.
• 1:07:13
  But they say specifically
• 1:07:14
  in that oath, the non citizen
• 1:07:17
  national.
• 1:07:19
  And it's the only place I've ever seen them
• 1:07:23
  phrase it that way. Otherwise, it's just US national.
• 1:07:28
  Only in that one spot
• 1:07:30
  does it say non citizen national,
• 1:07:34
  and I think the reason they did it is to further
• 1:07:38
  the
• 1:07:40
  attempted
• 1:07:41
  fool you with the whole application.
• 1:07:48
  I guarantee you, Moe, nine out of 10 people that send one of those in,
• 1:07:55
  never read the oath they're signing.
• 1:07:58
  They just sign here. Here's the boom. Boom. Boom. Now,
• 1:08:01
  for the one out of 10 that does
• 1:08:04
  and he's going to read it and says, I certify under penalty perjury. I'm a citizen of The United States parenthesis
• 1:08:09
  or a non citizen national.
• 1:08:12
  That's put in there for that guy.
• 1:08:15
  That one out of 10 that's going to read that oath and go, well, I don't know what a national is but it's not a citizen and I know I'm a citizen because they've conditioned me that way. So, I guess I'm not one of him.
• 1:08:30
  That's the reason they put it in there. In that, that's how important this passport
• 1:08:35
  is to show in people what they've done.
• 1:08:41
  Unknown: I don't dispute what you're saying, Roger. I I think it used to be before they came up with the new phraseology
• 1:08:47
  of the nonsense in US national. You're speaking of it's on the form presently.
• 1:08:51
  There used to be a nonresident alien. That means foreign to corp US Inc. Or from another country. Only in
• 1:08:58
  Unknown: 26 CFR 1.1 dash one a. That's the only place they use it there in that usage.
• 1:09:05
  But here they had to say non citizen.
• 1:09:09
  Here's the reason all this is going on, is because they've got to tell you in that form what's going on really, and they've got to let you know that you've got a choice,
• 1:09:20
  and they've gotta set the whole thing up where they don't ask you what you are because
• 1:09:26
  it's up to you as to what you are but what do they ask you? They ask you what your parents were.
• 1:09:36
  They don't ask you what you are. There's
• 1:09:38
  the choice. I'm either this or I'm either that right in the oath, but further up on that page,
• 1:09:45
  on that very page of the application,
• 1:09:47
  they ask, were your citizen were your parents citizens of The United States? Boom. That sets up and further enhances the presumption.
• 1:09:57
  Unknown: To your point about that, in the conversation I had with the passport agent a couple weeks ago, whenever I sent my passport form in, I had a conversation addressing that very point because I was equivocating
• 1:10:09
  because it was not clear. It's a very complicated question
• 1:10:13
  with a whole lot of implications
• 1:10:16
  for those who are aware of the implications
• 1:10:18
  of what the status your parents are.
• 1:10:20
  And I could delineate it pretty well, except it would have taken quite a few breaths and sentences, and he'd probably had his head spinning when I got through. And then he said to me, it doesn't make any difference. You don't have to check that box. I said, oh, well, okay. If that's what you say, I am okay with that. And he's right. But that's the presumption.
• 1:10:38
  Unknown: He's right. He was right because the presumption would have applied whether you checked it or not, but it's just more icing on the cake for him. Do you see?
• 1:10:47
  Unknown: Yes.
• 1:10:48
  Well, I say it was a I took particular note of his the implications of his question, his statement, and his position on it, and I put it in my memory bank for reference for later in case that should come up because then I've got a reliance defense.
• 1:11:02
  Unknown: Well, the point being is that it none of that makes any difference. What makes the difference is the the documentation
• 1:11:10
  you attached with it to give to the secretary.
• 1:11:12
  I was gonna Thomas probably didn't know about this, okay? I think Thomas is still with us. I think he's just doing his business there but if you remember back at ex wife number three,
• 1:11:24
  we had that pretty good black
• 1:11:26
  that
• 1:11:26
  that pretty good black group going there for a while.
• 1:11:30
  The guys from from Maryland up in there and there was one guy named Eric. Eric, he used to call in a lot. I asked him if he wanted to be a host on the network and then, you just can't get people to make any kind of a commitment these days too much it seems but regardless,
• 1:11:46
  Eric was pretty sharp. Work.
• 1:11:49
  Yeah,
• 1:11:50
  it's too much like work. You're right. Well, see, that's just it. It's not work. It's not work for me, you know? I mean, it's pleasure for me. Me neither. I enjoyed it.
• 1:11:59
  Regardless,
• 1:12:00
  Eric was a sharp guy and he had been in the mortgage business and
• 1:12:06
  he said, when he got, he was in there one day in a closing attorney's office and he said, the clerk was stamping all the day's business, you know, all the checks and everything and everyone of those deals was stamped to the Federal Reserve
• 1:12:19
  and he said, that's when I really woke up that day in that office.
• 1:12:24
  Regardless,
• 1:12:25
  he heard about this
• 1:12:27
  and he heard about it. Second,
• 1:12:29
  I I was through some of his buddies up there and he living in Maryland
• 1:12:35
  could drive into DC and there's an officer at the state department where you can do just basically what you've done out in Vegas, Chris. You walk into the desk and hand them the stuff and get everything done right there at the state department. So, he takes the train in and he goes in there and he had taken on his passport application
• 1:12:55
  on that oath we're talking about
• 1:12:58
  fairly extensively here today.
• 1:13:01
  I'm sorry, my stomach's wanting to hiccup on me and
• 1:13:04
  he had circled
• 1:13:06
  non citizen national.
• 1:13:09
  Here's the affidavit. Oh, yes. Here's the application.
• 1:13:12
  I'm going to circle. This is what I am. Boom. I'm circling it and the guy at the desk wouldn't take it and he just said, I can't take this and then he didn't ask any questions or inquire.
• 1:13:22
  He just took the rejection and left. Well, the next day, he calls into the radio show. He writes me a message, says they got rejected. I said, call into the show tomorrow and so he calls into the show and I said, you deface the form.
• 1:13:36
  That's why they wouldn't take it. You can't circle that. You know, that's been considered to be deep. You don't want to give them any excuse to turn you away.
• 1:13:45
  What do you want to do that for? That's right. Okay? So, here's.
• 1:13:49
  Well, me let me finish. I'll I'll let you comment. So. Okay. So, the next day, he goes back and he takes the train in and he goes to the same desk and it's a different woman and he tells her the story
• 1:14:02
  And she says, well, honey, you just go ahead and circle it. Give it to me.
• 1:14:10
  Unknown: Well, can I offer a,
• 1:14:12
  critically adduced alternative
• 1:14:14
  suggestion that may have some legs
• 1:14:17
  not conflict with their rules and still accomplish what you want? That is I make a copy of that particular page three that you're talking about.
• 1:14:26
  And that way, it's a copy. It's not the form. It's merely a representation of simulation. It's an attachment. Version of form. It's an attachment. Then you can highlight it, circle it, anything else you wanna do on it and apply that with your form as a clarifying
• 1:14:39
  assistive
• 1:14:40
  Unknown: aid for them to be able to discern which one you're talking about. Yes. And and, of course, then it's considered to be an attachment because that's the same thing you do with the affidavit.
• 1:14:49
  You know, this is another way. Other clarifying evidence. Alright. Thomas, this is another way to to for that I knew that I'd really touched them real deep here, okay? Is they made two changes here a couple years back in the revised passport application
• 1:15:04
  and one of em was the one we're talking about right now. They added at the bottom of the oath, they've now got a bullet point that says, I have read and understand
• 1:15:14
  the warning box on page whatever,
• 1:15:17
  okay? Now, you see the reason they did that was to cover their because
• 1:15:22
  it's that warning box that you're get out of jail free card. That's your that's your statement on the farmers. Hey, you can volunteer out of servitude.
• 1:15:33
  Now, they don't quite say it like that but that's what it is and that's why they had to take that box
• 1:15:40
  that I can get out of servitude
• 1:15:43
  and put it now as a bullet point at the bottom of the oath.
• 1:15:47
  Okay, point A. Point B,
• 1:15:49
  in the old
• 1:15:51
  form, they used to have a section called the paperwork reduction act.
• 1:15:57
  And in that section, they're saying that they had to follow this stuff we talked about earlier with the Office of Management, Budget, because of paperwork reduction act and and it talks about, it says,
• 1:16:09
  within our form of government, often this is difficult to do, get all these forms and stuff that comply
• 1:16:16
  because our citizenship
• 1:16:18
  laws
• 1:16:19
  are very complex
• 1:16:22
  And I started making fun of them on that. And and I wrote it in the book and damned if they in the revised edition of the passport, that's out of there.
• 1:16:34
  Unknown: Well, they do pay attention, don't they? Well I I have a document here in front of me that's referred to in that warning block in particular.
• 1:16:41
  Unknown: You launch off interest. Before you launch off on that, let me say it. What it does is it points to the validity of what we're what we've got here. When they're changing government forms and reacting to the information getting into the public domain,
• 1:16:56
  that shows you the importance of what we're doing.
• 1:16:59
  Just that.
• 1:17:02
  Unknown: Yes. They're sensitive, and it hurts their feelings when we expose their deviosity and demonic.
• 1:17:08
  So
• 1:17:09
  I got this little pamphlet I pulled off the Internet some time ago from The United offices of the United States attorney, the USAM manual,
• 1:17:17
  and, it has to do with section nine zero two of the false statements of County Ability Act of 1996,
• 1:17:24
  the FSAA
• 1:17:25
  public law number one zero four dash two ninety two, HR thirty one sixty six of 10/11/1966.
• 1:17:32
  Says they made several changes,
• 1:17:34
  and they this is for the 18 USC sections one zero one lying to a federal agent,
• 1:17:42
  comes from.
• 1:17:43
  And this is more than the ones they cite there in that warning bucket. You'll be circumscript if you and put false statements on your passport form, so you have to be critically accurate. Right. And put other delineation forms and not alter the form. And that's really critical, but this is several little pages here that's very I found and I've been looking for for a while. I just came across it day before yesterday. I knew I had it somewhere.
• 1:18:06
  But this comes from
• 1:18:08
  www.justice.gov/usam.
• 1:18:12
  That's The United States Attorney General's Manual,
• 1:18:15
  criminal rec resource manual 09/2002 to 1996.
• 1:18:19
  And so
• 1:18:20
  the the government's resources, and it's really, really important. Remember, I I don't remember if I mentioned on your show because I don't remember the number. I've gotta go back and find it. But I discovered a I think it was a title 18. It might have been another title,
• 1:18:35
  from the attorney general of The US,
• 1:18:37
  who's we don't know who it is right now. They're talking about Marr
• 1:18:41
  Matthew Barr,
• 1:18:43
  William Barr. That's not his name. His real name is Guillermo something or another. He's a a Spaniard,
• 1:18:49
  probably a lot of,
• 1:18:51
  Jesuit.
• 1:18:52
  But,
• 1:18:53
  he's an impostor and, an agent and a Jesuit from the Jesuit schools. This Barr guy considered him for the AG.
• 1:19:01
  But the AG is required to issue once you've notified the secretary of state and get your evidence of noncitizenship
• 1:19:09
  or citizenship status as it may be of your special diplomatic status, ambassadorial
• 1:19:14
  or consular,
• 1:19:16
  that the
• 1:19:19
  US attorney general is required to issue a certificate of noncitizen
• 1:19:24
  state national
• 1:19:26
  political classification.
• 1:19:28
  And that could be very helpful, I think.
• 1:19:31
  Unknown: Well, if you go to the state department, there's a whole page on that thing. I saw it years ago when I first got into this. Somebody sent me a link to it. And you'll notice that what it at the the
• 1:19:42
  what's written on the state department under this,
• 1:19:45
  if that declaration or that that page is still there,
• 1:19:49
  it says at the bottom, well, we used to do this but it became so expensive
• 1:19:53
  with the paper and ink and stuff is so expensive, Chris, that they just couldn't do it anymore.
• 1:20:00
  Unknown: Yeah. I like building a wall. Yeah. They can give
• 1:20:04
  bazillion dollars to Israel or to the
• 1:20:07
  illegals to support them and to house all their children and stuff, but we can't afford to spend a couple of billion on a wall when they're spilling in trillions on this other stuff. It's preposterous
• 1:20:17
  Unknown: and absurd nonsense. I'd love to see some of you get out there and and hold their feet to the fire on this certificate and have some dialogue with them. Where is it? Where's mine? I want mine.
• 1:20:28
  And
• 1:20:29
  Well. My, you know, freedom collection over here. I'm going to frame it and put it up on the wall in my office. Can I get it please with some of that really expensive paper? Yeah, I'm putting on the website. I know. I know. It's gotta be real pretty because it's got to be because it's so expensive.
• 1:20:46
  Unknown: We're sure you wanna get it apostolate
• 1:20:48
  and officiated and all those, documentary, testamentary evidence of official
• 1:20:53
  to it on it. Are
• 1:20:55
  Unknown: you mean to telling me that you guys have to bring out the gold leaf paper to to to type up my certificate of nationality?
• 1:21:06
  Unknown: They emboss it with their official stamp. Absolutely. As the secretary of state. Well,
• 1:21:12
  Unknown: I'll I'll take my little passport and be happy about it and they can go on and they're, you know, continue to to go down in in the depths of Foggy Bottom and all of their damn that goes on out of that office of government right there. The slave office. That's the slave. That's the slave office, boss.
• 1:21:31
  That there's the slave office, Old Foggy Bottom up there in DC.
• 1:21:37
  Unknown: I've been calling the travel.gov
• 1:21:40
  phone number and checking on the website occasionally on the status of my progression of my son's US national passport
• 1:21:49
  progressing through the system.
• 1:21:51
  And,
• 1:21:52
  everybody's been very polite, courteous, accommodating, and professional,
• 1:21:56
  and I've complimented the public servant,
• 1:21:58
  attitudes of helping the people and being kind and considerate while they're doing it. At least they act that way. They're probably,
• 1:22:05
  rolling on the floor, laughing, kicking their hands up in there, doing a Manford,
• 1:22:09
  whenever I get off the phone. But, if I can provide them some entertainment, I'm happy to do so.
• 1:22:16
  Unknown: Well, it's interesting that they recognize there's a difference, isn't it?
• 1:22:22
  Well, it would be futile to deny the obvious, wouldn't it? It wouldn't be on the form if it weren't doing the things. It wouldn't be a down to Midwell. I mean, I hearken back to that story that happened to me one of the first time I was going out of the country to go down on my visit to Argentina.
• 1:22:39
  And in that
• 1:22:40
  in that whole debacle and I'd never flown internationally
• 1:22:44
  before, any of that stuff and I'm down there meeting my buddy in Miami and he's been traveling a lot. So, he knows all the protocols and and we get down there. They always,
• 1:22:55
  whatever flight you're on is always at the end of the concourse, you know, that deal?
• 1:23:01
  And so, you gotta walk down a long concourse down there and there's a bunch of people mulling around the gate and and I've never done it before. He's already checked in. He's sitting over there talking to these people.
• 1:23:12
  If you've never heard this story, this is quite interesting, okay? And he's over there talking to this couple and I get through and get my little boarding pass and go find my buddy and go sit down. He introduces introduces
• 1:23:24
  him to me and he says, these guys are from the US Embassy in Jamaica. Have you ever heard me tell this story, Chris?
• 1:23:34
  Unknown: I want to hear it again. I am. It's good story.
• 1:23:37
  Unknown: It's a good story and so,
• 1:23:40
  we have a chance just to talk for a minute
• 1:23:44
  and they
• 1:23:45
  do the boarding call for the airport airplane
• 1:23:49
  and their seats were in the boarding call or something. Anyway, we got up and got separated. I had just talked to him for a minute but I knew who they were and it was boyfriend and girlfriend and both of them worked at the embassy in probably Kingston,
• 1:24:02
  okay? And they were going to Argentina for vacation for a month to tour the country
• 1:24:08
  and so we get on the flight and it's one of these big planes because it's a long flight. It's a nine hour flight
• 1:24:15
  and
• 1:24:16
  and everybody's
• 1:24:17
  overnight of course and so you people sleep if they can and all that. Well, in the morning, everybody needs to go to the bathroom.
• 1:24:24
  Ain't that about the first thing you do when you wake up is want to go to the bathroom. You want a cup of coffee. Yes. Sure. Smoke or you want a cigarette. And and you want to that's first word you learn in Spanish. El Bano.
• 1:24:37
  Okay? You want to El Bano and
• 1:24:40
  so, everybody's waking up about the same time and if they're not awake yet, every people stirring around and wake em up and so, everybody kind of gets up the same time and they somebody opens a window and the boom, the sun comes into the cabin and wakes a bunch of people up. So, they all head to the bathrooms at the same time when those planes, they're in certain areas and in the middle part was where our bathroom was. I go get in line. My buddy's right ahead of me and low and behold,
• 1:25:08
  who's in front of him but the or behind me right there in in next to us is this guy from the embassy
• 1:25:17
  and so,
• 1:25:18
  I get a chance. He's a captive audience in a line waiting to use the bathroom on a plane.
• 1:25:27
  And so. Yeah. I say, what do you do at the embassy? I said, you know, there's a lot of people because this was eight, ten years ago and that was when the expatriation
• 1:25:36
  surge
• 1:25:37
  was first starting and a lot of people were expatriating
• 1:25:40
  which is a whole process you gotta go through to the state department. You gotta have another slave country passport already done. All that done and you show them that and give em your passport back and it's cost you now about $4,000.05,
• 1:25:55
  0 to go through that. You used to do it for a couple of 100 back when I'm having this conversation with this guy and so, I said, there's a lot of people that are really starting to expatriate
• 1:26:05
  now and he looks at me and he says, that's my job at the embassy.
• 1:26:13
  And I go, well, do you know that there's two forms of citizenship in The United States?
• 1:26:20
  And you to think that I shocked that guy with a cattle prod, okay? Because he just got this blank.
• 1:26:27
  No, I'm not kidding you now, Chris. He got this blank, serious look on his face and he said, I wouldn't know about that. You'd have to talk to the legal staff up in DC. I don't know anything about that. I don't know anything about that. And then he and then
• 1:26:41
  he immediately
• 1:26:42
  left the line to go to the bathroom that we'd been standing on and went to the front of the plane like a scalded jackal and I never saw him again.
• 1:26:55
  The truth was too dangerous for him to talk about. Well, he couldn't he couldn't face somebody that knew what they were talking about because he knew it too.
• 1:27:05
  Unknown: The jig was up.
• 1:27:08
  Unknown: Okay.
• 1:27:09
  And that was a personal experience and boy, did it open my eyes because I was still real new to this stuff.
• 1:27:16
  I mean, I'd gotten my passport. I'd done the application, found the hole,
• 1:27:21
  applied, and gotten it just
• 1:27:24
  right before I went on that trip,
• 1:27:27
  okay? And I was still putting a lot of this together in my mind but I knew that I was on the right track and that little incident right there helped to confirm it.
• 1:27:41
  Unknown: Well, some might find it curious. The paperwork I just put in has title 18 USC
• 1:27:46
  nine one one, a significant number. So some of us who pay attention to the world powers and other things that have happened on those auspicious numbers of nine eleven,
• 1:27:56
  like, Oklahoma City and Waco and some other places.
• 1:28:00
  And
• 1:28:01
  that nine one one says it's a felony for someone to claim they're a US citizen
• 1:28:07
  if they can't prove it. And my point that I make in the paperwork is that,
• 1:28:12
  being that a US citizen is a dead corporate fictitious entity proving it could be a bit of a challenge for living people.
• 1:28:19
  Unknown: I sure wish I could get that corporate out of your mind. Excuse me for the ship high in transit out of your thinking
• 1:28:26
  about this.
• 1:28:27
  It's it's it's not a they're a corporation. You're a piece of property.
• 1:28:34
  Unknown: Well, exactly. And so I try to remind them of that softly. I don't wanna hurt their feelings too badly, but when they testify
• 1:28:44
  plainly on the record to their incompetence,
• 1:28:47
  it's hard for me not to bring it to their attention in court, but it could be dangerous.
• 1:28:51
  Unknown: Did you did you happen to see
• 1:28:54
  I'm just gonna deviate a little bit because I just watched it.
• 1:28:59
  Did you happen to see the
• 1:29:01
  exchange between this
• 1:29:05
  this now very high
• 1:29:07
  high
• 1:29:08
  whatever
• 1:29:10
  that black
• 1:29:13
  Muslim woman from Michigan's
• 1:29:16
  name is.
• 1:29:18
  Unknown: That's called. Yeah. Something
• 1:29:20
  Unknown: like that. Onar or something like like She's caused a lot of ruckus up there lately.
• 1:29:24
  And here in just the last couple days.
• 1:29:27
  Did you happen to see her exchange with Elliot Abrams
• 1:29:30
  on a
• 1:29:32
  house of representatives panel within the last day or two?
• 1:29:37
  Unknown: I heard some of it on another show, so I'm aware,
• 1:29:42
  she
• 1:29:43
  hates,
• 1:29:44
  Semites
• 1:29:45
  supposedly,
• 1:29:47
  although those those that call themselves that,
• 1:29:50
  maybe erroneously,
• 1:29:51
  I think. But she's Islamic, and she was wearing a blue hajib.
• 1:29:56
  And, it was really quite,
• 1:29:59
  obviously, she hates America, stupid Americans, and the ones who have been bombing her country. Well, I kinda see your point of view about that. Why are we bombing people that aren't attacking our country,
• 1:30:10
  just to do hedge global hegemony
• 1:30:13
  Oh. And support the giantess agenda. No. No. It's a national security.
• 1:30:18
  Unknown: Well,
• 1:30:19
  she's got Elliot Abrams who's been appointed lately to to come in to the administration
• 1:30:25
  and help oversee this
• 1:30:27
  fiasco they're trying to create next door over in Venezuela.
• 1:30:32
  Okay? Yeah. We don't want to be warned when when it's like I'm not a big fight. I don't I I think Maduro is a crook. I don't think he's running the country or take treating the people right. I think socialism, communism is a whole bag of but let me tell you what, we ain't got no no business in taking our communists under disguise
• 1:30:51
  and running them in there just to take over their damn oil and gold.
• 1:30:57
  Well, sure. Luke Plum, Plunder, and Pilley. They usually do. As much as I as much as I admire a lot of things that Donald J Trump has done so far, him spearheading this. I'm I'm not happy about it all and I don't approve of. Not that my opinion makes any difference but
• 1:31:14
  it it's just not right. You know, was in this conversation,
• 1:31:18
  Chris, in whatever they were in there to talk about, I don't know what the overall conversation was about but this gal
• 1:31:26
  nails his ass,
• 1:31:28
  okay?
• 1:31:29
  And she opens up the dialogue
• 1:31:32
  saying,
• 1:31:33
  you were, you lied in front of congress and were convicted about it
• 1:31:37
  a couple of years here back and George W Bush had to pardon you.
• 1:31:42
  And in this in this in this Nicaragua
• 1:31:45
  or wherever El Salvador, whatever it was down there with the Iran Contras and all that stuff which he was up to his eyeballs in and the massacre, all these people and everything, and, boy, she just absolutely
• 1:31:57
  railed him, buddy. I mean, she didn't do it very eloquently.
• 1:32:01
  You can tell she's not skilled at it. No. But she got her points across.
• 1:32:07
  Unknown: Well, you know, she is a smart woman. There's no doubt about she's Somalia. That's where she's from. Somalia.
• 1:32:12
  And, she is pretty articulate in her non,
• 1:32:16
  original language here in America,
• 1:32:18
  and she's pretty good at holding some of these people and she makes some very salient points that you can't deny. Nope. You can't deny em and they couldn't either and boy,
• 1:32:27
  Unknown: Abrams just got the point after she ran him down about these massacres and stuff going, are we gonna consider that to be good American policy in Venezuela
• 1:32:35
  where we massacre all these women and children and rape and kill these 12 year old girls?
• 1:32:42
  Unknown: I mean, she I've been telling them. And this is now, this is. Chris,
• 1:32:46
  Unknown: this is what I keep talking about on here. It's the snake eating its tail. Where did the Somalians come from? Well, they were brought in here over this big, let's bring everybody in the world and dilute them the main pools. Cycles. Hello.
• 1:33:01
  And and dilute the main pool deal. So, now, enough of em get in one area up in there in Michigan that through the process that they're involved in now, they can elect one of em and put em up there in DC,
• 1:33:13
  and look what the hell she's doing. Coming right back on them. It's the snake eating its tail.
• 1:33:21
  Unknown: I think she's from Wisconsin,
• 1:33:23
  and there were some questions about how she got elected, but apparently, a large proportion of Wisconsinites
• 1:33:32
  Unknown: are Somalis now that the invasion has filled up the place with these foreigners. Are you kidding me? I saw a video. You know, the largest mall in the world is up there?
• 1:33:42
  Yeah, Mall of America. I saw a video taken inside of that place and you were you would have thought you were in a Baghdad bazaar.
• 1:33:55
  And I'm not kidding you. I'm not that sounds like a ridiculous analogy,
• 1:34:00
  and it wasn't. You'd have thought you were in Baghdad, buddy,
• 1:34:04
  Unknown: at the Mall Of America. Sounds to the part of me.
• 1:34:07
  Unknown: Well, so now they got some of them up there in congress and they got
• 1:34:12
  some of these other
• 1:34:13
  left wing wackos like this Casio or Cortez that's getting so much publicity all of a sudden.
• 1:34:20
  A AOC,
• 1:34:22
  isn't that what they call her?
• 1:34:25
  And
• 1:34:26
  and and. Yeah. And all of a sudden, the
• 1:34:29
  now, this is interesting. What did what did they get on her for the other day?
• 1:34:35
  Was stay saying about congress is controlled by Benjamins.
• 1:34:40
  Benjamins.
• 1:34:41
  Now, all the Jewish, all the Jewish lobby is a binge, oh, it's a reference to Jewish money. Well, actually, it was a reference to a rap song. It was talking about Benjamin's being used to help foment corruption
• 1:34:54
  and that's where she used it from that context and she dropped it in there and everybody's
• 1:35:00
  all up in arms, Chris. Oh lord. Even Trump's talking about the anti Semitic marks
• 1:35:06
  in congress because
• 1:35:08
  they use the word Benjamin. Now, I'm going to ask you, Chris.
• 1:35:12
  Do you know that congress, of course, is now back in session? Looks like they might be stay in session. Do you know the first bill? Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. This is important. Do you do you know the first bill that came out of the senate this year, SB one?
• 1:35:28
  Unknown: No, but I know there's a crazy omnibus bill.
• 1:35:33
  Unknown: No. I wanna talk about the first bill that came out of the new senate in this session,
• 1:35:40
  new number SB one. Do you know what that bill does, Chris?
• 1:35:46
  Unknown: I don't recall. It might be the the BDS bill or something. It gives the states cover for BDS.
• 1:35:54
  Unknown: Now, here's a woman saying the word Benjamin that gets railed
• 1:35:59
  for being anti. Oh, how could you say Jewish money influence congress and the first bill out of the senate is in our country
• 1:36:07
  given the state's cover to help suppress the bird diversified
• 1:36:13
  boycott and sanction movement against this our best ally halfway around the world. The first bill that came out of the senate dealt with a foreign power. Now tell me, whose money controls congress?
• 1:36:25
  Their representatives
• 1:36:27
  and senators?
• 1:36:31
  Unknown: Well, there are aspects of bringing foreigners that have clearer vision than dumbed down Americans here to fill the light on the deviosity of the Zionist cult that's trying to take over the world.
• 1:36:44
  Unknown: Might have some collateral benefits for Americans. Now let's let's take that. Let's take that on what you just said and transition into something that I wanted to cover today because I finished watching the video last night. We talked about it yesterday. Uh-huh.
• 1:36:58
  This John B Wells
• 1:36:59
  show from it was a couple of years ago because Obama was still in office because they were referring to that during the show but
• 1:37:07
  the information is incredibly
• 1:37:10
  deep
• 1:37:11
  from a standpoint of his research and what he's got. He's he's got as good a portfolio on this stuff as I've ever seen anybody have in some of these other areas and the area we're talking about and addressing that he does on this video in this interview is technocracy.
• 1:37:28
  Now I put it on I was able last night finally to upload the last couple of days shows to Castbox,
• 1:37:35
  so Tuesday and Wednesday's show are up on Castbox,
• 1:37:40
  and in the show links there, on Tuesday's show is that article on the history of Jewish wealth that we read, Chris?
• 1:37:49
  And on Wednesday. Uh-huh. On Wednesday's show yesterday that was the last one I got uploaded last night. It takes a long time, man. It's super slow and
• 1:38:00
  I put the a link to this John B Wells
• 1:38:04
  Patrick Wood interview.
• 1:38:06
  It's worth listening to and I would encourage all of you to listen to it. I can get you the title here in a minute. Maybe if you want, you can go look it up on YouTube and just search it up, but
• 1:38:19
  it's an important interview and it's important information,
• 1:38:23
  and we need to get it in context
• 1:38:25
  because I believe it is the big umbrella
• 1:38:28
  in the back of the big goal that they're going for.
• 1:38:32
  In this technocracy thing,
• 1:38:34
  and now that they pointed out and were a few years down the line from this interview, you can see it continuing and popping up. You mentioned it a minute ago, Chris, five gs,
• 1:38:44
  okay? And I think five gs is kinda like politics.
• 1:38:49
  You know, the old saying, if you don't take an interest in politics, politics will take an interest in you.
• 1:38:56
  That's right. Well, I think five gs is about the same.
• 1:39:00
  I think five gs's got an interest in you. Each and everyone of you here in these words.
• 1:39:09
  And it's going to affect all of our lives and we don't know how
• 1:39:13
  but we know it's going to be affected by it. So, that's part of this technocracy thing, and the fact is what they're really doing here, Chris,
• 1:39:23
  is switching the economic system.
• 1:39:27
  That's the basis of it, and the economic system they're switching from is the one we've been on that's crashing for them,
• 1:39:35
  and the one they're wanting to go to is this technocracy system they're building where basically the currency is energy.
• 1:39:46
  And that's why all the data gathering
• 1:39:49
  and all the smart web stuff and all the things that are continuing, we see them being integrated into our culture and society,
• 1:39:57
  are to monitor you
• 1:39:59
  on how much energy consumption
• 1:40:01
  that you've gotten. A couple of the the
• 1:40:04
  examples he gave
• 1:40:05
  were this. Let's say you go check into a hotel
• 1:40:09
  and you go in and and you spend the night, you get up in the morning, you get your breakfast, you go get shower, and you go to check out, right?
• 1:40:17
  And when you go to check out, they go, oh, oh, mister Chris,
• 1:40:22
  we're going to have to charge you 20 extra dollars here because your shower was four minutes longer than you were allotted.
• 1:40:34
  That kind of stuff,
• 1:40:36
  okay?
• 1:40:38
  Or you can only, if you're trying to
• 1:40:41
  if you're a woman and you're trying to and you're the housekeeper
• 1:40:45
  and you're trying to do the daily wash and you do your wash and you go to put it in the dryer and go, oh well, you can't run the dryer till 02:00 in the morning when the power levels are reduced.
• 1:41:00
  That kind of stuff. Chris, did you mute out on me and go off somewhere?
• 1:41:05
  Thomas, are you still hanging around? I did looks like you're still. I'm right here, buddy. Okay. Well, so anyway, that this technocracy thing, it's about, it's over three hours long, this program and it took me several sittings to watch it but I would encourage you to to watch it. His information and research is impeccable.
• 1:41:24
  He found to the point that when this stuff who's calling? Shane's calling in. Okay Shane, I'll get you back. He
• 1:41:32
  found the mother load of resources,
• 1:41:35
  and that was up at, believe it or not, the University
• 1:41:40
  of Edmonton in Alberta.
• 1:41:45
  What evidently had happened
• 1:41:47
  was there was a bunch of Canadians that were involved
• 1:41:51
  in this technocracy
• 1:41:52
  revolution back in the 30s because this was happening originally
• 1:41:56
  back in the early 30s
• 1:41:58
  and so the Americans
• 1:42:01
  got rid of it.
• 1:42:02
  Built
• 1:42:03
  up through the 30s. They actually got it taught in Columbia
• 1:42:09
  University
• 1:42:10
  University up in New York City and something happened and they one of the leaders was besmirched
• 1:42:16
  and they knocked the whole thing out of Columbia University and it went dormant
• 1:42:20
  and when it went dormant, the whole movement went dormant for a while, at least on the surface,
• 1:42:26
  and the Canadian members
• 1:42:28
  got together and said, We need to pool all the information and the paperwork
• 1:42:33
  and everything we've done on this over the years and put it in one place so that people can access it. Well, he found it,
• 1:42:42
  and he went up there and spent a week, and he said it was like this treasure trove. So this guy really knows what he's talking about, and he's got impeccable research, and that is worth spending a few hours of your time on if you want to really understand what's going on here because I think he's hit the nail on the head. This is the big umbrella,
• 1:43:00
  the big kahuna of what they're trying to achieve,
• 1:43:04
  and believe me, he goes into a lot of depth in over three hours with examples and proof talking about it. So it's worth watching. I'll put it on today's
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  show description also up there on castbox.fm,
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  and if you're new, Everyday Show is put up,
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  for the most part when I can,
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  on castbox.fm,
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  and when you get to that page,
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  in search,
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  put either Radio Ranch, two words, or PPN,
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  and those episodes will pop up.
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  Unknown: Or your name.
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  Unknown: Hey, Shane. How in the world are you doing?
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  Unknown: Hello there, Roger. I'm doing alright. I'm just reporting
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  that the caravan, the mid midnight. Yes. It is episode two fifty.
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  Unknown: Okay. Patrick Wood. Oh, good. Two fifty. That's pretty easy to remember.
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  Episode two fifty is John B Wells,
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  Caravan to Midnight. With Patrick Wood. Episode
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  two fifty with Patrick Wood. I'll put the link in the show description up there today too but it's pretty easily accessible. I think you can find it fairly easily and
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  it's worth spending some time watching. Don't you agree, Shane? Have you watched it?
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  Unknown: Absolutely. Yes. I watched it, but I fall asleep halfway through it. So I have to watch it again.
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  Unknown: Say, Shane,
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  that Patrick Wood, that's augustforecast.com,
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  I think is his website.
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  He is a
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  expositor of
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  immense knowledge
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  regarding technocracy
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  or techno crazy as I prefer to call it. And, very, very studied in these matters and very,
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  that's from the silent weapons for quiet wars, which was the template for the takeover of technocracy
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  of weaponizing
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  all forms of technology on the planet to use with the people.
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  Unknown: Yep. It's a it's a giant I mean, you know, this is what we teach too. We just don't look at it like that. What are they talking about? A giant feud.
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  They're the kings of the earth.
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  They, just like in the feudal era where the king would dish out the land to the lords and the, all the successive people would get it, well they're dishing out the land of the earth, except it's not just
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  tiara,
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  it's also done through the proprietary
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  rights of
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  corporations.
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  The corporations
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  that you keep referring to are the new feuds.
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  They're not land,
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  they're areas of responsibility
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  and products and commerce,
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  and that's what the TPP
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  treaty was supposed to do, was cement
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  the feuds
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  over the countries
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  where it takes away all the country's authority to operate in any kind of sovereign manner, and it's all dictated by boards,
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  which are appointed corporate directors for life with no board of appeal.
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  That was the system. We were that close to moving into it. God bless President Trump for getting rid of that TPP crap.
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  But you see, there's the conceptual
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  implementation
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  of this feudal stuff.
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  The feuds are the corporate boards and the corporations
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  and the areas of product services that they
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  dictate.
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  Unknown: And
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  Unknown: of course, have you ever seen a feud without any serfs?
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  Could you have a feud without any serfs?
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  No.
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  Because there'd be nobody to do the labor.
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  When you understand and start looking at things conceptually,
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  this is why I preach conceptual, conceptual, conceptual. Get out of the damn minutiae in the law books and the court cases. Start understanding this conceptually,
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  then go back and look in the court cases and the statutes, and then you'll understand what the hell they're saying.
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  Let's see. Patrick's gonna join us here if I call him back. So,
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  Shane, did you have anything to add besides it was nice you give us episode two fifty though. I appreciate that.
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  Unknown: Yeah, I just that's pretty much it for now. Okay. Well. I'll jump in later. Okay, Shane. Well, thanks for the two fifty, buddy.
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  Unknown: But Patrick just jumped in or Shane jumped out. Hey, Patrick. What's going on today, brother?
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  Unknown: I'll beat the streets, helping everybody get what they want so I can get what I want. There you go.
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  That little talicized paragraph I forgot to ask you about yesterday.
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  Did it not talk about them knocking the little guy out and bringing the the the chain business in?
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  Do you remember selling $1.34,
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  $1.35? It it it it really talked about pushing the little man out and bringing in a
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  Unknown: a chain type thing like Walmart or something where it's pushing us entrepreneurs out of the way at the smaller levels. Well, that's what they're doing all over. They wanna totally control everything through those those outlets and those stores as much as possible.
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  Look how many small business people went out of business in the last ten, fifteen years through that Obama stretch.
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  Unknown: Remember? Remember? My dad yeah. Yeah. You remember? Oh, yeah. Well, my dad, was in the sewing business in East Tennessee,
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  and they had,
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  you know, from textiles and all up in the northern part of of Alabama, and I was known for textiles,
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  Georgia, whatnot. Well,
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  had 50 sewers. And by the time they got through with them, were down to me buying them embroidery machine to hang on. They've repoed
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  everything from them over time, and, he'd married a girl in the sewing industry.
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  And, that was the that was the game for Tennessee River all the way up to, Knoxville was,
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  sewing. And they were making BTUs and mini skirts out of camouflage for,
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  places in New York and, just anything they could sew, but they flat out put them out.
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  And he wouldn't buy anything from
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  he wouldn't buy anything from Walmart.
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  Unknown: Refused to. He hated them with a passion. This was back in the late nineties. Yep. They totally destroy the local economy. Remember when Obama first got in there, Patrick? I was gonna pose this question to you because I know a little bit about your history, okay? Remember when Obama got up there and he's talking to that bunch, he said, see that wrecking business over there?
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  He didn't build that business.
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  No. It was given to him by his his daddy. Yeah. Yeah. You didn't build that business. Yeah. Did you there, Patrick? Is this?
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  Unknown: No. It it came to me over an epiphany one night when I was dreaming. And it was there and they warned on the scene. Yeah. Hell, I was drinking coffee and it appeared right in front of me there, Obama.
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  Unknown: Ridiculous
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  of these people is beyond belief, and it's that
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  socially, that mindset right there that a lot of small business owners had a whole
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  tough road to hoe over the last ten, fifteen years, And they may have a tougher one in front of them, but let's hope not.
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  Unknown: I think we do. I think it's gonna collapse. Something's got to have the things got to fall apart.
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  I don't know when or how or what. I hope I can hang on three or four years because I'm gonna cash in and and get out of the way.
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  Oh. You know, that average business will last twenty four years. And then after that, the kids don't wanna do it, it goes out of business. And it I'll be damn fine. My
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  my,
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  body shop business closed exactly on that number. I got burned out, arguing with the insurance companies, and then they treat me like a hoard of Bravo house, and I just don't play well with others. I shut it down. And, we made money in the eighties and nineties, but around 2000, it started to everybody was watching everybody. You just couldn't get nothing done. The old school mentality had left, and the cars had changed. They put airbags in them taking telling people it was for safety. Well, it was to really to get the car, get you back in the finance game in the front door because $3.04, $5,000 put bags in it with total a car we normally fixed.
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  And we would argue about that all the time. And if a car got to 60%,
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  they just totally. They didn't care what, you know, what happened. And, you know, I'm dialing for dollars running records on the road to get a 03:00 rate storm to bring in some juice, and it just got to where they were controlling me, just dictating. And they were telling me if I didn't fix it so many hours, I had to pay the rental bill and and just own and own and own.
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  And,
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  I, you know, I read the writing on the wall, so I backed out of it. And,
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  I'm in another argument as you well know, but good show today. Enjoyed it bits and pieces. Be back at you tomorrow, but I just couldn't get a handle on the phone kept blowing up. Well, that's okay, man. I'm glad I'm Enjoy listening to y'all. Alright. I know we got a few of us out there and smart folks that have come away. Shut up.
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  Unknown: Especially,
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  you know, Chris, hold on. I'm particularly
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  excited because Patrick, you're relatively new and Thomas now over there in Texas and his bunch relatively new. So, there's some new blood coming in that really inspires me a lot. Thomas is going to set up a show if he can next week with this other guy of some prominence in Texas. Patrick and I would
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  I know you don't miss very many shows and hopefully you won't miss that one. I think we'll cover some good ground there. I'm pretty excited about the prospect of that too, Thomas.
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  Unknown: Chris, what we do as a matter of fact,
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  Unknown: as a matter of fact. I got a few folks in Bible study that are interested. They they asked about your book and I gave them the information.
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  Unknown: I deal with them every Tuesday night. We we do Skype study and they're going to reach out to you very soon. They're real interested in the deal. Okay. Well, they can either get us live or get us through the replay or get us through Cashbox. So, the lesson is available there if somebody wants the information. What were you gonna say, Thomas?
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  Unknown: Michael was hauled
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  Unknown: during
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  the show
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  and so I put it on mute and turn the volume down, and he told me some very interesting things, and he does want you to call him to set this up, and I'll give you his phone number. I'll send it you. Yeah. Just send it to me in an email, Thomas, if you would. Very interesting. He's run for president of The United States by the way. Is it, what's his name? Michael Bettner. Bud, is his name? He's not a songwriter.
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  Unknown: I've I've heard him on different shows years ago but it's been on a number of years.
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  Unknown: Yes. He's,
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  he was,
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  just
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  enlightening me to the max on what he's been doing, and he was talking about the three, four, and five star passport,
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  which he's got a four and he was comparing it with his friends that have their married couple.
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  One has a three star and the other one has a five star and he's trying to get the information out of what these stars mean. Well, here's what you tell him. You take that that Supreme Court case from 1835
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  Unknown: and you and and if you hadn't seen that, you need to know about it because it says the passport. DRC.
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  Yeah. Doctor is it doesn't make a damn. What really matters is what documentation is in the possession of the secretary,
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  and if it's of a high quality enough to be admissible in a court of law, and there's the ball game right there.
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  Yeah. But there's something going on with those stars. He just wants he's he's like me. Now I want I've never I've I've never heard of any kind of star identification on him, so I'll be interested to know about this too. Chris?
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  Unknown: In the last moments here, I have a story notwithstanding the secret elements of the reasons for Valentine's Day that will warm the cockles of Valentine's Day.
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  In Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US attorney William explained
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  that John Kelvin Conner
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  Esquire
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  62
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  was told by a jury of 19 counts of wire fraud, one count of making a false statement to federal agents,
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  and an attorney devised and participated in scheme to defraud an elderly woman out of more than 95,000 so he could gamble with her money at casinos.
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  And the victim had signed a power of attorney agreement with the defendant that granted him the authority to manage her finances and pay her bills. And at the time, she lived at home but required the assistance of multiple caregivers.
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  And, her estate
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  was looted and pillaged and plundered by this guy, but that's on the justice.gov
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  website
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  in Philly, PA. And there's also another one about local union
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  ninety eight there, the electrical workers, IBEW,
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  the same one I worked for with corruption here.
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  They were raised up, and the county commissioner and the union officials and MK Construction were all guilty of playing on and stealing pensions of members and looting their trust funds and all kinds of chicanery there in Pennsylvania,
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  Unknown: and that should make people happy on Valentine's Happy Valentine's Day. Well, here's a Valentine for you. I saw the story. We hadn't got a chance to talk about it that a number of pension funds are starting to buy cryptocurrencies.
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  So
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  that's good news. There's all kinds of good stuff. We just gotta find it. We'll talk about it tomorrow with Brent.
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  You guys know that's always a special show and Brent's real special. So, we'll see you tomorrow. Have a good day from
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  Coyote,
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  Ecuador.
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  Coyote,
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  We'll
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  get this thing turned up. See you later on.
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  Unknown: When you get a chance. Yeah.
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  Unknown: Will do, Thomas.
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  Ciao. Okay.
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  Unknown: Voice Radio Network.
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  Unknown: Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.