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- 0:17Speaker 2: Wall Streets. Heavyweight banks have kicked off earning season there
- 0:20Speaker 2: and the message is pretty clear US consumer is bending,
- 0:23Speaker 2: but certainly not at this point breaking. Sam Dickey from
- 0:26Speaker 2: Fisher Funds is with me now, Hey Sam, good evening, Right,
- 0:30Speaker 2: So where are we at this reporting season? Who's reported
- 0:34Speaker 2: so far? How the result's been looking.
- 0:37Speaker 3: Yes, we're less than ten percent of the way through.
- 0:39Speaker 3: But the big US banks always kick things off, and
- 0:43Speaker 3: they've got a pretty good bird's eye view of the
- 0:46Speaker 3: US and the global economy. And they mostly beat expectations,
- 0:51Speaker 3: which is quite interesting given how bearish sentiment was sort
- 0:55Speaker 3: of two months ago. So JP, Morgan and City Bank,
- 0:58Speaker 3: especially two giant banks, beaty expectations and that's probably no
- 1:03Speaker 3: surprise now given stock markets thro at all time highs
- 1:06Speaker 3: and bond markets have been volatile. So they're trading flows
- 1:09Speaker 3: have been humming and minting cash.
- 1:13Speaker 2: And how households spending habits going at the moment starting
- 1:17Speaker 2: to crack.
- 1:18Speaker 3: Yet, yes, that they do have a great view of
- 1:21Speaker 3: that and the answer is not yet. So JP Morgan's
- 1:24Speaker 3: Jamie Diamond said the consumer is resilient still, and City
- 1:29Speaker 3: Group CEO said the consumer is holding up nicely. Bank
- 1:32Speaker 3: of America said solid consumer spending data and no signs
- 1:37Speaker 3: of a recession.
- 1:38Speaker 2: All right, So what rests of the bank's really worried
- 1:40Speaker 2: about here? Sam?
- 1:42Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's a really good question, because everything we've
- 1:46Speaker 3: talked about so far was backwards looking for the first half,
- 1:48Speaker 3: and most sounded notes of caution for the second half.
- 1:52Speaker 3: So Wells Fargo said they expect pressure on borrowing demand
- 1:57Speaker 3: for the rest of twenty twenty five because interest rates
- 2:00Speaker 3: remain high. Jamie Diamond lamented how expensive equity markets looked
- 2:05Speaker 3: and asset prices look pretty high. And as a group,
- 2:07Speaker 3: they all talked about the risks of geopolitics, US government
- 2:11Speaker 3: debt levels and generally higher interest rates pressuring the ability
- 2:15Speaker 3: of the US government to pay the interest on that debt,
- 2:19Speaker 3: and of course, the uncertainty of tariffs and whether they
- 2:23Speaker 3: will kick in in August was talked about a lot
- 2:25Speaker 3: by the big banks.
- 2:26Speaker 2: Yeah, still a lot of it on setting around that.
- 2:27Speaker 2: What does all this mean for investors? Sam?
- 2:31Speaker 3: The US economy remains exceptionally robust and We've seen this
- 2:33Speaker 3: many times since COVID when people expected a recession as
- 2:36Speaker 3: at April for example this year post Liberation Day, and
- 2:39Speaker 3: it just remains very, very robust. But stop market sentiment
- 2:44Speaker 3: is red hot. It's been an incredible run in equity
- 2:47Speaker 3: market since April the eighth. And the only other thing
- 2:50Speaker 3: I would say is it's all about AI at the moment,
- 2:53Speaker 3: and any company with AI and the name is going up.
- 2:56Speaker 3: And it does seem like the US economy is a
- 2:58Speaker 3: little bit of a sideshow at the moment until it's not.
- 3:01Speaker 2: So.
- 3:01Speaker 3: I would just say in a note caution there given
- 3:03Speaker 3: the exceptional run that equity markets have had.
- 3:06Speaker 2: And it has been exceptional SAMD thing. Thank you for that,
- 3:08Speaker 2: Sam Dicky Fisher Funds.
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