Latest / The SmallBizChat with Melinda Emerson / Building an Iconic Brand with Brandi Mitchell
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- 0:00And so for a lot of us, especially people that are hard workers, we're so busy in the work
- 0:05that we're like, oh, I don't want to shine.
- 0:07I'm just busy.
- 0:08I just wanna do the work, but you don't realize that your voice is the exact voice that needs
- 0:13to come forward.
- 0:14Like, we need your voice.
- 0:16We need your expertise, your sensibility.
- 0:19We don't need the copy and pasters.
- 0:21We need the people.
- 0:23Who are legitimately, they have skin in the game, and they are really here on a mission to
- 0:29do exactly what they said that they're gonna
- 0:31do.
- 0:333210 ignition.
- 0:36Lift off Ending small business failure.
- 0:43Welcome to the small biz chat podcast with the number one small business spurt, Melinda
- 0:49Emerson.
- 0:50Melinda's goal is to end small business failure, and she'll give you the information
- 0:54you need to succeed and live the life you dream of.
- 0:58Now here's your host, the small biz chat lady herself, Melinda Emerson.
- 1:05Hi, everyone.
- 1:06I'm Melinda Emerson, the small biz lady.
- 1:08America's number one small business expert, and I'm excited to welcome you to another edition
- 1:14of the small biz chat podcast.
- 1:17We have an amazing show in store for you today.
- 1:20And if you wanna know how to build an iconic brand.
- 1:25I have the brand producer in the house, and she is gonna give us her insights and system on how
- 1:32to go about building an iconic brand if you are an expert.
- 1:37And, you know, a lot of people throw around this term branding, but we are gonna talk about
- 1:42If you are an expert, if you are a coach and you want to build a powerful brand, we're gonna
- 1:48talk about exactly how to do that.
- 1:51Now here on the small bizstep podcast, our mission is to end small business failure.
- 1:57We are a peer to peer mentorship And we bring in expert from different angles to give you
- 2:03advice.
- 2:03And the goal is always to help you take your business to the next level.
- 2:09Now the small biz chat podcast can be seen on my small biz lady Facebook page and it can also
- 2:15be seen on my small business lady YouTube channel.
- 2:18So if you're watching us, please leave a comment please subscribe to my channel and, of
- 2:24course, share it with others so that other people can get the benefit of all of this
- 2:29expertise that right now you do not have to pay for.
- 2:33So with that, I am so excited to introduce today's guest Her name is Brandy Mitchell, and
- 2:39she is known as the brand producer for her creative ability to fuse entertainment, getting
- 2:45inspiration and storytelling into a bankable brand as president of Carol's media She is the
- 2:53secret sauce that the nation's top 2 percent of experts, entrepreneurs, consultants, and
- 2:57coaches choose when they're looking to build an iconic brand up level their positioning and
- 3:03build powerful packaging that elevates their visibility.
- 3:07She is the founder of the producer owned brand method a four time author and filmmaker.
- 3:12For more information, you can head over to brandymitchall.com.
- 3:17Brandy, welcome to the small business chat podcast.
- 3:21Thank you for having me.
- 3:23Oh my gosh.
- 3:23I've known you for forever, but other people don't know you.
- 3:26So I wanna hear your backstory.
- 3:30How did you get started in business?
- 3:33You know, so I started off.
- 3:35I spent about 22 years as a celebrity makeup and hair artist, and my job was to groom and
- 3:41protect the the visual brands of, you know, the top top, actors and singers and performers.
- 3:50And I found something very interesting in that and being in that sacred space that it was so
- 3:55it was such a curated experience why we fell in love with them.
- 4:00Right?
- 4:00And so as I started progressing through, and and I started evolving, I think, as a business
- 4:07person, I started having more of a desire to, 1st of all, make my own brand.
- 4:14So I started writing books.
- 4:16And in the process of doing that, I entered into the personal development space.
- 4:21My son at the time was young, and and traveling and touring.
- 4:25And even though Beyonce was beautiful, that whole tour light did not match up with my young
- 4:32son at the time.
- 4:33So I transitioned into personal development, and I started taking people who I felt, I
- 4:38called them my everyday celebrities.
- 4:40I would take the the the nation's top speakers and and consultants, and I would make them the
- 4:45celebrity of their industry, meaning that I would help them have a very, you know, resolute
- 4:51cohesive brand.
- 4:52So it started off with the, you know, visual branding, and it morphed into, okay, well, what
- 4:58else do they need?
- 4:59Because in the process, what I was doing was I was producing photo shoots.
- 5:03I was facilitating their websites and I was doing all these things that started becoming
- 5:08this kind of 360 degree, producing experience, which is how I started being named the brand
- 5:16producer because that was the closest thing that I could say that I was doing.
- 5:20I was telling the story of these people's brands.
- 5:23And I was doing it in a way that it would uplevel them and and really give them a a very
- 5:30strong brand.
- 5:30So that's basically how the brand producer and what I do now came into being.
- 5:36So, you know, how did you narrow down that of sort of like the coaches, consultants, you
- 5:43know, subject matter expert people that wanted I mean, because this was pre Instagram, right?
- 5:48This was before everybody was friend me, follow me.
- 5:51Right?
- 5:51You know?
- 5:52So how did you decide that that that was the niche you wanted to pursue?
- 5:57It's interesting because I didn't really go out.
- 6:00I didn't seek it out.
- 6:01What happened was I wrote a book and I had self published a book.
- 6:06And I was working with talent on this show.
- 6:09They were they were all the subject matter experts.
- 6:11Right?
- 6:12And they were they were like, kinda giving me this coaching on what I had to do to really
- 6:17kinda shine seeing that I was publishing in myself.
- 6:20So I kinda made my my way into that industry.
- 6:25And when I came into that industry, interesting enough, the the title of the book was about
- 6:31blended families.
- 6:32Right?
- 6:32So it had nothing to do with beauty.
- 6:34When I got into, speaking, however, people kept going back over to the whole image and beauty.
- 6:43Like, they would not let go of it.
- 6:44And so I thought okay, why don't I just kinda combine the two worlds together?
- 6:48And I I wish I could say it was a strategic plan.
- 6:51It wasn't, but it was about I saw myself entering that world.
- 6:55And once I got into that world, I realized, like, we are the people that have to represent
- 6:59our brand 247.
- 7:01And who else would be the better, you know, customer and client than to people who have to
- 7:08support, you know, you know, represent their own businesses.
- 7:11So it kinda was this thing I really honestly fell into this world.
- 7:15And now, you know, I'm so excited because I just believe that there are so many talented
- 7:20people that sometimes get passed over because they're not packaging position properly.
- 7:26So that's my that's my that's my passion.
- 7:29And and that's and that is a beautiful segue into my next question because I wanted to ask
- 7:35you, what is the number one tip you would give to someone who is a an expert but wants to
- 7:42elevate to an iconic brand.
- 7:44What's the first thing they need to do?
- 7:46The first thing they need to do is I've always take inventory.
- 7:50I do it for myself personally, and I'll only teach what I do, Greg, And so I always take
- 7:55this inventory, and I look to see, am I playing as big as I possibly can?
- 8:01And what does that mean?
- 8:02I look.
- 8:02I do a self assessment, which usually is like a a whole whole, thing within itself.
- 8:11It's the visual and my playing and my representing myself the best at the highest
- 8:15level inside of my industry Whoever is at the top of their game in that industry, I usually
- 8:21look and do my research, and then I say, well, how do you compare inside of that?
- 8:24What's different about you?
- 8:27I think about I take inventory in stock, you know, of the client's expertise.
- 8:33Okay.
- 8:33Are you properly talking about all the things that you've done.
- 8:36Are you really showing your genius and then position them at the highest level possible?
- 8:42And that looks like I always say it's like the 2.0 version of you.
- 8:46You know, how they keep selling us different phones.
- 8:48Right?
- 8:48And they're like, yeah, get the the 2.0 version.
- 8:50I always say like, we gotta put you at the 2.0 version of you, because usually if you're
- 8:56living and you're breathing, you're serving client and clients you're growing.
- 9:00You're evolving.
- 9:01And sometimes the way that you package yourself and what you're doing is antiquated.
- 9:05So it's not for that new season.
- 9:07So positioning is all about how do I look at what I'm doing and position myself as my
- 9:12highest self?
- 9:14I love it.
- 9:14So talk about I know you have a proprietary program.
- 9:18You call it to produce your own brand method.
- 9:22What are the sort of like the steps in that?
- 9:24Is it more like what you were just talking about?
- 9:26Yeah.
- 9:27It's it's, you know, it's a it's a 6 step system.
- 9:29It spells out produce, and first one is position.
- 9:32The first thing you do is you wanna position yourself as the at the highest.
- 9:36So we just talked about that.
- 9:37The second one is realigning with what your purpose is.
- 9:41The people that you're meant to serve, the the the mission that you actually have, why you
- 9:47started your business, you know, why you decided to have this message as an expert
- 9:52realigning with that because oftentimes we get caught up in the minutia of life.
- 9:57And we sometimes disconnect from the exact reason why we're supposed to be doing what
- 10:03we're doing.
- 10:04And we can that disconnect can, get us off balance.
- 10:08We can find ourselves servicing clients sometimes that, you know, maybe they are paying
- 10:14us our worth Right?
- 10:16We're out of alignment there.
- 10:17We can find ourselves doing or saying yes to things that we probably should be saying no to
- 10:21at this point in our career.
- 10:23And so when you tap back in to your original reason and you realign and recalibrate with
- 10:30what that is, it really allows you to be able to focus only on those things that are gonna
- 10:37help to fortify what you're a reasonable your your original reason for saying yes was.
- 10:43So realign is the 2nd step.
- 10:44And then the 3rd step is 6 of them, but the 3rd step is, you're o having a overall aligned
- 10:52presence.
- 10:53And what that means is that oftentimes what I see is that people will have one area in their
- 10:58brand really, really good.
- 11:00You know, they'll do very good.
- 11:01And another part will be completely out of alignment.
- 11:05Meaning that you can have someone that's completely brilliant, you know, in person.
- 11:10And then you go to their website and they have typos on your website.
- 11:14Oh, antiquated pictures.
- 11:15It doesn't speak to any of the things that they're doing currently.
- 11:19And so having an overall aligned presence where you're really taking assessment of all those
- 11:24things and making sure they're in line with the message that's coming out of your mouth, the
- 11:29positioning that you wanna also have, with your clients as well.
- 11:33I love it.
- 11:34I love it.
- 11:35And so how important is it for you to have team.
- 11:39Like, when you're trying to uplevel your brand, who would who are the people you need around
- 11:44you to help you?
- 11:46Yeah.
- 11:46You well, you definitely don't need yes people.
- 11:48You need to in my opinion, you need people to have a little bit of that are visionaries.
- 11:53Meaning that.
- 11:54And the end, they are resolute, and they are team you, meaning that they have really bought
- 12:00into the things your mission they see you in the proper light, and they're always thinking
- 12:06about how can I elevate them?
- 12:08So they're not just a copy expert, you know, someone that writes your copy.
- 12:11There's somebody is somebody that is really in alignment with the message and what you wanna
- 12:16communicate and they write that way so that they model who you are.
- 12:21So having a good team in terms of, you know, when you talk about visually, you wanna have
- 12:26great glam squad, right?
- 12:28You wanna have people that keep you on point you know, whether it's your wardrobe, it's your
- 12:32makeup, your hair, your skin care, your nutrition, all those things because as business
- 12:37owners, we have to feel good inside of our army in order to be able to serve humanity.
- 12:43Right?
- 12:44And then you also wanna have other people, you know, depending on your business, you wanna
- 12:48have other team members that help to assist to push your brand forward.
- 12:52I always say have a few visionary people who can think out the box and see steps ahead of
- 12:59you to be able to say, hey, have you thought about trying this, or what about pushing your
- 13:06business this particular direction.
- 13:07So having, having, a team of people who are all yes people, but they're visionary thinkers, I
- 13:14think that that's very important too.
- 13:17Now I know that one of the things that you've created is called a brand U mentury, and I
- 13:22really want you to explain to my audience what that is and how you build that.
- 13:27Absolutely.
- 13:28So Brandy Menerey is telling the story of your brand in documentary format.
- 13:33I am a documentary filmmaker as well.
- 13:35And when I did my first documentary, I just saw the amount a transformation that happened
- 13:42within 90 minutes.
- 13:43It was remarkable, the things that happened within that 90 minutes.
- 13:47And so I thought I said, wow, what if you could create documentaries based on people's brands
- 13:54that help to tell their story?
- 13:55Because people are gonna they're gonna connect with you based on your story.
- 14:00They respect you based on your journey.
- 14:02If you can do that in a way, that you really connect with them, then when you go to make a
- 14:08offer or you ask them to join your community, it's pretty much a done deal because they have
- 14:12already identified followed you, they know you, they trust you, they like you.
- 14:17So brand new memory has been masterfully done, It's a it's a proprietary system that I create,
- 14:23and I also teach, to show people how to capture the essence of all of their life stories and
- 14:29make them turn them into different acts so that they are able to connect to their audience.
- 14:35And the the audience members are actually driven to a call to action.
- 14:41So it's always connected to a product, a service, etcetera, event that's going on.
- 14:47And so it's a very brilliant way of being able to enroll people into your to your mission.
- 14:53And they don't even realize, like, wow, I'm just falling in love with the person.
- 14:57So it's a proprietary system that I created that I had been utilizing for years.
- 15:01So I put just put system in order to.
- 15:05I love it.
- 15:05I love it.
- 15:07So tell me, how important is the messaging though?
- 15:11Cause it's like, You can I can tell you that I'm America's number 1 small business expert,
- 15:18but you got to prove that?
- 15:20Right.
- 15:20You know what I mean?
- 15:21You can't just be out here saying stuff without the the social proof or the the receipts, if
- 15:26you will, to throw down on the table.
- 15:29And I think what I see a lot happening now is that everybody and their mama wants to be a
- 15:34influencer or something on the gram.
- 15:37Right?
- 15:37And so how do you how do you there's so much noise out here now.
- 15:43There's so many experts, and they're not even selling you on their expertise.
- 15:47They're selling you on their lifestyle.
- 15:49Like, you wanna drive the car that they drive or pretend to be on private jets like they did.
- 15:56They paid somebody that worked at the airport so they can stand in front of this jet and take
- 16:00a picture Right.
- 16:01And I mean, this is the stuff people are doing to look like they are successful.
- 16:07So now that we have a generation of people who are into that, who who that appeals to them,
- 16:14how do you if you are a legit expert with legit content, how do you still how do you get
- 16:22noticed in this environment, which has become frankly so shallow?
- 16:28Absolutely.
- 16:28You know, the biggest thing is, and I wanna commend you on on your resilience of what you
- 16:33have maintained because you were doing this long before anybody think about it, but you
- 16:37were opening up your you opened up your mouth and you were demonstrating your expertise.
- 16:42You were brilliant at demonstrating your expertise.
- 16:46And so what happens is that I one of my missions is to take the voices that have all of
- 16:52the knowledge and and and usher them in to this age where they're they're having more
- 16:58conversations because what happens is just reality TV.
- 17:01People tune into reality TV because they're watching the show.
- 17:05They get to know these people.
- 17:06These people become celebrities to them.
- 17:08So the goal for me is to take these people who have all this brilliant talent and make them
- 17:14talk more.
- 17:16Make them more visible because like I always tell people, when the Bentley parks next to the
- 17:23Chrysler 300, you're gonna tell which one is the Bentley and which one is the Christ of
- 17:28pediatric.
- 17:29It's gonna be very obvious.
- 17:30And in this I call it an instafamous world where people, you know, suddenly, it just
- 17:37suddenly know so much If you'll start having the experts really start talking and
- 17:43demonstrating more and telling more of their story, trust me, people will begin to listen,
- 17:48but first, we gotta get you visible.
- 17:51We gotta get you packaged.
- 17:52And and and and to for a lot of us, especially people that are hard workers, we're so busy in
- 17:57the work that we're like, oh, I don't wanna shine.
- 18:00I'm just busy.
- 18:01I just wanna do the work.
- 18:02But you don't realize that your voice is the exact voice that needs to come forward.
- 18:07Like, we need your voice.
- 18:09We need your expertise your sensibility.
- 18:12We don't need the copy and pasters.
- 18:14We need the people who are legitimately they have skin in the game and they are really here
- 18:21on a mission to do exactly what they said that they're gonna do.
- 18:25I love it.
- 18:26I love it.
- 18:26Last question.
- 18:27Tell me, what is the best business advice you've ever gotten.
- 18:32So this was back in my beauty days.
- 18:36Gentlemen by the name of John Atcheson, he was Camille Cosby's, hairstylist.
- 18:42And at the time, John Atcheson used charged $250 for a haircut.
- 18:46That was a whole lot.
- 18:47Still a whole lot now, but it was really a whole lot back then.
- 18:50He said to me, Always train with the best.
- 18:55And to me, that stuck out in my head.
- 18:57And so no matter what I was doing or, you know, how I was pivot I always would find whoever was
- 19:03at the very top of their game, and that would be the person that I would want to learn from
- 19:10annulate or get mentorship from.
- 19:13It was whoever was the best in that particular industry.
- 19:17That's what I would look for.
- 19:18And I think that just holding that mantra, always trained with the best was something that
- 19:24was, very critical to me.
- 19:25The second piece just got one more was for my grandma.
- 19:29And my grandma said, you have to look the part to play the role.
- 19:36And that stuck with me because I do believe that 50% of you entering into a conversation or
- 19:42getting a seat at the table has everything to do with how you just show up.
- 19:46I I couldn't agree with you more.
- 19:48I've always believed that you're selling this before you get to sell whatever you're talking
- 19:52about right here.
- 19:53So I I'm 100, 100 percent in agreement.
- 19:57Thank you so much.
- 19:58You have imparted so much wisdom on my audience today.
- 20:02And me, and I just appreciate you so much.
- 20:05And thank you to Brandy Mitchell, known as the brand producer for more information.
- 20:09Head over to Brandy Mitchell, dotcom.
- 20:12And thank you all for joining me for this episode of the small bridge chat podcast.
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- 20:37Okay?
- 20:38Now the mission of the small bitch chat podcast is to end small business failure.
- 20:43I'm Melinda Emerson, your host, I will leave you with this.
- 20:45You never lose in business.
- 20:47Either you win or you learn.
- 20:49God bless everybody.
- 20:53Thanks for listening to the Small Biz chat podcast with Melinda Emerson.
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- 21:14Thanks again for listening, and we'll see you next week.