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Credlin | 24 July · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Pedo Krandler live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Great ta v Kapney, Welcome to the show.
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Speaker 2: He's what's coming up tonight on Kredline. Democracy incompatible with Islam, Well,
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Speaker 2: at least that's the view of radical preachers in Southwest
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Speaker 2: Sydney have even called for Sharia Lord to become the
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Speaker 2: dominant legal foundation in Australia. That exclusive story out today
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Speaker 2: and the reaction to from MPs to the Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: backs down, with the asy O boss returning to the
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Speaker 2: National Security Committee of Cabinet. A new survey finds that
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Speaker 2: the majority of Australians reject our current record high immigration.
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Speaker 2: Labor promised these numbers would come down. Instead they just increased.
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Speaker 2: As the Greens today demand we take more people out
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Speaker 2: of DAZA. Talk of a reshuffle has labor mp scrambling, well,
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Speaker 2: who needs to go? We'll write a list for you,
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Speaker 2: but I warn you it won't be short and expect
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Speaker 2: more power Bill pain as the regulator reveals huge spikes
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Speaker 2: and the wholesale power prices largely driven by the failure
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Speaker 2: of wind.
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Speaker 3: We can't continue a situation. The labour has us on
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Speaker 3: of a renewables only policy because as we know, the
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Speaker 3: power prices are just going to keep going up under
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Speaker 3: this Prime minister. We also know that we're going to
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Speaker 3: see blackouts and brownouts.
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Speaker 2: But first, all that talk about renewables being the cheapest
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Speaker 2: form of energy continues to be exposed for the lies
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Speaker 2: it is as we let Chris Bowen destroy Australia's once
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Speaker 2: competitive advantage of affordable and reliable based load power despite
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister's promises at the last election. The latest
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Speaker 2: figures from the Energy market operator out today is show
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Speaker 2: that wholesale power costs have gone up by twenty three
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Speaker 2: percent on average over the past year, mainly due to
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Speaker 2: breakdowns in old coal plants, wind droughts, and higher gas
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Speaker 2: usage to keep the lights on when the wind is
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Speaker 2: blowing and the sun is shining. And it's all going
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Speaker 2: to get a lot worse as domestic gas supplies get
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Speaker 2: scarcer due to labour's inability or unwillingness to get new
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Speaker 2: gas fields open. At both state and federal level. Labor
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Speaker 2: either won't stop or secretly supports the new green law
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Speaker 2: fare that makes fossil fuel projects all but impossible, even gas,
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Speaker 2: which is half the emissions of coal. And this pain
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Speaker 2: was all predicted when Labour blocked an Abbot government attempt
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Speaker 2: to end green law fare back in twenty fifteen, and
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Speaker 2: it's recently restored funding to the Environmental Defender's Office, which
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Speaker 2: specializes in finding tricked up indigenous heritage issues to put
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Speaker 2: endless obstacles in the way of new projects. So why
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Speaker 2: as our power supply that we once could take for
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Speaker 2: granted suddenly become so problematic, Well, essentially because for years
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Speaker 2: now we've run it to reduce emissions, not to produce
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Speaker 2: reliable and affordable power. And yes, nuclear one day we'll
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Speaker 2: provide emissions free twenty four seven baseload, but that's a
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Speaker 2: decade off, even if the coal this should wins the
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Speaker 2: next election and gets cracking right away, meaning that instead
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Speaker 2: of commissioning new coal fired power stations that remain by
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Speaker 2: far the cheapest way to produce reliable baseload power, we've
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Speaker 2: rammed up the supply of intermitten renewables. But it only
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Speaker 2: gives us power these renewables when the wind blows and sunshines,
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Speaker 2: meaning that for much of the time it gives us nothing,
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Speaker 2: and we're forced to back it up with expensive and
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Speaker 2: increasingly scarce gas If power prices and threats of blackouts
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Speaker 2: are the reality now when coal still provides Austrade gear
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Speaker 2: with sixty percent of our total electricity, just see how
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Speaker 2: much worse it'll be when Bowen gets coal down to
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Speaker 2: ten percent, supposedly, says Labor in just six years time.
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Speaker 2: This is the Chris Bowen train wreck to turn our
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Speaker 2: power from among the world's cheapest to among the world's
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Speaker 2: most expensive because of his admissions obsession. But what can
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Speaker 2: we expect from a minister who's failed dismaldly at every
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Speaker 2: portfolio he's ever had. In recent weeks, I've been bringing
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Speaker 2: reports about Australian Muslims who want people to vote on
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Speaker 2: religious lines. Organizations like the Muslim Vote, which is currently
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Speaker 2: looking for Gaza candidates to support in Western Sydney, think
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Speaker 2: that Muslims should vote on the basis of religious concerns
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Speaker 2: rather than their perception of the national interest. Hardline and
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Speaker 2: over the top though this group is. It's too soft
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Speaker 2: and easy going for even the most extreme Islamist, said
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Speaker 2: our mist As The Australian reports today, some the Muslim
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Speaker 2: preachers claim that democracy itself is against Islam and that
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Speaker 2: voting makes people bad Muslims. Last Friday, a preacher called
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Speaker 2: wasimhadd called Muslims in parliament apostates even called on Muslims
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Speaker 2: to boycott democratic elections because it said democracy is a
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Speaker 2: shirk and an insult to Allah.
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Speaker 4: Let's not forget that it is democracy, the same democracy
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Speaker 4: that is causing all the deaths in the Muslim Leans,
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Speaker 4: the majority of the deaths in the Muslim leans. When
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Speaker 4: they invade the Muslim lands, your lands, our lands, the
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Speaker 4: Muslim lands, they invaded with democracy in mind. So we're
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Speaker 4: coming to kill you to take you away from oppression,
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Speaker 4: to give you democracy.
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Speaker 2: And he went on to say the system is always
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Speaker 2: going to fail if it is not ours. Islam's preacher
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Speaker 2: this time, someone known as Jassim du al High, said
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Speaker 2: that the experience of Senator Fatima payment showed the politics
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Speaker 2: was quote not an option for the Muslim community. So
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Speaker 2: with rival and opposing Australian Muslim leaders are to be believed,
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Speaker 2: either Muslims should vote as a religious block on the
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Speaker 2: basis of their religious concerns, namely the government's supposed complicity
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Speaker 2: in the so called genocide and Gaza, or they should
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Speaker 2: boycott voting altogether because democracy is at odds with Islam.
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Speaker 2: Now now the message is compatible with a migrant community's
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Speaker 2: integration into a cohesive Australian community. That's why the latest
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Speaker 2: move from the Greens is so bizarre. The party that
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Speaker 2: used to be all about the environment but is now
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Speaker 2: pro drug, anti Australian extreme I mean, their leader out
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Speaker 2: in Band even refuses to stand in front of the
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Speaker 2: Australian flag. Now they're demanding that Australia immediately admit more
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Speaker 2: migrants from Gaza, on top of the one thousand or
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Speaker 2: so that have come here since October seven and the
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Speaker 2: more than a thousand that have been approved and not
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Speaker 2: yet arrived. Green Senator David Shubritch says, and I quote,
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Speaker 2: there's no question that the Almeneser government has failed to
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Speaker 2: meet the moment when it comes to accepting people fleeing
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Speaker 2: the genocide in Gaza. He says, barely two thousand Palestinians
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Speaker 2: have been able to find temporary refuge in Australia, so
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Speaker 2: we should and must do better. And that's questionable when
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Speaker 2: poling shows that roughly two thirds of Gazans support her
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Speaker 2: muss and think that the October seven atrocity is justified
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Speaker 2: You're kidding me if you think we want them in Australia.
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Speaker 2: The last thing we need is to import more of
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Speaker 2: the quarrels from other countries. There's more than enough extreme
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Speaker 2: is in here already. Any one of the majority of
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Speaker 2: the Australian say in a poll out today that they're
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Speaker 2: against our high immigration rate and they want the government
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Speaker 2: to reverse it. Are the head to Camber now for
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Speaker 2: the headlines Skynian's political reporter Oliviakaisley.
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Speaker 5: Good Evening, the acting Prime Minister, Richard Miles says he's
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Speaker 5: confident the Orcast partnership will endure in the event of
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Speaker 5: a second Trump presidency.
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Speaker 6: We are really confident that that is on track.
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Speaker 1: Every milestone is being met.
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Speaker 5: It comes as the new head of the British Army
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Speaker 5: says UK forces must be ready to fight a war
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Speaker 5: in three years amid growing geostrategic tension in Europe and
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Speaker 5: the Indo Pacific.
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Speaker 7: Everything in our history tells you that when you think
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Speaker 7: they're down and out, they come flying back.
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Speaker 8: So why would this century be any different.
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Speaker 6: I think we are seeing.
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Speaker 1: A growing coordination.
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Speaker 5: Peter Dutton has seized on a new report that supports
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Speaker 5: the coalition's nuclear place. He says Australia can't continue with
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Speaker 5: a renewables only strategy as.
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Speaker 3: We know the power prices are just going to keep
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Speaker 3: going up under this Prime minister. We also know that
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Speaker 3: we're going to see blackouts and brownouts.
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Speaker 5: The Australian Academy of Technological Sciences and Engineering says prototypes
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Speaker 5: small modular reactors could be commercialized by the late twenty thirties.
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Speaker 5: Amid criticism of the cost of the plan and timeline
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Speaker 5: for delivery, The Opposition leader says this reports a sign
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Speaker 5: his ambitious plan is feasible. Sky News can reveal that
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Speaker 5: Labour has backflipped on its decision for ASIO Director General
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Speaker 5: Mike Burgess to consult on national security matters on a
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Speaker 5: case by case basis, instead restoring his permanent position of
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Speaker 5: the National Security Committee. It's understood this change was made
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Speaker 5: just recently and comes amid an explosion in espionage and
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Speaker 5: foreign interference in Australia. The Albanezi government was roundly criticized
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Speaker 5: for initially diluting mister Burgess's contribution to the grouping which
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Speaker 5: makes decisions on the most urgent and high risk national
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Speaker 5: security matters. A heavily redacted freedom of information request obtained
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Speaker 5: by Sky News shows the change happened as early as
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Speaker 5: January of last year. In a letter from the Attorney
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Speaker 5: General Mark Dreyfus to mister Burgess on January nine of
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Speaker 5: last year, he thanked him for his contribution on behalf
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Speaker 5: of the Prime Minister and the committee. Shadow Home Affairs
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Speaker 5: Minister James Patterson says it's welcome they have finally come
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Speaker 5: to their senses, although only after their recklessness was publicly exposed.
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Speaker 5: Our national security has been damaged by this episode and
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Speaker 5: the Prime Minister should take responsibility publicly explain his change
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Speaker 5: of heart and apologize.
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Speaker 2: All right from one of those headlines I've joined out
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Speaker 2: by Sky News senior reporter Carolyn Marcus and The Daily
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Speaker 2: Telegraph senior reporter John Rolfe.
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Speaker 6: Welcome to you both.
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Speaker 2: I'll start if I can, with the issue I just
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Speaker 2: discussed in my editorial, Alexi Dimitriade's exclusive piece in The
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Speaker 2: Australian Today exposing this extremist group, his victoria and their
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Speaker 2: attack on Australia's democracy and the more the vote campaign. Caroline,
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Speaker 2: first to you on this one, Abu O Sayid, who
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Speaker 2: we've talked about a number of times. Here is quoted
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Speaker 2: in the papers saying that the system is always going
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Speaker 2: to fail if it's not Allahs. We want to get
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Speaker 2: to a position, he says, where Muslims have power so
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Speaker 2: that we can implement more of the way in Sharia.
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Speaker 2: So it's all out in the open now, A very
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Speaker 2: clear objective from some of these preachers is more Sharia law,
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Speaker 2: or certainly the introduction a Sharia law in Australia.
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Speaker 9: Are you surprised, no, Peter, I mean it's been clear
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Speaker 9: for some time that these people, these groups have been
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Speaker 9: pushing their hateful anti Australia, anti West messages onto their followers.
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Speaker 6: For a long time.
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Speaker 9: What continues to surprise me is that the authorities do
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Speaker 9: absolutely nothing about it and just let them continue. I mean,
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Speaker 9: let's remember his book Tari one of the groups you
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Speaker 9: just mentioned. They are a designated terrorist organization in the
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Speaker 9: UK in Germany, even if our own government hasn't banned
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Speaker 9: them here. And you might remember one of their senior members,
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Speaker 9: a bloke by the name of Sheikh Ibrahim Daddoune. He
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Speaker 9: was on the streets of Western Sydney on the day
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Speaker 9: of the October seven attack calling it a day of
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Speaker 9: victory and talking about how elated he was. The other guy,
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Speaker 9: abu as Us said he's previously boasted about his friendship
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Speaker 9: with Islamic state fighters. He's currently the subject of a
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Speaker 9: racial vilification complaint by a peak Jewish body after he
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Speaker 9: gave sermons calling Jews descendants of monkeys and pigs, accused
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Speaker 9: them of stealing Organs said, if all the Muslims in
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Speaker 9: the Middle East were to spit on Israel, then Jews
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Speaker 9: would drowned. We know who these people are, and they
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Speaker 9: are hateful, dangerous radical Islamists. And the Sharia that they're
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Speaker 9: encouraging their followers to push for in Australia, well, we
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Speaker 9: know what happens in countries that are governed by Sharia law.
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Speaker 9: There's brutal corporal punishment for people who are homosexual. Women
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Speaker 9: are forced to wear hijabs. In cases in Iran, for example,
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Speaker 9: there is literally the risk of death if you don't
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Speaker 9: cover your hair. As a woman, they need to get
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Speaker 9: permission from their husbands or other men in their lives
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Speaker 9: to do pretty much everything. And this is what these
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Speaker 9: people are calling for. This is the vision that they
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Speaker 9: have for Australia. It is dangerous and they need to
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Speaker 9: be stopped.
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Speaker 2: Well, the politics of it, John, is what I'm interested in,
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Speaker 2: because when you look at the polls and they're consistently
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Speaker 2: on trend now it's very tough for the government to
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Speaker 2: end up with majority government if the polls are accurate.
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Speaker 2: After the next election, they headed for money minority territory.
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Speaker 6: They're likely to lose.
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Speaker 2: Seats to the Greens in Brisbane, They're likely to lose
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Speaker 2: seats to the.
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Speaker 6: Greens in Melbourne.
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Speaker 2: I can't see them holding their gains in Western Australia,
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Speaker 2: or certainly not all of their gains. It'll come down
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Speaker 2: to Sydney, and it'll come down to Western Sydney.
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Speaker 6: We've seen how.
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Speaker 2: Strong the Muslim vote organization has been in Britain, We've
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Speaker 2: seen the growth of.
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Speaker 6: It in France.
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Speaker 2: House is playing out for labor MPs like Tony Burke
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Speaker 2: and Jason Clear.
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Speaker 6: Do you think this.
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Speaker 10: Is a serious threat for those cabinet ministers that you've
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Speaker 10: mentioned in the seat of Watson. In Tony Burke's seat,
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Speaker 10: you've got a Muslim population of a quarter of all adults,
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Speaker 10: so that's a really big chunk that's being told to
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Speaker 10: vote in a particular way direct their votes away from
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Speaker 10: the sitting member and in may cases, I suppose, akin
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Speaker 10: to what happened to the Liberals of the last election
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Speaker 10: with the Teals. I think the difference here is whether
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Speaker 10: or not the Muslim vote, even though it managed to
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Speaker 10: take five seats from the Labor with a U government
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Speaker 10: in the UK and that recent landslide victory, can they
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Speaker 10: find candidates that people will coalesce behind in the same
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Speaker 10: way as occurred with the Teals across Sydney and Melbourne.
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Speaker 10: I think that's the big question. They're having difficulties cementing candidates.
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Speaker 10: They seem to be very disorganized on the ground. I've
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Speaker 10: been in Western Sydney today and last week trying to
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Speaker 10: talk to the people who are behind the Muslim vote
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Speaker 10: here in Australia. It's pretty shambolic. It's very difficult to
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Speaker 10: track them down. I wonder whether or not they will
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Speaker 10: form the same sort of successful structure that Simon Holmes
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Speaker 10: are Homes of Court put behind the Teals through Climate
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Speaker 10: two hundred last time. Certainly there's mimicry in that structure,
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Speaker 10: down to calling their fundraising division Community two hundred. But
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Speaker 10: behind the scenes there's the vision. There's changing. There's a
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Speaker 10: revolving door in terms of the names and the people
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Speaker 10: who are putting theirs on the paperwork. And I really
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Speaker 10: wonder whether or not, when it comes to the ballot box,
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Speaker 10: if there'll be the force that the Teals were. That said,
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Speaker 10: you have to give them credit for at least being
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Speaker 10: willing to engage in democracy, unlike other people that Alexi
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Speaker 10: are highlighted today in his coverage in The Australian.
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Speaker 2: I think, what are the challenges for the media and
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Speaker 2: certainly other political parties under threat in these Western Sidy
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Speaker 2: seats from a growth in a Muslim vote organization.
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Speaker 6: John will be.
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Speaker 2: How difficult it will be to monitor what said and
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Speaker 2: to analyze the campaigning when much of this will happen
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Speaker 2: inside mosques on Friday prayers. It will happen in language,
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Speaker 2: it will happen in Arabic language, it will happen in
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Speaker 2: the languages of the other sort of adherence.
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Speaker 6: Of the faith.
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Speaker 2: It's a lot less, I guess, transparent than what we
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Speaker 2: saw with the Teals.
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Speaker 10: Yes, and I suppose that's what's so shocking about the
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Speaker 10: coverage today in the Australian, where we're hearing it in English.
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Speaker 10: This speech that really doesn't fit with Australian values and
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Speaker 10: really I think exposes some pretty hateful positions. And I
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Speaker 10: think that if we did know it all in real time,
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Speaker 10: if we did have eyes and ears on these things,
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Speaker 10: and it would probably end up blowing itself up. You know,
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Speaker 10: it would end up being something that would be unpalatable
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Speaker 10: even to moderate Muslims in the Sydney community.
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Speaker 6: We'll watch this one closely. Again.
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Speaker 2: This is why the government should never have taken the
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Speaker 2: as O chief out of the National Cabinet to a
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Speaker 2: security committee. They did is now then return. This is
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Speaker 2: precisely why I should be in the room all the time.
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Speaker 2: And new analysis today Caroline about population and birthday from
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Speaker 2: KPMG has found that we're in a baby recession so
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Speaker 2: bad that we haven't seen the like of it since
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Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies. Cost of living pressures are forcing people
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Speaker 2: to hold off or even rethink starting families, as Sydney
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Speaker 2: leads the nation in this baby drought, followed by Melbourne
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Speaker 2: and then Perth. When we were last time in this
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Speaker 2: sort of territory, Howard government introduced the baby bonus that
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Speaker 2: was abolished in twenty fourteen. I wasn't a great fan.
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Speaker 2: But I have to say, but what needs to be done?
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Speaker 2: Do we bring it back?
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Speaker 9: Look, maybe maybe we need to wheel out the former
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Speaker 9: Treasurer Peter Castello when he's not pushing journalists sober and airports,
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Speaker 9: allegedly to encourage us to have one for mum, one
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Speaker 9: for dad and one for the country. Look, it's a
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Speaker 9: catch twenty two because if the government doesn't and the
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Speaker 9: country doesn't fix its birth rate, then we rely even
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Speaker 9: more heavily on immigration than we already are to fix
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Speaker 9: things like job shortages and get skilled workers here where
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Speaker 9: where we have gaps and we have an aging population.
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Speaker 9: If we don't fix the birth rate, then in a
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Speaker 9: couple of maybe one or two generations, the country looks
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Speaker 9: very different to how it does currently. And I get it,
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Speaker 9: you know, with a pandemic first and now the cost
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Speaker 9: of living crisis, a lot of people feel like it's
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Speaker 9: not a good time to have children. Yet it is
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Speaker 9: very expensive, especially in somewhere like Sydney. I know as
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Speaker 9: a mom of two it's very expensive.
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Speaker 6: To have kids.
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Speaker 9: But whether it means whether we even have the money
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Speaker 9: for the government to be throwing four thousand and five
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Speaker 9: thousand dollars or maybe more with inflation now per family
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Speaker 9: that's about to have a child to encourage them to
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Speaker 9: do so.
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Speaker 6: I'm not quite sure.
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Speaker 9: Maybe the better solution, I don't know, call me crazy,
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Speaker 9: would be to try and work overall on the cost
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Speaker 9: of living crisis so everyone feels more confident if they're
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Speaker 9: thinking about having a family, and it benefits everyone, not
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Speaker 9: just for people about start a family, but people who
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Speaker 9: have families and people whose kids and grandkids are grown up.
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Speaker 6: Crazy idea, but there you go.
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Speaker 2: I always like it when people get to keep more
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Speaker 2: of their money than hand it over to the government
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Speaker 2: and get a little bit back as some sort of
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Speaker 2: a tax break or baby bonus.
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Speaker 6: Let's see if that can happen.
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Speaker 2: Parliament's in the winter break, of course, but there's talk
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Speaker 2: the PM is mulling over a front bench shake up
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Speaker 2: in coming days. Most of the speculation, of course, centering
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Speaker 2: around a possible retirement for Linda Bernie maybe even Mark drefus.
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Speaker 2: He's getting close to seventy employment Minister Brendan O'Connor. But
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Speaker 2: there's also a lot of pressure John to drop Andrew
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Speaker 2: Giles and Clara O'Neil. There's a poll out the latest
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Speaker 2: AAFR Freshwater poll, it's got the coalition ahead now on
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Speaker 2: two party preferred look. In my view, he's got to
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Speaker 2: get rid of the dead wood, but he's also got
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Speaker 2: to give the new ministers enough time to get across
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Speaker 2: portfolios before Parliament returns next month. So if he's going
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Speaker 2: to do it, he'll do it now, you.
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Speaker 10: Would think so. I mean, perhaps that's what he's doing
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Speaker 10: while Richard Miles is running the country, working through with
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Speaker 10: the various factions who they want to see put into
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Speaker 10: new positions within his cabinet. Certainly Linda Burnie seems like
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Speaker 10: she has to go. She's been, unfortunately an abject failure.
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Speaker 10: And I also find it. You know, I had high
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Speaker 10: hopes for Clara O'Neil. I thought she would be a
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Speaker 10: rising star, but it hasn't turned out that way. Mister
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Speaker 10: Giles has put himself out of a job, and so
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Speaker 10: these do create openings and opportunities for renewal. I suppose
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Speaker 10: the Prime Minister will need to find a balance between
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Speaker 10: getting rid of enough of the dead wood so as
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Speaker 10: to create renewal and a stronger team heading into the
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Speaker 10: next election, and not getting rid of so much that
21:51
Speaker 10: it looks like it's panic stations. That's the balance he
21:55
Speaker 10: needs to strike. Get rid of those who need to go,
21:58
Speaker 10: but not so many that people think will The whole
22:00
Speaker 10: team was incompetent in the first place.
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Speaker 6: We will watch this closely.
22:05
Speaker 2: As I said, I think Gama's two weeks or three
22:08
Speaker 2: weeks away the Indigenous Festival, and I think that would
22:11
Speaker 2: be the timing for Linda Birnie.
22:12
Speaker 6: But we'll see.
22:13
Speaker 2: Thank you to you both Caroline and John after the break.
22:16
Speaker 2: It'll come as no surprise at high immigration is out
22:19
Speaker 2: of favor with the majority of Australians. It's not that
22:22
Speaker 2: we don't welcome your arrivals. We simply want a rate
22:24
Speaker 2: of intake. It doesn't reduce the standard of living for
22:27
Speaker 2: those already here. Labour doesn't have a plan, but the
22:31
Speaker 2: Shadow Minister's coming up. Let's see what the Liberals have
22:33
Speaker 2: to say. Plus, wind power simply isn't cutting it as
22:36
Speaker 2: power prices Spike will get into that.
22:39
Speaker 6: In a moment.
22:44
Speaker 2: Welcome backfield that comes so much for Labours lie that
22:47
Speaker 2: renewables are cheap. It's holds how power prices spike spelling
22:51
Speaker 2: more power, Bill Pain the first of new poll for
22:55
Speaker 2: the Australia and has revealed support for high immigration has
22:58
Speaker 2: almost halved over the past decade to a paltry thirteen percent. Meanwhile,
23:03
Speaker 2: nearly fifty percent of Australians actually want to see fewer
23:07
Speaker 2: immigrants enter Australia. For more on this, let's bring in
23:10
Speaker 2: the shadow Immigration Minister Dan Tian Well.
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Speaker 6: Dan as I said.
23:13
Speaker 2: Before the break, it's not that we're not welcoming, but
23:16
Speaker 2: this is what happens when immigration gets out of control
23:19
Speaker 2: and the government's got no plan.
23:22
Speaker 6: That's the problem.
23:24
Speaker 11: That is the problem.
23:25
Speaker 12: Pleader, You're absolutely right, and the government doesn't.
23:28
Speaker 11: Have a plan.
23:29
Speaker 12: And we've been warning about this now for two years.
23:32
Speaker 12: As you know, they've nearly brought in a million people
23:36
Speaker 12: in two years, in the middle of a housing crisis,
23:40
Speaker 12: in the middle of a rental crisis, in the middle
23:43
Speaker 12: of a cost of living crisis, and that lack of
23:46
Speaker 12: a plan is why people are just saying enough is enough.
23:51
Speaker 11: But yet the government doesn't seem to be getting the message.
23:54
Speaker 11: The latest data we have for this calendar year from
23:57
Speaker 11: January through to May for arrivals and departures.
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Speaker 12: Shows there are more people coming than ever have before
24:06
Speaker 12: in our history. So the first five months on departure
24:10
Speaker 12: and a rival starter has been the highest amount of
24:13
Speaker 12: arrivals where I've ever seen in the first five months
24:15
Speaker 12: of the calendar year.
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Speaker 11: So the government just doesn't seem to be getting the message.
24:23
Speaker 2: And of course they're going to say whatever people want
24:25
Speaker 2: them to say. And here leading into the election and
24:28
Speaker 2: the numbers, you're right, they are not matching the government's rhetoric.
24:32
Speaker 2: But they'll mouth all the words to get through the
24:34
Speaker 2: campaign and they'll get the other side of the campaign.
24:37
Speaker 2: Let's say they're re elected, they'll do whatever they like
24:40
Speaker 2: that they will keep bringing in record numbers of people
24:43
Speaker 2: because otherwise they've got no budget strategy.
24:48
Speaker 11: That's absolutely right. And for this financial year they said
24:53
Speaker 11: that the net.
24:54
Speaker 12: Overseas migration rate would be three hundred and ninety five thousand, Well,
24:58
Speaker 12: we already know that it is going to be probably
25:02
Speaker 12: fifty thousand more than that, and then the following year
25:06
Speaker 12: they've said.
25:07
Speaker 11: They're going to bring it back down to two hundred
25:09
Speaker 11: and sixty thousand. Well, there is no way known on
25:12
Speaker 11: the projections that we're seen at the moment that that
25:15
Speaker 11: is going to occur. And you have to remember this
25:18
Speaker 11: is at a time when they aren't helping to build housing.
25:22
Speaker 11: All these government housing programs have not yet added one
25:26
Speaker 11: additional house to our housing stop. So it is a
25:31
Speaker 11: complete catastrophe.
25:32
Speaker 12: The minister, as you know, has the Prime Minister's sword
25:38
Speaker 12: hanging over his head because he seems it's up.
25:41
Speaker 11: He's up for the job. I all Australians are hoping
25:44
Speaker 11: that there will be suburvement there. So we've had a
25:47
Speaker 11: laned up minister now for three or four months, and
25:50
Speaker 11: meanwhile the numbers just keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger.
25:57
Speaker 2: Well help me out with this because we've also got
26:00
Speaker 2: the Greens demanding that we take even more people out
26:03
Speaker 2: of gaza. I've been reporting under the story about Palestine
26:07
Speaker 2: in Authority scholarships paid for by Australia but given to
26:12
Speaker 2: Palestin in authority workers over.
26:14
Speaker 6: The past few days.
26:15
Speaker 2: I mean, how confident are you that the government's doing
26:18
Speaker 2: what it should in terms of security checks?
26:22
Speaker 11: Not confident at all.
26:24
Speaker 12: Sadly, we know from Senate estimates that some of the
26:28
Speaker 12: security checks were taking less than twenty four hours. Now
26:32
Speaker 12: you cannot do proper security checks in that time. And
26:37
Speaker 12: once again Minister Jiles has been completely absent in answering
26:42
Speaker 12: questions about how far these security checks were, whether the
26:46
Speaker 12: normal process was followed or not. We have heard nothing
26:50
Speaker 12: on this and as your report, and now we find
26:54
Speaker 12: out about these scholarships. Now, those scholarships are meant to
26:58
Speaker 12: be for the Indo Pacific region. They're meant to be
27:02
Speaker 12: about our national interests, and all of a sudden, petty
27:05
Speaker 12: Wong drops out there that we're now giving them to
27:09
Speaker 12: the Palestinian authority. I mean, where's the explanation as to
27:13
Speaker 12: how that is now in the national interests. And one
27:16
Speaker 12: of the alarming things is they seem to have dropped
27:19
Speaker 12: India of those scholarships.
27:21
Speaker 11: Now.
27:22
Speaker 12: Now, as you know, as a long term strategic partner,
27:26
Speaker 12: India is going to be vital for stability in the
27:28
Speaker 12: Indo Pacific.
27:29
Speaker 11: So the government it's all about short term political needs,
27:35
Speaker 11: not the long term national interests of this country.
27:38
Speaker 12: And that is why we are heading backwards in such
27:41
Speaker 12: a rate under the Aldermesi Labor government.
27:46
Speaker 2: I was dismayed also to say that Save the Children
27:48
Speaker 2: is launching a High court appeal, are giving the federal
27:52
Speaker 2: governors obliged to repatriate the remaining Islamic state women. I
27:57
Speaker 2: know they're called brides, but these women, many of we're
28:00
Speaker 2: involved in terrors and activity and children too from a
28:03
Speaker 2: Syrian camp. I mean, they have been refused entry into Australia.
28:09
Speaker 6: What's this costing taxpayers?
28:12
Speaker 12: Well, once again, whoever replaces Immigration Minister Andrew Giles is
28:18
Speaker 12: going to have one hell of a mess to clean up,
28:22
Speaker 12: because everywhere you look, where this minister is touched, there
28:26
Speaker 12: is now a complete mess. Now you'll remember early on
28:31
Speaker 12: that the government brought back the Isis brides. They did
28:34
Speaker 12: it very quietly, but of course the media found out,
28:39
Speaker 12: the community found out, and we asked.
28:41
Speaker 11: Questions about it.
28:42
Speaker 12: Now it seems that they've stopped bringing these Isis brides back.
28:47
Speaker 11: Of course we haven't heard.
28:49
Speaker 12: Or or they haven't said anything about this, but we've
28:51
Speaker 12: seen reports in the paper about four or five weeks
28:54
Speaker 12: ago that they ditched the previous policy which was to
28:58
Speaker 12: bring them back. And now you have these legal challenges.
29:02
Speaker 12: So you have that on top of what the minister
29:05
Speaker 12: did with Ministerial Direction ninety nine and then his new
29:09
Speaker 12: Ministerial Direction, which we think is still going to have
29:12
Speaker 12: more issues associated.
29:14
Speaker 11: With it as well.
29:14
Speaker 12: We've got the nzyq cohort of one hundred and fifty
29:19
Speaker 12: two hardened criminals now one hundred and sixty and the
29:23
Speaker 12: monitoring of them seems to be ad hoc at best.
29:27
Speaker 12: Everywhere you look, there's just a mess created by this.
29:30
Speaker 11: Minister, and add this to that mess. And I tell you,
29:34
Speaker 11: I don't know.
29:35
Speaker 12: Who in the Labor Party will have the capabilities to
29:38
Speaker 12: clean up after this.
29:40
Speaker 11: Minister, because they're going to need one hell of a
29:41
Speaker 11: vacuum cleaner to do it.
29:46
Speaker 6: Dan Tan, You're not wrong. Thank you for your time.
29:49
Speaker 2: You can see there are those questions in relation to
29:51
Speaker 2: visas in national security. Why it was an absolute travesty
29:56
Speaker 2: that the head of our domestic intelligence agency, this is Asy,
30:00
Speaker 2: was taken out of the room from the National Security
30:03
Speaker 2: Committee of Cabinet, not in the room, not even there
30:06
Speaker 2: to give advice. We've got terror threats in this country,
30:09
Speaker 2: We've got genuine security concerns, and he is not even present.
30:14
Speaker 6: Let's go back to the energy.
30:15
Speaker 2: Best proof today from the regulator that renewables are simply
30:18
Speaker 2: not cutting it. In the last quarter, the cost of
30:20
Speaker 2: power jump over twenty percent, in part due to cold outages,
30:25
Speaker 2: but the big contributor was the drought in wind generation.
30:29
Speaker 2: In fact, in the April to June period, wind fell
30:32
Speaker 2: to just twelve percent, its lowest share of the mix
30:36
Speaker 2: since twenty twenty one. And you know what fueled the
30:38
Speaker 2: void left by wind, Well, it was gas. Gas was
30:42
Speaker 2: up seventy percent in usage terms of the previous quarter. Interesting,
30:46
Speaker 2: isn't it? Joining me Our Environment editor at The Australian,
30:49
Speaker 2: Graham Lloyd Well, I want to say to both of us, well,
30:53
Speaker 2: if only they listened to us months and months and
30:56
Speaker 2: months ago, we might have been able to head this off.
31:00
Speaker 2: I Gas is doing the heavy lifting. Wind generation is
31:03
Speaker 2: failing us. We've got a government that wants to be
31:07
Speaker 2: eighty two percent renewables in just six years' time. Graham,
31:12
Speaker 2: the system doesn't work now, how on earth is it
31:16
Speaker 2: going to work at that sort of ratio.
31:21
Speaker 13: Good evening, Peter Well. The striking feature of the reporters
31:24
Speaker 13: you noted was the fact that for all the hundreds
31:27
Speaker 13: of millions of dollars that have been spent on wind
31:30
Speaker 13: generation over the past years, the production of electricity from
31:36
Speaker 13: wind power fell to its lowest level since twenty and
31:40
Speaker 13: seventeen in the quarter. So what this shows is that
31:44
Speaker 13: a wind drought will cover a large area and wind
31:49
Speaker 13: electricity just won't be produced anywhere, So the authority said
31:54
Speaker 13: that gas is the magic ingredient to firm things up
31:58
Speaker 13: and keep them going. You would hope that the government
32:01
Speaker 13: is starting to get the message. They really or issued
32:05
Speaker 13: some offshore gas exploration licenses this week. That's only part
32:10
Speaker 13: of the solution. At the same time, the Greens have
32:13
Speaker 13: thrown up the balloon and saying they want to shut
32:16
Speaker 13: the gas industry we've got now and make it a
32:20
Speaker 13: key competition against labor and the coming election. So there's
32:24
Speaker 13: a lot of heavy work to do, but the facts
32:26
Speaker 13: are on the ground. Wind power can fall short and
32:29
Speaker 13: gas is desperately needed.
32:34
Speaker 2: In those statistics, there's two issues with wind. It's not
32:37
Speaker 2: just that the current farms there haven't got enough wind
32:41
Speaker 2: in the air to turn the turbines, but also that
32:43
Speaker 2: new wind farms are not coming online. We only had
32:46
Speaker 2: one in that period come on line from South Australia. Rightly,
32:49
Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of community oppositions to these
32:52
Speaker 2: wind farms. But also that uptick in coal Now, that's
32:55
Speaker 2: because we're obviously keeping a riring going. But what happens
32:59
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty seven when we haven't got errari and
33:02
Speaker 2: given that Cole's sixty percent of our grid, when coal
33:06
Speaker 2: really starts to retire, what happens.
33:08
Speaker 13: Then, well, we're certainly eking things out with coal, and
33:14
Speaker 13: you're right, it is the main stay of the electricity
33:18
Speaker 13: supply we have at the moment. So it's not a
33:21
Speaker 13: simple point of replacing this with renewables and then a
33:25
Speaker 13: bit of gas. It's actually a lot of gas to
33:28
Speaker 13: underpin things because it's going to have to replace a
33:31
Speaker 13: lot of the work that's being done by coal. And
33:34
Speaker 13: there's certainly no indication that the size of the challenge
33:39
Speaker 13: has really been understood, certainly not in a public sense.
33:45
Speaker 2: We don't have a gas shortage issue in this country though,
33:50
Speaker 2: we just have a gas supply issue. I mean, there's
33:52
Speaker 2: plenty of gas in the ground, but we've had successive
33:55
Speaker 2: state governments in federal governments hold back the development of gas.
33:58
Speaker 6: That's the problem.
34:01
Speaker 13: Certainly, Victoria is running down the reserves that it's relied
34:06
Speaker 13: upon for a long period of time and it's been
34:08
Speaker 13: absolutely against opening up any new resources. The same with
34:13
Speaker 13: New South Wales, where there's been a long running dispute
34:16
Speaker 13: over gas supplies in the Pillager and companies have sunk
34:22
Speaker 13: many millions of dollars into proving these things up, but
34:26
Speaker 13: there's a regulatory roadblock that stops anything from happening.
34:32
Speaker 6: Right.
34:32
Speaker 2: I made a point before about a lack of wind generation.
34:37
Speaker 2: There's more trouble for renewables though. We learned today a
34:39
Speaker 2: Spanish contractor hired to build most of the two point
34:43
Speaker 2: three billion dollar pound cable it's running between South Australia
34:46
Speaker 2: and New South Wales. They're expected to completely walk away
34:49
Speaker 2: from this project.
34:51
Speaker 6: Now.
34:51
Speaker 2: This is the first major transmission project to being built
34:54
Speaker 2: on a wave of high voltage power lines. This doesn't
34:58
Speaker 2: bode well of the whole energy transition. I mean, this
35:01
Speaker 2: is everything that Chris Bowen is pinning his net zero
35:06
Speaker 2: future on. If we can't transmit the power, we haven't
35:11
Speaker 2: got power.
35:14
Speaker 13: No, And this is emblemic of the problems. More generally,
35:18
Speaker 13: the Spanish company that's involved was a junior partner in
35:22
Speaker 13: the project with Cloff, which was the main contractor on
35:25
Speaker 13: Snowy two point zero. Cloff went broke, they lost their
35:30
Speaker 13: shirt on the Snowy project. They've pulled out of this
35:33
Speaker 13: one as a consequence, and the junior partner has basically
35:37
Speaker 13: been left saying it's unable technically to complete it, so
35:41
Speaker 13: it wants to walk away. It leaves an enormous mess
35:44
Speaker 13: for other companies who want to pick it up, the
35:47
Speaker 13: liability for the bit that's already been built. But it
35:51
Speaker 13: goes to show that these problems are being faced on
35:54
Speaker 13: all these major projects and without them, the energy system
35:59
Speaker 13: is running perilously.
36:00
Speaker 6: Like yeah, it's a sorry tale.
36:06
Speaker 2: And the government deliberately has this as complex as it is.
36:09
Speaker 2: You have to sort of pick up all the stories
36:10
Speaker 2: and draw a picture to bring it all together because
36:13
Speaker 2: they don't want Australians to know that this is a
36:16
Speaker 2: cheap renewables line is a lie Graham, Lloyd, thank you
36:20
Speaker 2: all right after the break. A majority of Australians think
36:22
Speaker 2: we're a racist country, so says a new survey out
36:25
Speaker 2: today highlighting just how good the left have been with
36:28
Speaker 2: indoctrination bus the push to regulate the stale of cannabis
36:32
Speaker 2: in Australia. Have a look at what's happening in the
36:34
Speaker 2: United States and you'll know this is a bad.
36:42
Speaker 6: Welcome back.
36:42
Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, cal Richard's coming up at first my panel.
36:45
Speaker 6: Let's bring them in.
36:46
Speaker 2: Shadow Environment Minister Jonathan Dunham and Liberal Senator for Queensland
36:50
Speaker 2: James McGrath. Gentlemen, Senators squared, how are you good to
36:54
Speaker 2: have you?
36:54
Speaker 6: As always?
36:55
Speaker 2: Let's start with the Needs of the Nation poll for
36:57
Speaker 2: the Australia and which found seventy two per cent of
37:00
Speaker 2: us believe the nation is at least a little bit racist.
37:04
Speaker 2: The survey also found more than fifty percent of people
37:07
Speaker 2: aged eighteen to thirty five believe the government should consider
37:11
Speaker 2: a treaty with Indigenous Australians. However, support for a treaty
37:15
Speaker 2: declines pretty sharply with age, to less than thirty percent
37:18
Speaker 2: support for those of us over the age of fifty.
37:21
Speaker 2: We'll thank you of for the fifty year olds in
37:23
Speaker 2: the mix, I've got to say treaty support the view
37:26
Speaker 2: of young people now. Who's surprised here? Given our education
37:31
Speaker 2: system indoctrinates young Australians. It doesn't educate young Australians. James,
37:37
Speaker 2: what do you make of this?
37:39
Speaker 7: Let's be blunt. Australians are not racist. Australia is not
37:43
Speaker 7: a racist country. John O, like myself, will spend a
37:46
Speaker 7: lot of time on the road. Australians are the most generous, boisterous,
37:49
Speaker 7: blunt people on the earth. They don't care what color
37:53
Speaker 7: you are, where you've come from, as long as yet
37:55
Speaker 7: you're a good person and you love this country. The
37:57
Speaker 7: issue is our education system, where students are being taught
38:01
Speaker 7: that anything that happened before seventeen eighty eight was brilliant
38:04
Speaker 7: and anything that happened after seventeen eighty eight is terrible,
38:08
Speaker 7: and that is wrong. We should be teaching our young
38:10
Speaker 7: kids pride in the flag, pride in the country, and
38:13
Speaker 7: pride in the freedom that brings us together. But most importantly,
38:17
Speaker 7: just acknowledge the fact we are a pretty good country,
38:20
Speaker 7: if not the best country in the world. But we
38:23
Speaker 7: do need to fix up our education system and stop
38:25
Speaker 7: the indoctrination of young people.
38:30
Speaker 2: What hope have we got though, Jonathan Dunny? And when
38:32
Speaker 2: you've got the Greens who won't stand behind the Australian flag,
38:36
Speaker 2: they've got to just have the Aboriginal and the Torres
38:38
Speaker 2: straight flags only. And you've got a prime minister. And
38:41
Speaker 2: I've seen this overseas. I was in our embassy in
38:43
Speaker 2: Rome not so long ago, and we've got the three
38:46
Speaker 2: flags over there. We've got acknowledgment of country on every
38:49
Speaker 2: little bit of paper, and you've got, as I said,
38:52
Speaker 2: a Prime minister who can't stand up without acknowledging the
38:56
Speaker 2: crimes of humanity against Aboriginal people. And won't us take
39:00
Speaker 2: pride in our nation?
39:03
Speaker 1: Frankly it is so disappointing. Is a very large statement
39:07
Speaker 1: to make. But when you think about the fact that
39:10
Speaker 1: our young people, all of us across society are told
39:13
Speaker 1: that we ought to be ashamed of our own racial
39:16
Speaker 1: background and therefore we are racist because for the most
39:19
Speaker 1: part we are white, and it is part and parcel
39:22
Speaker 1: we've been white that you are racist.
39:24
Speaker 11: It is now something that is an accepted normal. I
39:26
Speaker 11: think that is outrageous.
39:27
Speaker 1: And when you have not only schools, but universities, the
39:32
Speaker 1: corporate elites and leaders in the political class telling us
39:35
Speaker 1: that's how we should think, we have no hope And
39:38
Speaker 1: what is it going to be like when we actually
39:40
Speaker 1: have to pick up the culteles and defend our country.
39:43
Speaker 1: If we're ashamed of who we are, if we're ashamed
39:45
Speaker 1: of our flag, if we're ashamed of our national anthem,
39:48
Speaker 1: who's going to fight for our country when the enemy
39:51
Speaker 1: comes knocking.
39:52
Speaker 11: That's my real concern and that's.
39:53
Speaker 1: Why James is dead right it starts with education and
39:56
Speaker 1: starts with young people, and we have to start tomorrow.
40:00
Speaker 2: You're right to make the point about our country and
40:02
Speaker 2: defense because the head of the army in the United Kingdom,
40:06
Speaker 2: this is the uniformed head, was out there today saying
40:09
Speaker 2: that he is telling his servicemen and women to prepare
40:13
Speaker 2: for war within three years and we can't even stand
40:18
Speaker 2: by our flag. Let's go up to your way up
40:20
Speaker 2: to Queensland. The premier there, Stephen Miles, is refusing to
40:23
Speaker 2: disclose how much he wasted to have two vip jets
40:28
Speaker 2: fly politician him and the head of police to the
40:32
Speaker 2: same venue for the same crime tour back in April.
40:36
Speaker 2: And also these reports that the original one billion dollar
40:39
Speaker 2: figure put on the cost of rebuilding the gather for
40:42
Speaker 2: the Olympic Games in Brisbane wasn't based on a shred
40:47
Speaker 2: of business analysis, numerical analysis, government analysis. Come on, James,
40:52
Speaker 2: what's going on in Queensland.
40:54
Speaker 7: It's ninety three days until the state election. Ninety three
40:58
Speaker 7: days to get rid of this tied in their labor government.
41:01
Speaker 7: We've got a premier who is treating taxpayers money as
41:04
Speaker 7: if it is his own money. David Chruso fully yesterday
41:07
Speaker 7: and Estimates and Jared Blader day in Estimates were prosecuting
41:10
Speaker 7: this case and Miles was just so arrogant, just refusing
41:16
Speaker 7: to answer pretty basic questions. And the reason, by the way,
41:19
Speaker 7: he took two jets to Townsville to steal a line
41:21
Speaker 7: from deaf Precklington is just in case one of them
41:23
Speaker 7: got stolen. Then we've got the debarkle of the Olympics
41:27
Speaker 7: where there's no business plans. They've got these things called
41:31
Speaker 7: project verification reports and that is giblidok for a bunch
41:35
Speaker 7: of bureaucrats are signing off on something. The Premier may
41:39
Speaker 7: have said. The Olympics is going to become an embarrassment
41:42
Speaker 7: Under Labor, the business cases just don't exist and you
41:46
Speaker 7: talk about the costings. Now we're looking at the old
41:49
Speaker 7: Q two stadium being rebuilt. They're out near Griffith University.
41:53
Speaker 7: No one's going to go there. It's just embarrassment and
41:57
Speaker 7: Queensland we need to get rid of this labor government
41:59
Speaker 7: sooner or rather later.
42:02
Speaker 6: Well, let's go to the US.
42:04
Speaker 2: We've watched a pretty extraordinary week there in US politics.
42:07
Speaker 2: Who had that massive shift now in the vote with
42:10
Speaker 2: Biden dropping out appolling out today says Kamala Harris is
42:14
Speaker 2: leading Donald Trump forty four forty two percent. This is
42:18
Speaker 2: an router's IPSOS poll. She's also out looking for a
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Speaker 2: young white male politician as her running mate. Well, gentlemen,
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Speaker 2: you both fit that Bill you might cross over the
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Speaker 2: United States.
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Speaker 6: Maybe, But John o'daniam.
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Speaker 2: She has been called quote and I'll say this dumb
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Speaker 2: as a rock. But I think it'd be a mistake
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Speaker 2: to underestimate her. She'll have most of the media on
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Speaker 2: her side and a lot will want to make history
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Speaker 2: with their first woman president.
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Speaker 6: How do you think she'll go.
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Speaker 11: Well, I think you're right.
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Speaker 1: It is a grave mistake to underestimate your opponent or
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Speaker 1: any contender in any race.
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Speaker 11: Because that's the beginning of losing streak.
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Speaker 1: The fact is, as you've identified the media class the
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Speaker 1: fourth of state trying to set up a zeitgeist, and
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Speaker 1: America is just like Australia, where people will back the winner,
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Speaker 1: and if it looks like the tide's going in the
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Speaker 1: Democrats direction, then people will probably jump on board there.
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Speaker 1: But the reality is Kamala Harris has not had the
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Speaker 1: blow tour to public scrutiny properly applied. She can stand
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Speaker 1: up at these rallies and run the lines she's running
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Speaker 1: around Donald Trump being a predator and the rest of it.
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Speaker 1: But when she has to give an account for the
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Speaker 1: work and the outcomes of the administration, she's been a
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Speaker 1: part of what her plan is to make America a
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Speaker 1: better place. I think she's going to come crumbling down,
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Speaker 1: and I think Americans who are doing it tough are
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Speaker 1: going to send a message into the ballot box. But
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Speaker 1: I hope Donald Trump does the work and doesn't underestimate Harris.
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Speaker 6: Well.
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Speaker 2: I think she is pretty weak. I think she's done
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Speaker 2: as a rock. I have to say that was in
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Speaker 2: my statement, but I accord with it, James. The challenge
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Speaker 2: is most Americans don't know anything about her, and she
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Speaker 2: only has to be credible for four or five months
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Speaker 2: of a campaign. She's really at the tail end. She's
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Speaker 2: been under no pressure to perform in a primary. She
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Speaker 2: hasn't been exposed. Yes, she's got a shocking record on
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Speaker 2: the borders, but I mean it's up to the Republicans
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Speaker 2: now to prosecute that. They would be hoping she can
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Speaker 2: limp over the line. I think her base will turn
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Speaker 2: out now in part.
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Speaker 6: In part.
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Speaker 2: I think she's got a problem with the middle part
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Speaker 2: of America. But you know you're a campaigner, how do
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Speaker 2: you think she'll go?
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Speaker 7: She will certainly energize her base. The danger for the
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Speaker 7: Republicans is is that that base energization. But also if
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Speaker 7: they do not start to frame her, they need to
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Speaker 7: connect her to every Biden policy over the last three
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Speaker 7: and a half years and point out that she was
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Speaker 7: there when these bad decisions were being made. Because if
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Speaker 7: they don't do that, she's going to present herself as
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Speaker 7: someone as fresh as a daisy, and that is very
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Speaker 7: dangerous for America. The big danger for us is that
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Speaker 7: while this brilliant democracy show is going on there, we've
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Speaker 7: got the Middle East, we've got Russia, we've got China
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Speaker 7: all starting to misbehave, and so we need someone strong
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Speaker 7: in the White House. And I don't think she's up
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Speaker 7: to the job.
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Speaker 2: We'll see you what we gentlemen, Thank you, John om
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Speaker 2: and Senator James McGrath.
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Speaker 6: After great kel Richard's plenty of words to get through.
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Speaker 6: We'll see you.
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Speaker 2: The welcome back joining me now he does every Wednesday.
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Speaker 2: My good friend, the broadcaster and word smith Kel Richards kel,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to start with a bit of a CFMU
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Speaker 2: flavor tonight. Noel, one of the viewers says, cfmu are
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Speaker 2: being described as thugs. Where does that word come from?
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Speaker 8: It comes from India. There was a thing called the
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Speaker 8: Society of Thugs, from an old Sanskrit word which meant
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Speaker 8: deceptive and violent. They used to trap travelers by, you know,
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Speaker 8: kin in deception and then murder them suddenly and take
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Speaker 8: everything they own. I think we've heard about that kind
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Speaker 8: of thing before. The British almost stamped them out in
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Speaker 8: the eighteen thirties. But because of what they did and
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Speaker 8: who they were, their name has now applied to anyone
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Speaker 8: who shows the same characteristics cunning, deception and violence that
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Speaker 8: makes you a thug.
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Speaker 2: So it's a word mainly from England and obviously transferred
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Speaker 2: into our language more so than used in America.
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Speaker 8: Yes, because because of Anglo Indian words, because India was
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Speaker 8: part of the Empire for such a long time, there's
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Speaker 8: a huge number of words which you've got that kind
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Speaker 8: of Hindi background, Sanskrit background that came over into English
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Speaker 8: when old British Army officers came back from their time
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Speaker 8: of service in India, and this is one of them.
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Speaker 8: Collectively they were known as the thug ee with the
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Speaker 8: double G in a double e. But individually they are
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Speaker 8: thugs and they still are thugs.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's stay with the unions. We'll go with
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Speaker 2: croke as in crooked union argues that a lot. It's
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Speaker 2: one of the adjectives that get past the lawyers here
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Speaker 2: at sky.
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Speaker 6: But crooked, where's that come from?
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Speaker 8: Oh, it's very very old, back to the end of
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Speaker 8: the days when the Anglo Saxons were speaking Old English
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Speaker 8: twelve hundreds, it came in to mean bent out of shape,
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Speaker 8: and then a lot later in the mid eighteen hundreds
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Speaker 8: it came to mean dishonest, because the assumption was that
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Speaker 8: the proper shape for human beings was to be honest,
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Speaker 8: so if they were dishonest, they were bent out of shape.
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Speaker 8: When you apply it to unions, the proper shape for
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Speaker 8: a union is to have voluntary membership. People belong because
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Speaker 8: they choose to belong, and then they negotiate on behalf
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Speaker 8: of those people. Now, if they, instead of having voluntary membership,
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Speaker 8: have compulsory membership, and instead of negotiating, engage in deception,
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Speaker 8: manipulation and violence, and threats. Then it is a union
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Speaker 8: bent out of shape.
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Speaker 2: It is crooked, beautiful col another one a different theme,
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Speaker 2: but we'll move on. Sally wants to know where airhead
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Speaker 2: comes from.
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Speaker 8: Ah, good story behind this. It's really old. Goes back
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Speaker 8: to eighteen seventeen, and originally an airhead was a shaft
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Speaker 8: in a mine that brought air to the miners working
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Speaker 8: down below. You know, the top of any shaft in
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Speaker 8: a mine is called its head. So they took about
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Speaker 8: the mine hit and stuff like that, and the one
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Speaker 8: that brought the air down the top of that was
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Speaker 8: the airhead. What happened was so that was around for
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Speaker 8: a long time. In nineteen seventy one, a journalist working
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Speaker 8: in North Carolina came across this old mining expression and
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Speaker 8: he thought, what a good word to apply to a
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Speaker 8: scatter brain, because it implies that between one ear and
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Speaker 8: the other ear is nothing but air. So he applied
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Speaker 8: in a story in a newspaper called The Daily Times
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Speaker 8: in Burlington, North Carolina, in August nineteen seventy one. Clever journalist,
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Speaker 8: and when he applied the airhead from the mining industry
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Speaker 8: to the idiots, it caught on and we've used it ever.
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Speaker 6: Since brass razou. Peter wants to know where that one
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Speaker 6: comes from.
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Speaker 8: There's never been a real coin called a razoo. It's
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Speaker 8: always been an imaginary coin of very little or no value.
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Speaker 8: But I think it's World War One slang from it's
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Speaker 8: an Australian expression of people outside Australia often puzzled by this,
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Speaker 8: what do you mean brass orrazu? But I think it
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Speaker 8: was coined by Ossie diggers in the trenches in France
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Speaker 8: in the First World Wards first recorded nineteen nineteen, So
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Speaker 8: I think this is likely. And my guess is that
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Speaker 8: razu was what the ANZACs, in their jocular whimsical way,
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Speaker 8: nicknamed the Sioux, which was the smallest French coin at
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Speaker 8: the time.
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Speaker 2: Ah, yes, I think I have heard this, Cal I
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Speaker 2: think you're spot on, yep.
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Speaker 8: So I think that's where it comes from. A lot
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Speaker 8: of clever Ossie inventions from World War One.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, I got to go see you next week.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for coming here tonight. I'm not with you
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Speaker 2: tomorrow night. I'll be get an event to celebrate the
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Speaker 2: sixtieth anniversary of the Australian. The wonderful Steve Price though, well,
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Speaker 2: keep you count me I'll see you on Monday at six.
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Speaker 6: Here's the Bobby portm