Latest / The You Project / #1638 Mixed Tapes, Rotary Phones & Video Players - Patrick Bonello
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I'll get a term. It's a you project. It's Patrick
- 0:03Speaker 1: James and Tiffany Anne and Craig Anthony. It's your favorite
- 0:06Speaker 1: podcast in the world. You're welcome and here we are
- 0:09Speaker 1: for free. Fuck it, We're not going to charge you
- 0:11Speaker 1: this time. You're welcome. The giggling Gerdy as my mum
- 0:16Speaker 1: would call her, giggling Gerdy. Up in the top left
- 0:18Speaker 1: corner on my screen is Tiffany Ann Cook, who doesn't
- 0:22Speaker 1: have any typ representation behind her as usual, which is
- 0:26Speaker 1: fucking shit. Hi, TIV, Well, she's on the U Project
- 0:31Speaker 1: being paid by the U Project. No U Project paraphernal.
- 0:35Speaker 1: You're behind her?
- 0:37Speaker 2: Do you know?
- 0:37Speaker 3: When it's time to do our Patrick recordings, I get
- 0:41Speaker 3: this sensation that I used to get when I was
- 0:43Speaker 3: going on a sleep over with my friends when I
- 0:46Speaker 3: was in primary school.
- 0:49Speaker 1: Fucking hell, could you expand on that a bit?
- 0:52Speaker 3: You know, it's just feel like, you know, I've packed
- 0:54Speaker 3: in my sleeping bag and we're about to get up
- 0:56Speaker 3: to mischief. When I used to do that, or I
- 0:59Speaker 3: used to me and my friend we had she had
- 1:02Speaker 3: this massive staircase that went down from the attic. It
- 1:05Speaker 3: was carpet and we used to get our sleeping bags
- 1:08Speaker 3: and make a sled out of it and go on
- 1:11Speaker 3: our knees and slide down. And we used to get
- 1:13Speaker 3: in trouble so much. And that's how I feel. I
- 1:16Speaker 3: feel like you're my new that friend.
- 1:19Speaker 1: Well, we can just slide down Patrick's METAPHORICX staircase. I
- 1:23Speaker 1: might let you two go first, because my knees might
- 1:26Speaker 1: not fucking cope.
- 1:30Speaker 4: Not I'm Patrick, but on my staircase it's a wooden
- 1:33Speaker 4: with sharp edges. You would end up with no knees,
- 1:39Speaker 4: raw timber, no cup in sight.
- 1:44Speaker 1: As life up in the sticks, up in the wilderness.
- 1:47Speaker 1: How is it up there?
- 1:48Speaker 4: It's so windy that it would blow the milk out
- 1:51Speaker 4: of your coffee.
- 1:52Speaker 2: It has been blowing a treat.
- 1:54Speaker 4: I had cuting put on the side of my garage
- 1:58Speaker 4: as my big mega rebuild because I'm setting up my
- 2:01Speaker 4: Thai cheese studio and a little podcasting area.
- 2:03Speaker 2: And insulation was there waiting for the cladding.
- 2:07Speaker 4: And then suddenly get up by morning and there's insulation
- 2:11Speaker 4: all over my neighborhood. It's just blown away. It's got
- 2:16Speaker 4: in and under the noggins and everything. Because they put
- 2:19Speaker 4: it in, they pack it in pretty tight. You know,
- 2:21Speaker 4: they don't justly fit it, they make it snug. Well not,
- 2:24Speaker 4: that's because it's everywhere and now everybody's sharing my insulation.
- 2:29Speaker 1: Do you ever think about the etymology of the word
- 2:32Speaker 1: noggin because it also it's a colloquialism for head. Yeah,
- 2:36Speaker 1: how did that come to be?
- 2:39Speaker 2: No, you know that's funny.
- 2:41Speaker 4: The builders were doing their work at one point and
- 2:43Speaker 4: they had to go in there for some reason, and
- 2:45Speaker 4: we got talking about building, and then I showed them
- 2:47Speaker 4: my hands, and I said, this is the hands of
- 2:50Speaker 4: somebody who thinks manual labor as a Mexican unionist, because
- 2:55Speaker 4: I've done these hands except type on a keyboard and
- 2:59Speaker 4: hold the mouse.
- 3:01Speaker 1: Well, you and me, You and me both, mate. I
- 3:03Speaker 1: mean I've got the hands like a fucking surgeon. That's
- 3:05Speaker 1: why God invented trades people people who are who are better. No,
- 3:11Speaker 1: I mean they're smart, they're like the crab is. The
- 3:15Speaker 1: crab is super handy. Like I always say, if you're
- 3:17Speaker 1: ever going to get stuck on an island or lost
- 3:19Speaker 1: in the wilderness, do it with a crab because he
- 3:22Speaker 1: will build you a house by lunchtime, and I will
- 3:25Speaker 1: probably kill you and eat you so you know, just
- 3:30Speaker 1: pick your friends.
- 3:33Speaker 3: Choose I'd have to choose two people that I would
- 3:35Speaker 3: have to choose you to make sure that the crab
- 3:37Speaker 3: stays alive. Hahaps the lifeline perhaps the life line.
- 3:42Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, you did the whole life him,
- 3:46Speaker 2: didn't you?
- 3:47Speaker 1: Who are you? You know? You know in American culture
- 3:52Speaker 1: they talk about a little bit. They have this this
- 3:55Speaker 1: when they're talking about friends, they say, my ride or die.
- 3:59Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of that term? Like Patrick's might
- 4:01Speaker 1: ride or die? And it just means like, if I
- 4:06Speaker 1: ever need anyone, he's my guy or she's my girl. Right,
- 4:10Speaker 1: It's like, if I have to go to war, I'm
- 4:12Speaker 1: taking Patrick. Now, who's your person? Patrick? Who's your ride
- 4:18Speaker 1: or die? Other than us two? Which are obvious choices
- 4:20Speaker 1: one and two? Me one tif two? Of course, who's
- 4:25Speaker 1: your right or die?
- 4:26Speaker 5: That person that because I love this idea of someone
- 4:30Speaker 5: that it wouldn't matter if your life was going great
- 4:32Speaker 5: or shit, that you could ring them and you know
- 4:37Speaker 5: that it doesn't matter what's in it for them, there's
- 4:40Speaker 5: nothing in it for them.
- 4:41Speaker 1: They're going to show up.
- 4:42Speaker 4: I've got a good maid of mine who actually is
- 4:44Speaker 4: now in Europe, and landed this morning and was just
- 4:48Speaker 4: texting me at the baggage carry a place because Edie's
- 4:50Speaker 4: girlfriend are there and I think Tom's got me at
- 4:53Speaker 4: I hit a kangaroo just maybe three months after buying
- 4:57Speaker 4: the first brand new carb ever board. Well, Thomas, you
- 5:00Speaker 4: can ring at two am in the morning and he
- 5:02Speaker 4: will come out with his four wheel drive and rescue you.
- 5:05Speaker 4: So he's a go to guy. But I've got to
- 5:08Speaker 4: say this. A friend of mine, her husband is the
- 5:11Speaker 4: most practical person.
- 5:12Speaker 2: I think a bit like the crab.
- 5:14Speaker 4: He told me once he was out in the middle
- 5:15Speaker 4: of the bush, got a flat tire and no problem,
- 5:18Speaker 4: changes the flat, then got another flat tire. Do you
- 5:20Speaker 4: know how he keeps driving? He put grass inside it.
- 5:25Speaker 4: He just stuffed it inside the tire. You know you
- 5:28Speaker 4: get the outer harder layer and hump up bit. Well,
- 5:31Speaker 4: he just shoved it full of grass and he was
- 5:33Speaker 4: able to drive on it. Who would think of doing that?
- 5:36Speaker 6: Not me?
- 5:37Speaker 1: I would have been dead and the animals would have
- 5:40Speaker 1: been feasting on my rotting carcass by lunchtime the next day.
- 5:44Speaker 1: Who's your right or die? Tif that you'll go to
- 5:46Speaker 1: You're in the middle of any situation they're the person
- 5:50Speaker 1: for you that you could rely on.
- 5:52Speaker 3: Late Corney Devine. She lives in Perth now, but oh
- 5:55Speaker 3: my god, luck she it would be capable of doing
- 5:59Speaker 3: absolutely anything anything.
- 6:02Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 6:02Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a Swiss Army knife of humans.
- 6:08Speaker 1: There's this movie with Ben Affleck I think it's called
- 6:10Speaker 1: The Town Ben Affleck and Jeremy Renner, and there's this
- 6:14Speaker 1: scene in it where Ben Affleck walks into this room
- 6:19Speaker 1: and Jeremy Renner is sitting in a chair. I think
- 6:21Speaker 1: they're either brothers or best mates, and Ben Affleck says
- 6:25Speaker 1: something like, Okay, I need you. We've got to go.
- 6:29Speaker 1: We've got to hurt some people. We've got to hurt
- 6:32Speaker 1: some people. It won't be pretty and we can never
- 6:35Speaker 1: talk about it ever again. And Jeremy Renner goes, whose
- 6:38Speaker 1: car are we taking? I'm like, I love that. I'm
- 6:47Speaker 1: not one for violence, but I just love that scene.
- 6:52Speaker 1: All right, mate, let's talk about let's talk about the
- 6:55Speaker 1: stuff that you're here for. What do you want to
- 6:57Speaker 1: enlighten us with today?
- 6:59Speaker 4: I need to ask you all to remove your phones
- 7:01Speaker 4: from the room. Can you just take them out and
- 7:03Speaker 4: hide them somewhere out of earshot?
- 7:05Speaker 2: This is really important.
- 7:06Speaker 4: Because we don't want anybody listening to what we're talking about.
- 7:09Speaker 2: I'll wait a minute, run, don't we I.
- 7:12Speaker 1: Was actually about to walk out and put my phone
- 7:14Speaker 1: out on the fucking stairs.
- 7:16Speaker 2: I saw you're reaching for it.
- 7:18Speaker 1: I'm I'm holding it. I'm like, oh, okay.
- 7:21Speaker 4: Well, we've all been in this situation where we've been
- 7:25Speaker 4: with people and they've said, oh, I was using my phone.
- 7:29Speaker 4: I was talking to people the other day, and all
- 7:31Speaker 4: of a sudden, when I got onto my phone, ads
- 7:34Speaker 4: start serving up on things we were talking about. I've
- 7:36Speaker 4: never searched for them before, but I'm talking about cladding.
- 7:39Speaker 4: All of a sudden, I'm getting ads for cladding. I'm
- 7:41Speaker 4: talking about a new car, Suddenly ads for new cars.
- 7:43Speaker 4: Now it's you know, it wasn't an urban myth. Have
- 7:47Speaker 4: you had that happen to you before, Suddenly ads coming up? Well,
- 7:50Speaker 4: evidently this is a one of Facebook's major partners. So
- 7:56Speaker 4: an advertising agency has reported admitted that they actually listen
- 8:03Speaker 4: to people and spy on their conversations through smartphones, and
- 8:07Speaker 4: they curate ads based on the conversations. Now, this is
- 8:14Speaker 4: it's not just a random kind of article that was published.
- 8:18Speaker 4: And the thing is that when you think about it,
- 8:21Speaker 4: when you give access to an app on your phone,
- 8:24Speaker 4: you have the option to say, give access to my
- 8:27Speaker 4: photos and microphones while I'm using the phone.
- 8:30Speaker 2: You know, when you give permission.
- 8:32Speaker 4: So technically, yes, if you've given permission to Facebook and
- 8:36Speaker 4: Instagram to access your microphone and photos, then that's what
- 8:42Speaker 4: the go is.
- 8:42Speaker 2: But this is a new report.
- 8:44Speaker 4: It's from an organization called four oho four Media and
- 8:47Speaker 4: they reckon. They've got a hold of documents that were
- 8:50Speaker 4: leaked to them and one of their reporters, and it's
- 8:54Speaker 4: called active Listening and it's software that uses they know AI.
- 9:00Speaker 2: We talk about AI all the time, but it captures.
- 9:03Speaker 4: Real time what they call intent data by listening to conversations.
- 9:10Speaker 4: This is a frightening thought. I mean, I don't actually
- 9:13Speaker 4: have Facebook on my phone. I do have Insta though,
- 9:15Speaker 4: so potentially they still could be listening. But isn't that
- 9:19Speaker 4: a really frightening prospect that your phones could be spying
- 9:22Speaker 4: on you?
- 9:24Speaker 3: Well?
- 9:24Speaker 1: Think about also yet, one fucking yes, Patrick, Two, Like,
- 9:29Speaker 1: how many of us read the terms and terms of agreement?
- 9:33Speaker 1: Like when it's like I buy a new app, right
- 9:37Speaker 1: and there's seventy two pages of like agree tick next,
- 9:42Speaker 1: like you don't know what you just agreed to. I'd
- 9:45Speaker 1: love the There's probably no actual real data on how
- 9:48Speaker 1: many people read that shit go through it, and even
- 9:51Speaker 1: if you did read it, how much would you totally understand?
- 9:55Speaker 1: But I guess we are unwittingly be becoming accomplices in
- 10:00Speaker 1: they're endeavors to spy on us because we accept it.
- 10:04Speaker 4: And we give it away for free. Because we're getting
- 10:07Speaker 4: it for free. You know, use Google, it's free, we
- 10:10Speaker 4: use Facebook, it's free. So all of these features and
- 10:13Speaker 4: all of these big multi trillion dollar companies are giving
- 10:17Speaker 4: us this stuff for free.
- 10:19Speaker 2: There's got to be a payoff somewhere.
- 10:21Speaker 4: So the leaked documents evidently from an organization called the
- 10:25Speaker 4: Cox Media Group and the TV Radio Giant, but their
- 10:30Speaker 4: clients include Facebook, Amazon, Google, so the big advertising trio
- 10:38Speaker 4: going on there. So it does make you really wonder
- 10:42Speaker 4: and I don't know, a bit paranoid. We should turn
- 10:45Speaker 4: our phones off regularly, and that's a good thing, even
- 10:47Speaker 4: from an operational perspective, that it's good to turn your
- 10:51Speaker 4: phones off and on on a regular basis as well,
- 10:54Speaker 4: But it's and I mean powering it down, not just
- 10:56Speaker 4: turning it off and on powering. It's another way to
- 10:59Speaker 4: apply all the fixes and all the software updates as well.
- 11:03Speaker 2: You need to turn your phone off to do that.
- 11:05Speaker 2: But yeah, so there you go. Folks, room careful what
- 11:08Speaker 2: you're saying.
- 11:09Speaker 4: If you happen to be working for Asio, you might
- 11:11Speaker 4: want to just consider getting a dumb phone, not a smartphone.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Can I share an anecdote that's it's related, but it's not. Yeah,
- 11:21Speaker 1: So here's here's my story. Notice I didn't wait for
- 11:24Speaker 1: permission from either from of you, but thank you. So
- 11:29Speaker 1: now this is going to sound like I'm making it up,
- 11:31Speaker 1: but this is true. This is absolutely hand on heart true.
- 11:35Speaker 1: So not yesterday, the day before I was talking to
- 11:39Speaker 1: I was on the phone talking to a friend of mine, Russ,
- 11:42Speaker 1: who you both know. Russ my friend, and we were
- 11:45Speaker 1: talking about the perception of value. Like one of my
- 11:51Speaker 1: just little quirky fascinations is the psychology of value. How
- 11:57Speaker 1: people will pay, you know, ten thousand dollars for a
- 12:00Speaker 1: sketch that some person did on a surveyette because that
- 12:03Speaker 1: person's famous. But I could do a relatively brilliant piece
- 12:07Speaker 1: of art that people wouldn't pay one hundred bucks for
- 12:11Speaker 1: because I'm not an artist, you know, so that whole
- 12:13Speaker 1: the psychology of oh but you know, and we're talking
- 12:16Speaker 1: about this, and I said, and we're talking about like
- 12:19Speaker 1: even down to so if Tiff goes and does a
- 12:23Speaker 1: corporate event, So TIFF's profile and brand has grown, the
- 12:29Speaker 1: perception of value around her has grown in the last
- 12:32Speaker 1: few years since she's gone from not doing corporate to
- 12:36Speaker 1: doing corporate. She's getting bigger and better, more well known,
- 12:39Speaker 1: more in demand. So her hourly rate is going up. Now,
- 12:42Speaker 1: her hourly rate might go up exponentially, like times five,
- 12:47Speaker 1: while her skill goes up times two, right, which is
- 12:52Speaker 1: this is normal? And I was giving this example to
- 12:56Speaker 1: Russ and I said, look, imagine, imagine if Banksy. You
- 13:01Speaker 1: two know who Banksy the artist is.
- 13:03Speaker 2: Yeah, of course absolutely.
- 13:04Speaker 1: If do you know who banks is, it doesn't matter.
- 13:07Speaker 1: So Patrick and a lot of our listeners do. So
- 13:09Speaker 1: he's a very well known kind of street artist, and
- 13:13Speaker 1: no one knows who he is. And anyway, so I said,
- 13:17Speaker 1: imagine if I did a Banksye and it was it
- 13:20Speaker 1: was identical, like, let's just say it was the same painting.
- 13:25Speaker 1: And so Banksy did a Banksy and then I did
- 13:28Speaker 1: one and it was on the same material and it
- 13:30Speaker 1: was identical, and people would pay one hundred grand for
- 13:36Speaker 1: Banksy's banksy, but they wouldn't pay one hundred bucks for
- 13:39Speaker 1: my banksy.
- 13:40Speaker 2: Right to clean it off exactly.
- 13:45Speaker 1: Anyway, we're having this conversation about, you know, perception of
- 13:49Speaker 1: value and what people think they're getting and what they'll
- 13:52Speaker 1: pay for. So it's what they think they're getting versus
- 13:56Speaker 1: what they're getting. Now, while I'm on the phone to
- 14:01Speaker 1: get I can hear a chime a message, and I'm like, oh,
- 14:04Speaker 1: it's from the Crab. Of course, the Crab sends me
- 14:07Speaker 1: fifty things a day, usually conspiracy theories. But anyway, I
- 14:11Speaker 1: get off the phone and I go, this is not
- 14:14Speaker 1: a fucking word of a lie. I get off my
- 14:16Speaker 1: phone and the crabs sent me this thing. And it's
- 14:20Speaker 1: about this dude. It's a true story. I've got the video.
- 14:23Speaker 1: I can send it to both you. It's about this
- 14:27Speaker 1: guy at this it's almost like a Victoria market thing
- 14:30Speaker 1: where there's this market. There's this old guy and he's
- 14:33Speaker 1: got this stall and he's selling in inverted Comma's original bankses. Right,
- 14:39Speaker 1: so he's got about twenty Banksies and he's selling them
- 14:42Speaker 1: all for like sixty bucks each, and people are coming
- 14:46Speaker 1: along and like not fucking real, and they're haggling with him.
- 14:50Speaker 1: They look good but and you know, so this lady
- 14:53Speaker 1: bought a couple for thirty dollars each. She bargained him down,
- 14:57Speaker 1: and as it turned out, it was an experiment that
- 15:00Speaker 1: himself had organized. And they were all authentic bankses, right,
- 15:06Speaker 1: So all of the art was original and authentic. But
- 15:10Speaker 1: because of the context, which is an old bloke at
- 15:14Speaker 1: a market and he was telling everyone these are real,
- 15:18Speaker 1: these are authentic, nobody believed him. Nobody would pay for them.
- 15:23Speaker 1: And then this lady who happened to be I think
- 15:25Speaker 1: from New Zealand, she bought the two for thirty dollars each.
- 15:29Speaker 1: She sold each of those thirty dollars purchases for one
- 15:32Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars Eachah. Now that tells you now that
- 15:40Speaker 1: that's what fucking fascinates me about the human brain, the
- 15:44Speaker 1: mind perception value. What you think, You've literally got a
- 15:48Speaker 1: real Banksy that you can buy for sixty dollars and
- 15:52Speaker 1: you're saying no. Yet the other person who thinks that it
- 15:57Speaker 1: is a real banks he might think it's a bargain
- 15:59Speaker 1: for fifty thousand dollars. So fucking how amazing is that?
- 16:04Speaker 1: And that was while I was on the phone to
- 16:06Speaker 1: Russ talking about fraudulent banks. Is that the crab sent that?
- 16:10Speaker 1: I went to the gym and I told him. He's like,
- 16:12Speaker 1: that's fucking I go. I don't.
- 16:13Speaker 4: I can't even explain that. That's because the crab is
- 16:16Speaker 4: listening in. He's obviously got spywear on your phone and
- 16:19Speaker 4: he just listens to it.
- 16:20Speaker 1: Obviously, the crab is Facebook.
- 16:22Speaker 4: Is Facebook's the metab.
- 16:27Speaker 3: The crab.
- 16:29Speaker 1: The crabs is about as high tech as a bowl
- 16:32Speaker 1: of fruit.
- 16:35Speaker 2: He's the guy.
- 16:38Speaker 1: I love the crab. The crab.
- 16:40Speaker 2: What he lacks in technology, he makes up for him.
- 16:42Speaker 3: Personality is the crab.
- 16:46Speaker 1: Yeah, Vin and the Crab.
- 16:48Speaker 2: I'm lucky.
- 16:48Speaker 1: I've got a couple.
- 16:49Speaker 2: Me too.
- 16:50Speaker 1: I'm bin's my ride or die. The crab is I've
- 16:54Speaker 1: got a few, you know, like those guys. There's one
- 16:58Speaker 1: guy that used to work for me. His name's Aaron.
- 17:00Speaker 1: We'll get off this in a moment. He knows who
- 17:03Speaker 1: he is and he's just the You remember Asa from
- 17:09Speaker 1: Harper's Patrick, Aaron, you'd know him. This guy is just
- 17:16Speaker 1: the most loyal fucking hard, Like if you go, if
- 17:21Speaker 1: I rang him and go mate, you and I go
- 17:22Speaker 1: on a war. He's like, I'll be there in ten minutes.
- 17:25Speaker 2: You know.
- 17:25Speaker 1: It's just like that that same bed affleck Jeremy Rana thing.
- 17:29Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm lucky, I've got about I don't have
- 17:33Speaker 1: heaps of friends, I reckon, I have ten good friends
- 17:35Speaker 1: in the world, like really good. And then there's a
- 17:38Speaker 1: big dropper. Yeah, but I'm happy with my ten.
- 17:44Speaker 2: I'm wondering where Tiff and.
- 17:46Speaker 1: You two have.
- 17:47Speaker 5: Gone to.
- 17:50Speaker 4: Drop.
- 17:50Speaker 3: It's a big drop. If I'm eleven, I may as
- 17:53Speaker 3: well just pack up the bag.
- 17:55Speaker 1: She's adding up all my friends. Now she's going, Okay,
- 17:58Speaker 1: there's Russ, there's Melissa, there's the there's been there's not
- 18:01Speaker 1: many spots left. What about nine?
- 18:05Speaker 2: Tip? What did you get to nine?
- 18:07Speaker 1: And it's you or me?
- 18:09Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 18:10Speaker 3: Here for this spot?
- 18:11Speaker 2: Should unscrewed, youre bastards.
- 18:15Speaker 1: Let's keep moving forward.
- 18:18Speaker 4: Talking about money and value and all that sort of stuff.
- 18:21Speaker 4: There's an interesting article I read this week about why
- 18:25Speaker 4: Australians are falling victim to subscription traps. So while I
- 18:31Speaker 4: was sitting waiting for the show to start, I jumped
- 18:34Speaker 4: into my bank account, and I thought, how many things
- 18:36Speaker 4: have I subscribed to? And I'm not talking about work
- 18:39Speaker 4: related stuff, this is just social stuff. And because I
- 18:43Speaker 4: watched TV or streaming, maybe I'm lucky to watch two
- 18:47Speaker 4: nights a week.
- 18:48Speaker 2: I'm pretty busy.
- 18:49Speaker 4: I don't turn the TV on it mainly just the weekends.
- 18:52Speaker 4: Or I flick through a bit of YouTube. And so
- 18:54Speaker 4: I looked through my subscriptions Prime Paramount, Amazon, YouTube, Apple
- 18:59Speaker 4: Plus and Order book Right seventy dollars ninety five. So
- 19:03Speaker 4: seventy one bucks a month is going to services where
- 19:06Speaker 4: I may use one of them all week. And the
- 19:10Speaker 4: problem is, see, I've done it well. I do a
- 19:13Speaker 4: bit of sharing with some friends. I'm later I shouldn't
- 19:15Speaker 4: admit that, should I? But the problem is I don't
- 19:18Speaker 4: want to drop off because I want Disney through one
- 19:20Speaker 4: of my friends, and she supplies Disney, and my brother
- 19:23Speaker 4: and sister in law provide Netflix. So we do a
- 19:27Speaker 4: spot for the other services, so I feel obliged not
- 19:30Speaker 4: to cancel them because other people are allying them.
- 19:33Speaker 2: So other people are.
- 19:34Speaker 4: Using my subscriptions and I don't use them because I
- 19:38Speaker 4: want to use their subscriptions that I don't use.
- 19:42Speaker 1: I think you just admitted to a I'm just writing
- 19:45Speaker 1: down mine. I've got Amazon, Netflix, Stan, Apple, Audible Chat
- 19:53Speaker 1: GPT four is like twenty five a month or something,
- 19:57Speaker 1: and that's off. That's six off the top of my head.
- 20:00Speaker 1: What about YouTube?
- 20:01Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got the most intense spreadsheet of my life
- 20:06Speaker 3: that tells me every dollar I earn. Ever, it's color
- 20:09Speaker 3: coded in categories, whether it's a business subscription or a
- 20:12Speaker 3: life subscription. I've got Netflix and Audible. Netflix comes on
- 20:18Speaker 3: and off throughout the year. It's currently on, and the
- 20:21Speaker 3: rest of my subscriptions are all under the business category.
- 20:24Speaker 3: So I'm pretty good, maybe because I don't have a lie.
- 20:29Speaker 3: I don't watch the Netflix, but I do this in
- 20:30Speaker 3: Audible a lot.
- 20:32Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.
- 20:33Speaker 1: You know the moment that I get rid of it,
- 20:35Speaker 1: then I want to watch something and I'm like ill.
- 20:37Speaker 1: Just it's like the gym membership that you're always I know,
- 20:40Speaker 1: I'm not going at the moment, but I'll be going soon,
- 20:45Speaker 1: you know, Jim Owners rely on that, that idea that
- 20:48Speaker 1: people have that they'll be back at the gym soon.
- 20:51Speaker 1: It's not today, but it'll be soon. So I'll keep
- 20:53Speaker 1: paying my subscription calories.
- 20:56Speaker 3: Knowing you have a subscription to the gym.
- 20:59Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 21:00Speaker 2: No gim owner wants all their members to turn up
- 21:02Speaker 2: at once.
- 21:05Speaker 1: I remember seeing this sign out the front of Snap
- 21:08Speaker 1: where I train, and it said something like it was
- 21:11Speaker 1: trying to get people through the door, and it was like,
- 21:13Speaker 1: thinking about getting in shape doesn't actually burn any calories
- 21:17Speaker 1: or something like that, but ironically it does. Cognition is
- 21:21Speaker 1: the most expensive like energy consumer. It's like twenty percent
- 21:26Speaker 1: of our energy per day goes on cognitions. So the brain,
- 21:31Speaker 1: which weighs about one point three kilos, think about that. That's,
- 21:35Speaker 1: you know, maybe one and a half percent of a
- 21:37Speaker 1: typical person's weight, one and a half percent, and it
- 21:40Speaker 1: uses twenty percent of our energy. That's a very expensive
- 21:44Speaker 1: data processor.
- 21:47Speaker 2: Certainly is certainly is, Hey, Patrick.
- 21:50Speaker 1: It can be less interesting. I know Patrick Sice. Everyone.
- 21:55Speaker 1: Let me describe Patrick. Everyone. He's got his hands behind
- 21:58Speaker 1: his head with his eyes glazed. He's reading something and
- 22:02Speaker 1: then it comes in. I didn't he didn't pay attention to.
- 22:08Speaker 4: I was thinking that I need to exercise more because
- 22:11Speaker 4: to make up for the less brain work.
- 22:15Speaker 1: Oh that is funny.
- 22:16Speaker 2: I was just thinking people.
- 22:18Speaker 1: Like this, people like this show. I wonder why it's
- 22:21Speaker 1: so fucking people go, oh you, Tif and Patrick, that's
- 22:24Speaker 1: the favorite. I'm like, why not.
- 22:27Speaker 2: Using any calories listening? Are they?
- 22:30Speaker 1: No? No? Sorry, mate, go ahead.
- 22:35Speaker 4: So I was getting back to the subscriptions, and I
- 22:37Speaker 4: just it made me realize that if you're really canny
- 22:40Speaker 4: about this, because I've got a friend of mine, what
- 22:42Speaker 4: they do is they drop in and drop out and
- 22:44Speaker 4: they binge, so they'll drop out of the membership, they'll
- 22:47Speaker 4: sign up again, get a free month or a free fortnight,
- 22:50Speaker 4: binge for that fortnight, and then turn it off and
- 22:53Speaker 4: they pay nothing And here am I and here are
- 22:55Speaker 4: we or forking out like you know, one hundred bucks
- 22:58Speaker 4: a month.
- 22:58Speaker 2: But I think you need to be a bit smarter.
- 23:00Speaker 4: I guess about those subscriptions because it can bite you
- 23:03Speaker 4: in the pocket.
- 23:04Speaker 2: And while everyone's trying to tighten the belt.
- 23:05Speaker 4: A little bit, I thought it was a really good
- 23:07Speaker 4: idea to maybe have a bit of a look, set
- 23:09Speaker 4: up a spreadsheet. So I did a spreadsheet. I'm pretty
- 23:11Speaker 4: proud of myself. TIF, you'd be proud of me. It's
- 23:13Speaker 4: color coated as well. The line figure is in green
- 23:17Speaker 4: with red.
- 23:17Speaker 2: Letters, So there you go. That stands out.
- 23:20Speaker 1: What's the one thing that each of you knowingly waste
- 23:25Speaker 1: money on? And by waste money, I just mean spend
- 23:27Speaker 1: money on something that it maybe it gives you joy,
- 23:30Speaker 1: but you don't need it. It's like, what's the what's
- 23:33Speaker 1: the like? For me? Clearly it's fucking motorbikes, right, I
- 23:36Speaker 1: just have historically waste wasted stupid money on things I
- 23:40Speaker 1: often don't ride. What about you, tif, what's your what's
- 23:44Speaker 1: your number one money wasted?
- 23:47Speaker 3: I'd say, well, that motorbike I bought hits the list.
- 23:51Speaker 3: But aside from that, I do like to eat out.
- 23:54Speaker 3: So when I eat out, like breakfast in that I
- 23:57Speaker 3: don't go for the cheapest just to be you know,
- 24:00Speaker 3: because I love eating. I think I've always invested in
- 24:04Speaker 3: eating out.
- 24:06Speaker 1: I love it. Well, that's that's not a waste though,
- 24:08Speaker 1: because it gives you joy.
- 24:10Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's always with people.
- 24:12Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think that's a good investment. What about you, Patrick.
- 24:15Speaker 4: James, I'm a bit of a sucker for gadgets, you know,
- 24:18Speaker 4: tooth cleaning stuff.
- 24:23Speaker 3: That's on the list.
- 24:26Speaker 4: Just for those people who don't remember I talk tip
- 24:28Speaker 4: into buying the miracle bloody teeth whitening cleaning thirty seconds
- 24:33Speaker 4: the top and bottom.
- 24:34Speaker 2: And it was shit, wasn't it.
- 24:36Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 24:36Speaker 3: Appreciate only sixty bucks.
- 24:39Speaker 2: Actually, I might only cost me thirty bucks. Now.
- 24:44Speaker 4: Look, I'm a bit of a sucker for gadgets. I
- 24:47Speaker 4: love gadgets. But the other thing that's I feel really
- 24:50Speaker 4: funny admitting this. I bought a fountain pen in Europe
- 24:56Speaker 4: for a thousand. In your ows, it's not yeah, yeah, that's.
- 25:02Speaker 1: Fountain peen thousand and that's like two thousand Australian dollars right.
- 25:06Speaker 2: A little bit less, but yeah close. Yeah.
- 25:08Speaker 4: Well what had happened was I've got some free accommodation
- 25:11Speaker 4: while I was traveling. I had all these euros burning
- 25:13Speaker 4: a hole in my pocket, and a friend of mine
- 25:15Speaker 4: who really loves to encourage me to buy stuff, and
- 25:19Speaker 4: I was at the airport and I saw I fell
- 25:22Speaker 4: in love with this pen.
- 25:23Speaker 2: It was. It's a beautiful, beautiful, handcrafted fountain pen. It
- 25:27Speaker 2: was a limited release, one of only twenty five. And
- 25:32Speaker 2: I love writing with a fountain pen. I write with
- 25:33Speaker 2: one every day. It's you know, I have a month
- 25:36Speaker 2: long fountain pen. And anyway, so yeah, so I bought
- 25:39Speaker 2: a pen.
- 25:39Speaker 4: It was probably the most frivolous act of spending extreme
- 25:44Speaker 4: spending up everyone.
- 25:46Speaker 1: All right, let's let's do a one eighty on that,
- 25:48Speaker 1: and let's go, what's the thing that you bought that
- 25:54Speaker 1: could have potentially been shit which turned out to be
- 25:57Speaker 1: a great investment, like the one where it might have
- 26:01Speaker 1: been just something you bought and you went, fuck, this
- 26:03Speaker 1: is really good. It only I'm actually throwing myself under
- 26:07Speaker 1: the bus here. But Tiff bought me these gear thing is,
- 26:11Speaker 1: which I don't have in at the moment. Sorry, Tiff,
- 26:13Speaker 1: I just forgot. But I think they're only like thirty
- 26:16Speaker 1: bucks or something, Thank you, Tiff. But they're really fucking good,
- 26:20Speaker 1: like but thirty dollars a really good investment. So yeah,
- 26:26Speaker 1: I'm very I didn't even pay for those, so for me,
- 26:29Speaker 1: that was zero, so fucking best of all time? Thanks TIV.
- 26:33Speaker 1: What about you, Patrick?
- 26:35Speaker 4: I was trying to think of stuff that hasn't really
- 26:38Speaker 4: cost a lot of money, that brings a lot of
- 26:40Speaker 4: joy or is really useful.
- 26:42Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm struggling a little bit. I don't know.
- 26:45Speaker 4: I tend to As I said, gadgets are such a
- 26:48Speaker 4: big part of my spend. I did buy something, you know,
- 26:53Speaker 4: I get sucked into stuff all the time. I bought
- 26:55Speaker 4: a thing called a rock block once on one of
- 26:58Speaker 4: those crowdfunding websites, and what it was was a rectangle.
- 27:03Speaker 4: It was a record player, but instead of you putting
- 27:06Speaker 4: the vinyl on top, you know, and a needle on
- 27:09Speaker 4: top and play a record normally, it was like a
- 27:11Speaker 4: little car with a needle with a Bluetooth connection and
- 27:14Speaker 4: it drove around the record.
- 27:17Speaker 1: OK when you said rock block, I thought you said
- 27:21Speaker 1: something else. But okay, okay, tipfoot about you.
- 27:27Speaker 3: Mine is this bad boy all right here? Remarkable. It
- 27:31Speaker 3: was cost me a fortune. It was like seven hundred
- 27:33Speaker 3: bucks or something. But I love I loved it. I
- 27:37Speaker 3: love it.
- 27:38Speaker 1: Tell people what we'll tell people what it is and
- 27:41Speaker 1: the application because maybe someone needs Do you know who
- 27:44Speaker 1: told me yesterday? She the exact same words were Karly Taylor.
- 27:49Speaker 1: She got one from Paul for I think her birthday
- 27:52Speaker 1: and she absolutely loves it.
- 27:54Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 27:54Speaker 3: It's just a it's a digital notebook and or a
- 27:58Speaker 3: digital paper. I don't know what you call it, but
- 28:01Speaker 3: ink ink yeah, and no other functions. So not an iPad,
- 28:05Speaker 3: no notifications, no bullshit. It just replaces a pen and paper.
- 28:11Speaker 2: Book.
- 28:11Speaker 3: It's brilliant. It's so good, but.
- 28:14Speaker 1: People are gone, So what why don't I just use
- 28:16Speaker 1: a pen and paper. I think you're not telling the
- 28:18Speaker 1: whole story.
- 28:18Speaker 3: Well, because you don't have to. You don't have shit everywhere.
- 28:22Speaker 3: You can file it away if you can, you can
- 28:24Speaker 3: pay it.
- 28:25Speaker 1: But you're not telling people that you can upload it
- 28:27Speaker 1: and stuff. Right.
- 28:28Speaker 3: Well, I was getting to that but interrupting you. If
- 28:32Speaker 3: you pay the subscription, which I did for a while
- 28:34Speaker 3: and then I stopped, you can email directly from it.
- 28:37Speaker 3: You can change your handwriting into text. It's got different
- 28:41Speaker 3: formats and backgrounds. And I have got an email yesterday
- 28:45Speaker 3: talking about some exciting new release which I didn't read
- 28:48Speaker 3: because I still love the one I've got and I
- 28:49Speaker 3: don't want to get sucked into buying something new. But
- 28:51Speaker 3: they've probably innovated it further. Now I've got the Remarkable too,
- 28:55Speaker 3: but for just a simple basic thing that seems really
- 28:59Speaker 3: expensive for what you're getting. Like as soon as I
- 29:02Speaker 3: got I thought I'm going to have buyer's remorse, but
- 29:04Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure there was a pretty lengthy return policy,
- 29:07Speaker 3: which is why I got it. And as soon as
- 29:09Speaker 3: I got it, I went, this is a just to
- 29:11Speaker 3: have a clean desk, not having bits of paper everywhere
- 29:14Speaker 3: for all your note taking so good.
- 29:18Speaker 1: I'm going to shut up after this and let Patrick
- 29:20Speaker 1: run his show because it's his show. But my last thing,
- 29:24Speaker 1: which I didn't buy either, my mum bought. Now. This
- 29:28Speaker 1: is the woman who bought me a concrete gorilla once
- 29:30Speaker 1: right to put in my garden, So she's pretty bad
- 29:34Speaker 1: at choosing shit. By the way, that concrete gorilla that
- 29:37Speaker 1: had a flat bottom weighed about fucking ten k's so
- 29:41Speaker 1: it sat in the bamboo for a while. Then I
- 29:42Speaker 1: think I gave it away. But Mary bought me a backscratcher,
- 29:46Speaker 1: which is essentially like you know the area on your
- 29:50Speaker 1: car that you extend the old fashion ones. So it's
- 29:53Speaker 1: got a scratchy like little handle on one end and
- 29:57Speaker 1: it goes from about six inches to about two feet
- 30:00Speaker 1: or whatever that is one hundred and fifty mil to
- 30:03Speaker 1: like six hundred milk. Because I'm a bit of a
- 30:06Speaker 1: Neanderthal and I cannot scratch in between my shoulder blades.
- 30:10Speaker 1: It's the perfect gift. It's the gift that keeps on.
- 30:13Speaker 1: I use that motherfucker every day because it's either that
- 30:17Speaker 1: or rub up against a tree and I don't have
- 30:19Speaker 1: any trees inside.
- 30:21Speaker 4: Hey, have you ever used an orgasmotron? Studdn silence el,
- 30:29Speaker 4: I'm usually the one. No, I know what is an orgasmotron.
- 30:34Speaker 4: It's if you can imagine like these wires that basically
- 30:39Speaker 4: sit on a handle and you put it over your
- 30:41Speaker 4: head and move it up and down and it just
- 30:44Speaker 4: rubs and massages your head.
- 30:46Speaker 2: Have you seen it?
- 30:47Speaker 4: I'm sure you've seen them that There's got lots of
- 30:49Speaker 4: little filaments on them and they form like a claw
- 30:52Speaker 4: and you just shit down over your head and you
- 30:54Speaker 4: move it up and down and it runs through the
- 30:56Speaker 4: people who've got hair, and it runs through it just
- 30:59Speaker 4: massages your head. It was a I think that it
- 31:01Speaker 4: was called the brand was called a gaze Matron.
- 31:03Speaker 2: I thought.
- 31:04Speaker 4: I'm trying to remember where I bought it from. And
- 31:06Speaker 4: it's an amazing head massage.
- 31:08Speaker 1: It is a studio album by It's an album by
- 31:11Speaker 1: Motorhead or gas Matron.
- 31:13Speaker 2: Tried typing all Gazmetron head massage or.
- 31:16Speaker 1: Gas Matron head. This is great fucking listening for our listeners.
- 31:22Speaker 1: This is sorry everyone. Okay, yeah, there's a mish Okay,
- 31:29Speaker 1: there's like five dollar ones twenty dollars ones. All there's
- 31:33Speaker 1: battery operated ones. Okay, Oh there are ones with lights
- 31:38Speaker 1: on them too. Okay, now, all right, the mind boggers.
- 31:42Speaker 1: I love a good massage. I'm a massage slut, so
- 31:44Speaker 1: I might have to invest in one of those.
- 31:47Speaker 2: Especially, get the cheap one, the five, all the one.
- 31:48Speaker 2: You'll be right whatever, I'll just all right. I wonder
- 31:53Speaker 2: if they have sizes just to fit your head. Just think,
- 31:57Speaker 2: what are you saying?
- 31:58Speaker 1: I reckon your head's got my mister potato head in
- 32:03Speaker 1: size fits all?
- 32:08Speaker 7: All right, move on, I think I look, while we're
- 32:15Speaker 7: talking about money and all that sort of stuff, scamming,
- 32:17Speaker 7: I picked up on a scam recently where people are
- 32:21Speaker 7: putting fake listings on like your Airbnb type platforms, and
- 32:26Speaker 7: it kind of stands to.
- 32:28Speaker 4: Reason it's probably not a bad idea to contact people
- 32:31Speaker 4: directly once you've made a booking, because what scammers are
- 32:34Speaker 4: doing is they're taking all the images and just reposting
- 32:37Speaker 4: the property online and getting people to pay their deposit
- 32:41Speaker 4: and then just taking the money because it's so yeah.
- 32:45Speaker 1: It's is just getting a slipperer and slipperier slope, isn't that, mate?
- 32:50Speaker 4: Yeah, So just It's one of those be wary when
- 32:53Speaker 4: you're booking. Always good to talk to people. I tend
- 32:55Speaker 4: to like to contact people directly when you know I'm
- 32:58Speaker 4: booking stuff. But I'm just thinking that it's not over
- 33:00Speaker 4: the phone. You do use the messaging system in the app,
- 33:03Speaker 4: don't you.
- 33:04Speaker 1: So I got off to do a speaking gig in
- 33:06Speaker 1: South Africa, like all expenses paid, blah blah blah, we'll
- 33:10Speaker 1: fly and I'm like cool, and they're like, I said, yeah, okay,
- 33:14Speaker 1: I'm interested. Let's do a zoom call. Nah nothing, Yeah,
- 33:20Speaker 1: I'm sure. So like, let's set up a zoom call
- 33:23Speaker 1: so we can chat and crickets. Now, tell me about
- 33:29Speaker 1: that was only the week before last. Tell me about
- 33:32Speaker 1: which reminds me of my childhood. Gen Z being obsessed
- 33:36Speaker 1: with buying cassette tapes.
- 33:38Speaker 2: Oh, this is so funny because of course gen z
- 33:42Speaker 2: is don't know how to use a rotary phone, they
- 33:44Speaker 2: don't know how to use vinyl, they don't know how
- 33:46Speaker 2: to use cassette players.
- 33:49Speaker 4: But they're getting all retro interested and so the funny
- 33:53Speaker 4: story the article I read was this young girl put
- 33:57Speaker 4: on a cassette and then wanted to skip through to
- 34:00Speaker 4: a track and thought, how do I get to the
- 34:02Speaker 4: next track because it's all on the loop.
- 34:06Speaker 2: So I just chuckle to myself.
- 34:08Speaker 4: So it's we take a lot of the stuff for
- 34:10Speaker 4: granted to those of us who you know, lived life
- 34:12Speaker 4: of cassette players and doing mixtapes and all that sort
- 34:14Speaker 4: of stuff, But nowadays used to just send someone a
- 34:16Speaker 4: Spotify playlist, but to go from you know, song one
- 34:20Speaker 4: on the album to the last song on the album,
- 34:23Speaker 4: you had to fast forward. And it's just not computing
- 34:27Speaker 4: for young people who are used to just skipping and
- 34:29Speaker 4: pushing and jumping from one thing to another, and it
- 34:32Speaker 4: just tickle them a fancy that you know, retros come back.
- 34:36Speaker 4: If you can use it, you've got to go back
- 34:38Speaker 4: to Grandpa to ask how to use it.
- 34:41Speaker 1: Isn't it funny? How like for maybe one hundred years
- 34:44Speaker 1: we had vinyl, and then it just rocketed from that
- 34:48Speaker 1: to you know, cassettes to blue was it blue whatever?
- 34:53Speaker 1: Then we had the CDs. That's right, Hey, I'm watching
- 34:59Speaker 1: this show speaking of technology, which David Gillespie recommended. Just
- 35:06Speaker 1: from the point of view of looking at it's basically
- 35:10Speaker 1: like stepping into a time capsule. So there's a show
- 35:13Speaker 1: called Friday Night Lights and it starts. The first season
- 35:18Speaker 1: is two thousand and six, and it's have set in
- 35:20Speaker 1: this little town with this high high school football team,
- 35:22Speaker 1: which is a big deal, and all the myriad of
- 35:25Speaker 1: social constructs around that and all the fucking families and
- 35:28Speaker 1: relationships and coaching. But it's two thousand, so it's not
- 35:33Speaker 1: set in two thousand and six. It's actually filmed in
- 35:36Speaker 1: two thousand and six, so season one is eighteen years old, right,
- 35:41Speaker 1: So they're all using these flip phones and they've got iPods,
- 35:46Speaker 1: and they think they're fucking living in the future with
- 35:49Speaker 1: their iPod and their flip phone. So there's no I think,
- 35:55Speaker 1: was it two thousand and eight Patrick the first iPhone?
- 35:57Speaker 2: Yep?
- 35:58Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think in season two or three, or
- 36:03Speaker 1: as I Nellie said, Susan two or three where one
- 36:09Speaker 1: of the kids gets an iPhone. But it's just funny
- 36:11Speaker 1: watching stuff happen where there's all this stuff going on
- 36:17Speaker 1: and nobody's got a phone out filming it, Whereas if
- 36:20Speaker 1: it was teenagers now and something was happening, everything would
- 36:24Speaker 1: be would be being filmed on their smartphone.
- 36:27Speaker 4: We'll talking about being filmed on smartphones and privacy. I
- 36:33Speaker 4: didn't realize this because they've only started introducing seat belt
- 36:37Speaker 4: cameras and phone cameras so that you can detect if
- 36:41Speaker 4: a person who's driving a car and hasn't got a
- 36:44Speaker 4: seat belt on and is using a phone. But to
- 36:47Speaker 4: do that, what they do is they mount the cameras
- 36:49Speaker 4: really high and they look down into the car. Well,
- 36:52Speaker 4: there are privacy concerns because you know people go for
- 36:55Speaker 4: a bit of a scratch or other thing and so.
- 37:00Speaker 1: Thing, what's the other thing? I know, Sorry, I'm just
- 37:05Speaker 1: looking for clarity for the listeners. Gives a story.
- 37:11Speaker 4: Look, our listeners have active imaginations.
- 37:14Speaker 2: They can work it out for themselves.
- 37:17Speaker 4: So the use of these mobile detection and seat belt
- 37:21Speaker 4: cameras and particularly they start off in Queensland, but they've
- 37:24Speaker 4: raised in the Banana state, I think four hundred and
- 37:28Speaker 4: nineteen million dollars in revenue since they were introduced.
- 37:32Speaker 2: So it's a fair bit of money that's being churned out.
- 37:35Speaker 4: But our privacy commissions there are saying, well, you know,
- 37:39Speaker 4: we know it's illegal, but this concerns because when they
- 37:44Speaker 4: take the photos detects whether or not it thinks that
- 37:48Speaker 4: they're wearing a seat belt or they're using a phone,
- 37:50Speaker 4: but then a human person, an operator has to then
- 37:53Speaker 4: grab that photo and verify whether there was an infringement.
- 37:59Speaker 4: The question is it's believed that some people might be
- 38:02Speaker 4: shuffling those photos aside.
- 38:04Speaker 2: They're not just looking and then throwing away.
- 38:06Speaker 4: They're kind of holding onto the photos and they have
- 38:08Speaker 4: their little black box of oh, there's some funny photos
- 38:11Speaker 4: we might send out to our friends, that sort of thing.
- 38:13Speaker 4: So that's the concern is there's no legislation in place
- 38:17Speaker 4: to protect the privacy of people. If they're using humans
- 38:20Speaker 4: for oversight to make sure that the find is justified,
- 38:25Speaker 4: then there potentially could be privacy concerns because people could
- 38:28Speaker 4: be doing stuff in the car that is not directly
- 38:31Speaker 4: related to using a phone or a seat belt.
- 38:33Speaker 1: No, well, I can't think of anything but thanks. But
- 38:36Speaker 1: it reminds me of the old days, Patrick Jones, when
- 38:40Speaker 1: you and I were kids and Tiff was just a
- 38:41Speaker 1: twinkle of a mum's eye, where we would take a
- 38:44Speaker 1: role of film to be developed, and then the people
- 38:48Speaker 1: at the developing places would look at our fucking photos.
- 38:51Speaker 1: I wonder how many copies of some photos got fucking
- 38:56Speaker 1: surreptitiously made and then just put in the old blokes pocket.
- 39:02Speaker 4: And I tell you that one of the best photos
- 39:04Speaker 4: of me as a kid that I loved the most
- 39:07Speaker 4: because of the thought behind it is there was when
- 39:10Speaker 4: Mum passed away, I grabbed all of our family photos
- 39:14Speaker 4: that were all in a box, you know, it's like
- 39:16Speaker 4: the albums with their stick on the place over the
- 39:19Speaker 4: top of them, and I.
- 39:20Speaker 2: Had them all scanned.
- 39:21Speaker 4: I had one of my staff and a couple of
- 39:23Speaker 4: people that, you know, a couple of guys that were
- 39:25Speaker 4: working after school, and I said, right, we're going to
- 39:27Speaker 4: scan every single photo high resolution share it with the family.
- 39:30Speaker 4: And then I found this photo and it was me
- 39:33Speaker 4: just standing at a chemist with like rows of films
- 39:36Speaker 4: behind me, and it's like, what a weird photo of
- 39:39Speaker 4: me just standing there with a green shirt, just you know,
- 39:42Speaker 4: instant kind of at the shot. And then it occurred
- 39:45Speaker 4: to me, you know what it was Mum's gone to
- 39:47Speaker 4: take the camera in to take the photos and realized
- 39:50Speaker 4: there was one more exposure left on the camera. So
- 39:53Speaker 4: she's just got turned around and said, right, geez, and
- 39:56Speaker 4: that was it. So this random photograph that she must
- 40:00Speaker 4: have taken when she was getting the film developed when
- 40:03Speaker 4: she realized there was one photo left and then.
- 40:05Speaker 2: There's me's danting at the chemeras looking like an idiot.
- 40:08Speaker 1: How old are you in that photo?
- 40:10Speaker 2: Maybe part of me? Maybe eleven?
- 40:14Speaker 1: I think I think you should do I think that
- 40:17Speaker 1: the story around that photo is worth doing something with
- 40:21Speaker 1: that photo because that is a really especially because your
- 40:24Speaker 1: mum's not here anymore and there's never going to be
- 40:26Speaker 1: a version of that again. That's such a good story.
- 40:30Speaker 1: I would like to say that do you still have
- 40:34Speaker 1: that photo?
- 40:35Speaker 4: I will grab it for you and I'll send it
- 40:37Speaker 4: to you because it's it's actually a super cute photo,
- 40:39Speaker 4: but it's you know, the in situus situation, and it
- 40:42Speaker 4: really and because mum had already passed away, and that
- 40:45Speaker 4: was the conclusion that I'd come to, it just made
- 40:48Speaker 4: perfect sense that it was the twenty four exposure, twenty
- 40:51Speaker 4: three shots have been taken and the person said, oh,
- 40:53Speaker 4: you've got one more shot left on the camera, so
- 40:55Speaker 4: she's just turned around and taken a shot.
- 40:57Speaker 2: It's cute, isn't it.
- 40:59Speaker 1: I think you should put that in the typ Facebook group.
- 41:02Speaker 1: Can you do that?
- 41:03Speaker 4: I will, I'll find it for you, I'll and I'll
- 41:05Speaker 4: send it off to post or I'll post it.
- 41:07Speaker 2: I'll give it the Tiff and Chicken post it for me.
- 41:09Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be great. All right?
- 41:12Speaker 2: Moving along, my favorite band.
- 41:15Speaker 4: One of my favorite bands is a band out of
- 41:18Speaker 4: Las Vegas called Imagine Dragons, and you probably if you
- 41:21Speaker 4: don't know them, you would have heard of their songs.
- 41:23Speaker 4: They've got millions of songs that have been in movies
- 41:26Speaker 4: and the like. But they're going to become the very
- 41:29Speaker 4: first band in history to have one of their songs
- 41:33Speaker 4: played from the Moon. Now they're not going to the
- 41:36Speaker 4: moon and doing a live concert tour or anything, but yeah,
- 41:40Speaker 4: I just thought i'd clarify.
- 41:41Speaker 1: That I'm just not good because I was thinking of
- 41:44Speaker 1: might get a.
- 41:48Speaker 2: So what they're going to do.
- 41:49Speaker 4: It's part of the Lone Star Freedom Mission and they're
- 41:53Speaker 4: going to be flying with to the Lunar Pole and
- 41:57Speaker 4: then they're going to broadcast one of their songs. And
- 41:59Speaker 4: the reason they they picked this particular song, it's called
- 42:02Speaker 4: Children of the Sky.
- 42:03Speaker 2: It's a really great song if you get a chance
- 42:05Speaker 2: to listen.
- 42:06Speaker 4: It was a song that was composed specifically for a
- 42:08Speaker 4: game that was a sci fi kind of space adventure game.
- 42:14Speaker 2: So it was an amazing, really really great game. Great
- 42:17Speaker 2: great game to play because it was one of those what.
- 42:19Speaker 4: They call an open world game where you could travel
- 42:22Speaker 4: around and you fly from planet to planet. And the
- 42:25Speaker 4: video clip that went with it is so inspirationally beautiful
- 42:29Speaker 4: and it's really lovely. It shows a young kid as
- 42:32Speaker 4: they grow up and then they go into space. It's
- 42:35Speaker 4: really great. So I think it starts off with the
- 42:36Speaker 4: kid looking up at a rocket being launched and then
- 42:39Speaker 4: eventually he becomes an astronaut, and that's the gist of
- 42:42Speaker 4: the video clip with this great soundtrack behind it. But
- 42:46Speaker 4: the people who are behind the mission are saying that
- 42:49Speaker 4: they want to inspire the next generation of kids to
- 42:52Speaker 4: be excited about the future of space and technology, and
- 42:55Speaker 4: that's why they chose Children of the Sky. And so
- 42:58Speaker 4: they've never performed the song live, and they're going to
- 43:02Speaker 4: on October twenty seven, they're going to perform the song
- 43:04Speaker 4: for the very first time live. They're not included in
- 43:07Speaker 4: their recent tour for some reason. And now that they've
- 43:10Speaker 4: announced that they're going to be playing it from the
- 43:12Speaker 4: Moon that now they're going to do the song live
- 43:15Speaker 4: is at this upcoming concert in Los Angeles, and I
- 43:18Speaker 4: just it was kind of cool.
- 43:19Speaker 2: I like that kind of nerdy stuff.
- 43:21Speaker 4: It's interesting and fun and just happened to be one
- 43:23Speaker 4: of my favorite songs as well from one.
- 43:25Speaker 1: Of your favorite Why am I not surprised that you
- 43:28Speaker 1: love a band called Imagine Dragons. I'm not even sure
- 43:34Speaker 1: that you love the music. I think you just love
- 43:36Speaker 1: the name either.
- 43:38Speaker 2: The music's pretty good. I've been to two of their concerts.
- 43:40Speaker 4: I whenever they tour in Australia, I always make a
- 43:43Speaker 4: point to go and watch them play. In the first
- 43:45Speaker 4: concert I went to, I was in the mosh pit
- 43:47Speaker 4: and it was so loud.
- 43:50Speaker 2: My clothes were vibrating. You know. My T shirt was
- 43:52Speaker 2: just moving forward and backward.
- 43:56Speaker 1: Now taking a left turn. We revisit electric Is probably
- 44:00Speaker 1: every third or fourth episode. But China claims the world's
- 44:05Speaker 1: fastest charging av and of course, one of the problems
- 44:09Speaker 1: complaints I guess that people have is just the impracticality
- 44:13Speaker 1: of using electricity as a funel source, because you know,
- 44:18Speaker 1: it takes so long to fill your car so to speak.
- 44:22Speaker 4: Yeah, a company called Zeka. They claim that the new
- 44:26Speaker 4: electric EV batteries charged faster than all of the other rivals,
- 44:30Speaker 4: the byds and the Tesla's. They say they can go
- 44:33Speaker 4: from ten to eighty percent capacity in ten and a
- 44:36Speaker 4: half minutes.
- 44:37Speaker 2: That's a game changer for a lot of people.
- 44:39Speaker 4: Isn't it to be able to give yourself a range
- 44:42Speaker 4: of an extra three or four hundred kilometers in just
- 44:44Speaker 4: ten minutes. That's pretty massive. That to me, particularly people
- 44:48Speaker 4: in Australia is a game changer. And you pointed out
- 44:50Speaker 4: I think in a couple of shows ago that Chinese
- 44:53Speaker 4: cars are really flooding the market at the moment, and
- 44:55Speaker 4: if you can get a decent Chinese electric car with
- 44:59Speaker 4: a range like that that can charge up so quickly,
- 45:02Speaker 4: that would be phenomenal.
- 45:04Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean it's just I think the
- 45:09Speaker 1: unknown around or there's a couple, but the Chinese cars
- 45:15Speaker 1: are becoming better and better. Like I don't own one,
- 45:18Speaker 1: but I wentn't looked at when I was looking for
- 45:21Speaker 1: cars a car, I went and looked at quite a few,
- 45:23Speaker 1: and I've got to say, the build quality and everything
- 45:28Speaker 1: is amazing. Like people go, oh, Chinese, everyone it says
- 45:32Speaker 1: Chinese crap. Most of the people that I've spoken to
- 45:35Speaker 1: have never driven one or owned one. And while historically
- 45:40Speaker 1: they have had some lemons, as did Korea, when they
- 45:44Speaker 1: started pushing out Kia and Hayundai, as did Japan, when
- 45:48Speaker 1: they started pushing out Toyota and Masada, as did everyone,
- 45:51Speaker 1: so did America. So did you know Italy with the
- 45:54Speaker 1: Alpha Romeo. There's a lot of shit cars, but overall
- 45:58Speaker 1: everything is becoming better and better, and there's not many.
- 46:03Speaker 1: There's not many cars these days that are bad because
- 46:05Speaker 1: if you're producing bad stuff in a time when vehicles
- 46:10Speaker 1: have never been more competitive, you're not going to last.
- 46:13Speaker 1: So but an interesting thing around this, and I'll shut
- 46:16Speaker 1: up after this, is that in Canada and I think
- 46:22Speaker 1: the US definitely, in Canada, there's one hundred percent tariff,
- 46:27Speaker 1: so if it comes in or tax, so if it's
- 46:31Speaker 1: coming in and it's thirty thousand dollars car, it's now
- 46:34Speaker 1: sixty thousand dollars. So this is one of the things
- 46:38Speaker 1: I hope the Australian government doesn't because we don't have
- 46:42Speaker 1: an Australian manufacturer anymore. But what it means is for
- 46:46Speaker 1: the end, I'm not particularly partial to any particular nation
- 46:49Speaker 1: in terms of car building, but what it means is now,
- 46:55Speaker 1: like just from me on Nepean Highway is an MGD,
- 47:00Speaker 1: so in Brighton so they're selling brand new, pretty fucking
- 47:05Speaker 1: good cars for under thirty grand with a ten year warranty. Now,
- 47:10Speaker 1: if you're someone who really struggles financially to be able
- 47:13Speaker 1: to buy a new car, you lease it over five years.
- 47:16Speaker 1: It might cost you one hundred bucks or one hundred
- 47:19Speaker 1: and twenty bucks a week maybe, But you've got a
- 47:22Speaker 1: brand new car with ten years warranty. I mean for
- 47:26Speaker 1: some people that that is speaking of game changing. You know,
- 47:29Speaker 1: that's a game changer.
- 47:30Speaker 2: I just got to cut out all of my subscriptions
- 47:32Speaker 2: and I could afford.
- 47:33Speaker 1: It exactly exactly. You've got a good car. All right,
- 47:39Speaker 1: Let's do two more stories and wind up over one.
- 47:42Speaker 1: You tell us where you want to go.
- 47:43Speaker 2: Did we talk about the space balloon the last time
- 47:46Speaker 2: we caught up? I don't know we did. Did we?
- 47:47Speaker 1: I don't think we did. We may have touched on something, yeah,
- 47:50Speaker 1: but let's look, I'm the host and I can't remember,
- 47:53Speaker 1: so I can, but then I'm sixty So how.
- 47:56Speaker 4: This is super exciting because they're talking about launching flights
- 48:02Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six. It's the Halo Space is the
- 48:05Speaker 4: name of the company, and effectively it's a high tech
- 48:08Speaker 4: hot air balloon ish type thing that will take you
- 48:13Speaker 4: all the way to the stratosphere, so right on the
- 48:18Speaker 4: boundary of space. So you get balloon, you strap yourself in,
- 48:21Speaker 4: it goes up up. They're going to leave in Saudi
- 48:25Speaker 4: Arabia in a space balloon. And look, it's only you know,
- 48:29Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty thousand euro, which is about two
- 48:33Speaker 4: hundred and fifty thousand Australian dollars. It'll go up about
- 48:36Speaker 4: thirty five kilometers. But to me, I mean, you you're
- 48:39Speaker 4: gonna get a bloody good view of the Earth, aren't
- 48:41Speaker 4: you at that height?
- 48:43Speaker 1: And Google at Google Google three, Like, I've got a
- 48:49Speaker 1: great view of the Earth on my phone. It's my
- 48:51Speaker 1: bloody screensaver. One hundred what is it, two hundred and
- 48:55Speaker 1: fifty grand?
- 48:56Speaker 4: Nah, about two hundred and fifty I think's what about
- 48:58Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty euro?
- 49:00Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, and this is this is
- 49:02Speaker 1: like we're talking about perception and value and context. Like
- 49:05Speaker 1: for some people that would be the highlight of their life, right,
- 49:09Speaker 1: that would be some people would pretty much give up
- 49:12Speaker 1: everything to have that experience, to go to in inverted
- 49:14Speaker 1: commas space in the stratosphere. Yeah, but not utif with
- 49:22Speaker 1: that interest you.
- 49:23Speaker 3: Yeah, nope, not a bit.
- 49:25Speaker 1: No, Patrick, If I went Patrick, you could be on board.
- 49:28Speaker 1: It's going to cost you thirty grand.
- 49:30Speaker 4: On thirty grand, yeah, I'll do it, really, yeah, thirty grand.
- 49:34Speaker 4: I wouldn't even question it. I mean one hundred and well,
- 49:37Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty thousand. Of course it's never going
- 49:39Speaker 4: to happen. But if it was thirty k, I'd sign
- 49:41Speaker 4: up tomorrow.
- 49:42Speaker 1: Well, space travelers, just around the corner and buy around
- 49:47Speaker 1: the corner, I mean twenty to thirty years.
- 49:49Speaker 4: But you know, maybe I think my because I think
- 49:53Speaker 4: we've spoken about this.
- 49:54Speaker 2: I have two bucket lists.
- 49:56Speaker 4: I have the achievable bucket list and the bucket list
- 49:59Speaker 4: that's never going to happen. And the bucket list's never
- 50:01Speaker 4: going to happen is walking on the moon, Okay, so
- 50:04Speaker 4: that's not going to happen and listening to a major
- 50:05Speaker 4: dragon's evidently, and the other one is my general you know,
- 50:09Speaker 4: I I'd like to go to Iceland and I'd like
- 50:12Speaker 4: to go to Paris, you know, those sorts of things
- 50:15Speaker 4: that are on that that you know, the standard bucket
- 50:17Speaker 4: list that you can achieve. So yeah, anyway, apparently apparently Reikiavic,
- 50:22Speaker 4: which is the capital of Iceland, is fucking amazing.
- 50:24Speaker 1: One of my friends, so Vinn, my mate, his kid Laura,
- 50:30Speaker 1: shout out. She went there kind of and fucking fell
- 50:35Speaker 1: in love with it. Like a lot of people who
- 50:37Speaker 1: go to Iceland, it's quite a special place, I think,
- 50:41Speaker 1: and fuck all, I think, tif can you just have
- 50:44Speaker 1: a look at the population of Iceland. I feel like
- 50:45Speaker 1: it's five hundred thousand or less, like it's not many
- 50:49Speaker 1: people in a very vast expanse.
- 50:52Speaker 4: When I was in primary school, I think it might
- 50:54Speaker 4: have been grade five, I saw a magazine that had
- 50:56Speaker 4: a photograph of the Aurora borealis and that's what sparked
- 51:00Speaker 4: my interest, because of course going to Iceland is one
- 51:02Speaker 4: of those locations where you can see it.
- 51:04Speaker 2: You get just get the number tien.
- 51:06Speaker 3: What says three hundred and eighty one thousand, but then
- 51:09Speaker 3: it says that's twenty twenty.
- 51:10Speaker 1: Two yeah less, yeah, yeah, and Rakie pick is like
- 51:17Speaker 1: most of that or half of that or something?
- 51:20Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 51:20Speaker 1: What are they the northern lights or something?
- 51:23Speaker 2: There is that in all then lights? Yeah? Or some
- 51:25Speaker 2: ounce and almos fire.
- 51:27Speaker 4: I took a trip to the Far Northern Territories of
- 51:30Speaker 4: Canada because you can see them up there as well.
- 51:33Speaker 2: And my family, my sister in law and my brother
- 51:35Speaker 2: live in Canada.
- 51:36Speaker 4: And I went up as far as I could go,
- 51:39Speaker 4: so it was two hundred k's out of the Arctic Circle.
- 51:42Speaker 4: And I was there for four days and it was overcards.
- 51:46Speaker 4: For four days, I couldn't see Jack. And then the
- 51:51Speaker 4: next week I left to go home and they had
- 51:53Speaker 4: the best aurora display. It was all the way down
- 51:55Speaker 4: to the Prairies and Alberta and Gallghery.
- 51:58Speaker 2: So I missed it.
- 51:59Speaker 4: So I mean, I did take some photos and I
- 52:01Speaker 4: think I sent them to you when we had the
- 52:03Speaker 4: Aurora Australis recently here. But I think I'd love to
- 52:07Speaker 4: go to somewhere, you know, like Iceland and check it out.
- 52:11Speaker 2: That would be pretty cool, wuldn't it.
- 52:13Speaker 4: And you know what else would be pretty cool is
- 52:15Speaker 4: that if you got trapped out in the middle of
- 52:17Speaker 4: nowhere and you needed to call for help, Elon Musk
- 52:21Speaker 4: might come to the rescue.
- 52:24Speaker 1: Why go on?
- 52:25Speaker 2: Okay, So he's now This week there were a.
- 52:29Speaker 4: Couple of articles saying that he's going to offer free starlink.
- 52:33Speaker 4: So Starlink is his satellite based Internet service. He's going
- 52:37Speaker 4: to offer free stylink for people stranded in the wilderness.
- 52:40Speaker 4: Now that that actually could be useful for me because
- 52:43Speaker 4: there are black spots all the way through where I live.
- 52:47Speaker 4: My phone drops out constantly, and of course three G
- 52:50Speaker 4: is being dropped out in Australia really really soon. Telstranoptus
- 52:54Speaker 4: are dropping three G, which means a lot of people
- 52:55Speaker 4: living in rural areas could suddenly find themselves without phone coverage.
- 53:03Speaker 1: You know what's funny is as you were talking about
- 53:05Speaker 1: black spots and signal dropping out, you dropped out momentarily,
- 53:11Speaker 1: Patrick James, Patrick, James Bonello, Tiffany and Cook. It's always fabulous, Patrick.
- 53:16Speaker 1: How can people connect with you? Stay at your joint,
- 53:21Speaker 1: come and help you collect the insulation from the adjoining
- 53:25Speaker 1: adjacent paddocks and help you rebuild. How can people get
- 53:29Speaker 1: involved on Planet?
- 53:31Speaker 2: You Planet?
- 53:32Speaker 4: You can go to websites noow dot com dot Au,
- 53:35Speaker 4: or you can go to Tyechi at home dot com
- 53:38Speaker 4: dot Au and do tai chi with me. I've got
- 53:40Speaker 4: videos there. You can meet Fritz the Tychie dog. There's
- 53:44Speaker 4: lots of ways to connect.
- 53:46Speaker 1: What's the ETA on the new studio bro.
- 53:49Speaker 2: So close I reckon two weeks, have ordered the shower screen.
- 53:53Speaker 4: The toilet can't go in until the tiling's done, and
- 53:56Speaker 4: then the clouding gets put on. But the sparkys have
- 53:58Speaker 4: been in. All the lights are in. Lads a bit,
- 54:01Speaker 4: but no one's own. No, it's really really close. I'm
- 54:03Speaker 4: super excited. So you guys going to have to come
- 54:05Speaker 4: down and do some Tai chee with me.
- 54:07Speaker 1: Speaking of the toilet in the middle of the night,
- 54:09Speaker 1: when you have a wee, do you just stand there
- 54:10Speaker 1: in the dark and hope it goes in? Or do
- 54:12Speaker 1: you sit down?
- 54:13Speaker 4: I never get up in the at night to go
- 54:15Speaker 4: to the toilet. My bladder is so perfectly trained.
- 54:18Speaker 2: I never have.
- 54:19Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's disappointed.
- 54:21Speaker 2: I don't drink after six o'clock, so I don't have
- 54:23Speaker 2: a full bladder.
- 54:25Speaker 1: I have fucking coffee in bed, So don't do it.
- 54:29Speaker 1: I do everyone.
- 54:30Speaker 2: That's the way you get to the toilet, you do.
- 54:33Speaker 1: For yeah, probably only get up once.
- 54:36Speaker 2: But yeah, it's about lights on, all lights off.
- 54:40Speaker 1: I have a bright light and a low light in
- 54:42Speaker 1: the bathroom. I put on the bright light and I
- 54:45Speaker 1: stand like a fuck an hour for male and get
- 54:47Speaker 1: half of it on my feet. And half of it
- 54:49Speaker 1: in the toilet.
- 54:51Speaker 4: You know that's funny you say that because I have
- 54:53Speaker 4: a lance and a little lantern that I carry down stick.
- 54:57Speaker 1: Are you one of the seven Dwarfs? What do you
- 54:59Speaker 1: mean you have a lantern? Are you a Disney character?
- 55:06Speaker 1: The fucking no one has a lantern. It's not eighteen
- 55:09Speaker 1: twenty four. You're not in Ballarats, motherfucker lantern. Fuck, I've
- 55:17Speaker 1: got a lantern, fucking said no one ever. No one's
- 55:21Speaker 1: ever said to me I've got a lantern. It took
- 55:24Speaker 1: sixty years. Today's the day I couldn't be more disappointed
- 55:28Speaker 1: in you.
- 55:29Speaker 6: Clarify, please, hell, yes, yes, okay, ruddy sleepy doc.
- 55:39Speaker 2: It's really cool, right.
- 55:41Speaker 4: The lantern has LEDs in it that glow, and so
- 55:46Speaker 4: you hold it by a handle. It's a traditional type
- 55:49Speaker 4: of lantern. If you turn it up the other way,
- 55:51Speaker 4: it goes from the bright white to a warm yellow,
- 55:55Speaker 4: and then it's got a little slider, electronic slider at
- 55:57Speaker 4: the top, so you can dim it down or make
- 55:59Speaker 4: it bright. So it's not a ye oldie lantern, it's
- 56:04Speaker 4: a it's a high tech land.
- 56:06Speaker 1: Here's a sentence that's never been said. My lantern's really cool.
- 56:11Speaker 1: By the way, there's these buttons on the wall and
- 56:14Speaker 1: you push them and the light goes on.
- 56:18Speaker 2: Turned the light.
- 56:18Speaker 4: Look, mister, I want to be like sunburnt as you
- 56:22Speaker 4: get out of bed and take a piss, like why
- 56:25Speaker 4: would you turn your lights on so bright that it
- 56:27Speaker 4: wakes you?
- 56:28Speaker 1: Told you I've got a bright and a loan light.
- 56:31Speaker 1: The I've got the weeing appropriate light, which is just
- 56:35Speaker 1: it's like mood lighting. It's been great. Thanks everyone, Thanks Patrick,
- 56:41Speaker 1: Thanks Tiff, great finish. Just we're going so good now,
- 56:45Speaker 1: that's not true. We weren't going any any good at
- 56:48Speaker 1: any stage.
- 56:49Speaker 5: E