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Jerry Jones on paying premium for coaches, Giants should reconsider BIG TRADES, Miami-Notre Dame Preview · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The Volume. What is going on, my people? How are
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Speaker 1: we doing? John Middlecoff, Three and Out Podcast. Hopefully everyone
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Speaker 1: is doing well on this beautiful Tuesday afternoon. We've got
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Speaker 1: a lot going on. We've got Jerry Jones talking coaches.
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Speaker 1: John Harbaugh. Mad the Titans wouldn't call him back. Mark
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Speaker 1: Davis saying there is no pressure for me to start
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Speaker 1: the young quarterback. Aaron Glenn's clearly seat is scorching hot.
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Speaker 1: Why the Jets might need to cool that thing off
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Speaker 1: a little bit for him. And Notre Dame, which has
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Speaker 1: about as much win of a game as you're ever
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Speaker 1: going to see in college football in early November. We'll
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Speaker 1: do some mailbag questions as well, and that'll be the show.
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Speaker 1: Appreciate all you guys who watch the videos. And let's
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Speaker 1: dive into the Cowboys. But I did want to start.
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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones made some comments, which he speaks every week
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Speaker 1: multiple times, so he's always giving comments, which... On one hand,
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Speaker 1: you appreciate most of these owners never say a peep.
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Speaker 1: They never give press conferences. Jeffrey Lurie, I think, just
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Speaker 1: inducted himself into the Eagles Hall of Fame and didn't
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Speaker 1: talk to the press because obviously they were going to
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Speaker 1: ask him about the Jalen Hurts situation, which he probably
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Speaker 1: wants no part of chiming in on, even though I'm
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Speaker 1: sure he has takes. But he's not alone. No one
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Speaker 1: ever talks. They avoid it like the plague because it's
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Speaker 1: one of those– you know, public businesses where it's like,
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Speaker 1: I don't need to talk. And we just keep going cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching.
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Speaker 1: Jerry likes, you know, being this hybrid of businessman slash
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Speaker 1: grand poobah of the football team. He wants the credit.
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Speaker 1: Why hire a general manager when ultimately to get a
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Speaker 1: deal done, you got to come to me. It's always
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Speaker 1: been a stance and he stands by it. And he
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Speaker 1: has taken a lot of criticism over the years for
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Speaker 1: his coaches. And he said that there is no correlation
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Speaker 1: between between high paid coaches and winning, which is obviously
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Speaker 1: a laughable statement, right? When you look at the old guard,
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Speaker 1: Andy Reid makes a premium, guarantees you playoffs every single year.
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Speaker 1: Like last year was such an anomaly. People couldn't wrap
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Speaker 1: their head around the Chiefs just bottoming out. It was like,
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Speaker 1: what just happened? What happened immediately? They're back, 5-2. They're
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Speaker 1: going to win probably 11 games, and if they don't
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Speaker 1: win the division, they're a locked playoff team. Look at
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Speaker 1: the AFC standings. Now with the Ravens crumbling, Deshaun Watson
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Speaker 1: will just continue to play and not play well. The
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Speaker 1: Chiefs are in. Unless Mahomes gets injured again, they're going
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Speaker 1: to the playoffs. Sean Payton paid a premium, has got
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Speaker 1: an extension since. The Broncos go to the playoffs every year,
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Speaker 1: and their quarterback plays all over the map. Obviously, in
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Speaker 1: the NFC, Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan make a boatload
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Speaker 1: of money. They have been to five combined NFC championship games,
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Speaker 1: one of them in which they played each other, since 2022.
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Speaker 1: And before that, both of them had been in a
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl and lost. The Niners lost to the Chiefs,
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Speaker 1: and the Rams had lost to the Patriots. But it's
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Speaker 1: not just about paying guys a lot of money, right?
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Speaker 1: Because we have seen coaches, especially in college, make a
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Speaker 1: lot of money and fail. I agree with Jerry, just
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Speaker 1: cutting a big check to a guy doesn't guarantee anything.
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Speaker 1: But what does is the process you go about hiring
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Speaker 1: the person that is going to run a franchise. What
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Speaker 1: are the Cowboys worth? $ 15 billion? It's probably hard to
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Speaker 1: put a value on it. Because one, they're not going
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Speaker 1: to become available. And two, if they did, the price
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Speaker 1: of acquisition in terms of the competition would be insane.
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Speaker 1: So it's a priceless franchise. And Jerry treats it with
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Speaker 1: hiring random coaches historically. And the couple times he hired bigwigs,
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Speaker 1: it didn't work because they butted heads. And we'll get
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Speaker 1: into Mark Davis here in a second. I think the
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Speaker 1: greatest attribute an owner can have in this day and
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Speaker 1: age is, listen, you're not going to hire correctly every time.
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Speaker 1: Most times when you go into the hiring cycle, Andy
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Speaker 1: Reid and Sean Payton are not going to be available.
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Speaker 1: So you're going to have to take a chance on
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Speaker 1: a 31-year-old Sean McVay. And for every one of Sean McVay,
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Speaker 1: that guy turns out to be a completely over his
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Speaker 1: head coach. Kyle Shanahan, Mike McDonald, Ben Johnson. Mike McDonald
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Speaker 1: and Ben Johnson don't make as much as those two guys.
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Speaker 1: So it's like, well, they're not making as much and
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Speaker 1: look at their winning. Well, yeah, part of it, it's
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Speaker 1: like they're on their rookie contracts as a quarterback. Caleb
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Speaker 1: Williams right now doesn't make close to as much as
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Speaker 1: the Goffs, the Lamars, the Dak Prescotts, but that's because
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Speaker 1: of the contractual setup of the league. It's not because
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Speaker 1: he's not a valuable player. Same with Drake May. No
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Speaker 1: different than Ben Johnson and Mike McDonald. If they were
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Speaker 1: just free agents this offseason, they would immediately match or
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Speaker 1: exceed Shanahan and McVay. Like it or not, that's just
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Speaker 1: a reality of an open bidding process that never happens
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Speaker 1: for those guys. Because unlike college, where you can constantly
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Speaker 1: shop yourself to other teams, which I was thinking about
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Speaker 1: that the other day. One thing college needs to figure out,
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Speaker 1: if you want to curb these buyouts, is limit the
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Speaker 1: ability of like, you sign a five-year contract with Ole Miss,
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Speaker 1: you can't just go within the conference. Doesn't feel like
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Speaker 1: it's ever going to happen, but the NFL does that.
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Speaker 1: You can't just steal my coach. I can't just call
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Speaker 1: up the Jags and go, I'm coming after Liam Cohen.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't work that way. And so Jerry can make these
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Speaker 1: bold statements, which are obviously factually untrue, but I think
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Speaker 1: the pushback is... is there was an arrogance to Mike
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Speaker 1: McCarthy for the Cowboys brass, Jerry and Steven. And listen,
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Speaker 1: everything I've ever read about Steven seems like an impressive dude.
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Speaker 1: And I'm a Jerry fan. I like non-football necessarily, but
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Speaker 1: his mindset in life, his aggressiveness in business, his story
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Speaker 1: of how he got the Cowboys, I think it's something
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Speaker 1: I know it's popular this day and age to hate
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Speaker 1: on everyone successful. That's not the group of people that
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Speaker 1: I hang around with. Those are the type of people
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Speaker 1: you aspire to be like and get where they're at
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Speaker 1: or that path for your own family. So Jerry risked
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Speaker 1: it all, what he did to acquire the Cowboys, didn't
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Speaker 1: have the money, but clearly the ego and the inability
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Speaker 1: to just step away and go, let the big boy
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Speaker 1: take over. And back to McCarthy, they got McCarthy on
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Speaker 1: a relatively cheap deal. He was making $ 7 million a
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Speaker 1: year for five years. It was a $ 35 million contract
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Speaker 1: and they let it run out. And clearly the last
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Speaker 1: season didn't go that well. They had, you know, Dak
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Speaker 1: got injured. It turns out Mike McCarthy was too good
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Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. Mike McCarthy, the Cowboys never look at
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Speaker 1: a guy like Mike McCarthy. They hired Jason Garrett.
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Speaker 2: Why?
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Speaker 1: Because they had known him forever. He'd been a backup quarterback.
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Speaker 1: They hired Brian Schottenheimer because I think in a weird way,
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Speaker 1: I think Jerry wanted to be able to get credit
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Speaker 1: for doing something smart. None of you guys wanted this guy.
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Speaker 1: None of you would have even hired him to be
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Speaker 1: your offensive coordinator. And I made him my head coach.
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Speaker 1: And it's kind of in vogue. He's got a famous
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Speaker 1: last name, right? The Kubiaks, the Shanahans, even McVeigh's grandpa
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Speaker 1: was the GM for Bill Walsh. I did that with
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Speaker 1: a Schottenheimer. Well, it's not really going well. And you
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Speaker 1: clearly can't hire a defensive coordinator. So I think the
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Speaker 1: knock on Jerry is you don't even go after the
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Speaker 1: best and the brightest. Like if you fired Brian Schottenheimer
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Speaker 1: at the end of the year, I don't think anyone
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Speaker 1: would assume like they're going to go all in for
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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. They're going to take a big swing. You
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Speaker 1: know why? Because Jerry would never be able to swallow
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Speaker 1: his pride and give Tomlin the Harbaugh deal. Five years,
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Speaker 1: $ 100 million. Six years, $ 120 million deals. Get a star
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Speaker 1: head coach. Get a grown-up in the building that knows
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Speaker 1: what he's doing. Because he kind of had that with
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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. And he didn't really even have to pay
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Speaker 1: for it relative to what some of these other guys
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Speaker 1: are making. And for three straight years, they won 12 games.
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Speaker 1: And I've defended McCarthy forever in the situation of like,
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Speaker 1: Dak shit the bed more than he did. Dak was
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Speaker 1: terrible in a couple of those playoff games. The two
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Speaker 1: 49er games, he just couldn't have played worse. Now, I
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Speaker 1: don't think that just makes, you know, set in stone
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Speaker 1: that Dak could never get over the hump in a
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Speaker 1: playoff game. But he shit the bed in those moments.
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Speaker 1: I think he'd even agree with you over a couple cocktails.
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Speaker 1: Made some just inexcusable turnovers that cost him the game.
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Speaker 1: And then they went, oh, this guy's not actually that good.
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Speaker 1: And it's like, boom, you hire Brian Schottenheimer. So the
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Speaker 1: correlation of paying coaches and winning is obviously not true
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Speaker 1: because as you win, you get contract extensions, right? But
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Speaker 1: it's like John Schneider went after Mike McDonald. You know,
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Speaker 1: the Bears went all in for Ben Johnson because those
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Speaker 1: guys were clearly had an arrow and there's no guarantee
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Speaker 1: that coordinators translate into great head coaches. So as good
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Speaker 1: as those guys have been, they're more outliers than anything,
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Speaker 1: but they were the best guys on the market. They
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Speaker 1: were people that had a unique set of skills, right?
10:02
Speaker 1: As a famous man once said in a movie. And
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Speaker 1: it's translated. McDonald wins the Super Bowl. Ben Johnson looks
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Speaker 1: like he's going to have a good chance to win
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl this year. The other guys that have
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Speaker 1: a chance to win the Super Bowl are like Kyle Shanahan.
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Speaker 1: Andy Reid, Sean Payton, Mike McCarthy has his team 6-2.
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Speaker 1: Having a grown-up in that position is very important. And
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Speaker 1: typically in the NFL, just like in college football, those
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Speaker 1: guys cost a lot of money. The thing with the
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Speaker 1: general manager, and I got lucky enough, at one point
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Speaker 1: in time in my life, works for one of the
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Speaker 1: best of all time in Howie. he'd be the first
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Speaker 1: to tell you. Like, once the game starts, he has
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Speaker 1: no impact. Honestly, his impact throughout the week is somewhat limited.
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Speaker 1: He's not installing the game plan. He's not running practice.
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Speaker 1: A GM's limitations once the season starts are much greater
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Speaker 1: than even I try to articulate here on this podcast.
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Speaker 1: They don't have that much juice. They can add a
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Speaker 1: player like Poles did in the trade, but once they
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Speaker 1: add Jeffrey Simmons, he has no say over anything that
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Speaker 1: happens with him really. That's on Dennis Allen, the defensive
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Speaker 1: line coach, to line him up, to use him. Obviously
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Speaker 1: a guy like Jeffrey Simmons is basically scheme proof, but
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Speaker 1: his power is making the move. But once Jeffrey Simmons arrives,
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Speaker 1: gets his Bears workout clothes and practice uniforms and game
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Speaker 1: uniforms kind of out of his hand. And I think, Jerry,
11:39
Speaker 1: this gets back to the oil business. Like most industries,
11:44
Speaker 1: how many people do you have in your life? And
11:46
Speaker 1: it could be yourself. That if you are the president
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Speaker 1: of a company, if you play a major role in
11:52
Speaker 1: a company, if you started a company, you have a
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Speaker 1: lot of control. You make a lot of decisions on
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Speaker 1: the outputs that lead to the outcomes for whatever the
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Speaker 1: business is. That's not really the case of someone in
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Speaker 1: Jerry's role. A lot of it is out of his hands.
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Speaker 1: And I think he's really struggled because he came into
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Speaker 1: the time in a league when these guys just didn't
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Speaker 1: cost that much money. And then once upon a time,
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Speaker 1: he replaced Jimmy Johnson and still won a Super Bowl.
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Speaker 1: And I think that has clouded his judgment ever since.
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Speaker 1: Someone told me once the worst combination was discretionary income
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Speaker 1: and free time factored in with youth because you can
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Speaker 1: make a lot of decisions when you're young and have
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Speaker 1: a lot of money. There's probably some truth to that
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Speaker 1: even though nowadays, especially with football, these guys have all
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Speaker 1: these college kids are making a ton of money. I
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Speaker 1: watch football all day Saturday. A lot of them feel
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Speaker 1: like they're playing really hard. It doesn't feel in terms
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Speaker 1: of the product on the field, it's not like I
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Speaker 1: watch the top teams and go, God, half these guys
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Speaker 1: aren't even trying anymore. Just getting paid. It's like, looks
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Speaker 1: kind of the same to me. Now, maybe their chemistry
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Speaker 1: as a team because of the transfer portal is not
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Speaker 1: the same as yesteryear, but it still feels like you
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Speaker 1: paid me a million dollars at 20 years old. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if you're getting my greatest effort, but man,
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Speaker 1: I think Jerry's really struggled to adapt with the modern times. Um,
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Speaker 1: Harbaugh made a comment, because I saw Florio, I don't
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Speaker 1: know if he reported this, or he was talking about
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Speaker 1: it in a clip I saw, that people have had
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Speaker 1: a hard time getting a hold of Mike Borgonzi. They
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Speaker 1: had been making calls, not even just about Jeffrey Simmons,
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Speaker 1: but about Tony Pollard and other players on their roster,
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Speaker 1: and he just wasn't calling them back. And clearly, before polls,
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Speaker 1: they were shutting down everybody. And Harbaugh had a press conference,
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Speaker 1: it was Pretty funny. Where he basically said, well, we
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Speaker 1: couldn't get a hold of anyone. And my guess is,
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Speaker 1: behind the scenes, Joe Shane's like, I'm blowing this guy up.
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Speaker 1: He won't text me back. He won't call me back.
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Speaker 1: And John Harbaugh went, well, I got the owner's number.
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Speaker 1: How about I give her a call? I don't think
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Speaker 1: she picked up either. He left a message. And he
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Speaker 1: was essentially saying, like, we wanted in on the conversation.
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Speaker 1: Two things to this. First, Even if the Giants were
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Speaker 1: willing to match the Bears deal, which I think we'd
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Speaker 1: all agree would probably be a better deal, even if
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Speaker 1: it was the same exact, because one, the Giants quarterback
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Speaker 1: situation is still very much a question mark. And over
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Speaker 1: the next couple years, you would imagine, even if the Giants,
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Speaker 1: let's say, win the division this year, more than likely
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Speaker 1: a lot of people will bet against them in the
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Speaker 1: first round. depending on their opponent, but honestly, not even
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Speaker 1: depending on their opponent. I think you're going to like
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Speaker 1: Seattle versus the Giants. It's like the 5-4 matchup or
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Speaker 1: the 3-6 matchup, something like that, or the Packers. They
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Speaker 1: will probably be a home underdog. We've got a long
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Speaker 1: way to go, but have a hard time seeing J.J. McCarthy, honestly.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say change my opinion, but that
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Speaker 1: game was, hey, man, I got to at least put
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Speaker 1: it upstairs that this could go in a positive direction.
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Speaker 1: But that being said, like, probably be a home underdog
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Speaker 1: if you're 9-7-1 or something. They should not be in
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Speaker 1: the business of giving up multiple first-round picks. They are
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Speaker 1: not a player away. Even a player of Simmons' caliber. I...
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Speaker 1: The Bears, I don't know if any team is truly a, quote,
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Speaker 1: player away, but the Bears are about as close as
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Speaker 1: you can get, especially if he's going to play like that.
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Speaker 1: I do not believe that you just insert Jeffrey Simmons
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Speaker 1: on the Giants and all of a sudden now they
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Speaker 1: are Super Bowl contenders. And when you don't have your
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Speaker 1: quarterback situation figured out, making moves like that can blow
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Speaker 1: up in your face. We have just seen Jeffrey Simmons,
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Speaker 1: who has played exactly like that on the Titans, and
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Speaker 1: they have been losing week after week after week for years.
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Speaker 1: So the infrastructure, that's the thing about football. Context matters,
16:12
Speaker 1: teammates matter, coaching matters, scheme matters, the depth of your
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Speaker 1: roster matters. A lot of different variables. And so, listen,
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Speaker 1: it's probably good, John, that if... Because the Giants are
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Speaker 1: no longer a front office-led operation. The coach, for the
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Speaker 1: first time in franchise history, is the top of the
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Speaker 1: food chain. Is at the top of the org chart.
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Speaker 1: And that was a big sticking point for John, right?
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Speaker 1: Talking to ownership before he got the job, I got
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Speaker 1: to be at the top. Don't blame him. He had
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Speaker 1: the leverage. Got $ 100 million. I ain't answering to this guy.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to work for Ozzie Newsome here. even
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Speaker 1: though I would say Joe Shane's quieted the critics, and
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Speaker 1: I'm definitely one, seems like a nice guy, and is
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Speaker 1: doing a good job clearly making John happy. The other
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Speaker 1: element here is that people, and a ton of you guys, right?
17:09
Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of human beings, at least a
17:11
Speaker 1: lot of humans in my life. I would imagine a
17:13
Speaker 1: lot of people listening to this. I mean, I get DMs,
17:16
Speaker 1: are in some form of sales. And I think Most
17:21
Speaker 1: people would agree that are in that field that people
17:25
Speaker 1: like doing business with people they know and like. I
17:30
Speaker 1: would say that's a pretty consistent theme in the world.
17:35
Speaker 1: You do business with, I don't even just want to
17:38
Speaker 1: say your friends, but once you do a deal, you
17:41
Speaker 1: end up liking the guy. Maybe you have a dinner
17:43
Speaker 1: with the guy. In a lot of different fields, you
17:46
Speaker 1: take people out and wine and dine them. Maybe you
17:47
Speaker 1: play golf with the guy. However the relationship grows on
17:50
Speaker 1: a personal level, that typically expands the business relationship. And
17:57
Speaker 1: football is the ultimate kind of web connection of one
18:02
Speaker 1: or two rings from basically everyone in the league. And
18:05
Speaker 1: if you've been in the league a while, a lot
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Speaker 1: of people have worked with other people. You've been on
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Speaker 1: a staff with this guy. You spent a couple years
18:13
Speaker 1: as a young scout, as a young coach with the
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Speaker 1: staff with this guy. Now you're both head coaches. You're
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Speaker 1: both coordinators. You're both general managers. Happens all the time.
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Speaker 1: And Ryan Poles and Mike Borgonzi worked together for years
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Speaker 1: in Kansas City. They know each other extremely well. And
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Speaker 1: if you're Borgonzi and you're going to make this trade...
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Speaker 1: you're probably in a perfect world like to send him
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Speaker 1: to the NFC. Though you could argue the Titans are
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Speaker 1: so bad, it doesn't matter. It's like you could probably
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Speaker 1: trade him to anybody for whatever the best package is.
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Speaker 1: And you go, well, aren't you supposed to do what
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Speaker 1: is in the best interest of the organization? Yeah. Was
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Speaker 1: anyone trading more than two first round picks for him?
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Speaker 1: And the answer is no. Now, would someone have matched that? Potentially. Potentially.
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Speaker 1: But if you are going to send them somewhere, one,
19:03
Speaker 1: players have a lot of juice. And you want to
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Speaker 1: do right by the player. Sure seems like Jeffrey Simmons
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Speaker 1: was really excited to be a part of the Chicago Bears.
19:13
Speaker 1: It's like, how did the 49ers get Buckner for a fourth?
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Speaker 1: Because his agent was telling people, we don't want to
19:19
Speaker 1: go to X, Y, and Z. We want to play
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Speaker 1: for the 49ers. Football is not basketball where the players
19:27
Speaker 1: dictate everything, but they have more juice now than ever.
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Speaker 1: And I would imagine Simmons played somewhat of a role
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Speaker 1: in this. Hey, if you are going to trade me,
19:35
Speaker 1: this is where I'd be interested. They work with him.
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Speaker 1: You want to have a good relationship with him. And
19:40
Speaker 1: traded him to a guy he knows well. Welcome to
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Speaker 1: the league. You think Greg Roman just randomly shows up
19:47
Speaker 1: on Harbaugh's staff? Of course not. The Harbaugh's passed that
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Speaker 1: guy back like it's butter at the dinner table. John
19:55
Speaker 1: was funny about it, but it would scare me a
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Speaker 1: little bit. This was a little Pete Carroll in the peak,
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Speaker 1: in the end of the LLB era. It's like, well,
20:04
Speaker 1: I'm the boss. I'll do whatever I want. And he
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20:10
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20:12
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20:17
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20:20
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20:56
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21:02
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23:24
Speaker 1: It's funny that a lot of you didn't know me
23:28
Speaker 1: as doing this business when I worked in radio. And
23:33
Speaker 1: I used to do the Raiders post-game show. And we
23:36
Speaker 1: used to host shows from training camp at Napa. It
23:39
Speaker 1: was really cool. I really enjoyed it. And then my
23:43
Speaker 1: career in that industry ended when the Raiders and I
23:46
Speaker 1: didn't see eye to eye. And I wouldn't be like a...
23:50
Speaker 1: Team Shill would probably be unfair, but I'd be critical.
23:54
Speaker 1: They didn't like being critical. They were a little sensitive.
23:57
Speaker 1: And while I always had in person a good relationship
24:00
Speaker 1: with Mark... I heard from people that knew Mark well
24:04
Speaker 1: that he's not happy with things you say. And so
24:07
Speaker 1: when my radio career ended and it was clear that
24:10
Speaker 1: the Raiders made that happen and they inserted one of
24:13
Speaker 1: their own employees into my radio slot, everyone thought that
24:17
Speaker 1: I hated the Raiders. And I was probably, listen, I'm
24:20
Speaker 1: a human being, maybe a little overly critical slash having
24:24
Speaker 1: some fun with it. My life relatively quickly started going
24:28
Speaker 1: well again. I'm not a bitter person. As Coward wrote
24:32
Speaker 1: in a book back in the day, holding a grudge
24:35
Speaker 1: is like chain smoking hate. I can't do that because
24:38
Speaker 1: I can't operate in anger. I can't function. So I
24:42
Speaker 1: got over it relatively quick. They just happen to continue
24:45
Speaker 1: to suck. So when you talk about a football team,
24:47
Speaker 1: you're going to come off negatively. If they're always losing,
24:50
Speaker 1: what are you supposed to say? It's hard to say
24:52
Speaker 1: the grass is green when you look around and there's
24:54
Speaker 1: weeds and brown dirt everywhere. So, which is kind of
24:58
Speaker 1: how the Raiders practice facility at Alameda used to be.
25:01
Speaker 1: I've always said this about Mark Davis. And a lot
25:04
Speaker 1: of owners are like this, but he truly is, and
25:06
Speaker 1: I've had an up-close view of this. He does not
25:11
Speaker 1: meddle at all. Part of the Raiders' struggles over the
25:15
Speaker 1: course of his ownership after Al Davis passed away wasn't
25:20
Speaker 1: because he was telling people who to draft, who to sign,
25:24
Speaker 1: what to do on game day. He hires you, and
25:27
Speaker 1: this goes from Gruden to Jack Del Rio to Reggie
25:30
Speaker 1: McKenzie to Spytek to now Kubiak. He lets you do
25:35
Speaker 1: whatever you want. Max Crosby's probably, since he's on the team,
25:39
Speaker 1: his favorite player. He allowed Spytek to trade him this offseason.
25:43
Speaker 1: Turns out Eric DaCosta had got on cold feet, second thoughts,
25:49
Speaker 1: sent him home, but he allowed that to happen. And
25:53
Speaker 1: Mark Davis had some comments to the Las Vegas Review Journal.
25:59
Speaker 1: I guess newspapers still going strong in Vegas. Here was
26:03
Speaker 1: the quote that stood out on if he has any
26:09
Speaker 1: opinions on Fernando Mendoza starting for the Raiders this season.
26:14
Speaker 1: For me, there is absolutely no pressure whatsoever. Today, there's
26:19
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure put on teams when they draft
26:22
Speaker 1: a guy at number one and have to play him
26:25
Speaker 1: right away. That's why I think we're so fortunate to
26:28
Speaker 1: have Cousins as someone who can bridge the gap and
26:31
Speaker 1: let the young man learn what football is in the pros,
26:34
Speaker 1: the speed of the game, and the things that have
26:37
Speaker 1: to be done. And he's picking it up great. And
26:40
Speaker 1: I think we're fortunate he doesn't have to go out
26:42
Speaker 1: there right now and play. I'm a big believer in
26:47
Speaker 1: learn by doing. That's the motto of the college I
26:50
Speaker 1: went to at Cal Poly. My guy Tim Skipper is
26:52
Speaker 1: kind of struggling right now. They just got their doors
26:54
Speaker 1: blown off by Montana State. But it takes time to
26:56
Speaker 1: build a program. That's the way I learn. I never
27:01
Speaker 1: learned in a classroom. on slide shows and reading books
27:05
Speaker 1: and regurgitating it to a test. That is not how
27:11
Speaker 1: I take in information and have it sit within me
27:15
Speaker 1: moving forward. I have to do stuff. I have to
27:17
Speaker 1: get my hands dirty or in this profession, just podcast,
27:21
Speaker 1: just talk, whatever job you have. And I know a
27:24
Speaker 1: lot of people are like this. You just have to do.
27:27
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you're going to know what you're doing
27:29
Speaker 1: right away, but that's how you learn. And when I
27:32
Speaker 1: was in college, I lived with a guy who went
27:34
Speaker 1: on to create his own company, sold it. I think
27:36
Speaker 1: he retired before he was 40. Guy was a genius.
27:39
Speaker 1: I never saw him study one second, got straight A's.
27:43
Speaker 1: I remember copying one quarter. I almost failed out of school.
27:47
Speaker 1: I'm like, you have cocktails every night. You're high all
27:50
Speaker 1: the time. You just go to the weight room. What
27:53
Speaker 1: do you even do? Guy was just genius. And we're
27:57
Speaker 1: all wired differently. It's like why people gave so much
27:59
Speaker 1: credit to people like Andrew Luck that has his photographic
28:02
Speaker 1: memory or Sean McVay. Not everyone is like that. Some people,
28:06
Speaker 1: you know, have to spend more time to, I would say,
28:12
Speaker 1: learn whatever information is in front of them. And while
28:17
Speaker 1: I do believe that playing is how you work through
28:21
Speaker 1: things and how you figure it out at quarterback level,
28:24
Speaker 1: I do appreciate that he hired John Spytek to be
28:28
Speaker 1: his GM because he needed some money. So what did
28:32
Speaker 1: he do? He went and got a billionaire guy who
28:35
Speaker 1: was buddies with Tom Brady. He brought them into the organization.
28:39
Speaker 1: And he has let them have an influence in this offseason.
28:43
Speaker 1: The old Raiders would not have been to buy all
28:45
Speaker 1: those players. They didn't have the capital back when they
28:48
Speaker 1: were in Oakland. Well, now moving to Vegas, adding these
28:51
Speaker 1: big money guys, the franchise has changed. And then they
28:54
Speaker 1: hire Kubiak, and Kubiak's a big believer in, I don't
28:58
Speaker 1: think he should play. Brady's reiterating that. I think it's
29:02
Speaker 1: healthy to let a guy sit and learn. I think
29:05
Speaker 1: a lot of owners would just be like, we've seen enough.
29:10
Speaker 1: Not quite yet. I mean, right now they're still competitive,
29:13
Speaker 1: but I... I think even regular fans, this team's probably
29:16
Speaker 1: closer to 7-10 than they are 10-7 when the dust settles.
29:20
Speaker 1: They play the 49ers this week coming off a bye.
29:22
Speaker 1: Probably won't go well. There's nothing wrong with that. But
29:25
Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza came from a program with an elite defense,
29:32
Speaker 1: an elite running game, and elite wide receivers. He had
29:38
Speaker 1: Omar Cooper Jr. that every time I look up for
29:40
Speaker 1: the Jets is making a play. He had Charlie Becker
29:42
Speaker 1: who is probably going to be the highest drafted wide
29:46
Speaker 1: receiver in I don't even know when. I mean, Charlie
29:50
Speaker 1: Becker is better than every wide receiver not named Jeremiah
29:54
Speaker 1: Smith and Tony at Miami, and Tony's not draft eligible.
29:57
Speaker 1: He is fucking incredible. He's been awesome. Indiana's offense has sucked.
30:03
Speaker 1: It ain't his fault. It's because the quarterback can't get
30:05
Speaker 1: him the ball. He's open every single play. And that's
30:08
Speaker 1: who Fernando Mendoza was slinging the pill for. Even the
30:11
Speaker 1: running back, Kalon Black, was like, this guy's not going
30:14
Speaker 1: to the combine. This guy's just a college player. 49ers like, yeah,
30:17
Speaker 1: we're going to make him a third-round pick. And he
30:20
Speaker 1: immediately just looks good.
30:21
Speaker 2: Why?
30:22
Speaker 1: Because he is good. And that's who Fernando played with.
30:25
Speaker 1: A bunch of NFL players, and they beat everybody. And
30:28
Speaker 1: then you go to the Raiders, it's like, well, we
30:30
Speaker 1: can't run the ball. Actually, the guy we drafted six
30:34
Speaker 1: overall has not been playing well and then kind of
30:37
Speaker 1: opened his mouth and clearly pissed off the coach and
30:39
Speaker 1: is going to the Pine, and we're going to go
30:42
Speaker 1: with Washington. Oh, yeah, we don't really have any wide receivers.
30:46
Speaker 1: Gaylor's not bad. Trey Tucker could scoot, as Cousins said,
30:50
Speaker 1: but none of these guys would be top two wide
30:52
Speaker 1: receivers on a good unit. Now, we do got tight ends,
30:56
Speaker 1: and one of them is... as good as it gets,
31:00
Speaker 1: but that's kind of our offense. And defensively, yeah, even
31:04
Speaker 1: the Jets can score 35. I mean, so it's like,
31:08
Speaker 1: this is not a team equipped. Like you could get
31:11
Speaker 1: your ass kicked. You could get throttled in this moment.
31:16
Speaker 1: And I would, like if I was in charge, I
31:22
Speaker 1: would never be opposed to giving a guy some games
31:24
Speaker 1: because But if you had a philosophical belief that we're
31:27
Speaker 1: going to sit this guy down and Cousins is able
31:30
Speaker 1: to play and not get injured and function at a
31:34
Speaker 1: high enough level. I mean, he's played pretty well. You
31:37
Speaker 1: might as well stick to it. But this is where
31:39
Speaker 1: Mark deserves credit. I just don't think a lot of
31:41
Speaker 1: owners would allow that to happen. And I think it's underrated.
31:45
Speaker 1: And whenever I talk to people in decision-making positions in
31:49
Speaker 1: the NFL, they're like, you don't quite understand what I
31:51
Speaker 1: got to deal with. I mean, it's tough. Because those
31:55
Speaker 1: guys not only have opinions, they ultimately sign everybody's check.
32:00
Speaker 1: So when they say jump, your only answer is how high.
32:05
Speaker 1: And I think that happens all the time in dysfunctional organizations.
32:10
Speaker 1: Ownership gets involved with these type decisions. And once they do,
32:17
Speaker 1: it can often, I would say, fracture buildings because maybe
32:22
Speaker 1: the players don't agree, but it's not their call. And
32:24
Speaker 1: typically the players and the coaches in a good operating
32:29
Speaker 1: franchise are kind of rowing in the same direction. But
32:32
Speaker 1: when you get the owner that has a different take
32:34
Speaker 1: and then the coach has to pretend to believe that take,
32:37
Speaker 1: then things can get weird. So I think they've done
32:41
Speaker 1: the right thing with Fernando Mendoza because of the way
32:44
Speaker 1: this team is set up. Sometimes, like Bo Nix got
32:47
Speaker 1: to play right away, he went to a good team.
32:50
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is the best example who got to sit
32:52
Speaker 1: for a year Carson Palmer sat for a year. You know,
32:55
Speaker 1: Brady sat for a year, but he was also a
32:56
Speaker 1: six-round pick. He wasn't even the starter in year two.
32:59
Speaker 1: It took Drew Bledsoe getting knocked out by Mo Lewis. God,
33:04
Speaker 1: the Ravens, even their third stringer from UConn's injured, not good.
33:09
Speaker 1: They're almost like a 10-point underdog going into this Thursday
33:12
Speaker 1: night game. It's crazy how fast things can change in
33:16
Speaker 1: the NFL. There is nothing like oh yeah our quarterback's
33:23
Speaker 1: out for the season or our quarterback's just gone for
33:25
Speaker 1: a long time it's like you basically immediately get written
33:29
Speaker 1: off immediately it's one thing it's like hey he's gonna
33:33
Speaker 1: miss a couple games like okay can we just win
33:35
Speaker 1: a game lose a game can we just hold our
33:38
Speaker 1: head above water it's like yeah he's probably out for
33:41
Speaker 1: the season you get immediately written off even Ravens fans
33:45
Speaker 1: would be like we're done But at least you go, hey,
33:49
Speaker 1: we end up going 6-11. It is understandable. Lamar Jackson
33:54
Speaker 1: missed several games with an ankle and then broke his thumb,
33:58
Speaker 1: missed that entire game essentially, and then the rest of
34:00
Speaker 1: the season. Yeah, totally get it. Welcome to the NFL.
34:04
Speaker 1: And then there's the Jets. I don't know if they're
34:09
Speaker 1: just in my algorithm, but I see so much craziness
34:12
Speaker 1: with Aaron Glenn. his press conferences, then all the local
34:16
Speaker 1: press saying, what's he talking about? He screwed up another
34:19
Speaker 1: end of half. He screwed up the end of game.
34:21
Speaker 1: He's never correct on the way he kicks field goals
34:25
Speaker 1: or goes for it. And then he tries to, you know,
34:27
Speaker 1: describe his decision-making process after the game or during the week.
34:31
Speaker 1: And it just gets worse and worse and worse. It
34:35
Speaker 1: clearly is a shit show in New York. I do believe, though,
34:39
Speaker 1: the best thing they can do, and it's only going
34:40
Speaker 1: to get louder and louder and louder, fire him, fire him,
34:43
Speaker 1: fire him, fire him, fire Aaron Glenn. I think it
34:47
Speaker 1: is important for Woody Johnson, for the first time in
34:50
Speaker 1: a while, to just let it play out. Let them
34:55
Speaker 1: keep losing games, and then after the season, fire the guy.
35:00
Speaker 1: And then go big game hunting. Because your job with
35:04
Speaker 1: all these first-round picks, with a young nucleus of high-level players,
35:09
Speaker 1: should be extremely appealing to anyone worth their salt in
35:14
Speaker 1: the coaching market, starting with Mike Tomlin on down to
35:18
Speaker 1: the next best options. I do think, though, despite the
35:23
Speaker 1: amount of talent you have and the future war chest
35:26
Speaker 1: of picks you have as well, that if you fire
35:29
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn in the next couple weeks... You will have
35:32
Speaker 1: fired two guys in the last three years in the
35:35
Speaker 1: middle of the season. Your organization will feel a little
35:39
Speaker 1: bit like the Titans. And while your record parallels them,
35:46
Speaker 1: what you have coming in terms of assets does not.
35:50
Speaker 1: It doesn't get any better. In a draft that should
35:54
Speaker 1: be pretty loaded, especially at the top. Even non-quarterback, there
35:58
Speaker 1: should be 15 to 20 impact level players. It should
36:02
Speaker 1: blow away the last draft in terms of the first round.
36:06
Speaker 1: You never know because guys can go back to school
36:08
Speaker 1: with NIL. But I would imagine this year we get
36:11
Speaker 1: a lot of guys coming out, which we already know
36:13
Speaker 1: some of them. Jeremiah Smith, Colin Simmons, Stewart at South Carolina,
36:20
Speaker 1: the corner more at Notre Dame. I mean, there's going
36:23
Speaker 1: to be a lot of high-end players in this draft.
36:27
Speaker 1: And I think you just got to take a deep breath.
36:29
Speaker 1: You've got to ride out the negativity. You've got to
36:31
Speaker 1: turn down the radio a little bit when you're in
36:34
Speaker 1: the back of getting driven around in the Bentley by
36:36
Speaker 1: your driver. And just suck. You already do suck, but
36:42
Speaker 1: just continue to suck and ride it out with Aaron Glenn.
36:44
Speaker 1: Who I think clearly Woody likes personally. It was hard
36:49
Speaker 1: not to root for when he was with the Detroit Lions,
36:51
Speaker 1: but this goes back to you just never know. And
36:54
Speaker 1: some guys get put under the spotlight. Some guys have
36:56
Speaker 1: to make decisions. It's so much easier for all of
36:59
Speaker 1: us to be great decision makers on our couch with
37:02
Speaker 1: cheesy popcorn and a Diet Coke. It is way more
37:05
Speaker 1: difficult on the sideline. I mean, for 15 years, everyone
37:09
Speaker 1: said Andy Reid was the worst game management coach of
37:11
Speaker 1: all time. It's not easy. But there also is like, well,
37:15
Speaker 1: can you just at least coach the team correctly? Can
37:18
Speaker 1: we just be good at something week in, week out?
37:20
Speaker 1: The answer is no. Then you probably just have no
37:22
Speaker 1: clue what you're doing. But when you have... No team
37:27
Speaker 1: is more equipped. And things can change. But when you
37:31
Speaker 1: look at the team's picks, they have the Indianapolis Colts pick.
37:36
Speaker 1: I mean, it is not out of the realm of
37:38
Speaker 1: possibility that the Colts don't win another game. Now it's
37:41
Speaker 1: the NFL. Things get weird. Late in the season, you
37:44
Speaker 1: play good teams. They overlook you. You try maybe a fumble.
37:48
Speaker 1: Maybe a quarterback has a bad day. I would put
37:52
Speaker 1: the over-under on wins for the Colts the rest of
37:54
Speaker 1: the season at like one and a half. That's pretty powerful.
37:59
Speaker 1: And I would say the Cowboys look pretty tasty right
38:01
Speaker 1: now as well. On top of that, you just suck.
38:05
Speaker 1: So your pick's going to be high because you ain't
38:08
Speaker 1: going to win many games. I do think the Jets
38:11
Speaker 1: are more likely to win some games than the Colts,
38:13
Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter because you got both those picks.
38:16
Speaker 1: I saw this rant on Instagram. It was like one
38:19
Speaker 1: of the local radio stations for the Eagles. I think
38:23
Speaker 1: it was WIP or 95.7 The Fanatic. which when I
38:26
Speaker 1: lived in Philly, I listened to a lot. It was
38:30
Speaker 1: just red meat. I mean, guys just pissed off all
38:33
Speaker 1: the time about everything, which I appreciate about the Northeast.
38:37
Speaker 1: Sports Talk Radio is like the anger in the middle
38:42
Speaker 1: of June. about going nuts on the fourth inning in
38:47
Speaker 1: a Phillies game. How can you even pretend this matters?
38:50
Speaker 1: But they could, I don't know if they're manipulating it,
38:53
Speaker 1: it's just their personality, which makes for an interesting listen.
38:58
Speaker 1: I enjoyed that style of radio, which doesn't exist many
39:02
Speaker 1: places anymore that are also having success. But this guy
39:06
Speaker 1: went on this crazy rant about everyone's talking, the Eagles
39:09
Speaker 1: should tank, the Eagles should tank. He's like, they don't
39:11
Speaker 1: need to tank, they just need to keep playing. They
39:15
Speaker 1: just lost by 17 points to the Commanders. Who are
39:17
Speaker 1: any good? They're going to play the Giants this week,
39:21
Speaker 1: probably lose again. Those are teams that, I mean, the
39:24
Speaker 1: Giants might end up having a decent record, but even
39:26
Speaker 1: Giants fans would be like, this is kind of crazy.
39:28
Speaker 1: I mean, this team's not that good. you know, relative
39:31
Speaker 1: to some teams we've had in years past that have
39:33
Speaker 1: had success over the last 25 years. Just play the games.
39:37
Speaker 1: Sometimes you can just play the games and you will
39:39
Speaker 1: just lose. Like the Dolphins are a good example. They're
39:42
Speaker 1: playing hard, but they don't have enough talent. If they're
39:45
Speaker 1: playing a decent team who's playing decently well, let alone
39:48
Speaker 1: a good team who plays well, they're going to lose
39:50
Speaker 1: every game. That's the thing with the Browns. It's like
39:53
Speaker 1: they're playing hard enough, well coached enough that if Sean
39:55
Speaker 1: just is okay, they can kind of stick around. But
39:59
Speaker 1: when they get the Steelers who are playing better on
40:00
Speaker 1: the road, like they can just crumple. And yeah. Last
40:06
Speaker 1: but not least, before we do the mailbag, Notre Dame,
40:09
Speaker 1: Miami this weekend. Perception can become reality, right? It was
40:14
Speaker 1: clearly something was off with Troy Buck, or I mean,
40:17
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman and Joe Buck. And then we started learning more.
40:21
Speaker 1: Then we watched the first, after the story kind of
40:24
Speaker 1: broke a month ago, there was that opening where Troy
40:28
Speaker 1: wouldn't look him in the eye. You're like, God, something's
40:31
Speaker 1: going on. This is bad. And then the article comes
40:34
Speaker 1: out kind of explaining it all. You're like, it's even
40:35
Speaker 1: worse than I thought. You know, I heard something recently
40:38
Speaker 1: about Tony Romo. That the perception of Tony Romo was basically...
40:43
Speaker 1: I'm guilty sometimes of just reiterating these things that are
40:47
Speaker 1: kind of assumed to be true out there. Like, Tony
40:50
Speaker 1: Romo's lazy. He doesn't want to work hard. I talked
40:54
Speaker 1: to someone that played with Tony Romo in one of
40:57
Speaker 1: these random tournaments he plays in. Which is pretty crazy.
41:01
Speaker 1: that Tony Romo plays in all these amateur events, it'd
41:04
Speaker 1: be one thing. It's like, well, he wins like every
41:06
Speaker 1: other one. Like, I get it. He wants his juices flowing.
41:08
Speaker 1: He's really good. Sometimes I look at his scores. He's
41:11
Speaker 1: like DFL. He's not even close to ever making the
41:15
Speaker 1: cut in any of these events. But this one guy
41:17
Speaker 1: who's a really good player, who's good friends with one
41:20
Speaker 1: of my buddies, was like, yeah, I played with him
41:22
Speaker 1: in the event where he got DQ'd for writing down
41:25
Speaker 1: the wrong scores. I'm like, you're telling me Tony Romo
41:30
Speaker 1: And this was after he got fired. It's like, Tony,
41:32
Speaker 1: just like you hit the lottery, man. Just hang out
41:36
Speaker 1: with your family, play some country club golf if you
41:38
Speaker 1: want to get your rocks off. But like, why are
41:41
Speaker 1: you doing this? And I wonder if he's just bored.
41:44
Speaker 1: But he said that it's like Tony Romo's a cheater.
41:48
Speaker 1: He's like, honestly, bro, Tony didn't know what was going on.
41:52
Speaker 1: He's like, Tony would write down the wrong scores. It's
41:55
Speaker 1: not because he was trying to get an edge. I
41:58
Speaker 1: think he was just in a la-la land. I started
42:00
Speaker 1: thinking like, Tony take a few too many hits over
42:03
Speaker 1: the years. That body, it's not even just downstairs, like upstairs.
42:08
Speaker 1: Is Tony still all there? Is there a chance he
42:11
Speaker 1: actually was grinding and preparing for these games? Just that
42:15
Speaker 1: short-term memory, long-term memory, just the memory of ain't really working.
42:20
Speaker 1: I mean, cause I started thinking like everyone is just
42:22
Speaker 1: shitting on this guy for not trying. What if he was,
42:27
Speaker 1: and it just didn't stick. So again, I'm not saying that,
42:33
Speaker 1: that he actually was working hard, but it was the
42:36
Speaker 1: first time made me think like, I wonder if everyone's
42:39
Speaker 1: been too hard on this guy. I wonder if he's
42:41
Speaker 1: got his, uh, his noodle rung a few too many times,
42:45
Speaker 1: but I, The perception of Notre Dame, let's face it,
42:51
Speaker 1: there's historically been a big-time arrogance with the fan base.
42:56
Speaker 1: They've had a lot of success back in the day.
42:59
Speaker 1: They have been a prominent program my entire life. The
43:05
Speaker 1: way in which they conduct business is unique for college sports.
43:10
Speaker 1: In a day and age where these two power conferences
43:13
Speaker 1: are you know, take all these brands, make all this money.
43:17
Speaker 1: It's not exactly the NFL, but it's in that world
43:21
Speaker 1: where they kind of, you know, utilize the top brands
43:28
Speaker 1: to sell it to the television networks to make the
43:30
Speaker 1: most money possibly. Notre Dame's been able to be independent
43:33
Speaker 1: and just print cash. But last year, when the season
43:37
Speaker 1: ended and their schedule, as we've expanded conferences and as
43:42
Speaker 1: conferences have gone to nine conference games. And while it
43:45
Speaker 1: does rotate, so one year could be harder than the
43:48
Speaker 1: next year, over the course of five years, ten years
43:53
Speaker 1: in the SEC or the Big Ten, it is unavoidable
43:56
Speaker 1: to play good teams. And some years, play like three
44:00
Speaker 1: of them, and two of those three on the road.
44:03
Speaker 1: In the SEC, it's clearly happening this year. There are
44:05
Speaker 1: some schedules that are just pretty outrageous and extremely difficult.
44:10
Speaker 1: And teams are paying the price and probably a lot
44:12
Speaker 1: of teams are going to end up with nine wins. Well,
44:15
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, they do this alliance with the ACC and
44:18
Speaker 1: it's like they kind of pick and choose their games.
44:20
Speaker 1: Today they announced, we're getting out of the Purdue game.
44:23
Speaker 1: And we are adding, wait for it, Oregon, Bama, Texas, Florida, Illinois.
44:31
Speaker 1: We're adding Illinois. See, we're trying. And if I want
44:36
Speaker 1: to defend Notre Dame, I think if they just reached
44:39
Speaker 1: out to Alabama or Georgia or Texas or Ohio State,
44:46
Speaker 1: those teams moving forward will probably not play them, even
44:50
Speaker 1: in a home-and-home situation. So it can be difficult. It
44:53
Speaker 1: was like this forever, you know, in college basketball with St. Mary's,
44:58
Speaker 1: see it with Boise State. Like who wants to sign
45:01
Speaker 1: a two and one, so basically two home games and
45:05
Speaker 1: one home game there with Boise State? Nobody. Why would
45:10
Speaker 1: you want to pay Boise State multiple times that probably
45:13
Speaker 1: has a decent chance to beat you? So it can
45:15
Speaker 1: be difficult for them to schedule games. Oregon is the
45:18
Speaker 1: only team that continues to play them and they keep
45:20
Speaker 1: beating them or giving them a close game. So, this
45:27
Speaker 1: thing with Notre Dame, they have to win this week.
45:32
Speaker 1: Or else, there was some pity last year because everyone went, well,
45:37
Speaker 1: they're clearly one of the best 12 teams, but they're
45:41
Speaker 1: two good opponents. They lost both of the games. And
45:44
Speaker 1: because Miami had shit the bed in some random games
45:48
Speaker 1: and didn't go to the ACC championship game slash win it,
45:52
Speaker 1: You played them and they beat you and you can't
45:54
Speaker 1: go in over them or else these games don't matter.
45:58
Speaker 1: We saw it. They had to head and they beat you.
46:02
Speaker 1: It's like, what's going to happen this year. There are
46:04
Speaker 1: going to be teams that it's going to come down
46:06
Speaker 1: to one or two spots with two, nine and three
46:09
Speaker 1: teams or a 10 and two team. And when they
46:12
Speaker 1: have played each other, you cannot go over me when
46:16
Speaker 1: I have beat you. So if Notre Dame loses this weekend,
46:21
Speaker 1: And I'll assume they will win out in their 10-2.
46:24
Speaker 1: Nobody is going to have any sympathy for them for
46:28
Speaker 1: missing the playoffs. And eventually, and this goes back to
46:32
Speaker 1: the perception of the Brian Kelly teams that won a
46:35
Speaker 1: ton of games, had a boatload of NFL players, that
46:40
Speaker 1: it's hard to get out of our mind in some
46:42
Speaker 1: of those championship games when they played Alabama that it
46:45
Speaker 1: looked like JV versus Varsity. And clearly that gap has
46:50
Speaker 1: closed under Marcus Freeman. No one would argue that. They
46:54
Speaker 1: feel much closer to winning a national championship now than
46:57
Speaker 1: they did 10 years ago. But part of winning that
47:00
Speaker 1: national championship, this is what Saban did for years, is
47:04
Speaker 1: when I play Georgia, when I play LSU, when I
47:07
Speaker 1: play whoever in these playoffs, I got to win. And
47:11
Speaker 1: you get them at home, and I look today on Polymarket,
47:14
Speaker 1: they're five and a half point favorites. Now, I don't
47:17
Speaker 1: have Notre Dame's too deep memorized, but I was reading
47:22
Speaker 1: around today, they have a bunch of injuries. But here's
47:26
Speaker 1: the thing, this Miami team, they've been pushed to the
47:30
Speaker 1: limit against Florida State, who just fired their coach, and Belichick,
47:35
Speaker 1: who actually is not doing a terrible job. While Miami's good,
47:39
Speaker 1: and when the dust settles, could win the national championship,
47:42
Speaker 1: I think even Miami fans would agree that This is
47:46
Speaker 1: not like some all-time juggernaut Miami team. This is not
47:51
Speaker 1: that clip you see of Ed Reed and Joaquin said dominate.
47:54
Speaker 1: That roster ain't this. You could argue defensively where they
47:58
Speaker 1: have had some issues, they're missing a couple guys that
48:01
Speaker 1: both got drafted in the first round who dominated on
48:05
Speaker 1: their playoff run last year. It is difficult to replace
48:09
Speaker 1: Reuben Baines. And Mesadors. Like those guys just don't grow
48:13
Speaker 1: on trees even in the transfer portal era where you
48:15
Speaker 1: have a lot of money. Now offensively, they're pretty special.
48:18
Speaker 1: Quarterback's really good. But you get them at home in November.
48:22
Speaker 1: If you can't win this game, I think our argument
48:26
Speaker 1: for Notre Dame, it just, it gets tiresome and it
48:29
Speaker 1: falls on deaf ears with a lot of us. We
48:30
Speaker 1: just don't want to hear it. Just win the game.
48:33
Speaker 1: You go 11-1 despite your schedule not being great. Listen,
48:37
Speaker 1: you took care of business against a team that's going
48:39
Speaker 1: to be in the playoffs too. You get to go
48:41
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and then go prove yourself. This is
48:44
Speaker 1: also the hard part about setting their schedule up the
48:48
Speaker 1: way Notre Dame has. Everything falls on this one game.
48:53
Speaker 1: This year kind of too because it turned out BYU
48:55
Speaker 1: was really good. And it kind of got worked in
48:57
Speaker 1: that game. So now it puts the emphasis on this
49:00
Speaker 1: game Which is essentially their midseason Super Bowl. Because last year,
49:07
Speaker 1: it's not an apples to apples comparison, but the entire
49:12
Speaker 1: offseason and the entire part of the early season, James
49:16
Speaker 1: Franklin and Penn State had circled the Oregon game. This
49:21
Speaker 1: was our moment to beat a top five, top ten
49:24
Speaker 1: team and position ourself to finally get over the hump,
49:29
Speaker 1: make a run, and win the national championship. And then
49:33
Speaker 1: they lost the game. And then the wheels fell off.
49:36
Speaker 1: Then they lost to UCLA. Then I think they lost
49:40
Speaker 1: to Northwestern. And then James Franklin was fired. I'm not
49:44
Speaker 1: saying Marcus Freeman's going to get fired if they lose
49:46
Speaker 1: this game. But I can already see where this is going.
49:49
Speaker 1: Lose this game, get left out of the playoffs. Don't
49:53
Speaker 1: play a bowl game because our kids didn't want to.
49:56
Speaker 1: I stand by what I said last year. That was embarrassing.
49:59
Speaker 1: Not going to play a bowl game just because Jeremiah
50:00
Speaker 1: Love doesn't want to play or Darian Price. Okay, guys,
50:02
Speaker 1: you don't have to play. But we have a bunch
50:04
Speaker 1: of true freshmen on this roster. We want to play
50:06
Speaker 1: the bowl game because we get practices. We get to
50:08
Speaker 1: come together on a team. A bunch of guys are
50:10
Speaker 1: going to be on this team when you guys are gone.
50:14
Speaker 1: And Marcus Freeman was like, they wanted it. Well, I
50:16
Speaker 1: would have said, tough shit. You're the boss. You're the CEO.
50:19
Speaker 1: There are certain times in life where it's like, hey,
50:22
Speaker 1: I pay the bills in my home. What I say
50:24
Speaker 1: goes here. Doesn't mean I'm always right. And it doesn't
50:28
Speaker 1: mean I do that often. But every once in a while,
50:30
Speaker 1: you got to draw a line in the sand. And
50:32
Speaker 1: when you're a coach, that was a moment where Marcus
50:34
Speaker 1: Freeman should have overrid them. That's now in the past.
50:39
Speaker 1: And this is the present. And as a favorite at home,
50:44
Speaker 1: you can't win this game. Like, I'm sorry. You guys become,
50:49
Speaker 1: I don't want to say a fake brand, but a
50:55
Speaker 1: lot of hype without a lot of substance. Cal's answer
51:12
Speaker 1: went a little longer than I thought. I'll do a
51:14
Speaker 1: couple quick mailbag questions and then I'll save more for tomorrow.
51:20
Speaker 1: This is Michael. Although the Dolphins were one of the
51:22
Speaker 1: laughingstocks of the league going into the season, I have
51:25
Speaker 1: a feeling with Halfley that I've never felt with any
51:27
Speaker 1: coach in the last 20 plus years. What are your thoughts?
51:31
Speaker 1: I've actually bet on them a lot. And they play really,
51:36
Speaker 1: really hard. How many good players do they have? quarterback
51:44
Speaker 1: okay you know it's his team's not very good like
51:48
Speaker 1: I saw him last year with a buttoned up operation
51:50
Speaker 1: he was really good but Ollie Gordon good player him
51:55
Speaker 1: and him and Malik got into it but in terms
51:59
Speaker 1: of just effort I mean last week's a great example
52:03
Speaker 1: I bet against them and of course they score a
52:05
Speaker 1: late touchdown because they do not stop trying they just
52:09
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like they lay down but Their success
52:13
Speaker 1: is going to be created on the talent they can
52:16
Speaker 1: accumulate the next couple years. They have a long way
52:19
Speaker 1: to go. Like a long way to go. Love the pod.
52:25
Speaker 1: If you believe it isn't realistic to trade up in
52:27
Speaker 1: the draft to get a Jeremiah Smith to the Chiefs,
52:32
Speaker 1: you have mentioned Garrett Wilson before. However, the Jets have
52:35
Speaker 1: reportedly not accepted any calls regarding him. How will the
52:39
Speaker 1: Chiefs be able to build an offense then? You can draft,
52:45
Speaker 1: and who can they draft? For similar to Bills with
52:48
Speaker 1: DJ Moore or Waddle in Denver. The Chiefs need a dependable,
52:51
Speaker 1: high EQ player. So would it make sense, or I
52:56
Speaker 1: guess maybe he meant to write IQ and wrote EQ.
52:59
Speaker 1: Probably need EQ and IQ to play for the Chiefs.
53:02
Speaker 1: Drake London, Nico Collins, CeeDee Lamb, or Justin Jefferson, maybe
53:05
Speaker 1: this offseason, or maybe even a Puka. I think they'll
53:09
Speaker 1: always sniff around the big deals. The guys you listed
53:12
Speaker 1: are just not going to be available. Like, Jerry's not
53:14
Speaker 1: trading CeeDee Lamb. The Texans aren't trading Nico Collins. The
53:19
Speaker 1: Vikings aren't trading Justin Jefferson. You just... I mean, think
53:24
Speaker 1: about it. Nico Collins was not a first-round pick. CeeDee
53:28
Speaker 1: and Drake London were. Jefferson was a late first-round pick.
53:31
Speaker 1: Puka Nakua was a mid-round pick. You can... DK Metcalf,
53:36
Speaker 1: who's not good anymore, but was once upon a time, scored,
53:39
Speaker 1: I think, 29 touchdowns his first three years. AJ Brown,
53:42
Speaker 1: those guys were second-round picks. Devontae Adams, second-round pick. Keenan Allen,
53:47
Speaker 1: third-round pick. You can find guys. There's some luck involved,
53:50
Speaker 1: but you've got to hit on a mid-round pick. As
53:55
Speaker 1: a Seahawks fan watching Monday night, it seems Fleury the
53:58
Speaker 1: OC doesn't have the juice. I understand he's there and
54:02
Speaker 1: I'm at home, but it feels like a very high
54:03
Speaker 1: school offense where the majority of the plays have turned into, quote,
54:08
Speaker 1: F it, JSN is down there somewhere, quote. And we
54:12
Speaker 1: are lucky he is good as he is. Very true.
54:15
Speaker 1: I realize the other personnel is closer to okay than good.
54:18
Speaker 1: Do you think we benefit from adding help to JSN
54:21
Speaker 1: or bringing in Taylor to help for the backfield or
54:23
Speaker 1: even just accept this is where we are and move
54:26
Speaker 1: on from Fleury at the end of the season? I
54:28
Speaker 1: said this last night. I do think you got to
54:31
Speaker 1: be pretty careful. Like you've already used a third round
54:34
Speaker 1: pick on Quentin Nelson. Now, granted, they are going to get,
54:37
Speaker 1: you know, their GM leaving to Minnesota. I didn't know this,
54:40
Speaker 1: but I guess it's a minority candidate. So they get
54:42
Speaker 1: a third round pick there. They're going to get, with
54:44
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker and Boye Mafe in Cincinnati, they're going to
54:50
Speaker 1: get comp picks probably in the fourth round from those
54:52
Speaker 1: two guys. So they had an extra pick in that area.
54:57
Speaker 1: But I would be very hesitant to just go nuts
55:00
Speaker 1: on something. Because I would say there's a 50-50 chance
55:05
Speaker 1: this guy's fired after one year. No inside knowledge of that.
55:09
Speaker 1: It just feels a little off kilter. And it does
55:12
Speaker 1: feel like he doesn't have a great feel for calling plays.
55:16
Speaker 1: I don't know if they would have been criticized. I
55:18
Speaker 1: don't even know if Mike was thinking about doing this.
55:20
Speaker 1: But Shanahan recently said that Clay Kubiak is one of
55:24
Speaker 1: the best assistants he's ever had. It's Clint's brother who
55:29
Speaker 1: knows this offense as good as all these guys. It's
55:34
Speaker 1: literally the family offense. The Kubiaks and Shanahans. And he
55:37
Speaker 1: calls plays for Kyle in the preseason. I think if
55:41
Speaker 1: He could call plays for the 49ers. Now, I'm not
55:44
Speaker 1: saying he's Kyle Shanahan, but I wonder if they just
55:48
Speaker 1: hired the wrong guy. And Kyle can't block him because
55:53
Speaker 1: he's not a play caller. My question, why does Colin
55:57
Speaker 1: constantly put down the Steelers front office on your Sunday pods?
56:00
Speaker 1: Why are you asking me? Why don't you ask him?
56:03
Speaker 1: He's acting like Rodgers is the only reason they were afloat.
56:06
Speaker 1: He keeps talking about the GM downgrade. Yes, Colbert won
56:09
Speaker 1: Super Bowls, but please, look at his last three to
56:11
Speaker 1: five drafts. In present day, once Khan took over, he
56:15
Speaker 1: couldn't hit water from a boat at the end. Khan's
56:17
Speaker 1: drafting saved us. Colin, for years, asked where's our O-line
56:22
Speaker 1: and talks about our offensive spending. Well, Khan has four
56:26
Speaker 1: highly drafted young studs in the O-line, including Zach Frazier,
56:29
Speaker 1: who most of the film guys agree is currently the
56:31
Speaker 1: best center in the league. All on rookie deals. Con
56:34
Speaker 1: has acknowledged this. The defense is Hall of Famers and
56:38
Speaker 1: ascending young guys on each level. Yes, Schneider fleeced us,
56:42
Speaker 1: but he has done a really good job at GM
56:45
Speaker 1: outside of that. I would say offensively, okay, the offensive
56:50
Speaker 1: line is playing well. And who'd they just draft this year? Oregon?
56:55
Speaker 1: Was Oregon offensive line or was that last year? Who
56:57
Speaker 1: did they draft this year? Regardless. Regardless. They drafted Caleb
57:03
Speaker 1: Johnson last year, running back, who was off the team,
57:05
Speaker 1: who was a disaster. The DK Metcalf move is, like,
57:10
Speaker 1: part of the reason that's such a disaster is because
57:13
Speaker 1: he makes a lot of money. And, you know, your
57:16
Speaker 1: high-paced guys on defense... Condon draft T.J.
57:19
Speaker 2: Watt.
57:20
Speaker 1: Condon draft Cam Hayward. Like, those guys... Herbig was his pick.
57:28
Speaker 1: I just think that... I don't know. I don't know.
57:32
Speaker 1: I'm not, I don't know the guy personally. I just
57:35
Speaker 1: know a lot of people don't think that highly of him.
57:39
Speaker 1: And did Omar Khan hire Mike McCarthy or did the
57:41
Speaker 1: family hire Mike McCarthy? That'd be my other question. If
57:45
Speaker 1: you told me that Omar Khan was leading the charge
57:47
Speaker 1: on that, then I would give him credit. Okay, we'll
57:50
Speaker 1: end with this. We're halfway through the year. What are
57:53
Speaker 1: your feelings on Clint Kubiak as the Raiders head coach?
57:57
Speaker 1: I'm watching the Bears excel and take off like a
57:59
Speaker 1: rocket ship under Ben Johnson in the play calling, and
58:01
Speaker 1: I'm wondering, if there's a world where we could see
58:04
Speaker 1: the same happening for the Raiders? I know we haven't
58:07
Speaker 1: seen Fernando much yet, and I'd rather him sit and
58:10
Speaker 1: watch Kirk the rest of the year, but do you
58:13
Speaker 1: see a path where Kubiak can take this team to
58:16
Speaker 1: the next level? I'd hate to have a top five
58:20
Speaker 1: draft pick wasted on a running back. Ashton Gentry's regressing.
58:25
Speaker 1: I hate to waste a pick. Do you think that's
58:26
Speaker 1: still part of the coaching staff's plan? Well, if you
58:30
Speaker 1: think about it, Caleb, Like the version we saw in
58:34
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, he's had two and a half years
58:36
Speaker 1: building up to that. So Fernando next year, there's just
58:41
Speaker 1: going to be some growing pains. I mean, I would
58:44
Speaker 1: say you're a couple years away from even experiencing we're
58:48
Speaker 1: like a lock playoff team. That's how it kind of feels.
58:53
Speaker 1: Fernando doesn't play like Caleb either. So it's probably going
58:57
Speaker 1: to be more boring. It's going to be closer to
59:00
Speaker 1: like Jared Goff. or Matt Ryan when he was in
59:03
Speaker 1: Atlanta going well, if it goes well. like that it's
59:07
Speaker 1: gonna look more like that honestly a better version of
59:10
Speaker 1: what Cousins is doing now once you've made a draft
59:15
Speaker 1: pick like it's it's spilled milk it's water and like
59:19
Speaker 1: it's you can't change it last night after dinner I
59:25
Speaker 1: he was just going berserk sometimes you know you can
59:29
Speaker 1: I don't want to say tune-out cries, but you kind
59:31
Speaker 1: of get used to being numb to some of it.
59:34
Speaker 1: There comes a point where if he just peddled the
59:37
Speaker 1: metal for an hour straight of just crying and kind
59:40
Speaker 1: of bitching and moaning and whining with the cry voice,
59:44
Speaker 1: you just can't think straight. And I kind of screwed up,
59:46
Speaker 1: and I went to kind of wash this plate, and
59:49
Speaker 1: I dropped it. It shattered everywhere. In my first reaction,
59:53
Speaker 1: the younger version of me just would have dropped like
59:55
Speaker 1: four F-bombs. But I was like, deep breath. And everything's like,
59:59
Speaker 1: what am I going to do? Plate shattered on the ground.
1:00:01
Speaker 1: There's absolutely nothing I can do about it. I'm not
1:00:05
Speaker 1: taking a victory lap because I, I remember reading an
1:00:09
Speaker 1: article about him when he was at Boise state. And I,
1:00:11
Speaker 1: I admire at least back then his mindset, which was,
1:00:15
Speaker 1: he stayed loyal to Boise state. They recruited him when
1:00:17
Speaker 1: no one knew about him. He turned down millions of dollars,
1:00:21
Speaker 1: maybe not millions of dollars, but definitely seven figures to
1:00:24
Speaker 1: go to a big school, which I think it's, Texas
1:00:26
Speaker 1: USC type school, right? And he stayed at Boise State.
1:00:29
Speaker 1: And it paid off. He was a sixth pick in
1:00:31
Speaker 1: the draft. But I just went, if I'm taking a
1:00:36
Speaker 1: guy sixth in the draft in 2025 at running back,
1:00:41
Speaker 1: I need to go, this guy can one day be
1:00:44
Speaker 1: one of the two or three best running backs in
1:00:45
Speaker 1: the league. And he never was going to do that
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Speaker 1: if he hit. And now it's just been a nightmare.
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Speaker 1: The comments last week, it clearly pissed Kubiak off, kind
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Speaker 1: of took some shots at the defense indirectly and got
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Speaker 1: benched in this game. Is it a little bit of
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Speaker 1: a Harbaugh tactic? Hopefully it wakes him up, motivates him.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think this guy played at
1:01:09
Speaker 1: Boise where they won a lot. Now he's playing with
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Speaker 1: the Raiders. They're losing a lot. Everyone thinks he sucks.
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Speaker 1: Think about it. It's time at Boise. Everyone thought he
1:01:15
Speaker 1: was really good. Then you come to the NFL. Everyone
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Speaker 1: thinks you blow, that they blew the pick. And it's
1:01:24
Speaker 1: hard for anyone else to think otherwise. But you can't
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Speaker 1: change that. Now you can try to improve them if
1:01:31
Speaker 1: you believe there's something there. If there's not, you just
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Speaker 1: got to move on. You made a mistake. Luckily at
1:01:37
Speaker 1: that position, it's not like quarterback. You can overcome it.
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Speaker 1: You can find, was it Mike Washington Jr.? Find someone
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Speaker 1: else and just keep on rolling. And our main goal
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Speaker 1: now is to improve the defense and find wide receivers.
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Speaker 1: I think Clint's pretty impressive. I'm a fan. I think
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Speaker 1: he's going to... I think it's pretty impressive. I would
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Speaker 1: bet on it working. Now, is he going to be
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Speaker 1: Andy Reid, Sean Payton? But I think in a couple years,
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Speaker 1: partly because I believe in Fernando Mendoza, I think the
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Speaker 1: Raiders could be pretty good. I would probably bet against
1:02:16
Speaker 1: Jenty working, though. If you were sitting here right now
1:02:21
Speaker 1: on November 3rd, 2026, you would probably short that stock.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean he can't become a solid NFL starter. But it's...
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Speaker 1: It has not gone well. I mean, to say that...
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Speaker 1: He looks slow. And this is why you gotta be careful.
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Speaker 1: When you evaluate these guys at these smaller schools, and
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Speaker 1: they make these great plays against New Mexico and Washington State,
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Speaker 1: it's awesome. He had a couple highlight runs against Washington
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Speaker 1: State that were the plays of the year. How many
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Speaker 1: guys trying to tackle him in that game were going
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Speaker 1: to the NFL? Probably not one. You previously stated how
1:03:07
Speaker 1: Michaels is all out of whack and out of it.
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Speaker 1: I beg to differ, because I watched him in the
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Speaker 1: Panthers and the Packer game, and I thought he did
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Speaker 1: a good job. Or am I just trying to hold
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Speaker 1: on to old times? Can you specify why you feel differently? Well,
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Speaker 1: if you truly watch, and a lot of times on
1:03:22
Speaker 1: Thursday night, over the last, since Jack's been around, the
1:03:26
Speaker 1: volume's pretty low. But when I do kind of zone
1:03:30
Speaker 1: into him, I don't think he can see what's going on.
1:03:35
Speaker 1: And I don't know if he literally can't see because
1:03:38
Speaker 1: he probably is watching a monitor right in front of
1:03:40
Speaker 1: him more than he's looking from the press box. But
1:03:43
Speaker 1: there is just a delay, and this happened to Marv
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Speaker 1: Albert at the end of his NBA career. He didn't
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Speaker 1: know who was shooting the ball. Because as you get older, listen,
1:03:53
Speaker 1: anyone that has grandparents or older parents, there's just a
1:03:57
Speaker 1: cognitive decline. And the pace in which sports happen, that's
1:04:01
Speaker 1: why basketball would be impossible. Anyone that's ever been to
1:04:04
Speaker 1: an NBA game, and now it's never been faster. But
1:04:08
Speaker 1: the NFL, while there's a lot of downtime between plays,
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Speaker 1: once the play happens, it's pretty quick. And a lot
1:04:15
Speaker 1: of times when a guy, there was a catch in
1:04:17
Speaker 1: that Packer game that was a drop, and it took
1:04:20
Speaker 1: him like seven seconds. He's like, and he cut the ball!
1:04:23
Speaker 1: And then he kind of, because Herbstreit didn't say anything
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Speaker 1: because he knew it wasn't a catch. He's like, actually,
1:04:28
Speaker 1: he didn't, he dropped it. A lot of times he'll
1:04:31
Speaker 1: say it down and distance completely wrong, the penalties. It's
1:04:35
Speaker 1: not that he sounds different. He sounds exactly like the
1:04:39
Speaker 1: legendary voice that we've all been hearing our entire life.
1:04:44
Speaker 1: It's just that he has no clue what's going on.
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Speaker 1: I mean, none. Keep an eye on just basic things. Penalties,
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Speaker 1: who caught the ball. And I'm not some media critic.
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Speaker 1: I'm not looking for perfection. I'm not one of these
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Speaker 1: Marchands or awful announcing that goes, this guy is fucking terrible.
1:05:06
Speaker 1: The cadence of like, shut up. It's all fine. I
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Speaker 1: just think he has no clue what's happening. None. Okay,
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Speaker 1: we'll end on that. Adios. Have a great day. I'll
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Speaker 1: talk to you tomorrow. The Volume.