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Ep. 979: Foundations - How to Overcome the Gun Hunter's Dilemma · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide
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  Speaker 1: First Light Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host
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  Speaker 1: Tony Peterson.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, welcome to the Wire to Hunt Foundations podcast,
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  Speaker 2: which is brought to you by First Light. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 2: Tony Peterson, and this week I'm giving you your yearly
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  Speaker 2: reminder that gun hunting, like gun hunters, usually ends in
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  Speaker 2: unfilled tags and what you should do to not suffer
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  Speaker 2: the same fate as your orange clad brethren. All right,
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  Speaker 2: hunt public land white tails like a real man. All right,
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  Speaker 2: Enough of that, It's gun season throughout much of the country,
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  Speaker 2: and that means that most hunters of any time, any
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  Speaker 2: given point of the year are going to be in
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  Speaker 2: the woods right now. The deer gonna be scared shitless,
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  Speaker 2: and on average, about twenty to thirty percent of hunters will.
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  Speaker 3: Fill their tags.
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  Speaker 2: The rest won't, and they'll be sad about it. And
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  Speaker 2: since I don't want you guys to be sad, it's
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  Speaker 2: time to talk about how to fill those rifle and
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  Speaker 2: shotgun tags even when the going gets really, really tough.
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  Speaker 2: This will probably come as a surprise to almost no
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  Speaker 2: one who ever listens to this podcast, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: really love gun hunting. Now, you know what, that's too
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  Speaker 2: simple of a take on it. I love hunting a
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  Speaker 2: lot of stuff with guns. I just don't really love
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  Speaker 2: participating in the general gun deer season. In most places.
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  Speaker 2: This is due to a lot of reasons, but the
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  Speaker 2: one that probably sits at the top of the list
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  Speaker 2: most often is that I don't like to cross my
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  Speaker 2: fingers and hope a deer comes by. The thing I
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  Speaker 2: love about deer hunting is figuring out where they like
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  Speaker 2: to walk and then sneaking in there to see if
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  Speaker 2: I'm right. I'm often not right, but when I am,
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  Speaker 2: it's a feeling that is worth chasing from season to
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  Speaker 2: season and state to state. With general gun seasons, the
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  Speaker 2: natural movement goes largely out the window. Now, sure, if
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  Speaker 2: you have a badass spot with little to no pressure
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  Speaker 2: and it's big enough, you can certainly witness plenty of
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  Speaker 2: normal day to day deer stuff. If you don't, you won't,
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  Speaker 2: at least not quite in the way most of us
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  Speaker 2: would like. I say all of that, and now I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to say this. The general firearms season is also
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  Speaker 2: an interesting opportunity to learn about deer and to try
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  Speaker 2: to play the game of figuring out where they will go.
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  Speaker 2: The times that I've killed bucks with a rifle or hell,
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  Speaker 2: even a muzzloader have almost always felt like the bucks
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  Speaker 2: that I've killed with a bow on public land, and
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  Speaker 2: like those bow hunts for pressure deer. You know where
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  Speaker 2: this gets super duper hard is that not only do
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  Speaker 2: you have to go take a flyer on some sits,
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  Speaker 2: you have to employ the other rock solid but sucks
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  Speaker 2: a lot tactic of putting in tons of hours watching
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  Speaker 2: squirrels and praying to the deer gods to show you
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  Speaker 2: just one. This is generally too much to ask for
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  Speaker 2: most hunters, so they won't do it. But if you
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  Speaker 2: want to kill good bucks somewhat consistently and you're not
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  Speaker 2: secretly one of Elon Musk's forty seven kids, you have
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  Speaker 2: to do the work. There's just no way around this
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  Speaker 2: without lots of money and time. Now, I've talked a
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  Speaker 2: lot about how I think most firearms hunters would benefit
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  Speaker 2: greatly from just doubling their hunting locations from one to two.
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  Speaker 2: I don't mean whole parcels of land. I just mean
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  Speaker 2: going from you know, one ladder stand to two ladder stands.
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  Speaker 2: This is a good way to get your fixed with
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  Speaker 2: an old stand by where you can see a lot
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  Speaker 2: and you know some years you're gonna shoot one from it.
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  Speaker 2: But when the movement dies down to a trickle on
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  Speaker 2: that big view stand that's easy to get to goes
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  Speaker 2: totally cold.
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  Speaker 3: Having another one is just a great option. You know.
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  Speaker 2: This is the thick stuff standard blind, and it's the
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  Speaker 2: kind of location that drives a lot of hunters knots
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  Speaker 2: because they can't see very much, but if they do
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  Speaker 2: see one, they're probably gonna kill it. Most people won't
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  Speaker 2: do this, and most people won't even really consider a
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  Speaker 2: switch up. A lot of the gun hunters I know
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  Speaker 2: seem to resign themselves to sort of a lottery player
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  Speaker 2: status where they're like, well maybe this year my numbers
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  Speaker 2: will get drawn, and they play the same numbers every year.
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  Speaker 2: I have a buddy like this who has a handful
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  Speaker 2: of rifle stands in a swamp he owns in Wisconsin.
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  Speaker 2: He and his dad used to somewhat frequently shoot good bucks,
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  Speaker 2: but that has dried up the last several years. But
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  Speaker 2: they still push that program even though it rarely works.
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  Speaker 2: Now this year I hunted his and I killed a
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  Speaker 2: really nice buck with a bow in a spot that,
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  Speaker 2: as far as I can tell, was full of bucks
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  Speaker 2: because of the presence of more wolves than usual. I'll
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  Speaker 2: tell the full story on here someday, but suffice it
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  Speaker 2: to say I hung a stand after almost four full
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  Speaker 2: days of blanking, and then I saw three bucks and
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  Speaker 2: killed my biggest big woods buck in a hunt that
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  Speaker 2: would have been pretty sweet for Iowa, let alone a
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  Speaker 2: place with like eight deer per square mile. The deer
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  Speaker 2: just went where the wolves wouldn't normally go, and then,
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  Speaker 2: once there and somewhat concentrated, the old rut carried on
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  Speaker 2: and provided me with one hell of a sit. The
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  Speaker 2: deer where you rifle hunt will respond in a similar fashion,
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  Speaker 2: although they'll mostly button up their movements and stay in
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  Speaker 2: a place that, for whatever reason, you won't go. We
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  Speaker 2: all kind of know this, but we do a couple
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  Speaker 2: of things to try to get around it. The first
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  Speaker 2: is that we hope that someone in our group or
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  Speaker 2: maybe the neighbors, when they do their annual deer drive
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  Speaker 2: at noon on day two of the season, will bump
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  Speaker 2: a deer past us. Does this work, Yes, someone eventually
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  Speaker 2: wins the but it's probably not going to be you.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing we do is to try to justify
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  Speaker 2: doing what we want to do, which is not sit
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  Speaker 2: where we have no confidence, but instead to go sneak
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  Speaker 2: around and try to shoot one. Look, this comes from
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  Speaker 2: a place of heavy bias, but a good way to
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  Speaker 2: look at the deer thing is to always try to
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  Speaker 2: bowhunt them, no matter what weapon you're carrying, or in
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  Speaker 2: other words, if it wouldn't likely work very well if
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  Speaker 2: you were carrying a vertical bow, then it probably won't
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  Speaker 2: work super well if you're carrying a crossbow or a
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  Speaker 2: rifle or a shotgun fitted with the latest and greatest
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  Speaker 2: slug barrel. This is the move of a lot of people,
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  Speaker 2: and it's entirely an attempt to make something happen, because
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  Speaker 2: sitting and waiting for something to happen is too much
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  Speaker 2: to ask for a good percentage of hunters, especially after
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  Speaker 2: opening day comes and goes. But imagine this. You're a
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  Speaker 2: deer and in the week leading up to the gun season,
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  Speaker 2: a hell of a lot of two legged predators start
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  Speaker 2: to show up and poke around in your world. They
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  Speaker 2: make a lot of noise, they leave a lot of scent.
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  Speaker 2: They drive four wheelers into the clear cut, and they
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  Speaker 2: check their ladder stands, their presence becomes quickly known than
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  Speaker 2: the day before the opener, and certainly the hours before
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  Speaker 2: first light on the opener.
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  Speaker 3: There are hunters everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Every cabin is bustling with activity, Trails that see light
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  Speaker 2: to know usage for about ninety percent of the year
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  Speaker 2: suddenly have ATVs and side by sides and hunters just walking.
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  Speaker 2: And it doesn't take a rocket scientist of a deer
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  Speaker 2: to figure out that the shit is about to go down.
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  Speaker 2: And when the first whisper of shooting light breaches at
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  Speaker 2: the horizon, at least in some places I've hunted, the
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  Speaker 2: guns start going off even before it's legal shooting light.
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  Speaker 2: The deer will hear plenty of shots. The whole thing
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  Speaker 2: is just known, there's really no other way to put it,
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  Speaker 2: and the deer do what the deer do, which is
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  Speaker 2: react to that known pressure. And as the weekend progresses
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  Speaker 2: and more activity ripples its way through the woods and
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  Speaker 2: deer drives start to happen, the whole thing just gels
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  Speaker 2: into place. In my experience, this literally might take a
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  Speaker 2: few hours or a day or two, but the deer
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  Speaker 2: tend to just figure it out as you would if
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  Speaker 2: your world was suddenly inundated with something that was only
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  Speaker 2: there to try to kill you, or a whole bunch
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  Speaker 2: of somethings. Now lucky for the deer. Most people are
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  Speaker 2: highly predictable, and they can play the odds and avoid them.
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  Speaker 3: Your job is to be less predictable.
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  Speaker 2: That's a hard thing to do, so let me offer
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  Speaker 2: up a solution, or a few solutions, or I guess
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  Speaker 2: at least suggestions. The value of seeing a deer, whether
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  Speaker 2: it goes by natural or you bump it while sneaking
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  Speaker 2: along the ridge because a wander lust got the best
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  Speaker 2: of you, cannot be overstated. Just like when you're hunting
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  Speaker 2: a low density area, any glimpse of any deer is
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  Speaker 2: a huge clue. You now know where they were, so
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  Speaker 2: they have to ask yourself, why why are they there?
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking dos fawns for kis and two hundred inch
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  Speaker 2: mega giants. Why were they where they were when you
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  Speaker 2: saw them or bump them? What does their presence tell you?
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  Speaker 2: I firmly believe deer choose their spots wisely, and when
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  Speaker 2: you stumble into one of those spots when they are
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  Speaker 2: under more pressure than they will be at any other
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  Speaker 2: time of the season, they've just told you a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Is this a location that you should post up at
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  Speaker 2: and wait them out for a day or two, or
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  Speaker 2: is it a location you know, kind of like when
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  Speaker 2: you catch a really big smallmouth on a drop off
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  Speaker 2: next to an island, which gives you a chance to
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  Speaker 2: run a pattern and see if it's not just that
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  Speaker 2: that specific location is good, but a set of variables
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  Speaker 2: have come together in multiple locations to create the right
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  Speaker 2: spots all over the place. This stuff matters, just like
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  Speaker 2: it matters if one person in your group is covered
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  Speaker 2: in deer and everyone else is not seeing anything. Why
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  Speaker 2: is that person a lucky one? Is there a hot
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  Speaker 2: dough in there? Or are they in the stick of
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  Speaker 2: stuff on the farm? Or is the wind really good
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  Speaker 2: for their setup and not so much for anyone else.
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  Speaker 2: Try to figure that stuff out because it can help
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  Speaker 2: you make better decisions. And on that front, I shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: need to say this, but I'm going to anyway. You're
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  Speaker 2: hunting the hardest to kill deer of the season. If
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  Speaker 2: you don't put in a good effort, you'll fail. My
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  Speaker 2: buddy I mentioned earlier, who will not sit the stand
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  Speaker 2: I just killed out of, even though I left it
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  Speaker 2: for him, but will go into a couple of ladder
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  Speaker 2: stands that have been up for a long long time.
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  Speaker 2: He's not a bad deer hunter. He kills a lot
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  Speaker 2: of good bucks and so do his sons. But he
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  Speaker 2: might make a decision to sit a stand weeks before
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  Speaker 2: it's actually time, which means that the decision is made
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  Speaker 2: without factoring in the wind and the general weather conditions.
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  Speaker 2: That's a huge issue. I don't know too many bow
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  Speaker 2: hunters who ignore the wind completely unless they are lying
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  Speaker 2: because they have a sponsor contract for some kind of
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  Speaker 2: senn eliminated spray or some other wonder product. You can't
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  Speaker 2: ignore the wind with white tails and it kill them
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  Speaker 2: very often. Anyway, this goes beyond just factoring in predicted
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  Speaker 2: wind direction. How let's say your usual ladder standard box
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  Speaker 2: B lind setup just doesn't produce and you decide you're
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  Speaker 2: going to go find the deer and hunt them where
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  Speaker 2: they are.
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  Speaker 3: That's great. How are you going to hunt them?
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  Speaker 2: I can promise you one thing, because these companies talk
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  Speaker 2: to me a lot about it. But there aren't a
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  Speaker 2: ton of saddles or six pound hang ons being sold
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  Speaker 2: to the gun hunting crowd. Bow hunters who gun hunter
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  Speaker 2: are a different story. But for some reason, we look
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  Speaker 2: at gun hunting as a largely not mobile scenario, unless
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  Speaker 2: the mobile style we bring to the table is walking around.
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  Speaker 2: If you have a thick ass creek bottom you think
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  Speaker 2: the deer will hole up in, or some other cottontail
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  Speaker 2: friendly rabbit location, you're not likely to hunt it right
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  Speaker 2: if you walk up into it and sit on the ground,
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  Speaker 2: or you just try to still hunt through it. We
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  Speaker 2: keep trying to reinvent how to kill white tails, but
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  Speaker 2: we just aren't likely to get past the reality of
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  Speaker 2: a really good ambush set up in some good old
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  Speaker 2: fashioned patience. We all know the saying about how your
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  Speaker 2: first sit on a stand is the best hit, because
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  Speaker 2: it's generally true. I killed three pretty good bucks this year,
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  Speaker 2: and all three were on first sit stands. Two I
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  Speaker 2: had hung ahead of time, and one I hung for
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  Speaker 2: that particular evening. The last one is the most relevant
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  Speaker 2: to this rant because that's what a lot of folks
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  Speaker 2: need to do to salvage a gun season when it's
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  Speaker 2: at least twenty four hours old. So if you do
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  Speaker 2: follow this advice, and I hope you do, make a
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  Speaker 2: plan to actually truly hunt when you have a suspicion
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  Speaker 2: about where the deer have moved off to. If you
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  Speaker 2: need to scratch the itch and still hunter whatever, that's fine.
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  Speaker 2: Pay attention to the deer you bump in the fresh
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  Speaker 2: sign you find, which will usually be just tracks and droppings,
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  Speaker 2: But then make a plan to go mobile if you
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  Speaker 2: can't play the wind. Try to be really stealthy, and
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  Speaker 2: remember that you'll probably mostly get it wrong when deer
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  Speaker 2: have hunkered down. The whole thing is a close quarters
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  Speaker 2: game with a small margin for error. Barring that unicorn
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  Speaker 2: hot dough situation, they're just not going to move that much.
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  Speaker 3: But I do know one thing.
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  Speaker 2: A few times in my life when I've devoted serious
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  Speaker 2: time to hunting during the general gun season, I've killed
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  Speaker 2: good bucks that acted like bucks are supposed to. But
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  Speaker 2: they all did it in the thick cover.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Cattail slews swampy woods, overgrown home seats, places that are
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  Speaker 2: not only uninviting to us, but also allow them to
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  Speaker 2: know when we come into the cover with them.
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  Speaker 3: That's a huge key to.
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  Speaker 2: This, and figuring out how to not crash your way
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  Speaker 2: through while effectively hunting the edge and looking in is
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  Speaker 2: probably the best way to either shoot one or spot
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  Speaker 2: one that you can shoot with a revised plan. Now
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  Speaker 2: I have to say this, even though I want you
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  Speaker 2: guys to buy lots of hunting products so I don't
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  Speaker 2: have to go lay aside. But the mentality of a
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  Speaker 2: lot of struggling gun hunters isn't to go look for
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  Speaker 2: the deer, but to double down on a spot and
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  Speaker 2: try to get them to come to them. This almost
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  Speaker 2: never works, but banging rattling antlers together or putting out
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of scent wix soaked with dopey is a
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  Speaker 2: lot easier than going to look for where the deer
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  Speaker 2: are Right now, Nearly all those products really only work
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  Speaker 2: when you put yourself in close PROCs to the right bucks,
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  Speaker 2: and then you just let them give you the last
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  Speaker 2: ten percent after you've done like ninety percent of the
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  Speaker 2: heavy lifting. The efficacy of those products on deer that
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  Speaker 2: are truly scared for their lives and are very unlikely
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  Speaker 2: to travel any distance to check out a fight or
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  Speaker 2: the scent of a potential mate is very low. If
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  Speaker 2: there is one thing that I truly believe about filling
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  Speaker 2: gun tags when the going gets tough, it's that the
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  Speaker 2: best bet is to try to figure out how to
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  Speaker 2: get close to them while staying as undetected as possible,
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  Speaker 2: and then just putting in enough quiet time in those
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  Speaker 2: spots to see if you're right. I know it's not
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  Speaker 2: as fun as calling one in, but calling and calling
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  Speaker 2: without any response is a great way to not only
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  Speaker 2: never call them in, but to further burn out a
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  Speaker 2: standard is probably burned out already. So I'll bring this
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  Speaker 2: thing full circle. Think about what you and your hunting
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  Speaker 2: party are likely to do this season, and how much
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  Speaker 2: of those sits in drives and still hunts are the
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  Speaker 2: same ones that you always do. Ask yourself how often
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  Speaker 2: they work and whether they should work given the weather,
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  Speaker 2: and as much as you know about the presence of
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  Speaker 2: deer and your hunting ground. If you're not brimming with confidence,
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  Speaker 2: or you were and now a day later you're not,
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  Speaker 2: the season isn't over, even though a lot of your
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  Speaker 2: competition will mostly give up.
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  Speaker 3: Don't be like them.
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  Speaker 2: Go find the deer and then hunt the deer like
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  Speaker 2: you truly believe you can kill one at any moment,
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  Speaker 2: because you can't. Good luck out there, my friends. Stay
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  Speaker 2: safe and come back next week, because I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: talk about what I consider to be the most frustrating
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  Speaker 2: thing in modern hunting, which is the amount of money
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  Speaker 2: involved in how it has shaped us in a negative way.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Tony Peterson. This has been the Wire to Hunt
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  Speaker 2: Foundation's podcast as always, Thank you so much for listening
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  Speaker 2: and for all your support.
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  Speaker 3: If you want some more.
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  Speaker 2: Hunting content, maybe some more podcasts, maybe a video or two.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: Maybe you need a new recipe, you know, cook up
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: some backstraps on that deer you just killed. Whatever, go
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: to the medeater dot com check it out.